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	<title>Comments on: Fear and Loathing in Michigan and Florida</title>
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		<title>By: Hillary AllTheWay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hillary AllTheWay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 05:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To see the DNC destroying itself is disheartening.  I have always been a Democrat and can't believe what I hear and see everyday.  The Republicans seem to be getting what they wanted.  The chance to control our Country again for many years to come.  The Independent Party may actually start growing.  I sure would hate to be a Democrat in the next election, if those seats aren't fully awarded.  Is there a mole in the DNC???


In the beginning of this Race for Democrat Nominee, I was on the fence.  Thanks to Hillary’s drive/ambition, inner strength, and her agenda’s for this Country, I now have faith Hillary can put this Country back on track and Unite the Democrat Party Once again.  I am so inspired I am writing letters weekly to editors of different papers, trying to convince voters Hillary is the Proper Choice for the Democratic Nominee.  I feel so strong, that if she doesn’t get the nomination I will change Parties and become an Independent voter next time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To see the DNC destroying itself is disheartening.  I have always been a Democrat and can&#8217;t believe what I hear and see everyday.  The Republicans seem to be getting what they wanted.  The chance to control our Country again for many years to come.  The Independent Party may actually start growing.  I sure would hate to be a Democrat in the next election, if those seats aren&#8217;t fully awarded.  Is there a mole in the DNC???</p>
<p>In the beginning of this Race for Democrat Nominee, I was on the fence.  Thanks to Hillary’s drive/ambition, inner strength, and her agenda’s for this Country, I now have faith Hillary can put this Country back on track and Unite the Democrat Party Once again.  I am so inspired I am writing letters weekly to editors of different papers, trying to convince voters Hillary is the Proper Choice for the Democratic Nominee.  I feel so strong, that if she doesn’t get the nomination I will change Parties and become an Independent voter next time around.</p>
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		<title>By: Five Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Five Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flyarm: what you write is fascinating and illuminating.  I have been following the Florida vote scam since 2000, reading the Black Box voting website.

What is the motivation for  Howard Dean and Donna Brazile, and Kerry, and Dashle to be doing this?  Is it Clinton Derangement Syndrome?  Or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flyarm: what you write is fascinating and illuminating.  I have been following the Florida vote scam since 2000, reading the Black Box voting website.</p>
<p>What is the motivation for  Howard Dean and Donna Brazile, and Kerry, and Dashle to be doing this?  Is it Clinton Derangement Syndrome?  Or what?</p>
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		<title>By: fred heidrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred heidrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>id like to see  thousands of voter from florida  and michigan desend on the convention and cause a littel ruckus .[let us  vote let us vote] that might get a littel national news atention. coming to see more and more  [obamas a jerk]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>id like to see  thousands of voter from florida  and michigan desend on the convention and cause a littel ruckus .[let us  vote let us vote] that might get a littel national news atention. coming to see more and more  [obamas a jerk]</p>
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		<title>By: BloggerBoyz</title>
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		<dc:creator>BloggerBoyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"bad enough that he turned a politically divided state government into a one-party state government with every single state-wide office holder being a Democrat and Democrats holding the largest margins in BOTH houses of the state legislature in years!"

He was a horrible governor, but MA already had one party state government with every single state wide officer being a Democrat and while the margins in the state legislature changed slightly in the Democrats' favor, it was already like 178-22 and just went to 180-20 or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;bad enough that he turned a politically divided state government into a one-party state government with every single state-wide office holder being a Democrat and Democrats holding the largest margins in BOTH houses of the state legislature in years!&#8221;</p>
<p>He was a horrible governor, but MA already had one party state government with every single state wide officer being a Democrat and while the margins in the state legislature changed slightly in the Democrats&#8217; favor, it was already like 178-22 and just went to 180-20 or something.</p>
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		<title>By: flyarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>flyarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO VALERIE, Hi fellow Floridian!!

WE ARE NOT ALONE..and I know some big DNC Fla supporters are demanding their money back from the DNC..and i just found this little piece of info you might find interesting..seems the little college kiddies for Obama and the Dem's for a day..aren't putting money into the DNC coffers!

from the new Kos- Exiles web site..
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/monday-last-day-to-register-in-pa/
 
What if you were planning to throw a party and nobody paid? That is dilemma laid out in Money Troubles in Denver at the NYTimes. Howard Dean is having trouble coming up with half of the money for a downpayment. (LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!) Ahem, excuse me for that. Where was I? Oh, yeah, no one could have predicted that anyone would take a large swing state, slam a harsh penalty on it, take another large swing state, slam *it* with another harsh penalty and manage to piss off the voters enough that they want their money back for the convention. It was completely unforseen   .....
 
The comments, although peppered by the occasional cluelessly juvenile Obamaphile, seem to be uncharitable towards poor Howard. I know, I know, you’re heartbroken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO VALERIE, Hi fellow Floridian!!</p>
<p>WE ARE NOT ALONE..and I know some big DNC Fla supporters are demanding their money back from the DNC..and i just found this little piece of info you might find interesting..seems the little college kiddies for Obama and the Dem&#8217;s for a day..aren&#8217;t putting money into the DNC coffers!</p>
<p>from the new Kos- Exiles web site..<br />
<a href="http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/monday-last-day-to-register-in-pa/" rel="nofollow">http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/monday-last-day-to-register-in-pa/</a></p>
<p>What if you were planning to throw a party and nobody paid? That is dilemma laid out in Money Troubles in Denver at the NYTimes. Howard Dean is having trouble coming up with half of the money for a downpayment. (LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!) Ahem, excuse me for that. Where was I? Oh, yeah, no one could have predicted that anyone would take a large swing state, slam a harsh penalty on it, take another large swing state, slam *it* with another harsh penalty and manage to piss off the voters enough that they want their money back for the convention. It was completely unforseen   &#8230;..</p>
<p>The comments, although peppered by the occasional cluelessly juvenile Obamaphile, seem to be uncharitable towards poor Howard. I know, I know, you’re heartbroken.</p>
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		<title>By: apishapa</title>
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		<dc:creator>apishapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somewhere this morning (I think Riverdaughter), I read a post which quoted Kobama (I forgot what I'm supposed to call him) less than two months ago criticising Obama and Edwards for removing their names from the Michigan ballot and demanding that those delegates be seated because we all know we cannot afford to disenfranchise those big states. Funny how his tune has changed lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhere this morning (I think Riverdaughter), I read a post which quoted Kobama (I forgot what I&#8217;m supposed to call him) less than two months ago criticising Obama and Edwards for removing their names from the Michigan ballot and demanding that those delegates be seated because we all know we cannot afford to disenfranchise those big states. Funny how his tune has changed lately.</p>
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		<title>By: flyarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>flyarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to llilytoo,

more than one state had their votes stolen in 2004 ,  but only one got the attention of the masses, Fla also had alot of votes stolen with the DRE voting machines, tapes were thrown away in dumpsters , in Dem counties,, it is just that no one would come down here and fight for those votes.

ahem..like Kerry..you know.. the candidate who took our money in a fund to fight for our votes, of which he never did!! And had the nerve to dole that money out to candidates he has chosen with no voice of those who gave him the money ..yes Mr Big Shot with our money, wasn't he..or isn't he???????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to llilytoo,</p>
<p>more than one state had their votes stolen in 2004 ,  but only one got the attention of the masses, Fla also had alot of votes stolen with the DRE voting machines, tapes were thrown away in dumpsters , in Dem counties,, it is just that no one would come down here and fight for those votes.</p>
<p>ahem..like Kerry..you know.. the candidate who took our money in a fund to fight for our votes, of which he never did!! And had the nerve to dole that money out to candidates he has chosen with no voice of those who gave him the money ..yes Mr Big Shot with our money, wasn&#8217;t he..or isn&#8217;t he???????</p>
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		<title>By: flyarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>flyarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please let me add..there are so many Florida citizens  , and so many others nationwide,  who have fought to have our votes recorded and count ,most  have not done it for just themselves,many of us have done it for the senior citizens of our state, who followed the rules all their lives, they have paid their dues, they raised their kids and paid their bills and taxes, many have fought in uniform for this nation, they deserve to have their votes counted..it is their right, and they have more than earned it.

We have fought for votes for citizens, who have fought  and are fighting for this country.Many have lifelong scares, both physical and mental..

They have the right to vote, and have their votes counted.

We fought to get Voter verified paper ballots , so moms and dads who have lost their children in war or in the service of this country can have a voice.

And the soldiers in the the war zones can have a voice, and have it counted. And so their wives and some, their children, can have a voice, and have it counted.

If Howard Dean gave a shit about their voices and their votes, he would have stepped down before running as a surrogate of  Obama's campaign!

..and he would have told the Americian people the truth..about his so called "rules" ruling!

I hold Howard Dean accountable for stealing my vote, and the votes of those citizens of my state , who have the born right to vote, and have had a part of their democracy stolen from them.

now by both parties.

fly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please let me add..there are so many Florida citizens  , and so many others nationwide,  who have fought to have our votes recorded and count ,most  have not done it for just themselves,many of us have done it for the senior citizens of our state, who followed the rules all their lives, they have paid their dues, they raised their kids and paid their bills and taxes, many have fought in uniform for this nation, they deserve to have their votes counted..it is their right, and they have more than earned it.</p>
<p>We have fought for votes for citizens, who have fought  and are fighting for this country.Many have lifelong scares, both physical and mental..</p>
<p>They have the right to vote, and have their votes counted.</p>
<p>We fought to get Voter verified paper ballots , so moms and dads who have lost their children in war or in the service of this country can have a voice.</p>
<p>And the soldiers in the the war zones can have a voice, and have it counted. And so their wives and some, their children, can have a voice, and have it counted.</p>
<p>If Howard Dean gave a shit about their voices and their votes, he would have stepped down before running as a surrogate of  Obama&#8217;s campaign!</p>
<p>..and he would have told the Americian people the truth..about his so called &#8220;rules&#8221; ruling!</p>
<p>I hold Howard Dean accountable for stealing my vote, and the votes of those citizens of my state , who have the born right to vote, and have had a part of their democracy stolen from them.</p>
<p>now by both parties.</p>
<p>fly</p>
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		<title>By: flyarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>flyarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon, 
I have tried, and i have worked hard to bring about good change, I helped train and mentored one of the people who fought for the bill to Ban DRE's and VVPB in Fla.,I live in two states in 2006 In Nj i worked with candidates and townships that had votes flip from one town to another 45 minutes away in the Sequoia machines. I was in thw court day in and day out helping the Lawyer for the candidates that lost elections by 11, 18 and 20 votes respectfully, and yet 75 votes ended up in voting machines 45 minutes away.

I was there, i went to the wearhouse with the candidates and i inspected the insides of the machines, only because i had done the same here in Florida.

I worked with people from the league of Womens voters to the ACLU trying to educate them to what was going on with these machines.

I am illiterate of Computers..but i understand how they cheat with them, and have worked with people who have shown me, because i put myself and my money where my mouth is, when something does not seem right , i will fight and scratch and claw till i find out why it is not right.

But my expertise is in a different direction, I was a lifelong Flight crew for one of the airlines involved on 9/11..that is why i found and mentored people to take over in Fla with the voting issues. I was trying and could not do both issues any longer.

I was the first in my county to bring out the voting machine problem, I was out nightly speaking for 2 years before the election in 2004 at Dem Clubs in Fla and  all over the state.
I was told to shut up more  times than i could count, about the voting machines by the Florida dem party and the state and national party execs.
I spoke to the Kerry campaign over and over about the problems in Fla with the voting machines..and at the state convention and got eye rolls and was all but called a nut case.
Then those I helped train and teach about the machines were sent home crying many times by the Dem and Dem party execs who ridiculed them, as nuts!!

Then came 2006 and one county Sarasota had 18,000 votes dissapear, was i surprised no..but the State and national Party could no longer ignore the problem.

I was at that time not as active in the voting machine  issues, as the person i trained had taken over and was doing incredible things in the state.
Like i said i live in two states, but i always stayed informed to what was going on and i encouraged those doing the on the ground work.

But what is so troubling to me is Howard Dean, he knows what this bill was about, and yet each and every time he speaks about Fla he says , we broke the "rules"..he never ever brings up what the bill was that the rules got broken in..no he refuses to acknowledge  that with the Primary date change bill was the bill that made Flrodia the only state in the nation that banned DRE voting machines and mandated VVPB for the 2008 election.

Balloons and bands should have been played for the citizens of Florida by the DNC for what they accomplished, but instead we the people of Florida have been punished , for doing the right thing.

Citizens with no help from the FDP or the national DNC stopped our state from using voting machines that had no credibility and could be and were easily hacked. The citizens ( myself included) used our own money to stop these machines to make sure Florida citizens were not disenfranchised . Citizens worked day and night , with incredible diligence to make our votes count.

We had people who sat in cars all night watching the wearhouses where the machines were kept , trying to maintain the honesty of the authorities that were guarding our votes. I know because i know the moms and dads who sat in cars watching who entered and exited the wearhouses that housed the voting machines..i kept the notes of the cars that came and went late at night and entered the wearhouses.

These were people just like you and me , who cared enough to try to protect all of our votes.Who had cameras and who sat night after night making sure no one was getting at the machines, and when people did, we recorded it.And licence plates.

This was a state wide citizens  action to protect our votes.

And what did Howard Dean do..he disenfrachised us all.

I am done , seriously. I never thought i would be where i am today, but i have fought the Dem party to try to get them to fight for our votes, when they wouldn't , we the people did , and how have we been treated? We have been disenfranchised, and what has the media said or done about it..they have kept the myth of our votes alive..they are the liars along with Howard Dean and Donna Brazile, and Kerry, and Dashle.

They knew what the problems were and are.. nation wide, with these machines, and they have allowed it.They are part and parcel of the problem. They have bullied anyone who gets the steals exposed, they have indocrinated people within the parties in each state to put tin foil on anyone trying to make a difference.

I just wonder many days now..who really is working for us?

I am a democrat, but those who are running my party no longer represent who i am and what my democratic values are.

I was a volunteer for Edwards, i still believe in that man and his wife in every way, they are the democratic party that have the same values i have.

I never thought i would be supporting Hillary, but i am today, as i see very clearly what has been done. And it started the day the bill was signed in Tallahassee to make Florida the first state in the nation to ban DRE voting machines , and mandate VVPB..and Dean right away began pusing Caucus's on the state of Florida Democratic party. I see it as the day the Fix was in for the 2008 presidential elections, by Dean and company.

And i can no longer fight for a party that has left me and my values. That doesn't give a rats ass about your vote or mine , as long as they can win their agenda, what ever that is, and by what ever means nessessary.

I will not give them another day of my life.
I will not give them another dime of my money.

They are not worthy of it.

fly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon,<br />
I have tried, and i have worked hard to bring about good change, I helped train and mentored one of the people who fought for the bill to Ban DRE&#8217;s and VVPB in Fla.,I live in two states in 2006 In Nj i worked with candidates and townships that had votes flip from one town to another 45 minutes away in the Sequoia machines. I was in thw court day in and day out helping the Lawyer for the candidates that lost elections by 11, 18 and 20 votes respectfully, and yet 75 votes ended up in voting machines 45 minutes away.</p>
<p>I was there, i went to the wearhouse with the candidates and i inspected the insides of the machines, only because i had done the same here in Florida.</p>
<p>I worked with people from the league of Womens voters to the ACLU trying to educate them to what was going on with these machines.</p>
<p>I am illiterate of Computers..but i understand how they cheat with them, and have worked with people who have shown me, because i put myself and my money where my mouth is, when something does not seem right , i will fight and scratch and claw till i find out why it is not right.</p>
<p>But my expertise is in a different direction, I was a lifelong Flight crew for one of the airlines involved on 9/11..that is why i found and mentored people to take over in Fla with the voting issues. I was trying and could not do both issues any longer.</p>
<p>I was the first in my county to bring out the voting machine problem, I was out nightly speaking for 2 years before the election in 2004 at Dem Clubs in Fla and  all over the state.<br />
I was told to shut up more  times than i could count, about the voting machines by the Florida dem party and the state and national party execs.<br />
I spoke to the Kerry campaign over and over about the problems in Fla with the voting machines..and at the state convention and got eye rolls and was all but called a nut case.<br />
Then those I helped train and teach about the machines were sent home crying many times by the Dem and Dem party execs who ridiculed them, as nuts!!</p>
<p>Then came 2006 and one county Sarasota had 18,000 votes dissapear, was i surprised no..but the State and national Party could no longer ignore the problem.</p>
<p>I was at that time not as active in the voting machine  issues, as the person i trained had taken over and was doing incredible things in the state.<br />
Like i said i live in two states, but i always stayed informed to what was going on and i encouraged those doing the on the ground work.</p>
<p>But what is so troubling to me is Howard Dean, he knows what this bill was about, and yet each and every time he speaks about Fla he says , we broke the &#8220;rules&#8221;..he never ever brings up what the bill was that the rules got broken in..no he refuses to acknowledge  that with the Primary date change bill was the bill that made Flrodia the only state in the nation that banned DRE voting machines and mandated VVPB for the 2008 election.</p>
<p>Balloons and bands should have been played for the citizens of Florida by the DNC for what they accomplished, but instead we the people of Florida have been punished , for doing the right thing.</p>
<p>Citizens with no help from the FDP or the national DNC stopped our state from using voting machines that had no credibility and could be and were easily hacked. The citizens ( myself included) used our own money to stop these machines to make sure Florida citizens were not disenfranchised . Citizens worked day and night , with incredible diligence to make our votes count.</p>
<p>We had people who sat in cars all night watching the wearhouses where the machines were kept , trying to maintain the honesty of the authorities that were guarding our votes. I know because i know the moms and dads who sat in cars watching who entered and exited the wearhouses that housed the voting machines..i kept the notes of the cars that came and went late at night and entered the wearhouses.</p>
<p>These were people just like you and me , who cared enough to try to protect all of our votes.Who had cameras and who sat night after night making sure no one was getting at the machines, and when people did, we recorded it.And licence plates.</p>
<p>This was a state wide citizens  action to protect our votes.</p>
<p>And what did Howard Dean do..he disenfrachised us all.</p>
<p>I am done , seriously. I never thought i would be where i am today, but i have fought the Dem party to try to get them to fight for our votes, when they wouldn&#8217;t , we the people did , and how have we been treated? We have been disenfranchised, and what has the media said or done about it..they have kept the myth of our votes alive..they are the liars along with Howard Dean and Donna Brazile, and Kerry, and Dashle.</p>
<p>They knew what the problems were and are.. nation wide, with these machines, and they have allowed it.They are part and parcel of the problem. They have bullied anyone who gets the steals exposed, they have indocrinated people within the parties in each state to put tin foil on anyone trying to make a difference.</p>
<p>I just wonder many days now..who really is working for us?</p>
<p>I am a democrat, but those who are running my party no longer represent who i am and what my democratic values are.</p>
<p>I was a volunteer for Edwards, i still believe in that man and his wife in every way, they are the democratic party that have the same values i have.</p>
<p>I never thought i would be supporting Hillary, but i am today, as i see very clearly what has been done. And it started the day the bill was signed in Tallahassee to make Florida the first state in the nation to ban DRE voting machines , and mandate VVPB..and Dean right away began pusing Caucus&#8217;s on the state of Florida Democratic party. I see it as the day the Fix was in for the 2008 presidential elections, by Dean and company.</p>
<p>And i can no longer fight for a party that has left me and my values. That doesn&#8217;t give a rats ass about your vote or mine , as long as they can win their agenda, what ever that is, and by what ever means nessessary.</p>
<p>I will not give them another day of my life.<br />
I will not give them another dime of my money.</p>
<p>They are not worthy of it.</p>
<p>fly</p>
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		<title>By: Thurston</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/24/fear-and-loathing-in-michigan-and-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-167005</link>
		<dc:creator>Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I am confident I will get her votes if I’m the nominee. It’s not clear she would get the votes I got if she were the nominee.”   Senator Barack Obama

If that comment doesn't fuel Democrats to see that Obama is arrogant and destroying the party, well then, there is no hope but a destructive change. If MI/FL aren't counted than we know that the fix was already in after the 2004 infamous speech of Barack Hussein Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I am confident I will get her votes if I’m the nominee. It’s not clear she would get the votes I got if she were the nominee.”   Senator Barack Obama</p>
<p>If that comment doesn&#8217;t fuel Democrats to see that Obama is arrogant and destroying the party, well then, there is no hope but a destructive change. If MI/FL aren&#8217;t counted than we know that the fix was already in after the 2004 infamous speech of Barack Hussein Obama.</p>
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