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What We’ve Noticed About the Speech

Everything I wrote earlier today holds (here, here, and here) — a long speech notwithstanding. But there is more. Much more. (A NoQuarter regular sent me a terrific “rant” that I’ve added at the end — do not miss it!)

Obama LIED repeatedly in the weeks before today’s confession.

Today, he said, “Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely …”

Compare that with what Obama told the Chicago Sun-Times on March 15, 2008, “But the sermons I’ve always hear were no different than the sermons you hear in many African-American churches. I had not heard him make such, what I consider to be objectionable remarks from the pulpit. Had I heard them while I was in church, I would have objected. Had that been the tenor of the church generally, I probably wouldn’t be a member of the church.”

But on March 14, when CNN’s Anderson Cooper asked Obama if he ever heard from others about Rev. Wright’s controverisal remarks, Obama replied with a flat “No.”

√√ Obama had the audacity to say this today: “….And the lack of basic services in so many urban black neighborhoods – parks for kids to play in, police walking the beat, regular garbage pick-up and building code enforcement – all helped create a cycle of violence, blight and neglect that continue to haunt us. This is the reality in which Reverend Wright and other African-Americans of his generation grew up.”

How dare he? With the hundreds of thousands of poor people (including thousands of black people) he ignored in Chicago — whose plight he claimed to be unaware of — while he cozied up with his pal Rezko? Read about The Forgotten People, whose stories will sicken you.

√√√ While Obama decried his pastor’s “view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam,” the Israpundit blog has noticed that an “anti-Semitic group has been permitted to post on the official Obama campaign website”:

March 7, 2008

New Black Panther Party Supports Obama; More on the UCC Issue

NBPP = “A mix of black nationalism, Pan-Africanism and racist and anti-Semitic bigotry.”

Noting that this page has acquired 396 points (presumably from activities with Obama ‘08 or ratings from other participants), it is difficult to believe that Obama’s staff is not aware of this page. Furthermore, there is a link for reporting the profile to the administrator. We presume that it has been used but, as with our numerous complaints about Obama’s promotion and endorsement of Al Sharpton, the reports have probably been brushed off or ignored. …

[...]

[Khallid Abdul] Muhammad’s rise through the group’s hierarchy was abruptly halted in November 1993, after he delivered a notoriously anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, homophobic and racist speech at New Jersey’s Kean College. In his remarks, Muhammad referred to Jews as “bloodsuckers,” called for genocide against whites, vulgarly ridiculed Pope John Paul II and demeaned homosexuals. The speech attracted significant media attention, and Muhammad was condemned by a wide range of religious and political leaders - including the U.S. Congress, which issued a condemnation in 1994 that decried the speech as “outrageous hatemongering of the most vicious and vile kind.” Farrakhan responded to the controversy by removing Muhammad from the group’s leadership, although the NOI leader noted that he faulted only the form, not “the truth,” of Muhammad’s remarks.

Then there’s a must-read article by the Washington Post’s Dana Milbank today: “The Audacity of Chutzpah.”

√√√√ Fafnir in a comment here today noticed that Obama even “Xeroxed” the title of his speech, “A More Perfect Union,” from the title of Jesse Jackson Jr’s book.

THE TITLE:
Remarks of Senator Barack Obama
“A More Perfect Union”
Constitution Center
Tuesday, March 18th, 2008
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Then there’s that the line is borrowed from Bill Clinton’s 2000 farewell address:

[W]e must remember that America cannot lead in the world unless here at home we weave the threads of our coat of many colors into the fabric of one America. As we become ever more diverse, we must work harder to unite around our common values and our common humanity. We must work harder to overcome our differences, in our hearts and in our laws. We must treat all our people with fairness and dignity, regardless of their race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation, and regardless of when they arrived in our country–always moving toward the more perfect Union of our Founders’ dreams.

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My earlier posts today on his speech:

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NOW, the voice of one of our regular commenters at No Quarter, who wishes to remain anonymous because he worries about retaliation from pro-Obama people:

Obama chose to solidify the black people with his speech. He united them together by saying that the anger of the Black people is justified. And then he turns the black people against the white people.

He’s telling the white people that you are dumped and ignorant that you don’t know racial tension exists in this country. We have the right to be mad because of white peoples’ action. We are the good guys here. So if you want to be good, join us. If not, you are one of the racists like my granny, Ferraro, and the Clintons.

So his speech aims to solidify the black vote, and “retain” the white vote using guilt. I’m saying retain because I don’t think he will gain any new white votes because of this speech.

This strategy will work only if there are a lot of white people who feel guilty that they were part of the white racists. This group of people will buy Obama’s speech.

Any white people who have sympathy with black people but don’t see that they have contributed anything to continue the racism, but actually trying to improve it, will find Obama’s speech very offensive. I hope that this is the majority of the American people. My feeling said this group is already mainly Hillary’s base. She might pick up new votes here.

Any white people who practice racism would never ever vote for Obama to begin with. So no gain here for him.

That’s why I think, no matter how beautiful and articulate his speech was, it has little impact to gain any new vote for Obama. He will actually be losing some of the white vote after his speech.

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Comment by Alibe | 2008-03-18 14:15:00

I have a question. It has been reported that Obama gave $150,000.00 of the dirty Rezko contributions to charity. But I can not seem to find out which charity. I hope it wasn’t to The Rev. Wrights Church of unity and pleasantness.
Anyone able to remembe ror find any specifics on the contribution.

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-03-18 14:26:41

I’d like to know too. We should ask his campaign.

 

Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-03-18 17:16:59

Tax returns /filings senate records; will tell you?

Comment by Mary | 2008-03-18 19:25:12

Obama says he can’t FIND his Senate records…..no big deal.

And he has only released ONE year of tax returns. NOTHING from pre-2006.

Comment by Andy | 2008-03-18 19:26:13

Obama says he can’t FIND his Senate records…..no big deal.

Wow, that is rich!! LOL … what a clown.

 

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-03-18 22:04:17

His STATE senate records … eight years of them. Every top journalist — from the Chicago Sun-Times’s Lynn Sweet to the Associated Press — has tried to get those records. He doesn’t have any, he says.

 
 

Comment by The Gringo's Wife | 2008-03-18 20:33:53

Can we ask the truly relevant question?

Is racial healing what we are looking for in this election for POTUS?

War, economy, healthcare … racial unity to the front of the line!

Comment by Hope | 2008-03-18 22:59:03

Gringo,
Yes what about these more pressing issues? Why is he lecturing us on race?

I’m still having trouble with throwing poor, white grandma under the train.

 
 

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-03-18 22:05:33

THESE are the donations he supposedly made in the last two to three months when he removed Rezko’s donations from his campaign coffers.

 
 

Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-03-19 00:14:18

Perhaps he “returned” the money to Rezko for his trial, since the man ‘lost’ 50 million the same quarter Obama gained 55 million.

Rezko posted a 50 million loss, so he needs some money somewhere. Obama said he “returned” the money.

How many definitions of ‘returned’ are people aware of, that would not include giving the money back to Rezko?

 
 

Comment by Patrick Henry | 2008-03-18 14:15:25

THANK YOU…

 

Comment by simon | 2008-03-18 14:18:34

Any white people who have sympathy with black people but don’t see that they have contributed anything to continue the racism, but actually trying to improve it, will find Obama’s speech very offensive.

I think Obama, and the others, have chosen to become victims of their ideology.

I will not be a victim, I will not contribute to my own, or anyone else’s, self imposed status as victim.

Ok, Obama and co are fools, spinning, playing the victims. Not all AA’s agree with Obama, or his pastor.

How do we heal this divide, now, so we never ever have another New Orleans, so we can finally address poverty, and racism in this country?

Because it does exist, as does sexism.

As opposed to neocons, say, who actually ARE victims of their ideology.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-18 14:21:00

Most importantly, racism exists, a virulent racism that must be addressed.

But just as Cheney and that type would exploit racism to divide and conquer, so would Obama to be elected.

And neither knows what the hell they’re doing.

 
 

Comment by S. Markom | 2008-03-18 14:25:04

I have been listening to Juan Wiliams who has been dumping on Obama and his speech.

He said that Obama who grew up in a white world and attended good schools needed Wright to establish an identity with the Black community. He is someone who previously supported Obama and is now clearly upset with him.

Separately, Wright’s rantings was over anti-americanism an anti-semitism. His speech sought to refocus the discussion away from the facts.

Having the New Black Panthers on his website should eliminate any support from people who have problems with that group.

Comment by salliort | 2008-03-18 14:49:57

I don’t know how many of you have seen the Vanity Fair article about Senator Obama (March 2008) by Todd Purdum.

In it Obama is revealed as a well liked, happy, and popular student.

Then Purdom drops the other shoe. We find out that the young Obama avoided “the only other black kid in his fifth-grade class (“as if direct contact would only remind us more keenly of our isolation,” Obama later wrote.”)

Senator Obama avoided the only other black kid, so WHO wouldn’t feel isolated?

Since it is well known the child is father to the man, I congratulate the senator. What leadership! What courage! What hypocracy!

btw, I voted for Jesse Jackson. Needless to say my vote is with Hillary.

Comment by Alibe | 2008-03-18 15:20:50

Obama always gives an excuse over why he didn’t or couldn’t DO anything. He is paralyzed by rhetoric. He can ONLY make a speech, write a book, ruminate about a problem. He never does anything. He couldn’t befriend a black student, he couldn’t walk out from a nutty church, he couldn’t be with his dying mother, he couldn’t confront a Tony Rezko about his corruption, he couldn’t demand the apartments be heated. Hillary is a doer. Obama is a talker.

Comment by DebDeb | 2008-03-18 15:49:33

I agree.

There was a really excellent article in one of the Houston papers this weekend… The reporter knew Obama well from Chicago and talked about how he was always three steps ahead, trying to climb as a politician, by taking credit for the work others had done. And how so much legislation was crammed into his last year as a state senator - all to make it look like he had actually accomplished something in Illinois. Which he did not.

I think one of the strongest images in the article referred to Obama as a social climber, and not a leader.

Without question, this man would make a horrific president.

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-03-18 19:40:22

 
 
 
 

Comment by Andy | 2008-03-18 15:54:34

S. Markom:

Do you have a link to this? I had one yesterday from Sunday on Fox; but if you have one from Juan W. about the speech I’d appreciate it !

Comment by S. Markom | 2008-03-18 18:05:53

I have not found it yet since it happened this afternoon.

Comment by Andy | 2008-03-18 19:30:33

S. Markom:

Remember what channel ? Or was it NPR?

Here is a great video from Sunday of Juan Williams
he is worth listening at on the Obama and judgment question. Here
is the video (scroll down to watch)
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/16/video-juan-williams-lowers-the-boom-on-obama/

 
 
 

Comment by Michael Lafferty | 2008-03-18 21:34:39

I don’t know how reasonable it is to characterize that Senator Obama grew up in ‘white world’ but, it is worth noting that he grew up amongst wealth and privilege in Hawai’i.

Punahou is a more than 150 year old private K12 institution, non-denominational but Christian in heritage. It was founded initially to educate the offspring of missionaries who journey to Hawai’i to cleanse the natives of their cultural and religious beliefs. And, one hell of a job they did—by the way—though that’s another story for another time.

While Punahou is a fine college preparatory academy, it is largely reserved to the elite offspring of the local population, which at the time he attended was roughly one third Caucasian, one third predominantly Japanese, and one third a mix of other Asian, Polynesian and other ethnicities. It’s hard to draw distinct lines and assign group identities, as so many are of mixed ethnicity, and don’t identify with one specific representative group or another. The key identifiers associated with Punahou are wealth, prestige and power.

I don’t say this to denigrate those who attended or graduated from Punahou, the institution itself, or Senator Obama. But, it is fair to say that while it might not accurately identify his household at that point in his life, he grew up and circulated largely amongst the privileged. He had no measurable connection to the ‘black experience’ at that point in his life. Blacks comprise only a tiny segment of the population of Hawai’i, and most of those a members of the military.

It all seems to be a part of the narrative the doesn’t quite fit, and I believe that the balance of Juan Williams commentary is quite correct: Senator Obama did need to establish ’street cred’ in Chicago, as his young resume bore no connection at all to the experience of a typical young black or half-black male in the United States.

 
 

Comment by Kefa | 2008-03-18 14:26:12

This is so sad.

 

Comment by Greenley Greene | 2008-03-18 14:26:17

Obama is the nominee. This speech is addressed to Nancy Pelosi and the Obama netroot orgs who now control the nomination. And they will not desert him now with this speech.

Without a Michigan or Florida primary, all Obama has to do is avoid a total meltdown and run out the clock. That means all he has to do is prevent revotes in Florida and Michigan and hold his Pelosi base.

The Obama campaign will go down in history as the most cynical campaign ever run.

This speech advocates that Obama - because of his African roots - is the one who can heal the nation of it historical struggle with slavery and racism. It is a very strong statement and pundits - the same pundits who trashed Ferraro for saying basically the same thing - will hail it as a historic speech.

This speech is the trump card in the racist deck of cards and Obama has played it brilliantly.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-18 14:30:38

This speech is the trump card in the racist deck of cards and Obama has played it brilliantly.

Obama is a gamed idiot, just more spoiled meat loaf in the great diner that is Washington, DC.

And soon headed to the trash heap.

 

Comment by GodDamnAmerica | 2008-03-18 14:33:52

Great point. He criticized Ferraro, but in fact he is making the same point as she did. Isn’t it ironic?

Comment by Nancy H. Armstrong | 2008-03-18 17:57:54

Actually two years ago Obama said he was lucky and basically blessed because of his race. How hypocritical? Yet he says those awful things about Gerraldine Ferraro. He is the only one who can talk about his color. If anyone else does it is racism.

Comment by truDem | 2008-03-19 04:40:11

Do you have a link?

‘Actually two years ago Obama said he was lucky and basically blessed because of his race.’

Would really appreciate the reference.

 
 
 

Comment by Andy | 2008-03-18 16:41:51

I am extremely sad to say that you are probably right…
The speech was certainly aimed at calming Pelosi, Dean and SD down and
keeping them under his tent. And they will happily oblige.

 

Comment by salliort | 2008-03-18 17:05:01

I have seen reports from some African Americans who are not happy that Obama is playing the race card.

Their reason is that Obama does not really carry the legacy of slavery in America that most African Americans have carried for generations.
His father was Kenyan. It’s a whole different cultural and factual mind set that Obama experienced as a child in a wealthy mixed multi-cultural school and living with white grandparents.

Hillary has worked for the uplifting of the African American community for years.

Obama ignored/allowed many of the African Americans in the south side of Chicago housing projects of his moneybags friend to freeze during the cold Chicago winter.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-18 18:15:29

Link to the Rezko trial, today.

Stuart Levine, the main witness against Rezko, is now testifying.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-rezko-court-story,0,7957753.story

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-03-18 20:14:33

From Simons link above. Can anyone tell me how to find out where BO was this evening?

Levine then related how he first met Antoin “Tony” Rezko at a dinner party at the home of Fortunee Massuda, a podiatrist who was also a Rezko business partner.

The dinner took place Nov. 2, 2002, just days before the gubernatorial election. Levine had served as the finance chairman for Republican Jim Ryan. Rezko was an important fundraiser for Rod Blagojevich, Ryan’s opponent.

 
 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-03-18 17:36:27

I agree. The nomination is his. The Party will take itself down in the same way Ted Kennedy took the party down in 1980. Ted is at it again.

And I’ve been saying all along that Obama has played the race card with the cunning of Charles Boyer in Gaslight all the while pointing the finger at the Clintons. The MSM was the supporting player who enabled this chicanery.

The joke is on the AA community when the result of this becomes visible. This is why I never supported this bi-racial terribly conflicted man’s candidacy. Obama needs therapy. He needs help.

Comment by norrismorris | 2008-03-18 21:22:23

Mimi,
thanks for your insightful comments. I see a pathological liar quite convincing in his ability to lie and invent.

the race card is his best card as it prevents him from saying anything relevant, and it points to the Clintons as racists which of course is absurd.

The fickle public, the horrendous press, and as you say…

TEDDY IS AT IT AGAIN AND WILL NOT BE STOPPED UNTIL HE PRODUCES ANOTHER TRAINWRECK.

KERRY IS HIS ADJUTANT, AND PITIFUL DASCHLE, HIS ATTENDANT. DODD AND THE REST STUMBLE ON AS MME DEFARGE TAKES THE PARTY TO THE GUILLOTINE.

 

Comment by BV | 2008-03-18 23:25:57

And this is one of the main issues I don’t think anyone is addressing…….he needs therapy. He exhibits all the tendencies of someone deeply conflicted. And he has made his life one of people pleasing. He becomes what he thinks any given person wants him to be. A chameleon so to speak. When one lives their life that way they lose themselves because they are always playing a part. Obama strikes me as merely a person acting the part of a presidential candidate. Thus the fake persona so many people are sensing.

 
 

Comment by flyarm | 2008-03-18 18:47:24

Then everyone better damn well get on the phone to Pelosi and let her have it..I have yesterday and today and I will call each and every day I can..and I have told her..you shove that liar down my throat, I will stay home in Nov..and you will never get another dime from me..nor another days work from me!

Let her hear from you!!..yes you!!

Comment by norrismorris | 2008-03-18 21:30:58

i HAVE RESIGNED FROM mOVEoN YET THEY BOMBARD ME WITH EMAILS, AND i BOMBARD BACK AND TELL THEM WHY.

I have called Mme Pelosi’s office, but her fanatic smile and “steely” resolve tell me that her staff daren’t allow her highness to even hear this.

Something more. A huge email petition to the Democratic leadership. Reid is quiet. But Pelosi leads the pack with Teddy.

The DNL and DLC should get en masse emails. If Larry could execute a petition, or anyone else, we could make a reasonable difference. Or maybe Taylor Marsh??

 
 
 

Comment by Mel | 2008-03-18 14:28:01

In todays speech by Obama, some are hailing it in the likenss of words of MLK and JFK! Sorry, but both would be turning in their graves right now!

Everyone needs to stpe back for a moment, as Obama as usual rambles on and on and on! *whew ok now?*

It is fair to say you can agree to disagree with someone!

It is fair to say that you can reap from a part and not the whole!

What is blatently not fair to say is that the time for bettering racial divide is now, when you are the instigator of such divide! To claim on SC as a victory both of blacks and whites when your own campaign created and flamed the racial flames before the primary as proven with the exposed 4 page memo, proves your willingness to win at all costs!

To say your church and all its good for the community does not fair well with your actions for your community, and you Sen Obama were in the position of power to do far more than your church could ever do in resolving such unruliness within your community, instead you sided with the Slumlord and the Crown family against your community, WHY?

Yes Sen. Obama, we wept for your story, but when the tears all dried up, rational came into focus and questions again started to arise!

You claim to be of hallowed upbringing as well as your wife, but truth is, you did fine in the way of American life didn’t you? You live in a mansion in a rich part of town, your first bid which was not acceptable was the most you could afford, well till your friend Rezko got your wife the cushy extra $200 grand at the hospital, then you could afford the additional $300 grand to buy the place, on the heels of your slumlord friend paying the max for a piece of encased land!

So now that we have again wept at your words Sen Obama, time to ask of you when have you wept, was it while those poor tenants froze to death, was it while that 60 yr old man died from your wifes hospital turned down caring for him because he had no health or money to cover his treatment, was it when the Maytag workers lost their jobs, was it when people were exposed to your friends nuclear plant leak, was it while brave men and women are dying in Afgansitan and you have done nothing, when have you shed a tear Senator Obama, aside from when you filled your pockets with dirty money?

Comment by simon | 2008-03-18 14:32:35

What is blatently not fair to say is that the time for bettering racial divide is now

For Obama, because he is a disingenuous hypocrite, in desperate need of a new speechwriter, some FRESH talent.

But Clinton?

Oh, Mrs Clinton, opportunity is calling…

Comment by norrismorris | 2008-03-18 21:32:26

Simon,

I wish.

 
 
 

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-03-18 14:33:00

LOVELY. JUST LOVELY:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/hayes

And if, of all things, it is his pastor’s heated
denunciation of American injustice that undoes the
candidacy of an African American with a legitimate
chance at the White House, any conscientious observer
could be forgiven for thinking: God damn America indeed.

Comment by norrismorris | 2008-03-18 21:54:14

Susan,

i read this and find it hard to believe. I have found an almost entirely Obama bias at The Nation.

thanks for the link.

 

Comment by RalphB | 2008-03-18 23:10:21

The Nation has become a bad joke. Sadly, the limousine liberals at The Nation haven’t talked to a real working American in years, other than their maid of course.

 
 

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-03-18 14:35:11

I could NOT believe he used his OWN GRANDMOTHER — and exposed her regrettable statements.

How horrible.

Would any of you EVER do that in a nationally televised speech?

Comment by simon | 2008-03-18 14:52:42

Excerpt from Lynn Sweet’s Blog on the rezko trial:

Apparently, Obama did not know enough to STOP ASSOCIATING WITH REZKO AND WRIGHT because he hadn’t been in Washington as long as Clinton.

He does not have inferior judgement, IOW, he’s just a green doofus, and it’s ALL CLINTON’S FAULT. If he had more experience in Washington, he’d of KNOWN not to associate with Wright, and Rezko.

Aye!

Obama, making Pelosi look better and better everyday…

But if his approach is to “blame Washington” for his political problems stemming from his association with Wright and Tony Rezko–an Obama fund-raiser now on trial in Chicago on federal corruption charges–as he did in an interview Monday with Gwen Ifill of PBS, it will be harder to get this episode behind him. A major strategic plank of the Obama campaign is to run against Washington.

Ifill asked if his relations with Rezko and Wright reflected on his judgement. Obama said, “And probably what’s true is because I haven’t been in Washington as long as Senator Clinton or others that I have not distanced myself from these people for as long a period of time as somebody more steeped in Washington politics might have.”

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/03/sweet_obamas_biggest_campaign.html

Reading the Tribuen, and the governments case against Rezko, Rezko is filthy.

Comment by Linda | 2008-03-18 17:41:01

What I do not understand about Obama is that his followers do not see how disgusting his always blaming others for his failures really is. He is claiming that because he is a newbie in Washington, he associates with criminals but Hillary knows better because she is more experienced. Shite!!!!!! If Hillary had ever associated with somebody like Rezko, she would have already been tarred and feathered. She was investigated for years over a land deal that they LOST money on for god’s sake.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-18 18:20:30

What I do not understand about Obama is that his followers do not see how disgusting his always blaming others for his failures really is. He is claiming that because he is a newbie in Washington, he associates with criminals but Hillary knows better because she is more experienced.

Right, Obama inadvertently making the argument Clinton is better qualified, showing superior judgement.

If he feels lack of experience, in Washington, kept him from making a good decision in regard to Rezko, the Presidency will present myriad challenges.

And what does any of it have to do with Washington, as he was associated with Rezko, and Wright, for almost 20 years?

Comment by DJ | 2008-03-18 18:25:52

Rezko was doing his dealing and wheeling in Springfield. Obama is not involved in anything for which Rezko is charged.
And if the FBI didn’t find anything on Rezko until recently, why should Obama know more?
He is brilliant, but not clairvoyant.

Comment by Mary | 2008-03-18 18:33:26

Sorry to jar your Disneyland, but the FBI had a mole in the Rezko operation, and he is prepared to testify that Obama and other Rezko-connected politicians showed up around Rezko’s “operations” often, to impress his business friends.

Obama was CLOSELY connected to Rezko.

Comment by Strawberrybitch | 2008-03-18 19:09:53

Oh dear God. Please let this come out before Obama wins the nomination. I know I’m jaded, but I have this sinking feeling Obama will still take it and the Republicans will feast on him come November….can Hillary run as an independant?

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by DJ | 2008-03-18 18:22:54

Linda, I understand that Mrs.Clinton appeals to un-educated or undereducated women, but you should really try to google Clinton’s connections with donors, some serving in jail, and some investigation by the FEC where they fined the Clinton campaign for fraudulent campaign financing report.
Read up a little

Comment by Mary | 2008-03-18 18:35:32

DJ, dear, I have 2 graduate degrees, and Mrs. Clinton very much appeals to people like me.

Perhaps you should back off ASSuming that Clinton’s followers are ignorant and uneducated.

It is Obama’s supporters who are naive.

Comment by seeker | 2008-03-18 19:15:37

Same here. I am also sick of being called “ignorant”!

 
 

Comment by IndyRobin | 2008-03-18 19:06:08

DJ…

I find it odd that the very supporters of the “party of chage” continually resort to the most basic and demeaning of stereotypes i.e
‘uneducated” Masters Degree STFU

Comment by Mary | 2008-03-18 19:33:02

I suspect our DJ is a young college kid with Mommy and Daddy still paying the bills, using “clever” talking points he heard on some we-love-Obama website.

He doesn’t sound too informed or sophisticated.

 
 

Comment by Andy | 2008-03-18 19:35:22

DJ, go try your misogynism somewhere else pal; and refer
to this woman as Doctor

How far did you get in school? Yeah, I can imagine….

 

Comment by Hope | 2008-03-18 19:49:14

DJ - Undereducated women? You have no idea who frequents this blog.

 

Comment by Bobbi | 2008-03-18 19:50:09

Well Obama supporters are misinformed, I am a Hillary supporter and I have two degrees and a master degree. Someone has misguided you or you want believe that, I suggest to become better educated to the people who supporting Hillary.

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-03-18 20:32:34

10 years of college level education has made me ignorant…geez.

In fact if we could all go to college for free, who the hell would want to work anyway? That would be OUTSTANDING!

The more I learn the dumber I feel. :)

 
 
 
 

Comment by Cujo359 | 2008-03-18 14:54:49

I’d have asked permission first, assuming she were still alive, but yes. We’re all imperfect - I think that’s one of the things we need to realize to address racism. Having prejudices doesn’t make you a bigot - not being able to see past them does.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-18 15:00:50

Having prejudices doesn’t make you a bigot - not being able to see past them does.

Some refuse to even recognize they have a problem, though, and that’s where it gets dicey.

I wonder if Farrakhan and Wright, or even Obama see themselves as bigots?

Does Kos?

Comment by Cujo359 | 2008-03-18 15:16:42

Without getting into specific personalities, I think being able to recognize oneself as a bigot is almost a contradiction. I’ve certainly never encountered any who I thought honestly realized they were.

As for Obama, I don’t believe he’s a bigot, and I have yet to see anyone make a good case that he is. He’s an opportunist, and he certainly has done some questionable things as a politician. I don’t like him, quite frankly. But I think on the question of race he’s displayed a good understanding of where we are. You don’t get that understanding by being a bigot, IMHO.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-18 15:19:24

As for Obama, I don’t believe he’s a bigot, and I have yet to see anyone make a good case that he is

Why do you think a man ignores the welfare of his black tenants?

Why do you think he allows himself to listen to a man like Wright, embracing him?

Is it ionic racism?

Sorry, those actions speak loudly, much louder than words.

Obama is a bigoted shithead.

Perhaps our ability to recognise bigotry differs.

Comment by Linda | 2008-03-18 17:45:46

I agree with you, Simon. I believe he is a bigot. He is willing to use black people to enrich himself. He sees other black people as lesser than he and he is willing to exploit them to the full extent of his ego. If that is not bigotry then what is?

Comment by Mary | 2008-03-18 18:37:23

Well said, Linda.

Obama IS the worst of bigots.

He’s even willing to throw his own grandmother under the bus to promote himself.

It’s despicable.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Michaela22 | 2008-03-18 14:54:55

‘good point about the grandmother Susan..but what surprised me most..he never mentioned his white mother…what’s up with that?

On another note…my take on this speech was…he addressed the AA but left lots to be desired for the white folk…and he is supposedly the uniter…when does that chapter begin….just saying!

Comment by mimi | 2008-03-18 17:46:28

What do you expect? He threw his white mother and grandmother under the bus long ago. His grandmother has been carefully hidden from view. He did this to get the blind loyalty of the AA community and their unwavering commitment. Had he been a bi-racial, multi-ethnic candidate from the jump,a lot of blacks might have stayed on the Clinton bandwagon. Obama couldn’t have that. He needed to alienate the AA community from the Clintons. He needed the same kind of blind, subjective loyalty from them that they gave OJ.

As far as Obama is concerned the only way to prove you are not racist is by voting for him.

Comment by Mary | 2008-03-18 18:40:44

I noticed that, too, mimi. He MADE SURE the media interviewed his Black Kenyan grandmother, but not a word, not an interview, for the white grandmother who actually raised him with love and sacrifice.

He NEEDED that Black grandmother politically.

That’s pathetic.

 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-03-18 20:43:29

I always enjoy what you post mimi.

he been a bi-racial, multi-ethnic candidate from the jump,a lot of blacks might have stayed on the Clinton bandwagon.

which from your comment I gather, that certian contructs prevent the AA community from drinking O’ kool-aid if he had been marketed this way?

 
 

Comment by karen Anderson | 2008-03-18 21:55:45

I found it offensive when he mentioned the OJ Simpson trial by referring to his nickname in the singular: “OJ,” as if Simpson is a “brother” and not a double-murderer. As someone who knew Nicole Brown Simpson and is a friend of Denise Brown, I can state for a fact they the Browns find it offensive when people refer to the killer as “OJ.” Coming out of the mouth of a would-be president who should know better, it’s highly inappropriate.

Comment by smartin | 2008-12-14 07:13:40

Is this the same Karen (Kim) Anderson who graduated Punahou HS and worked at GEICO?

 
 
 

Comment by PMS (Bluedog Dem in TX) | 2008-03-18 14:59:55

I could NOT believe he used his OWN GRANDMOTHER — and exposed her regrettable statements. How horrible.

Would any of you EVER do that in a nationally televised speech?

You would if you “willing to do anything to secure the nomination”, as Axelrod said about Hillary earlier. The Rove methodology again. Accuse your opponent of what you are doing.

 

Comment by Hope | 2008-03-18 15:05:39

He has obviously chosen his “uncle” the Reverend Wright/Wrong over his blood tie to his grandmother and has used her to make a political point. Through this disparaging remark, he has distanced himself from his white blood and has revealed his partiality towards his black lineage. This was a very disrespectful, hateful thing to do to his white grandmother who loved him dearly. He has not gotten past his own racism. He has though taken on Reverend Wright/Wrong to be his surrogate father, one could surmise, as his own father abandoned him and his mother when he was but two years old. Please correct me if I am wrong.

O’bama cannot even stand up and honour his entire bloodline. Who needs this kind of person in the White House. He’s far too delirious for my taste.

Yes he is an eloquent speaker, but so what. He has stirred up a hornet’s nest now.

Comment by Mary | 2008-03-18 15:40:42

Well said.

Obama’s desperate need to identify politically in the southside of Chicago led him to WELCOME Rev Wright as his “uncle,” but his own bigotry made him REJECT the very white mother and grandparents who loved him and nurtured the very “dreams” he wanted to make happen.

His mother never told him the truth about his father because she wanted him to love and admire the man. But the truth is, she divorced him because she discovered he already HAD a wife and 2 children in Kenya.

Obama never knew that until he was 21 and visited the Kenyan family after his Dad’s death from alcoholism.

His “Dreams of my Father” should have been titled “Dreams Nurtured by my Mother and Grandmother.”

But Obama was so desperate to prove he was “Black enough” that he threw them under the bus, and embraced Wright instead.

Ungrateful, self-centered twit.

Comment by Hope | 2008-03-18 16:04:32

Well said! And why don’t we hear more about the WOMB that bore him? Why hasn’t he come out honouring his mother more? Does he discriminate against her for her whiteness too? Disgusting! He should be paying homage to his mother for teaching him tolerance and understanding. It wasn’t his white mother who abandoned him but rather his Kenyan father who didn’t have the decency to raise his American born son! So why does he choose to write a book honouring his absent Kenyan father and then make disparaging remarks regarding his white grandmother who stood by him and didn’t abandon him, but proudly nurtured her biracial grandchild - as did his mother? Isn’t it because he doesn’t want to alienate the African-American community?

Well if he wants to put it all on the table then let’s go and let it all hang out as we used to say. Let’s just say it all people. That is what I intend to do now.

And why would we need a conflicted person like this for President of the USA? We’ve already lived 7 years + with a half-breed, dry alcoholic dimwit.

We need someone who is stable and isn’t still fighting inner demons regarding their mixed blood heritage.

Comment by Mary | 2008-03-18 16:11:52

Frankly, I would never vote for a President/First Lady who allowed their children to spend all their religious lives in Rev. Wright’s church, hearing all that venom and crudeness.

I am literally APPALLED that Michelle Obama didn’t immediately remove her lovely daughters from such hatred. Obviously, this is what she wanted her children to learn. Have those girls even MET their white great-grandmother, or been told about their Dad’s white mother’s love for him?

Shame on you, Michelle. Shame on you.

Comment by Hope | 2008-03-18 17:11:50

Mary she didn’t remove them because those are the values she wishes to instill in them. Isn’t that pleasant?

Comment by Mary | 2008-03-18 18:46:53

I think those ARE the values Michelle wanted her daughters to learn.

You know….hearing their pastor say Clinton did the “dirty” to Blacks just like he did Monica, while gyrating and thrusting his hips, standing in the podium.

If these are Michelle’s “family values” and these are the role models she CHOOSES for her daughters, then she’s not worthy to be my First Lady.

Mothers should ALWAYS put their children’s welfare above their husband’s political ambitions.

Period.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by HoosierHoops | 2008-03-18 16:00:02

Headlines from speech:
Obama throws grandmother under the bus.

Really, i thought Roger Clemons throwing his wife under the bus over steroids was pretty low..
But this is pretty low..poor granny

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-03-18 20:52:02

Then the reindeer ran her over as well, while BO was heard to say HO HO HOE…

Amazing headlines indeed.