Breaking: Hillary’s New Ad Counters Obama’s Health Care Attack Ads (Check out that ABC News report)
By SusanUnPC on April 20, 2008 at 1:56 PM in Barack Obama, Health Care, Hillary Clinton, Obama Attack Ads, Pennsylvania
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Go get ‘em, Hillary! Leading in the national polls again! (See video.)
You’re a fighter, and that’s one of your character traits that I most admire, besides the fact that you’ve thought about universal health care plans in far greater detail than your opponent. Yesterday, the Clinton campaign learned about Barack Obama’s false attack ads, running in Pennsylvania, that attacked Hillary’s healthcare plan. |
Numerous leading experts, including the New York Times’s Paul Krugman, say that Hillary’s plan is far better for ALL Americans, and offers true universal health care. (As did John Edwards’ health care plan. But Barack Obama’s plan leaves out millions of Americans.)
Dr. Krugman has also condemned Obama’s previous, false attack ads. Dr. Krugman has further said that, if Obama becomes president — because of the holes in his plan that Republicans can drive straight through — all chance for universal health care will be lost.
That’s right. The Republicans will be able to maneuver Obama out of any meaningful universal health care plan because Obama has already boxed himself in with 1) his poorer plan, and 2) his statements in his attack ads. Don’t believe me? Read Krugman again here and here. It will be tough no matter who’s president but with Hillary, says Krugman, there’s a “chance.”
Here are yesterday’s and today’s press releases:
- “New Obama Attack Ad Features False And Widely Discredited Claims About Hillary’s Health Care Plan” (April 19, 2008), and
- “Hillary Clinton Responds to New Attack Ad Released Today by the Obama Campaign” (April 20, 2008)
Today, Hillary’s campaign has put up a new TV ad to correct the record, and to call out Obama on his false accusations:
FROM TODAY’s press release:
PHILADELPHIA, PA – In response to the Obama campaign continuing to mislead Pennsylvania voters with their negative ad on Hillary’s health care plan, the Clinton campaign today unveiled a new TV ad to set the record straight. The ad, “Answer,” is 30 seconds long and will run statewide.
National Chair of Doctors for Hillary Irwin Redlener and Temple University Associate Professor of Emergency Medicine Dr. David Wald helped unveil the ad today on a conference call, denouncing Senator Obama’s negative ad.
“Senator Obama has once again used a negative and misleading ad about Senator Clinton’s healthcare plan that has been debunked as false repeatedly,” said Dr. Redlener. “As someone who sees the challenges of our healthcare system everyday, we need leadership and action, not negative attacks and empty rhetoric.”
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Following is a script for the ad.
“Answer” (30 seconds)
Hillary Clinton: I’m Hillary Clinton and I approve this message.
Announcer: He couldn’t answer tough questions in the debate. So Barack Obama is making false charges against Hillary’s health care plan. She has a plan everyone can afford. Obama’s will cost taxpayers $1,700 more to cover each new person. Hillary’s plan covers everyone. Obama’s leaves 15 million people out.
Obama’s attacks have been called “destructive and poisoning.”
There are more and more questions about Barack Obama.
Instead of attacking, maybe he should answer them.
I hope to add more critical update information shortly.
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Her commercials are hitting dead-on these days.
Obama seems to be crumbling. Do you think he hired Penn?
Shit, now THAT’s an ad. Crap, I’m donating more money.
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Hope it works, but I have a doubt or two. I’ve been in advertising for a long time, and this commercial has two points, Obama’s problems with answering questions and his false healthcare advertising. You could do a very strong ad on one or the other, but jamming both issues into one spot….well, it’s not exactly a recipe for success. The best spots have a single strong message. More than that, it gets messy in people’s minds.
Maybe her campaign is trying to stretch a buck.
Maybe it will work like gangbusters anyway. Sure hope so.
But it is clearer cause most of these folks also saw the debate. I think it is good. People are too easily drowned at this point. It says what it needs to and is brief.
Normally I would agree. One objective is almost too many for a commercial. And back when I wrote ads, clients would hose themselves by insisting on 5 ideas and the kitchen sink.
But here, I think the two ideas go hand-in hand. Mr. “Fresh Change” is attacking and misrepresenting her.
But I would still LOVE to see a commercial quoting the highly esteemed experts who endorse HRC’s healthplan over B.O.’s, and what they thought of B.O.’s.
blobert: That’s what I thought–it would be much more powerful if she pointed out his negative attacks, but then let the experts speak on behalf of her superior plan. I worry about this kind of ad, because it gives her critics ammo that “she is being negative.” Her plan is better–period. Focus on the power of her innovative ideas, and that will make her look better, and make him look petty.
dark1p, what would you be looking to do in an ad for Hillary?
You’re in a fascinating business. At least I find it fascinating — the creativity + trying to figure out how to reach people.
I’m curious if you watched AMC’s first original dramatic series, “Mad Men,” last summer. Season 2 airs this summer, and I hope AMC replays the first season just before because I would like to watch them all again. (It’s on DVD too.) And, I’m curious what you thought of the portrayal of the ad business in the 1960s.
Since you’re talking about ads, the DNC has put out a great new anti-McCain ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFDc4M_PMNk
That’s great – she should meet BO’s BS with facts at every opportunity.
A little OT, but it’s good news:
“MCCLATCHY-MSNBC-POST-GAZETTE POLL
Working class still solidly for Clinton”
BY STEVEN THOMMA
sthomma@mcclatchydc.com
“WASHINGTON — Hillary Clinton leads among bowlers, gun owners and hunters in Pennsylvania, a blue-collar trifecta that is helping her hold an edge over rival Barack Obama heading into Tuesday’s pivotal primary there.
“The New York senator leads by solid margins in all three slices of working-class Pennsylvania — the political battleground where the two Democrats have waged war for control of the state, according to a new poll conducted for McClatchy, MSNBC and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.”
http://www.miamiherald.com/campaign08/story/502780.html
Pennsylvania is looking solid! Thanks to everyone here for their hard work getting out the good word
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It’s not the Health Care Plan that you start out with that counts, but the one that’s actually ENACTED through compromise that counts. Last time Hillary tried she wound up with BUBKISS, if I recall.
Ah, live and learn.
You know, learning from mistakes, the nation is different, you’re speaking of a different place, a different time.
It’s not like she’s an idiot astroturfer, you know…
During the debate, the most disgusting sense of entitlement was to be seen in BO giving Hillary Clinton very menacing looks. The “twisting the knife” remark is directed at implanting violence in his supporters. I ask you have you ever heard such use of language?
Hey Simon too, you used the work “kooky” and now it is stuck in the brain…
This one’s for you.
I wonder who Lurch is?
Health care?
Lurch just HAS to be John Kerry. David Axelrod has his hand in everything, so he would be Thing. Now how about Uncle Fester? I might add that I will now be humming that tune all night. YOU FIEND!!
I see David Pfouffle as “thing,” something about him just says “active wrist.”
Now Fester, Fester can be Farrakhan, remaking the character as a sort of NOI radical Fester. I would say Wright, but Farrakhan is still more easily recognizable.
Michelle as Mortica?
And what about cousin It, Pugsly, Wednesday and grandmama?
Lurch was John Kerry, if I remember correctly.
I loved that show, as kids, my cousin and I would cut the top off of any cut flowers that were ready for the trash, turn the stems upside down, and arrange them, very nicely, ala Mortica Adams.
We would then behave as if that were perfectly natural, driving my poor parents to extremes.
Eventually, they just gave up, particularly when the Polish Elvis started making appearances at dinner, singing “Hound Dog.”
I suppose we were just letting off teen age steam.
I would have liked to see you ass in shreds if you had tried to implement ANY healthcare proposal to Newt Gingrich.
You people crack me up. Were you, what, four years old when the Harold and Maude Ads went on TV to sabatoge the health care reform?
…sponsored, I might add, but Health Insurers.
We have a more democratic congress now. Furthermore, about thirty million more people are uninsured. Hopefully, we will still have a democratic congress next time around. I kind of wonder considering the DNC is doing so poorly collecting contributions. Can you guess why?
Uppity, you need to remember this will be the first time most of Barrys followers have ever voted for anything besides prom theme. After Barry gets beaten by Hillary or destroyed by McCain they will riot then never vote again.
Yeah … and you’re listening to that last great Democratic candidate, uh, let’s see … John Kerry? Who says that universal health care is a non-starter. I think he’s normally on the platform at these stops with Senator BOBO … or Senator BOOBOO when it comes to healthcare ….
Go apply that standard to The Precious One’s actions in behalf of the Maytag workers, oops, make that ex-Maytag workers, in Illinois or to that wonderful bill he got passed, oops, make that the wonderful bill regulating the nuclear industry he SAID he got passed that didn’t pass at all and that was watered down by the Obamessiah to the point that it was worthless anyway, but the nuke company and the Maytag guys contributed a bunch of money to him, so it all worked out for him, and who cares if the people downwind of the nuke site start glowing green and the former Maytag workers are unemployed? Not Obama.
Yes, let’s blame Hillary because everybody got scared by the Harry and Louise type ads Obama is now using in his campaign. And wasn’t it Mr. Compromise’s leading adviser on the health care program who saw to it that Hillary’s program did not pass?
You Obama followers don’t seem to understand this, but it is important that Hillary Clinton fought for her health care plan; she didn’t just take money like Obama does and then go on vacation or just do nothing. Obama’s motto is not “if at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.” His motto is “just give a speech, take the money, kick back and do nothing — those rubes will never notice.” Well, now we rubes have noticed what a two-faced, do-nothing jackass he is, so he’s falling back on the only strategy he has left (in the absence of any real talent or accomplishments), and that is to lie about Hillary Clinton and her proposals.
It is clear that a national health care program is needed, that Hillary has the best proposal for one, and that Obama, on this issue, as well as on many others, is not capable of providing one. I’m sure this will be quite shocking to Obama, but I suspect there are many in Chicago who need the coverage Hillary’s plan will provide. What’s Obama worried about — that maybe his wife won’t get to keep her stupendously well-paying job as a hospital executive if all the little people actually have access to health care?
And PS — Oprah must be so proud.
Lots of good points, Marcy, but I especially love the one about MO. Talk about being in bed with the health industry :-J.
And I think she addressed that. She’s stated that she lived and learned from that experience. And what she learned is that when negotiating with the Insurance Industry and the Pharmaceutical Companies that you have to have a floor to begin with. Her floor is Universal Health Coverage. Obama’s isn’t. If you start where Obama is, you wind up with ZILCH!
The people who know understand the difference. This is why they are saying that under an Obama administration, nothing will change. And this is what the Insurance people and the Pharmaceutical people want: the status quo.
So much for change!
Try to keep up will you.
If Obama can learn from boneheaded mistakes. So can everybody else with way more experience than his.
We have to be on the road to universal health care. Obama with his statements and campaign tactics have made it impossible for the US to have Universal Health Care discussions for the length of his term in office if he is elected POTUS. Additionally his advisors are fundamentally opposed to universal health care. An Obama presidentcy would mean we would be further away from real health care reform than we are now. The nation and the electorate are ready for this and every politician knows this. The wind is blow on the back of health care reform and we have to strike now.
A patch and sow solution to this problem will only use up political capital that could be used for real change.
Montag: So it’s better not to try at all, as Kerry suggests. She pioneered the entire agenda 15 years ago, before anyone else even dared. Now, all three leading candidates promoted some form of Universal Health Care. She broke the ground, and when she is president, she will follow it to fruition. Bold initiatives rarely get through on the first attempt, and can take years to become a reality. Has the civil rights movement reached it’s goal? Does that mean Martin Luther King failed? Your criticism is small-minded.
I really missed Brazile on George’s show this morning, has she gone underground now?
So everyone ready for Axelrod’s Obamabots t come out saying “see see Clinton is being negative again!”
She’ll be back. Clinton edged out Obama in the national polls. She and Roland will need to arrive bearing fresh threats.
I need rolaids after Roland.
I sent him an email and mistakenly called him Mr. Smith … my oh my he blew MY ears back.
Barack Obama has him some NASTY media support.
I was picturing Dave Marash’s old compadre …
That “in-your-face” attitude of his triggers my index finger to hit the change channel button lickety-split. I can NOT stand his attitude.
Maybe she was practicing her hip-hop moves.
I’m heading over there to make another contribution right now. I just saw the news that Clinton has edged out Obama in the national democratic polls. Perhaps there IS a God. I just know that Obama is not He.
That ABC News video — at the top of the post — shows that she’s now back in the lead in the Gallup national poll. WTG, Hillary.
My guess is that — since 11,000,000 people watched that debate on Wednesday night, and they’ve heard Obama’s elitist remarks — people are realizing that Hillary is far more able, and knows so much more about the issues (very clear in that debate).
Only 11 million? Why, Obama doesn’t need them. He doesn’t need them, or Ialians, or gays or white women, Latinos or Jews seniors, or anybody to win. He has college kids, professors, African Americans, the Obama Girl and Pakistani billionaires to vote for him. See how well that would work out for him. He’s going to wave his magic wand and do Nicey Nicey to us. See how well that works out for him as well, with all his nutcases in the world and on the net having already insulted every other block of voters known to man.
Or women close to 60:
Women in the crowd apparently hissed. He’s a passive-aggressive twit. Not a steady cannon, this one. (BTW: Hillary is 60.)
Jesus. I can’t watch that slimey guy for 5 seconds. Watching him during this campaign and being personally bullied by his freaky supporters has left me completely disgusted. I spit at my screen after listening to him. That’s not good. When it gets to that point, I need to step back. I’ve been infected by their hate.
deep breath….
I am taking deep breaths too :0)
tonight at 900pm EST we are doing a light a candle, positive energy, prayer for Hillary
Please join us!!
A Light for Hillary
http://youtube.com/watch?v=W2OTkU8M2cA
Down loaded a book off the internet….”Obama, The Post Modern Coup” by Winston Griffin Tarpley. WOW WOW WOW!!! Shocking and a real eye opener. Adds alot to ones understanding of what is going on. Above and beyond typical politics. Lulu.com is where I ordered it. Only $5.00 for download. You can get it right away. A main premise was to look at Obama’s advisers and see where he (they) will take us. Obama is a weak person. It ain’t pretty. Brzezinski, a war monger of disgusting proportions…links with Pol Pot, terrorists, and has a Russia phobia hoping to have confrontation with them, Goolsby, Milton Friedman economist who wants to privitize SocSecurity and is a strict market economist, Jeffrey Liebman, Harvard guy who is even more despicable and another guy who believes high cost of health care is a good thing.
Book says that Obama and Deval Patrick are devotees of Zbig since the 80’s and Obama was his manchurian candidate since he was at Columbia at same time…hence Obama is so secretive about his Columbia days. In some ways seems wild but when you read the thing the insights seem spot on. It is saying this is a form of fascism from the left, from the street and when things are going to get so bad, the people that are the powers to be need a charismatic leader that will quell the discontent. he likens to earlier days when Musssolini and Hitler were the darlings of the people, the brown shirts, etc. Very interesting and knowledgable.
Explains how MSNBC became Obama Network and why leftist blogs have become crazy.
Is Tarpley credible? Does anyone know? When I google him, all I get is a list of his books, none of which seemed published.
I don’t know how credible he is, but when I read this book that I downloaded yesterday, I couldn’t put it down. It was so interesting. There was many things that I didn’t know and I then googled these things and everything I googled, checked out from Ind. sources. It makes more sense than anything I have read. He said he originally was opposed to Hillary, but explains the incident that made him so nervous and that he started examing things. He seems to be an intelligence analysist. It is worth the $5 just for the read, but it is mind blowing. Obama is as scary as we think, but couldn’t really put all our fingers on why. Our instincts were all right on. But we didn’t know some more of the facts and the back story.
Alibe I heard of the book but I am a little suspect of it. However if you do a google search and find the biographies of his economic advisors what you said is true. Just avoid the fluff pieces put out by the Obama campaign.
This ain’t no fluff piece about Obama. It flays him wide open. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I am no fool. No way to mistake a fluff piece about Precious.
Good observation Liebman was in Clinton Administration and was pushing for privatization of SS and was pushed out. You missed one Cutler is his advisors for health care issues and is fundamentally opposed to universal Health care. It thinks that the market place can solve the issues of health care coverage and that rationing of the availablity of care is a good thing. All his economic advisors have writings are readily available and why nobody but Paul Krugman has talk about it.
Can you imagine what people would do to get their hands on our Social Security money?
exactly.
when interviewed by Maria Bartiromo on CNBC and asked what he will cut to fund his plans Obama said there are 3 things Govt spends the most money on
Military spending, SS, and Medicare/Medicaid
he also said he planned to raise the payroll cap on SS FICA taxes on wages above 72k not 97k as he danced around it at the recent debate.
link here:
he uses this totally different figure 72k a LOT
that will hit a lot of middle class families……
BARTIROMO: So name three spending programs you would cut to balance the budget.
Sen. OBAMA: Oh, you know, there are probably some weapons programs that I think are not serving our national security interests that need to be examined, and we’ve got to do an audit there. There are reforms that need to be made in our purchasing processes, where–simple things, you know. If we actually made sure that every government employee had a single, you know, debit card or credit card, then negotiated with large purchasers to get the discounts that any other large purchaser would get, we could lop off 10 percent of some of our major purchases by the federal government. Our travel allowances and expenses are a major problem. We could save several billion dollars just in how we set up government travel. So there are a whole bunch of areas where we can make some significant savings.
I will tell you, though, that historically when–you know, the fact is that the federal government primarily spends its money on Social Security, on Medicare and Medicaid, and on defense. And that’s the bulk of our spending.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/23835435/site/14081545/
I just noticed the book listed on this site. I saw this somewhere else. It is the most intriguing and informative book I have read in a great while. Worth a fortune, only cost $5.00 for a download and $15.00 for the book.
Buy It now
See this video on Hot Topics at TM? An LA radio guy announcing an investigation into an allegation of Obama’s arrest when at Occidental. May be nothing, may be something…
FYI
http://www.taylormarsh.com/hot_topics.php#2967
I have been wondering why Barry quit Occidental and transfered to Columbia. An arrest would be a reason that makes sense. His statement about looking for bigger pastures after 2 years is wacky, for the most part. My son went to a small school and transfered after 1 semester to go to a big school. Who do you know who transferred after 2 years for his earlier reason? I am sure it has happened, but very rare. His secrecy aout his college years is spooky. What is he hiding?
And if any of that turns out to be true, what?
Crackheads for Obama?
We already KNEW that…
“We wonder how bad the arrest could have been, if he still got into Columbia and then Harvard after Occidental.”
I’ve had a bug up my butt about Obama regarding his upbringing under a Caucasian mother and her parents and his sudden conversion into a African American political ideology as espoused by Rev. Wright just to name one. Something about that didn’t jibe to me. Here was this biracial kid, raised in Hawaii, no less, where AA presence is neglible. When did he experience racism the way I and other urban AAs know it?
Then I began thinking about Occidential College and him transferring to Columbia after 2 years and how secretive he is about his college years, which is unnatural, to say the least. And then I began remembering about California and the police there and the the stories I’ve heard from various AA males back in the 70s of how the LAPD was particularly rough on them. (This was before the Rodney King incident.) The stories are intense about the way the police in La treat AA males.
Anyway, long before I heard this little recent tidbit, I mused to myself if, perhaps, Barry Obama didn’t have his little ethnic identity bubble burst in L.A. in a circumstance with the racist LAPD. And perhaps that catapualted him into his racial identity as an AA, whcih ultimately wound him at the mentorship of Rev Wright and his church.
So far it sounds like Campus Police. And I’m willing to bet that the incident was not due to any serious wrongdoing on his part. (But I could be wrong.) In any case, if such an incident occured, it explains a whole lot about his mindset. If it’s a racial profiling incident, it will only endear him to AAs and guilt-ridden white liberals, I’m afraid.
But then, why no mention of it? It certainly could solidify his AA creds.
You wonder if he made application because he was arrested but not yet convicted. it would be good time to transfer. And he wouldn’t have the guts to fight it. Wimp. If you transferred before conviction you could in all honesty say you were not convicted of a felony or misdemeanor. How about the Bar though????
I am telephoning PA, and I hope everyone here joins me. It is fun.
his technique of manufactured outrage depends on a deliberate mis-understanding of Hillary’s proposals, her speech and his own ‘interpretation’ of her motives. It’s simply ugly. I dislike even more the way he is dismissive and unpleasant. He reminds me of George’s father when running for veep against Gerry. The more he does this stuff, the more he loses real democrats, party members I mean. These are our values he’s diminishing and distorting. And he’s losing his cross-over pug and libertarian followers with his middle class tax increases. I have no idea what he’s trying to prove with this deception. Maybe too many advertising dollars to spend?
More good news, friends:
Undecided superdelegates don’t feel bound by primaries
By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER – 3 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Many of the Democratic superdelegates who are still undecided say the most important factor in their decision is simple — they just want a winner in November.
Problem is, after nearly four months of primaries and caucuses in 46 states, territories and the District of Columbia, they still aren’t sure who that is, don’t seem be in any hurry to make up their minds and aren’t interested in any artificial process that might force them to choose between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton.
“…AP reporters across the nation contacted the [250] undecideds and asked them how they plan to choose. Of those, 117 agreed to discuss the decision-making process.
_About a third said the most important factor will be the candidate who, they believe, has the best chance of beating Republican John McCain in the general election.
_One in 10 said the biggest factor will be the candidate with the most pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses.
_One in 10 said what matters most is who won their state or congressional district in the primary or caucus.
_The rest cited multiple factors or parochial issues.”
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5huRF3cWlHcz5si9CnwBUQ6S-Ff5QD905MHU80
A good quote from the inside of the article:
“I think it’s really important that we keep our eye on the prize, and the prize is the win in November,” said Gail Rasmussen, an undecided superdelegate from Oregon.
Is it getting lighter up in here, or is it just me :-J?
One of the more intriguing things is Tarpley’s contention that Obama’s campaign has all the markings of a leftist CIA “color” revolution…like the Orange Revolution in the Ukraine. Always with a charismatic telgenic leader, brilliant mob scenes, balcony scenes, rent a mobs, or dupe a mob. Media is in place to swoon over the event and the wonderful leader. Always with a hope and change type motif. Young people are at the core. No specifics. Older voters don’t buy the pie in the sky BS. Talked about the huge amounts of money pumped into Obama’s campaign early. Where did this come from? Talks about how Obama and his supporters oppose impeachment so as to help Obama. He doesn’t want any waves. He is a weak person who will only fight for his victory. Tells of how Obama has never really faced an opponent. His rise has been conviently propelled from???? It appears that the powers that be will own both horses in this race if Obama wins the nomination.
Well, less CIA more Arab guys, like Auchi, Hamas, the whole NOI crowd, right?
Unless the CIA controls their money, too…
check out
this second new Hillary ad!!
it directly addresses the lobbyist ties lies from Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVdWA-wHj90
I think this ad is AWESOME!!!
Especially the change in music at the end!!
is mccain better than bush? so says obama-http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080420/ap_on_el_pr/obama_4;_ylt=AnwEHLdrF1MXFYcOBoxj8wOpg9IF
he has given his blessing for marginalized HRC supporter to vote McCant with that IMO, way to build the party Obama!
The one scary thing about the fear that Obama will win is when he governs in a disasterous way, how will the left be able to hold his feet to the fire? He doesn’t hold us to be his constituency. He will be there to keep us quiet. To accept the horrors around the corner. This is why Bush et al have been so busy constructing this unitarian presidency, totalitarian utopia. They won’t be out of power. If they can keep Hillary from winning the nomination.
Especially since Hillary — several months ago (it was in the Boston Globe) — declared that she would undo Bush’s unitary presidency.
I just got call from my daughter. She is at a Hillary rally in Johnstown. She is sitting right behind Hillary! She is so excited. I told her to tell Hillary I love her. I am ill and could not go. But I went to see her a week ago. How could anyone be so stupid as to vote for that charlatan.
Good thing shes not Asian at an Obama concert.
ROTFL!!!
Any truth to the story from LA about Obama’s arrest while in college?
The radio host will not disclose the sources–need more information on this.
http://www.taylormarsh.com/hot_topics.php#2967
I am sick and f**king tired of this clown. He shows up, they all scream and pump their fist, he spews rhetoric and spits at Hillary. Blah, Blah, Blah,…. NO substance. No plan. No NOTHING. Shady background. No experience.How can so many people be so suckered into this man???
New Pennsylvania poll, via an e-mail I got — Hillary is +13%
Just found this interesting article over at Truth Dig with a link to an LA Times story providing more detail.
Seems Onama’s new way of campaigning is not going over very well in Philly.
“Obama Battles Tradition in Philly”
From Truth Dig: “Obama is expected to do well in Philadelphia, but he’ll need a blowout there to stand a chance of taking the primary from Hillary Clinton, who does much better statewide.
Update: An Obama campaign organizer in Philadelphia tells Truthdig the situation is even less “civil”: “Ward leaders are pretty pissed—a lot of people are. Everywhere we go, we have to tell people that we’re going to do things a little differently, if it means we don’t have yard signs for everyone and their brother, or that we’re not spending as much money in certain areas [as] others, or in the case of Philly, that we’re not paying for canvassers or people to sit at the polls, and every time people tell us it’s impossible to win in ‘their home’ without doing it the way it’s always been done. It’s our job in the face of anger, frustration and dismissive behavior to just keep repeating, ‘Yes we can.’ ”
Link from the LA Times with more.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obamaphilly20apr20,1,1098310.story?page=1
I saw this review and thought it might be helpful. Believe me, I don’t profit, just hoping to get some of this info out and commented on.
Why do we know so little about Obama? Is he the Secret Door to World War for Brzezinski & Co? 15 Apr 2008 (updated 15 Apr 2008)
by John Leonard
Politicians do the opposite of what they promise more often than not. So before you vote, plug your ears to their speeches, and see what policies their advisers advocate.
In “Obama: the Postmodern Coup,” Tarpley gets a giant scoop as the first to delve behind the screen into the forces behind Obama: his policy advisors are far right-wingers! Zbigniew Brzezinski is CEO of the BHO show. For the economy, regressive Skull & Bones and Wall Street figures. In military affairs, it’s Gen. McPeak, the perpetrator of genocidal civilian bombing tactics.
Obama’s backers make a laundry-list of the elite: the Rockefellers, Rand Corp., Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Chicago School of Economics, Bilderbergers – and the Ford Foundation six ways to Sunday. No wonder he gets the lion’s share of the campaign financing from the corporations and a free ride from the corporate media.
All unawares, the United States slipped into the grip of a soft coup last fall, the Brzezinski faction has won over the power elite, and the neo-cons are already lame ducks. Tarpley finds that “Zbig” also controls two of the three front runners for the presidency — Barack Obama and John McCain, but that Obama is the elitist favorite for a facelift to the tottering empire.
Obama is a Brzezinski protegé, scripted in the lofty role of savior, a required figure in the planned hysteria of the “people power” coups perfected by the CIA and NGO’s in Eastern Europe. The recipe has now been brought home to short-circuit America’s political process.
Tarpley should be dean of social sciences in a prestigious university, if they aren’t all funded by Rockefeller and Ford foundations! I have a poli sci degree, but almost all of “Postmodern Coup” was new to me:
- American political history is marked by cycles or “party realignments” of about 36 or 40 years, such as FDR’s 1932 landslide or the upheavals of 1968. A few right-wing strategists like Samuel Huntington know this. They began planning around 1980 to subvert our current cycle shift, first by the War on Terror, now with the synthetic, pseudo-leftist Obama movement, to set the nation on a course they will determine until around 2050.
- The Democrats repeatedly nominate losing presidential candidates with their caucus system, favoring “Volvo-driving” Democrats who decide the primaries in red states, which the Dems don’t win in the GE. Obama continues this tradition of Mondale, Dukakis, McGovern etc., folks who won’t play in Peoria.
- Fascism doesn’t start out as a right-wing, top-down system. How to recognize it in the bud? It begins as a youth movement, often leftist, idealist, mystical, with stirring slogans, euphoria, and a theme of national regeneration. Like Obamania. Mussolini and Hitler both got their start with outwardly leftist laborite parties.
- Why does Obama want to attack Pakistan, the world’s 6th largest country, with almost 3 times more people than Iran, and 6 times more than Iraq? It’s a Chinese ally, and to get at Russia, Brzezinski wants to isolate China, forcing it to attack Russia to get oil. A madcap scheme that will only isolate the US even more.
“Postmodern Coup” is a book with a mission: to stave off the looming world-historical tragedy Tarpley foresees. Yet it’s about much more than “Manchurian candidate” Obama, or even Brzezinski and his earlier puppet, Jimmy Carter. Historian Tarpley draws on an unparalleled store of erudition, past precedents and inside knowledge of today’s political players, and distills it in this book for our up-to-the-minute situation.
It’s a crash course in the essentials you need to know about US and world politics, but the media never wanted you to.
I AM 28
I NEVER HATE ANYBODY IN MY LIFE EVEN THE WORST ENEMIES
BUT THE WAY MEDIA SUPPORTED OBAMA AND TRASHED HILLARY ONLY MADE ME HATE ,,OBAMA,,AND CHRIS MATHEWS,,AND LIST GOES ON ON ON ON ON ON
Believe me, Obama has set the vile tone. His giving her the finger, sticking in the knife and twisting it…etc. He is Mr. Nasty with a smile. Passive aggressive witha nice suit, empty but nice. The nastiness from the media is part of his campaign. We all know his tactic to win was to destroy ths Clintons because they are not corrupt and can’t be bought. He speaks with forked tongue.
Hate?
No, they’ve been exposed as a bunch of mediocre goofs.
People who lack awareness, well, you see them, but they can’t see you.
Usually, they go on to lose wars, so you know what a lot of our enemies see when they look at Bush, or Obama.
And they know how to game them, they have no fear.
What’s to fear, underneath all the gas, they’re fucking idiots.
What the hell is McCain up to?
McCain Rips Obama
Over Radical Ties
Over at fox news
To the democratic elite, like Howard Dean, Fox is not a factor, Fox is just a kooky right wing outlet, with no influence, whatsoever.
Howard Dean is a very very successful man, certain to win the presidency for Obama, and the democrats, in November, if the superdelgates would just declare Obama the god damned winner NOW!
And it’s all Clinton’s fault, all of it.
I mean, how else can he think, given his logic defying decisions, his painful ineptness, and his utter failure as a leader?
The other point being, in real time, McCain is attacking Obama, and quite successfully, all of it, from the bitterness quote, to the overt “he’s a crack smoking terrorist” 527’s that are subliminally playing, somewhere.
And Dean has done NOTHING to defend Obama, left him completely unguarded, unable to even resolve this current issue regarding FL and MI, because he’s so inept, and to do so might hurt Obama’s election chances.
All factors say Dean is in this fight because Obama is the wrong candidate. If there weren’t such strong opposition the parameters of victory would be overwhelming, and the primaries would not be drawing him away from McCain’s attacks, and the RNC. All resources must go toward maintaining Obama’s viability as a candidate, and they are, in the process, destroying any chances Obama might have in the GE. When you think about it, Obama’s candidacy is always on life support, always in the ER for one thing or another.
FL and MI matter, Wright matters, Fox matters, REZKO, and AUCHI matter, the IL combine matters, the charges of drug use, or maybe worse, matter, and Dean is fighting Clinton, rather than reevaluating his golden boy, who, really, looks kinda rough, here.
Dean has his head up his ass, or he’s the worst DNC leader, ever.
But he’d rather hang on to his loser, I guess it’s the George Bush-Dick Cheney Iraq Afghanistan playbook, lose it, and lose it big.
According to electoral-vote.com, if the election were held today between Clinton and McCain or Obama and McCain, this is what we would see:
Clinton 289
McCain 239
Result: President Hillary Clinton
Obama 260
McCain 254
Result: Inconclusive, and rather troubling.
Hillary released these very strong ads today, responding to the recent flurry of negative attacks from the Obama campaign.
Hillary in York, PA today:
“I just heard that my opponent has put up an ad attacking my health care plan, which is kind of curious, because my plan covers everybody and his leaves out 15 million people – just leaves them out in the cold.
“Now, instead of attacking the problem, he chooses to attack my solution.
“I don’t think that we can just make speeches about this – we have to have a plan that we can actually implement that will provide quality affordable health care. That’s what I’ve been fighting for for 15 years, and that’s what I will fight for as your president.”
How politely blunt can one be?
In the first place, today, Danica Patrick is the first woman ever to win an Indy Race. That is a solution.
In the second place, having a plan that includes everyone is a solution.
If one acknowledges that K st. is not going to experience any foreclosures anytime soon, then it comes to reason that EVERYONE needs to work in concert to achieve what is a HUMAN RIGHT.
The wealth of a nation is directly reflected in the health of its people.
Obama IS part of the problem because he has plans that don’t include everyone and is actively using the “politics of destruction” .
What else is a “twisting knife” to think when spoken of in this manner?
1976 Jimmy Carter A Leader, For a Change
1984 Walter Mondale America Needs a Change
http://www.presidentsusa.net/campaignslogans.html
I’ll be trying to find more.
OBAMA WILL BE A LAME AND LAZY PRESIDENT LIKE CARTER
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BEWARE OF BARAK OBAMA
WARNING TO BE PASSED ON
History has witnessed the arrival of zealots who have come to power only by way of the gifts of captivating speech and personal magnetism. Many had no depth of character or other real successes in life and used their barest of talents to overwhelm others and lead good people into hopeless captivity. Some of them are; Joseph Smith(Mormons), Brigham Young (Mormons), Adolph Hitler (Third Reich), David Koresch (Branch Davidians), Jim Jones (People’s Temple ), Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles (Heaven’s Gate) and currently, Warren Jeffs (Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints). Their influences have had the most destructive impact on their followers as well as the societies in which they arose. Thankfully, our country has never elected a president of that kind. Beware of people who wind up in tears at a political speech.
http://makethemaccountable.com/caro/Comment_080420_BarackObamaHasDisrespectedUsAll.htm
When Barack Obama gave Hillary Clinton the finger at a speech last Thursday, he didn’t just demean himself, he demeaned us all. If our political process boils down to rap style disrespect of women, it also disrespects the process. And that means flipping the bird to all of us.
From 1992 to 2007, Bill Clinton was considered “America’s first black president” because he was so popular in the African-American community.
During the earlier debates in 2007, Hillary never did anything negative. There would be no logical reason for her or her campaign to do anything to lose their popularity amongst the African-American community.
During Iowa, the Obama campaign began airing radio ads attacking Hillary’s health care plan, even though Hillary’s plan, like Edwards’ plan, would cover many millions more than Obama’s.
Prior to New Hampshire, Hillary’s share of the African-American vote in this country was still very high.
During New Hampshire, Bill Clinton made his “fairy tale” comment. The comment had nothing to do with race. It had everything to do with Obama’s Iraq policy, and media coverage of it.
The MSM and Obama’s campaign distorted Bill Clinton’s “fairy tale” comment, turning it into an issue about race, when it had nothing to do with race.
During New Hampshire, Hillary spoke the following words – “Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964… It took a president to get it done.” There is no disrespect towards MLK in those words – Hillary’s fondness for MLK is well-documented, and she gave respect to MLK’s dream. But dreams clearly do not become reality if people don’t try to make them become reality, and it was LBJ who signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which outlawed most forms of racial segregation.
Because of the distortion of both the “fairy tale” comment and Hillary’s MLK-LBJ comment, Hillary’s poll numbers in the African-American community plunged. Both the MSM and Obama’s campaign played this for everything they could.
In subsequent weeks, the Obama campaign launched Harry & Louise-like flyers that distorted Hillary’s health care plan, were less than honest about NAFTA, and many other issues. The Clintons had nothing to do with any of these things.
The rest is now history.
Unfortunatrely, the ABC report was mostly about BO. Advertising-wise, HRC should just stick with Obama Lies and keep punching. Keep it to one simple point in each ad. The point is 15 mi9llion people would NOT be covered by BO’s plan. 15 Million! He’s lying to you when he sayus differently.
Of course, this may be all to late for HRC.
BTW, Obama will never be president.
hill all the way
we are loyal supporters of hillary not some judas like bill richardson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GSBTBLDAxo
This video says “two news entities” are investigating a story about Obama being arrested while in college. He doesn’t what Obama was arrested for, or if it was campus police or the LA PD that arrested him.
This would have happened in the early 80s.
We wonder how bad the arrest could have been if he got into Columbia and Harvard after that. Wouldn’t they have turned him down if he was arrested for something really bad?
Who can look into this?
Harvard gave him a “Legacy” spot because his father graduated from there. There would have been no real background checking.
Columbia is the mystery.
Wow. Another good one. I have to collect my thoughts.
1. Obama’s despicable. I literally can’t stand the ‘thing’.
2. I’ve never seen such audacity – to complain and castigate that which he really is, that which all of us know he really is.
3. Brilliant clip. This is the first time I saw the ‘propaganda’ that up close. Migod what a cockroach Obama is. Seriously. Even Rove isn’t this bad. Mostly.
4. I live outside the US and have done so all my life and have enjoyed national health programmes in several countries and I can’t get over how #1) bamboozled; and #2) fucked over the people of the US are. They can’t possibly know the truth because they’ve never been exposed to it. They’re literally funding the lobbying (estimated $1 billion per annum) to keep the horrible health care status quo in place. When Hill calls them ‘predators’ it’s not just because she is wont to use words with more syllables than Obama can confidently handle.
5. The ‘bamboozle’ clip (YuB_W8o_UsU) is brilliant. Gee whiz I didn’t ever before realise how relatively stupid Obama was. Now I know. Who helped him pass his college courses? Seriously. He’s good at being a lying sack of shit as SusanUnPC called it but nothing else what I can see. It’s horrendous.
6. There’s never been any doubt that the ‘change agent’ had a good reason to back away from the Truman/Clinton/Edwards idea of national health. That reason is all the vested interests. Yes he is a traitor but there are of course interest groups who don’t want him promising anything like that. But more: Axelrøve doesn’t want him getting too precise. Getting too precise is a no-no in the post modern Axelrøve political handbook. Campaigns are no longer about policies – they’re about personality cults. Gee whiz really? Who noticed?
7. A lot of the unnecessary – not to say aggravating and destructive – traffic on the Internet, including the blogosphere, Digg, and of course the home away from home for Greek Markos Moulitsas would disappear overnight if only adults in the US would institute proper parental controls on their computers to limit use by minors.
OT (I know i’m always OT) did you see on TM the response From Hillary’s camp to Tom schales from the washingtonpost in response to his article about the awful unfair debate? I like how they aren’t just sitting back
From: Jay Carson
To: [Tom Shales]
Sent: Thu Apr 17 17:59:49 2008
Subject: debates
Tom,
I hope this finds you doing well.
I read your piece with great curiosity this morning especially because I didn’t recall you ever having the same negative reaction to any of the multiple debates where the moderators were extremely tough on senator Clinton (much much tougher than either Stephanopoulos or Gibson were on either candidate last night). I did a lexis search to make sure I hadn’t missed you crying foul about any of these debates and my memory proved me correct. Msnbc was so tough on senator Clinton (including devoting over well over the first hour of two debates to tough questions to senator Clinton) that they were mocked and criticized by many for the imbalance of their coverage, though notably not you. In fact, you found their most recent debate to be “too tame and tepid.”
To be clear, I don’t think it is a bad thing for the press to be tough on presidential candidates (or their staff for that matter). These people are running for president after all, and if you cant handle a tv anchor how should the American people expect you to handle a hostile world leader? My only complaint is when a different standard exists for each candidate, which is the glaring issue with your piece. It is troubling to me that tough on one candidate is deserving of your outrage, and tough on another candidate is fair game, even “too tame.” I would posit that if one is going to be playing referee with media coverage it is all the more important not to have a double standard.
When you get a chance I would appreciate an explanation of how the various debates differed.
Best,
Jay