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		<title>By: Obama Proves Peter Principle at NATO [Updates] : NO QUARTER</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-1171728</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama Proves Peter Principle at NATO [Updates] : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and his utter lack of experience. If only voters had THOUGHT instead of FEELING. From &#8220;Obama&#8217;s illusions on foreign policy&#8221; written April 8, 2008: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and his utter lack of experience. If only voters had THOUGHT instead of FEELING. From &#8220;Obama&#8217;s illusions on foreign policy&#8221; written April 8, 2008: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary&#8217;s Voice &#187; From today&#8217;s Media News mailing 4/10/08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-197203</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary&#8217;s Voice &#187; From today&#8217;s Media News mailing 4/10/08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 05:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama’s illusions on foreign policy (by Ambassador Joseph Wilson, posted at No Quarter) Sen. Barack Obama declared in Pennsylvania on March 27 that his foreign policy would “return” to that of George H.W. Bush and that Sens. John McCain and Hillary Rodham Clinton both had strayed from that model. Having served in the first Bush administration, as acting U.S. ambassador to Iraq in the run-up to the first Gulf War, and subsequently as ambassador to two African nations, I cannot fathom what Obama is asserting… As to Obama’s self-promoted “judgment,” which judgment would that be? Would it be to follow the path of Bush 41: tough diplomacy backed by the threat of military action, as in the first gulf war? Would it be to ignore the rationale put forward by Colin Powell in the debate on the second gulf war? Would it be to vote exactly the same way Sen. Clinton did on war-related issues since he became a U.S. senator, which he has? Or is it simply to criticize from the sidelines with the benefit of never having had to face tough decisions with real consequences? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Obama’s illusions on foreign policy (by Ambassador Joseph Wilson, posted at No Quarter) Sen. Barack Obama declared in Pennsylvania on March 27 that his foreign policy would “return” to that of George H.W. Bush and that Sens. John McCain and Hillary Rodham Clinton both had strayed from that model. Having served in the first Bush administration, as acting U.S. ambassador to Iraq in the run-up to the first Gulf War, and subsequently as ambassador to two African nations, I cannot fathom what Obama is asserting… As to Obama’s self-promoted “judgment,” which judgment would that be? Would it be to follow the path of Bush 41: tough diplomacy backed by the threat of military action, as in the first gulf war? Would it be to ignore the rationale put forward by Colin Powell in the debate on the second gulf war? Would it be to vote exactly the same way Sen. Clinton did on war-related issues since he became a U.S. senator, which he has? Or is it simply to criticize from the sidelines with the benefit of never having had to face tough decisions with real consequences? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s About the Electability, Stupid : NO QUARTER</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-185307</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s About the Electability, Stupid : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joe Wilson has also written several strong op-eds &#8212; including Wednesday&#8217;s &#8220;Obama’s illusions on foreign policy&#8221; &#8212; that foresee the perils Obama faces when voters become more familiar with his lack [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Joe Wilson has also written several strong op-eds &#8212; including Wednesday&#8217;s &#8220;Obama’s illusions on foreign policy&#8221; &#8212; that foresee the perils Obama faces when voters become more familiar with his lack [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-185299</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The republicans, most of them, AND OBAMA, don’t understand the concept, in fact, don’t recognize the factors surmising an asymmetrical war."

Okay, then how do you explain Clinton's votes on the use of force and the funding then in light of that statement?

Better still, considering that just the other day (funny how it disappeared, but older posts still appear in the right hand side) there was one of the typical NoQuarter posts slamming Obama for saying he'd start bringing home troops - everyone hitting him for being naive and saying that Clinton knows better - yet lo and behold we have this statement today:

"We need to be planning and preparing to start bringing our troops home, and I have committed to doing that within 60 days of my becoming president,"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/09/AR2008040904190.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The republicans, most of them, AND OBAMA, don’t understand the concept, in fact, don’t recognize the factors surmising an asymmetrical war.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, then how do you explain Clinton&#8217;s votes on the use of force and the funding then in light of that statement?</p>
<p>Better still, considering that just the other day (funny how it disappeared, but older posts still appear in the right hand side) there was one of the typical NoQuarter posts slamming Obama for saying he&#8217;d start bringing home troops - everyone hitting him for being naive and saying that Clinton knows better - yet lo and behold we have this statement today:</p>
<p>&#8220;We need to be planning and preparing to start bringing our troops home, and I have committed to doing that within 60 days of my becoming president,&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/09/AR2008040904190.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/09/AR2008040904190.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-185291</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teak, if that's the case then the country is beyond recovery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teak, if that&#8217;s the case then the country is beyond recovery</p>
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		<title>By: Diann</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-185195</link>
		<dc:creator>Diann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama’s greatest illusion (delusion?) about foreign policy is that he knows anything about foreign policy.


This above posted statement is absolutely true. His knowledge about domestic policy is just as limited.  There is nothing about this guy that qualifies him for even the second top spot in our country, much less the presidency.  Being half black is just not enough to warrant my vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama’s greatest illusion (delusion?) about foreign policy is that he knows anything about foreign policy.</p>
<p>This above posted statement is absolutely true. His knowledge about domestic policy is just as limited.  There is nothing about this guy that qualifies him for even the second top spot in our country, much less the presidency.  Being half black is just not enough to warrant my vote.</p>
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		<title>By: J.Foreman</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-185149</link>
		<dc:creator>J.Foreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to know who he met in Pakistan and exactly what he did.  That would be very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to know who he met in Pakistan and exactly what he did.  That would be very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: J.Foreman</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-185147</link>
		<dc:creator>J.Foreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to see something new about Obama the liar take at look at this article I saw this morning on Savage Politics.  Wow, if they don't run the liar out of this race now I don't know what will.

http://savagepolitics.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to see something new about Obama the liar take at look at this article I saw this morning on Savage Politics.  Wow, if they don&#8217;t run the liar out of this race now I don&#8217;t know what will.</p>
<p><a href="http://savagepolitics.com/" rel="nofollow">http://savagepolitics.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ca moderate</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-184984</link>
		<dc:creator>ca moderate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great words from Mr. Wilson.  My take on Obama's comments are much more juvinile.  First, did  he not run home from Indonesia to Hawaii to be with those "typical white" grandparents- I guess that why he would negotiate with them so he did not have to visit.  Second,  I had a stop over on the way to Korea in Japan, as a 6-year old, so can I be either secretary of state or at least ambassador to Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great words from Mr. Wilson.  My take on Obama&#8217;s comments are much more juvinile.  First, did  he not run home from Indonesia to Hawaii to be with those &#8220;typical white&#8221; grandparents- I guess that why he would negotiate with them so he did not have to visit.  Second,  I had a stop over on the way to Korea in Japan, as a 6-year old, so can I be either secretary of state or at least ambassador to Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: jyotinc</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-184979</link>
		<dc:creator>jyotinc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've met Mr. Wilson when he visited Charlotte, NC. I could kiss his feet as a respect for this gentleman. An outstanding article. Thank you very much, Sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve met Mr. Wilson when he visited Charlotte, NC. I could kiss his feet as a respect for this gentleman. An outstanding article. Thank you very much, Sir.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-184934</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amb. Wilson, thank you for your words. 

It pains me you are "pressed" to state the obvious, as a person with your insights and experience has much to add.

Thanks for calling it what it is, "a misguided illusion".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amb. Wilson, thank you for your words. </p>
<p>It pains me you are &#8220;pressed&#8221; to state the obvious, as a person with your insights and experience has much to add.</p>
<p>Thanks for calling it what it is, &#8220;a misguided illusion&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-184919</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mimi,

Being AA, would you say that the US is probably one of the best countries to live in regardless of race?  You don't have to answer obviously, but I have always wondered what AA's think of living in the US.  I know there is a bad history, but America has been moving in the right direction.  I saw a comment you made on another post about how you felt Barack Obama would cause negative repercussions in the black community in the future.  I was wondering what you meant by that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mimi,</p>
<p>Being AA, would you say that the US is probably one of the best countries to live in regardless of race?  You don&#8217;t have to answer obviously, but I have always wondered what AA&#8217;s think of living in the US.  I know there is a bad history, but America has been moving in the right direction.  I saw a comment you made on another post about how you felt Barack Obama would cause negative repercussions in the black community in the future.  I was wondering what you meant by that.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-184910</link>
		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;"There was never any question of demeaning the presidency by an unconditional summit for the simple reason that presidents don’t haggle. That’s why presidents have secretaries of state."&lt;/em&gt;

Pay careful attention to what's being said here, because it figures prominently into my reasons for not supporting Obama even though I'm an AA.

The man has no diplomatic experience. He thinks he's going to strut upon the world stage and leaders of other foreign countries are simply going to keel over to his 'greatness.' The man is delusional.

Diplomacy is a labyrinthine world of careful maneuvers based on cultural respect and knowledge as well the political power of the players involved. Nothing about a Barack Obama presidency is going to change that. He may be able to posture such nonsense in the AA community, but in the real world no one cares about the egocentrism of a biracial American man nor of a community that's still choking on anger of the historical wrongdoings inflicted on them and their ancestors. In the scheme of things, racism does not resonate with foreigners the way AAs would like to believe. Not even with a lot of Africans, who have their own issues with colonialism and the corrupt African leaders who have been in charge since their independence. (I guess it would be unfair of me to mention Obama's own cousin here, but fuck it, Odinga fits the bill.)

It's crazy scary that Obama is even close to be POTUS at this point in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;There was never any question of demeaning the presidency by an unconditional summit for the simple reason that presidents don’t haggle. That’s why presidents have secretaries of state.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Pay careful attention to what&#8217;s being said here, because it figures prominently into my reasons for not supporting Obama even though I&#8217;m an AA.</p>
<p>The man has no diplomatic experience. He thinks he&#8217;s going to strut upon the world stage and leaders of other foreign countries are simply going to keel over to his &#8216;greatness.&#8217; The man is delusional.</p>
<p>Diplomacy is a labyrinthine world of careful maneuvers based on cultural respect and knowledge as well the political power of the players involved. Nothing about a Barack Obama presidency is going to change that. He may be able to posture such nonsense in the AA community, but in the real world no one cares about the egocentrism of a biracial American man nor of a community that&#8217;s still choking on anger of the historical wrongdoings inflicted on them and their ancestors. In the scheme of things, racism does not resonate with foreigners the way AAs would like to believe. Not even with a lot of Africans, who have their own issues with colonialism and the corrupt African leaders who have been in charge since their independence. (I guess it would be unfair of me to mention Obama&#8217;s own cousin here, but fuck it, Odinga fits the bill.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s crazy scary that Obama is even close to be POTUS at this point in time.</p>
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		<title>By: Newport News Dem</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-184882</link>
		<dc:creator>Newport News Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bless you Joe Wilson and thank you and your bride for service to country.

You an HRC have something very much in common. Bush/Cheney and Rove choose to denigrate your service to country when you opposed them. HRC's service to country has been denigrated, this time by Obama and crew, because she stands in their way.

Despicable on both counts (3 if you throw in Kerry in 2004). Obama and his minions are as disgusting as the rovian smear machine in bushworld.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bless you Joe Wilson and thank you and your bride for service to country.</p>
<p>You an HRC have something very much in common. Bush/Cheney and Rove choose to denigrate your service to country when you opposed them. HRC&#8217;s service to country has been denigrated, this time by Obama and crew, because she stands in their way.</p>
<p>Despicable on both counts (3 if you throw in Kerry in 2004). Obama and his minions are as disgusting as the rovian smear machine in bushworld.</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-184879</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama-Odinga:50-50 Split Demands Sound SOOOO FAMILIAR… 

The news that Odinga wants a 50-50 split in Kenya's cabinet made me dig deeper...and wow, there are some interesting Obama-Odinga similarities/links....and they way Odinga ran his campaign sounds eerily familiar, too!(see the Newsweek Intl. article link)

http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama-Odinga:50-50 Split Demands Sound SOOOO FAMILIAR… </p>
<p>The news that Odinga wants a 50-50 split in Kenya&#8217;s cabinet made me dig deeper&#8230;and wow, there are some interesting Obama-Odinga similarities/links&#8230;.and they way Odinga ran his campaign sounds eerily familiar, too!(see the Newsweek Intl. article link)</p>
<p><a href="http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-184835</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, Poo flinging is politics by another name.

but I need to start hearing something.= ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, Poo flinging is politics by another name.</p>
<p>but I need to start hearing something.= ?</p>
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		<title>By: TeakwoodKite</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-184831</link>
		<dc:creator>TeakwoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mupity where might you have read that about Hassan Nemazee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mupity where might you have read that about Hassan Nemazee?</p>
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		<title>By: simon, too</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/09/obamas-illusions-on-foreign-policy/#comment-184812</link>
		<dc:creator>simon, too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For once, I’d like to hear something about policy differences that will help whomever the Democratic nominee is &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Obama has no policies, except a continuation of what Bush is doing, which is losing the greater asymmetrical war.

The republicans, most of them, AND OBAMA, don't understand the concept, in fact, don't recognize the factors surmising an asymmetrical war. 

If they did, we never would have gone into Iraq.

Since the end of ww2, the US was fighting not only a cold war, but a greater asymmetrical one, and doing it successfully. When the old creepy Bush and Rumsfeld guys came in the drive was toward a bullying simplistic physical warfare, and it resulted in the mess we see in Iraq, and America, opening the government to foreign penetration. Think all that foreign money affects American policy?  They did this because they do not understand the premise behind  political, military and economic war, all factors combined.

Imagine Bush or Obama or Cheney with this concept, even Addington. They're too busy bashing democrats, and advocating torture, to successfully compete. Auchi, one of the world's richest men, has been financing conservative candidates all over the world, in France and Germany, especially. And he finances Obama, too. So, Obama answers to Auchi, Saddam's former bagman?

So now this has to be cleaned up, it's still a democracy, hopefully the people of this country will be enabled to make the right choices.

To that end, electing Clinton would be in the best interests of America, but if McCain gets in, well, we will see.

Axelrod, and Rove really aren't Miss Stuff, despite their illusions. Neither is Auchi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For once, I’d like to hear something about policy differences that will help whomever the Democratic nominee is </p></blockquote>
<p>Obama has no policies, except a continuation of what Bush is doing, which is losing the greater asymmetrical war.</p>
<p>The republicans, most of them, AND OBAMA, don&#8217;t understand the concept, in fact, don&#8217;t recognize the factors surmising an asymmetrical war. </p>
<p>If they did, we never would have gone into Iraq.</p>
<p>Since the end of ww2, the US was fighting not only a cold war, but a greater asymmetrical one, and doing it successfully. When the old creepy Bush and Rumsfeld guys came in the drive was toward a bullying simplistic physical warfare, and it resulted in the mess we see in Iraq, and America, opening the government to foreign penetration. Think all that foreign money affects American policy?  They did this because they do not understand the premise behind  political, military and economic war, all factors combined.</p>
<p>Imagine Bush or Obama or Cheney with this concept, even Addington. They&#8217;re too busy bashing democrats, and advocating torture, to successfully compete. Auchi, one of the world&#8217;s richest men, has been financing conservative candidates all over the world, in France and Germany, especially. And he finances Obama, too. So, Obama answers to Auchi, Saddam&#8217;s former bagman?</p>
<p>So now this has to be cleaned up, it&#8217;s still a democracy, hopefully the people of this country will be enabled to make the right choices.</p>
<p>To that end, electing Clinton would be in the best interests of America, but if McCain gets in, well, we will see.</p>
<p>Axelrod, and Rove really aren&#8217;t Miss Stuff, despite their illusions. Neither is Auchi.</p>
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		<title>By: simon, too</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What George Bush the 1st left behind enabled Hussein to prompt the second war with Georgie the Shrub&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Huessin didn't prompt the war, Bush and Cheney and Rove did.

This was a Wall Street war, drunks in search of empire.

Maybe we could do an Indian Jones thing, Cheney as Indy, and have the neocons go on a quest for the empire of oil, Obama playing Cheney's young son.

"Anybody wanna start a war?"

It wasn't Saddam.</description>
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<p>Huessin didn&#8217;t prompt the war, Bush and Cheney and Rove did.</p>
<p>This was a Wall Street war, drunks in search of empire.</p>
<p>Maybe we could do an Indian Jones thing, Cheney as Indy, and have the neocons go on a quest for the empire of oil, Obama playing Cheney&#8217;s young son.</p>
<p>&#8220;Anybody wanna start a war?&#8221;</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t Saddam.</p>
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		<title>By: simon, too</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does that include your wannabe Obama, as he takes money from the same people.

Did you know, or forget?

Others haven't.

tsk tsk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does that include your wannabe Obama, as he takes money from the same people.</p>
<p>Did you know, or forget?</p>
<p>Others haven&#8217;t.</p>
<p>tsk tsk.</p>
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