Obama Thugs Force Mayor Nutter to Shut Down his E-mail Server
By Fleaflicker on April 1, 2008 at 2:01 PM in ABC News, Barack Obama, Cultist Thugs, Obamedia
As I wrote yesterday, Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter’s office was flooded with angry calls from Obama supporters after he came out in support of Hillary. Some people doubted my statements but those that bothered to call Mayor Nutter’s office confirmed everything that was written. But, as Hyper Educated Uppity Woman reports, his e-mail server was overwhelmed and had to be taken down.
I’ll let her describe the well deserved contempt so many of us have.
As part of NoQuarter’s encouragement campaign, many readers emailed Mayor Nutter in support of his courage under harrassment. His email was returned by Mailer Daemon. The poor guy had to shut down his email address, so you can just imagine how badly he was harrassed by these savages. My God, these people are fear mongers and race baiters. What’s next? Coming to your home and beating the crap out of you? Lining us up and shooting us dead until there are no more Hillary voters left?
We all know how passionate those Obama cultists can be. And they have the Obamedia wrapped around their scrawny little fingers. So we cannot back down, however often they threaten us. We represent the heart and soul of the Democratic party. They represent the far left wing radical wing of the Democratic party. Yet they are so determined to take over the party that they aren’t afraid to destroy the party if they can’t.
This is the time to come together and gather up whatever hidden strength you have. Because the next few months are going to be a tough battle. Expect the worst and prepare to fight back with everything you have.
I give Hillary Clinton a lot of credit for doing the right thing during all this fear-mongering. She is surrounded by party cowards who have even helped Obama blame her every time he is in trouble. Reverend Wright is even her fault. This is downright surreal!
My personal thanks to Hyper Educated Uppity Woman. And an extended thanks from everyone at No Quarter. Let her example be a guiding light for the battle onward.
As she says so eloquently:
Give me the “Politics of the Past” any day of the week. At least I felt safe. Barack Obama is like a frightful nightmare upon America. I’m even afraid to publish this post. Where did America go? I thought George Bush was frightening. He is comfort next to the fear being generated right now.
….Shiver….
For more information on Mayor Michael Nutter please visit:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/31/the-courage-of-your-convictions/
(with phone number for Mayor Nutter + his e-mail address, which no longer works)
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/29/history-doesnt-pay-the-bills/
(with the story of his endorsement and a video of Mayor Nutter)
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Am I the only one who see’s the exact behavior of the obamabrats as the Bushbots and sheeple of 2000 and 2001 and then again in 2004?
I swear they are one and the same!!
yes, they are, I agree, I also believe this is a replay of 2000 except it is a Dem not a Rep.
No I think you are correct. Imagine if this guy wins the WH. I don’t think we want to go there. It could get very creepy.
Rent a stadium and let the Obama Brownshirts battle it out with Tom Delay’s franchise - the Brooks Brothers Brownshirts from the 2000 election.
You are NOT alone. I live in TX, and we were talking about that precise thing at our Senate Convention/Caucus this past weekend. We did our best to be as nice, civil, friendly, helpful, shall I say… Democratic to the Obamabots. But, they were cruising for a fight. In San Antonio, we overwhelmingly won the Caucus. But, the Obamabots were in such distress, they revolted and brawled with our Madam Chair during our at-large elections. Us, lifelong, loyal Democrats have NEVER seen these Obamabots before. All we know is their unsolicited vile, anger and hatred towards us because we voted for Hillary. Amazing.
Getting back to 2000 and 2004 — we ALL see that comparison to W. What part of the him being an inexperienced, lying dufus, didn’t the rest of America grasp? Same for BO. What is keeping these fanatics fixated to this myth of a man? The answer must lie somewhere in the inner recesses of our collective psyches as a Nation. Many of us must be really insescure and damaged, and it is playing out in this Political Drama.
Gina,
When you say you’ve never seen these obamabots before, do you mean you recognize most of the other voters. I ask this because this is what was reported in Iowa - busloads of strangers in small towns, all for Obama of course, with no ID often, saying they were college students. I am wondering if they did same thing in Texas, bringing in outsiders to vote.
Also, re second question, how important is media, MSNBC especially, CNN too, in brainwashing voters? I wonder about this.
“with no ID often,”
With NO ID????????
How can this be? Don’t you have to be a registered voter? Isn’t your name supposed to be on a register? And if you come with no ID, don’t you have to be given a provisional ballot which will be be counted if you are found to be on the registration rolls?
Are caucuses THAT diferent from primary voting? I had no idea. If so, it would be very easy to manipulate and cheat that system.
OMG that sounds third world country like.
This has to be investigated and the entire Dem primary system overhauled.
I fear this is the new America. So much of our “entertainment” and media is about anger, cynicism, and disregard for other people’s feelings.
This is the Age of Jackass… I much preferred the Age of Aquarius.
I hope Mayor Nutter, and Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, know how much they’re admired and thought well of, in light of all the abuse they’ve taken this week. Like Hillary’s 16 years of attacks, people forget that they are humans and do not deserve this. Sad
I could not have said it better myself. Kudos to you. The Obama freak show is starting to spin out of control, and it’s getting scarier as the days go by.
The Age of Jackass was actually Bush.
This is, really, more enlightened.
It will get dirtier, but problems aren’t solved by the next news cycle, even if the PR guys think in this manner.
Reading Susan’s post in regard to “one of the great strategic blunders” it is apparent a concentrated group is banding together to TRY to do what’s right, calling out both McCain, and Obama, on their antics.
And it’s not being done for selfish or monetary reasons, it’s being done for the welfare of the country.
So that’s progress since 2004, less and less astroturf, more real grass, less successful attempts by PR groups, or PR “special forces” or “ops” to bamboozle the Internet communities, (usually made up of the intellectual classes)with sophistry and garbage propaganda.
Isn’t it illegal to mail bomb someone? Isn’t Mayor Nutter’s office going to file a complaint with someone/somewhere? There must be a form of recourse here.
Hopefully they can track them back via I.P. addresses and get those folks TOSd.
Also viral tracing, among other facotors.
Most likely they will feel it’s not worth the effort, but every once in awhile, someone gets fed up, and puts on a trace, and a hacker goes to court.
They don’t like it.
It’s really sad, because the politics of hate have not been part of the Democratic platform since the racists left after the Civil Rights Movement.
We’re supposed to be about diversity, tolerance, and freedom of speech.
Good thing Obama is going to unify us, huh?
Who the hell wants unity?
It is unamerican.
It is not what we are about.
Beware candidates who offer it.
Obamathugs
Imagine if this guy wins the WH.
Not gonna happen.
The Cult are in for a rude surprise, should the object of their adoration be nominated. It’s a media lesson the “left” has forgotten. They’ll be forced to relearn it, those that is, that are not gaming the process on behalf of McCain.
Lol!
Why does the left continually make these mistakes? Why do they ALWAYS underestimate the power of the right? Their idealism gets them into deep trouble.
Why the constant temper tantrums?
Why the constant temper tantrums?
If Senator Hary Ried and Speaker of the House Pelosi are any example, one must state the obvious. Greed is not to answered by “Can’t we just get along?”
Reid and Pelosi are considered “Left”?!
You must be kidding me.
It appears to me it is the left of the party that is calling the most for impeachment!
This assignation is disturbing, this claim of Obamaniacs as ‘Left’, inclusive of all of them.
It is textbook Divide and Conquer politics — isn’t the Obama division itself enough? It’s not bad enough there is that rift, for whatever reasons his minions have, so now we’re creating new categories to put people in for the purposes of fragmenting the party even more? I am not convinced that it is the ‘left’ of the party which constitutes the cult of personality of Saint Obama. It cuts across the entire population: for one group, are not a very many black Democrats on the right side of the party. (I’m not saying all black Dem’s are for Obama, mind you.)
Further, isn’t it a bit bizarre the party composed of the political left-leaning in this country denigrating it’s own left?
I question the agenda of those trying to promote and magnify the meme — if that does not fit, then I ask you to seriously think of what you’re saying first.
“Their idealism gets them into deep trouble.”
Spot on… it’s this almost irrational belief that the righteousness of ones views is strong enough to combat all evils. A dangerous and naive sentiment at best, it presupposes that deep down inside - those on the other side are operating from the same value systems, and will play cricket.
The 90s belief that standing on principle alone will carry you through. Okay, we’ve all seen that it takes much more than that - and it’s about time they figured it out as well.
Problem is - both parties (Democratic/Republican) today are really nothing more than opposite sides of the same flawed coin. As such - status quo really remains order of the day regardless of who’s running things, because they all continue to profit from it, while we peons just have to suck it up.
while we peons just have to suck it up
Speak for yourself. Thanks
Yes, I see your efforts have made a huge difference (even before the current election cycle) to change how things are done.
Thanks.
How the F*** would you know what I have done or not done? you AHole. You have had nothing to share but “One man one vote”, I even said Thanks…but once again Kevin, you ‘assume’ and that is not a replacement for critical thinking. So the next time you use the word “we” think twice about it, especially when your describing yourself as a peon, which in your case maybe true. Not in mine JACK!!
Take a deep breath and relax. You make a snarky response, expect one back.
Your statement was an implicit comment that while I (perhaps) and others refused to suck it up - you’d done something about it. And if you have done something about it - then what pray tell have you done but complain, or plan/threaten to quit the party?
LOL
correction “are forced to suck it up”
You make a snarky response
Here’s the thing. It wasn’t a snark.
You take the liberty of lollipop logic and assumes, Kevin. How you see your self has zip to do with anyone else. Your use of the word “peon” is how you see your self and is indicative of low self esteem.
Take a deep breath and relax.
No way! Find your own treadmill.
“You take the liberty of lollipop logic… Your use of the word “peon” is how you see your self and is indicative of low self esteem.”
That’s it… accuse me of something, then exhibit that precise behavior yourself.
Though, I have to admit I got a kick out of “get your own treadmill”.
you are not welcome at this site. leave.
Thrasyboulos:
I hope you are right!
I saw McCain on TV this morning giving an interview. He looks SANE right now. That is pretty pathetic isn’t it? But seriously he looks reasonable, calm, authoritative and MOSTLY (this is going to sound absolutely ridiculous) HUMBLE! I think his humility might be perceived as healthy opposition to Obama’s monstrous display of arrogance and entitlement.
I can’t believe I’m actually saying this.
Um, okay: here we go again.
I have strongly objected to some of the material you have posted recently, considering your claims thinly supported, if at all. I must say, though, that I thought that your suggestion of calling Mayor Nutter’s office to thank him for his strong, public endorsement of Senator Clinton was a fine idea, and I did so.
But, can you explain how you or your source ‘know’ that is was what she and you describe as those “… savages, fear mongers and race baiters” from the Obama camp who triggered the change in status to his electronic mail account, resulting in the rejection notices you describe?
I ask because, among other things, I am the mail administrator for our company, and see no indication at all that any particular group—or, set of individuals allied by common purpose—was responsible for this development. It would seem that an overwhelming response by supporters of Senator Clinton who sent thank you notes or congratulatory messages could well be responsible.
Maybe you could clarify this situation.
I will be more than happy to answer your question.
I called Mayor Nutters office yesterday around noontime. After assuring the person on the switchboard I was calling with a positive message, I was transferred to a female contact in the mayor’s office.
The woman was extremely upset, and told me that she had been receiving viscious hate calls from the ObamaBots since the office opened.
I WILL NOT reveal any more about the person I spoke with, as we can see there is danger in that.
So Michael Laffrety - we KNOW it was your tribe. Go ahead and try and spin it - but you people are despicable cretins, who deserve nothing but the worst kind of contempt and ridicule.
Nellie Thanks for calling that person. Tweet tweet!
So Michael Laffrety - we KNOW it was your tribe. Go ahead and try and spin it - but you people are despicable cretins, who deserve nothing but the worst kind of contempt and ridicule.
Nellie,
Wow. I recall a while back that you were afraid that *I* was too emotionally involved in this.
Rest.
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Clinton surrogate says Obama will win presidency
This just proves that a vote for Obama is a vote for communism (get rid of the impeachment law and guns), fascism (live birth abortions and if the baby survives no chance of getting medical care) and terrorism (Ayers & Dorhn)!
ROFLMAO - thanks for the laugh
Seems to me you’re lost
***points the way to Free Republic***
Yeesh.
There is no way that Obama can win the GE. None.
Why then do people support him? I just don’t understand. Obamatrots, I got news for you. If you think fighting Hillary was hard, you are not going to deal with the Republicans. Unless your plan is to demand McCain withdraw from the race. I shouldn’t have said that. I’m giving you ideas.
Seriously - what are Dean, Pelosi et al. trying to do? Obama cannot win.
However, I remain confident that we will prevail.
Go, Hillary.
Maybe they have a death wish? I certainly wouldn’t send out my weakest warrior to fight my battle against a formidable adversary - would you? Only an idiot would do that or someone who secretly has it out for his/her own side.
Something underhanded is being sold here.
The thugs have been let out the bag and there is no stuffing them back in. New party time. 3rd party time.
One can try to deny it but it’s too late. There is no middle here.
kefa, i believe you are correct. when the thugs take over, there is no choice but to leave.
however, i hold out one last hope - mccain trounces obama really really badly in the general. obama goes back to the rathole he came from. dean loses his job. pelosi loses her leadership position. the dnc decides to totally clean house and put responsible people in charge.
i may be dreaming, but if all that happens, then maybe i’ll be a dem afterward. otherwise, i’m done with the jackasses.
Wow, you back down to that, to those morons?
You’d back down to someone like K$$?
Wow.
It’s my party, I’ll stay and fight for it.
This storm has been brewing for at least 4 years and the Iraq occupation has a lot to do with it.
Hamstrung by the re-thugs and the criminals at 1600 is NO excuse for where this ship has been let to drift. I am not leaving when some half baked notion of entitlement is left to gorge it self on hypocrisy. The donkey is pulling up lame, but it those that rode to this condition that need to be let out to pasture or “put down”…
Gosh, it feels like you’re selling Amway.
You shouldn’t be so frightened, they’re really not that thuggish, I mean, given the level of propaganda, they’re dumber than a brick, don’t you think?
And as to a physical fight, well, we can take it, we’re men, right?
Simon
In my view what they have done to:
1. Geraldine Ferraro
2. Mayor Of philadelphia Micheal Nutter
3. Hillary herself
IS pure unadulturated Thugish. Even the Bloods, Cripes and other gang members have some limits. These sub human have NONE at all.
Oh, and women can fight also - you don’t have to be a man to take them on.
True Kefa.
It is too late and there is no turning back unless the majority of Hillary supporters get a case of memory loss. We’ve not forgotten the 2000 election, that still seems to stick, perhaps this will also.
Maybe there are many at the top of the Demo Party who are naive and are underestimating the extensive damage and trauma out here.
hope, i think you’ve hit the nail on the head. they keep telling us we’re old and stupid - they’re counting on alzheimers to set in before november.
sorry, dnc, i’m going to hold onto my marbles long enough to vote against obama.
Kefa
You make a great point! They figure we are just a bunch of old ladies out here who will just go away quietly and recede into the background. They’re hoping we will get too busy feeding all the feral cats in the neighborhood.
HELL NO WE WON’T GO!
What we haven’t forgotten is their failure to be an opposition party, their capitulation to the Regimists, and their refusal to consider impeachment of the fucking crazies in the White House.
After all that, they think they can get away with this? It is suicidal. And I am willing to help them out.
I don’t know enough about the-way-things-are. What are the risks and likely outcomes of trying to recapture the Republican Party from the right-wing radicals versus trying to rescue the Democratic Party from its impotence and degeneracy.
Mail servers can take alot of abuse so from a business stand point, having to take it down is disruptive to the business of the city and his office. This is the what the gutless wonder BO has in store for the politics of hope! Puehy (hope the mail server is working at Joliet when I email him there.)
From your keyboard, to god’s ears.
Jake and Elwood, remember?
Damn Straight!
One word: Obamajugend.
Obama: YES, WE CAN’T!
A new ad by Sen. Obama running in Pennsylvania falsely claims that Sen. Obama does not accept money from the oil industry. In the ad, Sen. Obama says, “I’m Barack Obama and I don’t take money from oil companies or lobbyists and I won’t let them block change anymore.”
According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Sen. Obama has received over $160,000 from the oil and gas companies. Two major bundlers for his campaign — George Kaiser and Robert Cavnar – are oil company CEOs. Sen. Obama has accepted money from Exxon, Shell, BP, Chevron and just about every other major oil company. Just last month, Sen. Obama accepted another $8,400 from ExxonMobil, $12,370 from Chevron and $6,500 from British Petroleum.
Guess who is on Axelrod’s clients list, secretive as it is?
Penny bet for every gallon o’ in my tank…
In a North Carolina ad, Obama says that he won’t let jobs be exported. I’m sure that the people who used to work at Maytag are impressed.
What he has a PLAN? or Just by decree? Isn’t something when a pol thinks he’s connected enough to part the red sea, that is the loss of jobs?
And the folks in the textile industry as well.
Tracy,
Employee donations don’t fall under the ban.
Hillary still takes more than Obama.
$306,813
Barack Obama (D)
$213,884
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=E01
HRC didn’t put out the message, “I don’t take money from OIL”.
As usual, you don’t deal with the issue, you play strawman games.
When Barack Obama makes a claim that he doesn’t take money from Oil Companies, then BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION takes at least $213,884, that makes him a liar.
wow…this place sure looks like freeperland.
Seriously, calling Obama supporters brownshirts?
I thought Democrats were thinkers…I guess not all of them :O
The “Brownshirts” aka “SA” or “Sturmabteilung” were the forerunners of the Nazi SS.
They would use violence and intimidation to suppress dissenting voices.
If the shoe fits.
Speaking of, because you said SS, The good Rev Meeks is listed as one of the “10 most kookiest black preachers” on the Southern Poverty Law Center web sites.
The SPLC, or more accurately, Morris Dees, prosecuted, and bankrupted Klan member Tom Metzger in the 1990’s.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?sid=410
The information was linked from perezhilton.com, at Taylor Marsh’s site.
In the company of American Nazi’s, the Obama people must be SO proud.
to: tinat
I guess you haven’t been shouted down by these nut cases, have you? I didn’t think so..and i would bet you haven’t had your vote robbed either, have you?
I didn’t think so.
And I guess you didn’t notice the nastiness of the Obamabrats!
Well I have ..and i too will call them brownshirts!..or Bushbot wannabe’s!
On a serious note - I wonder how do they pull this off. Some of it can be generated through scripts, but for some of this you really need some actual typing.
I cannot help but wonder if some of this effort has been outsourced to another country because it’s (a) cheaper and (b) more difficult to trace.
But wouldn’t it be a hoot if it turned out to be true?
Good grief people - first off, the Philly city server was never that robust to begin with - despite what all of us might expect in a municipal system - it’s not “enterprise grade” and probably never will be.
Secondly, they’ve had this problem before whenever anyone bombarded it with mail regarding city issues.
Right. Do you understand that Philly has a huge African American population and do you understand that Obama has overwhelming African American support? There is no Obama conspiracy no matter how much you want one.
You guys really need to get out more. There is no
Yeah! We need to get out more and you need to put both hands on the keyboard instead of keeping one somewhere unspeakable.
You mean like this? http://youtube.com/watch?v=21YF7ggCG6g
Here’s more on other Obama’s friends…
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/james_meeks_obamas_other_bigoted_spiritual_leader_with_a_special_appearance/
He has more birds of a feather then you can shake a stick at.
Heres a link to the oil deals too
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/03/31/clinton-camp-obama-oil-ad-is-crude-lie/
more lies.
Hello Fleaflicker. I often come here to read you and have posted many times. I am honored to have been linked. Truly honored. You do a great service–one that the Main Stream Press will not do. That is why your writings are so popular. Where else do we go for what is hidden by others if not NoQuarter?
Regards,
Uppity
–A “Garlic Nose”
I love your blog, Uppity! As well as your posts here, Molly. I laughed out loud and said, “You go, girl!” several times. I commend your passion and I’ve bookmarked your blog. (Mine was also one of the comments you posted, I was very proud to note!)
Keep up the good work!
Go Hillary!
Thank you, Hillarysmygirl. I appreciate it more than you know. I shall heretofore be known as Uppity, one who will not march in step with an Undemocratic bully process from a party that no longer cares to represent us with respect and dignity.
I fear this is the new America. So much of our “entertainment” and media is about anger, cynicism, and disregard for other people’s feelings.
This is the Age of Jackass…
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Well said. Exactly. Whatever happen to humility and integrity… The ‘meek shall inherit the earth’… Wonder what happens to these other clowns?
When you have a group of people openly saying that if Obama does not get this nomination black will riot it really leaves me to wonder exactly what this election is about.
The new attitudes I have seen displayed on chat sites and blogs with this election is disgusting. If this is the attitude of people due to the fact that you now have the first black man coming so far in an election race, then what is it to say about the others that may follow in his footsteps.
All I am sure will remember the threats, the name calling, the insulting on chat sites and blogs, who in their right mind will want to go through this in another election cycle.
It is the worse and most uncivilized behavior that has been every witnessed at any election time, and has placed America in the position that its now no different than most banana republics in the line of elections attitudes.
sj, you make an excellent point. can’t stand obama, but would be delighted to vote for ford, jr. - but would that mean the return of riot threats, etc.? the obamabots are not just giving obama a bad name - which doesn’t bother me, because he richly deserves it - but they’re also harming future aa campaigns. obama and his nuts have set race relations back many years.
sj,
I concur. Despicable. Obama can count that as among the reasons I will not support him. And I’m not thin-skinned. It got to a point where I felt I was talking to maniacs. The ‘brownshirt’ comparison is not beyond the pale.
And what’s funny is this: how are they going to win without us?
They can’t and won’t respond to that question. As far as they’re are concerned: it’s all Hillary’s fault. If only she’d quit the race then the ‘great healing can begin.
WRONG!!!
I am HEALED! I’m newly Independent!
WIN WITHOUT ME!
me too, mimi. joyously healed.
re them thinking they can win without us - i believe they really think we’ll come back into lie. obama says he’s sure we’ll support him. he’s either in a huge state of denial or buying diebold’s owners. i wouldn’t put the latter past him.
typo - back into line, not back into lie. (freudian slip? so many lies from the obamaites, the word just types itself).
Savages? LOL!
I don’t think Emanuel Clever would appreciate that language.
Hillary-Backing Congressman Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO), who is supporting Hillary Clinton, went seriously off-message in an interview with Canadian public radio.
“If I had to make a prediction right now, I’d say Barack Obama is going to be the next president,” Cleaver said. “I will be stunned if he’s not the next president of the United States.”
You gross immaturity is shining through. We are talking about YOU paid savages and thugs who like to Troll.
Congressman Cleaver is a REAL person who has attributes you cannot even spell, like character, honor and integrity.
Why do you constantly try and conflate two separate things. It is like calling a fresh picked MacIntosh apple the same as a rotten crab apple.
The ability to differentiate is normally fully developed by the time somone is 12. What does that say about your tribe of filthy savages and thugs?
Some applies just look fantastic and shiney on the outside, but when you cut them in half - low and behold, what might one find: A LONG, SLITHERY, SQUEAMISHLY WHITE AND CURLY WORM crawling through its juicy, firm core.
And that is what happens when a worm like Obama crawls through the unsuspecting juicy minds of simpletons who don’t have the intestinal fortitude to acutely slice through his tasty sweet lies and sour distortions.
Thugs? Savages?
Probably not the best terms to use in reference to an African American man and his supporters. Just sayin.
Fuck you, Yoshimi. You are the obama thug par excellence.
Yoshimi,
Spade was taken long ago when someone said spade work needed to be done. LOL!
Idiot.
I don’t give a GD about skin color - Obviously you subhumans do not look at character, or worth - just the spuperfical wrappings of skin color.
You Thugs and Savages have put a strain on a 30+ year relationship w/ an AA friend I went to grad school with.
So take your 2-3 brain cells and crawl back into whatever cesspool you spewed forth from.
typical obamaite - everything’s racism. sometimes a thug is just a thug.
Ah..how refreshing it is to have paid attention to my english teachers, and foreign language teachers, who told me to always know the roots of language and words.
Thug:
The word actually takes its roots from India, and by way of the Brits to our lexicon. In Marathi, ‘thag’ and ‘thank’ mean “cheater or conartist or swinder”. There is also a likely connection from the Sanskrit term, “sthaga” meaning “fraudulent or cunning or scoundrel” connected to the word Sthagayati, “conceals or covers”.
The Thuggees were a alleged by the British to be a group of semi-organized bandits and murderers who would befriend naive travellers and rob and kill them at opportune times and locations. Often in investigations suspects could easily identify the location of their victims.
(Dash, Mike Thug: the true story of India’s murderous cult)
Under British colonialism the organization known as “Thuggee and Dacoity Department” would identify males as a “thug” and would prosecute them and many family members in an effort to stomp out what the British saw as organized crime that was both wide spread and even hereditary in nature.
Many credible anthropoligists have suggested that the concept is more from the outsider British view than any real organized entity, especially since during the time of the Thuggee and Dacoity Department’s efforts between 1829 to 1850 about 4500 people were put on trial and about 500 were hung.
Because there is no universal standard for what a “thuggee” might be, since they came from different religious groups not so well identified at the time by the British colonials, it would be hard to establish that there was an organization outside the British view.
See:Kim A. Wagner - Thuggee: Banditry and the British in Early Nineteenth-Century India (Cambridge Imperial & Post Colonial Studies)
Thug may be in the eye of the beholder…but both Mike Dash and Kim Wagner seem to agree that there were distinctive methods that single out certain crimes of murder and robbery as “thug” related as opposed to a simple murder or robbery. Others have claimed that most constructs are foreign in view.
Shutting down Nutter’s email server is a act of desperation not a act of strength.
Obama is terrified of people standing up to him period.
Otherwise he wouldn’t have his thugs astro-turf the few blogs that don’t kiss Obama’s ass and bully the few AA who stand up to him.
I told my husband from the beginning that I thought a great deal of the Obama campaign start-up money came from republicans in democrat sheep’s clothing. Of course, the Chicago “money” keeps the “contribution” bucket full. It’s sickening and scary. Boss Tweed indeed!
Rezkowatch today (4.01.08) has an excellent post on the possible smurfing behind Obama’s house finance. I think it gives a little more insight into Obama’s campaign monies, and his extracurricular fiduciary activities.
It would appear just about everyone in IL politics is dirty, Fitzgerald has a lot of work cut out for him, one trial at a time, I suppose.
And in the end, this also connects to Farakkhan, Alsammarae, and Auchi, and the Middle East.
I’m really hoping one of the bigger newspapaers does an expose on Rezko, and his Syrian and London connections.
Bagman Bnkers
http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0610270192oct27,1,4748343.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://www.beachwoodreporter.com/politics/the_blago_papers.php
Obama says during SC debate
http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0610270192oct27,1,4748343.story?coll=chi-news-hed
I’m far left and I find what is happening within our party reprehensible. Never have I seen such abuse and aggression, not to mention propaganda and yes, hate!
Please don’t stereotype me, because I’m far left, as an Obamaniac. Many on the far left realize and agree with all these points brought up on this blog.
Like it or not the truth is, for the main, Obama’s minions are regular old Democrats of every stripe.
I’ve been a Democrat for over 30 years. Because of these cult of personality freaks this is the first time I’ve thought of leaving the party. I do not want my name associated with such people, their rhetoric and tactics; nor do I trust them anymore.
They are as blind to cogent thought and reason as the ‘W’ Republicans.
The horror.
I think most of the comments on this blog exemplify which campaign represents the real thugs and hate mongers.
I think most of the comments on this blog exemplify which campaign represents the real thugs and hate mongers. It is a shame that Democrats are bound to lose the election again because of the anger and divisiveness that has obviouly been created by the prolonged race.
Its too bad that the Hillary supporters desire to keep things status quo. Its too bad that people who believe that things can be better are viewed as crazy.
I believe you guys have to wake up.
Nutters support of Hillary was and is ridiculous. Im sure that when he needs support for his next election he wont get it.
I saw him not too long ago in the City for prayer or something and his voice simply fell on deaf ears. He has hurt his own cause.
Nutter does not really believe in change. He is fooled alot of people. You all need to wake up.
Shameful!
Its too bad that the Hillary supporters desire to keep things status quo. Its too bad that people who believe that things can be better are viewed as crazy.
I believe you guys have to wake up.
Nutters support of Hillary was and is ridiculous. Im sure that when he needs support for his next election he wont get it.
I saw him not too long ago in the City for prayer or something and his voice simply fell on deaf ears. He has hurt his own cause.
Nutter does not really believe in change. He has fooled alot of people. You all need to wake up.
Shameful!
It’s precisely this kind of divisive thinking that may lead to another 4 more years of Bush-McCain!!
If you all can stop the rock throwing and think more globally, you might just realize that the goal is beating the Republicans, not each other. Every election campaign I can remember (way back to Kennedy-Nixon in 1959 - yes, I am old), has been a dirty, raucous affair leading up to the nomination of a candidate. You all sound like this is the first one you’ve encountered! But you surely can’t have forgotten HOW Bush became pres in the first place? Stolen from Gore by the dirtiest back-room tactics hatched and carried out in Jeb’s back-yard, and then sold out by our own Supreme Court - THAT was unforgettable, and must Never happen again!!
Do you really want 4 more years of the last 8? IT IS VITAL that the Dem’s candidate MUST have ALL our support, as this is not the time to have tantrums and stay home instead of voting.
Many of our military men and women’s lives literally depend on our vote in Nov. - do you want more blood on your ballot?
Mayor
I just saw the report from the police chief. And was so disapoiinted . As a black American I was upset . All I could think about is Wilson Goode …….Here we go again. Blacks put Mayor Nutter in office and once again a black Mayor has disrespected black Americans. Mayor Goode let a community burn down and 11 black America die! Now Mayor Nutter lets officers beat kick and disrespect American citizen. If Police are hire and paid to protect the public . Then how do you justify not fireing all police officers present. Mayor Nutter and the Chief Of police fire 4 officers . That tell me that a crime was admitted. The job of a police officers is to pervent and stop crime . Each officers there didn’t do there job…. All should be fire and jailed! If not Mayor Nutter you are no better then the evil police officers that beat three citizen. And to mention murdered officers ( Are you saying that the officers where still upset)_ . Disrespects all Americans that have been beaten and murder by police officers! Sean Bell family should be able to shot any cop they see . And just say WE ARE STILL MAD! I remember when Mayor Nutter was running and he kept saying that he wanted the cops . To be able to stop and fisked . I know then this is a man that is not connected to the people that voted for me.. Any time you give more power to police . Black pay with there lifes!
EW ORLEANS — New Orleans’ police department, its image already suffering after Hurricane Katrina, is investigating new allegations of brutality: claims that three white officers beat up the wife of a black officer this week.
The investigation comes less than a week after two former officers — both white — were indicted on felony charges in the beating of a black retired teacher in the French Quarter in October.
On Wednesday, Jonie Pratt had a black eye, a swollen forehead and a brace on her fractured left wrist. Pratt’s mother-in-law, Dulcie Scott, said the injuries were inflicted after police pulled Pratt over, claiming she ran a stop sign.
Pratt is the wife of Desmond Pratt, a 10-year veteran of the police department, and sister of officer Nancy Parker, a three-year member of the force.
“It’s my understanding that one of the officers spoke the word ‘black’ during the incident,” said Lt. Simon Hargrove, president of the Black Organization of Police. “Why would a person do that if race wasn’t involved?”
The police department said in statement Wednesday that it is investigating and that the officers have been reassigned in the meantime. Their names were not released.
The local NAACP is calling for a federal investigation. “We have a problem with this kind of thing that went back before Katrina,” said Danatus King, president of the New Orleans chapter.
The FBI said it is conducting a preliminary inquiry to determine whether the case warrants further investigation.
Pratt was charged with flight from an officer, battery, resisting arrest, running a stop sign and making an illegal turn.
The Pratts refused to discuss the matter, but Scott said Pratt was returning from visiting her sick father in Baton Rouge early Tuesday when police said she ran a stop sign about two blocks from her house. The woman drove to her house in a middle-class area of the city before pulling over.
“I saw an officer pull Jonie out of the car by her hair,” said Scott, who was baby-sitting her grandchildren at the couple’s house. “He was swearing at her and pounding her into the car. I said,’Stop that, that’s Officer Pratt’s wife.’ ”
Scott said the officer twisted Pratt’s arms behind her and sprayed Mace in her face. She said that two more white officers arrived and that the three shoved the 5-foot-2 Pratt to the ground and knelt on her back, and an officer kicked her in the head.
Pratt was released from the handcuffs after several black officers showed up, Scott said
Is anyone else getting sick of the commentators lauding Hillary like she is the 2nd reviewal of the messiah? I have never seen such ficticious behavior. These people couldn’t be so blind that they haven’t noticed all the bad dealings she has been involved with. I will have to say that this primary has sank the ship of the democratic party. I don’t think the people with any sanity would vote for this woman with all her baggage. She keeps promising Ready on Day one” and what people don’t understand is that the Ready on Day one ” she is talking about could be lethal to this country. Remember there are 32 states, won not 17 like Hillary. She is confused with America. Talk about a one track mind. The good and fair behavior of Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi have made the party better . From the beginning they made up their mind that Obama was going to win the primary and they have tried everything to make that happen. Obama seems to have credibility beside Hillary. If she doesn’t have a prepared speech in her hand, she stutters for answers. “Uh” being her favorite word. Anyone can make it look like they know things, but she is the exception. I wonder what her next flub will be. I wish there would be an upset for America and some of those delegates would just vote for Obama. Hillary seems to have an endless supply of money fron the chins man convicted under Bill Clinton. One of her cronys, . It goes on and on. This is what the democratic party wants you to vote for. A woman with all kinds of shady relationships including terrorists like Bill Ayers and his wife. Why isn’t this taken in to consideration more then it has been? Does anyone remember 911? Ayers was a bomber and was similar to those arabs. He got off on a sweet deal because of a technicality involving FBI. Then Bill Clinton pardon two of his gang members.Now he is teaching at U. of Il. at Chicago. Incredible that they would hire a Hillary. Knowing Bill Cointon pardon gang members…… Maybe because his father was CEO of Commonwealth Edison. Money talks, just ask some of the Monica. And it don’t hurt to know the Clinton
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Bush’s Former Oil Company
Linked To bin Laden Family
By Rick Wiles
American Freedom News.com
c. 2001 American Freedom News
10-3-1
President Bush recently signed an executive order to freeze the US financial assets of corporations doing business with Osama bin Laden. He described the order as a “strike on the financial foundation of the global terror network.” He didn’t say anything about doing business with a terrorist’s brother - or his wealthy financier.
When President George W. Bush froze assets connected to Osama bin Laden, he didn’t tell the American people that the terrorist mastermind’s late brother was an investor in the president’s former oil business in Texas. He also hasn’t leveled with the American public about his financial connections to a host of shady Saudi characters involved in drug cartels, gun smuggling, and terrorist networks.
Doing business with the enemy is nothing new to the Bush family. Much of the Bush family wealth came from supplying needed raw materials and credit to Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich. Several business operations managed by Prescott Bush - the president’s grandfather - were seized by the US government during World War II under the Trading with the Enemy Act.
On October 20, 1942, the federal government seized the Union Banking Corporation in New York City as a front operation for the Nazis. Prescott Bush was a director. Bush, E. Roland Harriman, two Bush associates, and three Nazi executives owned the bank’s shares. Eight days later, the Roosevelt administration seized two other corporations managed by Prescott Bush. The Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation, both managed by the Bush-Harriman bank, were accused by the US federal government of being front organizations for Hitler’s Third Reich. Again, on November 8, 1942, the federal government seized Nazi-controlled assets of Silesian-American Corporation, another Bush-Harriman company doing business with Hitler.
Doing business with the bin Laden empire, therefore, is only the latest extension of the Bush family’s financial ties to unsavory individuals and organizations. Now that thousands of American citizens have died in terrorist attacks and the nation is going to war, the American people should know about George W. Bush’s relationship with the family of Osama bin Laden.
Salem bin Laden, Osama’s older brother, was an investor in Arbusto Energy. - the Texas oil company started by George W. Bush. Arbusto means “Bush” in Spanish. Salem bin Laden died in an airplane crash in Texas in 1988.
Sheik Mohammed bin Laden, the family patriarch and founder of its construction empire, also died in a plane crash. Upon his death in 1968, he left behind 57 sons and daughters - the offspring he sired with 12 wives in Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan. About a dozen brothers manage Bin Laden Brothers Construction - one of the largest construction firms in the Middle East.
Fresh out of Harvard Business School, young George W. Bush returned to Midland, TX, in the late 1970s to follow his father’s footsteps in the oil business. Beginning in 1978, he set up a series of limited partnerships - Arbusto ‘78, Arbusto ‘79, and so on - to drill for oil.
One of President Bush’s earliest financial backers was James Bath, a Houston aircraft broker. Bath served with President Bush in the Texas Air National Guard. Bath has a mysterious connection to the Central Intelligence Agency.
According to a 1976 trust agreement, Salem bin Laden appointed James Bath as his business representative in Houston. Revelation about Bath’s relationship with the bin Laden financial empire and the CIA was made public in 1992 by Bill White, a former real estate business partner with Bath. White informed federal investigators in 1992 that Bath told him that he had assisted the CIA in a liaison role since 1976 - the same year former President George Herbert Walker Bush served as director of the CIA.
During a bitter legal fight between White and Bath, the real estate partner disclosed that Bath managed a portfolio worth millions of dollars for Sheik Khalid bin Mahfouz and other wealthy Saudis. Among the investments made by Bath with Mahfouz’s money was the Houston Gulf Airport.
A powerful banker in Saudi Arabia, Mahfouz was one of the largest stockholders in the Bank of Credit and Commerce International. BCCI was a corrupt global banking empire operating in 73 nations and was a major financial and political force in Washington, Paris, Geneva, London, and Hong Kong. Despite the appearance of a normal banking operation, BCCI was actually an international crime syndicate providing “banking services” to the Medellin drug cartel, Pamama dictator Manuel Noriega, Saddam Hussein, terrorist mastermind Abu Nidal, and Khun Sa, the heroin kingpin in Asia’s Golden Triangle.
The BCCI scandal implicated some of the biggest political names in Washington - both Democrats and Republicans - during the first Bush White House. The bank was accused of laundering money for drug cartels, smuggling weapons to terrorists, and using Middle Eastern oil money to influence American politicians.
The chief of the Justice Department’s criminal division under former President Bush was Robert Mueller. Because the major players came out of the scandal with slaps on the wrists, many critics accused Mueller of botching the investigation. Mr. Mueller was recently appointed by President George W. Bush as the new Director of the FBI, replacing Louis Freeh who did nothing while William Jefferson Clinton allowed the Red Chinese to loot our national security secrets.
The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN), a division of the Justice Department, reviewed allegations by Bill White in 1992 that James Bath funneled money from wealthy Middle Eastern businessmen to American companies to influence the policies of the Reagan and Bush administrations. Robert Mueller, the new FBI chief, was in a senior position at the Justice Department at the time of the review.
White told a Texas court in 1992 that Bath and the Justice Department had “blackballed” him professionally and financially because he refused to keep quiet about his knowledge of an Arabic conspiracy to launder Middle Eastern money into the bank accounts of American businesses and politicians.
In sworn depositions, Bath admitted he represented four wealthy Saudi Arabian businessmen as a trustee. He also admitted he used his name on their investments and received, in return, a five- percent stake in their business deals.
Indeed, Texas tax documents revealed that Bath owned five percent of Arbusto ‘79 Ltd., and Arbusto ‘80 Ltd. Bush Exploration Company controlled the limited partnerships, the general partnership firm owned by young George W. Bush.
Although George W. Bush’s Texas oil ventures were financial failures, his financial backers recovered their investments through a series of mergers and stock swaps. He changed Arbusto’s name to Bush Exploration, then merged the new firm into Spectrum 7 Energy Corporation in 1984.
The Bush-controlled oil business eventually ended up being folded into Harken Energy Corp., a Dallas-based corporation. Mr. Bush joined Harken as a director in 1986 and was given 212,000 shares of Harken stock. Bush used his White House connections to land a lucrative contract for the obscure Harken Energy Corp. with the Middle Eastern government of Bahrain. On June 20, 1990, George W. Bush sold his Harken stock for $848,000 and paid off his loan he took out to buy his small share in the Texas Rangers. The Bahrain deal was brokered by David Edwards, a close pal to Bill Clinton and a former employee of Stephens Inc. Shortly after Bush sold his stock, Harken’s fortunes nose-dived when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. Some critics claim young George was tipped off in advance by his father about the soon-coming Gulf War.
George W. Bush, however, worked wonders for Harken Energy Corp. before the stock collapse. Using the Bush family name, he managed to bring much-needed capital investment to the struggling firm. George W. Bush traveled to Little Rock, AR, to attend a meeting with Jackson Stephens - a powerful Arkansas tycoon who help bankroll the state campaigns of young Bill Clinton. He first gained political prominence as a fund-raiser for President Jimmy Carter. Stephens was also deeply involved in the BCCI scandal by helping the corrupt bank take control of First American Bank in Washington, DC.
Jack Stephens didn’t need an introduction to young George W. Bush. Mary Anne Stephens, his wife, managed Vice President George Bush’s 1988 presidential campaign in Arkansas. Stephens Inc., the well connected brokerage firm owned by Jack Stephens, donated $100,000 to a Bush campaign fundraising dinner in 1991. When George W. Bush won the contested Florida election in 2000, Jack Stephens made a substantial contribution to the Bush inauguration. Recently, former President Bush played golf on April 11, 2001, with Jack Stephens at the Jack Stephens Youth Golf Academy in Little Rock. The former president told Stephens, “Jack, we love you and we are very, very grateful for what you have done.”
Perhaps the former president was thanking him for the money Stephens provided young George W. Bush. Stephens arranged for a $25 million investment from the Union des Banques Suisses. The Swiss Bank held the minority interest in the Banque de Commerce et de Placements, a Geneva-based subsidiary of BCCI.
Both Stephens and Abdullah Taha Bakhsh, a wealthy and well-connected Saudi real estate investor, signed the financial transaction. The Geneva transaction was paid through a joint venture between the Union Bank of Switzerland and its Geneva branch of BCCI.
The BCCI connection, therefore, linked George W. Bush with Saudi banker Khaled bin Mahfouz. Known in Arab circles as the “king’s treasurer,” Mahfouz held a 20 percent take in BCCI between 1986 and 1990. Mahfouz is no stranger to the Bush family. He was a big investor in the Carlyle Group, a defense-industry investment group with deep connections to the Republican Party establishment. Former President Bush is a former member of the company’s board of directors. George W. Bush also held shares in Caterair, a Carlyle subsidiary. Sami Baarma, a powerful player in the Mahfouz-owned Prime Commercial Bank of Pakistan, is a member of the Carlyle Group’s international advisory board.
President Bush certainly is aware of that his former Saudi sugar daddy is still financing Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network. USA Today newspaper reported in 1999 that a year after bin Laden’s attacks on US embassies in Africa, Khaled bin Mahfouz and other wealthy Saudis were funneling tens of millions of dollars each year into bin Laden’s bank accounts. Five top Saudi businessmen ordered the National Commercial Bank to transfer personal funds and $3 million pilfered from a Saudi pension fund to the Capitol Trust Bank in New York City. The money was deposited into the Islamic Relief and Bless Relief - Islamic charities operating in the US and Great Britain as fronts for Osama bin Laden.
The Capitol Trust Bank is run by Mohammad Hussein al-Amoudi. His lawyer is Democratic Party bigwig Vernon Jordan, close friend of former President Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.
Abdullah Taha Bakhsh, the Arab who cosigned the $25 million cash infusion into George W. Bush’s Harken Energy Corporation, appointed Talat Othman to manage his 17.6 percent share in Harken Energy Corp. Othman, a native Palestinian, is president and CEO of Dearborn Financial Inc. - an investment firm in Arlington Heights, IL.
Bakhsh also bought a 9.6 percent stake in Worthen Banking Corporation, the Arkansas bank controlled by Jack Stephens. Abdullah Bakhsh’s share was the identical percentage as the amount of shares sold by Mochtar Riady, the godfather of the wealthy Indonesian family with close ties to the Chinese communists, Bill Clinton and evangelist Pat Robertson. Bakhsh is represented by Rogers & Wells, a well-connected Republican law firm in New York whose partners include former Secretary of State William P. Rogers.
Independent investigator reporter David Twersky reported in the early 1990s that Othman had a seat on Harken’s board of directors and met three times in the White House with President George Herbert Walker Bush. Organized by Chief of Staff John Sununu, Othman’s first meeting with President Bush at the White House was in August 1990, just days after Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait.
There exist to this day an Arab-Texas connection. Khalid bin Mahfouz, financier of both George W. Bush and Osama bin Laden, still maintains a palatial estate in Houston, TX. Former President George Bush also lives in Houston. James Bath, Texas political confidant of George W. Bush, managed to obtain a $1.4 million loan from Mahfouz in 1990. Bath and Mahfouz, along with former Secretary of Treasury John Connally, were also co-investors in Houston’s Main Bank. Bath was also president of Skyway Aircraft Leasing Ltd, a Texas air charter company registered in the Cayman Islands. According to published reports in the early 1990s, the real owner was bin Mahfouz. When Salem bin Laden, Osama’ brother, died in 1988, his interest in the Houston Gulf Airport was transferred to bin Mahfouz.
Since Osama bin Laden’s bloody attack on America on September 11, the federal government has moved quickly to freeze bank accounts connected to Osama bin Laden, Khalid bin Mahfouz, and a host of Islamic charities.
Perhaps federal agents should freeze the financial assets of the Bush family too. It would not be the first time Bush-family assets were seized by the US government for trading with the enemy.
The bin Laden family (Arabic:), also spelled bin Ladin, is a wealthy family intimately connected with the innermost circles of the Saudi royal family. The family was thrown into media spotlight through the activities of one of its members, Osama bin Laden. The financial interests of the bin Laden family are represented by the Saudi Binladin Group, a global construction and equity management conglomerate grossing $5 billion U.S. dollars annually, and one of the largest construction firms in the Islamic world, with offices in London and Geneva. According to an American diplomat, the bin Laden family also owns part of Microsoft and Boeing.[1] The Bush family tides go back 30- years to Osama bin Laden and bush was partners in many oil dealsw with the terrorist. The family traces its origins to a poor, uneducated Yemenite, Sheikh Mohammed bin Laden (died 1967). Mohammed bin Laden was a native of the Shafiite (Sunni) Hadhramaut coast in southern Yemen and emigrated to Saudi Arabia prior to World War I. He set up a construction company and came to Abdul Aziz ibn Saud’s attention through construction projects, later being awarded contracts for major renovations at Mecca, where he made his initial fortune from exclusive rights to all mosque and other religious building construction not only in Saudi Arabia, but as far as Ibn Saud’s influence reached. Until his death, Mohammed bin Laden had exclusive control over restorations at the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem. Soon the bin Laden corporate network extended far beyond construction sites.
I just saw the report from the police chief. And was so disappointed . As a black American I was upset . All I could think about was Wilson Goode …….Here we go again. Blacks put Mayor Nutter in office and once again a black Mayor has disrespected black Americans. Mayor Goode let a community burn down and 11 black America die! Now Mayor Nutter lets officers beat kick and disrespect American citizen and a slap of the hand is given out. If Police are hire and paid to protect the public . Then how do you justify not fireing all police officers present. Mayor Nutter and the Chief Of police fire 4 officers . That tell me that a crime was admitted. The job of a police officers is to pervent and stop crime . Each officers there didn’t do there job…. All should be fire and jailed! If not Mayor Nutter…………….. you are no better then the evil police officers that beat three citizen. And to mention the murdered officers ( Are you saying that the officers where still upset,,,,,,,,,,,So they beat the citizens???)_ . If so….that disrespects all Americans that have been beaten and murder by police officers! Sean Bell family should be able to shoot any cop they see . And just say WE ARE STILL MAD! Military American personel are in prison for disrespecting Iraqi prisoner.Unarmed Blacks in this country can be murder and beaten and before there body is in the ground. The Police officers are back to work! I remember when Mayor Nutter was running and he kept saying that he wanted the cops . To be able to stop and fisked . I knew then this is a man that is not connected to the people that voted for him.. Any time you give more power to police . Black Americans pay with there lifes! Mayor Nutter should no better!!!
After hours of legal wrangling, a custody hearing for hundreds of children seized from a polygamist sect finally turned to whether they were abused when a child welfare worker said some women at the sect’s ranch may have had children when they were minors, some as young as 13.
The testimony came late Thursday, the first day of a court hearing to determine whether the 416 children, swept up in a raid on the ranch two weeks ago, will remain in state custody. Child welfare officials claim the children were abused or in imminent danger of abuse in part because the sect, Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a renegade Mormon splinter group, encourages girls younger than 18 to marry and have children
Our American government should be ashame . This behavior should not have been going on as long as it has. The Latter Day Saints is just a front for child molestor. Anyone with two working brain cells knows this. White men hide behind this so-call faith. To abuse children and women. This has been the way of life in the United States forever. Racist and abusive whites hide behind government law enforcement and faith to keep this country barbaric. The Catholic faith has done the same and worst. There are thousand of children born to nuns not just child molesting go on and no one said NOTHING ! SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
I empathize with anyone,be they white, black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, who has been wrongly mistreated by police in America. Where I part company with you is your apparent disregard for what police officers are up against in many black communities each and every day. Black crime is horrendous in America. Only when black America stands up against crime will the rest of America will take notice and support them. And please… no excuses because most of us are tired of hearing them.
JUST BE FAIR
Why are the white pundits lying ! White women are voting for Obama in big numbers. I see Obama on TV there is nothing but white women standing behind him. It has been about 18 months and still msnbc is reporting to the public that Obama is not known. He has been on the air almost every day . His mother father and grandmother have been the talk of many white pundits . There have been I think two documentary on Obama and his famliy. Obama has written two books. But all the white pundits keep repeating that same thing.They don’t know him.That is just stupid! I think what is really going on is racism.I know if I say the word !That is what blacks always say. But look at the evident. There is know reports on who’s not voting for Senator McCain. Yet his numbers are lower . Obama is leading McCain in the polls.t would seem that the white pundits would be reporting on who’s not voting for McCain. But know.. everyday the same thing is said. It is funny that no white pundit has mention that this is the first black America in American history. And there are some whites that are still not comptable voting for a non-white male person. 40- plus white male Presidents in the pass prove that. When the white pundits report that Obama is gaining ground …..It is always a BUT! http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/
Finally - logic and reason on this so called “war on terror”. What we’ve seen to this point is brainless bravado - and expect more of it if McCain is elected. Bush reacted exactly as Bin Laden had hoped - our economy is a shambles, just like Bin Laden had wanted. Bush was the ultimate patsy - along with the republican party which apparently still believes that being a bully is the most effective means - they also foolishly believe that McCain is a national security “expert”. That’s a laugh - may be if it was still the 60’s or early 70’s, but McCains ship has sailed. This is a new world with new challenges and I just don’t think McCain is up for the job.Being capture during a war does not make you a President. And that in all McCain is riding on . To date I have never heard a thing that in 27 years as Senator McCain has done. McCain ran before and the country said NO ! Again they country should said NO! At McCain age most people would be force out of a job. Too old and out of touch is a understatement!
What a Double Standard
Rev. Jackson made some comments, about Obama that was caught on camera …….And the white pundits, ran with it. They love to make it look like blacks, are against blacks . That is how they will spin it . Now just about two week ago Wesley Clark made comments about John McCain and it was treated . As a attack on a hero ! No one said that they would look into the allegation made by Clark . Rev. Jackson had criticize Obama for saying black men should be more responsible as fathers. The problem Jackson and I also had with Obama comments. Obama said black men and NOT some black men. I was offenden as a father of 4 with a grandfather that was marry to my grandmother for 55 year til her death. He also raise 4 children. Who are all marry now over 40 years. All to black men. I was marry and divorce and became a single father. I receive FATHER OF THE YEAR at my son school. I alway find it funny how the white pundits love to spin hate and divide in the black community. But said nothing about there white community. I have never heard white pundits mention white on white crime or child molesting in the white community both very high in numbers. High school drop out is high in the white community and getting higher each year. There is know mention by the white control media. The problem with this double standard is that whites get to listen to the news and walk away thinking that blacks are that bad bad people . And whites are the victim and the good people that have to put up with horrible non-whites!
Rush Limbaugh is a low life racist with a radio program! Just like Cindy McCain he got away with stealing drugs and lying about doing . He blame his illegal female hispanic housekeeper. It is a shame that the republican party looks at the low life as a hero. A RACIST! Then the Republican Party wonder why America view them as racist! Rush Limbaugh is a total scumbag low life that continue to speech hate and divide. Blame all non-whites for the evils of the world. He started a rumor about Obama wife . Just to keep hate alive, then had the nerve to lie about it. It really don’t matter what I say or anyone . What hatred win. This low life scumbag just sign a deal with his radio station for 400 milion over 10 years . The lack of leaddership in the white community is once again shown. Rush Limbaugh will have to answer one day to a judge of all judges.
IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT BUSH
Finally, it has started. People have begun to speak of impeaching President George W. Bush–not in hushed whispers but openly, in newspapers, on the Internet, in ordinary conversations and even in Congress. I can’t believe that there are not more Americans calling for the impeachment of President Bush! I also can’t believe that there are not more politician calling for the impeachment of President Bush. The movement to impeach George W. Bush is a series of actions and commentary within the public and private spheres voicing support for the impeachment of United States President George W. Bush. The phrase is also used in a broader sense to refer to a social movement and public opinion poll data that include both Democrats and Republicans which indicate a degree of public support for the impeachment of President Bush. The reasons offered for Bush’s impeachment include concerns about the legitimacy, legality, and constitutionality of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, and the controversial warrantless electronic surveillance of American citizens by the National Security Agency. Polls in 2007 have shown public support ranging between 39–45% in favor of impeaching Bush, and between 46–55% opposed. Another thing that should be mention . Is the fact that President Bush is a two term governor and a two term President with all the so-call experince John McCain is claiming Obama does not have. John McCain has voted 95% along the lines of President Bush. Clearly the worse President in the history of the country. Showing America that John Mccain as President . WOULD BE WORSE!!!!
Where are the NON-WHITES!
I notice that Obama is alway asked about the people in attendance
at his speeches. How many whites blacks and Muslims are always counted and explain. Why there are only one group or another this one or that one more or less of all the them. NOT John McCain he does not have to ever explain his allmost all white and all old crowd. The absent of non-white are never explain nor asked by the white pundits. Or the fact that John McCain receive 92% of the white Republican vote. The white pundits repeat over and over to the public. That Obama receive 92% of the black DEM. vote. This leads whites in blogs all over the internet. To make claims that blacks are only voting for Obama because he is black . WRONG WRONG WRONG! Never is said about the Republican whites and how they vote. I must add that this is how racism and pure hatred continue to divide the country and the world. The lack of deverse reporting and the leadership! We have a big problem in this country . And it is the WHITE ONLY MEDIA! They create the spin and go with it.The country needs betterthe world needs better. This country needs white leadership. We need no more program on blacks in America . We need to know about whites in America. This country needs to know did discrimination work for white. Did special and unequal treatment work for white Americans? We need to know how whites contribute to the country. And I don’t say that to be disrespectful. I want whites to be as proud of the country as they are of being WHITE!
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WHITE WOMEN HAVE OBAMA TO THANK FOR WHITE MEN RESPECT
Had it not been for the fact of Senator Obama running for President. There would have never been a white female Vice President. 43 white only male only Presidents and NEVER in the history of the country did a white Republican respect a white female for President or Vice President. Just think about it America, all you had to do to get white presidents to respect a white female was to support a black American for President! Senator Obama is the only reason for Gov. Palin. Blacks are accuse of only voting for Senator Obama because he is black. This is so un-true and surly not base on black voting history. Black voted for Bill Clinton 89% and Jimmy Carter 87%. Blacks not whites fought and died to vote for white men. In 1920 the passing of the 19 Amendment gave white women the right to vote for white men. McCain’s pick is affirmative action 101. A token female is a understatement.!!! But Obama is to thank for the first time in history a white women is finally respected by white male president candidate republican. Gov. Palin has no overseas experince.! She only been in elected office for 6 years. Four years as Mayor of about 9,000 and 2 years as Governor of Alaska population 700,000. She is a mother of five and under investigation for abuse of office! Another thing that the white pundits will not say is never in the history of the country did a white male repubican candidate feel the need to respect a white woman for vice president! WHITE WOMEN….ALL TOGETHER..”’SAY”’ THANK YOU OBAMA!
A PRESIDENT FOR AMERICA
Foreign policy - We live in a world today where most of the world hates us. Because of President Bush and John McCain’s fail foreign policy. This has been the case throughout history that most countries hate the most powerful i.e. everyone hated the Roman Empire. But this is different this hatred is different . We have also lost the respect from other country. Now, because we are hated throughout the world, we need a leader, a president, that will stop any aggression against our country. Sure, sitting down and talking is a very diplomatic way to start things off. Something never done properly by President Bush. But, while we are talking away with ambassadors from, let me use Iran, Iran is stalling us and they are still developing nuclear weapons. Once Iran has those, they have not made it clear that they will destroy Israel and then turn them on us.
On this issue, we need a president without a temper. I want a president that will become upset if our country is in peril. But be in control of his or her temperament. McCain has a temper. Some of his female staff refuse to be in a room along with him. Sure. I don’t want that in a president. I want a president to look into the eyes of ANYONE threatening our country and say, in no uncertain terms, if you do threaten us, you have awoken a sleeping dog and that sleeping dog will be PO’ed that you woke it up. I want a president that will say “Let us talk about things first”. With some countries this will work on matters of economics. It will not work with countries that want to annihilate us i.e. Iran. Obama is the leader not stupid enough to ever let anyone know his temperament! Until it is necessary ! That is a leader not a nut like McCain that can’t control his temper. And will still a war at a drop of a hat!
HOW DID VOTING FOR THE IRAQ WAR HELP AMERICA????????
Supporting the troops means that you are for bringing them home………….And stop any American from dying for another country…………..4113 have lost there lifes for NOTHING!!!!! 90,000 injury 50% of that 90,000 lost of limps 23% losing there homes. 45% can’t find jobs.
John McCain and his people are hoping for another attack on Americans in America…………They believe American dying will help him be President. That is evil and stupid. We need to be out of Iraq fast and yesterday……. The surge working on not working is a BIG ……..So What! Number one we are not at war with Iraq ……We are fighting Iraq’s war in Iraq. Iraqi pay 59 cents a gallon for gas Americans pay over $4.00 a gallon. Not until March of this year did the Iraqi government start paying for there war………. Now they are paying 23% of the war for there country. McCain wants Obama to visit Iraq ….For what I don’t know………It’s a War ! It’s bad……… It should be STOP! Nearly 1,000 American troops are imprison behind crimes they have commited against Iraq citizen and prisoners. Many American military’s life have been detroyed . The bad judgement of McCain and President Bush is behind the evil of Iraq!
WHERE IS THIS MAVERICK IN MCCAIN?
McCain has 27 years in the senate and had learn so wrong how not to do the right thing. McCain talks about being a Maverick over and over. He got Gov. Palin who nobody knows saying the same stupid comments about being a maverick! How did being a so-call maverick help this country? How did McCain help the troops with armor in the Iraq War. The 9/11 report stated that 750- American troops could have lived had Bush purchase the proper armor! (THAT IS NOT A MAVERICK THAT IS A IDIOT)! And it cost lifes! Being a so-call maverick did not stop McCain from voting for the wrong war in Iraq! Being a maverick did not stop the mortgage crisis or the Wall Street mess! Senator John McCain is too old and out of touch with the world and the country! McCain is not a maverick he is a joke . And not a good joke! McCain has horrible judgement . Just like Bush and Chaney both are out the touch with the country and the world! And the condition of the country proves that! 8 years of horrible judgement and disrespect of human American lifes has been the result of Bush ,Chaney and McCain! They just don’t get it! All this maverick talk is just TALK! They disrespect Obama because he said he would talk to people that hate America! HE IS RIGHT! Most of the things that Bush has done or has not done DID NOT WORK! It is time to retire McCain Bush and Chaney.
Hey Mike,
If you’re reading this, do something about the negro problem in Philly….NOW!