My Own Special Comment

Yep, that mean old Hillary is responsible for everything bad. Or so I’ve heard. In all kinds of places.

I don’t think they want anyone to look too closely into their financial adventures. As Saul Goode points out above, there are some things that are a little fishy in Obamaland. And it ain’t the tuna.

Well, you know what the answer to this criticism will be…. different verse, same refrain: “RACISTS!!!”

It is sickening and very frightening. Cept I ain’t skeerd.

And thank you for the compliment Susan.

Susan,

I have two sons who trust me in my political opinions, and support me all the time. However, they’re not as well-informed as I am. It’s all based on trust. They are for Hillary because I say so, but I’d like to get them to go beyond the trust of their mom. Any advice? And god I know how busy you are.

I can count on their votes for Hillary, but I want them to actively WORK for her, not just vote in the end.

And, as a mom, I can’t really push any further, lest I get pushed back by, you know, the kid rebellion thing. Not that they have done this, but I need meat, just in case they get ubsurped by their peers.

Any suggestions, links, wisdom? So sorry to throw another towel into the wave.

Susan,

this is a TITHE. He’s a rich man now as his wife admitted thanks to his book sales.

You act like this is a bribe or illegal. LOLOLOL!

Are you kidding? His audacity is clearly authentic! Obama believes he deserves to be president even though he has not bothered to prepare himself. He thought he deserved to live in a mansion so much that, rather than waiting until he could afford one, he made a deal with a crook. Now that’s what I call audacious!

The problem is not that Obama lacks audacity, it is that he is only audacious when it benefits him. When is comes to the American people, not so much. His timid health care proposal is a good example.

It’s the ole okie-doke!
You know okie-doke, right?

Reminds me of Ned Flanders, actually, Obama as Ned.

Hmm, a Simpson adjunt.

Susan wrote:

The stuff Reverend Wright said about 9/11 alone is enough to disqualify Obama for the Presidency in my book.

Imagine those quotes, Ayers, Auchi, Rezko, Iraq, juxtaposed with 9.11 footage, the towers coming down, the reopening of that horrific national wound, which hasn’t healed, yet, and then the soothing fatherly image of John McCain, and his experience.

Obama is toast.

Okie doke indeed.

Obama has manipulated the Racist Card, since he was young. Barack NEVER accepted the truth about his father and manufactured RACISM as the reason his father left him and his mother. Sharon, Churcher, a British reporter, found the real truth:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=431908&in_page_id=1770

Mr Obama Jnr claims that racism on both sides of the family destroyed the marriage between his mother and father.

In his book, he says that Ann’s mother, who went by the nickname Tut, did not want a black son-in-law, and Obama Snr’s father ‘didn’t want the Obama blood sullied by a white woman’.

In fact Ann divorced her husband after she discovered his bigamous double life. She remarried and moved to Indonesia with young Barack and her new husband, an oil company manager.

And who was the REAL Barack Obama Snr.

Although charming, generous and extraordinarily clever, Obama Snr was also imperious, cruel and given to boasting about his brain and his wealth,” he said.

“He was excessively fond of Scotch. He had fallen into the habit of going home drunk every night. His boasting proved his undoing and left him without a job, plunged him into prolonged poverty and dangerously wounded his ego.”

his father was not just a deeply flawed individual but an abusive bigamist and an egomaniac, whose life was ruined not by racism or corruption but his own weaknesses.

Obama’s Grandparents, the people who raised him, sacrificed their lives financially for him, settled for a small apartment, so Obama could have the best educatiion. This article has a picture of them with Obama, and it’s clear they absolutely poured all their love into him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html

But a life of sacrifice so Obama could have the best, was not enough for him. Obama writes these very RACIST comments in his book “Dreams of My Father”.

http://www.examiner.com/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html

• “I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites,” he wrote.

• “I learned to slip back and forth between my black and white worlds,” he wrote in “Dreams.” “One of those tricks I had learned: People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves. They were more than satisfied; they were relieved — such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn’t seem angry all the time.”

• …he vowed that he would “never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.”

• “To admit our doubt and confusion to whites, to open up our psyches to general examination by those who had caused so much of the damage in the first place, seemed ludicrous, itself an expression of self-hatred,” he wrote.

So it is no accident he chose Rev. Wright as a Mentor. The Reverand’s speeches reflect Obama’s true feelings, as do the hate filled screeds of Louis Farrakhan, Leader of the Nation of Islam.

How very sad that a person who had every advantage, is filled with so much anger and hate. In addition to serial lying, being a total fraud, harkening only to the pay masters who foot his bills, Obama has some very very serious psychological problems.

The idea of someone even more screwed up than GWB, being in ANY governing or decision making position, is horrifying to me. The damage this person would create is incalculable!

Frankly, I wouldn’t want us to win.

Why do we, as democrats, have such weak leaders?

I thought Dean was supposed to change the DNC, and it appears he has made it worse.

Your last sentence is profound. As is every other one you wrote.

He labels all “rich, white, males” as the enemy

Out of curiosity, how does he compare to Farrakhan?

“Stereotypes lead to intolerance, and intolerance to bigotry”

bigotry leads to hate, hate leads you to….the darkside

Well, according to the IRS they not only aren’t supposed to be doing that, they may soon be paying a stiff fine for doing so.

It’s no wonder Michelle talks the way she does about America.

It is obvious that he is a superb liar and a great pretender. He is probably the most dangerous man I have witnessed in my lifetime. While we all know these things to be facts and there is a huge mountain of evidence to support it, he still has millions of adoring fans that will do whatever he asks, whenever he asks it. That is real power. But it isn’t democratic power.

a) there are no video clips in this post

b) you’ve just found [Removed -- cooler head prevailed -- SusanUnPC]

These video clips are sure to stir up the white supremist.

Who is Farrakhan, say, but his equal?

They’re both despicable, and they’re both (”the white supremist,” and Farrakhan), IMO, nuts.

That is the downside to all of this. Because you are absolutely right. What we need is for the videos to stir up the people left with common sense and our party elders so that we can head this thing off before it spirals so far out of control that it destroys our party.

These video clips are sure to stir up the white supremist.

Are we supposed to suppress the truth? I don’t understand this comment.

But now that one of those closest to him has made statements that are at least as divisive and egregious, he needs to find similarly powerful words to express his rejection of those statements.

Glad he put the onus on Obama but I find this sentence to be a little more than generous if not disingenuous. What Wright said repeatedly is much worse than ANYTHING Geraldine Ferraro said.

TPM is still online? Must have lost my bookmark.

That won’t work for most people because he went to church regularly for 20 years. Denouncing him is worthless. How in the world did his listen to this stuff on a regular basis when he is half white and was raised by his white relatives? Can you imagine listening to someone denounce your family in this way?
Remember, Obama choose this church and pastor deliberately. (This is not like someone who was brought up in a particular religion that they stay with out of loyalty to family tradition even though they do not agree with a lot of it.)
Personally I doubt that Obama agrees with Wright(but I have a feeling Michelle does). I think he chose the church to further his political ambitions. So much for being a man of principle. People can compare this to McCain but at least McCain has not been sitting in a church every Sunday listening to Catholics be bashed.

Said very nicely. Thank you.

I totally agree. Racism does exist. I have witnessed it in my own family. One of my cousins got pregnant by a black guy and when she went to show my now deceased grandmother her great great grandson, she wouldn’t let her in the house. The good news is that my grandmother learned the error of her ways and after several months embraced the baby as a member of the family and treated it equally if not better than the rest.

So glad somebody got that. When black people wake up, they are going to be really pissed. Obama is clueless because he is sociologically disconnected to the African American experience. You think anyone in a Hawaii looked at him and thought African American? No, he looked like an Hawaiian kid. He probably didn’t experience real racism until he left the state and went to college. And I’m sure it was a shock. It’s probably the reason his college years are such a mystery. Probably couldn’t fit in any where. Not with blacks or whites, so he was a loner.

He’s trivializing something he could care less about. It’s just not a part of his experience.

Many of us thought that because the Democratic Party was more inclusive and had two candidates that had a chance to make history in this country it was a good thing. Instead we now have torn a scab off that shows we are not “enlightened” we are still racist and sexist and some of those that professed to be the most tolerant and enlightened are not.

I became an Independent out of disgust with the Democratic Party. It was more a gesture since I continued to vote for Democratic candidates, with one exception where I voted for a progressive Green Candidate against our Republican-Lite Democratic Senator Herb Kohl.

I have always been a liberal. I marched for civil rights, women’s rights and against the VietNam war. And now, because I do not support Obama I have been called racist, even by one of my own Granddaughters who is obsessed with him.

The ugliness of calling people racist simply because they don’t support your candidate, the rampant sexism in the media and the dismal lack of leadership in the Democratic Party is tearing the party apart.

I held my nose and voted for John Kerry in 2004 even though I had no use for him. He was, in my estimation, slightly better than George Bush. But then something that crawled out from under a rock was better than Bush.

There is nothing that will make me vote for Obama if he is the candidate. It has nothing to do with the color of his skin. It has everything to do with a man, and his supporters that are willing to tear the country apart, tear their party apart, and set back race relations for a decade.

I wish I thought that wiser heads would prevail. But the media picked our candidates for us, they have now picked our nominee for us and by November they will have discovered (surprise)that Obama fooled them and Senator Hero/Straight-talker/Maverick McCain should be President.

Thanks folks, first you let the media lie and contort everything so that you could believe Bush was anything except the idiot he is. Now you are willing to let the media lead you down the American Idol election path and unfortunately the rest of us will pay the same penalty that you pay. Except we won’t deserve it.

But…but AUCHI! And Pastor WRIGHT and…and SLUMLORDS! And conspiratorial BAMBOOZLINGS don’t be such a misogynist Kathleen!

Why do you hate America?!

(Great link. I’ve commented here before in regards Hillary’s clusterbomb vote. Usually pesky things like this conveniently get lost in all the hub bub about who said what to who on the Daily Kos and rumours that Obama hates puppies. LABRADOR PUPPIES!!)

Go after Hillary but she isn’t Obama’s problem; Obama is Obama’s problem. He is going to eventually have to answer how he can unite all people when attending a church for 20 years that had a minister that spewed hatred for whites, the Jewish community and America. He is going to have to answer what he was doing during his years at Occidental University and Columbia University. He is going to have to answer more than 8 questions about his relationship with Rezko and their real estate deal. Obama is going to have to answer how he can say he opposed the Iraq war when he voted to fund it several times and voted against a bill that would have withdrawn our soldiers. Obama is going to have to answer about his connections with Auchi, Bill Ayers, and Farrakhan, and the list goes on. His political rhetoric presenting a platform (e.g., NAFTA, leaving Iraq) has already been exposed for being untrue. Much more will emerge.

The nice thing about Obama is that he truly hasn’t been vetted and there will be a lot that will be revealed by the Republican, if he gets the Democratic nomination. Hillary has been kind to Obama due, in part, to her loyalty to the Democratic Party. The Republicans don’t care a hoot about Obama or the Democratic Party.

I don’t agree with her vote about cluster bombs.

Kathleen,

I couldn’t agree more. Cluster bombs aren’t good for anyone and should be outlawed everywhere.

That is one of the things that I don’t like about Hillary Clinton. And there are others.

I wanted John Edwards. Now we have to decide between the 2 Democratic candidates that the media has chosen for us.

I find Hillary Clinton better. Much better. So that’s where my support goes. Not joyfully as I would have supported John Edwards, but certain that she’s the best of the two.

I don’t demonize any candidate. I find McCain a war-monger and that’s enough to eliminate him from any consideration from me.

I find Obama disingenuous and willing to destroy the Democratic Party if it enables him to go forward and that’s enough to eliminate him from any consideration from me.

All we can do is keep up the pressure to get rid of cluster bombs. Once it becomes hazardous to their re-elections politicians will do the right thing. Wish I had more faith in human nature and believed they would do the right thing irregardless. Sadly, I don’t.

Noone is quarreling with Wright’s comments about social injustice, or
federal guidelines. He is not an original thinker on this and many many people who do not sprinkle their speech freely with hate also point these out.

At issue here are all his other remarks, and hate speech, highly anti-semitic and more.

A person could say wonderful things among hateful things. As a police officer you know that all those correct things do not and cannot erase a “major offense” repeated over 20 years.

If you still choose to associate yourself with such a person then that mean you tolerate all the other hateful speech. And it is that what separates Obama from people like me (and many here). I draw the line right there for I cannot and will not stomach that hate speech for one second, let alone 20 years, no matter what else Wright may say.

You sound oh so reasonable while defending that racist cretin and his “God Damn America” screed. I may have been born at night, but it wasn’t last night.

I’ll ask it again…would we be even having this conversation if Hillary had won 12 primacaucases on the trot and led both the delegate and popular vote counts?

Doubtful. We’d be (though i’m not sure with some of the whacky opinion makers i’ve seen on this site sometimes) throwing the kitchen sink at Mcain.

Yes, Wright can say whatever he likes. However, Obama continued to attend his sermons for 20 years. This shows complicacy on Obama’s part. It also clearly shows Obama is disingenuous either to the church members (because he disagreed with the message and continued to attend the church), or to the American people (because he states he is not racist but continues to attend a church which has sermons that are clearly racist). He is no uniter but a hypocrite.

1) I agree with a lot of Wright’s remarks in that particular video.
2) I don’t agree with what he said about Hillary in a church. His rant was not only clueless, it was illegal. It is not okay for a religious leader to tell people how to vote. It’s called the separation of church and state.
3) Many Hillary supporters are actually aware that she has faults and that she is not perfect. We support her anyway because she is a good candidate and a good person. By contrast, most of you Obamans are completely close-minded when it comes to your candidate. It is absolutely off-putting and disgusting how smug and superior you are over Obama’s supposed perfection.
4) Neither candidate can win the nomination no matter what they do at this point. The math doesn’t permit it. That’s why it ain’t over till it’s over.

He can say whatever he chooses. And so will I. I earned that right when I was born as an American citizen.

So only those who have served in the military have “EARNED THE RIGHT” (zomg!11!!!eleventyone!1!!) to speak their minds in public?
And those who have served may not be questioned in any way or at any time?

Huh, good to know.
So the new progressive standard for civil inclusion is less fair, less thoughtful, and more repressive than the politcal system in Starship Troopers. At least there they had provisions for everyone, regardelss of physical ability, to serve and obtain politcal rights if they wanted to.
Too authoritatian for Heinlein. That’s something to be proud of there.

I bet we don’t get Doogie Howser in a leather coat either.

With all due respect, no honorable Marine would utter obscenities from a pulpit in a congregation full of children.

Obviously, you know NOTHING about Marines.

Idiot.

Put all Obama’s together and they are not only new, but disturbing, and not singular to him, but his associates and more importantly his wife!

You know, the kos guys are old, 44 is the average age.

Like Olbermann.

For the record, I am a Hillary supporter and I am 24. Far from old. And just you watch, the longer the campaign continues, the less enthusiastic those young Obamabots will be. I guarantee he’s lost a couple thousand due to just this Wright fiasco in the past two days.

This may at first sound bad for Dems in the future, but just so I you know, I too, was once a naive new voter, and my hopes were crushed in 2000, but I picked myself up and remain a steadfast progressive. Don’t under-estimate the power of loathing for republicans and how it can unite all those people who really truly do want change.

Great point. I love how some of the Obama supporters have taken on his middle name. There is a website that advocates this. This is something my friends and I would have done in junior high. I don’t care what name people use but it shows the level of maturity (or lack) of the Obama campaign. The U.S. needs mature leadership. Not a group chanting Obama’s name and acting like this is a junior high election.

I have no problem accepting that people have different values than I do. I welcome difference. But racism and sexism are two things I won’t put up with from anyone.

When Bush ran in the 2000 election, he ran on a platform of uniting the country and staying out of the affairs of other countries. If anyone did their homework and researched his background, they would have discovered what Bush was really about. We now have Obama with similar rhetoric. We have a chance to research his background (not just listen to his PR) and discover what this guy is really about. But people are ignoring Obama’s background and who he really is. It’s the same thing Republicans did with Bush-and look what happened. Once in office, Bush was not who he said he was and his platforms were the oppose from his campaign rhetoric.

Obama’s real intent has already been verified through inconsistent platforms and side statements made on Iraq and NAFTA. We need to think before acting and not make another mistake like the Republicans did in 2000 and 2004. American cannot afford to make another mistake.

it won’t play to the part of the country that could care less about analyzing the social justice veracity of his statements

That group though is usually the most racist.

I don’t have a problem with people working toward equality and acceptance. I support them fully. But when people cross the line and start placing people in distinct categories based upon their race I stop supporting them and start working against them.

If there are disparities bring them to the forefront civilly where we can discuss how they may be remedied. I respect that. I don’t respect racists no matter how bad things are for them.

Totally agree.

Very well said!

A shame he doesn’t more hair to cut off.

I don’t know how he will be able to sincerely distance himself from this. But he is an expert bamboozler so he may be able to hoodwink himself out of this one yet. LOL!

BO is completely unprepared to be commander in chief

Heh!

There is a Nick Lowe song ” Bo Skidaddle” that could be about Obama the poser.

“Oh, BO….”

Does Olberman not remember Donnie McCurkin who was featured on an Obama fudraising tour?

I think this is very sad, as much as we all sense and fight the nonsensical hatred Wright and Farrakhan project irrationally toward Anglos, the LGBT community is being hit the worst, with, IMO, little defense.

Which means they’ll be considered more of a target, tacit approval by Obama to persecute, IMO.