Anyone who has a different opinion is debris now?

I think you’ve been in the echo chamber too long.

Boom! Word leaks of the conversation with the “senior Obama campaign economic advisor” (or something lik that) as it invariably does, and Team Obama goes full crisis because—gasp—his credibility has been challenged! About NAFTA, no less! With Ohio five days away! Oy.

And here’s where they make the rookie mistake that seems typical of this campaign. Rather than react carefully while they run down the ground balls and figure out what the hell happened (as the seasoned Clinton team did with the Obama Somalia photo), they issue an immediate flat denial because—gasp—Obama’s credibility has been challenged!

And then they have to retract, backtrack, obfuscate and explain away, all while looking either completely inept or deliberately misleading.

In my view neither of these conclusions (which are the only ones available) recommend the candidate for, oh, the presidency of the United States of America. Couldn’t happen to a bigger bunch of arrogant….well, choose your own noun to finish the sentence.

So good luck, Senator Clinton. And here’s my chant for the crowds tomorrow night: Keep Fighting!

Come on Cee…Who you jivin’ with that Kosmic Debris?
That link all about a CYA from Obama Koolaid manufacturers. Canada afraid of Obama? because of Rush? Canada is Canada and will always be Canada.
Oh well, at least it was funny.

We are trying to understand and discuss ideas here; not “ideology”.

As for Obama as President: ? Well…. let me just say that a bad law/bill is worse than none at all.

And I know that you are not saying this but
I am tired of the Obama supporters threats that unless everyone votes for Obama we will be responsible for the next Supreme Justice appointee and Roe vs Wade being overturn.

But the truth of the matter is that *it is Congress’s responsibility* to vet and approve or disaprove whoever the Pres. nominates.

And since it is likely that Clinton supporters wil vote Dems. for Congress and that Dems. will have a majority then it will be on Congress’ shoulders.

I have cancelled my Democracy bonds, written Howard Dean, and refuse to give a penny to the current insanity. I do not do bullying, particulary by very childish cult members who feel they are “entitled” to rule the roost.

They can also get rid of the useless eaters faster.

Now back the neocon engineered NAFTA bullshit:

That Canada’s neocon government is on the same page as Rush Limbaugh, both pushing for a Clinton win in this contest, should give one pause. It’s the “Movement”, stupid!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/3/164641/2321/755/468076

You tell me, as I’m not a Republican.

I just love partisans who think they can sideswipe, but slip on their own petard!

Pssst…I’m a moderate Traditional conservative. Been independent since day one.

Industrialists are.

Biofuels use disproportionate amounts of water, take more energy to make than they provide, and are inefficient compared to fuel cell technology.

That’s just the energy output problem, there’s many other issues involved that make bio-fuels a waste of energy to even produce it.

SCAM 101.

Under Latest News, two links now on CNN homepage going to NAFTA-gate.

Clinton hammers Obama on NAFTA

Obama camp downplays conversation with Canada

http://www.junkscience.com/ByTheJunkman/20080228.html

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The Financial Times article reported on how section 526 of the energy bill prohibits the federal government from buying oil that was produced from Canadian tar sands — a reserve that holds about two-thirds the amount of recoverable oil as compared to reserves in Saudi Arabia.

Because it takes greenhouse gas-producing energy to extract oil from the tar sands, the article focused on the fact that the law could affect billions of dollars of trade in oil, particularly since the U.S. Department of Defense is the world’s largest single buyer of light refined petroleum.
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But my views about energy independence aren’t even regarding this, as nations can use whatever current energy source they want — but to get to the next technological age we need 10x amount to do so (and we better hurry, since if China gets it before we do, say good-bye to our superpower status). Currently alternative energy resources can’t produce 10x our current level (we only have 2x of what we need — why we have the black and brown outs), and it’ll take a radical idea like a Dyson sphere to achieve it.

We don’t need a Mars colony, we need that Dyson sphere and high capacity fuel cells that can store all the energy it can produce.

Then with the technological advancement, say goodbye to currency (like the greenback and gold) as you know it — as that energy will be the new monetical unit (think of it as credit card sized battery, that has an actual money value to it).

Ack, too much to say.