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	<title>Comments on: Hillary + WON = 44</title>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Hauselman</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/15/hillary-won-44/#comment-170566</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Hauselman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the math as I see it:

There are 689 total delegates left. Let&#039;s just say Obama get 45 percent of those (310). If you add that to his total, he will have a sum total (including super delegates) of 1,932.

That leaves only a difference of 93 Super delegates needed to get to 2,025. There are 247 Super Delegates left - does anyone really think that he wouldn&#039;t get at least 37 percent of the remaining Super Delegate votes?

It appears to me that there will be no need for back room dealing in this scenario, and the man with the most votes, states, and pledged delegates will have the 2,025 needed to secure the nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the math as I see it:</p>
<p>There are 689 total delegates left. Let&#8217;s just say Obama get 45 percent of those (310). If you add that to his total, he will have a sum total (including super delegates) of 1,932.</p>
<p>That leaves only a difference of 93 Super delegates needed to get to 2,025. There are 247 Super Delegates left &#8211; does anyone really think that he wouldn&#8217;t get at least 37 percent of the remaining Super Delegate votes?</p>
<p>It appears to me that there will be no need for back room dealing in this scenario, and the man with the most votes, states, and pledged delegates will have the 2,025 needed to secure the nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: YOU ARE AN IDIOT</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/15/hillary-won-44/#comment-169615</link>
		<dc:creator>YOU ARE AN IDIOT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You act as though Obama won&#039;t win California, or New York, and he most certainly will.  In fact a recent poll shows that he may infact have a legitimate shot of winning texas against McCain, where as Hillary gets destroyed.  If you&#039;re going to analyze the facts, analyze all the facts, not just the ones that support your point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You act as though Obama won&#8217;t win California, or New York, and he most certainly will.  In fact a recent poll shows that he may infact have a legitimate shot of winning texas against McCain, where as Hillary gets destroyed.  If you&#8217;re going to analyze the facts, analyze all the facts, not just the ones that support your point.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/15/hillary-won-44/#comment-161704</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a poorly written article. It is ridiculous to think that Obama would not carry democratic party strong holds such as CA, NY, MA.

Not mentioned as swing states: WI, WA, OR

And it is sad that some think that Clinton will carry a state such as Michigan when she somehow only managed 55% of the popular vote while running essentially unopposed. Pathetic. 

This article and many of the commenter&#039;s are in dire need of a reality check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a poorly written article. It is ridiculous to think that Obama would not carry democratic party strong holds such as CA, NY, MA.</p>
<p>Not mentioned as swing states: WI, WA, OR</p>
<p>And it is sad that some think that Clinton will carry a state such as Michigan when she somehow only managed 55% of the popular vote while running essentially unopposed. Pathetic. </p>
<p>This article and many of the commenter&#8217;s are in dire need of a reality check.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/15/hillary-won-44/#comment-160820</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JANGLES..

That was interesting..Thanks for your perspective..</description>
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<p>That was interesting..Thanks for your perspective..</p>
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		<title>By: jangles</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/15/hillary-won-44/#comment-160819</link>
		<dc:creator>jangles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rule Changes Argument:  Here is what I do not like about the argument that rules are rules and we should enforce them no matter what.  It was stupid for the party to decide to punish the Dem party leaders in either MI or FL by taking all delegates.  The people who get punished are the voters, not the delegates and I think that is a huge issue, especially in FL.  When 1.5 million people go to the polls and vote in a state that we always need to win (and have lost in the last two presidential elections) then coming up with a punishment  that denies the votes of the people makes no sense.  A much better solution would have been to strip the state of its Automatic delegates and/or cut its delegate allocation in half.  The other problem with this mess is that the FL Dems tried to overturn this provision which was put in place by the Repub. legislature.  In hindsight the DNC came up with a really dumb, undemocratic and unrealistic solution that was politically stupid.  If Obama is such a uniter and believes in expanding access to voters, etc, I would expect to see him provide leadership in coming up with a solution THAT WOULD BE FAIR TO BOTH HIM AND HILLARY AND HELP TO HEAL WOUNDS IN FL AND MI FOR VOTERS AND BRING DEMS IN THESE 2 STATES FIRMLY INTO OUR CAMP.  When you say well, if Hillary was ahead she would take the same position he is taking...blocking a resolution of the conflict....then I say that would show poor leadership from her AND POLITICS AS USUAL.  The real political change would be to do what is right for the voters and what will build Democratic party membership in years to come in these states.  If Obama did something like that, he would prove his words and probably wind up winning most of the remaining primaries by big margins so that in the end he would ensure his victory, not threaten it.  That would be a risk and it would take real courage. Jangles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rule Changes Argument:  Here is what I do not like about the argument that rules are rules and we should enforce them no matter what.  It was stupid for the party to decide to punish the Dem party leaders in either MI or FL by taking all delegates.  The people who get punished are the voters, not the delegates and I think that is a huge issue, especially in FL.  When 1.5 million people go to the polls and vote in a state that we always need to win (and have lost in the last two presidential elections) then coming up with a punishment  that denies the votes of the people makes no sense.  A much better solution would have been to strip the state of its Automatic delegates and/or cut its delegate allocation in half.  The other problem with this mess is that the FL Dems tried to overturn this provision which was put in place by the Repub. legislature.  In hindsight the DNC came up with a really dumb, undemocratic and unrealistic solution that was politically stupid.  If Obama is such a uniter and believes in expanding access to voters, etc, I would expect to see him provide leadership in coming up with a solution THAT WOULD BE FAIR TO BOTH HIM AND HILLARY AND HELP TO HEAL WOUNDS IN FL AND MI FOR VOTERS AND BRING DEMS IN THESE 2 STATES FIRMLY INTO OUR CAMP.  When you say well, if Hillary was ahead she would take the same position he is taking&#8230;blocking a resolution of the conflict&#8230;.then I say that would show poor leadership from her AND POLITICS AS USUAL.  The real political change would be to do what is right for the voters and what will build Democratic party membership in years to come in these states.  If Obama did something like that, he would prove his words and probably wind up winning most of the remaining primaries by big margins so that in the end he would ensure his victory, not threaten it.  That would be a risk and it would take real courage. Jangles</p>
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		<title>By: jangles</title>
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		<dc:creator>jangles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Dem is not likely to win TX;  no way Obama can take TX with the Rev. Wright tapes playing through 527 ads coupled with his gun history.  Bush is still big in TX and that state is not likely to go for either Hillary or Obama with McCain as the Repub.  As a CAian, I strongly question whether Obama could take CA against McCain.  Don&#039;t forget that CA has a huge military population and big defense industry.  The female vote here is not happy with how things are going for Hillary and McCain will have The Governator, Schwarzie, campaigning for him.  This is the state that gave political life to Reagan and recalled a Dem. governor in recent memory. Both the Assembly and Senate leaders (both Dems) have some major political issues right now and the state is in huge financial trouble, again.  Pelosi is of the San Francisco Dems left representing a small, very liberal, very safe district; the big Dem votes are in LA/San Bernadino where the population is.  I think an Obama on the ticket will lose CA.    Look at everything BO had going for him when he campaigned in CA;  he should have won by a landslide and he lost.  He will lose the GE here too.  Jangles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Dem is not likely to win TX;  no way Obama can take TX with the Rev. Wright tapes playing through 527 ads coupled with his gun history.  Bush is still big in TX and that state is not likely to go for either Hillary or Obama with McCain as the Repub.  As a CAian, I strongly question whether Obama could take CA against McCain.  Don&#8217;t forget that CA has a huge military population and big defense industry.  The female vote here is not happy with how things are going for Hillary and McCain will have The Governator, Schwarzie, campaigning for him.  This is the state that gave political life to Reagan and recalled a Dem. governor in recent memory. Both the Assembly and Senate leaders (both Dems) have some major political issues right now and the state is in huge financial trouble, again.  Pelosi is of the San Francisco Dems left representing a small, very liberal, very safe district; the big Dem votes are in LA/San Bernadino where the population is.  I think an Obama on the ticket will lose CA.    Look at everything BO had going for him when he campaigned in CA;  he should have won by a landslide and he lost.  He will lose the GE here too.  Jangles</p>
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		<title>By: Independent</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/15/hillary-won-44/#comment-160749</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are working on it. Amazing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are working on it. Amazing</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/15/hillary-won-44/#comment-160522</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is much more left wing liberal than either Obama or Clinton, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.acuratings.org/2006all.htm#CA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;realistically on a par with Boxer.&lt;/a&gt;  Therefore she may actually believe that a simple plurality of the delegate count should determine the party&#039;s nominee despite the effect of strategic Republican primary voters pissing in the Democrat pie.

On the other hand, she may be playing the long game, figuring that Clinton will sweep Pennsylvania and the possibly resurrected Florida and Michigan primaries.

It does not matter either way.


The superdelegates were created for the very reason that they are being used now, to resolve a difficult situation.  This party structure is very much like the bicameral structure of the legislative branch with the superdelegates being the Senate.  

Then, kiddidpoos, there is always the wild card that the &quot;pledged&quot; delegates &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delegate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;do not really have to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is much more left wing liberal than either Obama or Clinton, <a href="http://www.acuratings.org/2006all.htm#CA" rel="nofollow">realistically on a par with Boxer.</a>  Therefore she may actually believe that a simple plurality of the delegate count should determine the party&#8217;s nominee despite the effect of strategic Republican primary voters pissing in the Democrat pie.</p>
<p>On the other hand, she may be playing the long game, figuring that Clinton will sweep Pennsylvania and the possibly resurrected Florida and Michigan primaries.</p>
<p>It does not matter either way.</p>
<p>The superdelegates were created for the very reason that they are being used now, to resolve a difficult situation.  This party structure is very much like the bicameral structure of the legislative branch with the superdelegates being the Senate.  </p>
<p>Then, kiddidpoos, there is always the wild card that the &#8220;pledged&#8221; delegates <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delegate" rel="nofollow">do not really have to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged.</a></p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Under the rules in place, Obama won and Hillary lost. I know that interferes with the entitlement mentality you folks have,&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Do you really believe your own spin?

Is this the truth?

Do you see your bias, this will be used against you.

Again, every time you open your mouth you show people you have no fucking clue how you are being gamed.

And then you wonder why you get no respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Under the rules in place, Obama won and Hillary lost. I know that interferes with the entitlement mentality you folks have,</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you really believe your own spin?</p>
<p>Is this the truth?</p>
<p>Do you see your bias, this will be used against you.</p>
<p>Again, every time you open your mouth you show people you have no fucking clue how you are being gamed.</p>
<p>And then you wonder why you get no respect.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/15/hillary-won-44/#comment-160490</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;know that is hard to grasp, when you are used to getting everything you want handed to you because of your husband, but that is life&lt;/blockquote&gt;. 

Maybe you should try something better?

People who understand how you&#039;re playing have already defeated your old shit, might wanna freshen up.

And it&#039;s less the misogyny but more the inability to create a new method of offense, this is really old shit, and it&#039;s been beat, like a tired old nightbat.

If this is what he thinks will beat Washington, he&#039;s got a big shock, ahead.

You really have no clue, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>know that is hard to grasp, when you are used to getting everything you want handed to you because of your husband, but that is life</p></blockquote>
<p>. </p>
<p>Maybe you should try something better?</p>
<p>People who understand how you&#8217;re playing have already defeated your old shit, might wanna freshen up.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s less the misogyny but more the inability to create a new method of offense, this is really old shit, and it&#8217;s been beat, like a tired old nightbat.</p>
<p>If this is what he thinks will beat Washington, he&#8217;s got a big shock, ahead.</p>
<p>You really have no clue, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama runs better against McCain&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK, but given the republican type attack, how do you think the press will be handled, America inundated with all we are discussing, here.

Gee, this is what it must have been like for the CIA, arguing the case against war, to Cheney, before the Iraq invasion.

No one listens...

Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama runs better against McCain</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, but given the republican type attack, how do you think the press will be handled, America inundated with all we are discussing, here.</p>
<p>Gee, this is what it must have been like for the CIA, arguing the case against war, to Cheney, before the Iraq invasion.</p>
<p>No one listens&#8230;</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your well considered analysis, Fleaflicker. It is educational and informative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your well considered analysis, Fleaflicker. It is educational and informative.</p>
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		<title>By: Fleaflicker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleaflicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think that Senator Obama is as twisted as some of his supporters. And not too sure this Democrat wants to fall in line behind him if he’s the nominee.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree with you about Obama. And this Democrat will NOT support him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think that Senator Obama is as twisted as some of his supporters. And not too sure this Democrat wants to fall in line behind him if he’s the nominee.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with you about Obama. And this Democrat will NOT support him.</p>
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		<title>By: B-Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So what is Pelosi’s agenda in coming out publicly supporting the delegate count as a determinant?&quot;

Unlike some Dems, Pelosi actually wants to WIN in November.  She wants the strongest candidate to win, not the one there on nepotism.  Go figure . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So what is Pelosi’s agenda in coming out publicly supporting the delegate count as a determinant?&#8221;</p>
<p>Unlike some Dems, Pelosi actually wants to WIN in November.  She wants the strongest candidate to win, not the one there on nepotism.  Go figure . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Fleaflicker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleaflicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DNC is the one that decided their votes would not count. The candidates did not have ANY say in the decision. NONE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DNC is the one that decided their votes would not count. The candidates did not have ANY say in the decision. NONE!</p>
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