“Just why is it do you suppose that Obama has strong ties to so many controversial figures? Isn’t he supposed to “represent” the new politics of hope? Isn’t he supposed to be the post partisan, post racial candidate? If so, then why is he so closely associated with so many people that are clearly partisan and vehemently racial? Do you think that this is just some odd coincidence? That somehow a random alignment of the stars caused all these people to intersect the life of Senator Obama for so many years? That he had nothing to do with cultivating these long standing enduring relationships?”

Do you have any idea how many relationships are formed between well-meaning, on-the-fence African Americans and radical African Americans every day in cities across America? There is always going to be something you have in common with individuals who might not have the same beliefs as you. I do agree that you can choose not to associate yourself with such people, just as I had: I once attended Meeks church and all I needed was one sermon to decide I would never return. But I am sure some white people here have had friends that they would classify as racist but would not harbor any of their friend’s views. Let the fear mongering end, fearful people.

Why you and the MSM don’t seem to notice (or mind) says more about Obama’s campaign than it does Clinton’s.

This man, James Meeks, is a Super Delagate for Obama. Just as Kwame Kilpatrick, the Mayor of Detroit is/was? – Don’t know the rules about Super Delegates and problems with the law.

So this discussion is necessary and warranted.

I agree there has to be a discussion. I had no idea of horrific it is for those poor high school kids. So sad, for so many to die before they really even had a chance to live.

Do you think the hate speech from those Black Separtist Chruches, in any way have influenced whats happening, or are there are other reasons for the increase in violence?

That link was shocking!

My God, this guy does not understand that most Americans are working 12 hour days, often two or three jobs just to put food on the table and gas in the fucking car. Or they looking for work 50 weeks a year. Does he not know that millions of Americans can’t buy food? Can’t take their kids to a doctor?Does he not know that millions of Americans have lost jobs since Bill Clinton left the White HOuse?

Is this his economic policy for the recession? Everyone can go on vacation?

Love the “trickle down hope.”

Sadly, the vibe after was simply a refusal to register the fact that Obama is biracial. One older, diehard Dem says they will vote for McCain if the nomination is stolen from Obama. Which is another very sneaky tactic his campaign has successfully maneuvered. So many blacks are so deeply intrenched in Obama’s candidacy it is NOT to be believed. They didn’t feel this way over Jesse Jackson’s run for the presidency and he also had the full support of the black community. Obama has engaged in the most Machiavellian kind of hustle and the methodology of his campaign will be discussed for decades.

To answer Nellie’s question, it’s for a therapist to discover why Obama has made his father into a hero, given that the reality is so tragic. And you’re right, alcoholism, abusiveness, cut across racial lines. All I know is that we’re at war in large part because of a president with unresolved conflicts with his own father. Do we really need another one working out his personal psychological baggage at the expense of the country’s well-being?

I’m of 2 minds about your question. One mind says that his hero worship is part of his devious plan to become POTUS by riding on the coattails of the AA experience and guilting white America into electing him. That deep down inside he harbors resentment toward his father, too. My other mind sees a man who clearly was troubled as a young boy with regard to his ethnic identity and holds his mother and her parents responsible for this and by association, the entire country. Either way, he just seems to me fucked up in his mindset. And given the fact that I had an opportunity to witness how biracial identity can play out in my friend’s family, all I’m saying is that Obama clearly has problems about it.

Here’s an interesting link to a story on yahoo.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080327/ap_on_re_us/chicago_student_deaths

It seems 20 Chicago students have been killed since Sept. Of course we’re talking urban blacks. I mean, this is Obama’s home state. What does he have to say about this? What is his position? And why won’t the press PIN HIM DOWN on questions like this? The AA community has had far too many gutless leaders who refuse confront the pathology in the black community from a stand point of accountability. Read the excellent post on Shelby Steele’s take. Dismissing him just because he’s a Conservative is wrong. I don’t agree with his politics, but he has some very accurate insights.

We’re not going to have a real discussion and make inroads on this racial queastion until both whites and blacks accept their pound of flesh on this issue.