Howard Dean Can’t Take the Suspense
By SusanUnPC on April 17, 2008 at 7:01 PM in Barack Obama, DNC, Florida, Howard Dean, Michigan, Superdelegates
… and Howard Dean can’t stand democracy. Dr. Dean also apparently doesn’t care what the voters of Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Indiana, West Virginia, Oregon, and Puerto Rico, among others, have to say about the nominee in their upcoming primaries:
(CNN)— An increasingly firm Howard Dean told CNN again Thursday that he needs superdelegates to say who they’re for – and “I need them to say who they’re for starting now.”
“We cannot give up two or three months of active campaigning and healing time,” the Democratic National Committee Chairman told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “We’ve got to know who our nominee is.” …
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just sent him an email and will call
they really keep pushing
Im sending more money to Hill
Ive said it before, but it’s worth saying again:
Every time Dean opens his mouth I hear an Independent get their wings-
Dean is like Raglan ordering the Light Brigade to skirmish with the Russian gunners on the causway Heights.
Kos is like meat headed Captain Nolan:
“there are your Guns sir there is your enemy!”
Lucan is Matthews encouraging Cardigan/Obama to charge the guns…the wrong guns, the ones down the Valley.
Obama heads of into the Valley of Death and destroys his own Brigade.
Cargidan survived unscathed and went back to his Yacht for champaign, but he lost 2 thirds of his men and horses.
One of the surving cavalry tyroopers was heard to say:
“Shall we have another go sir?”
yes!
and who will ride back?
not the six hundred!
who will be left?
Pelosi Dean Kerry Kennedy Dashle Hart Bradley
half of them have already faced GE cannons and LOST
if only they would get their cannon fodder axses out of the way so a Clinton can win this thing
yes you are perfect. I hear an Independent get their wings…that’s me.
Yeah lets just screw everyone not just FL and MI.
Dean can go fuck himself.
Thats how I respond to his emails.
Oh and thanks for the contact email for the DNC. I wrote them a note.
Mr. Dean,
It is bad enough that you don’t care what voters in FL and MI have to say, but to want to blow off the remaining primaries so Sen. Obama can win is very wrong. After you and Sen. Obama made sure that Florida didn’t matter I changed my party affiliation to Independent. I will either vote for Sen. Clinton if she’s the nominee or write in Sen. Clinton if she’s not. YOU ARE DAMAGING THE PARTY NOT THE PROCESS.
i told the good doctor to get out our way.
Obama must have contacted Howard Dean to say he is getting antsy. So the Democratic Party’s worst candidate collars the Democratic Party’s worst party chair to say he wants it over now. Does Howard Dean think these tactics are going to bring us all together? Howard you screwed two major states and now you want to screw 10 million people out of their votes to put Obama in. All you have to do is wait and Obama will not be the nominee. Oh I see, the sole purpose of all this pushing is to make Obama the nominee. I get it — and so do millions of Democrats. I hope and pray that Hillary Clinton runs as an Independent to screw Obama out of the presidency.
Dr. Dean wants to lead the party to crashing defeat. It’s his way.
Dean the UBERPUTZ apparently has no patience for DEMOCRACY…Sent him and Donna an e-mail telling them to butt out.
I think he’s so scared of the BOBO the clown crowd that he has the screaming shits. Who knows what kind of terror the good folks in Denver are starting to feel? Anyone can see what the Bobo brats are doing — rattling their sabres — he’s probably convinced that if he f-cks Hillary out of this, there will be sufficient “healing” — i.e. Hillary’s supporters will forgive and forget. He knows that we are not the “burn baby burn” types. So we aren’t the ones who need to be placated. It also gives him time to recover his bowels.
Yep…I’d say he’s wearing a double diaper.
beebop — well Howard Dean is wrong. We are not as childish and stupid as the Obamabots however, we will never forget what Dean has done to our candidate and our party.
Coward Dean is having a panic attack. He knows that people hear names like Ayers on the air. He knows PA is going to crush Obama. His is scared. What makes you think he isn’t threatened too? I mean let’s face it,these people are vile. Coward Dean is afraid. He wants to annoint Obama so that the remaining voters won’t put him where he belongs instead. There is no way to spin damage control on this, so he wants to put it away for Obama. I am sure they have done some polling already. I think he knows OBama would lose but he wants to be the Pontius Pilate and wash his hands. Fear is a horrible thing. I will tell you this, a riot over Obama today is far better than what we will incur with this man in the white house. You can see the way he is thugging his way into this nomination. Very telling. You saw his face last night, did you not? Is this a man you want angry in the white house????
You are correct and it makes me spittin mad….
A riot over Obama?
Children throwing a tantrum?
How quaint.
Time for some perspective, here.
Don’t get yourself Simon. The Children aren’t the Organizers. They are just the pucks. There are plenty more “adult” people behind all of this.
are you deaf or what? you don’t think there won’te riots in the aa community or in denver if precious doesn’t get the nomination? please! and do you think that joe sixpack will vote for this dude? heck no!
Too Many Gods, creating to many men, in to many of their own image.
Uppity; what I saw was a sad, broken, angry man who was dripping misogynistic contempt, for anything he can not covet.
Why he didn’t have all the states have their primary on the same day? If it’s so f**king important that we need to know the result now.
Did you notice that he crawl out of his bat cave a day to pressure the superD after his golden boy did badly in the debate last night? wtf with that.
They are afraid a flood gate will open with more Obama crap washing ashore.
uhhhhh …. November? They still remember what November is right? I mean, there hasn’t been a Democratic winner since the other Clinton, but that shouldn’t be so far in the past that no one remembers WINNING a presidential election, right?
Let the flood gates open and let the truth come out. No one is fooled by what’s going on. Hillary is very serene — therefore, she knows what she is going to do. GO HILL GIVE EM HELL
I think guys like Kerry know it’s over for Obama, understand he will never, can never win the White House.
Narcissistic men can’t admit mistakes, they would rather see the party lose, than admit they were wrong, I see the same thing in the republicans, and the war, ie, they would rather the US fall, than admit they were wrong, and can’t do the job.
I wouldn’t expect any change from the bots, but it sure is interesting watching them spin round and round, trying to get out of this mess, while salvaging some dignity.
Everyone is laughing at you, Obama, and you know, Obama can’t handle it, a typical narcissistic rage, knowing others see him as an incompetent idiot.
Same with Obama’s general, and support teams.
The sound you hear in the background is a flushing toilet. He does know whether to vomit or sit on the porcelin.
I think we need a new name for the party. Dean needs to look up the definition of “democracy.” My dictionary defines it as “Government exercised either directly by the people or through elected representatives.” His definition is “by the DNC and before some of the votes are counted.”
Jeeeeezus….I wish a grown up would just get him outta there….
Your claim here is very unfair to Dr. Dean, Susan. You deliberately left out this part of the CNN article:
(Emphasis mine.)
I quit reading TPM and Daily Kos because I wanted to get away from this type of misleading stuff, period — I didn’t come to No Quarter to see if my fellow Hillary supporters can do it, too. We’re supposed to be better than that.
I disagree with you on that one. H should not be pressuring the SD’s before the primaries. This is manipulation. His nuetrality as well as Donnas are fictions.
Sorry but Dean is so neutral he didn’t vote in the Vermont primary.
Well it isn’t as if he needed to worry who vermont would pick. They are so left their voting booths are located at the edge of cliffs. I don’t think he needed to worry about his vote hurting anyone.
lololol
Did you make that up or is it for real? If it is real then Dean is an even worse party chair than I already thought. What kind of imbicile doesn’t vote in the primary of the party he is the supposed leader of? All the OTHER races on the ballot are of extreme importance. In many cases the primary is the actual election. He may not have voted but he sure as hell isn’t neutral. Him and his committee rigged this freaking election.
Come on. That’s an afterthought he tosses in to make it SEEM like he’s being fair to both candidates.
But what he REALLY wants and thinks is in the first two paragraphs.
(I greatly appreciate your interest in fair reporting, but if you use the link I provided for his name at the top of the story, you’ll see that he has repeatedly tried to force a fast end to the race for quite some time, despite a huge outpouring from those who want the primaries to continue, and to matter. And you’ll see that we have covered his public remarks extensively here.)
Again, your mind reading powers are wasted here. This is called “confirmation bias”: a tendency to search for or interpret new information in a way that confirms one’s preconceptions. You have absolutely no way to tell that the statement is an afterthought, but it plugs in perfectly to your He-Man Howard Haters Club meme.
i read that article today, too. obamaites never have an original thought.
I would have to disagree.
Given Dean’s bias, the disenfranchisement of both FL, and MI, his NOT calling Obama on his anti-democratic, reprehensible tactics, and his personal problems with the Clinton camp, it would appear he is very partisan.
Either that, or he’s a total idiot.
Which do you think it is?
A good leader would have resolved FL and MI, as it is , those states are lost to the democrats, without a Clitnon candidacy.
And the 50 state strategy won’t carry the election for Obama, that is wishful thinking.
He has to be about the poorest leader of the DNC I have ever seen, a “heck of a job brownie.”
And maybe, BSG, you should look at your own bias.
A Northerner who screams, “YEEEEEE HAAAAAW!!” in Iowa, thinking it’ll make him fit in with the locals, is NUTS! Forget being a simple village idiot!
Have a pic I did made in 2004 about Dean, maybe it’s time to dig it up again……
Ehemmmm……..HOWL……LOL
heck of a job, barry!
Well that’s double talk! You say you won’t tell them to end their run and at the same time you pressure superdelegates to choose a candidate. Come on! It’s Duckspeak! “Keep running, Hillary but you already lost before anybody votes because we picked the candidate already”.
Orwell anyone ?
yes, he just got the year wrong (i repeat myself, but i’m old, as obamaites keep telling me).
yeah lifelong…I’m old too. and I’m leaving too.
He’s not treating Hillary fairly. He should not pressure Super D to decide now. And Dean doesn’t follow the rules on this one. The rules say Super D decide at the convention. Not now, not at the end of the primary. At the convention.!
I’ll bet Dean the Putz wishes democrats coldn’t get hold of those pesky rules books…
I find nothing misleading.Telling the super delegates what to do is why people are upset. Dean stating the obvious about when candidates should pull out of the race is trivial and obvious. The quotes are not taken out of context at all.
Donald — Howard Dean is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He wants to remain neutral thats why he refuses to count the votes of 2 major states which are needed by the Democratic Party to win in November. He wants the SD’s to declare now so he can declare a winner with 10 million people still waiting to vote.
Donald — wake up and smell the coffee.
I saw a similar and longer version posted at TM. In that version Dean actually seemed to be saying that it was important to finish the primaries and then have SDs come forward. I think it is important to have a correct take. There was also comment that Dean did not look physically well. Does anyone know if union members from FL are still picketing national DNC hq? What happened in MI today? I understand there was to be a march at the capitol. I think Dean has done a terrible job but I don’t want to paint him with damaging words he did not say.
Dean didnt ‘happen’ to come out TODAY with the words
‘I need the SDs to start deciding NOW’
his golden boy got beat last night and they are running scared of PA and beyond…they don’t want it to be quite SO obvious as they hand the nomination over to Barry to keep Clinton out
they know they cant win a GE with Barry, they have to know by now..
I think they are very mistaken in assuming they will get down ticket voters to keep a handle on Congress
they will have really depressed turnout with supporters of the superior candidate, who don’t take kindly to this bullying and disenfranchising behavior
myself, I’ll go to the polls and stick it to the man, I am after all, bitter
and after this primary season I am no longer sure who The Man is, use to be the GOP, now it looks like it’s my own party..
up i’m bitter also, but i am bittr with dean, brazile, kerry, kennedy, pelosi, reid and the dnc. i have no faith in them and understand why they have lower poll numbers than bush.
when you start with that Dr. Dean bullcrap you give your bias away. Nice try.
What a WATB!
Ironically, Superdelegates were put into place to avoid another McGovern travesty. And now they are not doing their job.
Howard Dean is a big fat loser. Who appointed him as head of DNC anyway?
He needs to resign because he is doing a terrible job.
Can Dean be impeached for incompetence ? Just askin..I mean he’s already being sued.
The liberal bloggers who have trashed Hillary and now say she is not a Democrat are responsibile for bringing us Howard Dean.
So true…..
It’s difficult to tell who is being trolled, I wouldn’t bite on anything.
After a certain point, the game becomes a little more complex than your nearest sports metaphor, but don’t tell Obama, or Bush’s people, they get confused, so easliy.
I missed that part. When questioned by Wolf whether they should vote based on number of states won, delegates, etc. he responded that they should vote their conscience, that is what they are called upon to do. I thought for once he hadn’t stuck his foot in his mouth.
He’s referring to the 2-3 months between Puerto Rico and the convention, not to forgo the remaining contests. Otherwise his comment makes no sense — there are only about 6 weeks left until the last primary.
He has talked about this before. Everyone should get their vote, but after PR let’s wrap it up ASAP.
That would be nice but not what he said.
“I need them to say who they’re for starting now.”
Deany Baby
Starting now. Not ending now. Starting.
Again, what 2-3 months is he referring to if not the ones between June and August? That comment makes absolutely no sense if you interpret it the way you want to.
Yeah…He’s trying to scew the primaries….Mind fuck the Sd’s…Dean is a putz.
You know, I see these moose try to project power, but they are the STUPIDEST men I have ever seen, unable to back it up with anything but narcissism.
They keep losing, but they simply cannot figure it out.
Dr. Dean should be sued for malpractice
I don’t think you are being fair to Susan, Donald. It is impossible to interpret Dean’s comments any other way than as an attempt to close the primary before the states have voted. Saying: “I need them to say who they are for NOW” –undermines anything else he may have said, however reasonable. The superdelegates have the right to wait it out. Nowhere in the rules does it say they have to say at any time before the convention. It is just another disingenuous attempt to try to close the nomination early – this from the guy who punished FL and MI from stepping ahead in line.
If the “line” doesn’t count, why are they being punished for stepping out of line? And if the “line” does count, why is Dean trying to cut it short? If there is damage to the Dem Party if the primary runs this long, then why are these primaries scheduled this late? The question is, is the DNC going to follow its rules or not? Seems they follow the ones they want and ignore the rest and we all know why.
And of all times to make this statement – the day after the first real GE test of a BO candidacy, and BO fails?
Stupid is as stupid does.
Well said, suskin.
I really think he’s on crack. He throws out any chance of winning FL and MI while giving IA, NH, and SC a pass for moving up their primaries in violation of party rules. And now he’s like “we don’t need to know what the rest of the people want, we just need Barry.”
Not surprised. Dean and crew would disenfranchise millions of voters. What other crooked Tammany Hall trick he could push is just icing on the cake.
The Democrat party doesn’t even have to worry about the GOP, the DNC leadership just hands the keys to the bloody shirts, with a smile.
And we wonder about corrupt elections in other countries? Heck, we don’t have to go outside our borders to see the most corrupt political leadership since the 19th century.
Are Dems going to simply take it because the party said so? Or are you going to bang the DNC door down and demand your leadership plays by the rules??!!
Dean looked exhausted, didn’t he?
I wish I had the real inside scoop of the dnc problems.
I would like to think stuff happened that was out of his control
and he’s trying to resolve things ethically.
It just seems like everything is being done to make
Obama the candidate.
Here’s the DNC problem
NO ONE IS GIVING THEM MONEY!
Supporters are contributing to the candidates directly instead of to the party. Get one of the candidates to drop out and their supporters will contribute to the party not the other candidate.
There is a big flaw in that logic.
If he pushed Hillary to drop, her supporters will not donate money to the party. He will just simply close those taps permanently.
not a chance. if they pull this crap, they will get nothing from half the democrats in the country.
i’ve repeatedly told them, every time i get a money solicitation, that they will get zero from me. they’ve gone far enough that it doesn’t matter to me any more what they do - they will never get a dime. my money goes to good candidates only.
the dnc can fuck itself.
Unfortunately, I think they may be pissing just the people that donate money to the party. I know my whole family usually does and we have shut that tap off.
Everytime I get a fund raising email from the DNC, I tell them,” not until FL and MI are counted”. If they short circuit the process, I will leave the party. One of the core Democratic principles is voter rights. If Dean insists on disenfranchising millions of voters and nominating an illegitimate candidate, leaving will be easy. I don’t think they could call themselves Democrats anymore.
Howie wants superdelegates to decide because the longer the primary season goes on, the more likely superdelegates will find a reason to choose Hillary instead of his Chosen One, like Precious’ abysmal performance at last night’s debate.
He’s also trying to manipulate the voters in the upcoming primaries.
The second Dean gives Obama the nomination, I re-register as an Independent and wash my hands of the Democrat party.
I’m not some far leftist loser who agrees with “God Damn America”, that whites are the root of all evil and that Americans are bitter, xenophobic gun nuts who believe in fairy tales.
I’m not bitter.
I’m pissed off!
I’m pissed off at the way Obama and his DailyKos bastards are tearing America down!
OxyCon — If Howard Dean hands Obama the nomination I am done with the Democratic Party too. Seems that Dean and his 50 state strategy has bankrupted the party. But I have to wonder who is behind Obama that had Dean intimidated. This is all so sick.
Hey Howard,
I thought you and Donna were saying that rules were rules, that Michigan and Florida voters should just stuff it, and take it on the chin.
Didn’t your rules also set the primaries till June 10th and the CONVENTION for August?
What happened to those roolz??
You want a speedy determination?? Count Michigan and Florida in. That would work out lots of wrinkles in the process.
Howard makes up rules that suit him and the script he wrote.
What a pathetic jerk ! They are scared Bambi will be exposed as a fraud. Lies after lies after lies.
I’m wondering what the definition of a “deanocracy” is. Is it a political system based on total inefficiency and puffing of the cheeks and blowing hot air? Can such a government survive? Surely it must crumble. That said, I can’t believe the superdelegates would bother listening to him. Isn’t Dean, of all people in this matter, truly a moot issue? I can hardly seem him as the poster child for moral suasion. Nor his sidekick the homophobe Brazile.
Brazile is not a homophobe. I believe I recall hearing her state on one of the Sunday talking head shows (Stephanapolous, I think) that she is in fact a lesbian.
That being said, Dean is indeed a total buffoon and the “neutral” Brazile is obviously a card carrying disciple of The Messiah.
LOL….Fed up do you think she has her special OBAMESSIAH patch sewed to her bra ? She’ll switch to the Brown shirt at the convention.
As a lesbian, does she not consider that she is voting not in her own best interests? I do not know one single gay person who is supporting Obama. They feel that he has not even so much as mentioned any support for them, and that his odd religious background suggests homophobia. Obama has certainly done nothing to dispel those thoughts either.
My kid and I live in an old predominatly “Gay” neighborhood in our city….Hillary signs were everywhere. Overwhelming support for her.
I am of the mindset that people’s sexual orientation is their own business and Donna has never stated publicly that she is a lesbian.
Having said that, she is on record as opposing the comparison of LGBT rights with AA and civil rights. I found several interesting references to email — the woman should drop her Blackberry subscription since it is NOT her friend — that she has sent that makes that abundantly clear. Odonna will probably grow uncharacteristially civil for the balance of the “campaign.” She should. But. As I have pointed out here time and time again, having Odonna on your side is not an endorsement most winners want. Don’t ask her to pick your ponies for ya!
I agree with you….It shouldn’t matter unless you are a FOLEY and a complete HYPOCRITE….I’m not judgin’…I’m just sayin’
I think she did. On CNN.
Of COURSE it doesn’t matter what your sexual orientation is, and of course it is personal. However, in selecting who you vote for as President, it does matter a lot. This is a position that is keey to the unlocking (or locking) of rights. This is a position where opinion rolls downhill, as do votes sometimes. So in that context, it does matter.
Donna Brazile said that including equating the gay movement to the black movement is “an affront to the civil rights movement”. I don’t know what her sexuality is, but she is definitely not a supporter of euqal rights.
Food for thought:
Democratic Convention: August 25-28
GOP Convention: September 1-4
OK, I am going to mark this really simple. Don’t you think GOP is going to have two huge rows of Michigan and Florida delegates complete with balloons and fanfare? They may even take the stage with McCain.
Good luck working against that image, Howard!!
ghost2, i love it!!! i think they should give them a special section, stage presence, a featured speaker, sing them a special song (something dedicated to dean).
maybe they will call out for the disillusioned Dems to join them
-shudder-
sadly, that fool obama and his puppy dean (or is the other way around?) are deluding themselves with the idiotic idea that they can win michigan and florida…maybe they had just a little bit too much cocaine?
As a “courtesy” doesn’t each party normally take a seat when the other is holding its convention? Do you think that if BOBO was the candidate that tradition would hold? He is such a classless kind of a guy that I just can’t imagine him doing anything that would be right and proper.
You are probably right. At this point, Michigan and FLorida are in the bag for the Republicans. Obama could dance nekkid in their streets and the would throw rocks.
Dean is a coward, and I once thought he would be a brave leader for the Democratic Party. He wants the super-delegates to put BO over the top before he would admit the FL and MI delegates. Then he would have effectively nullified the power of those votes in the nomination process, while not excluding them in the final count. It’s essentially the same as BO’s boneheaded proposal to split the delegates 50/50.
I’ve sent my email. I also sent letters to the editor to all of the major newspapers in North Carolina.
dumb question, I suppose, but he actually make that demand? Cant people say hey - catch me in June?
His timing is really suspect here.
Kinda makes you wonder what OBAMESSIAH offered him don’t it ?
No it makes me think more along the lines of threat or riots in the streets. Roland Martin’s words on CNN awhile back have stayed with me. He said Obama had BETTER get the nomination as “his audience” is going to be REALLY angry.
Hmmm…..Well all I can say is that it’s pretty clear to me that Dean the Putz does’nt give a whit about the welfare of either the party or people in general….I think he knows he won’t have a job at the DNC so he’s settin up….You could be right. I think other SD’s are afraid of the Sharpton troops…I just think Dean the Putz might not be.
Shown below is the text of my message to Dean:
Your call for the superdelegates to announce their decisions now is a call to circumvent democracy. You should be ashamed. I’ve voted democrat since 1972. I will now vote Republican and contribute to John McCain. This is your doing.
My email to Dr. Dean,
ROFL! You GO girl!
Sorry for the OT: Sean Hannity, two Democratic strategists, Ari Fleisher (pleh, pleh, same for Sean) and another guy, ripping BO a new one on FOX News.
And getting my nearly 80 year-old mom’s dander up in the process.
I’m just waiting for her to throw a shoe at the TV if she see’s Obama’s face, again! lol
She dislikes Obama with a passion (and you OBAMA IDIOTS WHO CALLED HER A RACIST NEED TO BE WHIPPED WITH HER SHOE!!). >:(
talk about a shared story! LOL
my 83yr OLD MOM!!
same same!
we all throw stuff! lmao!
and my 80 year old Mother. Michele Obama gives her the vapors.
If my mother were here, she would be wild right now. SHe LOVED Hillary.
She’d be right on this board too. She had a laptop she took with her to Florida for the winter so she wouldn’t miss the internet.
Dean sees the illegitimacy conflagration in store for the DNC and the Democratic primary process that he’s overseen, him and Donna Brazile, and he wants the superdelegates to pull his chestnuts out of the fire. To seat the Fl/Mi delegates AFTER the SDs have chosen, presumably The Precious.
He’s a bigger coward than Bwak Bwak.
I’ve heard obama called a lot of things, but you finally nailed it! Remember the slimey crawler in Lord of the Rings, who kept cooing “My Precious”? Think that was obama in his past life and he hasn’t evolved much, has he?
There is a solution to the timeline that Dean suggests and we can handle it in under an hour if he can’t take the suspense and is afraid (of not knowing that OB is the nominee). A debate - Hillary versus the Dean/Brazile team. She destroyed OB, Gibson & Stephanopoulos in less than 2 hours. She can get this taken care of in half hour with these two stooges.
btw reminder for all
Hillary will be on The Colbert Report tonight!
I don’t always watch him but tonight I will for sure. Her appearance on SNL before TX & OH seemed to help. Didn’t it? Or do I have my states mixed up?
HE’S SUPPORTING HRC.
Really????? R U sure?????
If that’s true I’m gonna stay up and watch him EVERY night! (that he’s on!)
how do you know?
And nacho cheese Doritos
LOL Yummmmmm!
I made this assuption because Stewart is and they are often joined at the hip…But I could be wrong. Stewart hates the whole Obamessiah association with Wright/Farrakhan
This, on the other hand, is related: a Congressman who is part of the panel, whose name is something like Kamisch, said that the Democratic leadership is basically in the bag for Obama, that they’re looking the other way, and that they’ll regret that big-time in the fall.
It’s fairly obvious they are looking the other way. It’s also fairly obvious that he won’t win the GE as well.
Ohh and our absentee votes go out in the mail tomorrow! For NC’s primary in May. I feel like delivering it in person but that would defeat the purpose of an absentee ballot. LOL
LOL Keith was so upset he was literally shaking as he spoke to Rachel earlier and I couldn’t help but notice the furrow lines on Maddox’s brow seemed like it’s become a permanent fixture!
I swear she was giving Keith a look of pure pain and misery at the truth of how badly BO’s performance was last night.
what a bunch of terminal dorks
John Kasich, former Ohio congressman. I was close :-J.
If these superdelegates were going to support Obama and shut the process down (disenfranchising millions more) they would have done it prior to Ohio & Texas. This group is holding out precisely because they have serious doubts about Obama.
I would believe at least SOME of them do. I hope you are right and that is true for them ALL!! :-\
precisely because they have serious doubts about Obama.
Especially now.
By now there should be no doubts remaining. BHO has no chance whatever of winning in November.
Bud I just think they want to make it LOOK like they aren’t in the bag for him. That’s why they get nervous when Hillary wins a Pennsylvania or an Ohio. It sets the plan back. Thus, they did the organized “calling” for her to quit. They ARE looking the other way for Obama, but the people won’t be looking the other way in November when all his crap hits the fan.
I wonder if Dean will feel the same after watching Senator Obama flip off Senator Clinton while addressing a young crowd today. I watched it several times before frontpaging it in an article at The Democratic Daily a few minutes ago.
Here’s the link to the post.
i doubt dean cares. no matter what.
looked at the video - they howled in laughter, unless my ears were deceiving me. so looks like the audience got it. he, of course, if anyone calls him on it, will say hillary’s just twisting an innocent hand motion or whatever.
he’s just a childish jerk with very poor manners.
He’s a bot, he did what the mime told him to…
lol.
Someone left a very perceptive comment on my blog about this. The person said the reason he is attractive to young people and chronological adults who never grew up is because he is so sophomoric in his behavior. This “finger” thing is the kind of immature stuff they love.
It comes from years of not paying attention in school and now they wonder why they are still living with mom and dad and working for minimum wage.
That MF.
What a jackass!
i have to tell you the longer this goes on the worse i think of obama. he is such a jerk!
Deans talk to the SD is a threat to them, his use of the word now is as strong a threat as there is! Dean does have certain controls over the re-election of many SD’s, is this a threat like the ones Obamabots are making towards ABC for conducting a debate last night covering character, judgement and platforms? All of which Obama failed on miserably?
Are the Status Quo Democrat Elite getting upset that their choice for candidate is being discovered and is being proven to be a most difficult candidate to sell to the people in a GE?
The media did its job last evening and it managed to produce judgements on both candidates that will come out in the GE, that is the simple line of it! Obama claimed today that it was nothing and just brushed his shoulders off of it, but he did so in NC, while spending mountains of money in PA. The fact of the matter is that when it was asked of Clinton last night if Obama can be elected, she answered yes he can be, but she will be. My dog can be elected POTUS if it is American bred and not a foreign import dog, but Obama has many problems which giving SD’s a forced mesure to decide now and go for Obama, is what Dean is basically saying, is actually giving the GOP 3 additional months of exposing Obama and all Obama’s problems of electability
Last night, the revelation of Auchi was not mentioned, as it came out in court the past 2 days, another lie Obama keeps repeating, and is why Obama considers delving into his personal connections is a distraction, it is not a distraction at all, it is Transparency that the GOP will yield a big stick at!
I have one question to all the kids who are out there making the threats and the garbage over the internet in College Political Science Computer Labs to explain what will they be doing in the fall of 2009 when their parents lose a big chunck of their payroll to pay for Obama’s ill fated plans as he said he’d do last night?
Well said Mel.
i would love to see the parents of all the obamabots who have already graduated from college but are still freeloading CUT THEM OFF! let them learn how it is to have to actually support yourself. maybe then they’d be less careless with the country’s future.
AMEN!
And the didn’t discuss Rezko who we know he had more that casual contact with.
I must add 2 more things to this, Susan or Larry, can you create a blog over this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DygBj4Zw6No
Second, everyone is complaining how last nights debate was 45 minutes of non issue things about what will affect voters!
I have this to simply say on it, had Obama answered directly and simply instead of his long winded non-responses, that segmant could have ended in less than half the time last night! Therefore the time utilized for the so called non-issues was a result of intransparencies of Obama!
I am sure that George and Charles would have liked to have more questions on the economy, but Obama simply has no answers to anything and wastes valueable time with dead air space during the debates and long winded non-answers!
There were no more important questions than the ones directed at BO. We are VETTING him now, a little late, but better late than never. We need to know who he is before we can vote for him, and before we’ll believe what he says about the issues.
Sorry for the long-winded answer :-J.
BHO’s inability to answer simply and directly is the original reason that I didn’t trust him. As each day passes there are more and more reasons he should not be president.
exactly, if the ultra elites really want us to vote our economic interests then I should vote McCant cause Barry’s payroll tax for SS on those making 98k will hurt (and to CNBC Maria Bartiromo and on other occasions he used 72k as his threshold!!)
so maybe they should stop telling we poor dumb base Democrats to use our higher thinking in our votes..
Hillary wisely said yes raise the cap gains but only to 20%, Barry’s gonna whomp us to 35%!! ouch!
he lost ANY GOP crossovers who might have been in a cave for the last month and didn’t hear about Wright or Ayers, then he sold out Pro Choice to gain PA Catholic votes saying we don’t understand the morality and the wrenching feelings of the pro-lifers, oh yeah its a walk in the park for women Barry, and that shot to Coburn isn’t going to get his working across the aisle done either
the whole thing is just sad now really pathetic honestly
I just see Pelosi and the cabal of idiots wanting to keep Congress knowing he will lose but unwilling to go down with a riot at the convention and buckling under
I am letting the SDs in my area now if they want to play that way fine but dont expect me to keep you in either
God wiling some good indies will run…
if they would sell America down the river they need to go too
what have they done about Iraq, Pelosi caved and Dean cant fight his way out of a wet paper bag
I am disgusted with the lot of them, the best candidate Ive seen in my 38 years and they are doing all they can to keep her out when Democrats want her..
The “elites” don’t want us to vote our economic interests. They want us to vote their economic interests.
Totally true. I should be a Republican under those rules too. If I was just voting my economic interests I would want to pay less in taxes. Obama raising the cap would affect me.
If everyone voted their personal economic interests we wouldn’t have social security or medicare because people with good jobs would block it. We vote for these things because we want a decent society that takes care and helps people when they need it. The argument about voting your only on your own economic interests will back fire on Democrats because it is the height of self-centeredness.
God, Dean is so transparent. And did anyone else notice he looked like he had a broomstick up his BO?
This is why I think PA will be a blow out for Hillary.
The comments section of most local papers sometimes can be pretty childish but some times it can give you an idea of how the locals are feeling.
I am in NC and our local paper’s comments on politics is pretty divided between ALL 3 which leads me to believe Hillary and BO will probably tie here (at least in western nc)
Check out these comments from this local PA paper
http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticleComments&ustory_id=e77308db-a880-426e-8505-5447259a488a#8727be09-2116-4429-972b-7ba559b77a18
I’ve never seen one so PRO Hillary before!
I love this part of the quote at the top, Dawnelle:
Hillary Clinton has the experience necessary to achieve her vision Pennsylvania…We want to believe that Sen. Barack Obama can accomplish all he promises….
…but we’re endorsing Clinton & McCain :-J!
I will be very surprised if she is not at least 10 points ahead of him in PA. What kind of voting machines are they using? Not Diebold I hope!
My hometown paper…
http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/041708/let_195336.shtml
And for another peek of what Dems need to understand about their party, on a regional level (that the DNC overlooks and wonders why the hell they lose GEs)…
http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/041208/edi_194696.shtml
Now Billy Bob’s (the Augusta Chronicle’s owner) dad literally K.O. the Cracker machine with his fist — and did a great service to the country in destroying it — so the Republicanism of that paper isn’t your Neo-Con variety. The county still is mainly Democrat to this day (a rarity in a deep red state now), but it’s extremely conservative over religious matters. Don’t care if it’s a white or black church, they’re conservative (how many public school systems do you know that require ALL students to wear a uniform upto high school — and even the college campuses have strict dress codes????).
Most Dems online don’t reflect my upbringing at all (despite I’m pretty liberal by the standards of my locale). And this is true to many more locales. Which tells folks how much the Dems have lost touch with their traditional base of voters (all the way back to Andrew Jackson). It used to be if you could find a Republican in the region, it was just the Augusta Chronicle editor and some cronies. Now, Columbia county (where our Harvard types live) is about 90% Republican.
ALL lost because the Democrat party no longer represents the values of the region.
Get that, Dean? You loser??!!
To win back the Southern vote, Dems will need to do a 180 turn. Keep the Far-Left out, and the roosters will come back to the roost. Until then, this state will remain blood red.
Everyone take the pledge, let Howard Dean know:
We can put a stop to the FL - MI problem. Take the pledge:
“If MI and FL are not brought into the national picture immediately and their votes counted, and if Obama is the Democratic nominee, I will not vote for president in November. If MI and FL are returned to the national picture immediately and their votes counted, then I will vote for the Democratic nominee whomever it is”.
If enough of us take the pledge then Dean has few choices. If he makes the wrong choice then Obama will have no chance to be President. Period. The only chance for Obama and choice for Dean is to bring FL and MI into the equation, now.
The only problem with this scenario is that according to Chris Matthews, “Women will get in line in Nov.” You know those of us who are Hill supporters are too stupid to make a decision for ourselves so we certainly would not be capable of taking a pledge.
they think it’s just words when we say we’ll never support obama.
obama’s words are just words. ours are not. they do not believe us.
they will believe us in november.
actually I WILL vote in November.
and I WILL vote for a candidate on the ballot.
but I WILL NOT vote for Obama.
ditto
As long as the AP keeps churning out hit after hit, no one but us will question Howard Dean over his tactics. To wit: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080417/ap_on_el_pr/women_superdelegates
“WASHINGTON - Some female superdelegates backing Sen. Barack Obama are having their “sisterhood” questioned, just as some black Democrats have been challenged for their endorsement of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
No one has actually accused Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., of betraying her gender in supporting Obama over Clinton in the race for the party’s nomination, but they’ve let her know they’re disappointed.”
AP that if no one is accusing that super delegate of betraying her gender over this, then WTF did you even bother with this story? So… AP, where is the story of the death threats, and threats of losing their seat, for the black SuperDelegates that support Hillary?? Where is the story about Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee being booed because she supports Hillary, and apparently Hillary is the wrong color?
As long as the pring media, which dominates the internet news sites, refuses to be objective, then Howard can continue driving the Party into the ground.
Ohhhhh I saw her on the floor today having to gavel a call to order several times!!
(it was noisy in chambers and she looked a bit befuddled)
I wonder if that is what part of it was about??? R they giving her the cold shoulder? (snicker) oh well Sister turned her back on a fellow Sister when she’s clearly the QUALIFIED candidate. We’ve been fighting that sort of chit for decades! I could never turn my back on a qualified woman candidate! Unless she had some crazy militant preacher who was so close she let him baptize her own children! THEN I’d vote against my Sister! But hey, a Girl has to have SOME standards right? LOL
I can’t even tell you how much I agree with you.
If you mean me? Thanks.
Hey at least they didn’t threaten them like the Black Caucus had to contend with. Arms were twisted very painfully. Take a look at the Honorable Mr. Lewis’ face next time you see him. He’s in pain. He had to switch to Obama and it has aged him.
Yes, and I think about him a lot since seeing the interview with him about that. My heart broke for him when I saw that.
Frankly, I think that Howard is willing to implode the Democratic Party and let Soros and Huffington remake it into an elite (yet lonely) paradise where only the uber hip and painfully PC are welcome. Howard is letting this happen for one reason, and one reason alone. EGO. He is so enamoured with his “50-state strategy” (or is that 48-state?), and is Deanie beanies, and is overidentification with the youth vote, that he is willing to ride Axelrove’s coattails to prove a point. Axelrove teaches the Trippi/Dean strategy in his political classes (scary that he teaches, isn’t it?), and Dean is lapping it up. They want to remake the Party with young voters and AA voters who have previously not participated. Apparently the tent is only so big, so those of us who have been here all along are no longer welcome.
Third Party anyone?
i’ll join immediately.
It’s called INDEPENDENT. The ranks are growing. Every year, these pigs have to suck up to the Independent vote. If you ask me, we should all leave the party and register independent. We will get more respect for SURE then.
uppity, i’m with you. unfortunately, i’m in texas and we don’t register by party. so i have no official way to change my registration. sure wish i had such a way - i’d have done it already.
what i can do is communicate my disgust to the dems/dnc, contribute to hillary, vote against obama and his supporters, and never, ever, give a dime to the dnc. but i would love to make my divorce from the dean’s party official (it’s clearly no longer our party, as he and his pals have staged a coup).
Drives both parties up the wall. No loyalty pledges; no peer pressure; no getting robbed (giving money, and getting zero in return).
I love being independent. Can pick candidates solely on values and issues, without the baggage.
It’s also funny getting mail from both parties, all pandering for a vote. They have to EARN it, first.
Dean has not been fair up to now….why should he get the benefit of the doubt on anything ? I agree with Susan.
Clinton should say screw the party…..3rd party run.
Then what would she do or say to all her delegates she’s proudly won thus far??
Leave the party and follow me?
Nah. She’ll just have to KICK some DONKEY ASS from now until JUNE.
And Dear Dr. Dean will have to write out his OWN script for Xanax while waiting for the SUMMER FUN!!!
ROFLOL!
Oh, I wish, but it won’t ever happen. She’s been in the party too long, and all her connections are dependent on the party itself.
It’s like old Hollywood where the studios literally owned the actors with their contracts.
You are correct….She is representing the New Democrats centrist platform as did Bill and Gore. This about veering left or going back to the center.
My letter….
If Hillary is the nominee, she wins the GE = Dems win.
If Obama is the nominee, he loses the GE, Howard Dean, Donna Brazile and Nancy Pelosi are shown the door = Dems win.
Thanks DNC for making the impossible possible!
hug and kisses
LOVE IT!!!
i sent my own response, but it wasn’t nearly this good.
Here is what I just sent to the DNC:
How dare Howard Dean attempt to foreclose on the remaining primary elections. The candidates are virtually tied, and both need the superdelegates in order to gain the nomination. But the Obama campaign has obstructed the counting of votes in Florida and Michigan, and now Senator Barack Obama himself, in addition to being egregiously unprepared for the presidency–as his disastrous debate performance in Philadelphia showed once again last night–has also rendered himself unfit even to be a candidate for that office, as proved by video footage shot in North Carolina, in which Senator Obama is clearly seen to be directing a well-known obscene gesture toward Senator Hillary Clinton. I can only conclude that the Democratic National Committee wants to lose the presidential election this year. If Senator Obama is the party’s nominee, I will do everything in my power to bring that defeat about–and I am a lifelong Democrat. I am sorry that I ever worked on behalf of Dr. Dean in 2004.
As a candidate, Howard Dean was simply awful. As for his performance as party chairman, I wonder if the Whig Party had a national chairman before their demise. That would be his only competition for worst of the worse. I nominate him for lemming in chief. Under his leadership, we will all be needing parachutes in November.
The DNC set up the election calendar. The DNC was for for that calendar before it was against it.
From here on out Howard Dean will only receive sign language from me. I’m sure he understands my extended middle finger.
funny! scratch your face with your middle finger. naw! maybe not! that is what the annointed is doing in that video.
What the hell, could NOT believe this. Dean is going to be the most unpopular man in this country since Nixon - too bad DNC Chair can’t be impeached.
What happened to: let’s let the voters have their say and then the SuperDelegates should go with the will of the people??? This nomination isn’t being stolen - it’s being THROWN OFF A TRUCK.
WE HAVE GOT TO TAKE A STAND QUICK!
What about NoQuarter starting a PETITION - the rest of us can circulate it all over the net - and link it all back here. Then send it to Fox. I believe they will show it. They are the only MSM on Obama’s case.
NQ - Please respond to above request.
IN THE MEANTIME, Everyone else here who is mad as hell, please come and sign up at:
http://www.writehillaryin.com
I will personally hard copy mail PROTEST to Howard Dean with copies to ALL Super Delegates as soon as we have impressive tally of sign-ins. We’ve got to show that we mean business.
Went to that newslink - it’s a PA college paper - several who comment say: I was an Obama supporter but after last night am voting for Hillary, he looked like he needs “more seasoning”
What the hell, could NOT believe this. Dean is going to be the most unpopular man in this country since Nixon - too bad DNC Chair can’t be impeached.
What happened to: let’s let the voters have their say and then the SuperDelegates should go with the will of the people??? This nomination isn’t being stolen - it’s being THROWN OFF A TRUCK.
WE HAVE GOT TO TAKE A STAND QUICK!
What about NoQuarter starting a PETITION - the rest of us can circulate it all over the net - and link it all back here. Then send it to Fox. I believe they will show it. They are the only MSM on Obama’s case and they’d love to hear how true Dems feel about Dean’s push.
NQ - Please respond to above request.
IN THE MEANTIME, Everyone else here who is mad as hell, please come and sign up at:
http://www.writehillaryin.com
I will personally hard copy mail PROTEST to Howard Dean with copies to ALL Super Delegates as soon as we have impressive tally of sign-ins. We’ve got to show that we mean business.
This can’t be real. What happened to “Let this thing play out.” Let the voters decide! Once you hear Hillary speak there is no turning back. There is no clear winner right now. No one has enough delegates to be the winner. There are upwards of 500 more delgates to be scored. Let the voters decide!
Our primary system needs dramatic overhaul.
I don’t think a candidate should be penalized because the system is badly cobbled together and neglected.
The way this process has dragged on is abusive, inhumane, and prohibitively expensive.
Updating should be a top priority.
But. Since the party does no vetting — they do more checking at a benched dog show — at least we have discovered what a shitty candidate replaced ones you MIGHT have voted for.
Hey, Dean. You are a superdelegate too. Why don’t you take your own advice and quit the “do as I say not as I do” routine. You decide first!
ROFL….Brilliant! Anson.