Barack, A Certain Loser
By Larry JohnsoncloseAuthor: Larry Johnson
Name: Larry Johnson
Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net
Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net
About: Larry C. Johnson is a former analyst at the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, who moved subsequently in 1989 to the U.S. Department of State, where he served four years as the deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism. He left government service in October 1993 and set up a consulting business. He currently is the co-owner and CEO of BERG Associates, LLC (Business Exposure Reduction Group) and is an expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, and crisis and risk management, and money laundering investigations. Johnson is the founder and main author of No Quarter, a weblog that addresses issues of terrorism and intelligence and politics. NoQuarterUSA was nominated as Best Political Blog of 2008.[1] He has worked as a private consultant on issues of international terrorism and security for the U.S. Government and private companies. Johnson has appeared as a consultant and commentator in many major newspapers and news programs.[2]
Contents [hide]
1 Background
2 Views
2.1 1996
2.2 1998
2.3 1999
2.4 2000
2.5 2001
2.6 2003
2.6.1 Plame affair
2.7 2008
3 Notes
4 References
5 External links
[edit]Background
Larry Johnson moved to Washington, D.C. in 1979 to begin work on a Ph.D. at the American University. Although he completed successfully all coursework and comprehensive exams, he did not write a dissertation. In 1978 and in 1983-85 he worked in Latin America on community development projects as a community organizer. Returning to the United States in 1985 he joined the Central Intelligence Agency, thanks in part to a letter of recommendation from Republican Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) that helped to "open doors" for him at the Agency.[3] Johnson entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985 and was a classmate of Valerie Plame. Every member of that class was undercover. After a year in the Career Trainee program, which included a stint with the Afghan Task Force, Johnson was assigned as an analyst in the Middle America Caribbean Division in the Latin American Affairs Office of the Directorate of Intelligence. He received two Exceptional Performance awards and was promoted ultimately to Senior Regional Analyst for Central America.
Johnson remained undercover in the CIA until October 1989, when he resigned from the CIA and started a new job in the Office of Counter Terrorism at the Department of State. Johnson played an instrumental role in launching the Terrorism Rewards program international advertising campaign (working with Diplomatic Security officers Brad Smith and Michael Parks). [4] Johnson also was involved in a variety of crisis management response operations, including the release of hostages from Lebanon and liaison with the Pan Am 103 families. He left government service in October 1993 and started his own business as a consultant.
After leaving government service, Johnson became a frequent guest on many major television news shows when a question of terrorism came up. He was first interviewed by CNN following the capture of Carlos the Jackal. Johnson subsequently appeared on CNN, ABC's Nightline, CBS, the BBC, MSNBC, the Jim Lehrer News Hour, NBC, and NPR. In December of 1999, for example, Johnson was hired by NBC to serve as its terrorist expert for the Y2000 and was in Time Square with Tom Brokaw and Katie Couric ("a lot of fun and the best way to see in the New Year"). Johnson also was hired in January 2002 as a Fox News Analyst and remained under contract until February 2003.
Since 1994 a significant focus of Johnson's consulting work has been with the U.S. military special operations forces in scripting and conducting military counter terrorism exercises. He traveled under orders from the U.S. military to Iraq in May 2006 to work on a short term project.
A registered Republican who supported President Bush in 2000, Johnson became a strong critic of the Bush administration in May 2003 for its conduct of the war in Iraq and, a few months later, for its role in the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame.[5] He was also featured in the 2004 political documentary Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism. Since Robert Novak's controversial disclosure of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in July 2003, Johnson has contributed to public discourse on intelligence matters, often sparking further controversy. He has been interviewed by both the mass media and the alternative media and published commentaries on a variety of issues, including the Plame affair, the controversy concerning Mary McCarthy, and the resignation of Porter Goss as Director of Central Intelligence.
[edit]Views
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[edit]1996
In 1996, Johnson noted that terrorism worldwide was on the decline. "Terrorist incidents [both internationally and in the US] have fallen to levels not seen since the 1970s. Whether measured by the number of incidents, the number of fatalities, or the number of groups, raw statistics demonstrate that the level of terrorist violence has declined since the mid-1980s. In fact, the evidence suggests terrorism was more widespread and deadly 10 years ago."[6]
He also wrote an op-ed piece for the New York Times suggesting that the newer and more deadly terrorist threat to the U.S. was embodied by "networks of terrorists, mostly foreign, working within its borders." Exemplifying this threat was Ramzi Yousef, one of the masterminds behind the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. In the article, Johnson suggests that enhanced cooperation between intelligence agencies, particularly the FBI and CIA, is mandatory to meet the growing threat of terror networks.[7]
[edit]1998
In 1998, Johnson argued that while overall terrorism was declining, the threat from bin Laden and al-Qaeda should be the focus of American counterterrorism policy:
The nature of the threat posed by Bin Ladin is highlighted by my final chart, number 7. Osama Bin Ladin and individuals associated with him have killed and wounded more Americans than any other group. This chart also illustrates that groups such as Hamas and the Tamil Tigers (LTTE) prior to 1998 have killed more foreigners in the anti-US terrorist attacks. If we take into account the bombings of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Osama's status as the most lethal terrorist is certain.[8]
In addition, he told USA Today that bin Laden had participated in "virtually every major attack of terrorism against the United States" in the 1990s. Johnson underlined the threat posed by bin Laden, saying that he was possessed by "hatred and craziness." If left unanswered, "he would continue to terrorize Americans around the world. He has no compunction about killing women and children. He's a complete egalitarian in his murderous attitude."[9]
[edit]1999
In an interview with PBS's Frontline for its 1999 program, Hunting bin Laden, Johnson discussed Osama bin Laden.[10] According to Johnson, Americans had "tended to make Osama bin Laden sort of a superman in Muslim garb." "Actually," he continues, "Osama bin Laden, in my view, represents more of a symptom of a problem, and the problem is this: the Saudi Arabian government, not just Osama bin Laden but many people in Saudi Arabia, have been sending money to radical Islamic groups for years." Johnson continued:
When you look at who's killed Americans in the last 10 years, the individuals he's supported and backed--I'm basing that upon the initial information that's been released in the indictments and conversations with others in the intelligence communities--Osama bin Laden has been the one killing Americans. No other terrorist group in the world has been out killing Americans except for Osama bin Laden.... Osama bin Laden remains out there as the one really targeting us. So, we recognize that he's the threat. He's serious about wanting to kill Americans, but as long as he's in Afghanistan, as long as he doesn't have access to a cell phone, as long as he can't just hop on a plane and travel wherever he wants without fear of being arrested, his ability to plan and conduct terrorist operations is extremely limited. We have to recognize [that] he would like to do a lot of damage. He would like to kill Americans, but wanting to is different from being able to, having the full capabilities in place.[11]
In the interview, Johnson doubted the ability of members of bin Laden's organization to plan and put their lives on the line:
There's not another Ali or Mustafa out there at this point and Osama bin Laden in my view has not been a very effective organizer or leader. He talks a great game and puts out terrific threats as far as stirring the passions in the United States and maybe firing up the imaginations of some young Muslims throughout the world. But when push comes to shove, can he get a group of people who are together who will say: we are going to plan an operation, we're going to put our lives on the line, we're going to go out and try and kill people and we don't care what the consequence is? It hasn't happened.[12]
Frontline asked:
[Is it] ... fair to say what you're saying is that the president of the United States, his national security advisor, his deputy national security advisor for counter-terrorism, are basically blowing smoke [about the danger posed by bin Laden] and his followers]?
Johnson responded:
They're grossly exaggerating the problem. They are hyping it. They shouldn't be talking about rising terrorism. Instead of saying "terrorism's rising," it's not. "Terrorism is spreading," it's not. "More people are dying from terrorism," not the case. But what they should be saying is, "There's one individual out there that really doesn't like us, and he's made it his mission in life to kill Americans, and we've gotta deal with him." But we need to have a voice of reason in that process instead of putting ourselves out crying wolf, because this is essentially what's taking place right now. They call it the administration that cries wolf.[12]
[edit]2000
Johnson co-authored an article in 2000 with Milt Bearden which focused on the threat posed by al-Qaeda specifically, rather than terrorism trends in general. Beardon and Johnson note that new information emerging about the bombings at Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 points to the threat posed by Imad Mugniyah and Osama Bin Laden will require "a coordinated policy that will employ a full range of covert, clandestine, diplomatic, and military operations," concluding:
The Clinton Administration has shot its bolt on the terrorist problem with small effect, and no last minute show of force will change the record. A new administration can start afresh with a more sharply defined set of terrorism goals – Mughniyeh and bin Laden and their protectors for starters – and bring the full, coordinated force of American diplomatic, military, and intelligence capabilities to bear on the problem.[13]
[edit]2001
After Johnson's testimony to the special forum at the U.S. Senate, Gary J. Schmitt, executive director and CEO of the Project for the New American Century, refers in the Daily Standard (blog) to an op-ed piece Johnson wrote two months prior to the 9/11 attacks, claiming that Johnson argued that the US had little to fear from terrorism.[14]
In an editorial entitled "The Declining Terrorist Threat," published in the New York Times on 10 July 2001, Johnson says:
Judging from news reports and the portrayal of villains in our popular entertainment, Americans are bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism. They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the United States and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal. They are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of terrorists. And they almost certainly have the impression that extremist Islamic groups cause most terrorism.... None of these beliefs are based in fact.... While terrorism is not vanquished, in a world where thousands of nuclear warheads are still aimed across the continents, terrorism is not the biggest security challenge confronting the United States, and it should not be portrayed that way.[15]
Ten days after the 9/11 attacks, after quoting the above passage, Timothy Noah concludes a post in his "Chatterbox" feature at Slate: "Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong."[16] Johnson defended himself against such attacks:
The rightwing is resurrecting an op-ed I wrote in July 2001. I stand by the full article. It is still relevant today. I am accused, incorrectly, of ignoring the threat of terrorism. In fact, I correctly noted that the real threat emanated from Bin Laden and Islamic extremism. President Bush, for his part, ignored the CIA warning in August 2001 that Al Qaeda was posed to strike inside the United States.[17]
After September 11, Johnson appeared several times on FOX News to address the question of military action against terrorism. On 14 November, he defended the FBI's proposal to interview 5,000 students in the U.S. suspected of having information relevant to the September 11 investigations:
I think they should talk to everyone that they feel they have a need to talk to. I mean, look, this is war. This is not a legal proceeding. This isn't the O.J. Simpson trial. The folks that attacked us -- they murdered Americans. And we've got to recognize that in wartime, we should do things differently.[18]
[edit]2003
In January 2003, Johnson wrote an analysis of the relationship between the upcoming U.S. invasion of Iraq and the threat of transnational terrorism. According to Johnson, Bremer's response was to tell him that "it didn't matter what Saddam did or didn't do, we were going to war."[19] The paper warned that an invasion would "do little to destroy the infrastructure of radical Islamic terrorism responsible for the 9-11 attacks." Noting that Saddam Hussein's regime has been a longtime supporter of regional terrorist organizations such as the PLO, Johnson examines contacts between Saddam Hussein and transnational terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda:
There is no doubt that Iraq is a state sponsor of terrorism—i.e., a country that provides financial support, safe haven, training, or weapons and explosives to groups or individuals that carry out terrorist attacks. . . . According to Central Intelligence Agency data, there is no credible evidence implicating Iraq in any mass casualty terrorist attacks since 1991. . . .
Johnson notes that the period immediately leading up to 2003 saw a rise of activity surrounding terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, suggesting that "Iraq is willing to help a movement that it would otherwise oppose on ideological grounds. Nonetheless," Johnson concludes, "it is important to understand that Iraqi entreaties to Al Qaeda, are most likely intended as a tactic to bolster Iraq’s ability to fight off a U.S. invasion rather than a deep-seated theological and ideological commitment to the terrorist agenda of Bin Laden.[20]
In that analysis Johnson also warns that the U.S.-led invasion was likely to backfire:
In fact there is a serious risk that a U.S. led war against Iraq may crystallize the diffused anger in the Arab and Muslim world — a heretofore unattained goal of bin Laden and his followers — and persuade more Muslim youths to take up the terrorist banner against America and her citizens.... If we decide to invade Iraq we must be prepared for the contingency that our attack will inspire young Muslims to pursue jihad against the West in general and the United States in particular. Just as the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan rallied many Muslims, especially young adults to the cause of jihad, a U.S. attack may enable Islamic extremists to attract new followers.[20]
Johnson also gave interviews on the topic of what to do with captured al-Qaeda leaders; while he did not condone torture, he suggested that a "sleep deprivation and reward system" might be useful for getting information from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed:
I don't see a constitutional right to have eight hours of sleep. You shouldn't subject someone to freezing but they don't get to wear mink coats, either.[21]
In May 2003, Johnson joined members of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) in condemning the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes:
It is a misuse and abuse of intelligence. The president was being misled. He was ill served by the folks who are supposed to protect him on this. Whether this was witting or unwitting, I don't know, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.[22]
[edit]Plame affair
After Robert Novak wrote a column identifying the wife of former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson as a CIA officer, the media invited Johnson to comment on the ensuing scandal because he had been a member of the same Career Trainee class with Valerie Plame Wilson. For example, in October 2003, he appeared on Democracy Now to discuss the Plame affair. He told interviewer Amy Goodman that Valerie Wilson's cover should have been respected whether she was an "analyst" or a "cleaning lady": "if she's undercover she's undercover, period. If the media allows themselves to get distracted with those kinds of curve balls, they ignore the issue."[23]
He told a Senate Democratic Policy Committee in October 2003, "My classmates and I have been betrayed. Together, we have kept the secrets of each other's identities a secret for 18 years. Each and every one of us have kept that secret, whether we were in the CIA, in other government service or in the private sector. But this issue is not just about a blown cover. It is about the destruction of the very essence, the core of human intelligence collection activities: plausible deniability, apparently, for partisan domestic political reasons."[24]
Johnson testified at a special joint hearing of Congressional and Senate Democrats on 22 July 2005 about the consequences arising from the Plame affair.[25]
[edit]2008
In 2008, Johnson emerged as a staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton and a strong critic of Barack Obama. Larry Johnson's blog, NoQuarterUSA, became a rally point for Clinton supporters wary of Barack Obama's qualifications to be president. Supporters of Barack Obama insist that a story that first appeared on Johnson's blog--a report that Republican operatives have a tape of Michelle Obama making racially insenstive comments about caucasians--has been "refuted" Barack Obama's Fight the Smears website.[26]. However, Johnson never claimed to have the tape and reported that the Republican operatives controlling it intended to release the tape sometime after the Democratic Convention in August 2008. On October 21, however, he asserted that the operative in possession of the tape had been instructed by the McCain campaign not to release it.[27]
[edit]Notes
^ http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-political-coverage/
^ Larry C. Johnson, "About Me," No Quarter (personal blog).
^ "Former CIA Official Larry Johnson Delivers Democratic Radio Address," transcript posted on official Democratic National Committee's website for The Democratic Party, July 23, 2005], accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Interview with Larry Johnson, confirmed by his supervisor
^ "Ex-CIA official Blasts Bush on Leak of Operative's Name: Democrats' Radio Address Focuses on White House Aides' Role," CNN July 23, 2005, accessed November 21, 2006.
^ Gail Russell Chaddock, "Why Terrorists Pick On the French," Christian Science Monitor (5 December 1996) p. 1.
^ Larry Johnson, "Terrorists Among Us," New York Times (20 August 1996) p. A19.
^ Terrorism Today
^ Lee Michael Katz, "The Hunt for Bin Laden," USA Today (21 August 1998) p. 1A.
^ See Transcript of original interview with Larry C. Johnson, as broadcast on Frontline in 1999. Cf. "Interview: Larry C. Johnson," for Hunting bin Laden, transcript of interview broadcast on Frontline subsequently on 13 April 2001. See also dedicated PBS webpages for media links: Iraq and the War on Terror, Frontline PBS, online featured programs, accessed 19 November 2006.
^ frontline: hunting bin laden: interviews: larry c. johnson | PBS
^ a b [1].
^ As posted in [2].
^ Gary Schmitt, [ 07/25/2005 "Meet Larry Johnson: The CIA official Turned Democratic Spokesman Has a Pre-9/11 Mindset," Daily Standard (blog), July 25, 2005, accessed November 20, 2006.
^ *Larry C. Johnson, "The Declining Terrorist Threat," The New York Times 10 July 2001: A19.
^ Timothy Noah, "(Not Exactly a) Whopper of the Week: Larry C. Johnson," Chatterbox: Gossip, speculation, and scuttlebutt about politics (blog), hosted by Slate September 21, 2001, accessed November 20, 2006. Note the full context of this quotation:
It is, to be sure, a little bit cheap (and slightly at odds with the usual parameters of this feature) to criticize someone for making an erroneous prediction, particularly after a tragedy. Chatterbox is especially reluctant to tag Johnson because Johnson's op-ed was argued forcefully, backed up meticulously with factual data, and bravely at odds with conventional wisdom at the time of its publication. Add in that Johnson now makes his living as a consultant to corporations about terrorism, and therefore had everything to gain by exaggerating the dangers terrorism poses, and the guy practically looks like a hero. Chatterbox, who two decades ago was an editor for the New York Times op-ed page, would have published Johnson's piece had he still been an editor there this past July. In his capacity at Slate, Chatterbox might well have written up Johnson's prediction, and perhaps even endorsed it.
But boy, is he glad he didn't! Johnson's analysis, we now see, was bold, persuasive, and 100 percent wrong. Sadly, a mistake this embarrassing cannot be ignored. As a fellow skeptic, Chatterbox in all sincerity wishes Johnson better luck next time.
^ Larry C. Johnson, "Johnson vs. President Bush," re-posted and updated by SusanHu at DailyKos (blog) July 25, 2005.
^ FOX News Interview with John Garrett (14 November 2001) Transcript #111405cb.260.
^ [3].
^ a b Larry C. Johnson, "Setting the Record Straight on Iraqi Terrorism," posted in Booman Tribune: A Progressive Community (personal blog) 27 January 2003. accessed 19 November 2006.
^ Qtd. in Toby Harnden, "CIA 'pressure' on al-Qa'eda chief," The London Telegraph 5 March 2003: 16.
^ Qtd. in Nicolas D. Kristof, "Save Our Spooks," The New York Times 30 May 2003:A6.
^ Democracy Now (3 October 2003)[4]
^ U.S. Senate, Democratic Policy Committee Meeting on the CIA Operative Leak, (24 October 2003).
^ Letter to the Senate.[Needs full source citation; see "References" section.]
^ Tumulty, Karen (2008-06-12). "Will Obama's Anti-Rumor Plan Work?", Time Magazine. Retrieved on 20 June 2008.:"a story that apparently first made a big splash on the Internet in late May in a post by pro-Hillary Clinton blogger Larry Johnson"
^ Whitey Tape, API, Phil Berg, and Andy MartinSee Authors Posts (1090) on April 22, 2008 at 7:52 PM in Current Affairs
WTF!! I have heard Bob Beckel (so-called Democratic strategist ) on Fox News and Chris “Tweety” Matthews on MSNBC declare the race over. Not the vote in Pennsylvania mind you. Hell, who gives a rat’s ass what people vote for. These media mavens have decided that Barack must be the nominee. When tonight is over Hillary will have crushed Barack. She will have a double digit victory. Despite such a commanding win, these media hacks seem content to ignore what voters have actually decided.
So let me try a variation of the Geraldine Ferraro musing. If Barack were white, would he still be considered a viable candidate in light of the following numbers?
Since Feb. 20, Hillary has won states with 70 electoral College votes representing 48.9 million voters.
OH 20
TX 34
PA 21
RI 04
Obama can brag about Vermont’s 3 electoral votes and its 750,000 voters.
VT 03
How bad does he have to suck before Democratic super delegates realize he cannot win in the fall. Barack has failed (or will do so by midnight tonight) to win New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, Texas, and California? He lost the popular vote among Democrats in the largest population states. And he won’t dare insist on a revote in either Michigan or Florida because he knows he would lose those contests.
Despite not having a significant political victory decided by voters in more than two months, the media and some in the Democratic party are maintaining the fiction that this guy can win in the fall. Republicans are begging Howard Dean to hold the course and coronate the Golden Child. But this much is clear–no white male would get a minute of media attention with a record in competitive elections comparable to what Barack has achieved in the last two months. That ain’t racist. That’s just a fact. Just ask John Edwards.


















Oh don’t worry, AAs will carry him. Latinos don’t count. White men and typical white women don’t count. Gays don’t count. Jews don’t count. Italians don’t count. It’s in the bag!
People close to 60 don’t count.
He’s a CHANGE AGENT.
He’s gonna CHANGE HIS SUIT.
Someday.
Larry–
You are a scream! I love your style. Halli Casser-Jayne
http://thecjpoliticalreport.com
Oh Yes larry…Thrown in the Garlic Noses in Florida..and the Taters in Michigan ..and that adds to those Numbers..Dean is rigging the election for Obama..Guess we Know how far left Dr. Dolittle Dean is..
is dean left or right? I say right.
Ehemmm…….My personal observation is that Dean the Putz is most likely APOLITICAL and lives in a universe of one ( himself ). this is why he so indentifies with OBAMESSIAH ( who I believe is apolitical as well ). This is why Dean he Putz doesn’t give a shit about the party or it’s future. The Party is simply a tool for Dean to shore up his gigantic ego. Whatever OBAMESSIAH spews as to political ideology or platform is a sham and will disappear if elected into office. Look at what GWB did to the GOP cause. Once elected he veered off into a neo-con agenda that is a didaster. What the agenda of Neo-libs is will be equally disaterous.
And your proof is what? If he’s Dr. Dolittle, then you must be Dr. Know-Nothing.
Well..Wonder what the “Rules” will be by then..
1. No talk about Race..
2. No talk about Religion..
3. No Talk about Guns..
4. No Talk about the Wife..
5. No. talk about Supporters..
6. Just talk about Issues..
You Know…The “Monger’”.Vs “he “Messiah..”
“Bread…Not Bullets” “Hope vs the “Dope”
Them kind of “Rules…Add Your Own..
I have been Cleaning up the trailer Park..I’m Tired
All this talk about “women” and “white guys” is making me wonder what happened to the unity and love.
Fabrication, smoke and mirrors.
He tried to pull another rabbit out of the hat and it was empty.
Gays, Jews, Guns, Church goers, Women, White guys, Core Dems, crossover voters, Italians … he’s gonna be real lonely in November.
Youth, AA and clueless elitists for Obama.
The sad truth is that if Obama had taken mostly after his 50% Irish side, we would not be having this conversation. It makes me sad to think of how many AAs believe that he is their savior. Having him in office will not make their lives better, just as having Condi Rice as Sec. of State hasn’t done a thing for the cause.
If Obama, as a community organizer, and as a State Senator, can be obvilivious to the people freezing to death in his own neighborhoods, then why do they think he’ll suddenly care now? The best candidate for voters of ANY race, religion, gender, or orientation, is the one that can deliver the goods.
As a woman, I totally can understand the excitement that having an “AA” candidate must be like for the AA community, because as a woman there is a certain feeling of pride and possibility of having Hillary in the race, as well. But.. I would not support her if she was not the more qualified and reliable candidate. As thrilled as I am to see a female in the race, I was an Edwards supporter first.
You have to pick your president with your HEAD, not your heart. The future of the Country depends on that. A symbolic victory means nothing in the scheme of things — we have to have results IMMEDIATELY.
I am posting this link to the black agenda report: http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=586&Itemid=1
It tells you that AAs are not stupid or ignorant in any respect.
This is just a clip:
“..[]victim of this strange, mass psychosis. Smiley was driven to quit his spot on radio’s syndicated Tom Joyner Morning Show by Obama zealots who have constituted themselves as a mob, sworn to eradicate from the Black public sphere all whose loyalties to the Great One are deemed questionable. The virtual stoning and exile from Black radio of Tavis Smiley is even more grotesque when it is remembered that, just a few years ago, only a handful among Obama’s current legions of Black zealots had even heard of the Chicago politician. It seems like only yesterday that Tavis Smiley, the hyper-energetic Black information entrepreneur, appeared destined for permanent Black icon status, through his many radio, television and print media products. But Smiley violated the Obama mob’s supreme commandment: Thou shalt not question Barack, period.”
And how about the pain on Lewis’ face now?
Poor Tavis. He is such a sweet man. THey have crucified the man.
many voters in recent years have not voted in their own best interest and i include the aa community in that group especially with barry not doing anything for them.
It makes me sad to think of how many AAs believe that he is their savior. Having him in office will not make their lives better, just as having Condi Rice as Sec. of State hasn’t done a thing for the cause.
If Obama, as a community organizer, and as a State Senator, can be obvilivious to the people freezing to death in his own neighborhoods, then why do they think he’ll suddenly care now? The best candidate for voters of ANY race, religion, gender, or orientation, is the one that can deliver the goods.
As a woman, I totally can understand the excitement that having an “AA” candidate must be like for the AA community, because as a woman there is a certain feeling of pride and possibility of having Hillary in the race, as well. But.. I would not support her if she was not the more qualified and reliable candidate. As thrilled as I am to see a female in the race, I was an Edwards supporter first.
You have to pick your president with your HEAD, not your heart. The future of the Country depends on that. A symbolic victory means nothing in the scheme of things — we have to have results IMMEDIATELY.
What to hell?! Do Dean and Brazille really want to loose that WH? Why? Are they closet Repubs or just mightily stupid?
PH, just talking the issues would be a good start on real Democracy.
Hope the trailer park that you and all those people on the south coast are working on works out for you when Mister Hope puts you in for Ophra’s largess.
Oprah got really quiet since her favorables went down afer she traveled with him.
She also was a member of wright’s church but quit.
She also was a member of wright’s church but quit.
Oh yeah!!! She was? Got any links? Talk about dynamite!
As Harold Ford she should be demanding debates with Obama day after day until he submits. He is losing his footing and is not up to the fight. He is weak in debates and the more there are the more the Party will realize that he cannot beat McCain (or anyone).
Agreed.
And it is not good for him to be perceived as even more weak, especially weak to a woman.
Sorry, just the way it is, Clinton had to be very careful about race, Obama had to be careful not to appear effete, afraid of and intimidated by a woman, and they failed.
I mean, I have to wonder what a lot of guys think about Obama’s ability to stand up, his courage, if he can’t even take on Clinton without whining, and backing down, as he did with the finger, and with the debates.
She didn’t say a word, no one from her campaign did, but in retrospect, the more he whines, with every gesture he makes, he looks like pure wuss, afraid of Clinton, afraid of EVERYONE.
(Advance warning of an all caps post. Thank you for your patience.)
DNC! CAN YOU HEAR US YET?! CAN YOU FUCKIN’ HEAR US?!?!?!!
DEAN! CAN YOU HEAR US NOW!?!?!?!? CAN YOU?!?!?!?
DONNA! CAN YOU HEAR US?!?!?!?!
PELOSI! HOW ABOUT YOU!?!?!?! CAN YOU HEAR US YET?!?!?!?!?
Thank you.
And Senator Edwards, now would be good time to come out for Hill.
He gonna stay ouyt of th eway of this mess.
American had itz chance with him.
dear PMS…i hear you and love you!!
those other jerks, Dean and Brazile and Pelosi can’t hear my vote in Fla.. when they refuse to count it and plan on cheating the American people and taking over where the repigs dropped off..by stealing “we the people’s votes”
I was a die hard Edwards supporter..but i will tell you Hillary has so impressed me with her fight , and drive and her stamina..
I went and worked for Edwards in Iowa and SC and i can tell you i was exhusted after each campaign in those states..and in 2004 i was an elected delegate for Florida and was out speaking nightly ..and i can tell you it is exhausting ..she has something i have not seen in a very long time..she has the will to fight for us..she has the strength to fight for us.
I am impressed with Hillary ..and i would have never guessed i would be saying that..
But she has made me fight for her..because i know she is tough and i know i respect her more today..
I congradualte her for a wonderful win Tonight..and the wins of all the big states.
Hillary can win in November..Obama can not and will not!
But more important..i trust Hillary to do right for my children.
I do not trust Obama in any way!
fly
I was going to suggest Howie can’t hear you right now because he’s got his dummy in his ear but I thought better of it. That would be childish.
Karl Rove is reading stats on Fox. Where Obama’s winning he’s winning by small margins.
Yes, she took the suburbs from him and he’s only winning in Philly 55-45
She’s projected for 68 percent of catholics. I was raised a catholic, although I am not one now. But I can tell you they don’t go for whack job fire and brimstone churches at all.
MSNBC IS BASHING HILLARY
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PLS SEND THEN E-MAILS ……
PLS SEND THEM E-MAILS
do you have the best emails for this. i am happy to do so.
letters@msnbc.com email address for MSNBC
Write them and let them know how despicable their coverage is
done! thanks!
Fantastic! I will be donating more tonight after doing so yesterday.
I have put up my first post on Clinton’s win tonight, contextualizing it in terms of the larger nomination contest and giving some idea of what Clinton had to overcome in order to get this Rocky-like victory:
Hillary puts the smackdown on Barack in PA
North Carolina, a “Black Belt” state, is meaningless as it will not be won by Dems in the general election and it over-represents the African-American vote as compared to both the total balance of the state’s electorate and the even more important national electorate. The African-American vote as part of the national electorate is only 11-12%. That’s it. In the Democratic Party, the AA vote is around 25-30%, and in states like South Carolina (where the Obama race-baiting paid off) it is more like 55%. This has allowed Obama to get pretty but statistically irrelevant wins as concerns the general election.
Barack Obama is a ‘niche’ candidate who has gamed the caucus system and played the white guilt card to the hilt. You are now seeing the unraveling of a strawman, as we have tried to tell many of the Kool-Aid drinkers.
Superdelegates, it is time to do what you were created to do: Give us Dems — those who have voted for Clinton over Obama by a majority — a chance in November. Choose Hillary Clinton, or leave us with the second coming of George McGovern and a staggering defeat in November.
Karl Rove (the evil pink-eyed demon) is on Fox tearing down the demographics of who voted for Hillary in Pennsylvania and the statistics are about 60-30 in Hillary’s favor among the areas with the largely “typical bitter small-town white people.” You know, those lovely people who invited New Hampster in to use the bathroom and offered him cookies and lemonade…you know, THOSE horrible Americans who voted for Hillary in California, New York, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania? Karl is practically drooling on his paperwork, he can’t WAIT to get his hands on Obama if he’s the nominee…Please dear Superdelegates, you can be my God for the next 3 months and I’ll pray to you every night, Please God See The Light and vote for Hillary! She’s our only chance (she and Obi-wan…wait, maybe she IS Obi-wan!)
Hey, Howard Dean, how can our nominee win if he didn’t win California, New York, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania?
ahh well Dean is counting on Wyoming..where around 8,000 registered dems showed up to caucus out of 59,000 registered dems..
and Dean and Brazile pissed all over 1.7 + dems in Florida!
the loss is on Pelosi’s table in Nov if Florida is not counted for the nomination..count on that!
fly
sorry that is 1.7+ “million” dems in Florida!! That Dean and Brazile have pissed on!
fly
The presumptive candidate cannot be having this kind of results. He should be gathering strength building coalitions and gathering momentum. But rather than going in that direction his campaign seems to be grasping at straws. In the 2004 campaign after several Kerry wins the votes believed he would be the candidate and his momentum gained speed. In the republican primaries. After several victories by McCain both Rommney’s and Huckabee campaigns fell by the waste side. Vote the voters in PA are saying at the very least we have serious reservations of Obama. Thats the best case senario for his candidacy.
His whole campaign is based upon a couple of coalitions and he has maxed out on them and has to reach out to others which he seems incapable of doing. I just don’t see if he loses Indiana, WVA, Ky, Puerto Rico, but hangs on to close wins in Or and NC how he can make an agrument for getting the nomination. Having said that I think Hillary must win either NC or OR to have a undeniable claim on the nomination.
It’ll be a McGovern size disaster.
And McGovern was a war hero.
ahhh and how about our 27 electoral votes in Florida?????????
oh but CNN keeps telling us that Puerto Rico will be important..well damn it how about my vote in Florida..
why will those who can’t vote in Nov be more important than my vote was???????????
i am so angry..i am boiling over,.and if Donna Brazile gets near me ..well it wouldn’t be pretty..that scummy liar.
i really am in a boil right now..and nothing will cool me down.
fly
Donna B. has got to be REMOVED — from all authority and power. She is BAD news. And she is a LIAR.
Donna B. is a liar.
If she is supporting Obama because he is AA — then she is a racist.
letters@msnbc.com email address for MSNBC
Write them and let them know how despicable their coverage is.
I DID
WHO ELSE DID ???
Please take off your all caps. This is getting really obnoxious … please. It is a little rude.
sorry ,,,
i am not good at tyoing and switching caps and stuff .i will try
thank you
but hey
congratulations .
lets keep on working together
Thank you so much. We will all appreciate it!
i did and was pleased to help. now i’ll go and donate.
more important ..shut them off and keep them off..put them on child block as i did after Iowa..do not let then get a rating from you!! or anyone in your household..they can pick up numbers from your cable box..shut them down!
they ignore your letter and emails..but they can’t ignore your shutting them down!
fly
Exactly. You letters and emails tell them you are still watching their crap. They don’t care if you like what you seeing just as long as you are helping their ratings.
If you want to know what those cretins are saying there are plenty of places on the net to either watch or read about their crap. Don’t help their ratings!
Sorry can’t seem to stop typing “you” when I mean “your” this morning.
We forgive you.
Larry, it is sites as yours which keeps the Hill moving against the odds, and keep the truth out there, wether it is part or wholely, it keeps Obama needing to answer questions that Hill has been vetted on! Keep them going as Indiana is a must win state again!
And Larry, thank you!
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=2208
PLS VOTE ,,
OBAMA SUPPORTERS SAY ,,,HILL WIN MEAN NOTHING ,,50%% NOW
AND $10 FOR EACH POINT OF HILLARY VICTORY
Sort of like Hitler standing in the middle of a bomb crater yelling “NO MORE MR. NICE GUY!”.
Obama spent $8.5 million in PA. Hillary spent $3.2 million. Think about this.
Then he better keep raising more money that her since he needs a whole lot of funding for his loses.
Woo Hoo!!!
Ok I just donated to Hillary…how about you?????????
She needs the $$$ so please dig through your couch for loose change..
and remember I was a big time Edwards supporter..
and i maxed out with Edwards..so if i can donate …please try to donate as well..we must stop Obama!
fly
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gooooooooo for it!!!!!!!!
fly
I sent Ben down to help.
good for you TeakWoodKite..and thank you to Ben!!!!
I am sure Ben helped bring it home for Hillary tonight!!
Huggies to all who helped!!
fly
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/
AND one more link of info and hill supporters friends
PLS JOIN
AND lets all be friends and lets work together to help hillary win in mking our future better for us and our kids
Hillary rocks!!!!
i agree with her about the failure of no child left behind. are you listening, teddy?
Geraldine Ferraro was right.
I cannot believe that after seven plus years of incompetent and corrupt rule by neo-conservative advisor a first term senator who wants to bomb Pakistan and have tea with Raul Castro is being shoved down our throats.
Stunning.
Hillary is awesome. Cheers to the next President of the United States. Now, let’s go make it happen.
would someone put a sock in him….geeze, I have the volume turned down and I am listening to “Simply the Best” for our Hillary…is he almost done????…what the hell is it like if he wins if he is so winded on a loss….stupid arse..
ok i think someone is trying to crash this web site Larry ..i keep getting page can not display..i don’t know if this will post ..but i am trying to get this message to Larry and Susan..
thanks..
fly
me too..having lots of delays and loading problems
ditto
OK I had this before but rebooted. And on my hardware that’s almost never necessary. Things are OK now but yeah I suspect someone is trying something. A ping attack or whatever. Something simplistic, 11-18yo, first time voter type, and stupid. Otherwise things are looking fairly OK again here.
Just sent Howard Dean the following in response to yet another request for money for the DNC:
Hi, Howard,
Nice to hear from you again. You might wonder why I’ve not sent anything in response to your several request for funds, some of them urgent. I’m waiting. I’ll be happy to send you something as soon as the Florida and Michigan delegations are seated. Right now I’m committed to individual Congressional candidates I like (WA-08 looks like a good place) and to my current choice for the Democratic nomination and to support for my own legislative district organization. But I’m holding back something for the national party as well, and you can have it soon, just as soon as the DNC resolves the Michigan and Florida delegation questions satisfactorily. I understand you told David Bender the other day that it would be June. I sure hope so or even earlier because I would love to send you the money.
I sort of feel bad about not fulfilling and exceeding my pledge because I really want to replace the Republicans in the White House and elsewhere, but I have a little principle that’s just nagging at me. It’s that disenfranchising voters is such an evil, nasty Republican thing, I can’t tolerate it for any reason whatsoever, especially in my own party.
Sorry about this, it’s the principle of the thing. I hope to hear again from you soon, and I hope it’s good news about the Michigan and Florida delegations.
Chuck
That is a really good idea. Hold them ransom to seating MI and FLA. Great idea!
I just a got a request for money from the DNC and they’e saying I could provide invaluable help as a volunteer in my state in the GE. Uh, I live in Michigan now they’re saying it’s a battleground and important state - the same DNC is telling me I don’t have a voice despite having voted in our primary. Believe me, I’ll be sending them a letter too.
Hey taters..How are you doing..?? Good Win for Hillary tonight Huh..
The Tenacity of Hillary…
Hey Taters hope all is well with you and yours.
Now that takes the cake! On so many levels.
-Hate to harsh our chill but the NY Times has a disgusting editorial coming out for tomorrow’s paper- Write to them-we just shouldn’t take this any more!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/opinion/23wed1.html?hp
GUYS/GALS
HERE IS THE CONTACT INFO…FOR A REBUTTAL OF THAT RIDICULOUS PIECE BY THOSE IDIOTS AT THE NYT:
LET THEM HAVE IT!!!!!!
NYT INFO
feedback@nytimes.com
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR E-mail to letters@nytimes.com.
OP-ED/EDITORIAL For information on Op-Ed submissions, call (212) 556-1831 or send article to oped@nytimes.com.
To write to the editorial page editor, send to editorial@nytimes.com.
leave a message at 1-888-NYT-NEWS
TO WRITE THE PUBLISHER OR PRESIDENT Arthur Sulzberger Jr., Chairman & Publisher:
publisher@nytimes.com.
Scott H. Heekin-Canedy, President, General Manager
president@nytimes.com.
FAX (registration for members but can’t hurt-someone has to read it!: (646) 698-8081
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/22/ny-times-slams-clintons-negativity/#comments
MAKE SURE TO BLOG
WE HAVE TO SATY BUSY AND DEFEND HILLARY
WE CAN NOT BE QUIET ANYMORE
we must keep e-mailing these stupid media and keep making calls to voters too in indiana
You can also contact John Edwards for President at:
Phone: (919) 636-3131
Fax: (919) 967-3644
Mailing Address:
410 Market Street
Suite 400
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
make him endorse hillary ,,,,,that will help in north carolina
If the DNC does not want to look at the number narrative told by the voters, they should consider the numbers told by the dollars. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, DNC CAN NOT AFFORD THE LUXURY OF A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHO SPENDS MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND WINS ONLY HIS HOME STATE AMONG THE “BIG” ELECTORAL VOTE STATES. Such a candidate sucks up all the cash in the money stream and that will enormously hurt congressional, senatorial and gubernatorial races across this country. GET A CLUE DNC; there won’t be a party in Denver if there are is no money to pay the bills.
GET A CLUE DNC; there won’t be a party in Denver if there are is no money to pay the bills.
When you think about it, it’s really unbelievable. This 2008 election should be a slam dunk after eight years of W. But look what they’ve done - AGAIN.
Unbelievable.
I apologize if someone already made this comment, but from my perspective, the more apt question, Larry, is if Obama were a woman with these numbers, would he still be considered the viable candidate? I really don’t see either question as rhetorical. I see them as jumping off points for some good discussions.
I haven’t declared my allegiance to either candidate because my first two choices were knocked out (Biden and then Edwards), and I am superstitious - don’t want to jinx anybody else. However, I’ve noticed that I am prompted to come to Clinton’s defense more and more frequently because 1. she is the only candidate who has been made to walk through the fire by the so-called “press” consistently and continually from the beginning of this race; and, 2. as an N.C. voter, I want to have a choice in my primary. A voter who wants options … apparently a foreign concept to certain pundits.
No matter what, I can say with certainty that I will not be voting for John McCain.
4dI’ll thingk about it.0x I compleatly disagree with last post . hxi
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