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		<title>By: ChrisXP</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/14/snob-gate-class-war-and-a-chance-to-redefine-the-party/#comment-191703</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisXP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama is POTUS&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, it&#039;s more like this: Obama is a PUTZ.

Even worse a PUTZ that sheds his skin every time he has to identify himself.

Hershel Walker revealed he suffers from DID. At least he knows his alters. Obama can&#039;t even identify with his to &lt;strong&gt;FIND&lt;/strong&gt; them!

No identity. No body. No &lt;strong&gt;one&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama is POTUS</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it&#8217;s more like this: Obama is a PUTZ.</p>
<p>Even worse a PUTZ that sheds his skin every time he has to identify himself.</p>
<p>Hershel Walker revealed he suffers from DID. At least he knows his alters. Obama can&#8217;t even identify with his to <strong>FIND</strong> them!</p>
<p>No identity. No body. No <strong>one</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: getrealtoday</title>
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		<dc:creator>getrealtoday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of you Obama supporters who find themselves on this site, let me say, as a newcomer myself, welcome.  Unfortunately the welcomes are few and far between when it comes to Hillary supporters visiting what used to be neutral sites of open discussion.

Why do a lot of people worry about Obama?  Simply put, we don&#039;t know him.  He is a professional politician, whose life has been nicely arranged for political office.  All of his moves have been smoothly political.  I do not need to be saved as most Obama supporters do.  I think for myself and evaluate.  I wonder how Obama can get away with anything and it seems to just bounce off.  His true self is beginning to show and all of you will find out too late.  He is weak and unknown.  His Wright infatuation, his voting record his mean-spirited wife- these are just a few of the known things that trouble me.  As a Hillary supporter, there is no way I will forgive the press, the Obama campaign and Obama supporters for carefully calculating all the negativity piled onto Hillary.  So many wonderful things about Hillary are not getting out there because of a careful campaingn to elect Obama.  I will not vote for the election of Barack Obama.  No Way!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of you Obama supporters who find themselves on this site, let me say, as a newcomer myself, welcome.  Unfortunately the welcomes are few and far between when it comes to Hillary supporters visiting what used to be neutral sites of open discussion.</p>
<p>Why do a lot of people worry about Obama?  Simply put, we don&#8217;t know him.  He is a professional politician, whose life has been nicely arranged for political office.  All of his moves have been smoothly political.  I do not need to be saved as most Obama supporters do.  I think for myself and evaluate.  I wonder how Obama can get away with anything and it seems to just bounce off.  His true self is beginning to show and all of you will find out too late.  He is weak and unknown.  His Wright infatuation, his voting record his mean-spirited wife- these are just a few of the known things that trouble me.  As a Hillary supporter, there is no way I will forgive the press, the Obama campaign and Obama supporters for carefully calculating all the negativity piled onto Hillary.  So many wonderful things about Hillary are not getting out there because of a careful campaingn to elect Obama.  I will not vote for the election of Barack Obama.  No Way!!</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisXP</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/14/snob-gate-class-war-and-a-chance-to-redefine-the-party/#comment-191656</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisXP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Politico today:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama was holed up Tuesday night in his Philadelphia hotel, prepping for the debate. Aides said &lt;strong&gt;the Illinois senator will continue to defend the gist of his remarks by arguing that it is his rivals who are out of touch.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In other words...

Earth to Moon: &quot;Do you want the Democrat Party to lose in November?&quot;

Moon to Earth: &quot;I, Barack Obama, support this message.&quot;

Unlike in 2000 and 2004 where Dems can blame the GOP for losing elections, if they lose 2008, this time it&#039;s because the Far-Left did what the Far-Left Neo-Conservatives did to the GOP -- destroy it from the base.

Out of touch. Out of mind. Out of office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Politico today:</p>
<blockquote><p>Obama was holed up Tuesday night in his Philadelphia hotel, prepping for the debate. Aides said <strong>the Illinois senator will continue to defend the gist of his remarks by arguing that it is his rivals who are out of touch.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>In other words&#8230;</p>
<p>Earth to Moon: &#8220;Do you want the Democrat Party to lose in November?&#8221;</p>
<p>Moon to Earth: &#8220;I, Barack Obama, support this message.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unlike in 2000 and 2004 where Dems can blame the GOP for losing elections, if they lose 2008, this time it&#8217;s because the Far-Left did what the Far-Left Neo-Conservatives did to the GOP &#8212; destroy it from the base.</p>
<p>Out of touch. Out of mind. Out of office.</p>
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		<title>By: squid-hickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>squid-hickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HILLARY’S LAMENT
  

O the pain--the humiliation

What the hell is wrong with this nation?

It was My Time, I tell you 

I waited so long

Now here’s this Obama

Running so strong
  

I tried to be sweet, I’d cry and wink

When that didn’t work, we threw in the sink

My money got lower, it matched our morale

I loaned me five million, I couldn’t fail
  

But he just kept winning 

Nine, ten, eleven

I surely needed divine help from heaven

And so it arrived, straight from Wright

I knew now I had him, I’d win this fight
  

Then he appeared in Philadelphia, P A

Walked to the podium and began to say

We must begin this talk about race

Our history, our anger, let’s move this debate

Or we can continue the same old line

Or we can declare to all NOT THIS TIME
  

Inside my heart, I knew it was over

But I had to stay in it, not run for cover

I’m in it to win it, repeated so often

Yet what lay before me, a political coffin

The sink is gone, the bathtub too

I’m left alone, even by you
  

You made up your mind

 I’m not in it

Obama is POTUS

I’m back in the Senate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HILLARY’S LAMENT</p>
<p>O the pain&#8211;the humiliation</p>
<p>What the hell is wrong with this nation?</p>
<p>It was My Time, I tell you </p>
<p>I waited so long</p>
<p>Now here’s this Obama</p>
<p>Running so strong</p>
<p>I tried to be sweet, I’d cry and wink</p>
<p>When that didn’t work, we threw in the sink</p>
<p>My money got lower, it matched our morale</p>
<p>I loaned me five million, I couldn’t fail</p>
<p>But he just kept winning </p>
<p>Nine, ten, eleven</p>
<p>I surely needed divine help from heaven</p>
<p>And so it arrived, straight from Wright</p>
<p>I knew now I had him, I’d win this fight</p>
<p>Then he appeared in Philadelphia, P A</p>
<p>Walked to the podium and began to say</p>
<p>We must begin this talk about race</p>
<p>Our history, our anger, let’s move this debate</p>
<p>Or we can continue the same old line</p>
<p>Or we can declare to all NOT THIS TIME</p>
<p>Inside my heart, I knew it was over</p>
<p>But I had to stay in it, not run for cover</p>
<p>I’m in it to win it, repeated so often</p>
<p>Yet what lay before me, a political coffin</p>
<p>The sink is gone, the bathtub too</p>
<p>I’m left alone, even by you</p>
<p>You made up your mind</p>
<p> I’m not in it</p>
<p>Obama is POTUS</p>
<p>I’m back in the Senate</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/14/snob-gate-class-war-and-a-chance-to-redefine-the-party/#comment-191219</link>
		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a party problem...Why?... Study every single election except 92-2000
and you can see why this is a party problem, start with McGovern 1972.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a party problem&#8230;Why?&#8230; Study every single election except 92-2000<br />
and you can see why this is a party problem, start with McGovern 1972.</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
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		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OBAMcCARTHYISM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OBAMcCARTHYISM</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/14/snob-gate-class-war-and-a-chance-to-redefine-the-party/#comment-191208</link>
		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uppity....I have to agree with you. What I find ironic is that the New Left hijacked the party during the 70&#039;s-80&#039;s when we were embroiled in inter faction fighting which the GOP sucessfully exploited to begin the culture wars and the steady creep of theocracy into what had been increasingly secular social politics. It was a great way for the GOP to change the dialogue. Then these new kids on the block The New Democrats tried tomove the party to the center and redefine the progressive movement away from ID politics. What we are seeing is the New Left trying to regain the Power it had for 25 yrs. Our party ad America had a brief hiatus during the Clinton/Gore administration. We need that kind of break again. Our party made more heaway during those years than we had for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uppity&#8230;.I have to agree with you. What I find ironic is that the New Left hijacked the party during the 70&#8217;s-80&#8217;s when we were embroiled in inter faction fighting which the GOP sucessfully exploited to begin the culture wars and the steady creep of theocracy into what had been increasingly secular social politics. It was a great way for the GOP to change the dialogue. Then these new kids on the block The New Democrats tried tomove the party to the center and redefine the progressive movement away from ID politics. What we are seeing is the New Left trying to regain the Power it had for 25 yrs. Our party ad America had a brief hiatus during the Clinton/Gore administration. We need that kind of break again. Our party made more heaway during those years than we had for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisXP</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/14/snob-gate-class-war-and-a-chance-to-redefine-the-party/#comment-191174</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisXP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, both parties have been hijacked. Dems with their Far-Left wing, and the GOP with it&#039;s Far-Left wing (Neo-Cons are our flaming liberals). ;)

I&#039;m just glad some Dems have seen the difference and naming the source of the divide problem -- Neo-Cons -- and not the entire conservative spectrum. Traditional conservatives aren&#039;t war hawks; certainly not into Empire building; and the TC in me smiles every time Hillary talks more like a populist. :)

Strange for a Dem to hear that a conservative can like a Dem candidate (now I won&#039;t like everything Hillary is proposing, especially universal healthcare), but remember Dems also liked Reagan, too. Folks vote on candidates that best match their values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, both parties have been hijacked. Dems with their Far-Left wing, and the GOP with it&#8217;s Far-Left wing (Neo-Cons are our flaming liberals). <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just glad some Dems have seen the difference and naming the source of the divide problem &#8212; Neo-Cons &#8212; and not the entire conservative spectrum. Traditional conservatives aren&#8217;t war hawks; certainly not into Empire building; and the TC in me smiles every time Hillary talks more like a populist. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Strange for a Dem to hear that a conservative can like a Dem candidate (now I won&#8217;t like everything Hillary is proposing, especially universal healthcare), but remember Dems also liked Reagan, too. Folks vote on candidates that best match their values.</p>
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		<title>By: Uppity</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/14/snob-gate-class-war-and-a-chance-to-redefine-the-party/#comment-191097</link>
		<dc:creator>Uppity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s really interesting. I mean, it is obvious to me that both parties have gotten hijacked by some out of this world extremists. The traditional conservatives even got their name taken away by Social &#039;conservatives&#039;. Democrats are supposed to be &quot;progressives&quot;--and to be honest you can&#039;t get the same definition of that from two democrats. It&#039;s like both parties have been taken over by wild Pod People or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really interesting. I mean, it is obvious to me that both parties have gotten hijacked by some out of this world extremists. The traditional conservatives even got their name taken away by Social &#8216;conservatives&#8217;. Democrats are supposed to be &#8220;progressives&#8221;&#8211;and to be honest you can&#8217;t get the same definition of that from two democrats. It&#8217;s like both parties have been taken over by wild Pod People or something.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisXP</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/14/snob-gate-class-war-and-a-chance-to-redefine-the-party/#comment-191090</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisXP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why are you buying into Pat Buchanan’s talking points?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I do (as I&#039;m a Moderate Traditional conservative), and I&#039;m here supporting Hillary, too.

There&#039;s a lot of Dems that need an education about the different ideologies out there, and not just take the spew for Daily Kos as the gospel.

It wasn&#039;t the Dems that first sounded the alarm about Bush; nor the McCain, it&#039;s been the Traditionals.

Traditional conservatives tie in more with traditional Democrats than what each may not want to admit too. Lou Dobbs is an example of how both sides of the aisle can actually agree, even. Why? Because Traditional conservatism is what referred to as Populism. Like Lou, many Traditionals aren&#039;t GOP party members, either, and are either independent (like myself); stay with the GOP; or joined other political third parties.

It&#039;s how someone who&#039;s quite conservative, can actually cross-over in this election and vote for Hillary, and not as some ploy, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why are you buying into Pat Buchanan’s talking points?</p></blockquote>
<p>I do (as I&#8217;m a Moderate Traditional conservative), and I&#8217;m here supporting Hillary, too.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of Dems that need an education about the different ideologies out there, and not just take the spew for Daily Kos as the gospel.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t the Dems that first sounded the alarm about Bush; nor the McCain, it&#8217;s been the Traditionals.</p>
<p>Traditional conservatives tie in more with traditional Democrats than what each may not want to admit too. Lou Dobbs is an example of how both sides of the aisle can actually agree, even. Why? Because Traditional conservatism is what referred to as Populism. Like Lou, many Traditionals aren&#8217;t GOP party members, either, and are either independent (like myself); stay with the GOP; or joined other political third parties.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s how someone who&#8217;s quite conservative, can actually cross-over in this election and vote for Hillary, and not as some ploy, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Uppity</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/14/snob-gate-class-war-and-a-chance-to-redefine-the-party/#comment-191086</link>
		<dc:creator>Uppity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When somebody has to accuse you of being racist because you refuse to vote for an sexist vapid, lying empty suit, there is something wrong going on here. Who the hell do these people think they are that they can threaten anybody&#039;s vote??? That alone tells you that these people are thugs.

I despise barack obama and I am never going to vote for him regardless of what you call me. At this point, I am sexist. Just like he is. Barack Obama can kiss my ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When somebody has to accuse you of being racist because you refuse to vote for an sexist vapid, lying empty suit, there is something wrong going on here. Who the hell do these people think they are that they can threaten anybody&#8217;s vote??? That alone tells you that these people are thugs.</p>
<p>I despise barack obama and I am never going to vote for him regardless of what you call me. At this point, I am sexist. Just like he is. Barack Obama can kiss my ass.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisXP</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisXP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;8. the first president to vote ‘present’ at a state of the Union speach.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

lololol

And you can guarantee he&#039;ll vote &quot;present&quot; for 3/4 of his candidancy, as he spends his time checking the cost of Eruca sativa at Whole Foods, while drinking French wine, with his 60&#039;s radical terrorist buddies.

Arugula? Freaking Arugula......Jesus......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>8. the first president to vote ‘present’ at a state of the Union speach.</p></blockquote>
<p>lololol</p>
<p>And you can guarantee he&#8217;ll vote &#8220;present&#8221; for 3/4 of his candidancy, as he spends his time checking the cost of Eruca sativa at Whole Foods, while drinking French wine, with his 60&#8217;s radical terrorist buddies.</p>
<p>Arugula? Freaking Arugula&#8230;&#8230;Jesus&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this guy is so bad i do not think even the republicans would want him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this guy is so bad i do not think even the republicans would want him.</p>
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		<title>By: helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hoosier hoops
I am very glad for your family that your son is coming home. God bless you and your family and thank you for your service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hoosier hoops<br />
I am very glad for your family that your son is coming home. God bless you and your family and thank you for your service.</p>
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		<title>By: helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Discussing the Ayers connection, I have a problem with bomb throwers. I was  working in Penn Station NY when a bomb was planted. It could have killed hundreds including me. My four children would have been left without a mother. Since Obama has no problem accepting fundraising from a no class coward what does that say about his judgement and what he thinks of America.</description>
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