In the beginning of this Race for Democrat Nominee, I was on the fence. Thanks to Hillary’s drive/ambition, inner strength, and her agenda’s for this Country, I now have faith Hillary can put this Country back on track and Unite the Democrat Party Once again. I am so inspired I am writing letters weekly to editors of different papers, trying to convince voters Hillary is the Proper Choice for the Democratic Nominee. I feel so strong, that if she doesn’t get the nomination I will change Parties and become an Independent voter next time around.

What is the motivation for Howard Dean and Donna Brazile, and Kerry, and Dashle to be doing this? Is it Clinton Derangement Syndrome? Or what?

He was a horrible governor, but MA already had one party state government with every single state wide officer being a Democrat and while the margins in the state legislature changed slightly in the Democrats’ favor, it was already like 178-22 and just went to 180-20 or something.

WE ARE NOT ALONE..and I know some big DNC Fla supporters are demanding their money back from the DNC..and i just found this little piece of info you might find interesting..seems the little college kiddies for Obama and the Dem’s for a day..aren’t putting money into the DNC coffers!

from the new Kos- Exiles web site..
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/monday-last-day-to-register-in-pa/

What if you were planning to throw a party and nobody paid? That is dilemma laid out in Money Troubles in Denver at the NYTimes. Howard Dean is having trouble coming up with half of the money for a downpayment. (LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!) Ahem, excuse me for that. Where was I? Oh, yeah, no one could have predicted that anyone would take a large swing state, slam a harsh penalty on it, take another large swing state, slam *it* with another harsh penalty and manage to piss off the voters enough that they want their money back for the convention. It was completely unforseen …..

The comments, although peppered by the occasional cluelessly juvenile Obamaphile, seem to be uncharitable towards poor Howard. I know, I know, you’re heartbroken.

more than one state had their votes stolen in 2004 , but only one got the attention of the masses, Fla also had alot of votes stolen with the DRE voting machines, tapes were thrown away in dumpsters , in Dem counties,, it is just that no one would come down here and fight for those votes.

ahem..like Kerry..you know.. the candidate who took our money in a fund to fight for our votes, of which he never did!! And had the nerve to dole that money out to candidates he has chosen with no voice of those who gave him the money ..yes Mr Big Shot with our money, wasn’t he..or isn’t he???????

We have fought for votes for citizens, who have fought and are fighting for this country.Many have lifelong scares, both physical and mental..

They have the right to vote, and have their votes counted.

We fought to get Voter verified paper ballots , so moms and dads who have lost their children in war or in the service of this country can have a voice.

And the soldiers in the the war zones can have a voice, and have it counted. And so their wives and some, their children, can have a voice, and have it counted.

If Howard Dean gave a shit about their voices and their votes, he would have stepped down before running as a surrogate of Obama’s campaign!

..and he would have told the Americian people the truth..about his so called “rules” ruling!

I hold Howard Dean accountable for stealing my vote, and the votes of those citizens of my state , who have the born right to vote, and have had a part of their democracy stolen from them.

now by both parties.

fly

I was there, i went to the wearhouse with the candidates and i inspected the insides of the machines, only because i had done the same here in Florida.

I worked with people from the league of Womens voters to the ACLU trying to educate them to what was going on with these machines.

I am illiterate of Computers..but i understand how they cheat with them, and have worked with people who have shown me, because i put myself and my money where my mouth is, when something does not seem right , i will fight and scratch and claw till i find out why it is not right.

But my expertise is in a different direction, I was a lifelong Flight crew for one of the airlines involved on 9/11..that is why i found and mentored people to take over in Fla with the voting issues. I was trying and could not do both issues any longer.

I was the first in my county to bring out the voting machine problem, I was out nightly speaking for 2 years before the election in 2004 at Dem Clubs in Fla and all over the state.
I was told to shut up more times than i could count, about the voting machines by the Florida dem party and the state and national party execs.
I spoke to the Kerry campaign over and over about the problems in Fla with the voting machines..and at the state convention and got eye rolls and was all but called a nut case.
Then those I helped train and teach about the machines were sent home crying many times by the Dem and Dem party execs who ridiculed them, as nuts!!

Then came 2006 and one county Sarasota had 18,000 votes dissapear, was i surprised no..but the State and national Party could no longer ignore the problem.

I was at that time not as active in the voting machine issues, as the person i trained had taken over and was doing incredible things in the state.
Like i said i live in two states, but i always stayed informed to what was going on and i encouraged those doing the on the ground work.

But what is so troubling to me is Howard Dean, he knows what this bill was about, and yet each and every time he speaks about Fla he says , we broke the “rules”..he never ever brings up what the bill was that the rules got broken in..no he refuses to acknowledge that with the Primary date change bill was the bill that made Flrodia the only state in the nation that banned DRE voting machines and mandated VVPB for the 2008 election.

Balloons and bands should have been played for the citizens of Florida by the DNC for what they accomplished, but instead we the people of Florida have been punished , for doing the right thing.

Citizens with no help from the FDP or the national DNC stopped our state from using voting machines that had no credibility and could be and were easily hacked. The citizens ( myself included) used our own money to stop these machines to make sure Florida citizens were not disenfranchised . Citizens worked day and night , with incredible diligence to make our votes count.

We had people who sat in cars all night watching the wearhouses where the machines were kept , trying to maintain the honesty of the authorities that were guarding our votes. I know because i know the moms and dads who sat in cars watching who entered and exited the wearhouses that housed the voting machines..i kept the notes of the cars that came and went late at night and entered the wearhouses.

These were people just like you and me , who cared enough to try to protect all of our votes.Who had cameras and who sat night after night making sure no one was getting at the machines, and when people did, we recorded it.And licence plates.

This was a state wide citizens action to protect our votes.

And what did Howard Dean do..he disenfrachised us all.

I am done , seriously. I never thought i would be where i am today, but i have fought the Dem party to try to get them to fight for our votes, when they wouldn’t , we the people did , and how have we been treated? We have been disenfranchised, and what has the media said or done about it..they have kept the myth of our votes alive..they are the liars along with Howard Dean and Donna Brazile, and Kerry, and Dashle.

They knew what the problems were and are.. nation wide, with these machines, and they have allowed it.They are part and parcel of the problem. They have bullied anyone who gets the steals exposed, they have indocrinated people within the parties in each state to put tin foil on anyone trying to make a difference.

I just wonder many days now..who really is working for us?

I am a democrat, but those who are running my party no longer represent who i am and what my democratic values are.

I was a volunteer for Edwards, i still believe in that man and his wife in every way, they are the democratic party that have the same values i have.

I never thought i would be supporting Hillary, but i am today, as i see very clearly what has been done. And it started the day the bill was signed in Tallahassee to make Florida the first state in the nation to ban DRE voting machines , and mandate VVPB..and Dean right away began pusing Caucus’s on the state of Florida Democratic party. I see it as the day the Fix was in for the 2008 presidential elections, by Dean and company.

And i can no longer fight for a party that has left me and my values. That doesn’t give a rats ass about your vote or mine , as long as they can win their agenda, what ever that is, and by what ever means nessessary.

I will not give them another day of my life.
I will not give them another dime of my money.

They are not worthy of it.

fly

If that comment doesn’t fuel Democrats to see that Obama is arrogant and destroying the party, well then, there is no hope but a destructive change. If MI/FL aren’t counted than we know that the fix was already in after the 2004 infamous speech of Barack Hussein Obama.

In 2000 and 2004 , the GOP suppressed the votes of just one state per election. The Dems elites are now suppressing the votes in TWO. This cannot stand. The DNC will see a blow back like you can’t believe

If the millions of voters from Michigan and Florida are ignored, that is disenfranchisement. Howard Dean is in a rough spot here, but he should never have said he would not seat the MI/FL delegates if their state parties moved up the elections. He is punishing the Democratic voters for what the Republican state legislatures did.

If I were Howard Dean, I would have pushed for real election reform right away. I would have tried to get a one-day Democratic national primary sometime in February or March of 2008, with instant runoff voting. The nominee would now be chosen by now, and we’d have none of this nonsense about votes not counting. We would also be done with Iowa and NH choosing our President. Two red states get to pick the Democratic nominee? WTF?

Anyway, HoDo needs to acknowledge that BHO will never go along with anything that would be fair to Hillary and honor the will of the voters of MI/FL. He just needs to seat the delegates as they are and state that he will reform the system completely by 2012. Problem solved.

“Many Obama voters ignored other Texas
primary races”

Yes. True. For many of those crossover voters who did not go down the ticket they may have been a Limbaugh crossover vote. And there were reports forn TX that day that many of them did not know how the primary system works. They believed they could go over to the Dem Primary, vote Hilalry, and then go vote for Repugs in the other elections. And they were pretty mad when they realized they could only vote for Dems on down the line.

So this story does not surprise me a bit.

The systen CAN and SHOULD be changed.

I totally agree with KenoshaMarge: “I believe we should have ALL closed primaries with a rotating system for which states go first. That would be fair and it would be Democrats that chose our nominees.”

It is a proven fact that more voters vote in primaries than in caucuses. (Somewhere in my files I have numbers, but don’t have time to look for them now. Sorry.) To my mind primaries are inherently more democratic.

Actually, I think it has been led by both.

About a month ago I started poking around the websites of the Florida Senate and Florida House. I am ashamed to say I am pretty ignorant on politics, but the events of the last 8 years have sparked me to get more involved and to speak up more - plus I am now semi-retired and have more time to research things! In any case I found the notorius CS/HB 0537, and low and behold, even to a lay-person as I am, things just didn’t look right. Why were all these other admendments concerned with the disposal of voting machines and going over to marksense ballots on the same bill as the Primary date change? As well as other issues, such as procedures for fining third party voter registration… Is this practice of attaching several amendments on to one bill commonplace? If, so, no wonder bad laws get passed! I have written Baynews 9, Tampa Tribune and some other papers, and have never heard a peep from anyone. I have all the names of the Representatives who either sponsored or co-sponsored the bill and I am in the process of writing to each and every one of them, also. I did write Howard Dean and told him that I won’t be supporting DNC either. I shared the point that the Primary date change was tagged on with the “paper trail” amendment, and if he was already aware of that fact then his decision to strip Florida of all their delegates was “callous and irresponsible”. This whole election has turned out to be such a sham. The news media is pathetic for the most part, and I just feel like they are the ones pretty much calling how this election will unfold . . .

Air America major league disappointment. Mark Green just another Obama shill as is Sam Sedar, Rachel Maddow and Rantin Rhandi Rhodes. Too bad really. They were supposed to be a liberal radio station. Instead they decided to be the Obama radio station and therefore have no credibility whatsoever.

Actually I heard the opposite.

McCain is supposedly enraged, angry all the time.

Would seem to indicate an irrational thought process.

http://austinbay.net/blog/?p=890

Want to see a slow and calculated blood bath in Nov, then piss off Fla and Michigan DNP, lay out your red carpet for the corination of your chosen one, hopefully it will banish the “fraud Obama” from politics once and for all!