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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Advisers: Less Progressive than Advertised?</title>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/23/obamas-advisers-less-progressive-than-advertised/#comment-166836</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Does any think Obama or his staff “vetted” McPeak’s positions? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Vetted his positions?

I can't figure out why they hired a moron.

Did they think his rank was testimony to his intellect?

Remember the old joke from MASH?

Col Potter, speaking to Radar, says "Knew a man with an IQ smaller than his shoe size. Pentagon didn't know what to do with him, so they made him a General."

Or something of the sort...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does any think Obama or his staff “vetted” McPeak’s positions? </p></blockquote>
<p>Vetted his positions?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t figure out why they hired a moron.</p>
<p>Did they think his rank was testimony to his intellect?</p>
<p>Remember the old joke from MASH?</p>
<p>Col Potter, speaking to Radar, says &#8220;Knew a man with an IQ smaller than his shoe size. Pentagon didn&#8217;t know what to do with him, so they made him a General.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or something of the sort&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only remove mercenaries from Iraq, Hillary has stated that she will stop the government's use of paid mercenaries such as Blackwater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only remove mercenaries from Iraq, Hillary has stated that she will stop the government&#8217;s use of paid mercenaries such as Blackwater.</p>
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		<title>By: Marjorie</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/23/obamas-advisers-less-progressive-than-advertised/#comment-166813</link>
		<dc:creator>Marjorie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Blackwater, el al. BO makes no committment to have the US paid mercenaries leave Iraq. Hillary does.
The US Constitution forbids use of paid mercenaries. They aren't just doing laundry, you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Blackwater, el al. BO makes no committment to have the US paid mercenaries leave Iraq. Hillary does.<br />
The US Constitution forbids use of paid mercenaries. They aren&#8217;t just doing laundry, you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Fleaflicker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fleaflicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My question is this:  If McPeak said all this, isn’t it further evidence that Obama has surrounded himself with advisers whose views are wildly opposed to those of the progressives who are pushing for his nomination and whose methods are far from consistent with the ‘New Politics’ for which they idealistically long? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, the views are opposed to the "progressives" pushing for Obama. But not of Obama himself. These "progressives" have made Obama into a ready made fantasy candidate. Any time he or one of his advisors says something that remotely disturbs this fantasy they explain it away. They are so caught up in the myth of Obama that they cannot see the reality of who the guy really is. And they are willing to suspend their ability to make a rational decision because they "believe" in his "message" of "hope." But as all of us know that haven't been bamboozled, Obama is a lightweight on experience that has extraordinary skills of manipulation and deception. He taps into what people think he is and uses it to advantage himself. He mentioned this well over a year ago, even bragged about it saying that people had always projected things on to him or about him most of his life. The danger is that he has found a way to use this to his ultimate advantage. I wish I could source the information but I am not sure where it originally came from. But I do remember reading about it on Taylor Marsh. And she sounded the alarm a long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My question is this:  If McPeak said all this, isn’t it further evidence that Obama has surrounded himself with advisers whose views are wildly opposed to those of the progressives who are pushing for his nomination and whose methods are far from consistent with the ‘New Politics’ for which they idealistically long? </p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, the views are opposed to the &#8220;progressives&#8221; pushing for Obama. But not of Obama himself. These &#8220;progressives&#8221; have made Obama into a ready made fantasy candidate. Any time he or one of his advisors says something that remotely disturbs this fantasy they explain it away. They are so caught up in the myth of Obama that they cannot see the reality of who the guy really is. And they are willing to suspend their ability to make a rational decision because they &#8220;believe&#8221; in his &#8220;message&#8221; of &#8220;hope.&#8221; But as all of us know that haven&#8217;t been bamboozled, Obama is a lightweight on experience that has extraordinary skills of manipulation and deception. He taps into what people think he is and uses it to advantage himself. He mentioned this well over a year ago, even bragged about it saying that people had always projected things on to him or about him most of his life. The danger is that he has found a way to use this to his ultimate advantage. I wish I could source the information but I am not sure where it originally came from. But I do remember reading about it on Taylor Marsh. And she sounded the alarm a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/23/obamas-advisers-less-progressive-than-advertised/#comment-166732</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, I asked this to be a front page item by pasting a good bit of the intro and what it actually linked to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, I asked this to be a front page item by pasting a good bit of the intro and what it actually linked to.</p>
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		<title>By: jawbone</title>
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		<dc:creator>jawbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/02/17/10/07/heh-29/

She posts about Black Agenda Report's look at Obama's advisers on almost all levels.

I also found weeks ago a blog which looked at the libertarian/conservative bent of many of Obama's economic and healthcare advisers (Chicago school very much in evidence). Does anyone recall such a post? 

I'm too tired right now to look. Will try tomorrow.

What change? What will he do? What are his objectives? Just get the power and figure it out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://susiemadrak.com/2008/02/17/10/07/heh-29/" rel="nofollow">http://susiemadrak.com/2008/02/17/10/07/heh-29/</a></p>
<p>She posts about Black Agenda Report&#8217;s look at Obama&#8217;s advisers on almost all levels.</p>
<p>I also found weeks ago a blog which looked at the libertarian/conservative bent of many of Obama&#8217;s economic and healthcare advisers (Chicago school very much in evidence). Does anyone recall such a post? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m too tired right now to look. Will try tomorrow.</p>
<p>What change? What will he do? What are his objectives? Just get the power and figure it out?</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/23/obamas-advisers-less-progressive-than-advertised/#comment-166608</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does any think Obama or his staff "vetted" McPeak's positions? 

Naw. Drip...Drip...Drip..

It's like the Pink Panther in the basement looking for the lightbulb as the source of the Drip. 

Dmozel, Interesting link on Emil Jones and Obama.

Medium rare on the steak ok?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does any think Obama or his staff &#8220;vetted&#8221; McPeak&#8217;s positions? </p>
<p>Naw. Drip&#8230;Drip&#8230;Drip..</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the Pink Panther in the basement looking for the lightbulb as the source of the Drip. </p>
<p>Dmozel, Interesting link on Emil Jones and Obama.</p>
<p>Medium rare on the steak ok?</p>
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		<title>By: Shainzona</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/23/obamas-advisers-less-progressive-than-advertised/#comment-166607</link>
		<dc:creator>Shainzona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is an embarassment.  His advisors are from grade school and have NO experience in the real world.

Dear God, it will be like Bush...all over again.

God Bless America...please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is an embarassment.  His advisors are from grade school and have NO experience in the real world.</p>
<p>Dear God, it will be like Bush&#8230;all over again.</p>
<p>God Bless America&#8230;please!</p>
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		<title>By: D. Cupples</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/23/obamas-advisers-less-progressive-than-advertised/#comment-166603</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Cupples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In &lt;a href="http://bucknakedpolitics.typepad.com/buck_naked_politics/2008/01/economy-krugman.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;January&lt;/a&gt;, Paul Krugman compared the candidates' economic plans and found that Obama was LESS progressive than Hillary and Edwards. 

Krugman also found one of Obama's advisers not so progressive.  Here's what Krugman said, in part:

"The Obama campaign’s initial response to the latest wave of bad economic news was, I’m sorry to say, disreputable: Mr. Obama’s top economic adviser claimed that the long-term tax-cut plan the candidate announced months ago is just what we need to keep the slump from 'morphing into a drastic decline in consumer spending.'  

"Hmm: claiming that the candidate is all-seeing, and that a tax cut originally proposed for other reasons is also a recession-fighting measure — doesn’t that sound familiar?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="http://bucknakedpolitics.typepad.com/buck_naked_politics/2008/01/economy-krugman.html" rel="nofollow">January</a>, Paul Krugman compared the candidates&#8217; economic plans and found that Obama was LESS progressive than Hillary and Edwards. </p>
<p>Krugman also found one of Obama&#8217;s advisers not so progressive.  Here&#8217;s what Krugman said, in part:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Obama campaign’s initial response to the latest wave of bad economic news was, I’m sorry to say, disreputable: Mr. Obama’s top economic adviser claimed that the long-term tax-cut plan the candidate announced months ago is just what we need to keep the slump from &#8216;morphing into a drastic decline in consumer spending.&#8217;  </p>
<p>&#8220;Hmm: claiming that the candidate is all-seeing, and that a tax cut originally proposed for other reasons is also a recession-fighting measure — doesn’t that sound familiar?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baubles...Bangles..Bight and Shiny Beads..

Thats one way to build a COALITION..

Its called BarackaBarter..Those Tokens Pay for the BUS RIDE..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baubles&#8230;Bangles..Bight and Shiny Beads..</p>
<p>Thats one way to build a COALITION..</p>
<p>Its called BarackaBarter..Those Tokens Pay for the BUS RIDE..</p>
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		<title>By: Damozel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damozel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't actually think he is a progressive at all. 

I think he is much more of a centrist than Hillary, in my opinion---look at how he attacked her health care plan.

He has substantial support from certain conservatives which in itself ought to make progressive Dems wary---only they don't seem to notice.

http://www.slate.com//blogs/blogs/convictions/archive/2008/03/23/endorsing-obama.aspx

I just don't understand why progressives got behind him.  Or rather, I do, but I'm shocked that they are so credulous.

Speaking of embarrassments, Jeralyn at Talk Left just published a piece asking whether Obama paid Emil Jones for his political sponsorship in earmarks.  

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/23/224059/069</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t actually think he is a progressive at all. </p>
<p>I think he is much more of a centrist than Hillary, in my opinion&#8212;look at how he attacked her health care plan.</p>
<p>He has substantial support from certain conservatives which in itself ought to make progressive Dems wary&#8212;only they don&#8217;t seem to notice.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com//blogs/blogs/convictions/archive/2008/03/23/endorsing-obama.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com//blogs/blogs/convictions/archive/2008/03/23/endorsing-obama.aspx</a></p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand why progressives got behind him.  Or rather, I do, but I&#8217;m shocked that they are so credulous.</p>
<p>Speaking of embarrassments, Jeralyn at Talk Left just published a piece asking whether Obama paid Emil Jones for his political sponsorship in earmarks.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/23/224059/069" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/23/224059/069</a></p>
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		<title>By: A.Citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/23/obamas-advisers-less-progressive-than-advertised/#comment-166573</link>
		<dc:creator>A.Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 05:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Magic One ranks 41st in the Senate according to Progressive Punch's 'The Chips are Down' voting analysis.

Clinton ranks 24th.

These Senators are ranked more progressive than the Magic One:

Webb, Feinstein and Ben Nelson.

The idea that O Magical O-man is a 'progressive'  would be laughable if so many, including &lt;a href="http://takeaction.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/censorship-the-committee-of-three-and-a-warning-from-the-past/" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Committee of Three&lt;/a&gt;, did not 'believe' it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Magic One ranks 41st in the Senate according to Progressive Punch&#8217;s &#8216;The Chips are Down&#8217; voting analysis.</p>
<p>Clinton ranks 24th.</p>
<p>These Senators are ranked more progressive than the Magic One:</p>
<p>Webb, Feinstein and Ben Nelson.</p>
<p>The idea that O Magical O-man is a &#8216;progressive&#8217;  would be laughable if so many, including <a href="http://takeaction.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/censorship-the-committee-of-three-and-a-warning-from-the-past/" rel="nofollow">The Committee of Three</a>, did not &#8216;believe&#8217; it.</p>
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		<title>By: unclekracker</title>
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		<dc:creator>unclekracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 04:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There definitely is something going on here. Take a look at what I found (and didn't find) on the Obama campaign web site: 
http://tinyurl.com/yuvzkb


Either he isn't as progressive as he says, or he's trying to not look it. Anyway you slice it, there's something smarmy going on here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There definitely is something going on here. Take a look at what I found (and didn&#8217;t find) on the Obama campaign web site:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yuvzkb" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yuvzkb</a></p>
<p>Either he isn&#8217;t as progressive as he says, or he&#8217;s trying to not look it. Anyway you slice it, there&#8217;s something smarmy going on here.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 04:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could passport-gate be an intentional distraction?
Is it possible that John Brennan knew about the breaches even though they hadn't been reported to the State Dept yet?
It sure got rid of "granny-gate" and "granny explanation-gate" pretty nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could passport-gate be an intentional distraction?<br />
Is it possible that John Brennan knew about the breaches even though they hadn&#8217;t been reported to the State Dept yet?<br />
It sure got rid of &#8220;granny-gate&#8221; and &#8220;granny explanation-gate&#8221; pretty nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: A.Citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/23/obamas-advisers-less-progressive-than-advertised/#comment-166561</link>
		<dc:creator>A.Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 04:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops don't look now but The Magic Man appears to be running sans clothes or at least.....

&lt;a href="http://takeaction.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/very-good-brunch-discussion-today/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Without coattails.....&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops don&#8217;t look now but The Magic Man appears to be running sans clothes or at least&#8230;..</p>
<p><a href="http://takeaction.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/very-good-brunch-discussion-today/" rel="nofollow">Without coattails&#8230;..</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/23/obamas-advisers-less-progressive-than-advertised/#comment-166560</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 04:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dmozel..

You People are Good..Well Done..

I'll Bet there are some GRAYS out there who are taking lessons..

See..BIG EYE...This is the way Analysis is done..and the BOSS keeps the Door Open..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dmozel..</p>
<p>You People are Good..Well Done..</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll Bet there are some GRAYS out there who are taking lessons..</p>
<p>See..BIG EYE&#8230;This is the way Analysis is done..and the BOSS keeps the Door Open..</p>
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