Comments on: Barack Obama and the Politics of Violence http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:48:07 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: tan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-1023385 tan Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:55:39 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-1023385 I feel that instead of focussing on the little stuff or the accusations you need to focus on the good that he is trying to provide for the people.I feel that Bush and Obama or two different presidents and one could not compare to the other ones democrat and ones republic. And he as a United States citizan has the right to say what he wants to say without him being compared to Bush or his preacher. I feel that instead of focussing on the little stuff or the accusations you need to focus on the good that he is trying to provide for the people.I feel that Bush and Obama or two different presidents and one could not compare to the other ones democrat and ones republic. And he as a United States citizan has the right to say what he wants to say without him being compared to Bush or his preacher.

]]> By: Palin Says Obama Pals With Terrorists « Quipster http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-848530 Palin Says Obama Pals With Terrorists « Quipster Sun, 05 Oct 2008 05:16:39 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-848530 [...] outstanding job of detailing Ayers’s terrorist activities. Larry Johnson has brought up the Ayers support for Obama’s state senate campaign.  These are both well worth the read, forcibly demonstrating Obama’s poor judgment in [...] [...] outstanding job of detailing Ayers’s terrorist activities. Larry Johnson has brought up the Ayers support for Obama’s state senate campaign.  These are both well worth the read, forcibly demonstrating Obama’s poor judgment in [...]

]]> By: The Independent View » Blog Archive » Selected Readings on Barack and Michelle Obama, William Ayers, and Bernadine Dohrn http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-654772 The Independent View » Blog Archive » Selected Readings on Barack and Michelle Obama, William Ayers, and Bernadine Dohrn Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:57:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-654772 [...] Johnson, Barack Obama and the Politics of Violence, NoQuarterUSA, April 17, [...] [...] Johnson, Barack Obama and the Politics of Violence, NoQuarterUSA, April 17, [...]

]]> By: Eddie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197957 Eddie Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:34:04 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197957 Correction: Amen To all except the new left. Who cares? There are fringes in every direction. As long as they remain on the fringe it is ok. I believe in free speech. (Need to use my specs) Correction:
Amen To all except the new left. Who cares? There are fringes in every direction. As long as they remain on the fringe it is ok. I believe in free speech.

(Need to use my specs)

]]> By: Eddie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197953 Eddie Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:30:19 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197953 Amen To all except the new left. Who cares? There are fringes in every direct. As long as they remain on the fring it is ok. I believe in free speech. Amen To all except the new left. Who cares? There are fringes in every direct. As long as they remain on the fring it is ok. I believe in free speech.

]]> By: beebop http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197908 beebop Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:24:19 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197908 If it is no big deal, and if he is the "positive" player, why bring up the Clinton commutations and call them pardons? Seems to me he should focus on his own negatives and not worry so much on trying to be so cute. It's not really his best move. He's either stupid or just a dirty politician. You don't get to pick the best possible light every time you want to ... it's kind of like saying that he "admired" her when she said she wasn't going to stay home and bake cookies. He threw that out there to raise the issue again, not as a piece of flattery. I mean, after all, she's only "likable enough," right? If it is no big deal, and if he is the “positive” player, why bring up the Clinton commutations and call them pardons? Seems to me he should focus on his own negatives and not worry so much on trying to be so cute. It’s not really his best move.

He’s either stupid or just a dirty politician. You don’t get to pick the best possible light every time you want to … it’s kind of like saying that he “admired” her when she said she wasn’t going to stay home and bake cookies. He threw that out there to raise the issue again, not as a piece of flattery. I mean, after all, she’s only “likable enough,” right?

]]> By: tomchaps http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197905 tomchaps Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:18:00 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197905 Yeah, I mostly agree: I don't think he's unelectable, but I think that some of these associations (Rekzo and Rev. Wright) will make his election much, much more difficult than it would have been. What I object to is lumping Ayers--although he is a more toxic figure than Rezko or Wright--in with them in a "chain of associations." His degree of involvement is an a completely different level. Why do you think the primary is rigged? Who would rig it? Yeah, I mostly agree: I don’t think he’s unelectable, but I think that some of these associations (Rekzo and Rev. Wright) will make his election much, much more difficult than it would have been. What I object to is lumping Ayers–although he is a more toxic figure than Rezko or Wright–in with them in a “chain of associations.” His degree of involvement is an a completely different level.

Why do you think the primary is rigged? Who would rig it?

]]> By: beebop http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197902 beebop Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:14:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197902 I ran into a friend of my sister's on his way to the Cav's playoff game viewing. 46 years old. No war background. Great education. Out of work for two years. Voting Republican for the first time this year. He's the kind of guy who should be building this party, not leaving it. I ran into a friend of my sister’s on his way to the Cav’s playoff game viewing. 46 years old. No war background. Great education. Out of work for two years. Voting Republican for the first time this year. He’s the kind of guy who should be building this party, not leaving it.

]]> By: tomchaps http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197895 tomchaps Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:07:00 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197895 New Left = 1960s student radicals, such as the Students for a Democratic Society. While a few dinosaurs from that era are left (i.e., Ayers), the party as a whole has moved far on, more towards the Clinton-style pragmatism. Don't let internet forum postings skew your view of either party--we (myself included) tend to be more on the edges than the center. New Left = 1960s student radicals, such as the Students for a Democratic Society. While a few dinosaurs from that era are left (i.e., Ayers), the party as a whole has moved far on, more towards the Clinton-style pragmatism.

Don’t let internet forum postings skew your view of either party–we (myself included) tend to be more on the edges than the center.

]]> By: workingclass artist http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197619 workingclass artist Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:22:05 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197619 Tomchaps....It is the chain of associations which are increasingly making this OBAIMPOSTER unelectable in the general and making a big part of the traditional democratic base pissed off...The way this thing is appearing rigged is the reason so many of us show up here. Tomchaps….It is the chain of associations which are increasingly making this OBAIMPOSTER unelectable in the general and making a big part of the traditional democratic base pissed off…The way this thing is appearing rigged is the reason so many of us show up here.

]]> By: tomchaps http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197608 tomchaps Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:11:37 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197608 I don't live in Chicago anymore, but yes, I'm a Democrat. (Aren't we on a site devoted to electing Clinton?) I don’t live in Chicago anymore, but yes, I’m a Democrat. (Aren’t we on a site devoted to electing Clinton?)

]]> By: tomchaps http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197597 tomchaps Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:06:43 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197597 Illinois has a 3% nearly flat tax, and ranks 22nd among states in tax burden. http://www.retirementliving.com/RLtaxburdens.html Illinois has a 3% nearly flat tax, and ranks 22nd among states in tax burden.

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]]> By: tomchaps http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197594 tomchaps Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:03:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197594 Look, I'm obviously not saying that Obama should have anything to do with Ayers or Dorhn. I'm just saying that noone is well-served by overemphasizing the extent or nature of the connection. It is nothing like Rezko or his pastor. He has spoken out against Ayers and the Weather Underground, immediately and forcefully, but in my opinion not forcefully enough. Instead, he's somewhat understandably emphasizing his distance from them and the issue, with his "I was only 8 when it happened" line. His spokesman said: "Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous." The much-ballyhooed meeting at Ayers house happened in 1995, before Obama was elected to anything. He was being introduced by the current state senator from the district (who obviously didn't have a problem with it) as her chosen successor. He wasn't anywhere near running for president at the time, Ayers hadn't published his stupid memoir or made those stupid NYT comments. Since then, they served on an eight-person charity board together, Ayers gave $200 to Obama's reelection campaign, and they were on an academic panel together. That doesn't even rise to the level of "hanging around with", but (as I attempted to show in my earlier post) a reflection of Obama being the state senator from a small district and academic community where Ayers/Dorhn were accepted members of the community. Again, I think the Obama campaign could do a better job emphasizing the "of course Obama loathes what the Weather Underground stands for" than the "what's the deal here?" side of their statement. But I also agree with the "what's the deal here"... Look, I’m obviously not saying that Obama should have anything to do with Ayers or Dorhn. I’m just saying that noone is well-served by overemphasizing the extent or nature of the connection. It is nothing like Rezko or his pastor.

He has spoken out against Ayers and the Weather Underground, immediately and forcefully, but in my opinion not forcefully enough. Instead, he’s somewhat understandably emphasizing his distance from them and the issue, with his “I was only 8 when it happened” line.

His spokesman said: “Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.”

The much-ballyhooed meeting at Ayers house happened in 1995, before Obama was elected to anything. He was being introduced by the current state senator from the district (who obviously didn’t have a problem with it) as her chosen successor. He wasn’t anywhere near running for president at the time, Ayers hadn’t published his stupid memoir or made those stupid NYT comments. Since then, they served on an eight-person charity board together, Ayers gave $200 to Obama’s reelection campaign, and they were on an academic panel together. That doesn’t even rise to the level of “hanging around with”, but (as I attempted to show in my earlier post) a reflection of Obama being the state senator from a small district and academic community where Ayers/Dorhn were accepted members of the community.

Again, I think the Obama campaign could do a better job emphasizing the “of course Obama loathes what the Weather Underground stands for” than the “what’s the deal here?” side of their statement. But I also agree with the “what’s the deal here”…

]]> By: SensibleWoman http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197034 SensibleWoman Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:36:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197034 A little twist to this...a thought entered my mind today about Cuba beginning to gradually allow Cubans a view of the world outside of Cuba via the internet. Could they be hoping their youth sees youth HERE pushing for the Hope & Change nonsense in an effort to make Cuban youth think WE actually would like to have their kind of gov't? A little twist to this…a thought entered my mind today about Cuba beginning to gradually allow Cubans a view of the world outside of Cuba via the internet.

Could they be hoping their youth sees youth HERE pushing for the Hope & Change nonsense in an effort to make Cuban youth think WE actually would like to have their kind of gov’t?

]]> By: Joe http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197030 Joe Sat, 19 Apr 2008 03:34:28 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/barack-obama-and-the-politics-of-violence/#comment-197030 I am blown away by this.....i have never heard any of these complaints before-- I think the media is controlled by his thugs too. If hillary's peeps did that, it would be all over the place. He scares me so much I am blown away by this…..i have never heard any of these complaints before– I think the media is controlled by his thugs too. If hillary’s peeps did that, it would be all over the place. He scares me so much

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