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		<title>By: world trade center bombing</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-206044</link>
		<dc:creator>world trade center bombing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Catriley</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200871</link>
		<dc:creator>Catriley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>truth is that Obama can't seem to win in the states that have actual voting, rather than caucuses (unless it's his homestate or a state where he's whipped up the race baiting machine.)  

What a freakin' joke this is.  He can't win Ohio, California, Texas, NY, Mass, Penn, NJ, etc. etc. etc.  But Howard &amp; The Elites (I'm thinking of starting a band by that name, catchy huh?)  seem to think that he can pull of a victory in November against McCain (with the GOP attack machine, the 527s, the Obama baggage, and the touchscreen voting.  

Oh.. love that ad by the way. I didn't think it was scary or negative. It's the truth. Duh.  If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, indeed.  Can't I just eat my waffle in peace???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>truth is that Obama can&#8217;t seem to win in the states that have actual voting, rather than caucuses (unless it&#8217;s his homestate or a state where he&#8217;s whipped up the race baiting machine.)  </p>
<p>What a freakin&#8217; joke this is.  He can&#8217;t win Ohio, California, Texas, NY, Mass, Penn, NJ, etc. etc. etc.  But Howard &amp; The Elites (I&#8217;m thinking of starting a band by that name, catchy huh?)  seem to think that he can pull of a victory in November against McCain (with the GOP attack machine, the 527s, the Obama baggage, and the touchscreen voting.  </p>
<p>Oh.. love that ad by the way. I didn&#8217;t think it was scary or negative. It&#8217;s the truth. Duh.  If you can&#8217;t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, indeed.  Can&#8217;t I just eat my waffle in peace???</p>
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		<title>By: Who&#8217;s Bitter Now? (and who&#8217;s race-baiting?) : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who&#8217;s Bitter Now? (and who&#8217;s race-baiting?) : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reasons to Vote for HillaryUppity on Imagine if Wright Were Hillary&#8217;s Pastor &#8230;OBSP on Breaking: New Ad, &#8220;What It Takes&#8221;Uppity on Imagine if Wright Were Hillary&#8217;s Pastor &#8230;Uppity on Imagine if Wright Were [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Reasons to Vote for HillaryUppity on Imagine if Wright Were Hillary&#8217;s Pastor &#8230;OBSP on Breaking: New Ad, &#8220;What It Takes&#8221;Uppity on Imagine if Wright Were Hillary&#8217;s Pastor &#8230;Uppity on Imagine if Wright Were [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OBSP</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200851</link>
		<dc:creator>OBSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know you had to be joking, but this is such bull crap.  Donna Brazilla is an idot, who was in the right place at the right time (running Jesse campaign in 88).  That's why she's in the position she's in today, because she took advantage of what she thought was owed to her.  Black folks were jumping ship like everyone else when Bill showed his wee wee.  This nonsense has to stop!!!  And we as the mature people have to stop the personal shit.  This is Business, like we all do everyday.  Only the person that holds this job holds the future of us with their pen. Obama has had a free ride, we all know this and it is because the Chris Matthews of the word don't want to be perceived as racist.
If we would realize this is about the top progressive bloggers hating Hillary(Huffington left her husband), oh but he was with another man and the Orange Demon hates the DLC (their necessary).  Larry, Taylor and Uppity had to choose sides to try to bring some balance.  But, we have to stop the crap now.
Get off our blogging asses and make some calls to PA Now!!! And, if you have any doubts that we can pull this off, know that I am
OBSP (Official Black Spokesperson)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you had to be joking, but this is such bull crap.  Donna Brazilla is an idot, who was in the right place at the right time (running Jesse campaign in 88).  That&#8217;s why she&#8217;s in the position she&#8217;s in today, because she took advantage of what she thought was owed to her.  Black folks were jumping ship like everyone else when Bill showed his wee wee.  This nonsense has to stop!!!  And we as the mature people have to stop the personal shit.  This is Business, like we all do everyday.  Only the person that holds this job holds the future of us with their pen. Obama has had a free ride, we all know this and it is because the Chris Matthews of the word don&#8217;t want to be perceived as racist.<br />
If we would realize this is about the top progressive bloggers hating Hillary(Huffington left her husband), oh but he was with another man and the Orange Demon hates the DLC (their necessary).  Larry, Taylor and Uppity had to choose sides to try to bring some balance.  But, we have to stop the crap now.<br />
Get off our blogging asses and make some calls to PA Now!!! And, if you have any doubts that we can pull this off, know that I am<br />
OBSP (Official Black Spokesperson)</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200793</link>
		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just heard on NPR that since he spent so much in PA nd will probably lose that it's going to hurt him big as in UNELECTABLE in the GE...Her latest ad has them shaken up pretty bad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just heard on NPR that since he spent so much in PA nd will probably lose that it&#8217;s going to hurt him big as in UNELECTABLE in the GE&#8230;Her latest ad has them shaken up pretty bad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200707</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, and why was he down twenty points just a few weeks ago, if he closed the deal in February, as you say in another post?

Quick, back to the Obamabot 3000-- it's giving you illogical talking points again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, and why was he down twenty points just a few weeks ago, if he closed the deal in February, as you say in another post?</p>
<p>Quick, back to the Obamabot 3000&#8211; it&#8217;s giving you illogical talking points again.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary is the Best</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200661</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary is the Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the comment section of Taylor Marsh they are talking about everyone donating at 4:44 ET. All donations should have end with .44. So, you can donate $5.44, $20.44, $44.44 or whatever you want. The goal is to raise 1 million in one minute (w/o crashing the system).

Please consider donating at 4:44 ET TODAY. Go to
http://www.hillaryclinton.com to donate. 

Please pass this information on. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the comment section of Taylor Marsh they are talking about everyone donating at 4:44 ET. All donations should have end with .44. So, you can donate $5.44, $20.44, $44.44 or whatever you want. The goal is to raise 1 million in one minute (w/o crashing the system).</p>
<p>Please consider donating at 4:44 ET TODAY. Go to<br />
<a href="http://www.hillaryclinton.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hillaryclinton.com</a> to donate. </p>
<p>Please pass this information on. . .</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200660</link>
		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree....I really like the FDR, Truman and JFK references...In PA this wil play well....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree&#8230;.I really like the FDR, Truman and JFK references&#8230;In PA this wil play well&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gringo's Wife</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200652</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gringo's Wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold off counting them chickens ...

They are still coming home to roost for Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold off counting them chickens &#8230;</p>
<p>They are still coming home to roost for Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gringo's Wife</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200647</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gringo's Wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you listened to Limpballs lately?

It's a movement (Must. not. string. Limpballs. and. Movement. Together.) ... I heard the calls confirming they switched to Dem to vote for Hill in PA.

This is going to prove interesting at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you listened to Limpballs lately?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a movement (Must. not. string. Limpballs. and. Movement. Together.) &#8230; I heard the calls confirming they switched to Dem to vote for Hill in PA.</p>
<p>This is going to prove interesting at best.</p>
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		<title>By: sandyR</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200605</link>
		<dc:creator>sandyR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. Denial.  I see a lot of denial about Obama.  Well now we're gonna add to it.  We're gonna deny him the nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. Denial.  I see a lot of denial about Obama.  Well now we&#8217;re gonna add to it.  We&#8217;re gonna deny him the nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary is the Best</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200603</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary is the Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Jeff &#124; 2008-04-21 14:36:34 

“i love her”

Get a room!

WOW ,,IS THAT ALL U GET FROM ,,I LOVE HER ,,,

I LOVE MY MOM
I LOVE MY DAD
I LOVE MY 2 SMALL SONS
I LOVE MY COUNTRY
I LOVE MY BROTHER
I LOVE MY SISTERS
I LOVE GOD
I LOVE MY NEIGHBORS

DO YOU HAVE A ROOM BIG ENOUGH TO FIT ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT I LOVE,,,,,

DO YOU LOVE UR MOM,,AND U TAKE HER UR ROOM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by Jeff | 2008-04-21 14:36:34 </p>
<p>“i love her”</p>
<p>Get a room!</p>
<p>WOW ,,IS THAT ALL U GET FROM ,,I LOVE HER ,,,</p>
<p>I LOVE MY MOM<br />
I LOVE MY DAD<br />
I LOVE MY 2 SMALL SONS<br />
I LOVE MY COUNTRY<br />
I LOVE MY BROTHER<br />
I LOVE MY SISTERS<br />
I LOVE GOD<br />
I LOVE MY NEIGHBORS</p>
<p>DO YOU HAVE A ROOM BIG ENOUGH TO FIT ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT I LOVE,,,,,</p>
<p>DO YOU LOVE UR MOM,,AND U TAKE HER UR ROOM</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary is the Best</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200582</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary is the Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HILLARY IS GONNA BE ON KEITH OLBERMAN,S SHOW TONIGHT 

SO START EMAILING HIM 

SEND A LOT OF LOVE FOR HILLARY 

AND KICK IN HIS BALLS

well that shows ,,her courage and electability 

she is not gonna be a president just for dems but for repubs too 

and she is not gonna be president for the people who voted for her or liked her but also for those who disagree ,,,,,,and she is willing to sit with anyone anyday anytine to discuss issues,,,,

i love her</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HILLARY IS GONNA BE ON KEITH OLBERMAN,S SHOW TONIGHT </p>
<p>SO START EMAILING HIM </p>
<p>SEND A LOT OF LOVE FOR HILLARY </p>
<p>AND KICK IN HIS BALLS</p>
<p>well that shows ,,her courage and electability </p>
<p>she is not gonna be a president just for dems but for repubs too </p>
<p>and she is not gonna be president for the people who voted for her or liked her but also for those who disagree ,,,,,,and she is willing to sit with anyone anyday anytine to discuss issues,,,,</p>
<p>i love her</p>
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		<title>By: sandyR</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200581</link>
		<dc:creator>sandyR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Ms. Brazile, I have a conference call for you from Michigan and Florida...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Ms. Brazile, I have a conference call for you from Michigan and Florida&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary is the Best</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200558</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary is the Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HILLARY IS GONNA BE ON KEITH OLBERMAN,S SHOW TONIGHT 

SO START EMAILING HIM 

SEND A LOT OF LOVE FOR HILLARY 

AND KICK IN HIS BALLS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HILLARY IS GONNA BE ON KEITH OLBERMAN,S SHOW TONIGHT </p>
<p>SO START EMAILING HIM </p>
<p>SEND A LOT OF LOVE FOR HILLARY </p>
<p>AND KICK IN HIS BALLS</p>
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		<title>By: D. Cupples</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200520</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Cupples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT / Just got this in an e-mail / pass it on to your friends:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In the comment section of Taylor Marsh they are talking &lt;strong&gt;about everyone donating at 4:44 ET.&lt;/strong&gt;  All donations should have end with .44.  So, you can donate $5.44, $20.44, $44.44 or whatever you want.  The goal is to raise 1 million in one minute (w/o crashing the system).
 
Please consider donating at 4:44 ET TODAY.  Go to
www.hillaryclinton.com to donate. 
 
I already called my mom in Oregon and told her to donate at 1:44 today.  She says they are being bombarded in Oregon with Obama ads and would love to donate to Hillary again.
 
Please pass this information on. . .&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT / Just got this in an e-mail / pass it on to your friends:</p>
<blockquote><p>In the comment section of Taylor Marsh they are talking <strong>about everyone donating at 4:44 ET.</strong>  All donations should have end with .44.  So, you can donate $5.44, $20.44, $44.44 or whatever you want.  The goal is to raise 1 million in one minute (w/o crashing the system).</p>
<p>Please consider donating at 4:44 ET TODAY.  Go to<br />
<a href="http://www.hillaryclinton.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hillaryclinton.com</a> to donate. </p>
<p>I already called my mom in Oregon and told her to donate at 1:44 today.  She says they are being bombarded in Oregon with Obama ads and would love to donate to Hillary again.</p>
<p>Please pass this information on. . .</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: beebop</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200472</link>
		<dc:creator>beebop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We'll see tomorrow.  "Dems for a Day" should not be evident until November.  And.  That is the &lt;strong&gt;show&lt;/strong&gt;.  She has not built her following on smoke and mirrors.  She knows what states she will not get ... Montana ... Dakotas ... Utah as they are going to go red.  There are just now two ways around that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll see tomorrow.  &#8220;Dems for a Day&#8221; should not be evident until November.  And.  That is the <strong>show</strong>.  She has not built her following on smoke and mirrors.  She knows what states she will not get &#8230; Montana &#8230; Dakotas &#8230; Utah as they are going to go red.  There are just now two ways around that.</p>
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		<title>By: beebop</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200461</link>
		<dc:creator>beebop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing though ... that Gallup poll yesterday showed that she is gaining on him nationally.

How many of those who voted when it was an ill defined "hope and change" hope that the superdelegates will change what has already happened?

No response I see for Michigan and Florida.  It is going to take the Democratic party FOREVER to get those voters back.  If ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing though &#8230; that Gallup poll yesterday showed that she is gaining on him nationally.</p>
<p>How many of those who voted when it was an ill defined &#8220;hope and change&#8221; hope that the superdelegates will change what has already happened?</p>
<p>No response I see for Michigan and Florida.  It is going to take the Democratic party FOREVER to get those voters back.  If ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyn</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200456</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question about ads, like for example th bo ones every where I go, IF you click on them do they have to pay the host site per click or how does that work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question about ads, like for example th bo ones every where I go, IF you click on them do they have to pay the host site per click or how does that work?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/21/breaking-new-ad-what-it-takes/#comment-200449</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;"Given positive press, an enormous lead in fund raising, and a compliant DNC he cannot close the deal."&lt;/em&gt;

He already closed the deal in February.  Your candidate simply won't leave the spotlight.

&lt;em&gt;"You should have big concerns for his candidacy in the general election when his advantages will not be so great."&lt;/em&gt;

You know whose candidacy I would have far greater concern for?  The one who didn't bother to plan or fundraise for any contests after February 5.  Really good strategy there.  The GOP wouldn't &lt;em&gt;know &lt;/em&gt;what to do with them, would they?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Given positive press, an enormous lead in fund raising, and a compliant DNC he cannot close the deal.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>He already closed the deal in February.  Your candidate simply won&#8217;t leave the spotlight.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;You should have big concerns for his candidacy in the general election when his advantages will not be so great.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>You know whose candidacy I would have far greater concern for?  The one who didn&#8217;t bother to plan or fundraise for any contests after February 5.  Really good strategy there.  The GOP wouldn&#8217;t <em>know </em>what to do with them, would they?!</p>
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