I’m gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whiteys I see,
I’m gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whiteys I see,
If I kill all the whiteys I see,
Then whitey he won’t bother me,
I’m gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whiteys I see.

He is, without doubt, an insidious Republican shill. No liberal person should ever be taken in again by this creep after hearing that he was responsible for the release of the video that is now making life hell for Randi Rhodes.

Larry, your time is coming!

So to the parents of America
I am the damager aimed at little Erica
To attack her character
The ring leader of the circus of worthless pawns
Sent to lead the march right up to the steps of Congress
And piss on the lawns of the White House
To burn the casket and replace it with a parental advisory sticker
To spit liquor in the faces of this democracy of hipocracy
Fuck you Ms. Cheney
Fuck you Tipper Gore
Fuck you with the freeness of speech this divided states of embarrasment Will allow me to have
Fuck You!

–eminem, white america

That’s interesting, it would have helped if you’d used an actual quote from Otis, or an incident that could help the reader understand how Otis is relevant to your argument. You mention him in passing exactly once.

“able to Find ways to seek out His “ROOTS” and “BOND” with his Father and his fathers political Ideology and Activity in Kenya..”

What political ideology and activity in Kenya? His father was long dead, and Obama hardly knew him. Obama sought to help the poor in the streets of Chicago, and to connect with other African Americans.

“Look How Obama Played the Game ever since he got there..Look how He made a name for himself..Look how. He got elected..look how the competetion got..
“ELIMINATED”…Drive By Phone Calls..”

Um, what is a “drive by phone call?” What proven connection is there to Obama? What ‘competition’ got ‘eliminated’? Is there a real person, or any verifiable fact in this “scary black guy” narrative of yours?

““SawedOff” Or A of K (AK Assault Rifle”) jamming in a 30 round Clip and Killing Uncle Sam..( A White Person laying on a Slab with the American Flag drapped over him..and Ice Cube standing next to HIM. That MIND Set is what Pastor Wright seems to share..”

Um, show me where Wright advocates violence.

“He is Talking about The USKKK of A..and that 9/11 was a Payback..”

“Obama has not even come close to Fiercely denouncing the Hate Rants of the ICE CUBES out there”

Why should Obama be responsible for things rappers say? What the hell are you talking about? What relationship does Obama have with Ice Cube?

Wright was talking about 9/11 being a result of what is called, in the 9/11 Commission Report, “blowback.” “Blowback” is a standard part of this government’s analysis of the attack.

“Hillary Clinton was not President..during those pardons”

She can’t take credit for “experience” as first lady, but refuse to share in the responsibility of huge decisions that were made, if indeed she was
her husband’s “most trusted advisor.” The Clintons had intimate dealings with DOZENS of CONVICTED criminals, and then got them off (why else release these simebags, if the Clintons didn’t owe them something?). How does anything Obama has done remotely compare?

Why should Obama have to speak to or apologize for things rap artists say? Because he has a Kenyan father he’s responsible for American rap music?

But perhaps you can point me toward a candidate that has never, ever, had any working association with a scumbag?

and? Do I care? It was not so hard to suck up to Rezko or anyone else this piece of ivy encountered

Thanks for your calm thoughtful post.

Perhaps, someday, we can have an election about ideas and solutions, rather than fear, division, and diversion. I personally would like my Constitution back, for starters.

Check the odds in Vegas on getting it back?

I think Oama went to CHICAGO..(Talk about Gangster Land)..
and to this Church in Particular just so he could find a Group and Cause
that would help Obama be Able to Find ways to seek out His “ROOTS” and “BOND” with his Father and his fathers political Ideology and Activity in Kenya..

Look How Obama Played the Game ever since he got there..Look how He made a name for himself..Look how
He got elected..look how the competetion got..
“ELIMINATED”…Drive By Phone Calls..

You Really believe Obama and His friends are really a bunch of Social Working “HAPPY FACES”..taking baskets of food to the Needy..??

Obama has not even come close to beginning a real debate on Race issues..Or Fiercly denouncing Pastor Wright for His WRONG…….RACISTS ….RANTS..
and he should be ashamed to call himself a Minister
of the “GOSPEL” of Jesus ..or even of the Bible..or even of the Ten commandments..”LOVE YOUR NIEGHBOR”

Obama has not even come close to Fiercely denouncing the Hate Rants of the ICE CUBES out there…who talks about taking His “SawedOff” Or A of K (AK Assault Rifle”) jamming in a 30 round Clip and Killing Uncle Sam..( A White Person laying on a Slab with the American Flag drapped over him..and Ice Cube standing next to HIM.

That MIND Set is what Pastor Wright seems to share..

You say wrights attacks are Against the SYSTEM..(of White Power) but NOt against White People..What Kind of Double talk ..lame excuse making is that..

You say The ICE CUBES and pastor Wrights Racist Rants and hate filled Comments “DON”T” Compare to White Supremists..or White Seperatists..??

They are WORSE..and what you said is a Flat Out Lie..

Look at the Lyrics Larry Quote Above..Look at Ice Cubes other Lyrics on his PREDATOR Albumn..Look at the Frenzy of the people behind Pastor Wright while He is Talking about The USKKK of A..and that 9/11 was a Payback..

Hillary Clinton was not President..during those pardons..Lets wait and see who your Boy..Obama Pardons if He gets elected…

You say..Evaluate the Candidates performance in the
SENATE….OObama Has no Record..No show..No Vote..

CASE MADE..HILLARY WINS..

Oh..and for someone who is so Concerned about the CONSTITUTION..It Says in its Preamble..”WE, THE PEOPLE, IN ORDER TO FORM A MORE PERFECT UNION”..
you have just put another nail in it with you own
HAMMER..

Thank God there are a Majority of Good decent People in America of ALL COLOR…willing to Stand Up for Hillery and denounce the ICE CUBES and Pastor Wright who Spew hatred and racism..and Violence..and are DIVIDING Our nation..NOT Uniting it..

All I Know is..Those have been Obamas Homies..and Obama has alot to learn about TRUTH & TRUST..

I’ve read you carefully for quite some time, and have been grateful to you as a patriot and as an activist. I’ve cited you as an authority and pointed people to your work many times.

That’s why I’ll be taking some time to respond to this. You brought up so many things in your post, it will be hard to address them all, but I’ll try.

I think there are all kinds of well-taken angles from which to argue that Obama is not the best candidate for president now. I’m not sure I read any of them here.

Others in this thread have touched upon (thank you Bruce) the problems with analyzing class and race by Hollywood stereotype. I also am not sure how you derived “authentically black” to mean poor, uneducated, and somehow violent. (Was MLK Jr. “inauthentic”? Is Condi Rice “inauthentic”?)

Obama is biracial, and he has always sought the more difficult path of walking effectively and respectfully in many circles–white and black, poor and not-poor. It has been hard for him.

When he was in the Illinois legislature, he was viewed with suspicion because he worked so easily with white Republicans to get changes enacted. Earlier, when Obama found direction in his passion for service, and sought to put his privilege to use addressing some of the suffering he saw in the streets of Chicago, he found he could not do so while he was perceived as an outsider.

And an outsider he was. As you said, though he had a dead father and largely absent mother, and though his family was not wealthy and nothing was handed to him (he was not a “legacy” admittance to Yale with a C average), compared to many, he was indeed “privileged.” His education, and his upbringing in a traditional white household, did set him apart from the group of people he wanted to connect with and serve.

Many black churches would have offered an opportunity for Obama fulfill his personal need for belonging in an African American circle, but the UCC congregation he joined offered a unique inroad to the struggling urban poor through its extensive social programs, and an way for him to become known and trusted among the most needy and struggling people in the Chicago black community, with whom he hoped to work.

With regard to Reverend Wright, he has never advocated revenge or violence, and in this, his words cannot be compared to the rap lyrics you quoted so extensively. Wright has never argued that blacks are somehow racially superior or should have the power to systemically disenfranchise others. In this, Wright’s statements can’t be compared to those of white separatists, either.

That said, I can’t think of anything further from Obama’s core outlook than the obvious bitterness, paranoia and even delusion that comes out in some of Wright’s sermons. Obama fiercely distanced himself from those sentiments. But, like Clinton’s minister Dean Snyder, Huckabee and McCain in their statements regarding Wright, Obama views Wright’s outbursts in the context of a history of pain, and weighs his rhetoric against his good works, which are legion.

Wright’s statements can also be understood as criticisms of systems of (white) power, not attacks on everyday white citizens. They can be viewed in the context of the often more insidious material (more dangerous because it has more institutional power) that comes from right wing white ministers, some of whom the Clintons, for example, are very close to.

We can go on for months analyzing Wright, or feverishly drawing ties, however thin, between Obama and controversial figures he has worked with in seeking the greater good.

But if, indeed, we are to judge Obama’s candidacy by the “scumbags I’ve hung with” metric, it’s only fair to apply the same measure to the Clintons, Hillary being the only remaining Democratic choice.

The Clintons did overturn the criminal convictions of a long list of thugs and hoodlums. What does that say about the Clintons’ associations, and their impact on governance?

(You must already realize that the length and contents of that list, overlooked largely in the wake of the Lewinsky scandal, will be one of the first lines of attack from the right if Clinton is the nominee, and it will be viewed by the voters afresh.)

All that said, I’d like to see the candidates evaluated on their performance in the Senate, their votes, their suggested policies, and their projected solutions. It troubles me that nobody paid attention to the substantial speeches on the state of Iraq and the economy that Obama gave immediately after his “race speech,” which was given only in response to the Wright scandal.

Perhaps, someday, we can have an election about ideas and solutions, rather than fear, division, and diversion. I personally would like my Constitution back, for starters. And I know McCain won’t help.

And btw your comment engine sucks beans.

Huh?
That makes no sense:

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No, not mainstream at all…

Obama’s preacher is so bad that Bill Clinton invited him the the white house after he got caught lying about not fucking that woman Monica. Well, he did fuck her in the mouth, in the oval office no less, and while Hillary was in the house. And so Bill called on Obama’s preacher to come to the WH to forgive him for his sins.

Who are Hillary and Larry going to call to help them obtain forgiveness for their race-baiting and racial dividing?