Comments on: The REAL Trina Bachtel Story http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/ Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:09:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: yep….words, just words : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-1257662 yep….words, just words : NO QUARTER Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:02:29 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-1257662 [...] you all remember when the media and Obama supporters POUNCED on Hillary for telling the story of Trina Bachtel? They accused her of lying, even though she [...] [...] you all remember when the media and Obama supporters POUNCED on Hillary for telling the story of Trina Bachtel? They accused her of lying, even though she [...]

]]> By: More on the Clinton-O’Bleness Flap « Kittywampus http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-1188244 More on the Clinton-O’Bleness Flap « Kittywampus Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:36:03 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-1188244 [...] hospitals. (Big Kahuna has helpfully posted a transcript of the deputy’s chat with Clinton here.) I’m not faulting the deputy, who likely thought he was involved in a casual conversation and [...] [...] hospitals. (Big Kahuna has helpfully posted a transcript of the deputy’s chat with Clinton here.) I’m not faulting the deputy, who likely thought he was involved in a casual conversation and [...]

]]> By: Meigs County http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-1137293 Meigs County Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:24:15 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-1137293 I knew Trina and her family and this happened in my hometown. I know both Hospitals and I myself can tell you the finger should be pointed at Holzer! I work at another local hospital and I have very good insurance, and all I should pay when I go to see a Dr. is $15. BUT when you go to Holzer Clinic ya better have $100. in your pocket just so you can be seen... DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE? NO!!!!! Just one reason I don't Dr. there anymore. How can you charge someone that $100. even if they have insurance and it should only cost me $15. SCREWED UP IF YA ASK ME! I know of another family that had a medical card for their son and just cause they didn't have a copy of it with them at the time of visit, they told them they would have to pay $100. There again I know there is a number you can call and verify a medical card number threw the state of Ohio. Then the same parents at another time took this same child to the clinic and was told since they lived out of the county they couldn't see the patient. They would have to drive another 40min. to the main hospital in Gallipolis and takin threw the ER in order to be seen. Anyway....... God Bless the Bachtel family and all this crap they have had to put up with from the media. They doesn't the media look into HOLZER! I knew Trina and her family and this happened in my hometown. I know both Hospitals and I myself can tell you the finger should be pointed at Holzer! I work at another local hospital and I have very good insurance, and all I should pay when I go to see a Dr. is $15. BUT when you go to Holzer Clinic ya better have $100. in your pocket just so you can be seen… DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE? NO!!!!! Just one reason I don’t Dr. there anymore. How can you charge someone that $100. even if they have insurance and it should only cost me $15. SCREWED UP IF YA ASK ME!
I know of another family that had a medical card for their son and just cause they didn’t have a copy of it with them at the time of visit, they told them they would have to pay $100. There again I know there is a number you can call and verify a medical card number threw the state of Ohio. Then the same parents at another time took this same child to the clinic and was told since they lived out of the county they couldn’t see the patient. They would have to drive another 40min. to the main hospital in Gallipolis and takin threw the ER in order to be seen.
Anyway……. God Bless the Bachtel family and all this crap they have had to put up with from the media. They doesn’t the media look into HOLZER!

]]> By: LosAngeles http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-259383 LosAngeles Tue, 20 May 2008 06:32:41 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-259383 Assuming either the Left Wing or the Right Wing gained control of the country, it would probably fly around in circles. Assuming either the Left Wing or the Right Wing gained control of the country, it would probably fly around in circles.

]]> By: Uppity http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-186672 Uppity Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:51:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-186672 Nice job on this Kahuna! You're my hero! Bet we never see this on CNN. Nice job on this Kahuna! You’re my hero!

Bet we never see this on CNN.

]]> By: Uppity http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-186669 Uppity Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:47:18 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-186669 Wow. Wow.

]]> By: not guilty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-186649 not guilty Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:27:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-186649 I WOULD LIKE TO SAY BIGKAHUNNA HAS DONE A EXELENT JOB SHOWING THE TRUTH.DEPUTY HOLMAN WAS JUST TRYING TO TELL A STORY HE HEARD FROM THE AUNT OF MRS BACHTEL. THE MAIN CONCERN WAS PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO WALK INTO A HOSPITAL AND JUST HAND THEM A CARD AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HAVING TO PAY ANY MONEY....MRS BACHTEL WENT TO A FACILITY AND WAS ASKED TO PAY 100.00 DOLLARS SHE DIDNT HAVE INSURANCE AT THAT TIME AND KNEW AFTER GETTING PREGNATE THAT SHE COULDNT GO BACK..SO SHE CHOSE ANOTHER FACILITY THE BELIEF OF THE FAMILY IS THAT IF SHE DIDNT HAVE TO PAY THE 100.00 SHE MAY HAVE GOTTEN BETTER CARE FROM A LARGER FACILITY...WHO KNOWS BUT SHE MAY HAVE... NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THE CARE SHE RECIEVED BUT A LARGER FACILITY MAY HAVE SAVED HER LIVE... SHE RECIEVED INSURANCE AFTER SHE HAD GOTTEN PREGNATE... SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO ANY FACILITY AND GET CARE WITHOUT WORRING ABOUT HAVING TO HAVE MONEY UP FRONT......GOOD JOB FOR TRYING TO HELP GET THE POINT ACROSS THAT PEOPLE NEED INSURANCE AND QUIT BLAMMING DEP. HOLMAN ITS NOT HIS FAULT THAT PEOPLE GOT THE STORY MISINTERPITED.... PEOPLE NEED TO SUPPORT DEP HOLMAN AND THE FAMILY OF MRS BACHTEL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY BIGKAHUNNA HAS DONE A EXELENT JOB SHOWING THE TRUTH.DEPUTY HOLMAN WAS JUST TRYING TO TELL A STORY HE HEARD FROM THE AUNT OF MRS BACHTEL. THE MAIN CONCERN WAS PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO WALK INTO A HOSPITAL AND JUST HAND THEM A CARD AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HAVING TO PAY ANY MONEY….MRS BACHTEL WENT TO A FACILITY AND WAS ASKED TO PAY 100.00 DOLLARS SHE DIDNT HAVE INSURANCE AT THAT TIME AND KNEW AFTER GETTING PREGNATE THAT SHE COULDNT GO BACK..SO SHE CHOSE ANOTHER FACILITY THE BELIEF OF THE FAMILY IS THAT IF SHE DIDNT HAVE TO PAY THE 100.00 SHE MAY HAVE GOTTEN BETTER CARE FROM A LARGER FACILITY…WHO KNOWS BUT SHE MAY HAVE… NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THE CARE SHE RECIEVED BUT A LARGER FACILITY MAY HAVE SAVED HER LIVE… SHE RECIEVED INSURANCE AFTER SHE HAD GOTTEN PREGNATE… SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO ANY FACILITY AND GET CARE WITHOUT WORRING ABOUT HAVING TO HAVE MONEY UP FRONT……GOOD JOB FOR TRYING TO HELP GET THE POINT ACROSS THAT PEOPLE NEED INSURANCE AND QUIT BLAMMING DEP. HOLMAN ITS NOT HIS FAULT THAT PEOPLE GOT THE STORY MISINTERPITED…. PEOPLE NEED TO SUPPORT DEP HOLMAN AND THE FAMILY OF MRS BACHTEL

]]> By: BigKahuna http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-184076 BigKahuna Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:08:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-184076 This piece of shit response by Associated Press should be seen for what it is, a piece of shit. Yes it partly confirms the original story, but it leaves the impression that there are 'errors' in the story, but does not demonstrate them. It is a bunch of toe staring reporting. Anne Kornblut has done a much better job. I'm not done with all aspects of this story, so stay tuned. Big K This piece of shit response by Associated Press should be seen for what it is, a piece of shit. Yes it partly confirms the original story, but it leaves the impression that there are ‘errors’ in the story, but does not demonstrate them. It is a bunch of toe staring reporting.

Anne Kornblut has done a much better job.

I’m not done with all aspects of this story, so stay tuned.

Big K

]]> By: BigKahuna http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-184072 BigKahuna Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:05:09 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-184072 Please send your story to me if you have time: bigkahunareports@hotmail.com O'Bleness isn't being accused in this case, but your story matters. This isn't an isolated issue, nor should it be discussed only in the case of Holzer Medical. Please send your story to me if you have time:
bigkahunareports@hotmail.com

O’Bleness isn’t being accused in this case, but your story matters. This isn’t an isolated issue, nor should it be discussed only in the case of Holzer Medical.

]]> By: Biased Journalists And Bloggers, Heal Thyselves! » Mad Kane's Political Madness http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-183398 Biased Journalists And Bloggers, Heal Thyselves! » Mad Kane's Political Madness Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:15:43 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-183398 [...] referring, of course, to the media’s uninsured dead patient mock-fest and, more broadly, to the “Gore-ing” of Hillary [...] [...] referring, of course, to the media’s uninsured dead patient mock-fest and, more broadly, to the “Gore-ing” of Hillary [...]

]]> By: Liz http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-183314 Liz Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:30:29 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-183314 I just sent this to an ABC News Blogpost - and I want to post it here as well: I was a student at Ohio University. In my Junior year I was treated at O'bleness after calling 911 on myself. I could not stop getting sick. They picked me up in an ambulance - took me to the hospital where they told me I was on drugs (I have never been a drug user) and I was sent home. A short while later I could no longer take it, and I called 911 on myself again. I went downstairs to wait for the Ambulance. I don't remember what happened after that, but apparently I was found passed out in the snow in a tank top and shorts. My appendix had burst. We never considered pressing charges, this happened years ago, and I did have insurance. But I can guarantee anyone out there, O'bleness is definitely a hospital that will turn anyone away. I just sent this to an ABC News Blogpost - and I want to post it here as well:

I was a student at Ohio University. In my Junior year I was treated at O’bleness after calling 911 on myself. I could not stop getting sick. They picked me up in an ambulance - took me to the hospital where they told me I was on drugs (I have never been a drug user) and I was sent home. A short while later I could no longer take it, and I called 911 on myself again. I went downstairs to wait for the Ambulance. I don’t remember what happened after that, but apparently I was found passed out in the snow in a tank top and shorts. My appendix had burst. We never considered pressing charges, this happened years ago, and I did have insurance. But I can guarantee anyone out there, O’bleness is definitely a hospital that will turn anyone away.

]]> By: The Democrats Are Losing « Kate Stone http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-183136 The Democrats Are Losing « Kate Stone Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:25:01 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-183136 [...] dissecting Hillary Clinton’s anectotal story about a woman without health insurance ( See NoQuarter for the background on this story)  and all the sexist remarks made about her by the chattering [...] [...] dissecting Hillary Clinton’s anectotal story about a woman without health insurance ( See NoQuarter for the background on this story)  and all the sexist remarks made about her by the chattering [...]

]]> By: Buck Naked Politics http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-183008 Buck Naked Politics Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:22:05 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-183008 <strong>Who Will Fact Check the Fact Checkers?: Media's Clinton 'Storyline' Revealed...</strong> Posted by Damozel | So you think Hillary supporters are just whining when we complain about the way the media twist and distort the facts reality-show style to cast her at every turn as the villain? Let's consider the latest allegations against her: t... Who Will Fact Check the Fact Checkers?: Media’s Clinton ‘Storyline’ Revealed…

Posted by Damozel | So you think Hillary supporters are just whining when we complain about the way the media twist and distort the facts reality-show style to cast her at every turn as the villain? Let’s consider the latest allegations against her: t…

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182986 TeakWoodKite Tue, 08 Apr 2008 07:04:54 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182986 Thanks BigKahuna and FleaFlicker. You have done a good deed to expose the shame born of hypocrisy What a mad tea party the MSM is. Thanks BigKahuna and FleaFlicker. You have done a good deed to expose the shame born of hypocrisy

What a mad tea party the MSM is.

]]> By: BigKahuna http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182959 BigKahuna Tue, 08 Apr 2008 05:46:37 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182959 I thank you both Susan and Fleaflicker. And I thank all the readers and contributors to NoQuarter. I thank you both Susan and Fleaflicker. And I thank all the readers and contributors to NoQuarter.

]]> By: BigKahuna http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182956 BigKahuna Tue, 08 Apr 2008 05:42:33 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182956 Well ABC actually helped a lot by publishing the whole video clip of Deputy Bryan Holman. Without that, I'm not sure I'd have seen the nuances. I don't know the area. If he hadn't been fully shown on tape, we'd still be talking about O'Bleness. At least WaPo updated their account and NYTimes is still spinning it. I'll be getting more info as it comes. There are still some facts being missed. I'll bring them here to NoQuarter. My concern is that Trina Bachtel her son Tray are being ignored in preference to destroy Clinton. This is a pathology in the media and the blogosphere. The rabid folks who hate have decided facts don't really matter. Trashing a deputy's reputation and family's grief is a consequence of these events. I hope the efforts to get the story straight restore their chance to have a peaceful life. Look friends, this part of Ohio already has enough issue and they don't need the nation telling lies about their problems. Hillary Clinton told the truth about the story and was called a LIAR. She didn't lie and the people who called her this didn't fact check anything while insisting she "fact check" and "vet" her story. That makes them hypocrites. I'll provide more updates shortly. Well ABC actually helped a lot by publishing the whole video clip of Deputy Bryan Holman. Without that, I’m not sure I’d have seen the nuances. I don’t know the area. If he hadn’t been fully shown on tape, we’d still be talking about O’Bleness.

At least WaPo updated their account and NYTimes is still spinning it.

I’ll be getting more info as it comes. There are still some facts being missed. I’ll bring them here to NoQuarter.

My concern is that Trina Bachtel her son Tray are being ignored in preference to destroy Clinton. This is a pathology in the media and the blogosphere.

The rabid folks who hate have decided facts don’t really matter. Trashing a deputy’s reputation and family’s grief is a consequence of these events. I hope the efforts to get the story straight restore their chance to have a peaceful life.

Look friends, this part of Ohio already has enough issue and they don’t need the nation telling lies about their problems. Hillary Clinton told the truth about the story and was called a LIAR. She didn’t lie and the people who called her this didn’t fact check anything while insisting she “fact check” and “vet” her story. That makes them hypocrites.

I’ll provide more updates shortly.

]]> By: chris http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182938 chris Tue, 08 Apr 2008 05:21:49 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182938 Excellent story, you gotta start it somewhere. The Trina Bachtel story started on a thread it wasn't related to and now its a headline. Gotta start where you can. These great editors and contributions at NQ are so appreciated. Even ABCNews turns to NoQuarter Excellent story, you gotta start it somewhere.
The Trina Bachtel story started on a thread it wasn’t related to and now its a headline. Gotta start where you can.

These great editors and contributions at NQ are so appreciated. Even ABCNews turns to NoQuarter

]]> By: chris http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182915 chris Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:53:09 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182915 They should be called out big time on it. As should Holzer for their quibbling garbage They should be called out big time on it. As should Holzer for their quibbling garbage

]]> By: ginaswo http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182907 ginaswo Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:44:46 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182907 yeah seems O'Bleness didnt get the HIPPA compliance memo yeah seems O’Bleness didnt get the HIPPA compliance memo

]]> By: sjl106 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182855 sjl106 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:42:17 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/07/the-real-trina-bachtel-story/#comment-182855 Salo Hillary has dedicated more of her life for UHC than anyone including Edwards. And sorry don't see the point of your earlier post seems to me Edwards took the first shot. And guess what when he brought the family of the girl who died on stage with him, I also thought it was a little opportunistic. You can claim all you want you remember the primaries but I remember Edwards frequently attacking Hillary and trying to diminish her, something he never did in the 2004 campaign to his fellow Democrats. Anyone trying to claim Hillary is destroying the chance for UHC is full of it, go whine to obama who used the rightwing smear ad of the 90s "harry and louise" fliars in WI and OH to try and discredit Hillary. Salo Hillary has dedicated more of her life for UHC than anyone including Edwards. And sorry don’t see the point of your earlier post seems to me Edwards took the first shot. And guess what when he brought the family of the girl who died on stage with him, I also thought it was a little opportunistic.

You can claim all you want you remember the primaries but I remember Edwards frequently attacking Hillary and trying to diminish her, something he never did in the 2004 campaign to his fellow Democrats. Anyone trying to claim Hillary is destroying the chance for UHC is full of it, go whine to obama who used the rightwing smear ad of the 90s “harry and louise” fliars in WI and OH to try and discredit Hillary.

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