Breaking: $10M in donations + 50,000 donors [Video Update]
By SusanUnPC on April 23, 2008 at 12:15 PM in Hillary Clinton, Popular Vote, Superdelegates
On MSNBC, Clinton’s national chair Terry McCauliffe just announced that we’ve raised $10 million in cash since last night’s history-making election in Pennsylvania. There were 50,000+ donors. More cash is pouring in. She’ll need every penny we can spare because Obama, unbelievably (?), has endless cash flow. (Of course, he outspent her three-to-one in Pennsylvania, and still couldn’t win, or even come close.)
ALSO BREAKING: Hillary has snagged an important Tennessee superdelegate. “Rep. John Tanner, a prominent Blue Dog Democrat, backs [Hillary].”
UPDATE: Vet4Hill has created a terrific new video on Hillary’s lead in the popular vote … it’s just below the fold:
Special thanks to Claude for the tip on the MSNBC interview. Claude also reports that McCauliffe had to put up with questions from Andrea Mitchell, but he knows how to handle her and those kinds of questions.
And, here’s the official Clinton press release on John Tanner’s pledge:
Congressman John Tanner Endorses Hillary Clinton for President
On the heels of a strong victory in Pennsylvania, Congressman John Tanner today announced his endorsement of Hillary Clinton for President. Tanner represents Tennessee’s 8th Congressional District.
“I do not remember a time when our nation has faced the financial peril that confronts all Americans,” Congressman Tanner said. “To me, this election is not about politics as usual. I believe nothing less than our financial liberty and economic freedom are at stake.
“In my opinion, the best person to lead this critical effort is Hillary Clinton. Hillary is a smart, pragmatic leader who understands the grave situation our country faces, with a $9 trillion debt, much of which is borrowed from foreign countries. Now, more than ever, our nation needs a leader like Sen. Clinton who can work with others to return to fiscal sanity.”
Congressman John Tanner has represented Tennessee’s 8th Congressional District since 1989. As a co-founder of the fiscally conservative Blue Dog Coalition, Tanner is considered to be one of the leading voices in Congress for restoring fiscal responsibility to our nation’s government. Tanner serves on the House Ways and Means Committee and the House Foreign Affairs Committee. He also chairs the U.S. delegation to the NATO Parliamentary Assembly. Tanner and his wife, Betty Ann, reside in Union City, Tennessee.
“I am honored to have the support of Congressman John Tanner,” said Hillary Clinton. “As co-founder of the Blue Dog Coalition, John has spent his career in Congress fighting to eliminate our national debt and restore fiscal soundness to our nation’s government. John is known as a common sense, results-oriented leader, and I look forward to having him join me in spreading my message of change and experience across America.”
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http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/23/clinton-snags-prominent-southern-blue-dog-superdelegate/
hillary got a new superdelegate today ,,,but ofcourse media will not mention it ,,so pls post the link everywhere
Excellent! Who cares if Wolf mentions it? It is what it is!
You say the media won’t mention then link to the media for the story.
Please type in google
define:pathetic liar
Oh how cute. We could barely see your lips moving Barry …..
liar ,who ,,,,i di not hear wright speaking in that church
actually
we are typical white people who are bitter and cling to guns and church
and we are the ones whom obama said ,,,,I CAN GET HILLARY SUPPORTERS BUT HILLARY CAN,T GET MINE,,,,
WE ARE those voters whom u obamabots call,,,,white trash,,low income,,,uneducated,,,,rural area,,,,working folks,,,,old women,,,,,dumb,,,stupid ,,,,,brainless,,,
we heard all that on tv ,,and on pro-obama blogs
so thats why we will never vote for obama
do i hear***you are proud of this for the first time****
do i hear ***god damn america***
wright said ,,,,hillary never been called a n*gg*e*r*
well obama never been called ***b*i*t*c*h*
no media is looking at obama,s wrinkles,,clevage,,ankles,,a*s*s
so pls,,,,,,
clean ur mind ,,think of all the wrong that you obamabots,,,obama,,media,,michelle,,have done to us
Racist much? Afraid of the Black man?
Yay John Tanner! Excellent news! (and another secret tightly kept by MSM)
Thank so much for this link! I’ll be forwarding it on to all that I know.
Speaking of Andrea Mitchell… I saw her early on Morning Joe right after Hillary had just spoken. Her contention is that despite PA, there are plenty of female Democrats — good friends of Hillary — that tell her that they really want to see Hillary back out now. She stopped, and looked down at her Blackberry, and started quoting from one of the many female, Democrat friends of Hillary that want her to bow out gracefully. According to the mystery Blackberry woman, “…just when it’s time for her to drop out, she has another win. Regardless… it’s time for Hillary to back out for the sake of the Party…”
Just wondering… who was that Democrat, Donna Brazille? That was such a Crock. No “good” friend of Hillary would ever back-stab her that way! I could see Mary Steenburgen anxiously texting Andrea Mitchell first thing after PA! Such shite!
I knew when they were throwing this out so early this morning, that they were going to spin, spin, spin like crazy for BO today. Mike Barnacle then responded with… “BO is too much of a nice guy. He really needs to throw her a good punch and knock her out..” This is all starting to look and feel like a media gang-rape. They have no shame whatsoever “punching her out” but yet, they treat BO as if he was their child. Or, as Maureen Dowd calls him, “the Blessed Child.” This is so pathologically sick and pathetic. They can’t even give Hillary a one day reprieve from the B.S.
Wow, he nailed it!
They treat Obama like their child? Then explain why Chris Mathews is the first and ONLY person in the media that is speaking the truth. He is the only person that has made it clear Hillary cannot win. Everyone else is perpetuating the myth that she has a chance to keep morons tuning in for the “close” race. As close as it may appear Clinton is completely out of options and out of hope.
Ummmm…I think she won last night in PA and in OH, TX, CA, RI, NV, NM, MA, MI, FL, AR, TN, OK, NY…oh you get the picture.
Oh cry the Obamatrons…she’s broke, she can’t go on!!! Until she raised $10 million while she was sleeping last night. She didn’t even have to go to a Pacific Heights fundraiser given by a Republican to raise that money.
Face it, if the Dems want to LOSE in November they’ll nominate BO, if they want to WIN they’ll nominate HRC. The choice is that simple. If Massachusetts (MASSACHUSETTS!!) is tied with this loser top of ticket (and the Repubs haven’t even started yet) how the hell do we win. Good God, you people have no SENSE!
so you get your info from mr. i feel a tingling up my leg whenever obama speaks. explains a lot.
Auto– This is the basic problem with Obamabotrons — you have absolutely no concept whatsoever of the Democratic Party, its history, nor do you have any connection, loyalty to it. BO’s campaign is comprised mainly of: Blacks, young, naive, kids, Elitist dilettantes, Independents, and Obamacans — this is NOT the real, true, Democratic Party. And, when this “party” is all said and done, and you have crashed it, invaded it, hijacked it, and are finished with wreaking havoc with it, you will invariably go on to a new thing — some new Wii game, perhaps?
This is NOT a game for the REAL Democrats, that is why you do not and will not EVER understand what we are talking about it. You are NOT a REAL Democrat, so simply put… you do NOT get “it.” Real Democrats do NOT take marching orders from Tweety Matthews or anyone else in the Big Media. So, I do NOT care what he says or thinks — but, you do. That is inherently your problem.
Please get off this site, go finish your homework, and crack open a history book, learn something before your presume to tell the Adults how “it” is.
Brava!
Hmmm problem is for the last 8 years there has not been enough real Democrats to allow you to win the general election.
So your best hope is a candidate that can convince others as well as the real Democrats to support his/her goals.
So instead of complaining that he is gaining more support from non traditional Democrats. How about keeping the argument to the issues and ask is he standing for the ideas and principals of the democratic party. If the answer is yes or close enough or even as close as say HRC. Then surly the candidate that can convince both democrats and independents and even some republicans who are fed up with the current party. Is the very candidate you need to build the success of the democratic party.
Auto– This is the basic problem with Obamabotrons — you have absolutely no concept whatsoever of the Democratic Party, its history, nor do you have any connection, loyalty to it. BO’s campaign is comprised mainly of: Blacks, young, naive, kids, Elitist dilettantes, Independents, and Obamacans — this is NOT the real, true, Democratic Party. And, when this “party” is all said and done, and you have crashed it, invaded it, hijacked it, and are finished with wreaking havoc with it, you will invariably go on to a new thing — some new Wii game, perhaps?
This is NOT a game for the REAL Democrats, that is why you do not and will not EVER understand what we are talking about here. You are NOT a REAL Democrat, so simply put… you do NOT get “it.” Real Democrats do NOT take marching orders from Tweety Matthews or anyone else in the Big Media. So, I do NOT care what he says or thinks — but, you do. That is inherently your problem.
Hillary has every chance, and every opportunity to win OUR Party’s nomination, because people, voters — not the Media, not Obama, not the Party Elites — will decide. I know that this is a foreign concept to someone as gullible as you.
Please get off this site, go finish your homework, and crack open a history book, learn something about the Democratic Party before your presume to tell the Adults how “it” is.
Auto– This is the basic problem with Obamabotrons — you have absolutely no concept whatsoever of the Democratic Party, its history, nor do you have any connection, loyalty to it. BO’s campaign is comprised mainly of: Blacks, young, naive, kids, Elitist dilettantes, Independents, and Obamacans — this is NOT the real, true, Democratic Party. And, when this “party” is all said and done, and you have crashed it, invaded it, hijacked it, and are finished with wreaking havoc with it, you will invariably go on to a new thing — some new Wii game, perhaps?
This is NOT a game for the REAL Democrats, that is why you do not and will not EVER understand what we are talking about here. You are NOT a REAL Democrat, so simply put… you do NOT get “it.” Real Democrats do NOT take marching orders from Tweety Matthews or anyone else in the Big Media. So, I do NOT care what he says or thinks — but, you do. That is inherently your problem.
Hillary has every right, chance, and every opportunity to win OUR Party’s nomination, because people, voters — not the Media, not Obama, not the Party Elites — will decide. I know that this is a foreign concept to someone as gullible as you.
Please get off this site, go finish your homework, and crack open a history book, learn something about the Democratic Party before your presume to tell the Adults how “it” is.
I believe Obama has been trying really, really hard for several months to “knock her out”. The woman is a brick house. She cannot be blown down. She just bounces right back.
Obama should just give it up. He cannot defeat this woman, no matter how nasty he gets. She does not get all sniffy and run to the corner and sulk like he does. She smiles and says something nice.
Face it, Obama may say he “brushes his shoulder off”. He doesn’t. Hillary has shown much more ability to take a hit than he ever will.
“with friends like these…”
Holy Chit! Ten Million in one night?????????????
i know
i am so happy
i actually slept good last night
we should all keep on blogging,,making calls,,,fixing media,,,,,
we refuse to be kicked out
I have decided to do phone calling for her. I wish I wasn’t as strapped to the house as I was right now with my little one, I would go to Indiana or North Carolina to work for her if I had that choice to make right now.
me too
i have 2 boys
and handicapped mother in law and father in law
but i paste links and i share pro hillary links with other hillary supporters on fox,,taylor marsh
and i make calls
and i e-mail to nasty people to stop trashing hillary
Could you email nasty people to stop trashing Obama as well? Or is it ok as long as it is your side doing the trashing?
The site owners here may find it inappropriate for you to post that commercial link of yours over and over again. Your Web host may also consider it spamming, as well as your upstream if you are involved in a MLM/pyramid business.
You never did address the crux of my remarks. Try again:
If you wish a legitimate debate you may want to tone down your rhetoric. Telling people “You are talking out of your ass” illegitimizes any points you are trying to make which is the opposite of your intended goal.
And bravado like “don’t have the balls or brains to beat me in a debate” makes you look like a novice.
Some may also consider it rude for someone to come in here in full attack mode when people are having a well deserved day of celebration.
Don’t bother. She won’t win here in North Carolina. Sorry.
,,,fixing media,,,,,
fixing media,eh? Isn’t that what the Clinton camp has been doing all along?
Moving the goalposts and setting ever changing and fully unrealistic ways that Hillary wins is nothing more that psychopathic insanity.
btw, usually on the interwebs, people use … not,,,
I think this is called…..MOMENTUM…..
Holy Mother of God! $$ 10 million in one night.
That should shut up the CNN pundits.
Just made my contribution today. Hope this continues so that the $$$s won’t be an issue for her for IN. Of course, she got the win in PA while being outspent.
Yes, good for her. She will still lag behind Obama and 10 million is just enough to pay off the debt she has on the books. But I’m sure her fiscally irresponsible self will continue to throw good money at bad campaigning.
Get this through your skulls, SHE CAN’T WIN. Every dollar sent to her is a waste.
I know that, like most Obamazoids, you are on “Autopilot” so let me be brief.
Barack Obama will NEVER be president.
Hillary will never be President for fact. Obama has a real shot at it.
Are you racist?
Hey autopilot, how old are you? I have the distinct impression you’re not eligible to vote. Am I right (and if so, sorry to blow your cover).
The igit thinks you are a racistist….BO has money to burn on silly trolls.
Empire you are really in deed of some kool-aid.
That bar is down the street. turn left at the intersection of Michigan and Florida and there is a little hole in the wall called Obama’s “Typical White Person” bar and grill.
They have a happy hour just for trolls.
And every post made here is a moment of your life you’ll never get back.
Stop wasting my life too.
wow,,you are so positive person
are you proud of this country for the first time ???
are you part of black value system ??
are you part of trinity church ???
are friends of rezko ??
are you embarrsed of ur middle name ??
are you sick of washington and have ted keendy and kerry the oldest washington ur side????
“Every dollar sent to her is a waste?”
I can smell the Oborg flopsweat from here…LOL!
Pay attention now- we are not in a betting parlor-there is no spread to cover, no over/under.
SHE kicked his sorry behind all over PA. She took some counties in the I-79 corridor by 65-35 margins. He can not win the Dem base- you remember us??? Working class, gun toting, religion clinging folks who came out in record numbers yesterday????
Your candidate was a fool to run with his terrorist friends and his thin resume- HE CAN NOT WIN! EVER!
Even the stupidest of Dean’s minions reads exit polls- we are not EVER voting for that poor excuse for a politician- Obama.
Really stupid to bet 4 to 1 with ad dollars and lose.
We don’t buy snake oil here.
You don’t buy snake oil, you sell it.
Speaking as one of the Deomocratic base (38, white, family man, and proud gun owner who voted for Bill) I am voting for Obama, and I’m not alone.
I don’t need another president who’s going to lie to me about WMD’s in Iran or sniper fire in Bosnia or flip flop all over about her dealings with NAFTA.
She may have had a 9.3 lead in points, but that’s a far cry from “kicked his sorry behind all over PA” as you say. And even with that lead, Obama still came out with more delegates than she did from PA.
The delegate count is what matters, not the point spread.
I commend you for standing behind your candidate of choice, but the race is nearly over, and Obama is way out in front in the delegate count.
I AGREE. HOLY SH*********T!!!!!!
Susan!!
Wow. I think I’m having a heart attack. That’s incredibly wonderful!
(tears)
PS, I love this blog. Thank you.
I’m with you! I love this blog as well!
I hate quoting Barack Obama, but “I love you back.”
I love this blog and I lurve the good people of the Keystone State. Is there anyway we can thank them? I’m writing a letter to Gov. Rendell pledging to take a vacation in PA and spend tourist dollars! I wish there were a place to leave messages of thanks.
I can’t get on the site to donate. I have never been so eager to part with my cash.
Thank you, NoQuarter.
Since I will no longer financially support the DNC until the Deans, Pelosis, and Kennedys are disabled, I intend to donate to candidates like Rendell and Nutter directly.
Those who show themselves responsible or brave enough to support Clinton get my money, period.
And I was thinking of Feingold, whom I truly admired once.
If he’s not smart enough to vet Obama, or think it’s OK to enable a guy with ties to terrorism, foist a piece of shit like that on the American public, esp after Bush and Cheney, he’s not qualified, or worthy, of the office of President.
Ever.
And I would not have said that 10 months ago.
Hey, did you know Rendell gave a speech praising Farrakhan(sp?) and the Nation of Islam with Farrakhan sitting next to him about 10-15 years ago?
You forgot to call the poster Sweetie and offer a kiss for a button. You can’t be like Barack Obama unless you add all his sexist lines in.
Is that your cell phone, Uppity? Or are you just happy to see me? lol
You should be ashamed of yourself for this garbage of a blog. Ashamed. It’s easy to celebrate a win without lies and spin but you just couldn’t do it. Whatever it is you hate about Obama has turned you into a snake (if you weren’t one already). It’s ugly, very very ugly.
Which part is wonderful? The fact that she’s in worse shape today than she was before PA voted, the fact that she can afford to pay off her old debt or the fact that she can’t win so this ugly race is over?
You are really suffering over last night aren’t you? Good.
Which part do you refute? I expected last night, it solidified Obama’s lead.
This part:
That the Primary is not over until the last vote is counted.
That the numbers from last night’s PA Primary are only part of the picture and the whole picture states pretty clearly that according to ALL of the demographics that Hillary has won in ALL of the primaries thus far say that Barack Obama is unelectable in the GE.
Another fact you Obamorons like to gloss over is that he won’t have enough delegates etiher after the Primary is over to clinch the nom and that the SDs will have to decide. This is why the SDs were put in place to begin with. To look at the WHOLE PICTURE and make a decision as to which candidate will win in Nov.
You are going to Denver with demographics that simply eat Obama alive. And each day that Obama struts his arrogant misogynistic, non-experienced, lightweight ass in front of the US voting public he loses bigger chunks of the Democratic voting base.
This is why he sends his legions of satanic messengers to blogs like no quarter to bully with absurd drive-by comments about Hillary. He wants her desperately to quit, so that he can go into hiding, then re-emerge and like a phoenix rising from the ashes, try to con the American voters that he will somehow be able to magically transform Washington even in the face of all that the country is facing. Like everyone in Congress is going to role over and play dead while he ‘changes’ things.
Hey pal, it would do some of Obama’s supporters good to pay attention to a not-so little document called the US Constitution. It has a lot of interesting tidbits about ‘checks & balances’ and the 3 branches of government that have worked since 1776.
Bottom line: Obama will NEVER be President!
But more important to me and this you CAN take to the bank: Obama will NEVER get my vote. He will have to
WIN WITHOUT ME!
Mimi, I always love your posts! Thanks for pointing out in logical form our argument!
Makes you think he must have conned people quite easily before this race.
Yawn…
Speaking of boring old farts, Cheney, and Bush appointed Petraeus as the new chief of cent comm.
Poor guy.
First, he’s associated with the worst, and most corrupt presidential administration ever, their butt boi, their lapdog, and secondly, that appointment at this time would indicate a downward move, they’re (and who are they? only the shadow knows, fer sure, do0ds) looking to dump him.
IMO.
It’s typical Bush pushback.
Ignore it.
Yes, simon, I read that; you might be right about a move downward to dump him.
I’ll try to catch up on Rezko later; saw you posted some updates.
you are so sweet,,,,are you actually even 18 yet and registered to vote
we are typical white people who are bitter and cling to guns and church
and we are the ones whom obama said ,,,,I CAN GET HILLARY SUPPORTERS BUT HILLARY CAN,T GET MINE,,,,
WE ARE those voters whom u obamabots call,,,,white trash,,low income,,,uneducated,,,,rural area,,,,working folks,,,,old women,,,,,dumb,,,stupid ,,,,,brainless,,,
we heard all that on tv ,,and on pro-obama blogs
so thats why we will never vote for obama
do i hear***you are proud of this for the first time****
do i hear ***god damn america***
wright said ,,,,hillary never been called a n*gg*e*r*
well obama never been called ***b*i*t*c*h*
no media is looking at obama,s wrinkles,,clevage,,ankles,,a*s*s
so pls,,,,,,
clean ur mind ,,think of all the wrong that you obamabots,,,obama,,media,,michelle,,have done to us
Can I get an AMEN!
NO OBAMA EVER!
Holy Cow, and I haven’t even sent anything to her yet. I wonder how many other people out there have it on their To Do list and haven’t even chipped in yet? When I saw that she had raised $2.5 million in hours last night I didn’t feel the immediate urgency to ante up.
I just now sent in my donation!
Yikes, what a waste!
Our money our joy !!
yup
what a waste you are ,,,,
got sick of obama website ,,so throwing the negativity here
keep it up
be proud of ur country for the first time
do i hear***you are proud of this for the first time****
do i hear ***god damn america***
We must be doing something right. The troll numbers have gone up by the same factor as BOBO outspent her multiplied by 1.10 percent …. roughly the amount by which she beat him!
Autopilot, do your parents have any idea how you’re spending your time?
Nor should you, unless you like paying off old bills of a dying campaign.
Bill Richardson could tell you a thing or two ’bout that.
Really hurts, doesn’t it? I mean poor Barry! I hear he had a tantrum in the candy aisle last night.
Barry is biting his pillow….
I’ve read that Obama’s grandiose and unrealistic plan to bankrupt Clinton is the impetus for this drive.
Keep up the good work, Autopilot!
She can use whatever. I think PA put her 10 mill in the hole. Though I think Penn should make a donation of the remainder owed by the campaign.
She’s about $9M in the black right now. But you’re right. She needs more.
Please send in what you can. Every NEW donor adds up and is a show of grassroots support for her to take to big donors.
Wow: that’s awesome : 10M !!!!!! YEAH!! WE the people want HRC as our next US president!!
This is kind of OT, but Rob brought it up earlier, and I thought I’d bring it up again, FYI:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-23-apr23,1,4967065.column (link via rezkowatch)
John Kass of the Chicago Tribune as a little more information about Dohrn, and Ayers, and their goals for, as he puts it, “global revolution.”
I was wondering how this may translate into modern day cyberterrorism, in connection with guys like Auchi, and Hamas, say, or the PLO?
We had all those hacks last week, remember, all those pro obama people?
I don’t mean to imply anything, I’m just curious.
And I donated twice to Hillary, and will do again, Friday, or Monday…
Is there a Weather Underground and Red October connection…( I’m thinking of that radical german terrorist group… not sure of the name ) What I do remember is that it seemed as if all those groups were interconnected 60’s through the 80’s. Just wondering…
Yes, there was (is?).
AH, I loved Red October. great movie-cool subs.
Wait till America meets Rashid Khalidi and Zbigniew Brezinski. Coming to your theater soon!
and we the people refuse to be kicked out
we refuse to be counted
and we support the fighter and the strongest leader that we need HILLAR RODHAM CLINTON
AND HSE IS PROUD OF HER NAME TOO!!!!!!!!
YES: HRC is proud of her name, of her country and of its people: of US . And we will fight with her all the way, for her to be our next President.
It’s impossible, but feel free to flail away as you have been.
You must feel so bitter today… It shows.
Proud of her country and it’s people?
“Hillary also attacked working-class white southerners who had forsaken the Democratic party, and in an oblique way she took on her husband as well. ‘Screw ‘em,’ she said, ‘you don’t owe them a thing, Bill, they’re doing nothing for you.’”
Ya, sounds like someone who loves all the people she’d govern and not just those that vote for her.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2007/10/hillary-and-mis.html
Not unless by “people” you mean the group of people that don’t even match the number of people that want Obama as the next President. You do realize Hillary is losing no matter how much she says otherwise right? lol
You realize more people voted for her than him, right?
I know you’re not familiar with reality, but the rest of us live there. Get acclimated.
No! No! Only the votes that Dean and Brazile say count, count!
“It’s not the people who vote that count. It’s the people who count the votes.” – Josef Stalin
You do realize that she signed a pledge not to participate in Michigan? Obama took his name off the ballot because he signed the same pledge. She once again lied and kept her name on the ballot, thus giving her those “votes”. If you remove them, she does not have the vote count. How’s that for reality?
Only if you believe that the voters in Michigan and Florida have suddenly disappeared off the face of the earth.
If you believe that disenfranchising two key states is the smartest path to the White House, then you obviously have no need for Koolaide. You already got to the campaign brain dead.
The Obama camp reminds me of W’s more and more.
Thats funny, I’ve been thinking the same thing about Hillary. She continues to move the goal posts of success, which is exactly what Bush has been doing with the War in Iraq.
You obviously mean:
Only if you believe that the voters in Michigan and Florida have suddenly disappeared off the face of the earth.
If you believe that disenfranchising two key states “that intentionally broke party rules and were held responsible for breaking the rules”
Yes, I’m sure that will work in November when Precious it trying to win their votes against McCain.
BO: “you must understand, we couldn’t take into account your votes during the primary because of the RULEZ…”(sub-text, because it means I don’t “win”).
The ex-POW: “there is no more important right than the right to vote and have your votes counted….”(sub-text, the war hero HUMBLY asks for and seeks to earn each and every vote).
Gee, I wonder who wins.
His name wasn’t even on the ballot moron. She is up by 10k, you don’t think he’d pull 10k out of Michigan? Seriously, grow up.
Yea, I am a MI Dem and I am glad they aren’t seating the delegates. I’d rather have a fair contest, Clintonistas. Its not disenfranchisement, its fairness.
Watch and learn.
And get back to class! Your parents are at work to pay for your education and here you are with your slug butt fretting over the fact that Hillary handed Baby Jesus his ass on a plate last night.
Ditto that Uppity- aen’t there final exams coming up and RESEARCH papers due?
Oh, they don’t do research for facts- jsut SPIN, SPIN, SPIN.
I see a lot of “F”’s going on the grade reports.
are you running low on ur kool aid ????
sorry to hear that
we don,t have any free kool aid
wedont pay or buy votes
we here are all working folks
go to obama website ,,,there they serve kool aid
and they buy superdelegates and voters
Auto…You sound like a PETULANT PILLOW BITER…
jesus h. christ!
$10 mill in 15 hours?
the dam broke last night with a roar.
the truman democrats now know with absolute certainly who their champion is.
rise
hillary
rise.
The dam most likely broke because there was a giant suction from her 10 million of debt. She raised enough to pay it off but I have $5 that says she doesn’t. She can’t even manage a simple campaign with a huge advantage and you want her to run the country? loool
we don,t have any free kool aid
we dont pay or buy votes
we here are all working folks
go to obama website ,,,there they serve kool aid
and they buy superdelegates and voters
actually, Obama DID NOT give out any machine money to the ward leaders…Clinton won’t comment.
The problem with that is that he thumbed his nose at a practise in the very area that have been the most loyal: the AA community. He did it to the very people who he claims to be aligned with ethnically. People who actually NEED this money.
But you wouldn’t know about that whiteyfresh.
Sadly, they still gave him their support. It says something about the mass psychosis afflicting the AA community with regard to Obama’s candidacy. They have in effect made themselves irrelvant during this campaign. And perhaps in years to come especially when Obama loses.
Good job Obama!
Everythign against projected earnings, which would be prudent, there must be SOME risk, some investment.
So, anyway, if you know a little about business, she’s OK.
I wanna know how Obama bought his house, with THAT credit record, and no real earnings.
Really.
And then I want to know the truth about his campaign finances, cause a lot of people think it’s a load of shit, all that “grassroots” support.
Where is the money coming from?
More kickbacks, ala Rezko? The Chicago way? (snicker)
Ah, should be fun to find out…
Auto– who do you work with the IRS? Why are you so damned concerned about Hillary’s finances? Get off this site, do your Math homework, and please graduate first before you start giving advice about budgets and campaign finances to the ADULTS.
http://thepage.time.com/clinton-camp-memo-on-obama-negative-attacks/
Clinton Camp Memo on Obama Negative Attacks
ITS LENGTHY ……SO IDID NOT WANNA COPY IT
BUT PLS post it everywhere ,,,paste and copy ,,,,on all the major news media,,and news papers ,,,,,,like huff,,nytimes,,,time,,cnn,,msnbc,,,fox,,,dailykos..
Is Obama’s negative strategy memo that Bill was talkin about on the net…
i am not sure
i love bill ,,,,
but he should stay out of the media and just campaign
So now Obama, months and months after attacks start, deflecting Clinton’s lies by pointing out facts about her is “negative campaigning”. You guys have drank A LOT of the kool-aid.
go to obama website ,,,there they serve kool aid
and they buy superdelegates and voters
wow. Nice cut and paste from a previous post. Too hard to think up something new to type?
My buddy Laslo and I came up with a new soubriquet for McCain last night.
McThuselah
Yeah he’s on a “poverty” visit trail. It’s hysterical to watch him visiting poor people. Too bad he still looks better to me than Obama.
the dead nixon looks better to me than obama.
poor little obamabots are so upset that their guy isn’t being given what he doesn’t deserve.
axelrod says dems don’t win working class white votes - wow, axelrod, what a way to court working class white votes, just tell them they’re repubs. keep saying crap like that and they WILL be repubs. idiot.
OK, THAT’S funny. Tell your friend he made me laugh!
Awesome….
Can you enter Hillary’s website??? I cannot; it is timed-out repeatedly. Any idea why?
I hope it hasn’t been hacked….
I’d like to think that they are getting more and more donations, but I’m the optomist!
Too me a longtime to get the contribution page to load. That’s a good sign!
It’s very slow due to the HUGE influx of NEW contributors.
and I still haven’t gotten my “receipt” so they must be really backed up. Now that’s good news!
No, they’re just stealing your money. That’s all.
OMG, that is freakin’ amazing! You’re right, orionATL, the dam has finally burst, and it couldn’t have come at a more critical time. I for one am sick to death at hearing about what an amazing fundraiser Sen. Gutter Ball is.
Elite men are his base. Of course they have extra money to give him. A lot of Hillary’s donor’s make 72 cents for every dollar they make. A lot of them make under $50,000 a year, or are on Social Security. But they give anyway. I read posts last night on the blog on Hillary’s site of all kinds of poor people giving their money to her because they believe in her and need such luxuries as Health Insurance and gas prices they can afford.
you’ve got to wonder just how much soros and the insurance companies have given and funneled to barry.
Wow are you dumb. You are correct that she needed it, she has lots of bills to pay before she loses this thing.
You’re sick to death of hearing the truth about how Obama revolutionized fundraising? Everything he has done is GOOD for the party, unlike your precious Clinton.
Elite men are his base? Try again. He has support from all walks of life and lots of it. The majority of his donations are from regular people like me while Hillary gets most of her money from the ELITE that want to remain in control.
You read it on her blog so it’s where all her money came from? When I link you to 22 things that refute that will you run and hide or admit you were speaking out of ignorance?
Does your cat sit on your lap and do you stroke it while you write this drivel?
Was your last posting job porn sites?
The quality of your “intellectual” discourse is, well, minus intellectual.
Reading about Ayers, and his “bombs” well, Bill is a lot of gas, too much access to dynamite, and little talent and brains, right?
The kind of guy who brags he’s a plumber, but the closet he ever comes is flushing his toilet, every morning. And in his head, flushing a toilet is a significant, revolutionary act.
Every time I come across an Obama troll, or a Bush troll for that matter, I just think “Ayers.”
Go home and get your facts straight. If you care to see the kind of idiotic drivel that companies use to get their employees to donate go to my blog.
Reality is that Obama gets MILLIONS from oil company, ins. Company and Pharmaceutical execs, their wives and employees.That money enabled him to outspend her and it made one damn bit of difference here in PA.
We will not vote for somebody with connections to terrorists. We know there is more to the sordid past of Obama that has not yet been revealed.
I will agree with one thing- it is over- His run is done.
So when he wins this Nomination, we look forward to you helping to elect Barack over McCain this fall.
You know whitey, it wouldn’t matter if we all did try and elect BO in November. The Repubs have not even begun and by the time their finished with him a Dukakis like performance will be asking A LOT. I think we’re going to be in Goldwater / McGovern territory if the Dems insist on this guy.
I love George McGovern BTW, he was also undone by his ’supporters’.
Hate to tell ya but Hillary gets “MILLIONS” from corporations and lobbyists. Accusing Obama of something that Hillary is known for herself doesn’t exactly come out as a good argument.
Only he ran ads on television saying he doesn’t do those things?
Where are you assholes coming from?
Koolaide run out? No more mother’s milk from Obamasan?
Never said he didn’t. I just said Hillary takes in that money too. I’m as “asshole” for pointing out a fact? Way to respond like a grown up.
Contrary to the hype of the Obamazoid press, not all people with money and education support the Baby Jesus.
I personally wouldn’t give him a dime if I got this year’s taxes forgiven. I hate him that much.
Wow, what happened in your life to make you so-dare I- bitter? You obviously have some issues you need to work through. I worry for you, but pray you’ll get the help you need.
SO TRUE!!!! the Elitist men from Wall Street — all of the Bundlers, Bundlers, and more Bundlers who also happen to either be or work for Lobbyists. Give me a break with the “I don’t take lobbyists money” crap.
BTW–I just donated to HRC again today!!! Yay!!!
So how to you explain that he has over 1,000,000 unique donors and the average donation of around $200? Yep, sure sounds ‘Elite’ to me.
Forgot to ask - how is Hillary loaning $5 MILLION of her own money not Elite?
Hillary has worked hard all of her life, and actually, she sold a book that garnered her millions, just like dare I say?… BO. What? He’s the only one entitled to sell books and make a profit. How silly to be begruding Hillary of making money while Elitist the Dilettante just obscenely squandered close to $1 Million/day in his desperate attempt to squash Hillary. Sorry, some voters just can’t be bought.
That memo link is HYSTERICAL!!! Really sounds confident don’t it! Thas right my lil obamazoids, run scared, run real scared. Cause the gloves are off, or the “claws are out” if you prefer and you’re candidate is increasingly being shown to the voting public to be the egomaniacal, race baiting, misogynistic, America hater loving, racist mentored, corrupt moneyman mentored loser of a candidate to be fielded possibly in this nations HISTORY! Go check out the adds the repugs are running in NC. And they’re just the start. Think only repugs are gonna see those adds? And there’s PLENTY more where they came from. And the most DAMNING part is they have the tape of YOUR guy and his supporters, mentors and advisors saying and doing it! Stick a fork in him, he may be able to steal the nomination, but he has just slightly LESS then a snowballs chance to make it through hell going as the flaming crow flies.
Wow, that’s a lot of words for someone so stupid. Got any more lies you want to squeeze in there or did you get it all out of your system?
He may be able to STEAL the nomination? You mean the guy with more votes, more delegates, more money and more support can steal from the person LOSING? The same person that started with 200 some delegates before anyone else had one? Clinton is trying to break the rules at every corner, win with lies (such as yours) and get elected delegates to switch. That my friend is what stealing is.
Hillary cannot win. If you could do basic math you would understand that.
Please … your spittle is starting to interfere with my computer operation ….
How old are you? 17?
Unless Barry reaches 2025 all by his little self, your bleating is worthless.
Correct….This is going to the Convention and the little Pillow Biter and his minions cannot stand it.
This is something the likes of these trolls can’t seem to grasp (and no amount of trigonometry will get them there).
Did I mention I actually skipped 5th grade at D.W. Babcock Elementary School??
Screw those latte-sipping elitists and their trigonometry!
we know math. we also know elections. your guy can’t win any big states except illinois. and he can’t win those red states he got caucus “victories” in.
obamabots seem to think that general election voters are like primary voters. they forget that half the country doesn’t think like them. add that to the half of dems that don’t think like them, and what do you get? mcgovern. but at least mcgovern was a nice guy, unlike your guy.
general elections are about the middle. hillary gets the middle. obama will never get the middle in a general. bye bye.
Why wouldn’t he take New York over McCain? Why wouldn’t he take California over McCain?
Those states big enough for you?
the numbers are saying he’s already losing ground in both of them. and that’s before the repubs even get started. obamabi is quite capable of losing ny and cal to mccain. and that’s hard to do.
Aha, do you even realize that BOTH Obama and Clinton have enough support in normal democratic strongholds to beat McCain? That’s considering 0 of her supporters back him.
10 Million in less than 24 hours?
All I can say is God Bless The People of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and
their Governor, Ed Rendell…
and of course my new favorite person in the world, Mayor Michael Nutter!!
Yes … let’s hear it for the Pennsylvania leadership. Ed Rendell and Mayor Nutter ROCK …
I want to make them into ACTION HEROES for the Democratic Party.
i think
we should find nutter,s e-mail add
and send him a thank you letter with 1000or more signs or names
or may be just everyone send one individual e-mail saying thanks
i wouldn’t mind seeing him in the veep position. he has charisma of his own - sorta of a older more mature version than the annointed.
Nutter needs to do national….Could be possible for congress or even Rendell’s successor. He has a bright future in politics.
I don’t want to see or hear of him anywhere. Nobody needs him wheeling and dealing with Pakistan and Hamas from anywhere near the White House. I want him to be “What’s that guy’s name again?—the one who ran for president?”.
Uppity…we were talking about Mayor Nutter.
Ron Paul?
My goodness yes!
I think the pod-people have stolen the wrong body…
I can see all the while it was Mayor Nutter staying up all night, fighting and resisting the seductive urge to sleep…
He is an action hero!
Mayor Nutter is AWESOME, and as Gov. Rendell said last night, he is one helluva brave man that deserves the JFK Profiles in Courage Award. He would make an exceptional V.P. Philadelphia had become such a violent city with black market guns everywhere. And, Mayor Nutter interviwed Hill and BO. He chose Hillary because she has a PLAN for inner-cities like Philly. As a matter of fact, she has a plethora of plans, idea, more plans and more ideas for the ISSUES, ISSUES that face our country. No a bunch of jibber-jabber rhetoric — ACTION.
Hillary should be an Action Hero!!!
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/blogs/wolcott/2008/04/shorter-new-yor.html
The Great Oz Has Spoken
Shorter New York Times editorial:
Hillary Clinton’s ruthless insistence on winning big-state primaries with traditional Democratic voters only hastens and strengthens the case that she drop out of the race and let Barack Obama finish his waffle.
Like we give a shit about VANITY FAIR ….
please …. they kind of lost any journalistic integrity when pregnant women took over the covers ….
Huh?
Bee…disagree with you on that one…They have been pretty steady and important critics of the Bush catastrophe….Even if they seem to suport baby-O…Their last article on him bombed big with the readers…
beebop, I think you misunderstood the article. They were chastising the New York Times for their senseless diatribe and basically saying shut up and let the voters vote.
Vanity Fair?
So far, has been fairly balanced, somewhat anti-Clinton, but no where NEAR as bad as Newsweek, Rolling Stone, the NYT’s, et al.
Are they all owned by the same people?
Graydon Carter was editor of SPY, at it’s best, right?
They slammed everyone.
I hope it stays neutral, or at least recognizes the truth, I’d HATE to have to give up reading it, as I have the others.
Fine, but I insist once again he have a milkshake on the side!!
lol
It’s about time: The media will now begin feasting on itself, rather than gorging themselves on our precious liberties and freedoms.
Hillary ‘08
PS: Andrea Mitchell is a disgusting human being. She may as well wear two buttons:
1.) Obama ‘08
2.) I hate Hillary because I’m the woman and ego-monster that should be President!
LOL….Yeah Andrea is a joke…but then look who she’s married to….
I will pay you $100,000 if you provide a logical argument to how Clinton can win without Obama dying. Is she going to magically win 80% of the vote in all the remaining states? lolol
Read Party history….Nuff said….The grownups will not let him be the candidate as he is UNELECTABLE….Now go and chew your pillow…Your candidate is headed for POLITCAL OBLIVION…..
When you get the 100 G’s, will you buy me a new guitar?
Thanks!
I want a pony!
By grownups you mean the middle aged women that make up the stupid section of the baby boomers?
count Florida and Michigan (which Howie keeps promising will happen), superdelegates. PAY UP.
I don’t want your money. But if Obama keeps speechifying and thrusting his chin upwards as he panders to billionaires by dissing ordinary people who comprise the electorate, he will simply kill himself slowly.
The more of Obama we see in debates
with his evasive answers, his condescension, and repetition of generalities, the more we can expect that he will cancel them as he just did re: CBS, and NCarolina.
Obama feels entitled not to be challenged, but expects to be president. Really?
Since the party has decided to “fix it” for him, they will surely see BO against McCain and watch a Dukakis
moment enfold.
To have the gaul to expect that his opponents would treat him like royalty is absurd
. This is hardly the nastiest campaign I have seen in my lifetime. Just think Bradley vs Gore, Bush vs McCain, Bush vs Max Cleleand, Nader vs Gore, Bush vs Kerry, Ford vs Reagan [a humdinger of nasty], and if you really want to go back to Philadelphia think of our Founders as John Adams was given one of the most vitriolic campaigns in history. Ditto Jefferson. The list goes on.
The Democratic Party has once again shot itself. Selecting a lightweight with a glass jaw, with no experience who was poorly vetted [in spite of his political skills at oratory], in moments as historically crucial domestically and dangerous internationally as we now find ourselves is monumentally incompetent political strategy. BO’s being AA is actually besides the point.
His natural disdain and sense of superiority will tag him elitist no matter what. He cannot connect with mainstream voters to close the deal.
How this Junior senator with virtually no experience who has done nothing can be the party favorite simply appears to have been chosen as the anti Clinton. Hw gives good speech.
Not even addressed are Rezko,Wright, Ayers,Farrakhan, and a cast yet to be fully addressed. Believe me, Hillary is nothing in this department. Wait for the 527’s.
The New York Times made a fool out of their editors today. They incorrectly called Hillary’s win as minor when it was over 10 points. Blaming her for negativity is a joke.
I have watched Obama patronize Hillary, insult her, call her names, and without provocation lie and mislabel her health plan as one that would “garnishee wages”. This isn’t smear and fear tactics? Hillary has clearly outlined that those who could not afford her plan would be subsidized.
Obama’s leaves millions of Americans out of his health plan, and to hell with them if they cannot afford to pay.
If Obama decides to don the mythic mantle of the “high road”, dream on. The voters will decide.
ROFL!
Lets make it $20M in the next 48 hours. We need to prove that Hillary supporters are invested in her and the DNC cannot just overthrow her.
Go Hillary 08
Why do you idiots resort to lies, half truths and attacks in an attempt to prove your misguided points?
“On MSNBC, Clinton’s national chair Terry McCaluliffe just announced that we’ve raised $10 million in cash since last night’s history-making election in Pennsylvania. There were 50,000+ donors. More cash is pouring in.”
Congrats, now Clinton can pay back her debt.
“She’ll need every penny we can spare because Obama, unbelievably (?), has endless cash flow.”
That’s because he has more support and a better operation.
“(Of course, he outspent her three-to-one in Pennsylvania, and still couldn’t win, or even come close.)”
He couldn’t huh? He closed a 30 point gap to 8.6. Ironically Clinton’s “BIG” win left her in worse shape than she started. She would now have to win a higher percentage of the remaining delegates than she needed before PA.
“ALSO BREAKING: Hillary has snagged an important Tennessee superdelegate. “Rep. John Tanner, a prominent Blue Dog Democrat, backs [Hillary].””
Good for her, unfortunately too little too late but you crazies never seem to notice little things like that.
“UPDATE: Vet4Hill has created a terrific new video on Hillary’s lead in the popular vote … it’s just below the fold:”
Her lead in the popular vote? You mean when they count Michigan where she was the only one on the ballot and Florida where she campaigned while the others didn’t? That’s so stupid it’s hilarious.
Now I’m sure you’ll censor anyone that doesn’t kiss your ass but I’ll be responding to your commentors here as well. All of you are drinking the spiked kool-aid and it’s rather pathetic. If this is a representation of Hillary supporters no wonder she’s doing so horribly.
actually
we are typical white people who are bitter and cling to guns and church
and we are the ones whom obama said ,,,,I CAN GET HILLARY SUPPORTERS BUT HILLARY CAN,T GET MINE,,,,
WE ARE those voters whom u obamabots call,,,,white trash,,low income,,,uneducated,,,,rural area,,,,working folks,,,,old women,,,,,dumb,,,stupid ,,,,,brainless,,,
we heard all that on tv ,,and on pro-obama blogs
so thats why we will never vote for obama
do i hear***you are proud of this for the first time****
do i hear ***god damn america***
wright said ,,,,hillary never been called a n*gg*e*r*
well obama never been called ***b*i*t*c*h*
no media is looking at obama,s wrinkles,,clevage,,ankles,,a*s*s
so pls,,,,,,
clean ur mind ,,think of all the wrong that you obamabots,,,obama,,media,,michelle,,have done to us
I’m a typical cracker ad I approve your comment…..Sam.
Now when you want to present your arguments without spinning them like Fox news maybe we can have an actual discussion. I put the odds of that at .01%.
Empire,
I never watch Fox and your assertion that anyone who disagrees with you is right wing is absurd.
It’s also incorrect. I don’t need to spin. Just go to todays Chicago Herald tribune and read all about Ayers and company and who Obama hung with. This is about one of the “radical chic” groups he courted along with Wright,Farrakhan, et all and threw Rezko into the mix in Daleyland to get the bucks to run
until he got to US Senate.
You might open your mind and read Tim Novak’s investigative reporting on Obama and Rezko in 2005, ‘06,’07 which are factually accurate in Chicago Sun Times. ww.suntimes.com
There is no need to spin. These are facts. When Obama leaves his Media swaddled bassinette, or is wrung from its protection, you might have the courage to take a look at some really unpleasant stuff not fitting a future president.
Ohhh, it’s up to a 30 point gap know? And you’re calling whom a liar?
Speaking of lies: Obama campaigned in Florida (via TV ads on Florida/SE cable), not Hillary.
Did they have cutbacks in Cheetoland, and they’re outsourcing the trolls now?
next week it’ll be 40. and the big fish he caught will be 100 pounds.
PMS,
Thanks for your post. The 30 points is sheer rot, and Obama removed his name [along with Edwards] from Michigan. Numbers in Michigan did not favor BO, and he hoped the “rule to exclude” would stick.
You are so right about Florida. Hillary never ran ads in Fla at all.
Obama did and he broke the rules. Precious had TV ads on cable, as you claim.
Where did Empire The Troll really come from?
Empire Autopilot: your name says it all
Empire: i.e. you are all ego
Autopilot: i.e. you are unable to think
Take a flight to NC where Obama needs you to do some
grass-root work for him.
Obama can sleep for the next 2 months and win the nomination. You are delusional sir, I’m almost sorry for you.
HATS OFF TO HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON, THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !!!!!!!!!
ooops, sorry to say it so loudly; we don’t want to wake baby Obama up; who has been sleeping since he
entered the state senate.
$1,000 if you give a logical path to the white house for her that doesn’t include Obama’s death.
Up for the challenge sir or are you all bark?
What exactly are you implying with this comment? I cannot give you direct citations to this information, so I would merely recommend you look at official Senate records. I can tell you that it may surprise you about how active our SLEEPING candidate has been.
Moreover, regardless of whether we are talking about Clinton vs. Obama or Clinton vs. Kucinich/Dodd/etc, I would never cast a vote for a politician who has a track record of deception, lying and backstabbing as she does. When are you going to take a step back and look ponder this? We have evidence this goes as far back as law school!
Finally, in the last election Democrats finally united to stand up against our Executive Branch policies including, but not limited to the status of Iraq. Now we are going to elect someone who has already threatened military action against Iran? So much for international diplomacy. I pride myself on my objectiveness when it comes to politics, so I this will be the last thing I say. IF Hillary takes this election (although the mathematical possibilities are nearly extinct), remind yourself in 2 years what I say here.
McCain or Hillary wins, our country will only continue along the current downward spiral. Its as simple as that.
Will grant him the nomination if you and your Obamabots take responsibility for the ensuing disaster that would take place with his candidacy. ALL CURRENT POLLING SHOWS OBAMA A MUCH WEAKER CANDIDATE THAN CLINTON THE POTENTIAL FOR A DOWN TICKET DISASTER IS LOOMING IF HE GETS THE NOMINATION. OR ARE YOU GOING TO BLAME THAT ON CLINTON TOO. GET A LIFE KNOW YOUR FACTS AND GO SOME PLACE ELSE.
AND IF HE IS THE SO CALLED PRESUMPTIVE CANDIDATE WHY IS HE LOSING RACES. THIS IS THE TIME HE SHOULD BE BUILDING A COALITION RATHER THAN TRYING TO TEAR DOWN THE TRADITIONAL DEMOCRATIC COALITION.
This is simply not true. Obama does not poll worse than Clinton against McCain in “all the polls”. As for tearing down the coalition, that would be Hillary. You know the one that can’t win, praises McCain, attacks Obama and sticks around just for a chance to run in 2012.
They’ll push him out.
Strange line of attack you’re taking, really old crap, given the changing dynamic.
This seems like something you cooked up about three weeks ago, and are unable to tweak, your thinking so tracked.
Stupid stuff, old guy.
http://www.eviltwinbooking.com/events.cfm?view=SPEAKERS&event_id=0&artist_id=7&dateCurrent=01-May-08
BTW, as you do have a tendency to go in with no scope, at all, make sure you’re not being fed, here.
The dumb trolls have a hard time differentiating.
Go check your polls released this week he is running consistently behind McCain. Do you think it is a good thing Obama is running even with McCain in MA and Hillary is up by 12 in MA. There are only so many resources a candidate can use and him he is using them in states where he should have an easy win then his candidacy his doomed. As far as a coalition why don’t you look up how Obama did with groups other than AAs. Don’t come here with gross generalities and expect them to fly.
you quote “all the polls” - what, did he give his pal zogby some more bucks to put out a positive result for him?
obama won’t even carry massachusetts against mccain. now that’s pathetic.
he would be better off sleeping for the next two months - would keep his foot out of his mouth and his finger out of his……
Yeah he might slip up and say something like he was dodging sniper fire in Bosnia or that he would obliterate Iran with nukes!
Stop bragging. He’s losing now. Lets see if he can deliver.
Let him sleep. We know the nomination is fixed and he can therefore never be legitimate. So let him sleep.
Andy:
Work is for the “little” people that Barack forgot to thank last night.
That’s right beebop; all those “little people” freezing in the streets of his own district in Chicago thanks to Obama.
Please keep this ‘person’ away from NC. The pollution is bad enough here as it is.
Watch who your calling an idiot sweetheart!
We’re the same misguided idiots that you’ll need come November and my memory is very long indeed.
I’m not above being petty when the Democratic Party no longer represents my interest.
Hello,
Are your comprehension skills over a 5th grade level? What are you going to do stay home? Vote for McCain? You are welcome to act in your illogical ways all you want.
As for getting offended at the use of the word ‘idiot’, the word was used accurately. Everyone is on here celebrating things that are of zero relevance. Hillary can’t win, just get over it and move on to whatever you are moving on to already.
Thanks for the advice!
After all, everything is on it’s way to somewhere…
Why are you still in 1st grade? It shows.
obamabots just keep telling us to vote mccain or stay home.
if he’s nominated,the obamabots will say oh no, vote for obama.
we’ll say that we’re taking their original advice.
after all, we wouldn’t want to be rude and not listen to them, would we?
Oh yes, when some illogical Hillary supporter says “I have a long memory” because I disputed their fairy tale with facts I should instead try to reason with them. I mean they’ve shown such intelligence up to that point that it would surely be a good strategy. People are going to do what they want. In 2 months or less Hillary herself will be backing Obama, if her loyal followers would rather vote Republican, well it’s a free country.
You can’t xerox the argument because it’s not applicable.
So you look stupid.
Again, this is where astroturf fails, and given you don’t understand why these arguments don’t work for Obama, you don’t understand how you’re being trolled, right now.
Just like the republican trolls, gosh, the dumbest I have ever seen.
And some of those idiots have phd’s.
yes, it is a free country. and your guy doesn’t get our votes. so stick it.
that’s free advice.
I have qualms with both Democratic candidates, but regardless of who wins the primary, I know for a fact that either one will do more good for this country than John McCain. You guys need to face it, you’re (and I mean both the Obama fanatics as well as the Clinton fanatics) letting yourselves lose sight of what’s important in this election, and (hint) it is not about campaign finances or smear tactics or minor electability issues. It is about restoring the country to a saner path after eight years of neoconservative social experimentation. McCain, especially when it comes to foreign policy, is nothing but a continuation of what we have been enduring recently.
From a policy standpoint, both Clinton and Obama seem to be driving in a similar direction. They may disagree on the specific path, but there seem to be more similarities than differences. I only wish both groups could get over there excessive fawning over their respective candidate long enough to see this. I, for one, will be voting for whomever wins the primary, and I wish all of you would too.
Ok, so according to who Hillary can’t win, Camp Obama, right now neither can win and in November without Fla and Mich, no Democrat will win, but Obama is scared to have a redo, because Obama doesn’t win when people speak without intimidation, wonder why, could it be that people simply think he is a lousy candidate, well aside from the large amount of Repuiblicans for a day Obama has had rally around him to bolster his numbers?
You are irrelevant and offensive.
Your autopilot is off.
Psst Empire Autopilot:
15 Millon people voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton
14.8 Millon voted for for Barack (censured middle name) Obama.
Yeah !! we’ll continue doing so “horribly”….
Here you go again.
Now do your math without counting the state that Obama wasn’t even on the ballot. Then do your math without the state that Obama didn’t campaign in. Obama would have carried Michigan, lost Florida and still be in the lead of EVERYTHING.
I should have said math AND common sense without lies to prove your point.
Oh, but he certainly was the only stumbling block to revoting.
The people in those states know the score. Do you ever leave the dark side and see what they are thinking?
He can carry detroit and the rest of the state goes to Hillary. Florida? hahahahha …. gee, thanks, I need a laugh because your “comments” are just too ludicrous (not the rapper) for words.
As if you had any… LOL at you troll. Your
logic is laughable. What’s the matter you lost and lonely today.
My logic? I challenge you to a legitimate debate. Loser can never post here again. You are talking out of your ass, spewing lies and soundbites that are out of context and don’t have the balls or brains to beat me in a debate on the issue.
A troll, no someone that hates seeing such stupidity in such a large quantity.
No. A troll is distinguishable in that he or she is here for the no other purpose than to obsfuscate.
And.
Considering that we have never seen you here before and BOBO lost to Senator Clinton in Pennsylvania last night, I believe that is obviously your goal.
Facts are not your friends. Nor BOBO’s
Facts are 100% my friend. I despise the rhetoric, half truths and outright lies. You’ve never seen me before because I followed a link somewhere and felt the need to respond to the complete nonsense that was posted in the first post and the comments that followed.
Everyone knows Obama lost PA. Nobody expected him to win. But what everyone here fails to realize is that he is further ahead today than he was yesterday. Hillary would have to win a much larger percentage of the remaining delegates than the percentage that was required a short 24 hours ago.
As I said, Obama solidified his lead. Cheering about winning one state, 10 million dollars or inaccurate stats that say Clinton has a popular vote lead will not change that.
And you say I am trying to obfuscate. This entire thread was Clinton propaganda and it will be rehashed by morons once Obama is the nominee. The incorrect talking points on display here will become “facts” in the minds of pissed off supporters.
Me obfuscate. Unbelievable.
Yo NQ! Cleanup needed here in Aisle 6!
Well, Uppity, he is cleaning up, a sort of mop, a tool for others.
He’s too stupid to understand, though.
If you wish a legitimate debate you may want to tone down your rhetoric. Telling people “You are talking out of your ass” illegitimizes any points you are trying to make which is the opposite of your intended goal.
And bravado like “don’t have the balls or brains to beat me in a debate” makes you look like a novice.
Some may also consider it rude for someone to come in here in full attack mode when people are having a well deserved day of celebration.
Another empire lie. he ran tv cable in florida and broke the “rules”.
Barack Hussein Obama broke the rules and still couldn’t win in Florida.
Hey Crash’n'Burn, I sure hope you have a parachute.
She won by 10 points, not 8.
Obama is the one who had ads run and held a fund-raising ‘dinner’ in Florida, and still got his arse handed to him.
Obama has the “better” operation that pulled out of Michigan, because THEY wanted to bend over to the party elite in Iowa, but then spent a lot of money getting people to vote for uncommitted.
Obama is the one who’s flipping off, clearing off his shoulder at and basically saying I’m in the lead so GFY to the people of FL/MI, because he knows both cheeks would be blistered from the spanking he’d get if he let them revote.
Obama is the one lying about his financial support; no lobbyists’ money….but gee lobbyists who bundle. Go figure. Change, indeed. Lots of change….in$100,000 bundles from energy and pharm. corporations. Forget the W Rangers, maybe we could have the Obama Espressos.
Too late? You mean it’s August 29th? It’s over? Wow.
So, Implode Peelots, I think the thin air up there is effecting your noodle.
It’s actually moved to 9.2 now that more results are in, UP from 8.6. The media was rounding Obama down and Hillary up and calling it 10 points. That is done to make it go over the psychological boundary that is double digits and make the ignorant people that can’t do math think Hillary has any sort of a chance.
Is this easy enough to figure out. Hillary is in worse shape than she was before PA voted. Please explain how that is a “win”?
Well that settles it. Barry won PA.
Show me one caucus or primary that Obama won that is recorded in fractions. Go ahead. I’ll wait….
They were saying 10 when it was 8.6 as well. Even if they rounded it would have been 9, not 10. The media is screwing with you and you are taking the bait.
Empire, did you know Barack is sneaking smokes? Great example for a future president?
Even his pal Maureen Dowd of NYTimes caught him out and wrote about it.
He’s a sneak.
Judging by the way Obama is going over with Americans, and given his expenditure of nearly 9 million to Hillary’s 3.2 million in PA, at this point, I don’t think his middle easter largesse matters worth a shit anymore.
TSK TSK- Uppity- I need the Ivory Soap here-somebody needs their mouth washed out for telling lies.
Write three hundred times
“I will not tell lies.”
Hillary DID NOT campaing in FL, Obama DID campaign in Florida. Obama ran TV ads in FL, Obama talked to reporters after a fundraiser in FL (talking to the press is considered campaigning.)
Which chain email did you get this information from? lol
Melissa,
Thank you.
Can anyone link me some evidence that Obama ran ads in Florida before their primary date? I had not heard this before and am genuinely curious to read about it.
Okay, he called us idiots…Larry, could you please remove the clog from the toilet? Er, I mean, the troll from the blog?
Empire, You sure are on autopilot. Talk about kool aid. Hmm.
Your whiny post is that of a sore loser. And Hillary was thought at most to be 20 points ahead in Pa. Obama spent 11 million, bussed all over the State for 5 weeks, ran commercials 24/7. And the new voters voted for Hillary.
Obama’s commercials attacking Hillary’s healthcare were a huge lie that the ele torate saw through. His story that HillaryPlan would “garnishee wages” was scare and fear. We all know that those who could not afford the premiums or full premiums would receive help.
His Harry and Louise TV spots were right out of the GOP playbook.
Obama has been the Media’s darling. He has all kinds of money and yes, a fine organization, better than Hillary’s, etc.
So why can’t he close? Why can’t he connect with the majority? His wins are mainly in smaller red states that the GOP win.
Change? Change WHAT? This lightweight will change DC? What will he do to get legislation passed? Call MoveOn?
I have no animus for Obama. I just think he is over rated with a great deal of
baggage, and appears very spoiled to me.
Talking about old ladies will not endear him to the populace, and demanding non confrontational issues doesn’t work anymore than ducking debates does.
Drink on. Skoal.
YEAH!!!! I am so glad she asked in her speech last night, I knew many would donate if she just let us know she needed us. I never donated to any campaign until I heard she had to lend herself that 5 mill, and everytimge the MSM says she’s broke she can’t compete I have to give tio spite THEM. I wonder if they have any idea what great fundraiser they are for Hillary with their hate?
on other fun stuff did you see MORE problems for Obam with the firends he picks? drip drip drip http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-kass-23-apr23,0,3364134.column
yes, saw that. then saw the obamabots commenting on how unfair it is to hold obama responsible for the bad acts of his bad friends, who he probably doesn’t even know… (paraphrasing).
So this means that you are outraged that Hillary’s pastor (Dean J. Snyder) from Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington, DC, supports Rev Wright? Obviously she must now denounce Snyder or else that means she too supports Wright.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/hillarys-minister-supports-rev.php
David Axelrod sticks foot in mouth on NPR:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/23/13181/8905
$10 Million! Wow. I gave this morning again, but I never dreamed that in less than 24 hours, she’d take in $10 Mil.
An amazing message from voters and donors, don’t you think?! Now, I wonder–what on earth could they be saying?!
;o}
BMC It just keeps getting better….This typical cracker approves your comment.
Oh how do I love thee Axelrod! You stupid SOB. Thanks!
This guy is gonna implode and this will be one happy cracker…
Axelrod
George McGovern agrees with you.
It’s not Obama’s fault for being a sub par candidate, forget about the workings of democracy, it’s the fault of the sheep, right?
Axelrod is a shithead, just proved it right there.
And you see how specious and knee jerk that analysis was, how WRONG, a function of his weak narcissism, blaming others for his screw ups?
He represents the people in Washington making decisions, they listen to guys like him.
MORON.
Axelrod pretty much reinforces the whole “bitter-gate” lede, no?
However, he’s mistaken about one thing. Working-class whites (ummm, I guess that’s folks kinda like me) have voted for Democrats for president. In my lifetime, they did it in 1960, 1964, 1976, 1992, and 1996 (notice the last two… especially 1996).
Notice a trend, David?
When working-class whites vote for a Democrat, we win. When we look down our Liberal-Arts noses at them, we lose.
He stated an absolute fact. You managed to spin it into something else entirely. Congratulations, you are now qualified to work for Fox news or the Clinton campaign.
Empire Autopilot said:
But I’m sure her fiscally irresponsible self will continue to throw good money at bad campaigning.
Do you mean like Obama dumping the most money ever spent on a primary in the State of PA and STILL losing by 10 points? That kind of “good money at bad campaigning?”
Ha!
You do realize Obama is not only a lock for the nomination but he also made Clinton go into severe debt to keep up with his spending? It was all part of the plan and closing the huge gap he was facing is a win. He can phone it in until the convention and he still wins.
Who needs money when Obama is out there making an ass of himself daily. And don’t worry about Clinton running out of money. It will always be replenished. Just like it is being replenished right now. Of course, given Barry’s vapid stupidity, she only needs $1 to his $3.
She could raise a billion and it wouldn’t change anything. She has already lost.
By your argument so has he.
ask romney how well buying an election works.
Do you understand trolling the troll by feeding his expectations of result?
Shithead.
Hey, ever think about starting a war in Iraq, you’d be a natural to run it.
And the more the troll, the worse the outcome when they finally let you in on the secret you’re a fucking moron.
Axelrove goes on NPR this morning and says Obama doesn’t need working class voters they haven’t been voting democratic. First off your not going to get their vote unless you ask them for it and by that understand what the concerns of the working class are. Not some pie in the sky rhetoric about change and yes we can that won’t get it done. Health care reform, mortgage reform, economic reform thats what will get it done. Second maybe the democrats poor showing the last 10 years is because we haven’t talked to working class voters, have the democrats talk to working class voters since LBJ. The more I hear from this crew the more disgusted I am with the state of the Democratic Party.
Well George McGovern thought so too.
Not what he said at all. Are you trying to get hired by Clinton or something?
Why don’t you post the quote.
Do you understand feeding the troll by feeding his expectations of result?
WARNING!:)
This is a troll alert!
Imminent troll invasion!
We have sighted them on our radar after they were spotted hovering over the pitiful spin and misdirection attempts by Andrea MitchShill [sic] and other MSM pro-Obama puke regurgitators.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled truth broadcast here on NQ:
Hillary WON the primary BIG TIME and has conclusively proven she is the only electable Democrat against McCain. The delegates will exercise their best judgment, take the heat of a few whining trolls and nominate Hillary who will then go on to beat McCain.
We have to bear with them. They had a bad night and are cutting classes today.
Hey Uppity,
LOL
A bad night? Obama is in a better position today than he was yesterday. Hillary would have to win even a higher percentage of the remaining delegates than was required before PA. Everyone expected Obama to lose PA. I’m having a great day actually.
Sure he is. Now repeat after me…Obama is gooooooood. Obama is goooooooood. Obama is gooooooooood. You are getting sleepyyyyy…
He is. Do I really have to prove to you?
Nope. You don’t have enough clout and authority to matter to me.
Hyper educated uppity woman? How ironically hilarious.
no ,,u don,t have to
gop is telling the whole nc about it
We’re trolling you, feeding you.
But you’re too dumb to get it, so round and round we go, and your, um, crew, loses even more.
Simple, for smart people.
But then you’re on the wrong side, always the loser from your trolls, to your candidates.
Uppity..
That reminds me of a Joke I just got..
A Hypnotist went to a retirement Home to do his Show for the Old Folks…
The Nursing home staff brought 300 Ol folks into the Auditorium…The magician Holds up a very Expensive Old Gold pocket watch and explains it is a precious family heirlook from His great grandfather..he tells rthe Seniors to keep an Eye on the Watch asHe swings in back and forth..Telling them they are getting very..Very sleepy ..Just as He Puts them all under..he drops His watch and Excalims..”SHIT”…
It took Three Days to clean up the Auditorium..!!
how am i to keep from falling off my chair if you keep this up?
Did that come from a chain letter right after the ‘Obama is a muslim’ and ‘Forward this 10000 times and Microsoft will pay you a million dollars’ ones?
No sorry,
Everyone that calls you out on your sheer stupidity is not a troll. What’s it like living in that rainbows and skittles world where everything is exactly as you say and logic is irrelevant?
Probably where you live
YAWN YAWN YAWN….
Empire..
You remind Me of another Joke I just Got..
Called..”Mind Your Own Business”
This Blogger named Empire Autopilot was walking down a Street in a Town he was visiting…Passing a high wall..He hears People Yelling “13….13….13…13…”
He comes t5o a Hole in the Wall and Peeks in…and Someone waiting on the inside Pokes him in the eye with a Stick…Empire jerks away, sure to be getting a Hugh Black Eye…As He walks away..he hears the voice Behind the Wall Yelling…”14…14….14…14″
patrick, i’m about to break one of my old lady hips from reading your posts and falling on the floor laughing. then i would have to crawl to the polls to vote against obambi. have a heart!
Uppity- is there a number we can call to get this person’s parents??? They need to be de-culted.
And to go back to school- they do not understnad arithmetic or history at all, at all.
Melissa,
I ask this with all sincerity.
What makes you so ignorant of the facts? Also, being ignorant of the facts what makes you so unwilling to learn when provided a chance? It appears you are happy to keep on going blissfully ignorant of the world around you.
I clicked your link. “Pa turned the tide!”
Wow, that’s like the 7th state to “turn the tide” according to Clinton.
You also ended the post with “Yes, we bitter, gun toting, church going folks” and are one of several people here rehashing the same tired line, out of context.
Do you not understand what Obama was saying with this “controversial” comment or do you just not care?
As for me being bad at math, please listen close. Everything I say can be verified by you or anyone else with a 4th grade education.
The percentage of delegates Hillary would have to win in the remaining contests is now LARGER than it was before PA voted. She is in WORSE shape today than yesterday.
Now I see you are an active democrat and I want to like you. However, you make it extremely hard when you would rather spout lies and re-arrange quotes to fit your agenda.
Why do you hate America?
Let’s go with facts ok.
FACT ONE! I am a proud American mother of a military member and sister of a vet.
TWO- I am extremely patriotic. I love my country, unlike your candidate’s pastor who espouses G*** D*** America.
Three- your candidate has associations with an admitted terrorist (Fact-Ayers kicked off his Illinois campaign)
Four- Your candidate can not win the base of the party- working class folks.
Five- Neither candidate has enough or can win enough pledged delegates. Supers will decide this. ELECTABILITY is key.
With Obama’s known relationships to Ayers, Resko, Wright, Odinga and more, he is not acceptable to a vast number of people. That is a fact. That makes him unelectable.
I love America and I will NEVER vote for Obama.
Honestly, how is Clinton any better?
FACT ONE - Rev Wright was a Marine.
TWO - Would you not be a little upset over a country who had enslaved your people, tortured your people, made your people a second class citizen not more than a single generations ago? The quote is actually “God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human.”. That kinda makes a difference.
THREE - she’s quoted as saying to hell with the peolpe who don’t support her and her husband. “”Screw ‘em,” she told her husband. “You don’t owe them a thing, Bill. They’re doing nothing for you; you don’t have to do anything for them.” (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/hillary-clinton-on-workin_n_97017.html)
FOUR - she has a history of lies and unethical behavior to do anything to get ahead politically (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/clintons_exaggerated_experienc.html)
FIVE - she has her fair share of ’scandals’ over the years. Best known obviously is whitewater.
“Would you not be a little upset over a country who had enslaved your people, tortured your people, made your people a second class citizen not more than a single generations ago?”
The problem with that is this: Obama doesn’t have any direct ancestors who were slaves on this continent. Why’s he so angry? Why’s he aligning and empathizing so closely with an AA who does?
‘Typical” white people want to know these things.
I, an AA, really could care less about Wright and what he said. I hear stuff like this all of the time. And yes, slavery is a bitter pill that we AAs choke on every day. Why suddenly is it so important to you? There are so many ways you could advocate for the AA community that don’t include supporting Barack Obama. What have you done in the past? There’s so much to do and frankly, government support isn’t the only answer. We need foot soldiers/volunteers on the ground helping the grass roots and generationally poor and uneducated. Besides, spinning Obama’s talking points, what is your commitment to the AA community, btw?
For the record, I don’t support Obama because he is not qualified, nor experienced to be president, his commitment to the black community remains a mystery, and I certainly find his ties to a slumlord like Rezko questionable. In Obama’s own district, Rezko left poor blacks without heat, hot water in Chicago winters no less. Obama is not a man who has my best interests at heart. Frankly, he’s not someone who has anyone’s interests at heart.
This pretty much sums up what the comments here are about.
“This pretty much sums up what the comments here are about.”
It’s hard to tell that, however, when so many of the comments here are so incredibly poorly written and riddled with as much polarizing rhetoric as they are. Thanks for writing in a much more reasonable and effective manner than many of the commenters who post here. It makes your viewpoints much more palatable and understandable to those of us who do not come here agreeing with the pre-established community.
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Someone mentioned this may be illegal, so until this is clarified, you might be hurting Clinton, setting her up for a GOTCHA!.
So clever, gosh, ew.
Yawn.
Really, in their little troll heads, they’re brilliant.
So DUMB, reminds of something Cheney’s idiots would do…
Word has it, Dick thinks Hillary would investigate and prosecute.
Bama and McCain, he can control.
Wowser!!!
10million!! I love it! I think I may sweeten the pot one more time again myself. Two donations in one day to help smite the foolish fool Obama.
Ok, this is the first time I’ve been here, but wow…
I see a lot of attacks of persons, little talk of policies.
Anyone who talks about Reverend Wright must forget that he’s gone to the White House per request by the Clintons. Uh oh.
Anyone who talks about an “astounding victory” in PA apparently doesn’t remember HRC being up by double digits, finishing 9% up. PA was supposed to be a shoe in for Clinton.
If you look at the assigned delegates, guess what? Obama got one more somehow. Hmmm…
Just tossing some facts out there for ya.
Maybe you’d like to toss them to people who give a shit about what you have to say?
Just askin’ not sayin’
and this is why a lot of people talk about supporters as being fanatics. Even when faced with some facts, they say “we don’t care, GO .”
You talk about Obama supporters drinking kool-aid. That’s for people who mindlessly follow, and don’t care about little things called “facts.”
This entire thread is full of complete b/s on the Hillary side. Your idea of ‘facts’ is laughable at best, pathetic at worst.
You are confusing your religious beliefs with facts. NQ is a Reality Based forum.
Ka-ching!
The only b/s on this thread has been supplied by Empire Autopilot.
Fact is, Clinton has won all the Blue and swing state, Obama has won all the red states!
Fact is Clinton has won the Democratic Party grassroots, Obama rents Republicans for a day!
Facts are facts adn Obama spent well over $11 million to lose, talk about sound fiscal policies! But when your finance commitee Chair has a failure rate in the Billions, what is a few million in a losing cause right?
“Facts are facts adn[sic] Obama spent well over $11 million to lose, talk about sound fiscal policies! But when your finance commitee[sic] Chair has a failure rate in the Billions, what is a few million in a losing cause right?”
Obama spent over $11 million. Great. With Hillary’s $10M raised overnight, she is at the $0 mark. Her campaign, as reported widely, started April around $10M in debt. Sound fiscal policies argument pro-Hillary ended.
A few million in a losing cause? As was stated previously, Obama was reported to have a 20 point deficit after “bitter-gate”. Hillary took it, for our purposes, by 10. That is huge ground to make up, and well worth the money, especially since Obama has it.
Up to this point (meaning prior to last night), it has been reported that Hillary has spent $1.10 for each dollar she has raised, while Obama spent $0.70. It isn’t rocket science to see who runs a more responsible campaign.
You say Obama won red states as if it is bad he is pulling record support from typical Republican strongholds.
You also act as if Obama won’t win the blue states when he is the nominee.
Sad.
If you wish a legitimate debate you may want to tone down your rhetoric. Telling people “You are talking out of your ass” illegitimizes any points you are trying to make which is the opposite of your intended goal.
And bravado like “don’t have the balls or brains to beat me in a debate” makes you look like a novice.
Some may also consider it rude for someone to come in here in full attack mode when people are having a well deserved day of celebration.
Did I say anything about your celebration? I get it, you like Hillary. You know what, I do too, just not as much as I like Obama.
That however, is irrelevant. My first post here was refuting outright lies which were littered throughout this entire thread and the original post.
The people spreading these lies should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. I talk like I’m pissed off because I am absolutely pissed off. How can there be 15, 20 people right here on this page that are acting like the scum that is the GOP.
Oh Hillary is behind so Obama supports terrorists.
Oh someone called us out on our misinformation, let’s call them a troll and disregard anything they say.
Sometimes the truth hurts. Hillary won PA but she has next to no chance to be the nominee. Even if she were to subvert the will of the voters the backlash would be devastating for her and the entire party.
But because the entire group of “original” members here support Hillary they turn a blind eye to all of the lies that are being spread. Never mind the damage to the party. Never mind that winning dirty is not winning at all. How can not one of you have enough morals to say “Wait a minute, yes we won but we don’t have to lie to support our candidate.”
Do you not understand how heartbreaking it is to a life long Democrat to see this? After 8 years of Bush we now get to deal with the vile hatred from within our own party?
It’s unbelievable. It’s wrong. It’s sick.
WAH WAH WAH !!!!!
Now, take you petulent little ill informed sarcastic and finger pointing face out of here.
Michelle is calling you, Barry.
Don’t be late. She’s the really ballsy one in the family!
He avoided the crux of my observations. Not a very skilled debater at all.
Be careful what you wish for Obama is hardly the progressive candidate he claims to be. He has a group of neocon economic advisors advising him and the godfather of neocon foreign policy advising him. They are the facts they cannot be denied if you did some research on his advisors you would be surprised.
Now if your supporting Obama for his conservatism I can’t argue with you.
OMG now we got a new idiot in here.
Nom de plume: Empire Autopilot
Estimated physical/emotional age: 12-14 years
Reason for entering No Quarter: the Kool-Aid’s gone flat and somebody spit on the waffle
With any luck the parental controls on his computer will be activated again tonight.
Maybe she doesn’t respond to you because you don’t matter. You don’t, you know.
Obama is losing Massachusetts against McCain for Pete’s sake.
if you really believe winning dem caucuses in solid red states means anything at all in a general election, your high school or college is doing a very poor job at educating you. i’d ask for a refund.
Interesting, I guess we each have our own interpretation of reality.
But given how you troll, and your obtuse, aggressive limited vocabulary, and your obvious lack of critical thinking, I’ll take mine.
You’re very weak.
This is the same method by which the republicans trolled, when Bush and Cheney were trying to destroy the Constitution.
“You say we drink the kool-aide” but you haven’t addressed Obama’s corruption, his ties with terrorists, except to dismiss them, when they havent’ been fully vetted.
And then, I guess we draw different conclusions about the effect of men like Auchi on the British government, it’s ability to function while corrupt, and Auchi’s effect on Isarel while arms dealing to Hamas, say.
And the greater asymmetric war, well, that’s out of your league, you aren’t smart enough to understand the parallels, or the players.
Period.
You think it’s OK, I see the American systems breaking apart, to the detriment of everyone.
Cheney and Bush missed it too.
They missed it, because of guys who think like you, ie very speciously, very infantile and narcissistic.
And for any number of reasons, since you support Obama, I would say your thinking is indicative of guys like Khalidi, too.
So, you are doing a public service, thanks.
What kind of broken argument is this? Do you even realize that Obama is supported by intelligent, well educated people and Hillary draws most of her support from uneducated middle America?
You say Obama supporters are too dumb to see, Obama supporters are smarter as a whole period. It’s a fact, not refutable, just fact.
It’s impossible to argue with someone like you, you just twist reality to fit you agenda and that’s that.
Whatever
Somebody call the gene pool cleaner.
Amen to that beebop !!
You’re really upset aren’t you?
That settles it! Barry won PA!
Yes he’s beside his waffle with grief.
Get ahold of yourself darklameth!! lol Good gawd! He LOST! Period!! He’s the one who spent all of that damn cash and still lost. Ross Perot? Anybody? lol Except for Perot had his own cash. Gosh you guys can’t take losing. When Hillary lost in past races, her supporters talk strategy. You idiots talk about how Obama didn’t lose “so badly”. He got his ass kicked last night! Point Blank!
Actually, I’m very calm right now.
Yes, I support Obama, but not to some fanatical level.
You speak of his loss. Yes, he did lose. He lost the popular vote by roughly 9%. That’s in one state. The reason he won the delegate count is for the same reason that Hillary tries to say “some states don’t count.” He did better in the regions with more national elected officials, hence more delegates.
He’s still 150 pledged delegates ahead in the counts. Hillary effectively picked up -1 delegates in this race (0 if you count the superdelegate she picked up).
I would congratulate her on her windfall of money, definitely. That brings her out of the red. I enjoy having discussions, but only if the discussions are more than ad hominem attacks, are based on facts, and are not items taken out of context. There’s the concept of winning the battle, but not doing well enough to win the war. Most strategist said she needed to get a decisive and overwhelming victory in PA for it to count. She didn’t. People who say she did are almost akin to those who said W. got a “public mandate” by winning 51% of the popular vote during the presidential election.
Please, if you want to pat yourselves on the back, go ahead. If you want to slam me, go ahead. Just remember, the 9% win she got here in PA was a month ago projected at a 20%+, meaning throughout all of the debates she lost ground. Even with all of the out of context quotes tossed around, Obama still managed to greatly reduce the margin.
Here’s the thing though “darklameth” you are rolling up in here–through Larry and Susan’s spot–throwing your wet blanket all over everybody and nobody wants it on them! Why don’t you head on over to IHeartObama.org and try to figure out how you guys can pick up the pieces of that sham of a campaign he’s running. We’re doing just fine without your “expert opinion”.
You are right, a month ago is was almost 20% for Clinton, and Obama spent over $11 million to gain 10 points, so he spent over $1.1 million per point, kind of makes you wonder where his fiscal responsabilities are, let alone his “Good Judgement on Day 1″ are doesn’t it?
Makes logical sense to anyone that in a time of economic downswing, spending record amounts in a losing cause is sure someone showing an ability to manage an economy doesn’t it?
You know, just saying from a reasonable standpoint of logic!
A losing cause? Obama is in fact the nominee of the Democratic Party.
Sheesh people, are you even real Democrats?
Sheesh have you reached puberty yet. Do you know what a Democrat is beyond an adolesences fawning over a political candidate. Why don’t you gives us your interpretation. Or to you have to look up your talking points.
Obama supports terrorists, associated with, at the very least, terrorist supporters.
Terrorists hurt America
This is all you need to know.
Tell me, think the NSA is OK with this, the CIA, the military?
If you are so superior to all of us po white bitter down trodden lower case democrats, what the hell are you here for?
Real facts are so inconvenient and old-fashioned, as opposed to new, improved, orange-flavored Obamafax™!
$1.1 million per point? What a deal!
I’m sure the struggling Pennsylvanians really appreciated that gesture of elitism. But Obambi is down the with gesture, y’all see what I’m sayin’?
What about the fact that she spends $1.10 for every dollar she takes in and he spends less than $0.75?
Who’s fiscally responsible?
That is not just one state. That is 8 out of nine swing states that Democrats need to win ANY presidential election. The problem comes with the misconception that everybody will just fall in line and walk like a duck if he becomes the nominee. It won’t happen. Too many women despise him, not only for the sexist pig he is, but even moreso because of the filth typed on message boards to them. The blue collar “reagan” people will NEVER vote for him. They will go McCain. The gays despise him for the homophobic he is. The Italians are major pissed. I can attest to this. I am Italian and I live in a city with a large Italian population. I don’t know one Italian who will ever vote for him thanks to Wright’s Garlic Nose crack. Then there are the Catholics, these are key voters for ANYONE. They don’t tend to vote for people who attend whackjob churches. There are ONLY 70 million of them. Toss in the Jews and their jitters about his obvious relations with Pakistan, not to mention the Hamas endorsement. And then add the Typical White woman remark about his grandmother, which clearly would piss off seniors who already didn’t like him. That leaves kids, radicals and African Americans. This guy is doomed to outdo McGovern and I don’t mean that lightly.
Here’s another one. Shouldn’t we have a minimum age in here like on other forums?
ooh, a new troll. and we were having such fun with the old ones.
Maybe we can get them all to entertain us with some mud wrestling in cheap black Barry suits.
Troll invasion alert: seems he BOmanics are lost and lonely today.
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If you’re feelin’ lost and lonely
There’s a service we can render
Double digits really hurt you
But we got something warm and tender
CHORUS
Waffles!
How ’bout a banger and waffles?
Drown all your sorrows with waffles!
And Kool-Aid™ to wash it all down!
Every time a troll posts on NQ, Hillary gets another donation. Ain’t life sweet!
How many more troll posts before she’s in the black?
How many before she has as much cash as Obama?
How many more posts do you have to make to get paid?
Lease payment due on the Honda Fit?
Ka-ching!
WHO THE FUCK CARES YOU LITTLE SHIT?
Obama should drop out. He’s a loser and the more exposure he gets, the more that will be known.
Obama is dividing the party only to pull a full McGovern. His supporters should urge him to bow out gracefully, ASAP.
Yes the guy winning should drop out to let you ladies get a female in office. That’s definitely a logica statement.
You are brutal.
Are you gay, too?
No, he’s too confused.
Seventeen years old. Virgin. Acne. Blogging from the middle east.
No he just can’t resolve his relationship with his mother.
Why not? We’ve been cleaning up your messes in Corporate America for decades.
Actually it’s ‘logicaL’. You dropped the ‘L’ at the end because you’re an idiot. You can’t spell.
No: Obama should drop out because the world might be ready for a black president but they’re not ready for someone with Obama’s unusual sexual preferences.
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Seriously you people make me sick. Reading this crap in the comments has made me afraid of the democrats chances no matter who gets nominated. I mean getting close to half of the supporters on both sides are polled as saying they will VOTE FOR MCCAIN OR STAY HOME if their candidate does not get nominated. The only winner here is McCain.
You people have taken the two best candidates possible for this election, where we had a solid ticket no matter who was president or vice president, and turned it into this hate fest. This is an election coming on the heels of one of the most unpopular presidents and when the Republican party seems divided. I don’t even mind this going to the end as long as we stop dragging both candidates through the mud and hurting our chances.
But you people don’t seem to realize this, if fact I wonder how long it takes for someone to accuse me of being a shill for Obama or Clinton. It’s your election to lose people! At the start we were almost guaranteed a victory, where will we be when we actually get to vote?
“At the start we were almost guaranteed a victory…”
Yeah, before Obama threw his dunce cap into the ring!!!
Thank you for proving his point.
“you people”, that’s always a crowd-pleaser and guaranteed to make people listen to what you’re saying.
Dude… mosey on over to DKos, DU, etc. and just see who is hurling the filthy insults at which candidate, and who has banned supporters of that candidate from participating in progressive blogging sites, and see who has been telling which supporters that our votes are “not needed” anymore anyway — so we might as well piss off.
There is no way you do not know about the death threats, the tire slashing, the general threats, and such against people who do not support Obama. There is no way you could find No Quarter without having visited the pro-Obama blogs, or seen the vile comments posted about Hillary all over the internet, by his supporters.
YOu’re being deliberately obstuse.
I’ve got a feeling he included the DKos people in “you people”. I would at least. Both sides are behaving childish and it could cost the election come November for whomever the Dem candidate is.
Hard to imagine that the Rep’s actually have a fair shot to win the whole thing after everything we’ve been through over the last 8 years.
You really fail to see the bigger picture.
Every tim you try to troll using Clinton supporter arguments against them, you impress me as being more stupid than I thought.
BTW, given equal parameters of thought process, this is how Cheney lost the Middle East, as it’s the republican method of troll, also, and if you really support Obama, he’ll lose, too.
But you’re too stupid to figure it out.
So it seems everyone here is in that 50% I was talking about. I am officially scared about our chances in the general election.
I also find it hard to believe there are so many people that refuse to acknowledge the merits of the other side. We are all democrats and I believe it is being reported that the candidates share about 95% of their platform. So why is there this kind of response?
I really can’t understand it. However, it’s a matter of maturity and I’m asking everyone here politely that no matter who wins to vote democrat. I don’t think this country could take another republican, financially or based on the damage to our global standing.
I agree. I hear a lot of people whose main regard for their support of Hillary or Obama is their pledge to reduce troop levels in the middle east but say they will vote McCain if their favorite doesn’t get the Dem nomination. I just can’t understand that.
Where were you when people were getting fileted at HOPO and DKOS?
All of this righteous anger is precious, but only for the Precious one, I guess.
You understand that none of us here are moved by your argument. So sorry. You are about four months too late for most of us.
If you feel nauseated - go to DAILY KOS. They have some Κοολ-Αιδ™ that should make you feel better.
I can’t read all the comments cause it looks like it’s troll invasion day. But just wanted to say: Great for our girl, and every dollar we send counts.
PS: calls for unity pony by some here come a little too late. And I wonder, when sometimes I’m bored and I go to Huff to read the latest BS, why the same calls are not made there. Last night Hillary was being called from monster to whore and every name in the book.
Someone calls Hillary a name on Huffpo so you get to hate on Barack equally. Another logical argument from the fairer sex!
Have some respect for yourself.
If you pay attention, and if you were smart, deke, you’d understand HOW Cheney and the republicans lost Iraq.
And if this is all you have, you wont win.
You really don’t get it, and you think of yourself as intelligent.
Wow.
I wonder if the terrorsits are as stupid as you are…
See?
I’m not trolling to your expectation, and still, you dont get it.
Ah, this troll thing, a little more complicated than you thought.
ooh, the troll calls women illogical - another smart way to try to get our votes for obambi.
with this kind of troll, obambi will end up in a permanent fetal position any day now.
Autopilot, I have a lot of respect for myself, but I don’t have to explain that to you. All I said before, if unity calls were made on both sides, we can have a discussion, but when they are only made to Hillary supporters (I know I will get her votes, but she won’t get mine) then there is no point in talking, is there?! So,instead of trolling here, you can go and make a unity call to this thing (not a human being I suppose) at Huff’s, and see what kind of response you get. On the other side, you can troll here, and I donate to Hillary’s everytime I entertain myself with you :).
I wish both sides could actually just take a step back, take a deep breath, and relax for a minute. I agree with you that there needs to be a stop to all the name-calling and frivilous accusations. I respect Hillary supporters for their opinions and hopefully they respect me in mine. I’ve gotta tell ya, given I don’t have a lot of experience in the primary races, the direction this race has turned on both sides has just become discouraging.
Well, enough fun for me today- off to work!
Have fun with the trolls- keep them engaged here and they spend less time wasting their parent’s hard earned money on a terrorist loving, Dem base loser like Obama.
A WIN IS A WIN! No over/under or beating the spread here- this ain’t Vegas and we are not playing fantasy football.
Awww,
You make me proud to be a Democrat. Such intelligence and class on display from the Hillary clan lately. And you guys say you aren’t bitter ahaha.
same old stuff, again, not trolling to expectation, and you still don’t get it.
And roping in civilians wont’ do it.
So, tell me, if I instruct half my group to pretend you’re effective, will you call the troll a success, even though I’m using their behavior to control your actions, as I know how necessary it is for you to not fight a powerful adversary, for you to belieev you have some measure of success, even though you have none?
Trolling to expectation of result is how Cheney was beat, and the republicans, too. They can be tweaked at will, because of trolls as stupid as you, unable to understand the greater abstract.
Can you follow this, or is it too complex?
You dont have a clue what I mean, do you?
Awww,
You make me proud to be a Democrat. Such intelligence and class on display from the Hillary clan lately. And you guys say you aren’t bitter ahaha.
And a win is a win. Obama has twice as many and the most important one of all.
You should respond to this.
Avoiding my comments will show a further weakness in your self proclaimed grandiosity.
Obama’s playing to win the division and Hillary is playing to win the Super Bowl.
Do you think this real?
I do believe someone peed in the Unity Wheaties this morning…. it’s rather crowded in here today. /snark snark.
Unity should respond to this.
I mean autopilot should respond
How ’bout that?
Not as much hope and change to go around at the usual places so they are out plying their negative vibes to see if they can just make everyone as miserable as they are.
If Nutter was running for President Hillary WOULD have a substantive challenger. Obama, not so much.
Last night, watching them onstage just made long, once again, for Vice President Nutter?
received the following “Poll” from sodahead today.
http://www.sodahead.com/poll/77869/
There’s two things about it that concern me:
1) It came to my email inbox identified as coming from Barbara Boxer
2) It actually came from the Sodahead founder
Even though the poll came as a direct question, I think the way it was phrased is EXTREMELY BIASED. I’m also upset that Sodahead is using Barbara Boxer’s name to get responses to such a poll. I believe Sen. Boxer has remained neutral in this campaign thus far.
I am asking here that all Hillary supporters do two things: 1) Complain to Sodahead that they should not use Barbara Boxer’s name (or anyone elses) for their own phishing expeditions and 2) Contact Barbara Boxer’s office and complain about this poll, and make sure they know her name was used and the context in which the question was asked. If Boxer did indeed endorse this question, I would be personally outraged.
I’m divided on whether to actually respond to the poll and show our strength. There are so many such BS internet polls, it probably matters little…except for unfortuantely the Sodahead founder’s posts probably get more page hits.
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You girls can keep twisting your husbands nuts but when he goes in the voting booth he’ll be secretly pulling the lever for Obama.
This entire page is a poster for why they should repeal a womans right to vote.
You are all a bunch of overweight, old uneducated idiots.
I’m ashamed to be the same gender as you.
in the words of The Terminator:
Fuck you asshole!
The Terminator comment is meant for John.
This is for Amy:
“This entire page is a poster for why they should repeal a womans right to vote.”
That, my dear girl, would include you… self-hating bitch!
Maybe if you ‘behave’ Obama will let you lick the bottom of his shoe.
As a general observation. Once removing the name calling and irrelevant comments, here is what I see.
*not much*
Opinion #1: Hillary is the best option.
Opinion #2: Obama is the best option.
Can people argue reasonably? This whole thread is abusive and rather elementary.
Here is my question, and I want everyone to seriously ponder this before firing back at me. If Hillary/Obama loses, are you really going to turn this country over to Neocons?
I think all of this, I am not voting for Hillary/Obama in the general election if so and so loses is a lot of talk with little meaning.
At a time when the party needs to come together for victory, here we are slapping each other in the face.
And as a last note, both sides should seriously check their facts before subjecting anyone else to them.
Can’t recall the article but I was reading earlier today about that fact. It stated that people historically say they will not support their candidates party rival during the primary but when it comes time for the general, they realize what is important. I hope both sides take this to heart.
Please be assured that come November, if Obama is the nominee, I won’t!
Nothing is more important to me than parting paths with the Democratic Party who consistently behaves like first-class idiots.
Too bad Obama’s supporters don’t realize that everything isn’t about them and their lider. I have way more reasons than just his skimpy ass not to vote Democratic if Hillary is not the nominee.
1968, 1972
1980 Kennedy challenging Carter and helping to usher in the Reagan Years.
1988, 2000, 2004 and now 2008.
Not impeaching Bush/Cheney
Brush up on your history if you intend to keep up with us here.
I’ll speak for NY.
NY had a 2-term Republican governor that just ended in 2006. There are a lot of upstate Republicans and Democrats willing to vote Republican. Hillary wooed these people and they love her now. They won’t take kindly to Obama.
He also won’t win all of NYC. Staten Island is a very STUBBORN Republican stronghold. You are also assuming that NYC’s heavily latino population is going to vote for Obama. Don’t bet the farm on that one. (And this applies to CA, btw. Say, wasn’t Reagan from CA? And don’t they have a Republican governor now?)
Then there’s the Jewish vote. And that’s getting more and more complicated by the day.
You are counting very heavily on the AA community and their numbers cannot bring it home for Obama. The same way those numbers in SC won’t make that red state blue. Even Clinton didn’t win SC.
You guys really need to take notes and do some research. I see Obama’s arrogance is contagious. He simply can’t see straight. There are so many variables in this election with regard to his candidacy it will make your head spin. I can see that yours is spinning now.
But no amount of spinning is going to change the reality.
Unless that is, some more nefarious Chicago politics is on the agenda and they’re planning to hit McCain and I mean that in the Soprano vernacular. Given Obama’s tactics in the past and who he’s connected to, I would not put anything past these haters of America.
The point is, NY is not going to be a walk in the park. And I think CA even less.
So what are you talking about here?
I keep forgetting… You all are just plain stupid.
do the math. it’s over
Hillary Clinton is an opportunistic liar.
Oops, watch that sniper fire.
If she’s so great why didn’t she beat Obama way back on Super Tuesday? Because she’s a phony and people are beginning to wake up to the phony politics that elected Bill Clinton and George Bush.