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		<title>By: Hillary&#8217;s Voice &#187; From today&#8217;s Media News mailing 4/15/08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-190541</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary&#8217;s Voice &#187; From today&#8217;s Media News mailing 4/15/08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] skin makes him uniquely qualified for president and even reach out to the moderate Islam world.” (Click here for a link to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Make Them Accountable / Media</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-190433</link>
		<dc:creator>Make Them Accountable / Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] skin makes him uniquely qualified for president and even reach out to the moderate Islam world.” (Click here for a link to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Vosburg</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164520</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Vosburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Flea, the above quote-bungling makes it obvious that your piece had its genesis not in the video of Kerry, but in an opinion piece on the web which sat you down and patiently explained to you what you should be offended by in this wholly unremarkable interview.

Thus armed with your talking points and vicarious indignation, you ran right over to type it up for the readers here, essentially repeating the opinion found elesewhere on the web.

Not plagiarism per se, but, well-- let's just call it intellectual laziness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Flea, the above quote-bungling makes it obvious that your piece had its genesis not in the video of Kerry, but in an opinion piece on the web which sat you down and patiently explained to you what you should be offended by in this wholly unremarkable interview.</p>
<p>Thus armed with your talking points and vicarious indignation, you ran right over to type it up for the readers here, essentially repeating the opinion found elesewhere on the web.</p>
<p>Not plagiarism per se, but, well&#8211; let&#8217;s just call it intellectual laziness.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Vosburg</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164495</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Vosburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't try to redirect attention to another quotation, insect. For the second time, here's the problem:

You led your piece with the following:

&lt;i&gt;In an interview with the New Bedford Standard Times Senator Kerry stated that:

"the color of Obama’s skin makes him uniquely qualified for president and even reach out to the moderate Islam world "&lt;/i&gt;

This statement does not appear in the video, because &lt;i&gt;Kerry didn't say it&lt;/i&gt;. You're lying. Okay so far?

So who did say it? As I pointed out above, the statement was actually made by NBC pundit Mike Melori, in his commments, i.e., his interpretation of Kerry’s comments.

So you've fucked up twice. First by claiming that Kerry said this, and second by failing to identify the source from which you cribbed the statement.

Incidentally, Mike Memoli's piece, which I read last night, has been disappeared from the web, presumably because not even MSNBC could stomach the sheer stupidity of it.

Since you disingenouously fail to provide a link to the place from which you stole your talking points, I'll simply guess that you took it from &lt;a href="http://rightvoices.com/2008/03/20/oh-no-he-didnt-kerry-says-kerry-said-the-color-of-obamas-skin-makes-him-uniquely-qualified-for-president-and-even-reach-out-to-the-moderate-islam-world" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, which sort of seems like the breathless kind of site you'd enjoy.

As you'll note, the false attribution is embedded in the headline with quotation marks, a sloppy bit of journalism which implies that it is actually something Kerry said. And let's face it, you're just dumbly desperate enough to lap it right up.

In my comment above, I said "My bet, coward, is that you won’t cop to an error." Boy, did I ever peg you right. Glad to see my instincts are still solid in this regard.

Like I said, a liar and a coward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t try to redirect attention to another quotation, insect. For the second time, here&#8217;s the problem:</p>
<p>You led your piece with the following:</p>
<p><i>In an interview with the New Bedford Standard Times Senator Kerry stated that:</p>
<p>&#8220;the color of Obama’s skin makes him uniquely qualified for president and even reach out to the moderate Islam world &#8220;</i></p>
<p>This statement does not appear in the video, because <i>Kerry didn&#8217;t say it</i>. You&#8217;re lying. Okay so far?</p>
<p>So who did say it? As I pointed out above, the statement was actually made by NBC pundit Mike Melori, in his commments, i.e., his interpretation of Kerry’s comments.</p>
<p>So you&#8217;ve fucked up twice. First by claiming that Kerry said this, and second by failing to identify the source from which you cribbed the statement.</p>
<p>Incidentally, Mike Memoli&#8217;s piece, which I read last night, has been disappeared from the web, presumably because not even MSNBC could stomach the sheer stupidity of it.</p>
<p>Since you disingenouously fail to provide a link to the place from which you stole your talking points, I&#8217;ll simply guess that you took it from <a href="http://rightvoices.com/2008/03/20/oh-no-he-didnt-kerry-says-kerry-said-the-color-of-obamas-skin-makes-him-uniquely-qualified-for-president-and-even-reach-out-to-the-moderate-islam-world" rel="nofollow">here</a>, which sort of seems like the breathless kind of site you&#8217;d enjoy.</p>
<p>As you&#8217;ll note, the false attribution is embedded in the headline with quotation marks, a sloppy bit of journalism which implies that it is actually something Kerry said. And let&#8217;s face it, you&#8217;re just dumbly desperate enough to lap it right up.</p>
<p>In my comment above, I said &#8220;My bet, coward, is that you won’t cop to an error.&#8221; Boy, did I ever peg you right. Glad to see my instincts are still solid in this regard.</p>
<p>Like I said, a liar and a coward.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164439</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Thanks for the laugh.&lt;/em&gt;

Sadly it is on you. Walking on rice paper is not your strong point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Thanks for the laugh.</em></p>
<p>Sadly it is on you. Walking on rice paper is not your strong point.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary&#8217;s Voice &#187; From today&#8217;s Media News mailing 3/21/08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164435</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary&#8217;s Voice &#187; From today&#8217;s Media News mailing 3/21/08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Open Mouth, Insert Foot (by Fleaflicker at No Quarter) Yesterday former Democratic nominee and Obama supporter John Kerry confirmed everything that Geraldine Ferraro said. Not only that, he took it a few steps further, In an interview with the New Bedford Standard Times Senator Kerry stated that: “the color of Obama’s skin makes him uniquely qualified for president and even reach out to the moderate Islam world”… But Kerry took it even further. According to him electing Barack Obama would somehow redeem the United States… Apparently Senator Kerry seems to think that electing Barack Obama would not only help us get rid of our awful white guilt about our slavery past. JUST as Shelby Steele said.  Oh, and does Kerry now have to leave the campaign for mentioning skin color?  What he’s saying isn’t much different from what Geraldine Ferraro said.  But what both of them have said is vastly different from what Rev. Wright said. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Open Mouth, Insert Foot (by Fleaflicker at No Quarter) Yesterday former Democratic nominee and Obama supporter John Kerry confirmed everything that Geraldine Ferraro said. Not only that, he took it a few steps further, In an interview with the New Bedford Standard Times Senator Kerry stated that: “the color of Obama’s skin makes him uniquely qualified for president and even reach out to the moderate Islam world”… But Kerry took it even further. According to him electing Barack Obama would somehow redeem the United States… Apparently Senator Kerry seems to think that electing Barack Obama would not only help us get rid of our awful white guilt about our slavery past. JUST as Shelby Steele said.  Oh, and does Kerry now have to leave the campaign for mentioning skin color?  What he’s saying isn’t much different from what Geraldine Ferraro said.  But what both of them have said is vastly different from what Rev. Wright said. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: madamab</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164423</link>
		<dc:creator>madamab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree re: public financing. The incredible wealth of many of these politicians, especially Senators, can really insulate them from the daily concerns of non-rich Americans. Yet, who else can afford to campaign for Senate but a very wealthy person these days?

One of the reasons that the media elite punditry always hated the Clintons was because they were not rich, and actually exemplified the American Dream that "anyone can be President." Nothing plutocrats hate more than people who are Not Their Sort.

Hillary and Bill are rich now, but they haven't forgotten their roots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree re: public financing. The incredible wealth of many of these politicians, especially Senators, can really insulate them from the daily concerns of non-rich Americans. Yet, who else can afford to campaign for Senate but a very wealthy person these days?</p>
<p>One of the reasons that the media elite punditry always hated the Clintons was because they were not rich, and actually exemplified the American Dream that &#8220;anyone can be President.&#8221; Nothing plutocrats hate more than people who are Not Their Sort.</p>
<p>Hillary and Bill are rich now, but they haven&#8217;t forgotten their roots.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164418</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, your reference to "Grasshooper" and "bottom feeders" and anger in general, is a poor way to get your point across. If you are of the opinion that the writer is factually off base then then say so and site your reference...with out being an asshole. 

And frankly, the immature comment, "And let’s face it: It’s obvious that for you and Flea, thinking is work."  is the reflective of your inabilty to communicate effectivly.
 Insulting people is what you have done for years and if thats the what helps you with your pretzel logic , what ever.
The only thing you have in common with Master Po is your blindness, beyond that nada. In short growup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, your reference to &#8220;Grasshooper&#8221; and &#8220;bottom feeders&#8221; and anger in general, is a poor way to get your point across. If you are of the opinion that the writer is factually off base then then say so and site your reference&#8230;with out being an asshole. </p>
<p>And frankly, the immature comment, &#8220;And let’s face it: It’s obvious that for you and Flea, thinking is work.&#8221;  is the reflective of your inabilty to communicate effectivly.<br />
 Insulting people is what you have done for years and if thats the what helps you with your pretzel logic , what ever.<br />
The only thing you have in common with Master Po is your blindness, beyond that nada. In short growup.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164413</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody needs to calm down.

Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vASmAfrBSs&amp;eurl=http://www.mitbbs.com/article/USANews/31060004_3.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody needs to calm down.</p>
<p>Here is the video:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vASmAfrBSs&amp;eurl=http://www.mitbbs.com/article/USANews/31060004_3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vASmAfrBSs&amp;eurl=http://www.mitbbs.com/article/USANews/31060004_3.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fleaflicker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164411</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleaflicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris.... now now now... please calm down. No need to call me a coward. What is it that you suppose I am running from. Or whom?

The "Update" is something the site administrators added while I was out last night. My original post had a link to the youtube video. Apparently while I was out the embed for the video became available and that was what was added.

What IS true is that Kerry was saying on the video just exactly what is quoted in my piece. I quote it again below so that you can look it over and put 2+2 together. Not sure why so many Obama followers can't connect the dots. I learned how to do that before grade school.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Asked by a reporter what gave Obama the credibility to do so, Kerry said, &lt;b&gt;“Because he’s African American. Because he’s a black man,&lt;/b&gt; who has come from a place of oppression and repression through the years in our own country.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Does this make you feel better Chris? Still think I am a coward? I even bolded it so you wouldn't have to rack your tiny brain figuring it all out. 

So grab your blankie, put your thumb back in your mouth and close your eyes. Everything will be alright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris&#8230;. now now now&#8230; please calm down. No need to call me a coward. What is it that you suppose I am running from. Or whom?</p>
<p>The &#8220;Update&#8221; is something the site administrators added while I was out last night. My original post had a link to the youtube video. Apparently while I was out the embed for the video became available and that was what was added.</p>
<p>What IS true is that Kerry was saying on the video just exactly what is quoted in my piece. I quote it again below so that you can look it over and put 2+2 together. Not sure why so many Obama followers can&#8217;t connect the dots. I learned how to do that before grade school.</p>
<blockquote><p>Asked by a reporter what gave Obama the credibility to do so, Kerry said, <b>“Because he’s African American. Because he’s a black man,</b> who has come from a place of oppression and repression through the years in our own country.</p></blockquote>
<p>Does this make you feel better Chris? Still think I am a coward? I even bolded it so you wouldn&#8217;t have to rack your tiny brain figuring it all out. </p>
<p>So grab your blankie, put your thumb back in your mouth and close your eyes. Everything will be alright.</p>
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		<title>By: Fleaflicker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164403</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleaflicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not exactly an endorsement there Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not exactly an endorsement there Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: Fleaflicker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164399</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleaflicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;RFLMAO!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>RFLMAO!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Fleaflicker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164398</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleaflicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that and I am very thankful for the support. LOVED the sarcasm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that and I am very thankful for the support. LOVED the sarcasm.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Vosburg</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164395</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Vosburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teak takes a trip down memory lane:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Chris Vosburg said,

August 2, 2004 at 22:29 

Why does this man have a woman’s beaver sprouting from his scalp?

I’ll be damned, so that’s what a merkin looks like&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh man, I remember that. We were talking about zany wing nut &lt;a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images2/voxday.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;Vox Day's haircut&lt;/a&gt;, and in response to someone's "beaver on his scalp" comment, I tossed in the observation that he appeared to be wearing a merkin-- a pubic wig-- on his head.

Ah, good times, good times. Thanks for the laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teak takes a trip down memory lane:</p>
<blockquote><p>Chris Vosburg said,</p>
<p>August 2, 2004 at 22:29 </p>
<p>Why does this man have a woman’s beaver sprouting from his scalp?</p>
<p>I’ll be damned, so that’s what a merkin looks like</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh man, I remember that. We were talking about zany wing nut <a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images2/voxday.jpg" rel="nofollow">Vox Day&#8217;s haircut</a>, and in response to someone&#8217;s &#8220;beaver on his scalp&#8221; comment, I tossed in the observation that he appeared to be wearing a merkin&#8211; a pubic wig&#8211; on his head.</p>
<p>Ah, good times, good times. Thanks for the laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Fleaflicker</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164392</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleaflicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Vosburg</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/20/open-mouth-insert-foot/#comment-164390</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Vosburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teakwoodkite wonders: &lt;i&gt;Chris Vosburg what’s the need for the temper tantrum? &lt;/i&gt;

Well, it's like this, Teak. Fleadiggler based an entire piece on a lie-- the contention that John Kerry said "the color of Obama’s skin makes him uniquely qualified for president and even reach out to the moderate Islam world".

John Kerry didn't say that. It's a lie. Strictly speaking, it's slander. Okay so far?

Is it wrong to lie about and slander any political candidate or politician, or just the ones you support?

You must decide, grasshopper.

If you agree with Flea that a lie in service of a cause you support is okay, then you are in some rich company: Rush Limbaugh. Sean Hannity. Ann Coulter. And of course, George W Bush. These are the people you and Flea share your moral outlook with, if not your political views.

Thing is, Obama's qualifications for the office are worth discussing, as is his judgment, but you're not discussing that. Instead, you're copying talking points from right wing nutblogs like newsmax and townhall.

Here, let me give you an example of what an informed discussion might look like: Obama has, as foreign policy advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski.

Is the architect of the "Afghan Trap"-- which brought together the elements of what was later to become Al Qaeda-- an appropriate choice for dealing with an inflamed middle east? It could be argued that Zbig created this situation, so why the hell is Obama taking advice from this guy?

Good questions. But you and Fleatickler will never trouble your heads with them, because then you'd have to find out what the Afghan Trap was, and read all sorts of boring history, and learn facts, and think hard about human behavior, instead of repeating a bunch of National Enquirer grade gossip about Obama's Pastor.

And let's face it: It's obvious that for you and Flea, thinking is &lt;i&gt;work&lt;/i&gt;.

That goes for the rest of ya too. What this blog has become in the past coupla months is disgusting beyond words, and I care far too deeply about the hard work put into it by Larry and Susan-- who seem to have put their consciences on holiday lately-- to see it fucked up by a nursery school full of retarded children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teakwoodkite wonders: <i>Chris Vosburg what’s the need for the temper tantrum? </i></p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s like this, Teak. Fleadiggler based an entire piece on a lie&#8211; the contention that John Kerry said &#8220;the color of Obama’s skin makes him uniquely qualified for president and even reach out to the moderate Islam world&#8221;.</p>
<p>John Kerry didn&#8217;t say that. It&#8217;s a lie. Strictly speaking, it&#8217;s slander. Okay so far?</p>
<p>Is it wrong to lie about and slander any political candidate or politician, or just the ones you support?</p>
<p>You must decide, grasshopper.</p>
<p>If you agree with Flea that a lie in service of a cause you support is okay, then you are in some rich company: Rush Limbaugh. Sean Hannity. Ann Coulter. And of course, George W Bush. These are the people you and Flea share your moral outlook with, if not your political views.</p>
<p>Thing is, Obama&#8217;s qualifications for the office are worth discussing, as is his judgment, but you&#8217;re not discussing that. Instead, you&#8217;re copying talking points from right wing nutblogs like newsmax and townhall.</p>
<p>Here, let me give you an example of what an informed discussion might look like: Obama has, as foreign policy advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski.</p>
<p>Is the architect of the &#8220;Afghan Trap&#8221;&#8211; which brought together the elements of what was later to become Al Qaeda&#8211; an appropriate choice for dealing with an inflamed middle east? It could be argued that Zbig created this situation, so why the hell is Obama taking advice from this guy?</p>
<p>Good questions. But you and Fleatickler will never trouble your heads with them, because then you&#8217;d have to find out what the Afghan Trap was, and read all sorts of boring history, and learn facts, and think hard about human behavior, instead of repeating a bunch of National Enquirer grade gossip about Obama&#8217;s Pastor.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s face it: It&#8217;s obvious that for you and Flea, thinking is <i>work</i>.</p>
<p>That goes for the rest of ya too. What this blog has become in the past coupla months is disgusting beyond words, and I care far too deeply about the hard work put into it by Larry and Susan&#8211; who seem to have put their consciences on holiday lately&#8211; to see it fucked up by a nursery school full of retarded children.</p>
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		<title>By: Fleaflicker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleaflicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wish this had been brought out sooner before Geraldine was pilloried by Obama and reviled by the press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wish this had been brought out sooner before Geraldine was pilloried by Obama and reviled by the press.</p>
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		<title>By: Fleaflicker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleaflicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That seems to be the sub-text of their message. It isn't quite subliminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That seems to be the sub-text of their message. It isn&#8217;t quite subliminal.</p>
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		<title>By: apishapa</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHat is it Obama calls his hundreds of thousands of Republican supporters? Did he call them Obamacans in a speech where he pointed out his vast Republican support?

Didn't he run ads in Nevada begging Republicans to register as Democrats for a day? Didn't he urge Republicans in Iowa to crossover and vote for him? Hasn't he been just this week blocking the re-vote in Michigan because Republican primary voters would not be allowed to vote? Hasn't Obama been running ads nonstop in Pennsylvania urging Republicans to register as Democrats fo rhte primary?

It is Obama who has been courting Republicans for a year. Not Clinton. She does not brag about herr Republican support. Republicans hate Hillary, they always have and she knows it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHat is it Obama calls his hundreds of thousands of Republican supporters? Did he call them Obamacans in a speech where he pointed out his vast Republican support?</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t he run ads in Nevada begging Republicans to register as Democrats for a day? Didn&#8217;t he urge Republicans in Iowa to crossover and vote for him? Hasn&#8217;t he been just this week blocking the re-vote in Michigan because Republican primary voters would not be allowed to vote? Hasn&#8217;t Obama been running ads nonstop in Pennsylvania urging Republicans to register as Democrats fo rhte primary?</p>
<p>It is Obama who has been courting Republicans for a year. Not Clinton. She does not brag about herr Republican support. Republicans hate Hillary, they always have and she knows it.</p>
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		<title>By: carwinrpc</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toward 'Anglos'?  More to the point, what's the attitude toward Westerners?  

My own feelings, based on having lived in Turkey for several years, is that most Americans would do well to have the sort of tolerant attitude toward Muslims that has characterized Muslim attitudes toward the West.  

Are there extremists, only a fool wouldn't know that there are.  But once again, the story is complicated and therefore no one wants to take the time to understand, especially when we can just nurse our outrage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toward &#8216;Anglos&#8217;?  More to the point, what&#8217;s the attitude toward Westerners?  </p>
<p>My own feelings, based on having lived in Turkey for several years, is that most Americans would do well to have the sort of tolerant attitude toward Muslims that has characterized Muslim attitudes toward the West.  </p>
<p>Are there extremists, only a fool wouldn&#8217;t know that there are.  But once again, the story is complicated and therefore no one wants to take the time to understand, especially when we can just nurse our outrage.</p>
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