A Great Reckoning
By dcmediagirl on March 19, 2008 at 11:42 PM in Barack Obama, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.
[THIS IS A RE-POSTING of the story originally published on March 19, 2008 at 12:42 PM. The 72 comments are below the fold.] Such is the state of the coverage of Campaign 2008, with its fact-free “analysis”, that at times it becomes necessary to state the obvious.
We told you so.
As Larry and my other colleagues on this blog have noted ad nauseum, it was only a matter of time before Obama and his followers were forced to face the fact that all the hysteria, fainting and fairy dust in the world couldn’t conceal the fact that an untested, unvetted candidate would at some point have to face The Great Reckoning, an unpleasant inevitability that all serious political contenders have to endure. And when that Great Reckoning comes, it’s best to be prepared, not forced out of the magical bubble to face the cruel world unarmed and unfocused.
While it’s lovely to have the ability to weave a magical mantle of unity out of the threads of an ugly fuckup, the fact remains that the fuckup is real and stubbornly unchanged. And if there’s one group of people on the planet who know how to use any event from someone’s past for personal advantage it’s Republicans. Yes, they deceive and twist and intrigue and can turn even the most trivial occurence into a crime and An Affront To Decent People Everywhere. That’s a given. They don’t play fair and, to be frank, they’re evil bastards when they want to get their way.
But the point is that this is hardly a surprise. We’ve seen this time and time again.
It was pathetic and absurd and irritating to listen to Obama’s supporters and surrogates bleating on and on about Obama’s ability to unite, going on about his crossover appeal, and waxing poetic about his support among even the most hard hearted conservatives.
And it’s inevitable that now Obama is in trouble precisely because he and his supporters started to believe their own press releases and hype.
Mark my words. We ain’t seen nothing yet.
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HERE ARE THE ORIGINAL 72 comments:
72 COMMENTS »
Comment by Fred C. Dobbs | 2008-03-19 12:56:17 |
What’s always surprising about Senator Hope-a-Dope is that he is, actually, a registered Democrat.
His tactics and his followers are SO Republican…
Comment by Patrick Henry | 2008-03-19 14:22:39 |
I Have to agree Fred..
The Tactics seem so ROVIAN..don’t they..??
Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-03-19 15:15:06 |
Axlerod ‘worked’ for Exelon, J Rowe has K,K,Karl for a friend. The cards in that roledex are not seperated by much.
Karl publicly offered BO advise….
Don’t think Bush would not call Auchi on the phone and say “you tell your boy Rezko to spill the beans on Barak and we will…”
The motivations to cover his own ass if a dem gets 1600 is huge. Barak has been sold out and does not know it yet.
Comment by simon | 2008-03-19 15:37:20 |
Karl publicly offered BO advise….
Never smile at a crocodile…
Every time I hear that story related…
Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-03-19 15:40:59 |
? Croc a wha?
Comment by The Gringo’s Wife | 2008-03-19 16:39:03 |
That darn piper is one heck of a bill collector.
I watched Obama today and let me tell you I think we can now call HIM “shrill.” He came across angry and then sarcastic. Something out of place when speaking of war. What happened to the cool cucumber?
(nobody answer that)
Comment by Nellie | 2008-03-19 15:18:10 |
Absolutely!
Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-03-19 15:29:05 |
Hey Mr Johnson…the “2 stories of Venice”…they still hangin’ around?
And why do I get the feeling we are watching the cartoons before the feature show?
Comment by simon | 2008-03-19 15:31:34 |
Speaking of the big guy,(Rove) this link, pointed out by a diarist on MY DD, contains one of the first sort of Obama/McCain/goddamn America/ ads we will no doubt be seeing, should Obama win the nomination.
The diarist on My DD referred to it as amateurish, but it still makes the point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N-1-g90bW0
Comment by The Gringo’s Wife | 2008-03-19 16:43:27 |
Simon,
I first thought Obama was using Republican tactics during one of his first speeches when he referred to Hillary as “Bush Lite.”
I was incensed! A democrat attacking another democrat that way? He lost me on the spot.
By the way, how come we aren’t seen the very logical conclusion …
Since Wright uttered all those racist and divisive comments in a political way and punctuated by calling Hillary a bitch, wasn’t it then the Obama camp who started the race bating?
Or is that too much sense to expect?
Comment by Andy | 2008-03-19 16:10:41 |
Dick Morris-nesque ?
Comment by The Gringo’s Wife | 2008-03-19 16:34:41 |
Just Dick.
..ifyouplease. :}
Comment by fribbles | 2008-03-19 13:04:33 |
By the end of the week, barring some major scandal by Hillary, everyone’s going to understand that it’s over for BO.
There will be tearing of hair and sitting shiva by supporters in both the media and blogs, but by the time PA comes around, they will accept.
Comment by Daryl | 2008-03-19 14:53:06 |
I think pretty soon you will start to see some of the pro obama blogs become less enthused. Since he’s made it clear that he’s not throwing Wright overboard, you can’t even have him on a unity ticket.
Comment by MessyMarcy | 2008-03-19 15:45:34 |
Yes, Olberman in particular may have to be placed on suicide watch.
Comment by Fredster | 2008-03-19 18:33:21 |
Oh yes! Please, please, please! Give Keith a sharp object! :-0
Comment by apishapa | 2008-03-19 16:31:09 |
Well, I’m sure somebody will say something that will be construed as racist, and it will be all Hillary’s fault. Hopefully before Friday, so that can be the subject of the entire Sunday lineup and save them from having to try to find something to talk about besides how really, really brilliant Obama was when the threw his grandmother under the bus.
Otherwise, all they can talk about is how Hillary attacked Barack’s grannie.
Comment by The Gringo’s Wife | 2008-03-19 16:48:49 |
They are holding on hoping for …
well.. hoping.
And perhaps they are also hoping that something really bad comes out of Hillary’s papers. So far, as much as they like to tear her down, the only thing they could do wat minimize what she was doing. All mentioned how hard she worked!
They also mentioned how many meetings with so many leader she had.
So, if Obama can claim foreign experience for having lived in Jackarta (?) when he was 9 years old, we can crown Hillary leader of the world as she has travelled twice as much and actually met with important people (not Obama’s family).
Comment by Steven B. | 2008-03-19 13:05:04 |
Just another politician from Chicago: a notoriously corrupt political city.
Obama looks as bland as ever.
Question’s Surround Obama’s Candidacy
Comment by rjj | 2008-03-19 13:10:10 |
An Affront To Decent People Everywhere.
I love this. ADPE. Google shows 200 returns for the quote.
Comment by Dora Ratquila | 2008-03-19 13:22:33 |
Beyond the absence of a solid track record as a legislator (which should have provided a good gauge of his stand on a host of issues) and lack of vetting, what ultimately doomed the Obama nomination was the candidate’s severely flawed character. He wasn’t what he sold himself to be. With the help of the Democratic Party’s Karl Rove clone David Axelrod, he took his “believers” for a ride - fans like John F. Kerry (who was unfairly excoriated and ridiculed as a flipflopper for nuanced statements like “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it…”) and several members of the Kennedy family - for example - who for some time would have to resist the urge to admit that they had been conned by a master of spin. In Chinese, we call it “saving face”. Fortunately, the latte crowd doesn’t speak for the rest of the party of the hardworking class.
Comment by PMS | 2008-03-19 13:24:24 |
Mark my words. We ain’t seen nothing yet.
My fear is they’ll quickly realize this is helping Hillary, and it will go deep underground, waiting to pop up after Lord Obama has become the nominee. It will lie dormant until after Labor Day, and then spring to life… shortly followed by an Orange Alert from the DHS.
Comment by Cujo359 | 2008-03-19 13:27:46 |
We’ll see if there’s a reckoning. He’s starting to look like Reagan in how untouchable he is. Rezko, Ayers, and the Alice Palmer thing haven’t touched him. You’d think they would have. Wait a week or two to see what polls say after people have mulled this over. Until then, it’s just noise.
Comment by simon | 2008-03-19 13:52:40 |
You’re delusion, little troll.
Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-03-19 17:52:51 |
SIMON. E-MAIL ME NOW. NOW.
susanunpc @gmail.com
Comment by Escoffier | 2008-03-19 14:11:00 |
The teflon has been scraped off. Now everything will stick. Is it fair? Who knows, but that is the way it goes. Insinuating that a former Democratic president and first lady are racists and will do anything to win (along with their supporters) while attending and financially supporting for 20 years an institution advocating hatred and racism, is one of the biggest hypocricies ever exposed in a national political campaign. He has rendered his campaign irrelevant since it was based upon truth, hope, change, post partisanship, post racial, and judgment. He now can run as an attractive young, inexperienced politician who reads really well from a teleprompter.
Comment by Salo | 2008-03-19 14:51:00 |
That’s the bit that hurts. He allowed them to be painted as racists. Clinton was benign on racial issues, and Obama knows that.
It’s very sad to see an internal leadership contest come down to something so crude.
Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-03-19 13:54:09 |
Murtha coming out for Hillary is a GOOD thing.
If John Edwards follows suit before the NC Primary that will surely help. It also allows the rest of the uncommitted SUPERS (some cover) that are in quiet SHOCK and/or RAGE over Rev. Wright but don’t want to look “racist” for immediately flowing over to Hillary’s camp. It seems you can’t be for Hillary anymore w/out being called racist.
The RIVER is flooding but the banks so far are holding. I need more popcorn.
jmo. :-]
Comment by alexei | 2008-03-19 15:36:32 |
The banks are soon to be overtopped. Curious, no word from McCaskill nor Sebelius. If they continue to remain mum or worse for Obama, show doubt; the flood gates will be open wide.
Comment by Terry | 2008-03-19 14:00:09 |
With regard to “The Speech,” I think one heard in that speech what one wanted to hear. Something similar is true with Obama himself. Some see him as post-racial, others, esp. now, as the healer of racial divisions. Some see him as non-political such that he can argue there is no red America, no blue America, while others see him as the legitimate heir to the Democrat dynasty of JFK, RFK, MLK, etc.
That Obama can be so many different things to so many different people bespeaks a deliberate manufacture of a candidate as opposed to the offering for election of a particular man. It is all too scary.
As for his speech, he lost the old white lady vote, that is for sure. And what exactly was the point of mentioning his grandmother’s bigoted comments? To claim that if one is related to white bigot, it is ok to have a black bigot as a BFF?
Obama’s grandmother and Wright are hardly comparable, unless she was and is the most influential person in Obama’s life spiritually and philosophically (as Wright seems to be) and unless she is the leader of an 8,000 member church with a lot money and influence to peddle (as Wright is).
That a man who wants to be president of the Unitied States of America can count as his most influential mentor a man who has asserted that the U.S. government crreated HIV to kill black people is deeply disturbing, regardless of the past leagacy of slavery and Jim Crow.
In essence, Obama has asked to forgive the contemporary rantings of a bigot because of the terrible past of slavery & Jim Crow. But, two wrongs don’t make a right.
Once again, Obama wants us to consider only his words (which his advisors have admitted are only campaign rhetoric in most instances) and not his deeds and associations. You can tell a lot about a person by who his friends are.
Comment by Salo | 2008-03-19 15:06:42 |
Obama can’t disown Wright because: without his Bishop, Obama can’t be King.
Comment by Nellie | 2008-03-19 15:52:17 |
Terry,
I heard Rascism in his speech - top to bottom. From his pointing out America’s forefathers let slavery issue ride for another 20 years to keep the Consititutional Convention moving, throwing his grandmother overboard to downright demanding that anyone, other than those with skins of color, should understand where Wright is coming from.
Well Wright has about 7 years on me - so I LIVED those times. We marched arm in arm - we “Lobbied” colleges to open up acceptance and registration.
AT THAT TIME - because of open enrollments, and a lowering of admission standards so blacks could attend - the divide in education was 10 times worse than today. They couldn’t speak the same level of English, writing and reading skills were lacking. Many of us spent a lot of extra hours in the library tutoring gratis so our black classmates could catch up to us.
Obama has the AUDACITY to disingenuously say in so many words, Blacks have a RIGHT to be angry - and he portrayed whites just as angry. He constantly plays the victim card. In all honesty how many of us go about our daily lives with thoughts of bigotry, racsim or misogyny at the forefront of consciousness?
Well RAcsim isn’t the exclusive domain of people with White Skin. What is MOST ironic is that Obama is so damn focused on skin color. I have had friends of color and various ethniticities. Once you truly get to know someone as an individual, you really do not see color or ethnic differences. Anymore than you are constantly aware of the color of your white friends eyes or hair color.
It isn’t until someone says something that these stupid external differences are noticed.
For Obama to “justify” his attitude, and entire reasoning on the color of a persons skin, shows rank immaturity, as well as a deep seated racsim and bigotry within himself.
The brown stuff rolls downhill - now that Obama exposed his own racist feelings, it is almost easier to understand why the Obamabots screamed Racist at the rest of us so much.
Comment by kenoshaMarge | 2008-03-19 17:24:00 |
When someone tries to be all things to all people they end up being nothing to no one. Granted most politicians try to appeal to as many people as possible. But most of Obama’s appeal seemed to be that he just threw out vague sound-good sound-bites and people supplied their own hopes for something new and different to him. He then rode and is riding those hopes.
He’s a phony and I’ve been saying it for a long time. But no phony, no con man can fool people if they aren’t willing to swallow nonsense hook, line and sinker. It takes two for a con to work; the conman/woman and the mark. Obama was lucky in finding a lot of marks and a corrupt media willing to help him con those marks. Bingo, Mr. Wonderful and his marvelous traveling road show.
When Oprah told us he was the one, we should have asked her the one what. She doesn’t seem to have a very good track record for a billionaire. She was smart enough to make all that money, aided by an enormous talent, but she doesn’t do well in the author department. She took her eye off the girls school she was generous enough to start and some of those girls were subjected to adverse treatment. She’s shilled a phony politician that she may well yet see in the White House. Maybe she should just stick to show business.
Comment by Andy | 2008-03-19 14:06:44 |
Obama’s speech yesterday was nothing else than a maneuver aimed at distracting the media and the people from Wright. In part his aim was to incite guilt
(on a fair issue) as a mean to dismiss his Wright problem.
The race issues are very important and he made very good points. But his speech yesterday had nothing to do with what was the core subject of his problem. Good try but as days pass people will read again and ask: so what about Wright and Obama then?
Comment by Valerie | 2008-03-19 14:09:00 |
Uhmm…has anyone noticed whether the media have said ANYTHING about Congressman Murtha’s endorsement of Hillary? This is certainly newsworthy, and considering Obama gets a lot of publicity anytime he gets an endorsement - again this points to a most-definitely biased press. I would think John Murtha’s endorsement carries a lot of clout. I have been going back and forth between MSM, CNN and FOX as I am typing my letters to Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean, and NOTHING has been mentioned. I even looked at the home pages on their websites - again nothing. This sucks.
Comment by Terry | 2008-03-19 14:13:01 |
No, nothing about Murtha, but John Lewis’ switch to Obama was very heavily reported in print and on TV. Media bias? Nah, couldn’t be.
Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-03-19 14:16:43 |
Exactly!!
biased much?
UGH it just wreaks of hypocrisy!!
MSNBC especially should hang their collective “drooling” heads in shame!!
jmo
Comment by tiffany | 2008-03-19 14:41:29 |
MSNBC’s ratings have dropped according to mediabistro. What a missed opportunity they had and instead they have become a joke!
Comment by flyarm | 2008-03-19 17:36:35 |
I PUT MSNBC ON CHILD BLOCK!!
easy to do..and that way they get no drive by ratings from my cable box!
oh and when you Tivo them they get double the ratings….so don’t tivo!!..not MSNBC..
Comment by allimom99 | 2008-03-19 16:35:15 |
Gosh, I wonder how Lewis feels NOW? this surely can’t be what he had in mind when HE was on the front lines of the civil rights movement. And now he’s stuck - it’s very sad to see how many truly worthwhile people have bee taken in.
Comment by Annie | 2008-03-19 14:19:25 |
I thought it was great having a female speaker of the house…..how long will she last now…..She is a cop out and worse, in the Bush pocket. As far as Dean…. he is no democrat.
Insanity now allowing Floridians to have their votes count.
Comment by kenoshaMarge | 2008-03-19 17:30:52 |
I did too. What a disappointment Pelosi has been. And the next time she trots out her little “Culture of Corruption” meme someone should tell her to go look in the mirror. Not correctly and completely counting the votes of citizens is something we expect from Republicans. Now it looks as if people can’t get any better treatment from the Democrats either.
Comment by Annie | 2008-03-19 14:20:58 |
p.s.
I meant to say ‘Insanity NOT NOT NOT allowing Flordians to have their votes count.’
Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-03-19 14:24:50 |
FYI from mydd
Survey USA Poll: Big Obama Losses In OH, KY, & MO Add to Hotlist
by andrewalker08, Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 02:56:53 PM EST
SurveyUSA is out with three polls today that shows the first signs of an Obama electoral defeat in November if he should become the Democratic nominee for the office of President of the United States.
First, Ohio:
If there were an election for President of the United States today, and the only two names on the ballot were Republican John McCain and … Democrat Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?
Clinton - 50%
McCain - 44%
Undecided - 6%
What if it was John McCain against Democrat Barack Obama?
McCain - 50%
Obama - 43%
Undecided - 7%
Next, Kentucky:
If there were an election for President of the United States today, and the only two names on the ballot were Republican John McCain and … Democrat Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?
Clinton - 43%
McCain - 53%
Undecided - 4%
What if it was John McCain against Democrat Barack Obama?
McCain - 64%
Obama - 28%
Undecided - 8%
And finally, Missouri:
If there were an election for President of the United States today, and the only two names on the ballot were Republican John McCain and … Democrat Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?
Clinton - 46%
McCain - 48%
Undecided - 6%
What if it was John McCain against Democrat Barack Obama?
McCain - 53%
Obama - 39%
Undecided - 9%
Comment by Mary | 2008-03-19 14:53:31 |
Those numbers are frikkin incredible.
Can you imagine the numbers in Florida or Michigan if Obama’s campaign successfully blocks a revote?
I hope Markos at DailyKos pee’d his pants when he read the new SUSA.
Comment by Salo | 2008-03-19 15:13:48 |
those numbers indicate to me that Republicans were sabotaging supertuesday: en mass. he’s below 40% in Missouri? That’s a must have considering that it borders Illinois and Obama will be hard pressed to get a good result in Ohio and Michigan.
Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-03-19 15:20:31 |
pee’d his pants diapers.
Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-03-19 15:30:41 |
ROFLOL!
Comment by Salo | 2008-03-19 15:10:09 |
Missouri is that bad already? lol. Obama needs to win Missouri to clinch the Presidency. He’s likely to get drummed out of Michigan and Ohio.
Comment by madamab | 2008-03-19 14:33:06 |
I am shaking my head in amazement.
All I heard from the Obamans for the longest time was how he was “untouchable.” He had “no baggage.” They didn’t want Hillary because they didn’t want to be dragged through the slime of the rightwing smear machine.
I kept telling them, “Wake up! The rightwing will slime any Democrat. We need to make sure our nominee can stand up to it.”
Obama clearly cannot. His response to this crisis - of his own making, unlike the hysterical rightwing accusations of Hillary’s cat-torturing, Vince Foster-murdering ways - was horrible. He told about five different stories before finally admitting yes, he knew, yes, he heard, yes, he still stayed at that church knowing it could be a problem for him in the GE.
This guy is well-spoken and smooth, but he is not ready for prime time. He should have jumped on Hillary’s offer of a joint ticket when he had the chance.
Believe me, she won’t offer again. Buh-bye, Barack.
Comment by TeakwoodKite | 2008-03-19 15:23:16 |
Vince Foster-murdering ways - was horrible.
I acually heard a MSNBC comment about Vince Foster’s Suicide…as “alledged”…from an Obama supporter.
Comment by rwc | 2008-03-19 16:47:16 |
Heard it too from on their reporters, was surprised as hell since its the domain Hillary haters.
What gets me is that a awful lot of newscasters seem to be a bit nervous covering Obama. Saw Lou Dobbs talk about Obama in rather glowing terms and the guy was actually sweating and you could he was choosing his words very carefully. The same goes for some other CNN types as well.
Someone is ordering them to pimp for Obama or else.
Its creepy.
Comment by PMS | 2008-03-19 14:41:04 |
Oh my. Someone in the MSM (not Faux) is paying attention.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4480868&page=1
Comment by PMS | 2008-03-19 17:38:51 |
My bad. Same section/reporter is now reporting on where Hillary was when Monica was servicing Bill based on Hillary’s document release.
“Sex!”
Comment by Kefa | 2008-03-19 14:56:25 |
We need to stay focused…..Obama thinks he can overcome this….he thinks as does Axelrod this will pass. We need to stay on top of him, not let him up, the MSNBC’ers will work for him to make this as soft as they can. The public needs to briefed about everything about this man. He is a insider plant for the anti-american people in this country. It is no coinciedence he is with all these kinds of people.
Comment by myiq2xu | 2008-03-19 15:15:08 |
Years ago Obama joined a church. Later he entered politics.
Whatever else might be said about him, whatever else the man may have said and done in his life, the fact is the Rev. Jeremiah Wright is politically toxic.
Maybe in some other time or place he wouldn’t be, but here and now he is political kryptonite.
Barack Obama knew this. He had two choices:
1. Keep Rev. Wright as a spiritual advisor and pay the political price
or
2. Find a new spiritual advisor.
Barack Obama chose option #1
Comment by Kos = off the deep end | 2008-03-19 15:26:31 |
USATOday: Daily Kos: Obama is Our Lincoln
Comment by truthteller2007 | 2008-03-19 15:32:12 |
Obama wins SC with a coalition of 79% African-Americans and 25% Caucasian voters, and he crowns himself the unifier. Welcome to the era of pure vacuity.
Comment by Tom | 2008-03-19 15:36:41 |
A video of Reverend James T. Meeks another Obama supporter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM2M11BsA3g
Comment by rigso | 2008-03-19 15:40:34 |
Buh Bye Obama, Wright will sink him!
Comment by Lorelynn | 2008-03-19 15:49:17 |
I think Obama was banking on selling the fairytale to primary voters that America is no longer racist - that’s why Geraldine Ferraro had to shut up now. A black guy saying he’s post-racist is quite a catch for our white, euro-centric culture. It’s the liberal version of what black conservatives do validating white rhetoric and imperatives. Then he paints Clinton as they candidate who isn’t post-racial - painting her as a racist only became necessary when black voters weren’t buying the first schtick. And voila! Obamabots are enlightened and Clintonites are stuck in the sixties and prolonging racist rhetoric because it serves our goals. Uh huh. I haven’t seen anyone more stuck in the sixties than Jeremiah Wright. Obama, Obama. me thinks you do protest too much.
Boy, and I though Kerry was a cynic. Obama is off the charts.
H
Comment by yellowdogdemocrat | 2008-03-19 16:41:17 |
i do not believe america is ready to elect blow job queen michelle hussein obama as first lady.
Comment by sonya | 2008-03-19 17:08:16 |
WTH? There’s no reason to denigrate Michelle Obama in such a vulgar manner. She’s an accomplished woman and definitely not a “blow job queen.”
Comment by Andy | 2008-03-19 17:17:23 |
Hey yellowdogdemocrat
the “blow job” part was vulgar and unnecessary.
(regardless of who you are talking about).
Comment by kenoshaMarge | 2008-03-19 17:37:57 |
yellowdogpinhead,
Why would you say such a thing? Do you think for one moment that the people on this blog think your kind of rhetoric is cute or funny or acceptable? Save that kind of misogynist crap for the Boyz Blogs where you obviously belong.
Comment by leslie | 2008-03-19 16:45:53 |
Last night I caught KOlbermann (whom I never watch any more) saying that while Obama was making this beautiful and inspirational “bringing us together” speech, his campaign was putting out the message that Hillary Clinton was “willing to do anything - even destroy the Democratic Party, to win the nomination”.
Isn’t he aware of the IRONY?
or am I wrong?
Because I thought this statement would make his head explode and it didn’t.
Comment by Mel | 2008-03-19 16:59:10 |
Anyone wonder why Obama isn’t releasing his papers and schedules?
Could it be that would expose his meetings with Rezko and Ayers along with the times he did attend Trinity?
Why is it just a passing by in the media?
Why is it that Republicans can see the truth in Obama’s speech and reports haven’t been able to yet?
Why isn’t the media exploring how many children have been exposed to the vile preachings of Wright and how many of them who were subject to them 30 years ago are today, as adult citizens?
Is the mainstream media so desperate for ratings, they are keeping Obama alive to not lose the months of coverage till the Dem convention?
Are all of Obama’s friends and acquantances now in hiding, so as to not be thrown under the buss when another uncovering of Obama arises?
Why is Wright so silent all of a sudden?
Comment by Andy | 2008-03-19 17:03:14 |
Obama: “Victim” or just a cunning politician?
“In some ways, this controversy has actually shaken me up a little bit and gotten me back into remembering that the odds of me getting elected have always been lower than some of the other conventional candidates,” the Illinois senator told CNN’s Anderson Cooper in an exclusive one-on-one interview.
This guy has no idea of how to play in the big leagues. Is he really this innocent? If so, they as Gringrich said: can you imagine this guy in the same room with Amadinajab ?
Or is he being incredibly cunning and looking for pity and absolution from the media and the people?
Either way: no way to be a US President
Comment by Andy | 2008-03-19 17:04:48 |
Forgot the link to the whole thing…
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/19/obama-on-controversy/
Comment by Mel | 2008-03-19 17:33:51 |
Sen. Barack Obama to Anderson Cooper today:
“Well, you– you know– one of the things I said early on in this campaign was if– if I was just running the textbook campaign– doing the conventional thing, I probably wasn’t gonna win because Senator Clinton was gonna be much more capable of doing that than I would be. We had tremendous success– and I think we were starting to get a little comfortable and conventional right before Texas and Ohio. And, you know, in– in some ways this– this controversy has actually shaken me up a little bit and gotten me back into remembering that– the odds of me getting elected have always been– lower than– than some of the other conventional candidates…”
“…And if I bring something to this conversation, it’s gonna be because I do what I did yesterday, which is hopefully open up new conversation about a new direction of the country. As a practical matter in terms of– how this plays out demographically, I can’t tell you. I don’t know. ”
Senator Obama, you smug arrogant lieing excuse of a human being! You can’t fight fairly against someone with experience and solutions, so you falsify and lie, Ohio and Texas you were only being conventional (as you call it) because you got caught in lies!
Yesterday, you derail your own exposure by injecting race again into the campaign! Parallel your campaign, Bill Clinton calls your Iraq stances as “Fairy Tales” so you sic your wife on him invoking the race card! Then you get caught in associations with a vile and disgusting Preacher and you bait the country yesterday with the race card!
Your invoking the race card has been your tool of advantage throughout the campaign, but this time, you figure it will silence people, it won’t, it will smack right back at you because you and your wife, Harvard and Princeton scholarship grads both have no right to invoke such a dirty tactic!
The worst kind of Racist’s are the ones who use Race to invoke uprisings for their own advancement and you have proven you are a worse racist than your Preacher is and even worse than any KKK member or skin head is, because you use it for self gain while hiding behind it, they at least openly admit it!
How many more poor slum tenants are going to freeze for the next few weeks while you advance your own self interests Obama?
Comment by Andy | 2008-03-19 17:47:17 |
Telepathy; I was just outraged about the same a few minutes ago ( the post above yours).
Amazing, isn’t it…. .
Comment by suskin | 2008-03-19 17:43:19 |
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, there is a long road ahead and more battles to come. In the meantime there is work to do. Regardless of how well Hillary does here-on-out it is likely that she will still be behind in the pledge delegate count come nomination time. While we all know the caucuses were a farce, and thus the delegate count is not a reflection of the “will of the people,” but with Pelosi disingenuously arguing that the super delegates should follow the pledge delegates, it is it is vital that we expose the caucus abuses and thereby undermine the legitimacy of the pledge delegate count, at least from caucus states.
With that in mind, a group of us are getting together to try to investigate the caucus abuses and expose them as the farce that they were.
We ask that anyone who has information regarding caucus irregularities, contact us at the below email addresses. We will keep your names and personal information confidential if you request us to do so. For any of you pesky Obama supporters, we would like to hear your complaints too, but be warned, we will forward any abusive emails to your friend Nancy Pelosi so she knows what good company she is keeping.
For Iowa: IowaCaucusIrregularities@gmail.com
For Washington: WashingtonCaucusIrregularities@gmail.com
For all other caucuses: DemocraticCaucusIrregularities@gmail.com
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Many voting for Clinton to boost GOP
Seek to prolong bitter battle
By Scott Helman, Globe Staff | March 17, 2008
For a party that loves to hate the Clintons, Republican voters have cast an awful lot of ballots lately for Senator Hillary Clinton: About 100,000 GOP loyalists voted for her in Ohio, 119,000 in Texas, and about 38,000 in Mississippi, exit polls show.
A sudden change of heart? Hardly.
Since Senator John McCain effectively sewed up the GOP nomination last month, Republicans have begun participating in Democratic primaries specifically to vote for Clinton, a tactic that some voters and local Republican activists think will help their party in November. With every delegate important in the tight Democratic race, this trend could help shape the outcome if it continues in the remaining Democratic primaries open to all voters.
Spurred by conservative talk radio, GOP voters who say they would never back Clinton in a general election are voting for her now for strategic reasons: Some want to prolong her bitter nomination battle with Barack Obama, others believe she would be easier to beat than Obama in the fall, or they simply want to register objections to Obama.
“It’s as simple as, I don’t think McCain can beat Obama if Obama is the Democratic choice,” said Kyle Britt, 49, a Republican-leaning independent from Huntsville, Texas, who voted for Clinton in the March 4 primary. “I do believe Hillary can mobilize enough [anti-Clinton] people to keep her out of office.”Britt, who works in financial services, said he is certain he will vote for McCain in November.
About 1,100 miles north, in Granville, Ohio, Ben Rader, a 66-year-old retired entrepreneur, said he voted for Clinton in Ohio’s primary to further confuse the Democratic race. “I’m pretty much tired of the Clintons, and to see her squirm for three or four months with Obama beating her up, it’s great, it’s wonderful,” he said. “It broke my heart, but I had to.”
Local Republican activists say stories like these abound in Texas, Ohio, and Mississippi, the three states where the recent surge in Republicans voting for Clinton was evident.Until Texas and Ohio voted on March 4, Obama was receiving far more support than Clinton from GOP voters, many of whom have said in interviews that they were willing to buck their party because they like the Illinois senator. In eight Democratic contests in January and February where detailed exit polling data were available on Republicans, Obama received, on average, about 57 percent of voters who identified themselves as Republicans. Clinton received, on average, a quarter of the Republican votes cast in those races.
But as February gave way to March, the dynamics shifted in both parties’ contests: McCain ran away with the Republican race, and Obama, after posting 10 straight victories following Super Tuesday, was poised to run away with the Democratic race. That is when Republicans swung into action.
Conservative radio giant Rush Limbaugh said on Fox News on Feb. 29 that he was urging conservatives to cross over and vote for Clinton, their bête noire nonpareil, “if they can stomach it.”
“I want our party to win. I want the Democrats to lose,” Limbaugh said. “They’re in the midst of tearing themselves apart right now. It is fascinating to watch. And it’s all going to stop if Hillary loses.”He added, “I know it’s a difficult thing to do to vote for a Clinton, but it will sustain this soap opera, and it’s something I think we need.”
Limbaugh’s exhortations seemed to work. In Ohio and Texas on March 4, Republicans comprised 9 percent of the Democratic primary electorate, more than twice the average GOP share of the turnout in the earlier contests where exit polling was conducted. Clinton ran about even with Obama among Republicans in both states, a far more favorable showing among GOP voters than in the early races.
I’ve debunked that before. States where the voting was split or races after the McCain nomination was sewn up show Obama getting the vote spike.
Registered Dems still back Clinton on the whole.
The entire campaign prior to Texas, Republicans were crossing over and voting AGAINST Hillary Clinton. Much of it was organized by the Obama camp. They also had a program called Democrat For A Day, where Republicans register for one day to vote against Hillary, and then revert back.
So by the time Texas rolls around, Obama is the frontrunner and the wurm turned, as far as cross-over voting.
We also saw in Mississippi some evidence of voting along racial lines. In order to consolidate the black vote, Obama went in and started using Malcolm X language to black voters: “they’re trying to hoodwink ya; they’re trying to bamboozle ya.” That had the effect of driving white voters away from Obama.
Obama’s new kind of politics:
Upper 48 states- USA
lower 2 states- Michigan and Florida.
Superdelegates are paying attention right now, you can be sure of that. It’s rough but Obama is electoral suicide. You can bet that GOP 527’s are already gearing up for Jeremiah Wright’s greatest hits 24/7.
Nominating Hillary is our only shot to spare the country a third Bush term. Obama’s numbers have taken a hit . . . and a Rasmussen done a couple days after that Wright story broke said that 66% of the country knew about it. 56% nationwide said they would be less
likely to vote for Obama, and 44% within the Democratic Party. I know it’s only one poll,
but those are some rough numbers.
Hey, Sean Hannity and those guys are gonna keep pounding on Obama. The Republicans figure they can’t lose no matter how it comes out. They will either get a badly damaged Barack Obama who would be lucky to draw 40% nationally - or if Hillary get it, they figure it will be a mess no matter how it occurs.
The best case scenario would be Obama being weakened to the point that he steps down. His people would accept that better. I watched his interview with Anderson Cooper tonite - and he made a statement that sounded like he was resigned to losing. He shrugged his shoulders and said, “I always thought the odds were pretty long of an unconventional candidate like me winning.” So maybe there is hope.
Expediency is never a strategic factor.
The Rev. was a plausible expedient prop.
The SUSA polls have got to be pretty sobering to the superdelegates. The down ballot implications of an Obama collapse could be devastating to Democrats. It’s been my experience that politicians are often most concerned about their own local electoral prospects than that of the Presidential candidates. 26% in Kentucky is not good news for them.
I’m 100% behind Hillary because…of Bill!! He’ is to be treasured, he has one of the finest political minds since FDR! Wake up Democrats, he’s our best asset to fight the GOP, and you want to throw him/her under the bus! You have fallen for Obama/ right-wing propaganda! I want these gifted people on my side. Udercutting the Clintons only serves the competition! Stop trashing Bill Clinton!
I just want to take the time right now and thank Larry, Susan, DCMediaGirl, Taylor Marsh, Anglachel, MyDD, Jerelyn, Big Tent Dem, and all the rest that have made this primary season bearable for truly progressive people like myself.
I cannot see how we could have a President Obama any time soon and I fear that the Dems by picking him will be handing four more grueling years to the Repugs.
I do think Hillary will prevail. If so, I feel she will win in November.
But don’t trust my word. Heck, I thought Gore won!
[...] A Great Reckoning (by dcmediagirl at No Quarter) [I]t was only a matter of time before Obama and his followers were forced to face the fact that all the hysteria, fainting and fairy dust in the world couldn’t conceal the fact that an untested, unvetted candidate would at some point have to face The Great Reckoning, an unpleasant inevitability that all serious political contenders have to endure. And when that Great Reckoning comes, it’s best to be prepared, not forced out of the magical bubble to face the cruel world unarmed and unfocused… [I]t’s inevitable that now Obama is in trouble precisely because he and his supporters started to believe their own press releases and hype. [...]