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		<title>By: Michael F. Scheuer</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-155343</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael F. Scheuer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still not a sign of gratefulness for my having made your analytic brilliance immortal on acid-free paper?  Oh well, I guess your Mom never taught you any manners, and, as always, you just cannot help those who will not help themselves.  So that's all from me, best of luck in all your future politically motivated and evidence-free ranting.

Respectfully, 

M.F. Scheuer
Falls Church, VA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still not a sign of gratefulness for my having made your analytic brilliance immortal on acid-free paper?  Oh well, I guess your Mom never taught you any manners, and, as always, you just cannot help those who will not help themselves.  So that&#8217;s all from me, best of luck in all your future politically motivated and evidence-free ranting.</p>
<p>Respectfully, </p>
<p>M.F. Scheuer<br />
Falls Church, VA</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-155318</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The victors determine what was lawful, what was acceptable.  Imagine for a moment that Germany had not lost WW2.  That the war crimes trials after the war would have featured a bunch of loser Russian Generals and "Bomber" Harris the architect of the Dresden fire bombing and LeMay the architect of the Tokyo fire bombing.  All of them would have hung.  All of them "were just following orders from their lawful superiors."  Had the Axis won that war:  Churchill, Rooseveldt, Stalin, Marshall, et.al. would have been on yardarms instead of on  pedestals.
It's really not that hard to understand, not a "what the hell" idea.  It is just reality.  The side that accepts the surrender is the side that gets to determine the legalities and the acceptable excuses for common behaviours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The victors determine what was lawful, what was acceptable.  Imagine for a moment that Germany had not lost WW2.  That the war crimes trials after the war would have featured a bunch of loser Russian Generals and &#8220;Bomber&#8221; Harris the architect of the Dresden fire bombing and LeMay the architect of the Tokyo fire bombing.  All of them would have hung.  All of them &#8220;were just following orders from their lawful superiors.&#8221;  Had the Axis won that war:  Churchill, Rooseveldt, Stalin, Marshall, et.al. would have been on yardarms instead of on  pedestals.<br />
It&#8217;s really not that hard to understand, not a &#8220;what the hell&#8221; idea.  It is just reality.  The side that accepts the surrender is the side that gets to determine the legalities and the acceptable excuses for common behaviours.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-155167</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;2) What were you reading during your time at the library? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

What is wrong with the library, or female analysts, btw?


Scheuer problems seem to be his own.

I was thinking it wasn't necessarily a greater awareness of Arabic culture, it's a lack of sensitivity, period.

Those people fuck up no matter where you put them, they just can't read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>2) What were you reading during your time at the library? </p></blockquote>
<p>What is wrong with the library, or female analysts, btw?</p>
<p>Scheuer problems seem to be his own.</p>
<p>I was thinking it wasn&#8217;t necessarily a greater awareness of Arabic culture, it&#8217;s a lack of sensitivity, period.</p>
<p>Those people fuck up no matter where you put them, they just can&#8217;t read.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-155160</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr.Scheuer: 

&lt;blockquote&gt; What a way to treat me after I took pains to prominently display your brilliant analytic talents on page 55 of my new book.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

this is &lt;strong&gt;not about you&lt;/strong&gt;. This is about what is best for this country. 

is how &lt;blockquote&gt;you are treated&lt;/blockquote&gt; what matters to you the most? Not the substantive policy discussion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.Scheuer: </p>
<blockquote><p> What a way to treat me after I took pains to prominently display your brilliant analytic talents on page 55 of my new book.
</p></blockquote>
<p>this is <strong>not about you</strong>. This is about what is best for this country. </p>
<p>is how<br />
<blockquote>you are treated</p></blockquote>
<p> what matters to you the most? Not the substantive policy discussion?</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-155151</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Scheuer, From a citizen; a question or two if I might, 
1) Why do you believe torture is legal, moral or even required?

2) What were you reading during your time at the library? 

3)Have you read "Blackwater" by Jeremy Scahill and if so, what is your opinion of BlackwaterUSA and do you have any business relationships with them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Scheuer, From a citizen; a question or two if I might,<br />
1) Why do you believe torture is legal, moral or even required?</p>
<p>2) What were you reading during your time at the library? </p>
<p>3)Have you read &#8220;Blackwater&#8221; by Jeremy Scahill and if so, what is your opinion of BlackwaterUSA and do you have any business relationships with them?</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-155120</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;"It is entirely conceivable that the terrorist threat is manufactured out of whole cloth by a consortium of insiders from the Bildenburger group, Isreal’s Mossad, and cells within the CIA, FBI, Secrat Soivce, and the Air Force."&lt;/em&gt;
I bitch about how bone stupid the citizens are but I just love America: All of us really are vastly more stupid than one of us.  It is endlessly entertaining, albeit lethal.


Black UN Helicopters are equipped to read the bar code stickers on the reverse side of Montana highway sign are used to guide the UN to come in and take away our guns.  Could anyone have topped that howler?

Guess again Quarterenos,

In 1962 Senator Tom Kuchel (R-Ca) stood up in the Senate and reported that 10% of his mail for months was concerned with verifying rumors that
&lt;blockquote&gt;Communist Chinese commandos were training in Mexico and will mass to attack the United States through San Diego.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;100,000 UN troops, 16,000 of which were African Negro cannibals, were secretly training in the Georga swamps under the command of a Soviet Colonel for a UN martial law takeover of the United States of America.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The hits just keep on coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;It is entirely conceivable that the terrorist threat is manufactured out of whole cloth by a consortium of insiders from the Bildenburger group, Isreal’s Mossad, and cells within the CIA, FBI, Secrat Soivce, and the Air Force.&#8221;</em><br />
I bitch about how bone stupid the citizens are but I just love America: All of us really are vastly more stupid than one of us.  It is endlessly entertaining, albeit lethal.</p>
<p>Black UN Helicopters are equipped to read the bar code stickers on the reverse side of Montana highway sign are used to guide the UN to come in and take away our guns.  Could anyone have topped that howler?</p>
<p>Guess again Quarterenos,</p>
<p>In 1962 Senator Tom Kuchel (R-Ca) stood up in the Senate and reported that 10% of his mail for months was concerned with verifying rumors that</p>
<blockquote><p>Communist Chinese commandos were training in Mexico and will mass to attack the United States through San Diego.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>100,000 UN troops, 16,000 of which were African Negro cannibals, were secretly training in the Georga swamps under the command of a Soviet Colonel for a UN martial law takeover of the United States of America.</p></blockquote>
<p>The hits just keep on coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-155107</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gripe, not grip, which brings up a whole new vision, doesn't it?

heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gripe, not grip, which brings up a whole new vision, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-155106</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is entirely conceivable that the terrorist threat is manufactured out of whole cloth by a consortium of insiders from the Bildenburger group, Isreal’s Mossad, and cells within the CIA, FBI, Secrat Soivce, and the Air Force&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, no.

Viciously oppressed people have legitimate gripes, when the Saudis, or Saddam torture, abuse, fail to educate or better their people, the people WILL FIGHT BACK.

But you know, why put more guns in their hands, guns they are incapable of using, as opposed to working out new policy? Where does this type of war lead, it doesn't seem to be working out too well for those who would encourage it.(Like the sauds and the wahabists, say, where does this leave oil, and the American economy? They don't think of that, only profit, and they answer each concern with a specious solution, enough to allow them to fool themselves into continuing. (You know, the illogical kingdom of kook. Didn't Cheney try to declare himself King, last year, sometime?).

Do men like Auchi do the things they do to make a little profit, to try to gain control, to implement their own political philosophy because they're crazy with fear,  are Americans running illegal wars in the manner of Afghanistan, or Iran Contra? Those people fucked up, big time, Oliver North is not my idea of, um, smart. I mean, he's kinda dumb, right? And if we know corruption will rot the Chinese government, what does it say about ours? 



And why nurture those avenues, through men like Auchi,  say, paths to cheap Chinese guns, the Chinese with a legitimate grip against the US (and Russia too), all part of a larger asymmetric war, China, of whom Mao's daughter thought flooding America with cheap guns would hasten the American death?

You know? 

Kinda stupid, isn't it?

All these differing factors, and they wanna torture? 

Cheney, and Bush, and Obama are part of the problem, Clinton isn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is entirely conceivable that the terrorist threat is manufactured out of whole cloth by a consortium of insiders from the Bildenburger group, Isreal’s Mossad, and cells within the CIA, FBI, Secrat Soivce, and the Air Force</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, no.</p>
<p>Viciously oppressed people have legitimate gripes, when the Saudis, or Saddam torture, abuse, fail to educate or better their people, the people WILL FIGHT BACK.</p>
<p>But you know, why put more guns in their hands, guns they are incapable of using, as opposed to working out new policy? Where does this type of war lead, it doesn&#8217;t seem to be working out too well for those who would encourage it.(Like the sauds and the wahabists, say, where does this leave oil, and the American economy? They don&#8217;t think of that, only profit, and they answer each concern with a specious solution, enough to allow them to fool themselves into continuing. (You know, the illogical kingdom of kook. Didn&#8217;t Cheney try to declare himself King, last year, sometime?).</p>
<p>Do men like Auchi do the things they do to make a little profit, to try to gain control, to implement their own political philosophy because they&#8217;re crazy with fear,  are Americans running illegal wars in the manner of Afghanistan, or Iran Contra? Those people fucked up, big time, Oliver North is not my idea of, um, smart. I mean, he&#8217;s kinda dumb, right? And if we know corruption will rot the Chinese government, what does it say about ours? </p>
<p>And why nurture those avenues, through men like Auchi,  say, paths to cheap Chinese guns, the Chinese with a legitimate grip against the US (and Russia too), all part of a larger asymmetric war, China, of whom Mao&#8217;s daughter thought flooding America with cheap guns would hasten the American death?</p>
<p>You know? </p>
<p>Kinda stupid, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>All these differing factors, and they wanna torture? </p>
<p>Cheney, and Bush, and Obama are part of the problem, Clinton isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher S. Brudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher S. Brudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is entirely conceivable that the terrorist threat is manufactured out of whole cloth by a consortium of insiders from the Bildenburger group, Isreal's Mossad, and cells within the CIA, FBI, Secrat Soivce, and the Air Force.
   Bin Laden's family has made billions from this war on terrorism. Why is it difficult to imagine that Al Queada could very well be a straw man invented by Bin Laden?  He could have recruited Saudi nationalists easily, may even have set the bomb at the Marine barracks and financed the USS Cole attack. But most of the other stuff could easily have been inside jobs.  Especially the attacks on 9/11.
   How much money are we talking about?   A trillion dollars, so far.   Three trillion if you count the money missing from the Defense Department since 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is entirely conceivable that the terrorist threat is manufactured out of whole cloth by a consortium of insiders from the Bildenburger group, Isreal&#8217;s Mossad, and cells within the CIA, FBI, Secrat Soivce, and the Air Force.<br />
   Bin Laden&#8217;s family has made billions from this war on terrorism. Why is it difficult to imagine that Al Queada could very well be a straw man invented by Bin Laden?  He could have recruited Saudi nationalists easily, may even have set the bomb at the Marine barracks and financed the USS Cole attack. But most of the other stuff could easily have been inside jobs.  Especially the attacks on 9/11.<br />
   How much money are we talking about?   A trillion dollars, so far.   Three trillion if you count the money missing from the Defense Department since 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: ybnormal</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-155085</link>
		<dc:creator>ybnormal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Scheuer believes that terrorism represents a unique, unprecedented threat and that we must be prepared to do anything to stop it, including the use of torture."

In a certain way, this is correct, but not in the way Scheuer thinks.

The real threat of terrorism is the loss of reason, common sense and fair justice; which we are still on track for losing, unless we wake up.  That's why it's called terrorism.  The object is to terrorize a large number by surprise attacks on a small number.  Those in authority positions on the receiving side are just as capable of leveraging fear as the attackers.

Meanwhile, the actual real threats are the things we already know, like car crashes and inadequate health care; the same usual suspects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Scheuer believes that terrorism represents a unique, unprecedented threat and that we must be prepared to do anything to stop it, including the use of torture.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a certain way, this is correct, but not in the way Scheuer thinks.</p>
<p>The real threat of terrorism is the loss of reason, common sense and fair justice; which we are still on track for losing, unless we wake up.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s called terrorism.  The object is to terrorize a large number by surprise attacks on a small number.  Those in authority positions on the receiving side are just as capable of leveraging fear as the attackers.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the actual real threats are the things we already know, like car crashes and inadequate health care; the same usual suspects.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, Michael, Michael.  "respectfully," you remain a clueless laughingstock.  In your insulated world stating facts constitutes abuse.  You and I both know you were never considered a top notch analyst in the Eur Division, where you started your career.  You sought refuge in the Counter Terrorism Center.  Why you were ever allowed any authority in that shop is an indictment of CIA management.  Unfortunately, you proved through your actions that you were not up to the challenge.  

It is not surprising, given that you were on the case, that Osama Bin Laden is still walking around a free man.  You have never quite caught on that it is important to be good at something as opposed to being a failure at everything.  Oops, wait.  You are talented at being inept.  Well congrats on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, Michael, Michael.  &#8220;respectfully,&#8221; you remain a clueless laughingstock.  In your insulated world stating facts constitutes abuse.  You and I both know you were never considered a top notch analyst in the Eur Division, where you started your career.  You sought refuge in the Counter Terrorism Center.  Why you were ever allowed any authority in that shop is an indictment of CIA management.  Unfortunately, you proved through your actions that you were not up to the challenge.  </p>
<p>It is not surprising, given that you were on the case, that Osama Bin Laden is still walking around a free man.  You have never quite caught on that it is important to be good at something as opposed to being a failure at everything.  Oops, wait.  You are talented at being inept.  Well congrats on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-155036</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I read Larry's post, questions answered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I read Larry&#8217;s post, questions answered.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-155026</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well done, Larry. Keep piling on the abuse!!! After all, it’s all you are good at or for.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK, if you're that Michael Scheuer, why do you support torture, and do you understand the greater ramifications of implementing torture as policy, in regard to the future stability of the United States government?

A man who supports torture complaining about abuse...


You cannot defend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well done, Larry. Keep piling on the abuse!!! After all, it’s all you are good at or for.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, if you&#8217;re that Michael Scheuer, why do you support torture, and do you understand the greater ramifications of implementing torture as policy, in regard to the future stability of the United States government?</p>
<p>A man who supports torture complaining about abuse&#8230;</p>
<p>You cannot defend?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scheuer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Scheuer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done, Larry.  Keep piling on the abuse!!!  After all, it's all you are good at or for.

Respectfully,

M.F. Scheuer
Falls Churc, VA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, Larry.  Keep piling on the abuse!!!  After all, it&#8217;s all you are good at or for.</p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>M.F. Scheuer<br />
Falls Churc, VA</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you scheuermf@aol.com.  Howver, save the "respectfully" silliness.  You don't mean it and I certainly respect nothing about you, at all.

Fortunately most people have caught on to the fact that you are a bullshit artist.  Remember, I know many of your former colleagues who tell me you were known as "Charlie Manson" out at CIA because you surrounded yourself with female analysts who had no experience on Islamic or Arabic affairs.  A smart person would have sought out such folks.  But no, not you.

I'll be happy to put my analytical record up against your pathetic work any day, any time.  You accuse John O'Neill and Richard Clarke of being responsible for 9-11.  At least I realize that Saudis, not Americans, were piloting the planes that struck us on 9-11.  

And I'm glad you are joining forces with the likes of the Wall Street Journal and Max Boot to criticize my 2001 op-ed.  As with everything in your analytical career, you cannot even summarize my points correctly.  Typical of you, though.  I understand why you conveniently ignore the absolute pathetic failure you were when you actually had the job of finding Bin Laden.  No wonder your bosses at CIA officials consigned you to the library.  They finally recognized you were way over your head and not competent for the task.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you <a href="mailto:scheuermf@aol.com">scheuermf@aol.com</a>.  Howver, save the &#8220;respectfully&#8221; silliness.  You don&#8217;t mean it and I certainly respect nothing about you, at all.</p>
<p>Fortunately most people have caught on to the fact that you are a bullshit artist.  Remember, I know many of your former colleagues who tell me you were known as &#8220;Charlie Manson&#8221; out at CIA because you surrounded yourself with female analysts who had no experience on Islamic or Arabic affairs.  A smart person would have sought out such folks.  But no, not you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be happy to put my analytical record up against your pathetic work any day, any time.  You accuse John O&#8217;Neill and Richard Clarke of being responsible for 9-11.  At least I realize that Saudis, not Americans, were piloting the planes that struck us on 9-11.  </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m glad you are joining forces with the likes of the Wall Street Journal and Max Boot to criticize my 2001 op-ed.  As with everything in your analytical career, you cannot even summarize my points correctly.  Typical of you, though.  I understand why you conveniently ignore the absolute pathetic failure you were when you actually had the job of finding Bin Laden.  No wonder your bosses at CIA officials consigned you to the library.  They finally recognized you were way over your head and not competent for the task.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were a terrorist!
http://www.hillbillyreport.com/blog/2008/03/if-i-was-a-terr.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were a terrorist!<br />
<a href="http://www.hillbillyreport.com/blog/2008/03/if-i-was-a-terr.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hillbillyreport.com/blog/2008/03/if-i-was-a-terr.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael F. Scheuer</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-154984</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael F. Scheuer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear, dear me, Larry.  What a way to treat me after I took pains to prominently display your brilliant analytic talents on page 55 of my new book.  Here I am trying to show the world what an insightful analyst you are, and you just keep abusing me.  Oh well, I will not criticise you if you keep up the abuse.  You are very wise to do so if it diverts your readers' attention from your own analytic work and record.

Respectfully,

M.F.Scheuer
Falls Church, Va.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear, dear me, Larry.  What a way to treat me after I took pains to prominently display your brilliant analytic talents on page 55 of my new book.  Here I am trying to show the world what an insightful analyst you are, and you just keep abusing me.  Oh well, I will not criticise you if you keep up the abuse.  You are very wise to do so if it diverts your readers&#8217; attention from your own analytic work and record.</p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>M.F.Scheuer<br />
Falls Church, Va.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-154976</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sure, President Bill Clinton loosely weighted hiring decisions on party affiliation&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He hired William Cohen, a republican, and a smart one, at that.

Cohen wasn't stupid, as most of the others, are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sure, President Bill Clinton loosely weighted hiring decisions on party affiliation</p></blockquote>
<p>He hired William Cohen, a republican, and a smart one, at that.</p>
<p>Cohen wasn&#8217;t stupid, as most of the others, are.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-154975</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What if the enemy in the eyes of Bu$h/Cheney is us?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They're just not that smart.

Lighten up, really, they're as dumb as they seem, don't ever let anyone tell you different.

They're morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What if the enemy in the eyes of Bu$h/Cheney is us?</p></blockquote>
<p>They&#8217;re just not that smart.</p>
<p>Lighten up, really, they&#8217;re as dumb as they seem, don&#8217;t ever let anyone tell you different.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re morons.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/08/terrorist-fear-mongering-and-torture/#comment-154973</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush is a barbaric ghoul&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Less that than a scared little chicken.

I see men like Yoo and Addington speaking, and they seem so personally traumatized, so out of their heads, I think, wow, you appear dissociated, like it's not even YOU speaking.

So, I figure the pressure must really be getting to them, same as Bush, and Cheney.

At this point, I think the need to fight FOR torture is borne out of need to avoid future prosecution in the Hague -- if they stop torture, they admit to wrongdoing. It's moldy oldy legal theory, but the men they hire to defend them arent known for intellectual brilliance.

All of their inept thinking shows itself in their inability to even plan a strong defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bush is a barbaric ghoul</p></blockquote>
<p>Less that than a scared little chicken.</p>
<p>I see men like Yoo and Addington speaking, and they seem so personally traumatized, so out of their heads, I think, wow, you appear dissociated, like it&#8217;s not even YOU speaking.</p>
<p>So, I figure the pressure must really be getting to them, same as Bush, and Cheney.</p>
<p>At this point, I think the need to fight FOR torture is borne out of need to avoid future prosecution in the Hague &#8212; if they stop torture, they admit to wrongdoing. It&#8217;s moldy oldy legal theory, but the men they hire to defend them arent known for intellectual brilliance.</p>
<p>All of their inept thinking shows itself in their inability to even plan a strong defense.</p>
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