Comments on: The Media’s Panderbears, Part II: Hillary’s Campaign Has to Do the Job of the Fourth Estate http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/ Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:19:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Jay http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155718 Jay Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:12:42 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155718 Lose which war? The war on Terror? Let me ask you...has anything close to 9/11 happened in the US since that horrible day? Do you remember how you felt that day? Do you remember the feelings of your family, friends, neighbors? Do you feel safer today? If you answer yourself honestly, the answer is yes, I do feel safer today than I did after 9/11. Not as safe as 9/10/2001, but definitely safer. We Americans are stupid. As soon as we feel safe, we start feeling invulnerable. Every man and woman who has given their life in the War on Terror is a hero, not a statistic. Those service men and women who are fighting the fight right now are fighting to keep YOU SAFE. Now that you feel safe you want others to enjoy that same feeling and if anyone DESERVES to feel safe its our armed services, right? Bring them home. Don't you understand that the real fight will come home and unless we remain vigilant another even more terrible 9/11 awaits us? If we leave before Iraq is internally strong enough to survive, we will leave it in worse shape than we found it AND we will lose credibility on the world stage. It will fall back into the hands of tyrants and warlords allowing unstability to rock the region and then the rest of the world. Whether we should've or shouldn't have gone into IRAQ doesn't matter anymore. What matters is that we are there now and things are improving. If we stay, we're helping Iraq become a better place for its people and we're developing an ally instead of an enemy. If we leave before the time is right, very bad things will happen. When America says we're going to do something, we have to follow through. We can't flake out. When we do leave, we have to leave a strong Iraq. This will take time and unfortunately, lives. Do you remember how you felt that day? How do you feel now? Do you ever want to feel 9/11 again? I know it sounds fearmongering, but it's really appreciation because I do feel safer now. Thank you to every service man and woman who reads this post. Thank you. Lose which war? The war on Terror?

Let me ask you…has anything close to 9/11 happened in the US since that horrible day?

Do you remember how you felt that day? Do you remember the feelings of your family, friends, neighbors?

Do you feel safer today?

If you answer yourself honestly, the answer is yes, I do feel safer today than I did after 9/11. Not as safe as 9/10/2001, but definitely safer.

We Americans are stupid. As soon as we feel safe, we start feeling invulnerable. Every man and woman who has given their life in the War on Terror is a hero, not a statistic. Those service men and women who are fighting the fight right now are fighting to keep YOU SAFE.

Now that you feel safe you want others to enjoy that same feeling and if anyone DESERVES to feel safe its our armed services, right? Bring them home.

Don’t you understand that the real fight will come home and unless we remain vigilant another even more terrible 9/11 awaits us?

If we leave before Iraq is internally strong enough to survive, we will leave it in worse shape than we found it AND we will lose credibility on the world stage. It will fall back into the hands of tyrants and warlords allowing unstability to rock the region and then the rest of the world.

Whether we should’ve or shouldn’t have gone into IRAQ doesn’t matter anymore. What matters is that we are there now and things are improving. If we stay, we’re helping Iraq become a better place for its people and we’re developing an ally instead of an enemy. If we leave before the time is right, very bad things will happen.

When America says we’re going to do something, we have to follow through. We can’t flake out. When we do leave, we have to leave a strong Iraq. This will take time and unfortunately, lives.

Do you remember how you felt that day?

How do you feel now?

Do you ever want to feel 9/11 again?

I know it sounds fearmongering, but it’s really appreciation because I do feel safer now. Thank you to every service man and woman who reads this post. Thank you.

]]> By: simon http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155666 simon Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:02:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155666 well, we don't want her to peak too early, now, do we? I just wonder what the contingency is for the democrats, now that Rezko is known, as are the implications for Obama. Since Dean seems to have fizzled as a leader, I wonder who will pull it together for them, and call it? well, we don’t want her to peak too early, now, do we?

I just wonder what the contingency is for the democrats, now that Rezko is known, as are the implications for Obama.

Since Dean seems to have fizzled as a leader, I wonder who will pull it together for them, and call it?

]]> By: bert http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155657 bert Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:29:27 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155657 Finally an issue (gasoline prices/energy prices) where being right from day one really means something to the American people and not just to the far left/ultra left, elite, anti-war faction of the Democratic Party. Finally an issue (gasoline prices/energy prices) where being right from day one really means something to the American people and not just to the far left/ultra left, elite, anti-war faction of the Democratic Party.

]]> By: Andy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155656 Andy Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:29:19 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155656 meant 4th estate .. sorry. meant 4th estate .. sorry.

]]> By: Andy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155655 Andy Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:28:35 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155655 Last Tue. was too much for the 4th state to swallow Hey even Frank Rich went "on leave" last Sunday ... sure ;-) So this week they have been in full force eithe rpounding on Hillary or by letting Obama's lies fly and rehashing old ones themselves (ie. Canada, Clinton, etc etc AGRRRR). And sure enough here is the what they want: look closely Poll Tracker * Pres '08 (D) Mar 10 Gallup Obama 49%, Clinton 44% * Pres '08 (D) Mar 9 Gallup Obama 47%, Clinton 45% * Pres '08 (D) Mar 8 Gallup Clinton 46%, Obama 45% Last Tue. was too much for the 4th state to swallow
Hey even Frank Rich went “on leave” last Sunday … sure ;-)
So this week they have been in full force eithe rpounding on Hillary or
by letting Obama’s lies fly and rehashing old ones themselves (ie.
Canada, Clinton, etc etc AGRRRR). And sure enough here is the what they want: look closely

Poll Tracker

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Pres ‘08 (D)
Mar 10 Gallup
Obama 49%, Clinton 44%
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Pres ‘08 (D)
Mar 9 Gallup
Obama 47%, Clinton 45%

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Pres ‘08 (D)
Mar 8 Gallup
Clinton 46%, Obama 45%

]]> By: IndyRobin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155647 IndyRobin Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:09:09 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155647 And then respect. There's that mutuality of respect between people where you don't see people as percentage points. Where you don't manipulate people. Where you're not interested in social engineering for people. The struggle for an integrated life existing in an atmosphere of communal trust and respect is one with desperately important political and social consequences. And the word "consequences" of course catapults us into the future. One of the most tragic things that happened yesterday, a beautiful day, was that I was talking to woman who said that she wouldn't want to be me for anything in the world. She wouldn't want to live today and look ahead to what it is she sees because she's afraid. Fear is always with us but we just don't have time for it. Not now. Hillary Rodham Clinton 1969 age 21 Our next President And then respect. There’s that mutuality of respect between people where you don’t see people as percentage points. Where you don’t manipulate people. Where you’re not interested in social engineering for people. The struggle for an integrated life existing in an atmosphere of communal trust and respect is one with desperately important political and social consequences. And the word “consequences” of course catapults us into the future. One of the most tragic things that happened yesterday, a beautiful day, was that I was talking to woman who said that she wouldn’t want to be me for anything in the world. She wouldn’t want to live today and look ahead to what it is she sees because she’s afraid. Fear is always with us but we just don’t have time for it. Not now.

Hillary Rodham Clinton 1969
age 21
Our next President

]]> By: Smilin' Jim http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155643 Smilin' Jim Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:59:08 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155643 Wednesday of last week, on the heels of Clinton's SECOND comeback miracle, did the Washington Post report an event equivalent to the loaves and fishes story? Evidently not for they did thusly warble: <blockquote>Even in Victory, Clinton Team Is Battling Itself</blockquote> Wednesday of last week, on the heels of Clinton’s SECOND comeback miracle, did the Washington Post report an event equivalent to the loaves and fishes story? Evidently not for they did thusly warble:

Even in Victory, Clinton Team Is Battling Itself

]]> By: IndyRobin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155631 IndyRobin Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:34:01 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155631 For those of you who have yet to read this stunning piece of writing, I highly suggest you do so. http://www.womensmediacenter.com/ex/020108.html For those of you who have yet to read this stunning piece of writing, I highly suggest you do so.

http://www.womensmediacenter.com/ex/020108.html

]]> By: JoeySky http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155619 JoeySky Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:06:44 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155619 i think as the novelty wears of, the effect of his stump speech is less over time. we will know the real result tomorrow. i think as the novelty wears of, the effect of his stump speech is less over time. we will know the real result tomorrow.

]]> By: mel http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155611 mel Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:35:15 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155611 So now blaming the Canadians again, this guy is dangerous as can be! This seems to follow the same pattern as the Rezko denials! But the media won't do a thing about it, will they! The real unfortunate thing about it all is that people still love the guy, Republicans that is! No one realize that the entire world is watching this guy? Dictators are waiting to call Jan 22/09 Allies are being attacked and going to throw what support to a guy who blames them as incompident When will the DNP and Super elegates wake up and set things straight before this guy destroys what friends America has left and hands the White house over to McCain? When will Sen Edwards come out of hiding and blast this guy as he tried doing in the NH debate to Clinton? Is everyone scared of being accused of being a racist by Michelle? So now blaming the Canadians again, this guy is dangerous as can be!

This seems to follow the same pattern as the Rezko denials!

But the media won’t do a thing about it, will they!

The real unfortunate thing about it all is that people still love the guy, Republicans that is!

No one realize that the entire world is watching this guy?

Dictators are waiting to call Jan 22/09

Allies are being attacked and going to throw what support to a guy who blames them as incompident

When will the DNP and Super elegates wake up and set things straight before this guy destroys what friends America has left and hands the White house over to McCain?

When will Sen Edwards come out of hiding and blast this guy as he tried doing in the NH debate to Clinton?

Is everyone scared of being accused of being a racist by Michelle?

]]> By: IndyRobin http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155600 IndyRobin Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:01:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155600 " Sissy, he talks purdy, but his two cent's ain't worth a dime" My 84 year old grandmother ” Sissy, he talks purdy, but his two cent’s ain’t worth a dime”

My 84 year old grandmother

]]> By: "I Don't Like You Either." http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155594 "I Don't Like You Either." Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:53:27 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155594 <strong>No Quarter Compiles a Little List of Obama's NAFTA-gate Statements...</strong> I couldn't love No Quarter any more than I do----first, for providing expert information on intelligence and national security issues without requiring me to believe that torture and acts outside the limit of the executive branch's authority are esse... No Quarter Compiles a Little List of Obama’s NAFTA-gate Statements…

I couldn’t love No Quarter any more than I do—-first, for providing expert information on intelligence and national security issues without requiring me to believe that torture and acts outside the limit of the executive branch’s authority are esse…

]]> By: AF http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155583 AF Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:32:55 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155583 Maybe she means yesterday's <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/us/politics/09obama.html?ref=politics" rel="nofollow">Obama in Senate: Star Power, Minor Role</a>. Maybe she means yesterday’s Obama in Senate: Star Power, Minor Role.

]]> By: TeakwoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155580 TeakwoodKite Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:31:09 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155580 Sorry plant buddy out of an Iraqi pokey. Sorry
plant buddy out of an Iraqi pokey.

]]> By: TeakwoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155573 TeakwoodKite Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:20:49 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155573 <em>Why does Obama want private armies to stay to protect them</em> BlackwaterUSA was responsible for getting Rezko's power planr buddy out of an Iragi pokey. Obama is aware of this. BlackwaterUSA has and facilities in Illinois. Obama is back to preaching BS, freaking lighting bolt effect between the ears Why does Obama want private armies to stay to protect them

BlackwaterUSA was responsible for getting Rezko’s power planr buddy out of an Iragi pokey. Obama is aware of this. BlackwaterUSA has and facilities in Illinois.

Obama is back to preaching BS, freaking lighting bolt effect between the ears

]]> By: SusanUnPC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155570 SusanUnPC Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:12:46 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155570 I didn't see that article, Anna. Is it today? Frankly, I've gotten so I read less and less of the NYT -- except Krugman. (I refuse to read that nasty crap from Dowd.) Anna, you have it right re girls having to do the cleaning up. And GOD HELP US if we don't have OUR GIRL in the White House in 2009.... the messes are so many, and so deep, that only a rare human being like Hillary Clinton can tackle it all. I didn’t see that article, Anna. Is it today? Frankly, I’ve gotten so I read less and less of the NYT — except Krugman. (I refuse to read that nasty crap from Dowd.)

Anna, you have it right re girls having to do the cleaning up. And GOD HELP US if we don’t have OUR GIRL in the White House in 2009…. the messes are so many, and so deep, that only a rare human being like Hillary Clinton can tackle it all.

]]> By: anna shane http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155567 anna shane Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:09:47 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155567 The NYT front page story on Obama's rise to personal ambition said a lot, why why so late? There are real issues, like why Obama's Iraq exit plan is only troops. while hers includes exiting everyone and everything. How can we let American business stay there and profit from our dead and their dead? Why does Obama want private armies to stay to protect them? Hasn't it taken enough lives and treasure, it's time to stop the occupation and just get out. But, media doesn't write about their differences any more than it covers his history. It's always the girl that has to do it all? Well, she'll do it all when she's president, she'll clean up after Bush, someone must be willing to do the gritty dirt and take the 'blame' for 'losing' a war. She's ready. The NYT front page story on Obama’s rise to personal ambition said a lot, why why so late? There are real issues, like why Obama’s Iraq exit plan is only troops. while hers includes exiting everyone and everything. How can we let American business stay there and profit from our dead and their dead? Why does Obama want private armies to stay to protect them? Hasn’t it taken enough lives and treasure, it’s time to stop the occupation and just get out. But, media doesn’t write about their differences any more than it covers his history. It’s always the girl that has to do it all? Well, she’ll do it all when she’s president, she’ll clean up after Bush, someone must be willing to do the gritty dirt and take the ‘blame’ for ‘losing’ a war. She’s ready.

]]> By: Fleaflicker http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155563 Fleaflicker Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:05:54 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155563 So Obama spends his day bamboozling and Hillary is out talking about real needs of real Americans. Sounds fairly typical to me. So Obama spends his day bamboozling and Hillary is out talking about real needs of real Americans. Sounds fairly typical to me.

]]> By: apishapa http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155561 apishapa Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:59:43 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155561 Obama is worrying about us-all being "bamboozled". Well, he's the Flim-Flam Man doing the bamboozlin'. We know a con man when he comes around. Personally, I think Hillary has made an offer to Obama for the Veep position. He turned it down. Great, she should stop mentioning it, and choose someone more qualified than Obama. There are many highly qualified Democrats who would be honored to be her running mate and who would be better for the ticket than a sore loser. Obama is worrying about us-all being “bamboozled”. Well, he’s the Flim-Flam Man doing the bamboozlin’. We know a con man when he comes around.

Personally, I think Hillary has made an offer to Obama for the Veep position. He turned it down. Great, she should stop mentioning it, and choose someone more qualified than Obama. There are many highly qualified Democrats who would be honored to be her running mate and who would be better for the ticket than a sore loser.

]]> By: Peter http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155550 Peter Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:32:08 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/10/the-medias-panderbears-part-ii-hillarys-campaign-has-to-do-the-job-of-the-fourth-estate/#comment-155550 I like the 'if he's not willing to be your vice-president' which goes to tone. Let's see how Obama is able to get in the media for Mississippi. MSNBC is worried Obama won't get the appropriate adoration as other things are getting too much media attention. I hate the bamboozle schpiel. Hence the derogatory comment Obambi-oozle. I like the ‘if he’s not willing to be your vice-president’ which goes to tone. Let’s see how Obama is able to get in the media for Mississippi. MSNBC is worried Obama won’t get the appropriate adoration as other things are getting too much media attention.

I hate the bamboozle schpiel. Hence the derogatory comment Obambi-oozle.

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