And who is Ron Fournier? A long-time friend of the Clintons from Arkansas. Gee, do you think that could have anything to do with his dislike of Obama? From SourceWatch:

“Fournier began his journalism career at the Hot Springs, Ark., Sentinel Record in 1985. He transferred to the Arkansas Democrat in 1987 and began covering then-Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton a year later. In 1989, Fournier was hired by The AP, which transferred him to Washington, D.C., after Clinton’s election in 1992.

I don’t think their goal was ever to “win” the war. I think their goal was to keep us in an endless war. It’s very profitable for their friends this way.

I think they are very much in control. Dividing the Dems is an excellent way to get McCain elected.

This never works, I wonder why the need to encourage racism?

This tactic never works.

It’s true, at least Rev Wright stands by his words, even if they’re ugly words

I in no way approve of Wright, his words are despicable, and racist, but to pretend or use this issue to create a bigger divide between the races is ignorant, tactically ignorant, too.

See why the stupid neocons can’t win a war?

Because it’s conquer and divide all the way with those people, Obama and Rove, and no greater ability to anticipate the greater contingencies.

Again, despite all this division, Cheney has no control, in fact he’s losing control.

And the thing stinks like it’s been in the back of my refrigerator since 1971.

I hope I’m wrong, I admired the man, I thought he was set up, that whole scream thing…

Obama’s distanced himself from Wright’s “excesses” and I’m willing to accept that.

You are rationalizing, again, the whole slew of troll today has been specious reasoning.

Does this have to do with St Patrick’s Day?

(This is, btw, the reason we lost the war in Iraq, specious thinking, an inability to understand how and why. Instead of Obama, insert Sunni, and Cheney, say, and you have the reason as to why we do the things we do…Pelosi is to Obama, as Cheney is to Iraq).

You are trying desperately to xerox a premise, (and here is where those critical thinking skills come in) without understanding or recognizing the problem, the thinking that went into the original argument you are trying to refute is beyond your ability to understand. And because you cannot recognize the greater problem, you stand no chance of ever solving it, stuck with desperate mediocre PR attempts, as a means of temporary control. A full eruption of denial.

The one thing about Cheney, and Obama, neither has control, ever, despite all their underhanded methods to win. They’re both always struggling with defeat, never ever truly in charge of a situation, always putting out fires.

Given you are what you say, you sound like the woman who refuses to recognize she’s married to an abuser.

I am a Hillary supporter, but I also admire Dean and the 50 state strategy. McCauliff and all the DLC types were wrong about Dean. If they had embraced the theory Hillary would have the nomination all sewn up by now. The fact that they did not go in to all the states in any real way is why she is struggling now. I do not blame her for that. She is going to be a great president and I am sure Dean would be as happy as anyone to have the first female president.
Let’s let the Obamamaniacs do the hating and let us be the adults and unite the different factions. Dean is not the enemy. He may or may not even want to continue in that position. If he does I do not see Clinton trying to get rid of him. She may have advisers and friends who don’t like him but she thinks for herself.

Let’s just keep this up. And we will be in Iraq for 100 years, at least 4 of them under John McCain

After that, your comments were garbage.

You gave predictable tired specious arguments, showing no greater understanding of the statistical conclusions you quote as FACT, accepting what you see as gospel.

YOUR REASONING is why we’re losing Iraq, the infallible belief in the statistic. You quote it, showing no understanding of the HOW, and the WHY, or even questioning accuracy.

What is the bias of the statitician?

This is one of the reasons the Russians lost Afghanistan, btw, an belief in the statistic, which was being skewed and sampled incorrectly, not accurately reflecting the reality of the war.

And if the statisticians head is a little loose, well, you know, anything goes.

“Blacks will come home to Obama like they came home to OJ”.

Not if another leader can emerge, like Dr King.

It isn’t a matter of decrying Wright, it’s a matter of understanding hate hurts us all, all Americans, black people included.

AA’s ARE Americans.

So, how can we make it better, without feeding the hate?

I mean, the Republican fat Cheney’s are my enemy, too.

“Blacks will come home to Obama like they came home to OJ”.

Obama’s Minister Committed “Treason” but when my father said the same thing he was a Republican Hero.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/obamas-minister-committe_b_91774.html

“When Senator Obama’s preacher thundered about racism and injustice Obama suffered smear-by-association. But when my late father — Religious Right leader Francis Schaeffer — denounced America and even called for the violent overthrow of the US government, he was invited to lunch with presidents Ford, Reagan and Bush, Sr.

Every Sunday thousands of right wing white preachers (following in my father’s footsteps) rail against America’s sins from tens of thousands of pulpits. They tell us that America is complicit in the “murder of the unborn,” has become “Sodom” by coddling gays, and that our public schools are sinful places full of evolutionists and sex educators hell-bent on corrupting children. They say, as my dad often did, that we are, “under the judgment of God.” They call America evil and warn of immanent destruction. By comparison Obama’s minister’s shouted “controversial” comments were mild. All he said was that God should damn America for our racism and violence and that no one had ever used the N-word about Hillary Clinton.”

Instead of trying to destroy Obama, we should be hanging this salient point on the Republicans.

I am so sick of Republican misadministraion and crony capitalism. We need to get them out of office. Destorying our own candidates is not the way to do that.

Jack

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/obamas-minister-committe_b_91774.html