Open Thread (with Reviews + a Request)

Brit Hume took on Obama’s inconsistencies on Iraq today.

Hey Guys, there is a great post at the end of the previous thread from “suskin”.

In case you missed it he/she writes:

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, there is a long road ahead and more battles to come. In the meantime there is work to do. Regardless of how well Hillary does here-on-out it is likely that she will still be behind in the pledge delegate count come nomination time. While we all know the caucuses were a farce, and thus the delegate count is not a reflection of the “will of the people,” but with Pelosi disingenuously arguing that the super delegates should follow the pledge delegates, it is it is vital that we expose the caucus abuses and thereby undermine the legitimacy of the pledge delegate count, at least from caucus states.

With that in mind, a group of us are getting together to try to investigate the caucus abuses and expose them as the farce that they were.

We ask that anyone who has information regarding caucus irregularities, contact us at the below email addresses. We will keep your names and personal information confidential if you request us to do so. For any of you pesky Obama supporters, we would like to hear your complaints too, but be warned, we will forward any abusive emails to your friend Nancy Pelosi so she knows what good company she is keeping.

For Iowa: IowaCaucusIrregularities@gmail.com
For Washington: WashingtonCaucusIrregularities@gmail.com
For all other caucuses: DemocraticCaucusIrregularities@gmail.com

Thank you

Why is it that today Obama’s Campaign is not thriving at the possible revote in Michigan? One comment made on Clinton’s page is because his Republican voters went home to roost and voted Republican, Wow Obama, what do you think they are going to do in November?

If this wasn’t such a serious matter of who next sits in the Oval office, it would be comical!

Since it is so serious, yesterdays speech Obama left out discrimination of Latino’s, Asians, but more importantly, women, why, because doing so would have invoke focus back on Hillary?

Who feels Obama invoked the race card this time himself soley for self serving reasons, as he sent his wife to do in NH over the “fairy tale” statements on Iraq and a surrogate in SC with the 4 page memo on the MLK statements by Hillary?

I just email Speaker Pelosi again. This time I explicitly tried to make the case of why Sen. Obama has officially become “unelectable”.

(I feel a bit like Don Quijote and the wind mills with pelosi; but can’t hurt).

How can McCain’s gaffe with coaching from Lieberman, NOT be the primary story on this blog?! Assuming you truly are trying the get a Democrat in office in Nov?

I used to come to this site quite a bit during the Plamegate mess, and I thought the content was insightful and important. Then I burned out on blogs. Now I come back and see all of this Obama hatred. What the heck happened?! As someone who tries to be impartial, it sure is a turn-off.

I am glad Gerson mentioned the HIV conspiracy theory of Wright. That is by far more offensive than the other hate speech.

I have been wondering as to why Hannity is pounding Obama now versus waiting for the Genderal Election. It could be simply ratings and preparing the right wing masses for the feast comming.

Now it shall be interesting to see if the Super Delegats do not see this comming.

Just as the senior senators had to go sit with Nixon and tell him it is over, I wonder who the DNC will send. My candidate would be Donna Brazille and Jessie Jackson Jr. Also they should have to make the unity speach at the conventions.

Taylor Marsh has a link to a request to call ABC for its shameful story tonight
about “the blue dress” . Here it is:

Call Brian Ross of ABC News at 212-456-7612 and tell him politely what you think of him bringing up “the blue dress” now

http://www.correntewire.com/call_brian_ross_of_abc_news_at_212_456_7612_and_tell_him_politely_what_you_think_of_him_bringing_up_the_blue_dress_now

This is amazing…ABC must be under a lot of pressure from DNC to resurrect trash to throw to HRC. This is story aims at nothing but to try to publicly
humiliate her. Shame on Brian Ross….this is really really low low low….

Please call !!

By JAKE TAPPER
April 11, 2007

Find the full article here:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3031317&page=1

RIP Arthur C Clark.

I’m mostly familiar with his short stories, so I’m a poor eulogist.

Anyone else? I’d welcome a proper one.

Thanks in advance.

Watching 360 and an interview with Obama… he a very obtuse person…”I want the delegates to be seated and will go along with what ever the DUNC (spellcheck spelling for DNC) decides.
Apparently the folks in Michigan are frustrated with Obama not being co-operative. Essentially he SAYS he wants them seated if it is to his advantage.

Hillary today in Michigan was asking Obama to make sure everyone in Florida and Michigan gets to vote. He responds by saying Hillary, last year, said these “votes won’t count”.

As if what he said about Florida voters “they don’t matter” was the same thing. Hillary was pointing out the importance of people getting to vote in those states, while after losing the Florida primaries, Obama stated the votes “did not matter” .

Only words do that apparently. Tony told me so.

Hillary’s Nasty Pastorate
by Barbara Ehrenreich
Posted March 19, 2008 | 01:11 PM (EST)

There’s a reason why Hillary Clinton has remained relatively silent during the flap over intemperate remarks by Barack Obama’s former pastor, Jeremiah Wright. When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she’s a lot more vulnerable than Obama.You can find all about it in a widely under-read article in the September 2007 issue of Mother Jones, in which Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet reported that “through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the “Fellowship,” aka The Family. But it won’t be a secret much longer. Jeff Sharlet’s shocking exposé, The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power will be published in May.
Sean Hannity has called Obama’s church a “cult,” but that term applies far more aptly to Clinton’s “Family,” which is organized into “cells” — their term — and operates sex-segregated group homes for young people in northern Virginia. In 2002, writer Jeff Sharlet joined the Family’s home for young men, foreswearing sex, drugs, and alcohol, and participating in endless discussions of Jesus and power. He wasn’t undercover; he used his own name and admitted to being a writer. But he wasn’t completely out of danger either. When he went outdoors one night to make a cell phone call, he was followed. He still gets calls from Family associates asking him to meet them in diners — alone.

The Family’s most visible activity is its blandly innocuous National Prayer Breakfast, held every February in Washington. But almost all its real work goes on behind the scenes — knitting together international networks of rightwing leaders, most of them ostensibly Christian. In the 1940s, The Family reached out to former and not-so-former Nazis, and its fascination with that exemplary leader, Adolph Hitler, has continued, along with ties to a whole bestiary of murderous thugs. As Sharlet reported in Harper’s in 2003:

During the 1960s the Family forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most anti-Communist (and dictatorial) elements within Africa’s postcolonial leadership. The Brazilian dictator General Costa e Silva, with Family support, was overseeing regular fellowship groups for Latin American leaders, while, in Indonesia, General Suharto (whose tally of several hundred thousand “Communists” killed marks him as one of the century’s most murderous dictators) was presiding over a group of fifty Indonesian legislators. During the Reagan Administration the Family helped build friendships between the U.S. government and men such as Salvadoran general Carlos Eugenios Vides Casanova, convicted by a Florida jury of the torture of thousands, and Honduran general Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, himself an evangelical minister, who was linked to both the CIA and death squads before his own demise.
At the heart of the Family’s American branch is a collection of powerful rightwing politicos, who include, or have included, Sam Brownback, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, James Inhofe, and Rick Santorum. They get to use the Family’s spacious estate on the Potomac, the Cedars, which is maintained by young men in Family group homes and where meals are served by the Family’s young women’s group. And, at the Family’s frequent prayer gatherings, they get powerful jolts of spiritual refreshment, tailored to the already-powerful.

Clinton fell in with the Family in 1993, when she joined a Bible study group composed of wives of conservative leaders like Jack Kemp and James Baker. When she ascended to the senate, she was promoted to what Sharlet calls the Family’s “most elite cell,” the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast, which included, until his downfall, Virginia’s notoriously racist Senator George Allen. This has not been a casual connection for Clinton. She has written of Doug Coe, the Family’s publicity-averse leader, that he is “a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God.”

Furthermore, the Family takes credit for some of Clinton’s rightward legislative tendencies, including her support for a law guaranteeing “religious freedom” in the workplace, such as for pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control prescriptions and police officers who refuse to guard abortion clinics.
What drew Clinton into the sinister heart of the international right? Maybe it was just a phase in her tormented search for identity, marked by ever-changing hairstyles and names: Hillary Rodham, Mrs. Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and now Hillary Clinton. She reached out to many potential spiritual mentors during her White House days, including new age guru Marianne Williamson and the liberal Rabbi Michael Lerner. But it was the Family association that stuck.

Sharlet generously attributes Clinton’s involvement to the underappreciated depth of her religiosity, but he himself struggles to define the Family’s theological underpinnings. The Family avoids the word Christian but worship Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the “meek.” They believe that, in mass societies, it’s only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God’s “dominion” on earth. Insofar as the Family has a consistent philosophy, it’s all about power — cultivating it, building it, and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or “cells.” “We work with power where we can,” Doug Coe has said, and “build new power where we can’t.”

Obama has given a beautiful speech on race and his affiliation with the Trinity Unity Church of Christ. Now it’s up to Clinton to explain — or, better yet, renounce — her longstanding connection with the fascist-leaning Family.

FROM LARRY JOHNSON:

THIS IS INSANITY. HILLARY DOES NOT CALL ANY OF THESE PEOPLE, AUNT OR UNCLE. HILLARY DOES NOT APPOINT THEM A MEMBER OF HER STEERING COMMITTEE. HILLLARY DOES NOT ALLOW RACIST ORGANIZATIONS, LIKE THE NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY ON HER CAMPAIGN SITE. JESUS CHRIST!! ARE ALL OBAMATRONS THIS THICK HEADED AND THIS INCAPABLE OF REASONING?

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H Clinton also promised to bring Jesus back to the Capitol…

There is a new article by William R. Polk on Juan Cole’s Informed Comments about the possible war with Iran. Fascinating reading, begging for analysis by knowledgeable actors in intel circles.
You know, the kind of things No Quarter was famous for and expert in: Larry, Ray McGovern, Phil Giraldi, Pat Lang,…, would have a field day on these developments, and I would love to read them here!
Alas, NQ’s pathological obsession with Evil Obama and Saint Clinton precludes such a thing. One has to go elsewhere for serene and serious discussion of security matters.
Conceivably, just as both Democratic candidates WILL stay in Iraq for years, it is the given that BOTH Obama AND Clinton will go along with a war against Iran that makes it difficult to discuss these things here!!?

On MSNBC this morning, John Ridley (Esquire magazine), answered the question: “How do you think Obama’s speech went over with everyone?” His answer: “I think it played well with intellectuals. I think they got it. I don’t know if everyone else did.”

Sad Obama isn’t an intellectual. If he was he wouldn’t have had to give that speech and Rezko and Wright wouldn’t be in his life.

[...] a Smart Man, Obama Sure Doesn’t Know a Lot of Things (by BDBlue at Corrente Wire, thanks to No Quarter) Despite being the editor of the Harvard Law Review and a former law professor, he doesn’t know [...]

White House Taps Tech Entrepreneur For Cyber Defense Post

The presidential directive expanded the intelligence community’s role in monitoring Internet traffic to protect against a rising number of attacks on federal agencies’ computer systems. According to the sources, the center will be charged with gathering cyber attack and vulnerability information from a wide range of federal agencies, including the FBI, the National Security Agency and the Defense Department. Beckstrom will report directly to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903125.html

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