It Ain’t the Color of the Skin, It’s the Thickness
By Larry Johnson on April 22, 2008 at 10:37 AM in Current Affairs
Barack Obama’s supporters, fearing a blowout in Pennsylvania, are already “preparing the battlefield” for the spin war to come tonight. As Susan noted so brilliantly yesterday, the root of the racism that permeates Barack’s campaign resides in fear. A Hillary victory in Pennsylvania today will stoke their fears. They will attribute Barack’s poor showing to racism. You know, “white Americans don’t want to vote for a black man.”
What Barry Obama and his acolytes don’t understand is that today most Americans don’t give a damn about how much melanin you have. The days of Jim Crow are gone. The days of putting people with dark skin at the back of the bus are gone. It is not the norm. It was in the sixties, but the courage of Martin Luther King and other black leaders coupled with the action of white leaders, such as Lyndon Johnson and the Civil Rights Act, helped us start turning a corner on race relations.
Those of us who are over fifty can remember a time when it was unusual to have a black man or woman serve in public office. Blacks weren’t mayors, governors, or senators. But no longer. We don’t just celebrate black entertainers and black athletes. Dr. King’s dream is becoming fact. But Barack and his campaign have tried, with some success, to play the victim card.
He did this the other day when he performed his Jay-Z mime. (See this link for the full story.)
He and his campaign did it in January when they pushed the message that Bill and Hillary Clinton were racists. As reported by Sam Stein at the Huffington Post:
Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign has prepared a detailed memo listing various instances in which it perceived Sen. Hillary Clinton’s campaign to have deliberately played the race card in the Democratic primary. [See the full memo here.]
The memo, which was obtained by the Huffington Post and has been made public elsewhere, is believed to have been given to an activist and contains mostly excerpts from different media reports. It lists the contact info and name of Obama’s South Carolina press secretary, Amaya Smith, and is broken down into five incidents in which either Clinton, her husband Bill, or campaign surrogates made comments that could be interpreted as racially insensitive.
The document provides an indication that, in private, the Obama campaign is seeking to capitalize on the view - and push the narrative - that the Clintons are using race-related issues for political leverage. In public, the Obama campaign has denied that they are trying to propagate such a perception, noting that the document never was sent to the press.
Bill Clinton, whatever his personal faults, has been a leader in trying to erase the remnants of racism from American society. And now, because he has the audacity to fight for his wife’s nomination as President he is vilified by many of Barack’s followers as a Jim Crow, KKK, noose-toting racist. Well, most white folks see thru this nonsense. We are sick of the race card. We don’t want to go back to separate but equal. We just want equal.
Unfortunately, Barack’s campaign pushes the message–sometimes subtlely and sometimes blantantly–that criticism of Barack is racist. If you have dark skin and don’t support Barack you are a self-hating black person. That’s the nonsense that is turning off many American voters.
It is not Barack’s beautiful chocolate skin tone that turns many of us off. It is the realization that he is thin skinned. His reaction to his poor performance at the last debate in Pennsylvania comes off as petulant, whiney, and juvenile. When Hillary confronts her previous tormentors–Richard Mellon Scaife springs to mind–she did not react like the stereotyped bitch the media promotes. Turns out she is gracious, charming, and can laugh at herself. It is these traits–being able to smile and remain calm when you are in the midst of a crisis–that Americans want in their President.
So Barack, you can stick the race card where the sun doesn’t shine. Toughen up and get some callouses. If our challenges to your candidacy chafes your ass, then you are certainly not ready for the bloodsport that is general election. Hopefully the good people of Pennsylvania send a clear message today that you need more seasoning, more grace, and more patience. It has nothing to do with the color of your skin. It has everything to do with you being too thin skinned.























“They will attribute Barack’s poor showing to racism. You know, “white Americans don’t want to vote for a black man.””
I disagree, Larry. It would be suicidal for Barack’s campaign to insult the white voters he will need in the future primaries and the general election by declaring that white people won’t vote for the black man. In fact, if anyone raises that issue, Obama will likely smack it down by saying, “no, white people voted heavily for me in Iowa, Wyoming, Alaska, Kansas, Nebraska, Virginia, etc. So, I don’t think that’s the issue.” He’s not a moron, despite what many here think. He knows he cannot win by alienating white voters in the manner Larry has predicted he will.
He already HAS insulted white voters.
Hello Uppity,
And by serious lack of judgment in his choice of mentors more specifically to me personally being a “typical white person” in two parts: garlic-nosed and whatever derogatory remark his mentors use against my Jewish half.
I was a Hill supporter long before that stuff came out, but I can tell you since it came out, it has strengthened my resolve to help defeat him.
And I try to live a life of equality: I would vote for a black President if and when a seasoned, mature, wise women or man with sound judgment is presented to us. BO is none of those things.
Ciao,
G-N-G
>>> garlic-nosed and …my Jewish half.
Got any sisters?
Ah, a chow hound’s fantasy: a Jewish girl who can (and will) cook.
quite true.
“quite true” was to Uppity’s remark that Obama has already insulted white voters.
I thought that was his game plan, to insult/shame white voters into voting for him.
It’s all about the content of his character.
Zero. Zip. Nada.
Yeah exactly. That’s about all he does. Or QED: wee Barry can’t get these demographics so his tactic - if it exists - must be an utter failure.
You give Obama way too much credit. His blogosphere supporters will call PA white voters racist. NC is coming up. Every time there is a primary with a lot of AA voters, the Obama camp yells racism. They will do it again to galvanize the AA vote in NC.
Of course the question remains for them — “So if Democrats are racists, you think independents and swing Republicans won’t be in the GE? Really? You think only white Democrats are racist? You think you can get the white vote against McCain? Say that again?”
thing that they don’t realize is it’s also going to galvanize the white vote in NC. I don’t consider NC to have a large black population, everything that I have seen indicates in the 20 to 25% range, and all of those are not eligible to vote. There is also a large and growing hispanic population. At least in my city, they probably outnumber the black population.
where are you from barbh? I live in Durham.
Lots of hispanics in Durham. Huge numbers. Sounds like Hillary votes if they’re legal.
Jeff….Obama is ALREADY saying it is because White won’t vote for him… you know the racist whites won’t vote for him. That is what the BITTER comment was about. The prelude to the comment was an explanation of why he may not do well in PA. You see there is nothing wrong with him, only everything wrong with the Typical White Voter… especially in small towns where they are bitter and clinging and can’t accept anyone different than them.
He plays it both ways.. some whites (the smart opened minded ones) will vote for him. The poor uneducated ones will not.
They have played on the guilt of the white person to not vote for the black man. That a white person has to vote for a black man to prove he/she is not racist.
This game is and has been playing out….open your eyes… he is already doing it.
ABO
Anybody but Obama
RISE HIllary RISE
Well he’s right. I would never vote for him. The sexist pig.
Percy said “They have played on the guilt of the white person to not vote for the black man. That a white person has to vote for a black man to prove he/she is not racist.”
I think that works well for the latte liberal elite whites who see Obama as cleansing for them. But the rest of white America (middle and working class) is not motivated by guilt. Those tactics will backfire.
Yes but they still try. I’ve seen the tactic used around the globe. Indiscriminately. I am SO sick and tired of it. Sirens go off right away too.
Or course when very few Blacks vote for white Hillary, that is not a form of racism. Gander….. Goose…how does that go? (Tongue in Cheek)
When people like Mayor Nutter make it okay to vote for the qualified, I don’t think that any of us have to seek permission. Just one woman’s opinion.
This white NC person will vote for the most qualified candidate. It is not my fault that Obama isn’t that candidate.
“Obama is ALREADY saying it is because White won’t vote for him… you know the racist whites won’t vote for him.”
direct quote please? Where does he say exactly what you state, not that’s how you’re interpreting it.
Kevin
Put 2 + 2 together and go figure it out. You continually ask for quotes, quotes, quotes. Some things are transmitted implicity and through a variety of conversational avenues, i.e., body language. We aren’t children here and have lived long enough to pick up on communication cues.
You are always petulant with these demands for quotes. You remind me of a child asking his mother, “Why?!” to which the mother says, ” Because I said so!” Okay! Take it on faith even if you can’t stomach it. We can sense this guy stinks from everything he’s said and done. We weren’t born yesterday.
Sorry this isn’t good enough for you. But I don’t give a shit.
“body language”???! if you’re going to make a charge as the commentor did, then back it up - rather than blow it up with hyperbole - otherwise you’re as bad as the opposition supporters you regularly kvetch about.
Your body language comment is almost as silly as the whole “he flipped her the bird thing”… geez.
And by the way hope, thanks for sharing your opinion, but as the question wasn’t put to you I could care less whether or not you give a sh*t or not…
Oh Boohoo Kevin.
Archie Buker? Didn’t Obama call his loss in Ohio due to Archie Bunkers? That is racial stereotyping.
Well this typical white woman will not be voting for him.
I WOULD vote for his grandmother though.
Unfortunately, there seems to be a disconnect with Obama, the DNC, and Obama’s supporters, about the fact that there is still a GE to contend with.
Perhaps they’re being too optimistic or naive to realize that they’re burning bridges that will come back to haunt them if Obama succeeds in getting the nod, and faces a moderate Republican.
The endgame for Obama’s support seems to be getting the nomination. Period. Should someone clue his supporters that the nomination is only half-time?
No they think the Republicans are going to stay home so they won’t need the rest of us.
I think your absolutely right Uppity, I think that they are delusional.
Actually, I have been told many many times by Obamabots that soooooo many Republicans and new voters will drive Obama into the White House that my vote is irrelevant. The sad thing is, they really believe it.
Well….The weather is good on Fantasy Island….
Ignorance is bliss.
Well they think like fools then. We will turn on them. I’d rather have McCain in there then this
snot-nosed elitist. He needs to be sent home with his tail between his legs then made to sit in the corner of his bedroom with a dunce cap on his silly little head.
I sometimes think that the uber-plot is to get the nomination in order to lose the GE.
Hmmm. I have been saying for a while now that the only way that Obummer makes sense is if he is a ringer. Then we are left of two dreadful choices…thank you Karl Rove.
But Mighty Hillary will save us all even those who do not deserve it.
I predict today is going to be a huge victory for Hillary and Obummer will have to stay in hiding for a while longer.
“I have been saying for a while now that the only way that Obummer makes sense is if he is a ringer.”
Right. No way he’s just a better politician who has out-campaigned her, out-fundraised her, and out-fought her.
He’s definitely out fund raised her. But that isn’t accomplishing much. He certainly is the dirtier campaigner, but I’m not sure that I would be bringing that up. As for out fighting her …. if she had won 11 caucuses in a row, do you think she’d have lost the BIG STATES? Come on, I know that the accoustics are better up your ass, but you aren’t seeing the truth.
“He’s definitely out fund raised her. But that isn’t accomplishing much”
ROFLMAO… c’mon Bee - stick to the substantive stuff, there’s plenty to work with. To suddenly discount the fact that he’s out fund raised her just because he has - with a flippant, “that isn’t accomplishing much” is beneath you
Kev…Baby-O is headed for POLITICAL OBLIVION either way you cut it…
Too bad he just didn’t send it to a worthy cause, cuz he certainly didn’t get much traction in Pennsylvania outside of Philly. I can’t wait to hear the media do a per vote break down on the OBSCENE amount of money spent.
Too bad he couldn’t trouble himself to get Rezko to spend a couple buck to fix the heat in those slums in Chicago.
We will see who gets the last laugh Jeff. Even if he gets the nomination he’ll have to pay up. Then we shall see just how good a politican he really is when the big boys come after him. He hasn’t paid his dues yet.
Jeff –
BO is much better at bullshit –that’s a fact. As far as out-fundraising… tell me you really don’t believe that millions of minions have been contributing to him? More like hundred of Bundlers, Lobbyists, Bundlers and more Bundlers from Wall Street, and obviouosly, San Francisco and Beverly Hills.
Out campaigned her? Please more like obscenely flashing his money around, squandering it on T.V. Ads and slime mail-outs. You know, he’s gotta flash that bling-bling around to show was a Baller he is.
Yup and he spent 4 to 1 in PA and she is about to whoop him there. I’m telling you Kev, “It’s The Women, Stupid”. You folks just don’t want to believe it, but you will in the end.
I don’t think some people truly understand the depth of loyalty we women have to Hillary. It goes deeper than a political penchant.
My thought is that Obama is being funded merely to keep Clinton out of the GE.
IF Obama “wins” the nomination — then I expect to see his unlimited funding dry up.
Hillary will win the nomination. The Obamabots won’t riot — that would take the brats away from their computers. It’s an empty threat.
There is a serious rift in the party beyond Hillary and/or Obama. The left centrists and elite have taken control through the use of super delegates and keeping Fla and Mi out of the counting UNTIL AFTER Hillary is defeated prior to the convention.
The game plan is obvious. Obama’s connections to Wright,Ayers.etc were necessary for him as an opportunistic politician to gain traction in Chicago where it is “cool” to be radically chic, and successful politically.
Now it may haunt him as it is sure to in the general. His high handed manner with the media will eventually cost him as well, but for now he is being made inaccessable to protect him from error, or explanation as he needs to CLOSE. He has trouble closing against a formidable opponet and fighter like Hillary.
The party is TERRIFIED about losing their Black Voters. Without them, Democrats feel they will be sorely disadvantaged, and Blacks demand that Obama get the nomination NO MATTER What. Black caucus is all powerful in Dem Party, and Dean,Kerry,Pelosi and the rest are all going left centrist with the young left voters. Unsurprisingly neither Obama or any of the cabal within the party attempting to coronate him are leftists, but will kiss ass to get their votes.
The party is corrupt, ill run, and has shown appallingly bad judgement. Should Hillary by a miracle get to the convention and fight for and get the nomination,she will be tagged as illegitimate by the black voters and by the GOP.
The Democratic party leadership has once more shown its inability to lead or rule. Obama could win in the general, but I feel it is unlikely as the Rezko baggage has yet to reach a crescendo which it certainly will. While nothing will turn off Obamacons, there are others to whom this will matter a lot.
Let’s hope for a miracle.
If her margins are large and she keeps winning (as I suspect she will from now on) they can’t complain.
She will have the POPULAR vote and will be statistically even in delegates.
If she only barely wins in PA and loses NC, Ind and Oregon by big margins……
she will have to either take the VP spot or bow out and then
McKOOK is Pretzeldent.
sigh
what a fight
it’s a crime all this info on BHO didn’t come out a friggen YEAR ago! Shame on the MEDIA BIAS!
The demographic truth is that balcks are not as necessary a voting block in the Democratic party as they used to be. Women and Latinos have far greater numbers. But the old-school party apparatchniks like Dean have given AAs disproportionate power in this primary.
The demographic truth is that this may be the last time that black voters have real relevance as a block in the Democratic party. This is their last chance. And if their guy gets the nomination, but they can’t help him deliver the country in the GE, the Democratic party will have to switch its focus to women and Latinos. That the party leadership doesn’t seem to recognize this is astounding to me.
If Obama is the nominee, there will be headlines after McCain is elected reading “Women, Latinos deliver McCain victory.” And the Obamabots will say white women and Latinos are just racist and it’s all Hillary’s fault. And the Democratic Party willl have to purge itself of the influence of these old-schoolers or the Republican multigenerational hegemony will continue.
It is Obama who is old school.
are you saying that Hillary could win without Black support? just as Hillary’s supporters point out that Obama will need the support of “Hillary’s people” - the same goes the other way.
Ok, the Dems lose the black voters– to whom? The GOP? Sister (Souljah?sp), where are you now?
they won’t vote, or they will vote their pocketbooks, like my AA neighbor has the last two elections when she thought GWB was going to bring taxcuts home to her.
I think they just stay at home.
unlike the clinton supporters who’ve sworn to vote for McCain if Hillary doesn’t win.
I never said they lose black voters. I said black voters won’t be decidng the nominee.
I never said they lose black voters. I said black voters won’t be deciding the nominee.
Spot on. Given the margins that Democrats win in contested states and districts they cannot afford to lose even 10% of the AA vote.
Just look how close the votes were for most of new Democratic senators like Tester and Webb to name but a few.
Now losing the AA vote in gerrymandered districts and hard blue states is pretty much irrelevant. But in the big scheme of things the Dems need to keep the AA voters on board if they don’t want to go the way of the whigs.
Obama cannot win the general election because there are too many people like me who will NEVER vote for anybody who divides the country or the party by race is order to gain an advantage. That is too dangerous to our country and I will vote for McCain before I vote for Obama.
More like preseason football players when the “not ready for prime time” players are let go….
Uh Jeff, his minions started calling us racists months ago. I was called one over at KOS just because I asked that we not start eating each other.
I care about racism like they care about sexist. Let me know when that changes and I will get right on it.
“Uh Jeff, his minions started calling us racists months ago. I was called one over at KOS just because I asked that we not start eating each other.”
Being called a racist by Obama supporters at Kos is a world apart from Barack Obama himself having said those things. Hillary Clinton supporters here at No Quarter have called me racist, sexist, and many other unprintable slanders. I certainly don’t take from those experiences “Hillary Clinton called me racist and sexist”!
People here need to get some perspective on this glaring difference.
“thas alri” go twist your own knife Jeff.
he insults white people regularly. also women.
i know you say he couldn’t possibly be dumb enough to insult large groups whose votes he needs. sadly for you and gladly for the country, he is dumb enough.
Generally he leaves the race baiting and racist labeling stuff to his followers so as to appear above the fray.
Yobama more than happy to let people like Kos, Sirota and Marshall fling the racist card at whites.
Of course yobama can’t really hide his own racist views of whites. How could he when he was mentored by the bigot and black separatist Wright for the last 20 years. It slips out now and then, in his book the Audacity of Hope where he repudiates his white half and in his comments where he compares his grandmother to that black David Duke Wright, to calling whites born racists.
The funny thing if any white Democrat ever uttered the same comments toward AA’s or had the friends Obama they’d be lynched by the very same liberals supporting yobama.
what’s the implication of “yobama”, my friend?
It must be racist. Stick it.
Well, what’s the implication that you derive from the nickname “Yobama”? Perhaps rwc’s comparing him to Yoda? Spell it out for me.
Can you explain “shillary” to me?
So you admit this is offensive to black folks, just as “Shrillary” is to women? Very well.
yobama makes perfect sense spoken by a philadelphian…
Wouldn’t that be a compliment from a Philadelphian?
Not in the manner of “yo mamma,” as I recall, but hey you go!
“Generally he leaves the race baiting and racist labeling stuff to his followers so as to appear above the fray.”
Then by your logic, Hillary the candidate is personally responsible for the most whacked-out comments of the posters on this board.
He did it in Ohio
According to this morning’s New York Times — the comment might have been lost because it was buried in an article talking about how the “older voter” will vote for Hillary in Pennsylvania … but here’s the real issue that no one is allowed to bring up if they are white:
Only race is a stronger predictor of voting than age, and then only if a voter is black, not if he or she is white. How come its okay that 90% of AA’s vote for him and no one seems to have an issue with that? Just askin’ and not sayin anything ….
jeff — the problem is Obama IS thin skinned. He has attacked white people as racist many times. You don’t attend that hate filled house of worship for 20 years without picking up some of the lingo.
“He has attacked white people as racist many times. “
OK, now when he has ever “attacked white people as racist”?
Ok Jeff how about his grandmother the typical white person? Or maybe telling a San Francisco fundraiser that the people in the small towns of Pa will never vote for him because they cling to their churches and their guns and would never vote for someone with a different skin color. If those aren’t racist remarks than what is?
“Ok Jeff how about his grandmother the typical white person? Or maybe telling a San Francisco fundraiser that the people in the small towns of Pa will never vote for him because they cling to their churches and their guns and would never vote for someone with a different skin color. If those aren’t racist remarks than what is?”
Obama is half-white. He has as much right to call his grandmother a typical white person as any other white person does. He was obviously explaining that her behavior and attitudes were normal–not racist.
“Or maybe telling a San Francisco fundraiser that the people in the small towns of Pa will never vote for him because they cling to their churches and their guns and would never vote for someone with a different skin color.”
He never said this. He never said that gun owners and church-goers of small towns would “never vote for him”, and he never said they “would never vote for someone with a different skin color”. You are projecting your own opinion onto his remarks, and distorting them.
Wrong Jeff–If you are running for the Presidency of the United States where the majority of the population is white and you want to win the majority of the votes — you don’t attack white people.
Obama has a thin skin. You don’t vote for me and you’re against me. Thats total crap. If Obama wants the biggest job in the world he needs to suck it up or get out of the race. Where is all the HOPE? Sheeeeeze the guy is getting on my nerves. We cannot worry about what mood he’s in on any given day — its HIS problem to worry about us.
The person who is the CANDIDATE…is ultimately responsible for the words and actions of subordinates….OBAMESSIAH through Axelrove and his minions played the race and sexist card. The buck has to stop somewhere…That is universal whether you are GWB or lil baby-O
I am a lifelong Democrat, and I will NEVER vote for Obama.
“I am a lifelong Democrat, and I will NEVER vote for Obama.”
Fine, just as long as you stop going around telling everyone you’re a “lifelong Democrat”.
jeff, i’m also a lifelong dem who will never vote for obama. and i can call myself that, or anything else i want. last i heard it’s still a free country.
Dont you dare pull that on anyone here. WHo the hell put YOU in charge of what a real democrat is. You should be ashamed of yourself for even typing that.
I submit you are not a Democrat. Democrats aren’t fascists who tell other Democrats what to think. And the VAST majority of them aren’t hanging off some marxist cliff either. That’s the fringe that has sullied our party, just like a fringe sullied the Republican party.
I’m sorry, wasn’t Obama supposed to be a crypto-Republican a few posts ago? You folks make it difficult to keep up sometimes.
That fringe is you.
Aha - so the 50+% of the Democrats who favor Obama in the tracking polls constitute the “fringe.” Fascinating.
“You should be ashamed of yourself for even typing that.”
Oh, get over yourself. More faux outrage, just like “Bittergate”.
Your permission is not necessary.
You see that’s the most offensive problem with the Obama campaign. They are arrogant, snotty, bossy, pushy and threatening. Every word that comes out of their mouths or off their keyboards helps convince me I not only do not want to be associated with this campaign, I DEFINITELY do not want to know it’s smarmy leader who has effectively figured out how to send his little pigletts out to threaten, insult, bully and derail everyone else who doesn’t agree with them. Every time I see barack obama, the back of my head gets chills. Screw him, the pig. He will NEVER be president.
Yiou mean insults like “pigletts”??????
Uppity
I’m assuming that is how he wins caucuses.
Yay, first!
Larry, it’s because they have nothing else to fall back on. “Don’t like my candidate? It’s because you are racist and because he’s a black man.” Uh, no.
Well, thought I was first. Took too long in the reply.
That’s funny!
Lol! Good on you. You deserve it, fredster. You’re first in my mind.
Screw em. I don’t care what they call me. God knows they have called me enough filth not to give a shit about whether they call me racist or not. What makes them think they can be sexist pigs and I can’t be racist. The hell with them. They can kiss my typical white woman ass.
Awwwww. Look at the precious. Someone’s got a itty-bitty persecution complex! How positively darling.
Thanks for the sexist pig remark. I collect them for a nice piece I am doing. And you never let me down, pig.
Pardon me if I’ll skip the etiquette lessons from someone who called me a “raving asshole” - entirely without provocation - a couple of days ago.
And my remark actually indicated that you were acting like an infant, which you were. And are.
“Don’t like my candidate? Well that’s because she is a white woman.”
Like I said. Screw em.
Since they aren’t counting Fl and MI, To balance that disenfranchisement out, why don’t we not count 2 other states of equal delegate votes that Obama won. That way the current states that are being punished won’t feel so bad and the 2 new states who will be disenfranchised won’t really care or won’t care enough to bother in the general election. Do you think they would mind? Instead of Hillary taking the hit, we will make the hit even. Of coarse did Obama even win two states as big as FL and MI???
LOL
I can see them turn red with rage at that one.
They’re going to be RED STATES any where so in November, it won’t matter in the least. That’s the real issue … or it should be.
brilliant idea.
of course, his wins are in smaller states, but he got similar delegate disparities by “winning” some of those red caucus states. we could use two of those.
You can always take out his home state or at least Cook County - the popular vote margin would be practically even then.
“You can always take out his home state or at least Cook County - the popular vote margin would be practically even then.”
Fine: why not New York State or at least New York City for Hillary, too?
We can play that game all day long!
Notice that the media used the same pattern for polls in PA that they did leading up to Texas and Ohio? That is- spend weeks talking up polls showing Obama rapidly gaining ground and fueling speculation that Hillary will either lose or win by such a small margin that she should drop out anyway. Then, in the last few days, start talking about polls showing Hillary way ahead, so when she does go on to victory, the win can be downplayed.
This time, we’ve seen poll after poll with Obama pulling to within just a couple of points, and then suddenly we are handed polls showing Hillary jumping out to leads of eight or ten points. When Hillary wins by eight tonight, it will be another “blow” to her campaign, and NEVER YOU MIND those polls we spent weeks talking about that suggested Obama could actually win the state.
Heard on POTUS 08 this morning- moron from the Brookings Institute- “It wouldnt surprise me to see Hillary win PA by three to seven percentage points, and it wouldnt totally shock me to see Senator Obama pull out the narrowest of victories…”
Oh PLEASE! Hey, put me on the radio. I’ll tell the listeners that it wouldnt surprise me if Hillary won by a little or a lot, or if Obama won by a little or a lot. I’m such a treasure trove of information.
All day today, you’ll hear pundits telling us that Hillary “has” to win by double digits or she’ll “have” to withdraw. And we’ll see it repeated by trolls on this site as well.
It’s beyond predictable! And what I want to know is who ARE the YOPLAITs that are eating this up?
What brainless voters are buying anything these resident pundits have to say?
roflol!
At this point to believe any poll is foolhardy. jmo.
Can’t wait until tonight! Mica about had a cow this morning on Morning Schmoe. I want to see her squirm and flail herself on the floor. Throw a tantrum. LOL what a dip.
I know. It’s hysterical. He could get his ass beaten handily and they will still call it a win.
http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/
WOW ,,,IT MAKES ME HAPPY
POLL…..HILLARY 56%
OBAMA 40%
Thanks for the great ARG poll. 16% sounds really good to me.
http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/
WOW ,,,IT MAKES ME HAPPY
POLL…..HILLARY 56%
OBAMA 40%
Hey!
Please quit
I do think he is the “Chosen One” The question is… Who is doing the choosing? Who are the people behind the curtain? Who are his Neo cons? I believe he is the right wing candidate of the Charismatic leader to keep a lid on the mess they have created and can be seen just down the road. It will be much harder to rally resistance to a Democrat, a Black and a charismatic…..from the left. By the time people see that they have been fooled again, and by people worse than the neo cons, too late. Check out Obama’s advisers. Scary. As it stands now, if Obama wins, it doesn’t matter who wins in Nov. As a matter of fact, I feel certain the monied people want Obama. He can keep us in line. He can implement programs that will benefit the monied few and cloak them in BS. No opposition, and we believe and of coarse it is change….We are Fu**ed!
there is no one worse than ……… the Prick Cheney’s of this world.
There may be people EQUAL to it. I would agree to that. Not worse. Nope.
He’s as rock bottom grunge as you get.
(it is also only an opinion of course)
One would think that, but what I have read, at least the Neo-cons picked on countries that couldn’t fight back. (for the most part) But Obama’s Svenghalis are the Bzrezinski cabal. And their phobia is Russia. And how to turn events, China etc to their advantage to get them to turn on Russia.He hopes to create a showdown with Russia. They can fight back. And he is using China too. Like messing around in Africa (maybe getting funding to some rebels) to thwart the Chinese or to get us to bomb the rebels funded by the Chinese (who knows). All this is pretty squalid. But there are those who could be worse than Cheney. Hard to believe that but. And Cheney allowed the Constitution to be shredded. All these precedents will be used by the next “dictator type”.
alibe — very interesting comment. Maybe thats why Obama said Roosevelt was wrong to get close to Russia who was our enemy during WW2. Russia lost 20 million people defending their country against the Nazis and if it weren’t for their sacrifice we would not have won WW2. When I read Obama’s statement I thought how could he be that dumb but if Russia is his phobia then it all makes sens.
Ehemmm….He is the CHOSEN ONE CHOSEN BY THE WRONG PEOPLE FOR THE WRONG ELECTION AT THE WONG TIME….I’m just sayin’
QUIT SCREAMING AT EVERYONE
I got cut off….. sorry! lol
Well done Larry. Got a day off in Portsmouth, VA - I hope and trust all is well with all.
Obama should withdraw his nomination
ifwhen he loses in PA - for the good of the country and the party.heh heh
turn around is TOTALLY far play!
I 2nd that opinion.
Hiya Dawnelle,
After Obama loses in PA, I believe we should all say or write it to all that will listen. It’s not so much that I mean it but just maybe it might resonate with some about the inherent injustice that the Obamatrons exhibit when they demand that Hillary step down.
They are all spoiled rich kids mostly and they are the ones I just relish watching them throw HISSY fits!
Watching Olberdouches reaction will be priceless as well I’m sure.
I am sick of some of these guys to the point of actual nausea! Russert, TWeety, I don’t even like Lou most of the time he gets so damn pompous! (maybe it’s just that big huge round head of his I don’t know)
lol
I want some HONOR in journalism again!!
Taters! Hope the tour is going smashingly! Hugs to you. Miss you a lot, but I bet you are having lots of fun.
Polling machines “malfunctioning” in Hillary districts. surprise, surprise. Maybe this is why Obama thinks he’s going to do better than expected
One thing I think any reasonable people should agree on:
No matter who you’re for, no matter what party you support, we need to GET RID OF ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES.
they’re only a problem when people fuck with them.
I agree–electronic machines are no good.
looks like obama’s up to some more that “new” politics.
They said the same thing about machines in Obam’s districts…It’s just msm boredomspeak….Great post Larry…
Ok you can SCREAM I see now why. I pulled this little factoid from that link you posted
17% of all likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Hillary Clinton in the primary and 32% of likely Democratic primary voters say they would never vote for Barack Obama in the primary.
I will do my very best to increase the percentage.
me too. i’d like to see 90%.
“I will do my very best to increase the percentage.”
Spoken like a loyal Democrat.
Jeff — I have been a Democrat all my voting life. I have never voted for a Republican and don’t plan to start now by voting for Obama.
“Jeff — I have been a Democrat all my voting life. I have never voted for a Republican and don’t plan to start now by voting for Obama.”
Right–he’s the candidate with the most liberal voting record in the Senate, but he’s a Republican. Sadly, this is pretty standard logic around here.
Liberally voting ‘Present’ doesn’t count voting liberally.
In the primary, or in the GE?
Smearing the Clintons as racists was one of the most shameful events since George Wallace ran as a Democrat
Because of this ugly act, I will not vote for Obama if he steals the nomination. In fact, his brand of race-baiting, elitist cultism must defeated and our Party cleansed.
See? You damned white men!!!
ROFLOL!
Absolutely. That was when he crossed the Rubicon. I think the intensity of their Hillary bashing went way up after that– they knew they had besmirched her and Bill in the most awful way possible– and the only way to justify to themselves was to tear her down completely. I wonder if any of them will feel guilty when they wake up from their haze.
“Smearing the Clintons as racists was one of the most shameful events since George Wallace ran as a Democrat Because of this ugly act, I will not vote for Obama if he steals the nomination. In fact, his brand of race-baiting, elitist cultism must defeated and our Party cleansed.”
Quit being elitist, Bud! What’s this, ethnic cleansing?!
Stupidity cleansing– deNazification. That’s what we call it.
amen
The irony here knows no bounds.
If I had a nickle for every time I’ve heard Obama’s supporters summed up as sexist at this site, I’d have another 500 to send to Obama.
see that’s the thing
Blacks can talk and say the N word amongst themselves due to years of oppression
THE SAME GOES for women amongst women. WE have the RIGHT!! Same as they do.
P E R I O D with a capital RED
my opinion
Troll Time and if you had a nickel for every time you heard a racist remark by the Clintons, you would have $0.00.
The difference is that Obama and his supporters ARE being sexist.
BIG time~~!!
Racism isn’t dead in this country.
But it is no longer the powerful force that it was.
It will probably always exist on the fringes of society, but it is no longer permissible in the mainstream.
Not God damn America, God Bless America!
The days of racism are gone but you insist on calling him Barry? Do you still call Muhammad Ali by his old name Cassius Clay? Do you still call Kareem Abdul-Jabbar by his old name Fredrick Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor, Jr?
In the 60’s whites did this to blacks as a sign of deep disrespect that was clearly racist.
You can disagree with Barack Obama. But please call him by the name he has chosen for himself.
And do you always refer to Sen. Clinton as Sen. Hillary RODHAM Clinton? That is the name she prefers. Do you comply as readily?
He called himself Barry up until he started running for President. This is well known.
“He called himself Barry up until he started running for President. This is well known.”
Right, even though he introduced himself to the world at the 2004 Democratic convention as Barack Obama. He was running for the U.S. Senate, then.
He was running for President then, too. Don’t you realize that?
“He was running for President then, too. Don’t you realize that?”
No, I don’t. He was running for the open U.S. Senate seat in Illinois in 2004. I’m sorry this is news to you.
By your logic, Hillary’s two runs for the U.S. Senate seat in NY were really just runs for the presidency. Of course, you’ll say they weren’t.
Forget “Hillary Rodham Clinton” — you can’t even refer to her by her last name. Apparently you are chummy enough with her personally to refer to her by her first name only. Or maybe since she’s just a woman…..
I do feel chummy with Hillary. She represents me. I think she’s great. She likes to be called Hillary. She even has Hillary in big letters on her sign–without the Clinton. She is confident enough in herself to know that her first name is not a sign of disrespect, but her sense of connection with the voters. Barry, however, is so insecure in himself, his status, his masculinity that apparently he clings to titles to help him deal with his frustrations.
You are too literal. He has been running for President since he moved to Chicago. He approached his buddies in Chicago to help him get the Senate with the idea that he would run for President immediately. You really should read the Chicago papers.
He didn’t choose Barack. His father did. He didn’t pick a new name.
However, he liked Barry when he was in HS, and because that’s how he’s acting, that’s a good way to address him.
Or would you prefer I use his middle name? Equally proud of that one, yes?
He called himself Barry in school so I call him Barry
cant use his middle name, cant use the name he uses for himself, there are a whole lot of things Barry supporters dont want us to do with their precious
what is he made of glass? think he will break?
Barack always called himself Barry. I am getting confused as to what to call him. Because we are not allowed to say his middle name Hussein. He is now Barack H. Obama. Ok you satisfied????
The way I understand it…Barack was called “Barry” by his High School classmates..At some point, apparently, Barack associated that with a White Kids name..and started referring to himself as Barack and Insisting that other people stop calling him “Barry”..because he wanted to go with his Black heritage..
Ehemmm…..Modem….I am a typical white person and I take personal responsibility for all the past sins of all white people directed toward all African Americans from this day 4/22/08 retroactively to somewhere in 1587…..I’m currently poor so I cannot pay reparations…Now that is taken care of…..What will be Sen. Obama’s exscuse now…..
Not sure which is the more ridiculous statement:
“A Hillary victory in Pennsylvania today will stoke their fears”
or
“don’t understand is that today most Americans don’t give a damn about how much melanin you have. The days of Jim Crow are gone.”
Actually, the latter - c’mon Larry, you and others on this site have already been touting how Obama is unelectable, because among other reasons - is the portion of the population that just won’t vote for him for that reason… remember your whole “Ice Cube/Ice T” meme article???
Which one is it? It can’t be both. And yes, while things are much better than they were in the past - are you really trying to say that america is a completely color blind society? It plays no part in how people see others or how one is viewed????
As for the first point, you as well as everyone else (including Obama’s campaign) have been saying for weeks that Hillary would win PA. It was a matter of how much her margin of victory would be, not if there would be one.
He’s unelectable because he’s totally unqualified. Noone on this site has ever said he’s unelectable because he’s black. It’s the Obama camp that wants to have it both ways– they want to call white people racist to explain their candidate’s failings and then they turn around and say Obama is more electable because white people are beyong voting based on race. You can’t have it both ways. Trying to have it both ways will kill you in the GE. He screwed up big time calling the Clintons racist. And he keeps digging himself in deeper by insulting working class white people. He’s toast against McCain. You know it.
His enitire campaign is based on DOUBLE STANDARDS!!
Ehemmmm……Kevin your candidate is headed for POLITICAL OBLIVION….
If he gets the nomination…He will lose….If Clinton gets the nomination…He will lose..Why…Because he is is not qualified for the job….
If MSM had run Obama’s speech after the shootings at Virginia Tech, he would have been “toast” last year!
Michelle Maulkin, whom I can’t stand, has on her websight references to that speech. The Repubs are salivating to use it. They have saved it in their little bag of tricks to use in the GE if Obama is nominated.
Also, what is up that Obama hasn’t talked to reporters for 10 days; dropped out of NC Debate; jumped all over a reporter for asking a question, (”I just want to eat my waffle!”) Pressure getting to him?
Have you seen the video that puts together Obama claiming he never heard Wright make “those infammatory remarks” and then the audio of Obama reading from his book in which he says that Wright talked about Hiroshima? That little jewel will show that Obama lied. The Republican 527s are salivating to use it. But they are disciplined. They will wait until he gets the nomination. And they say Hillary plays tough. She is not using it. I wish she would.
Another elitist for Obama…
http://www.wilshireandwashington.com/2008/04/mellencamp-for.html
No, just another fool for Obama.
I wouldn;t brag about being an elitist… It broadcasts your ignorance!
maybe you should like, read the link?
shouldn’t you be out mugging someone on the way to the polls?
sorry .. missed a snark?
Actually, that’s a false report.
How is the Mellencamp story false, Bud?
At this point - I think this race has been a FANTASTIC opportunity for Hillary to show OFF her great traits!
She had been turned into some awful ugly creature by the RIGHT (mostly) and some sanctimonious leaf eaters from the far left when in truth she is like NEITHER group has portrayed her.
It’s been GREAT for her, in my opinion. I knew next to nothing about the REAL Hillary before all of this. I am very very grateful for the extended Primaries!
THIS is mostly for people like HOWARD DEAN and FANCY NANCY P.
This American voter is very pleased for Democracy! And guess who gets the credit for this????
The American VOTER! YEP!
“some sanctimonious leaf eaters from the far left”
good one…
What is disgusting and disturbing is Obama’s demeaning the American people once again, by using race as an excuse over the fact that the American people simply have good judgement!
In the 6 weeks since Ohio and Texas, many revelations have come out, not yet fully vetted and the culprit of such non-transparency is Senator Obama!
The real matter of fact is, Obama injecting this sort of divide once again is to infuse a firewall in NC, so that Indiana’s battlegound becomes an easier feat for Obama, while Clinton has another battle to contend with in NC!
But the fact of the matter is that Obama is instilling the exact same preachings by Rev Wright! It makes what many call amazing, Obama’s major “Speech on Race” meaningless to many more people, it was an astroturf speech to deflect which has been the theme throughout Obama’s campaign!
Attack by offensive manouvers in subjecting negative stereotypes on an opponent is the oldest of political gamesmanship by keeping the opponent on the defensive side!
Proof via Obama trolls in twisting an Obama failure into a Clinton one is a simple injection of the usual old ways of politics know to man. It is the most childish of endevours and is very tiresome as well!
Eliminate the caucus’s which were basically borderline riot events caused by Obama supporters has sunk the country into the “Rage of the ’60’s Days” by people who weren’t even a dirty though in their parents minds back then, but is new to them and resulting in rising of days of old that have been viewed even by many participants in it as a terrible form of protest!
Following every action made by Obama this season, and when saying Obama, Obama’s campaign and surrogates are Obama and not and excuse for Obama, so what’s risen out of Obama’s actions since December is exposing something extremely important to note, the repetition of being a victim statements is a weak persons way of life and thus is not a leader of Change, but soemone who needs to Change themself!
I am no Bush fan at all, but the one thing I do respect about Bush over Obama is Bush will tell you to FO and stand behind his actions and not run from them!
And for all the attacking Obamabots, take this moment to realize my response to you all is I have lifted my middle finger to you clearly as Bush did and not in the suttle way Obama does, in his cheap shots while being a cry-baby, in making things Clinton’s fault for his long time association with a terrorist!
Should Obama raise this Racial issue after tonight, then it is imperative that everyone call him out on it and throw his own diversion speech on race in Obama’s face!
Mel — your comment was very informative. What I cannot understand is how attacking the majority of the electorate who are white works for Obama as a candidate for the Presidency. Doesn’t this marginalize him further? Is his real aim is to take his followers and start a movement? If so, let him go. We have a country to fix and 2 wars to finish. We don’t need an obstructionist. Maybe he could start an Obamatown where all the koolaid is free.
alibe
I don’t think she prefers to ALWAYS be called Hillary RODHAM Clinton. Can you imagine if every time you said Hillary you should really be saying Hillary Rodham Clinton?
That said I don’t think calling Hillary Rodham Clinton just Hillary or Hillary Clinton would be considered a form of disrespect since everyone does it including right on this site.
But calling Barack by the name ‘Barry’ is flat out disrespect. And when someone does it it undermines that person’s ability to make a cogent argument.
It would be similar to calling Bill Clinton ‘Billy’, which someone would only do if they disrespected him.
actually, it’s similar to calling bill clinton “bill” which we do, rather than “william.” and we call him bill out of warmth, not disrespect.
barry is the name obama used for many years. he decided that, not us.
he also used soetoro as his last name for a while. then went back to obama, the name of the sperm donor who abandoned him while he was a toddler. you should be happy we don’t call him barry soetoro.
Disrespect??? Uh huh… so is being called a ‘big fucking whore”… don;t you think???
don’t forget cunt.
aye… I think that is a particularly vile word…
How does he explain the racism of AA community who vote for Hillary?
No, it points out the duplicity of Barack Hussein Obama’s life and lies. I bet his racist grandmother still calls him Barry.
I am so OVER what we are allowed to call the One. I didn’t name and I am not going to worry too much about what I call him. We call Bush “shrub” and plenty worse, so I have no issues calling him whatever. He can deal with it. Especially since he called me “typical.” Hardly.
“No, it points out the duplicity of Barack Hussein Obama’s life and lies. I bet his racist grandmother still calls him Barry.”
This from a comment board of posters who not only haven’t read his autobiography (which explains these things quite well), but wear that ignorance as a badge of honor.
Well everyone tried reading his biography, but after checking out his claim of his father coming from Kenya to America via the Kennedy (a lie) airlift and his being born a result of Selma (a lie), the obsession of Barry’s lies made the book as a biography not worth reading any further as it was fiction!
Oh sorry forgot, more Kool Aide?
PS Hope you checked Barry’s book out at your schools library and didn’t buy it to contribute to his $4 million income of lies and hatred!
“PS Hope you checked Barry’s book out at your schools library and didn’t buy it to contribute to his $4 million income of lies and hatred!”
It was actually given to me as a gift. A great read. I sincerely don’t understand this phenomenon of people bragging about not reading his autobiography. Didn’t anyone ever teach not to just take other people’s word for it, to actually go to the source material yourself?
I know people here hate Barack Obama, although I think those feelings are deeply irrational. But even if you hate someone, even if you think most of what they write is a pack of lies, doesn’t it still help your analysis to at least read their point of view? You guys spend every waking hour on this site obsessed with Barack Obama. You’d think the least you could do is go to the source for your hate-filled rants!
No,
There are enough FACTUAL news articles - including some great in-depth ones done by the Brits. Buying that stupid Hisotrical Fiction crap means contributing to the Problem that is Obama.
Now why would any SANE person spend hard earned money on Historical Garbage, filled with racist quotes, when they could go see a good movie or do something useful with the money?
I sat and read it at a book store….Took a couple of hours and I’m dyslexic….Still cannot figure out how it became a best seller…My review…MEDIOCRE….
Yes, his autobiography explains that his grandmother was being harassed by a black man– that this harassment is what she was afraid of– not black men in general. But Barry used the episode falsely to cover his own ass– to turn himself into a vitim of the grandmotehr who sacrificed for him to enable him to get where he is today. Ah, the politics of hope and change…
“Yes, his autobiography explains that his grandmother was being harassed by a black man– that this harassment is what she was afraid of– not black men in general. But Barry used the episode falsely to cover his own ass”
No, it tells the same story he told in his Philly speech.
Jeff…( sigh) it is a bullshit story…Made up to gain street cred…This cracker doesn’t but it….
We also call Hillary “Hill”, and she’s often called “Mrs. Clinton”, but usually by men who are trying to diminish her Senatorial position.
I can’t freakin’ believe someone would waste the energy whining about using Barry’s name… he was Barry growing up, he decidied he needed to sound more important and grown up, so he started using his full first name. BFD.
Baby-O is headed for political oblivion either way…Because he is a sham…
How about calling Carter Jimmy? Stop looking for racism around every corner.
Identity politics and the politics of racial divisions bites when it is coming back to haunt you in a backlash.
Just re-read Susan’s piece from yesterday more closely because only had time to scan it quickly before, but once again, she nailed it. Obama is experiencing now what he was warned about when he started playing the race card in South Carolina. Prior to that point, race was really a factor in this campaign, remember?
Suddenly, in SC, it was ALL about race?
Well. Did Barack suddenly become black? Did working class white voters suddenly become racist after New Hampshire? I_don’t_think_so. And, if Clinton was going to play the race card, why didn’t she do it in Iowa? Why not in New Hampshire? Hmm…
Permit me to suggest that race politics didn’t come into play in New Hampshire or Iowa because Obama didn’t need it then.
But he needed to steal those black voters from Hillary Clinton, because it was known that Bill Clinton was very popular among black voters. And, indeed, Hillary was ahead among black voters–that is, until Barack obama played the race card in South Carolina.
“Identity” politics is nothing, if not a living, breathing force, that creates energy; first on one side, and then, by the laws of nature, on the other side. It’s physics. It proves that Obama’s politics of “unity” are nothing of the sort.
If Democrats lose working class white voters–because they are voting their own brand of “identity” politics–even as black voters have clearly done all along–then one has to ask: Is Obama really not a divider, instead of a uniter?
The answer is yes. And, Obama fears the truth because he knows he played the race card.
The Obama campaign stoked the race card, played identity politics from SC on. Prior to the run-up to South Carolina, race hadn’t entered into its divisive current focal point in the campaigns. It was in South Carolina that the Obama campaign decided to play “identity” politics and lit a match by playing the race card so Obama could cull black voters from the Clinton campaign. Well, it worked for them; but even then, analysts were saying it could come back to haunt them later, in states without large black voter constituencies. And, it has come back to haunt him–in Ohio, in Texas, in Pennsylvania, in WVA, and in Kentucky, too.
And, a Hillary victory in Pennsylvania will stoke their fears that the blowback will make superdelegates question his viability as a nominee. If, after all, those white, working class voters turn away from Obama in the general, and vote for McCain instead, then Obama will be less credible as a winner for the general election.
seems like obama thought he could always get away with being one thing in one state and something else in another. white grandma comes out in kansas, jay z in the carolinas, etc. guess he forgot about tv, the internet, etc.
Maybe its what he things is bi-racial?
lol!!!
I think it says alot about the character of a person who is always finding excuses to ”rationalize” their mistakes, etc… He is sounding so very pathetic and now trying to hide from media and debates… The man is a coward and I pray the SDs come to their senses!
Obama campaign official bringing up “race” on day of
election, Mitchell on MSNBC interviewing this guy,
approx. 1:20 Eastern.
I knew those assholes would drop a bomb today on the
day of the primary. South Carolina it was the Ferarro
manufactured and delayed non-controversy.
Fuck them. I’m really tired of this divisive nonsense,
it goes against “change” and reverts us to the past.
Hypocrites!
Backs up what Larry wrote big time!
They must not be turning out to vote … although its early according to the voter trends for them at the polls … nothing like telling your base to get out and vote!
Interesting observation, so what you are saying it is shows weakness and desperation.
Wow, dropping some choice racist remarks into a diatribe about faux racism. How very Rovian of you, Larry.
And I am supposed to be impressed that Hillary sat down with a man that has essentially accused her of murder and de facto drug dealing, and never acknowledged that he bankrolled what amounted to a pile of lies? Many of us revile Mellon Scaife because of what he did to the Clintons. We’re supposed to admire the fact that she will cravenly pander for one measly tick in the editorial endorsements column?
No you are supposed to admire her integrity and and professionalism to speak to ALL people… not as your man does by hiding from the media and whimping out on tough questions… Grow up!
But you’re okay with calling Clinton a racist? Thanks so much for clearing that up for us?
Hmmm lets see who is ticking his column… Ayers, Hamas, Wright, Farrakn… need I go on???
BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA IS NOT FIT TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HE IS UNABLE TO WITHSTAND ANY KIND OF PRESSURE THEREBY MAKING HIM WEAK AND EVASIVE. THE AMERICAN PUBLIC KNOWS LITTLE ABOUT HIM AND HIS PAST AND QUITE FRANKLY, I FIND HIM AND HIS WIFE STRANGE. ITS A RISK TO TRUST THESE PEOPLE.
Hey, looks like your caps lock is stuck. It’s to the left of the “A” button. It’s bigger than the others.
Take a VALIUM EH??!! Some people have eye problems and need large print!
Barry should hire you to press the voting buttons on Senate Bills, since he has admitted being incapable of doing so properly!
It’s not the name that bothers me … a rose is a rose ….
I need to know what words are EQUAL to words like
Monster
C$nt
Wh*re
B*tch
because DAMN that Andrea Twitchell she was trying to equate the dirty campaigns. If WORDS MATTER………. then TELL ME BHO HYPOCRITES what words shall we call your Messiah to equal those???
I need to know because I plan to use them soon! I don’t even have to worry about being tagged as a member of your stupid campaign either! I won’t lose my job like Randi Traitor Rhodes either.
WHAT are those words?????
We must keep it FAIR and EQUAL since we surely can’t keep it JUST.
Nope. You don’t really want to do that.
Right now it feels a lot like you might.
But he’s not worth any of us losing our integrity or decency for. He’s just a flash. And then … he’s gone. Thank you God.
or humanity. Let’s not lose our humanity. if we do, we lost more than an election. more than four years.
Thanks for the soft arm to calm down. I surely need to because I don’t think I’d be able to utter the equal words to that against anyone!
That’s not who I am.
When did America become so numb to name calling? Hillary can brush it off. I don’t know how. I think it’s the most immature and ignorant of things to resort to doing……….. and I have fallen myself but DAMNNIT I am tired of turning the other cheek to these frauds. (and they are frauds to me) Is that name calling? I suppose.
“He’s just a flash. And then … he’s gone. Thank you God.”
Do you guys just weave an alternative reality here, and then pretend to live in it?
you can’t believe he could win in NOV right?
surely you are not that lost in the MIST that is Odrama?
“you can’t believe he could win in NOV right?”
Absolutely he will.
I’m less impressed, however, with the idea that someone like Hillary Clinton, who is viewed as honest and trustworthy by 36% of Democrats could possibly win the general election.
I have an even harder time understanding how she could possibly win given the unbelievably terrible campaign she has already run this primary, the fact that she is already in debt and the primary isn’t even over, and the fact that some 50% of likely voters say they would never in a million years vote for Hillary Clinton.
Hmmmm Obama electable in a GE, take some more Kool Aide, he will be slaughtered!
Someone who spends astounding sums of money in Ohio, Pa and can’t win, is not electable at all!
He couldn’t even buy his way to a win, what does that say about his electability, his message and his campaign?
One thing about the Red States, they are so predictable, and maybe some more Republicans will help him along the way to the biggest slaughter of a candidate in history!
I doubt seriously if after the election Baby - O could even get a third rate talk show…
Jeff — Obama cannot win in November. 32% of Democrats will not vote for him under any circumstances. Being he is considered too far to the left for Republicans this says he is toast if he is the nominee.
“32% of Democrats will not vote for him under any circumstances.”
yeah, I think it was 40% of Republicans said they would never vote for GWB after the McCain/Bush fight in 2000. Look how that turned out!
Yeah, we got into fucking (over) Iraq.
Thank you for the wonderful analogy.
This is why we need someone other than Obama.
Ehemmm……..Mist or odor…Fumes can be so tricky….
ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING -I DONT THINK AMERICA WILL EVER HAVE A PRESIDENT WITH A NAME LIKE BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA. PEOPLE, THIS IS AMERICA, NOT ZIMBABWE OR KENYA!
I don’t care what someone’s name is. I just want them to know what they’re doing. Obama doesn’t.
Sorry Julie, peddle your racism somewhere else today. I’m from a family of immigrants with ethnic names… that IS what America is all about.
I have no issue with Obama’s name. NO ONE here does. We have an issue with his being inexperienced, arrogant, and associated with lowlife.
NO. I don’t care on that point whatsoever.
I don’t even care if he’s muslim, as long as not radical.
I do care that he’s not qualified.
“I DONT THINK AMERICA WILL EVER HAVE A PRESIDENT WITH A NAME LIKE BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA. PEOPLE, THIS IS AMERICA, NOT ZIMBABWE OR KENYA!”
Another open mind speaks out.
Julie….I think the name has little to do with it…Barry is simply overated and underqualified….That’s all…Americans want folks that are qualified (excepting GWB, that was temporary insanity and a rigged election in 2000)
Obama seems to have alot of friends who hate America. I don’t think we are ready for that in a president.
It may be a technicality, but in the true sense, as we know it in America, Obama is not an African-American. He has no connections to the AA’s of this country. If his father had been from Sri-Lanka for example, he would most probably be blacker than he is but he wouldn’t be an AA. Ergo he is simply a white American of a mixed racial marriage(is it still a marriage if his father commits bigamy?)Therefore, how can White Americans be racist for voting AGAINST a white candidate? My sypathies go to the AA population that has been bamboozled and hoodwinked by this charlatan.
More good news!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-21-poll_N.htm?csp=34
the guess you are calling your bookie to place your next years college tuition on that poll huh?….lol
The rant in SF accused PA white small town voters of racism. This is not new. This game is a double edge sword because it galvanizes the black vote, but it’s divisive. I’m brown, Hispanic. Someone who’s experienced some forms of racism. If someone accuses me of being racist because I believe BO does not have the accomplishment to hold the office of POTUS, I feel attacked. If he uses the race card again to support his lack of support in PA, then he’s lost all hope to win this and any future national election. Btw, in 2004, I really liked Sharpton, but he was not a choice by the time I voted in the June CA primary.
Are “educated” voters voting for Obama solely as to not be called racist? That doesn’t sound very “educated” to me. But perhaps that is the reason, because they can’t say they are using “reason” to help them decide on a candidate. Any reasoning person would not be able to gloss over all the negative aspects of the man Obama is, and support him.
There is no doubt that Obama was the first and only person to play the race card. It was cynically put into play so that he could regroup after the NH results. The Clintons, like the majority of democrats, are certainly not racists and, ironically, it wasn’t that long ago that Bill was being hailed as the first “black” president. Obama’s deep ties with a bizarre afrocentric church and a racist (there is no other way to describe his words denigrating whites) pastor show a degree of racial polarization that belie his claim to transcend race. He is a deeply flawed candidate whose actions, from the time he ran for the senate onwards, are counter to his claims of hope and change. But thanks to liberal interest groups like Daily Kos and Move On, whose fund-raising abilities can play a very strategic role in the democratic primary, another hollow democratic candidate will be put up for defeat in the general election. When a party repeatedly refuses to learn from past mistakes, and suicidally runs away from the only living successful democratic president (and denigrates his legacy), then it is time for a third party that eschews the bitter divisiveness of the republican right and the democratic left.
The Obama surrogates has made race as an issue in this primary (with the blessings of the Obama campaign?) and race bait, too ,maybe as a counterpoint to whatever future controversies and scandals that Obama might have in the future. He has made race and race baiting the central portion of his campaign. It is with a certainty that Obama surrogates(with the blessings of the Obama campaign?) will answer every controversy and scandal with statements pertaining to race.
Remember the time when the Somali tribal dress that Barack wore in 2006 and was leaked thru the Drudge Report? David Plouffe immidiately accused the Clinton team of ’shameful offensive fear-mongering’. Then there is the op-ed of Orlando Patterson in the NY times which tried to put race in the 3am ad of Sen. Clinton.To qoute the 1st paragraph of the op-ed:
“On first watching Hillary Clinton’s recent “It’s 3 a.m.” advertisement, I was left with an uneasy feeling that something was not quite right — something that went beyond my disappointment that she had decided to go negative. Repeated watching of the ad on YouTube increased my unease. I realized that I had only too often in my study of America’s racial history seen images much like these, and the sentiments to which they allude.” And that is only the 1st paragraph.
Then there is the latest “brushing the dirt off the shoulder” incident which the Obama surrogates(?) has linked to the Jay Z song, “Dirt Off Your Shoulder”, a racially charged song (see this web link and judge for yourself.)http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/jayz/dirtoffyourshoulder.html
This can be construed as race baiting tactics of the Obama team and surrogates. It only needs a spark.
Please forward to your friends because it is imperative that the American people know who the real Barack Obama is and the way it is seen by me is he wants the race card to be front and foremost always. This could be his strategy up to the GE ( in case he wins the primary) and, heaven forbid, up to the presidency ( in case he wins it.)
In order for me to change this perspective on Obama, he must prove to me by his actions that this perspective is wrong.
The awesome over-the-topness of this just made my day. Bill brought up Jesse Jackson apropos of nothing in an interview with an SC reporter as a way of explaining away the shellacking Hillary was about to get. “Jim Crow, KKK, noose-toting racist”? No. Totally stupid? Yeah, of course.
Bill basically lost Hillary the black vote for the remainder of the campaign right there. And to think, at the beginning of it all, polls showed that the majority of black voters were perfectly willing to pass up the opportunity to vote for the first black president in deference to the Clintons. Way to screw that one up.
Bill Clinton does not have a racist bone in his body. He marched with King. Do you think that Hillary’s comment that it took Martin Luther King working with President Lyndon Johnson to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1965 was racist? Cause it was true. King said so himself. The Civil Rights Act could not have been passed were it not for Johnson.
The fact is that this nation is a patchwork quilt of differences. Its what makes this nation great and it is the only nation on earth where people of all races, colors and creeds live and work together. I resent Obama playing the race card because at a time when people should be coming together for the common good of all Americans — Obama has decided to divide us.
I think that your comments are BS. I had been reading many articles before Barack’s win in Iowa, about how black Americans viewed the race. Many were enamored with Barack, but afraid to vote for him because they did not want to see him hurt in any way. Some believed that he couldn’t win, so why support him. Others felt that Hillary (and Bill) had always supported black caucuses, so they should support Hillary. Regardless, many did support Barack. What did it in for Mrs. Clinton as far as her black support is concerned, was the vote in Iowa, a state with a very tiny population of blacks. That was an eye opener for blacks who now believed that a black could actually win the Democratic primary. Black pride propelled Barack’s popularity in African American communities. Bill Clinton’s comments were not racist at all. They were factual based on previous experiences of Jesse Jackson. It is not wrong to believe that votes can be cast based on a candidates race, even when qualifications of a candidate are actually less, regardless of what anyone says. There are white people that will never vote for a man of color… there I said it, just as I am sure that are black people who have NEVER voted in their life, but are now registered and prepared to vote for their black candidate. There are many different reasons that propel people to vote as they do. Personally, I think voting on race is stupid. I agree that it is not the color of your skin, but the thickness of your skin that matters.
I meant black “causes”, not “caucuses” above.
I don’t know whether this has been posted here yet, but Obama is flipping people off on the DL again. This time it’s a reporter who dared ask him a question while he was eating. Such class!
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/04/22/2008-04-22_barack_obama_just_wants_to_eat_his_waffl-3.html
Jeff…( sigh) it is a bullshit story…Made up to gain street cred…This cracker doesn’t buy it….
http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/22/should-clinton-quit-if-she-doesn%e2%80%99t-win-pa-by-at-least-10-points/
pls fix this cafferty guy on CNN
HE IS ALWAYS PLAYING SEXISM CARD TO HILLARY
i hate him ,,
why he is so biased ,,,,,
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/22/clinton-iran-would-pay-a-very-high-price-for-nuclear-attack/#comments
CNN ATTACKING HILLARY AGAIN ….MAKING HER LOOK LIKE A WAR LOVER
PLS BLOG AND FIX OBAMABOTS
Every day we see a new example of BO thin skin. I can’t imagine not staying in PA tonight. It’s the right thing to do for your followers. But he can’t bare any slight what so ever. He would last 3 days when facing the GOP. Which I believe is his job, if only that damn Clinton woman would drop out before she lost.
With all due apologies, and please don’t take this wrong, and if you’re offended , I apologize, but where I live, we call Obama’s behavior with the finger another example of his “gay pride.”
It has to do with repressed homosexuality, self hate, and Freud.
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Let’s all remember how Olbermann, Matthews, etc. all snarked at Hillary for leaving South Carolina on the day of that primary- “hey Chris, what state is Denial in?”
I’m so sure we’ll hear the same tonight as Obama speaks to his supporters from- Indiana.
I’m also sure that the sun will rise in the west tomorrow.
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