hopefully, we will not allow ourselves to become distracted by their games over the upcoming months and will remain steadfast in our determination. if not, they will win and our party will never learn that it cannot continue to feed us shit sandwiches.

I say last impression because a couple times of seeing her idiot mouth flapping crap and I just switch the channel from now on. Life is too precious to waste on the nonsense and on people talking crap.

Thousands of voters have been disenfranchised because Howard Dean and the DNC wanted S.C. to vote before Florida so African Americans would be in a position to carry more weight in choosing a candidate.

Should 11% of our population have that power? Is this democratic?

Why should the candidates have a say in settling the Fla./Mich. fiasco? The Obama campaign has already proven they will do anything to win, there is no way Obama will agree to have Florida/Michigan votes counted.

Dean and Brazile should apologize to voters in Florida/Mich. and admit….WE HAVE SCREWED THIS UP…and count the votes.

We are 74 yrs. lifelong democrats, totally disgusted with dem. leadership. This primary has exposed the corrupted democratic party system of choosing a nominee and the careless attitude leadership has towards voters and telling the truth.

I truly detest Donna Brazille. I used to just think she was really, really stupid, but I thnk she is bent on destroying this country.

That is exactly what is going on. Obama can ONLY win if the voting is stopped now. If Florida and Michigan are counted then he may as well drop out now because he cannot win. That is his dilemma. He had to close the nomination in Texas and Ohio and he couldn’t. Now he can try to bluff or he can try to intimidate Dean, Palosi, et al into rigging it for him but he cannot win by winning the primary election.

He and James Baker came up with a system for election reform, but it had a fatal flaw - a National ID plan, which disproportionately disenfranchises the poor. So, his leadership has been a bit of a mixed bag, but at least he has been trying to do something.

I’m really really in shock that Pelosi, Dean, et al, would believe it’s a great idea to foist a nominee on his that skated through the primary by gaming small caucus states, and losing the states that are actually IMPORTANT in the GE. I believe that Howard Dean is so in love with his “50 State Strategy” that he’d do anything to make it look like a success, even if it means we get another empty suit in the GE. There is a reason why the big state strategy works against the GOP, but hard-headed Dean and his cohorts think they know better. Such folly.

No one will be screaming foul?

Your point went right over her head!

People will be voting with their feet and the primary season is going to the Convention floor.

She is a very disingenuous perp. ( not the words I really am saying but..polite conversation and all…

A few weeks ago in a long interview on NPR, H. Dean said DNC wanted S.C. to vote before Florida so Africian Americans would have more of an impact on who our democratic nominee would be

Wow. Is Dean unaware that AA people live in Florida, as well? He’s willing to disenfranchise people of all colors and religions because he wants to play God with the primaries? I have been feeling lately that this is all part of what they’ve been pushing, and the refusal of Dean and Pelosi and others to do this fairly. I believe they want so desperately to cling to the newly active AA voters who were brought to the Party by Obama, that they’re willing to disenfranchise the rest of the Party.

The BIG problem that the DNC and the Dem Elite are missing. They are contorting and rewriting the rules for the Obamacrats, and yet the Obamacrats have been found to be not voting ‘down the ticket’ for other Democrats. Many of Obama’s fans are one-issue voters. Unfortunately that “issue” is a person.

Dear Ms. Brazile,

Today you said something that suggested it’s all been worked out, MI and FL will not have a say in the nomination process and Sen. Obama will win the nomination because he has won more states. Did I understand you correctly?

I honestly don’t understand why the Democratic Party Leadership, why leaders like you, are saying the things that you are saying. There seems to be a strong desire to remake the party in some new way that celebrates young, African American, and liberal-elite voters while completely disenfranchising and dismissing the white, Hispanic, Asian, Jewish, female, older and working class voter. The problem is that a great percentage of us blue-collar democrats hate having our votes discounted and we hate being treated with disrespect and we hate having our support taken for granted. So, while we thought it was our party we obviously made a mistake. But, many of us don’t want to be a part of a racist, classist, and thuggishly immature Democratic party.

I liked the Democratic Party that stood for equality for all, that stood for women’s rights, that stood by labor and veterans and for a society where civil rights were far more important than business rights. I liked the Democratic Party that wanted every vote to count, and every voter’s voice to be heard. It saddens me that the DNC is going to disenfranchise FL and MI and in doing so destroy the party I used to love. I don’t see how any Democrat wins the White House now, or in 4, 8, or 12 years — all the Democrats I know hate to be discounted and taken for granted. That’s why so many of them will never vote for Obama, because his campaign has bullied and dismissed as witches and bitches Hillary and her supporters and that’s a slight we won’t get over for quite some time.


DONNA:

> We have to work it out. They made the decision to opt out of the rules. So, we
> need to find a solution.
>
> No need to overturn the rules now. Especially since both candidates cannot
> agree on a formula.


ME:

Except that Sen. Obama will never agree to any solution to MI and FL that means people get to actually have a say in the nominee, and by taking that stance and by the DNC allowing him to deny revotes FL and MI are lost as electoral wins for several election cycles, at least.

The DNC is punishing party leadership in FL and MI by discounting Democratic constituents. Do you see how that will destroy the party? Those Floridians and Michigonians, who had no say, whatsoever, on when the primaries were held are just going to decide they no longer want to be Democrats because the Democratic Party no longer represent them. In fact, many of us Washingtonians, Californians, New Yorkers, Massachusettsians, etc., we’re going to do the same thing, too.

In WA state the Democratic Party leadership chose to have a caucus, while the state legislature chose to have a primary. By the DNC choosing to “count” the caucus votes instead of the primary votes they chose the young and unencumbered over the working class. Again, Democrats on the ground had no say in that. And, for me, going to a caucus and having to endure the Obama brand of thuggery was distasteful, scary and I doubt I’ll ever do it again. We get that you don’t want us in the party…I just don’t get why not. We have been a reliable and solid voting constituent, and maybe you thought we were used to being treated like crap so we wouldn’t notice when the Democratic Party did it — but we have.

In your statement to George Stephanopoulis, yesterday, you suggested it has been worked out. How? I’m curious.


DONNA:
> We will work it out as soon as the primary season is over and no one is
> screaming foul.

Why Friday? Because he assures himself of invites on all the hate-Hillary weekend TV and radio programs. He lives to bask in the limelight. He’ll be cosseted and cajoled as he and the interviewer engage in mutual masturbation over the Hope Pope, while verbally tearing HRC to shreds.

The media will have its usual field day. All the BO lies will be unmentioned or glossed over; all the HRC accusations will be pulled out, refurbished and bronzed with plenty of lightly scented misogyny. Blogs like dailykos will go nutz with joy and tax even their ability to shovel manure.

And most everyone will forget Leahy the quitter-master giving in and supporting Roberts and Aleto to the Supremes; Or his turning his back on women’s reproductive issues after assuring voters he would not let his religion influence his duties as Senator.

What do you consider the will of the people? The popular vote, the primary vote, the primary vote plus the caucus. If your going to count people, let’s count ALL people including MI and FL, otherwise your letting the party insiders decide not the people. It’s them that make all the rules that exclude rather than include.

Personally I’m all for a new party, a real party of inclusion, not exclusion that the Dem party is looking like now…

But if he is the candidate of the Democratic party without counting the votes of Michigan and Florida, then the Democratic party is no longer one which I can support.

President Carter can complain about voting fraud in third world nations and can’t see it happening under his nose? I am terribly disappointed by his lack of leadership here.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/3/28/projection-clinton-wins-popular-vote-obama-wins-delegate-count.html

They want Hillary to drop out so they can FORCE the big state voters to tow the Party Line. They believe, and unfortunately with good reason, that once everyone calms down, then the majority will accept Obama. Yes, they know some will defect and vote for McCain, and others will stay home, and others will vote Nader. But they are counting on the fact that those numbers will be SMALL. And that the young people will be out in force to ENERGIZE things and hopefully intoxicate the political landscape and media with Senator Hope-a-Dope Obamania.

That’s why our emails and letters of complaint and dissatisfaction aren’t getting any traction. WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW THEM THE MONEY!

I intend to do just that if Hillary doesn’t get the nomination. Sadly, I think that a lot of people won’t.