Frank Luntz Praises Hillary’s Speech & More Punditry
By SusanUnPC on April 23, 2008 at 1:35 AM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Hillary Clinton, Pennsylvania
NOTICE: Hillary Clinton will “roadblock all six broadcast and cable morning shows Wednesday.”
GIGGLER OF THE NIGHT: “[Tim] Russert just said that in a general election, Obama needs to shore up his support with working class white women. Fair enough. He speculated that you might do that by focusing on the economy. Sounds plausible. He then speculated you might do that by picking Mike Bloomberg as VP. So put it all together, and Russert thinks working class white women are looking for . . . New York City’s billionaire Jewish mayor? Really?” — from Matthew Yglesias for The Atlantic
POPULAR VOTE NUMBERS: ABC News Delegate Tracker (down one screen) notes that, if you count Michigan, Hillary has taken the lead in the popular vote:
Hillary - 15,005,761
Obama - 14,893,607
ABC’s JAKE TAPPER adds, “Why Can’t Obama Win Pennsylvania?“:
There’s this presumption out there, it seems to me, as if it’s just a CRAZY notion that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, would be able to win the Keystone State, like the idea is INSANE, just unfathomable, as if the state consists of Bill, Chelsea, and les freres Rodham.
I don’t begrudge the Obama campaign for successfully setting Sen. Clinton’s bar so high — that’s its job — and of course I understand that in order for Clinton to have a real shot, she needs a big W so as to eat away at Obama’s 800,000 popular vote lead, and to make the argument to super-Ds that states such as Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Florida are a problem for him.
Fine, fine.
But what’s so crazy about the idea that the Democratic frontrunner — flush with cash and outspending Clinton 3-to-1, running against a candidate with such high unfavorable ratings — should be able to win a blue state primary?
Just because Clinton has the support of the governor and the mayors of the two largest cities? So what? This isn’t about Ed Rendell. …
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Special thanks to Vet4Hill for the video.
The full video and text of Hillary’s speech are in the post just below “Hillary’s Victory Is Our Victory …”
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Hillary - 15,005,761
Obama - 14,893,607
OK I’ll have that drink after all. Just a wee one. I can sit and muse, speculate on what David Axelrod’s new career will be.
maybe he could bake cookies and give teas?
Or iron my shirt.
LOL!
We’re ahead if you count FL and MI:
Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)** Obama 14,973,720 47.4%
Clinton 15,095,663 47.8% Clinton +121,943 +0.4%
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* Obama 15,307,804 47.5%
Clinton 15,319,525 47.5% Clinton +11,721 +0.03%
* estimates, IA NV ME WA did not release popular vote counts
he could appeal to blue collar folks if he had a personality transplant.
EFF the NYT. To this pathetic, Obama-like weak editorial:
NYT joke editorial
I left the following response, which is likely to not see the light of the comment board but which need to be said:
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An embarrassing and untoward editorial from The Old Gray Lady. To put it mildly, you are far better than this.
There is a very good reason why you are writers and editors and the high-priced political consultants have their own jobs. To put it bluntly: Stay in the shallow end of the political pool and stick with spliced commas.
Senator Obama has not been properly vetted, much as your paper failed in its duty to help Americans vet the supposed intelligence which led up to the Iraq War, or failed to capture fabricating employees.
There are numerous reasons why the Times is slipping without any hopes of righting itself in terms of advertising revenue and distribution. This editorial is a succinct display of those reasons.
If you decide it is your obligation to play the new Pat Leahy to Mrs. Clinton, do not be surprised when your readers decide to mimic Dick Cheney to your Leahy.
Hillary won an enormous victory tonight, and your desire to have the referees prematurely stop the contest demonstrates the same lack of resilience and strength which has just seen Obama both turn down a debate in North Carolina and decide not to talk with reporters for 10 days.
John Adams would be disgusted with both you and the Illinois senator.
Paul F. Villarreal
VillarrealSports.com
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Please let the NYT how you feel about their cheap shot on Hillary Clinton in the wake of her stirring win.
That was bloody brilliant!
I did let them know! Thanks to you and all who do so.
Also thanks to all for working on behalf of “our” candidate, HRC. Particularly to this blog, its owners, and contributors.
Paul,
You spoke for all of us.
LJ
Paul,
your writing as usual was spot on and brilliant. The Times may not realize that they are being taken down when it is done with such class. They are more familiar with the ranting lunatics that infest the Internet. I applaud your tact, your ability to articulate their many and egregious faults and to do it with style. Bravo. In a battle of wits you are awesomely armed.
Well done Paul. I saw that piece and thought of just how lame it is. Sometimes I see what someone is NOT saying. What they are not saying spoke volumes. Wind.Out.Of.Sails.
been there and done that. dr dean also heard from me this morning too.
Great comment; let me know if it shows up….
The NYT is blocking all critical comments; I tried really hard to no avail.
They are controlling the comments hard and letting all the pro-Obama ones vent and salute.
Disgusting….I am really angry about it.
In the comments section of the Matthew Yglesias article, a couple of people suggested that Obama pick Joe Lieberman as his VP. I would love to see Obama announce tomorrow that he is considering Holy Joe as his running mate. The Boyz in the Blogz like Kos and the rest of the crew heads would explode before they twisted themselves into knots trying to rationalize that move.
There’s not much difference between David Boren and Lieberman (besides Boren hiding in a closet all his life).
Since Boren endorsed Obama this last week, having Liebermen on his ticket wouldn’t be that far off base.
i don’t know about barry, but axelrod is smarter than that. i noticed ole timmy at msnbc seems to think that ladies will happily go back to the fold if bloomberg is veep candidate. ole timmy is slipping badly. goofy!
Have you seen my three part series on BOREN???
Oh, you must if you haven’t…it’s chock full of info on Boren, particularly his destruction of the energy proposals of 1993 (See Part II)….the guy is toxic for me!
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/
What is this obsession with choosing a Republican as a running mate? And yes, Lieberman is a Republican as anyone. Obama can’t think of a Democrat as a running mate. Same reason he is floating only Republicans for Cabinet positions. He is completely dependendent on those Obamacans for votes.
I don’t see anyone demanding that Hillary choose a Republican. She would clock them for even suggesting it. That is because she is a true Democrat.
Hillary wins decisively in all but one of the big state primaries, several of them “battleground” states where the November election will be one or lost, like Ohio, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
Obama wins caucuses and a few primaries in lots of small and/or solid red states that will almost certainly go to McCain next fall.
Who does the media, most of the lefty blogosphere and the Democratic Party elite think we should nominate?
McGovern - Mondale - Dukakis - Obama
The few, the lame, the losers
The Bob Shrum Syndrome.
Obama can win states (in the primaries) where we see:
1. Overwhelming superiority in numbers for African-Americans in the Democratic primary (SC, Georgia, Mississippi)
2. A large population of wealthy liberal whites (Connecticut, Maryland, Virginia, probably Oregon)
3. Lily-white Republican states (Idaho, Utah, Kansas, the Dakotas…)
Great coalition there. Are you paying attention, Superdelegates?
Obama CANT WIN in states we NEED IN NOVEMBER. We get it. Why don’t you?
And how many of those states are going to — as the One likes to put it — vote against their interests or party history? Damn few.
Exactly! And I watched them all. None were as lame as Obama either. Lame. Just. Plain. Lame.
The one thing they all have in common, besides being losers in a GE, is they were championed by the whackjob fringe that just won’t understand that they cannot hijack the Democratic party in a General Election.
Agree….There will be a major party housecleaning…The dominance of the left is over.
Morning Uppity!
One thing I noticed about the fringe in Obama’s camp……. a LOT of those voters started out as a champion of Dennis or Bill R then when Dennis fell short most of them moved to John E and after JE got out they had only 2 choices and Hillary was NOT IT.
Because MOST of them are the unforgiving left
The LOONY left sanctimonious (I’ve used that a LOT) holy roller left!
Not that far away from the LOONY bible thumping red letter giving RIGHT
I wonder if there is a place where previous voters for BO that have now realized they frigged up…… if there is a place they could undo (symbolically) their vote for that fraud?
I wonder?
Hillary Rediscovered….
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/
I didn’t want Hillary either…was an Edwards supporter…
But my path to Hillary, upon reflection, goes back to 1992 when I met her….
This election is in so many ways reminds me of 1972 but with Obama acting the part of Thomas Eagleton.
Eagleton was the nominee of VP who after receiving the nomination was discovered to have had electroshock therapy. The party did not vet the candidate and as a several weeks dragged on any chance McGovern had was destroyed by lack of action by the DNC. After awhile Eagleton was removed but the party could not find anyone to run with McGovern because his campaign became toxic. They eventually settled on Kennedy in-law Sgt. Shriever. The result was the worst election landslide in history with down ticket candidates suffering as well eventhough they tried to distance themselves from the McGovern campaign.
I see Obama as Eagleton not vetted not disclosing his nefarious connections and the DNC not recognizing the potential damaged it is doing to its prospects in November, not just with the presidency but down ticket as well.
I fear the Democratic Party is in for another Eagleton moment.
Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it. - Winston Churchill
Not much I can add to that.
interesting to hear timmy refer to“Obama as we and Hillary as she”….on msnbc… surprise, surprise!!
thanks for that observation!!!!!!!!
that is VERY interesting.
Strawberrybitch and Larry:
Thanks. I really appreciate your kind words.
I have no idea why the Times feels it has the right to try to blunt Clinton’s momentum with that BS editorial. The good news is that in looking at some of the comments on the piece, many people were rightly pissed of at the NYT’s cheap shot.
Look, if Obama is Jesus and Moses rolled into one, why is it that everybody is going out of their way to protect him? Didn’t Jesus spend 40 days in the desert or am I making a mistake?
Obama is one of the most pampered, spoiled candidates I can ever remember. He is a glass-jawed fraud. I have NO idea what people see in him except that which Shelby Steele has suggested, i.e., ‘white guilt.’
You are absolutely right about the fact that the obots, both online and in the press, are obsessed with protecting their messiah. The reason for that is obvious, at least to me. Even the obamatons most drunk on Kool-Aid know damned well that the man is an extremely weak candidate. He simply cannot stand up under the sort of battering a presidential contender is going to take. They are also well aware that he has a closet full of skeletons that haven’t yet been fully exposed to the public. Because of Obama’s many weaknesses and liabilities, his supporters feel compelled to try to protect him.
Of course, all that coddling just makes it apparent that he is weak and unready for the general election. If he can’t win a primary with all the money in the world and the press corps as his personal cheerleading squad, how can he beat McCain?
Notice how our board is suddenly cleaned up. That crow breakfast is taking a long time to eat. They’ve done more to ruin Obama’s chances than even Obama and Michelle. And that’s saying a LOT.
I wonder if that waffle is topped with CROW…or is it on the side…LOL
Just wait, they are getting their talking points and will be back in a day or two.
The thing is when you look at the level of vitriol coming from various pro-Obama sites aimed not only at Hillary but those who voted for her, its clear the Obama trolls are merely get whipped up.
The race card is already being deployed by the coastal elitists at Huffpuke and Sirota as a explanation why the messiah lost.
i don’t have any guilt. what my great great grandparents might have done does not relate to me. if we were still doing it, maybe. and frankly, i have to wonder just how many today are decendants from that group. a number of immigrnnts have come in since then. that faux guilt trip will only work so long and only on a few. then it will backfire. i think there is a real argument to be made for better schools, higher education, medical care and jobs. but this false guilt trip is just silly.
Write the NY Times!
This morning’s NY Times has an anti-Clinton editorial straight from the desk of David Axelrod (via Frank Rich, no doubt). It is so full of Obama-pandering and logic-lapses that there is no way it could be the result of their Editorial Board (as claimed).
Article here –
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/opinion/23wed1.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Make Comments –
http://community.nytimes.com/article/comments/2008/04/23/opinion/23wed1.html#postComment
Sorry I missed Paul’s earlier comments on this. At least I provided links.
That may well be the most disingenuous editorial I have ever read in the NY Times, and I’ve read a few. However, was it racism that allowed their effete sensibilities to not be offended by images of Katrina?
America suffered two major terrorist attacks on US soil during Bill Clinton’s term in office. In both cases, those responsible were apprehended and convicted. Bin Laden still walks freely, something the Times seems to have forgotten.
Post a comment, but don’t read the other posts if you don’t want to spend the day in an angry haze. People are just utterly clueless. “Thank you NY Times!” “Hillary needs to go!” “McAulliffe is trying to twist the rules to give Hillary the nomination!” (seriously!)
It’s scary how deluded these people are.
Deluded, and mean-spirited. And pathetic poor sports.
Suck it, losers. How do you expect to deal with Obama getting pounded like a pinata in November if you react like this over a loss in Pennsylvania?
Hillary did really well 70% of the catholic vote in Pa. When you factor in Latinos, another huge block of the catholic vote…Large populations in the southwest and both coasts….For the first time in years the catholic vote becomes really relevant. OBAMESSIAH wll not be able to make the inroads with this vote in Nov. Although McInsane with his association with Agee the freak has been a little hurt in terms of distasteful hesitation in the minds of Catholc voters and OBAMESSIAH will try to exploit this. he will not succeed. OBAMESSIAH will not succeed because catholics know there is a big difference between an expediant endorsement by FreakAgee and 20 yrs. of indoctrination in BLACK (SEPARATIST) LIBERATION THEOLOGY, which most catholics find deeply disturbing…..Caholics are very aware of Liberation Theology and it’s history with the church throughout Latin America. When your candidacy disturbs voting blocks of two of the traditional orthodox religions ( catholics and Jews ) even in his largely protestant country notice should be taken. I would suggest to Kennedy and Kerry, GO TO MASS and have a chat with some everyday catholics.
liberation theology in latin america did bring out some i think sincere catholic priests. i notice that it was put down by the vatican. at the end of the day good intentions often take the wrong road. that happened in a number of occasions in latin america. the road taken by rev wrong and obama does not even have good intentions.
It was smacked down by the vatican for a number of reasons…Here’s a couple…The theology subverts doctinal authority of any denomination (why the baptists wouldn’t give Wright a church)….Social justice achieved with marxist ideology….Making christian identity into militant action…The list goes on. The historical consenses is still up in the air about history in Latin America on this, but the vatican is clear and most catholics were wary of the miltant mix….It’s interesting stuff to read up on. Black Liberation Theology is black sepratism with sprinkle of Jesus to help Marx wash down a bit easier.
thanks so much for the update. you really know your “stuf”. i have some sympathy for the priests in latin america but i can’t find any for the rev wrong brand of theology.
the priests in latin america lived in poor conditions and sometimes died for their beliefs, whereas rev wrong sure profitited ie 10000 square foot home and all. i can see however why the catholic church would have to end this trend with the marxist background and what appeared to be open rebellion to rome.
I haveto agree with you on that one. Liberation Theology is very seductive…Mostly it was smacked down as an heresy. A lot of priests that were involved in Latin America got caught up in trying to change things and many were killed. Ultimately it is a dangerous mix. The RCC has been trying to redefine political activism and square it for catholics, ut they don’t like tactics that call for ( CLASS WARFARE ) The RCC has been there and done that. I took a theology class in college taught be an ex-jesuit when this shit was hitting the fan globaly. It was one of the best philosophy classes I ever took…..Americans ned to understand that this shit is just as radical as radical Islam is that’s why Wright sounds so scary,
He is scary…..Liberation Theology is extremist…Extremism is scary.
Catholic from NW PA here- they need to go to confession too! For lying and trying to cheat the American people out of their right to vote.
I looked at the numbers for the counties from Erie down to Pittsburgh- Mercer county was 70%- 30% Hillary! Every county from Eire on down was over 60% Hillary! She did very well in Allegheny County- you know home of Pittsburgh and all the colleges??? Where she won 54-45? LOL- guess the students were not registered in PA or did not come out??? Or, Like my daughter, don’t drink the kool-aid????
Guess us bitter, gun-toting, church going hicks still recognize the best candidate when we see her and we are not buying any snake oil this year thank you!
Drats, so I can’t try and sell you a bridge?
LOL…Can you imagine if they were given a serious PENANCE what that woud be….LOL
thank you PA!!
This Michael Bloomberg … just askin’, not sayin’
http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/092807WA.shtml
I’m sure that if Ayers is a problem, demoting pregnant woman is hardly going to garner a great relationship.
Truthout — what pigs.
They were demanding that Hillary quit after winning ohio. I unsubscribed and won’t bother to read their trash.
I unsubscribed to the NY Times weeks ago; I wish I could unsubscribe twice.
Just like I cancelled my subscription to The New Republic (after more than ten years) earlier this year; I gave the operator a mouthful when I did it, I wish I could cancel again so I could spout off with my reasons why.
Did you look at the post?
Bee….It just keeps piling up don’t it…..
Hillary’s speech was, as usual, just great. She always engages with her audience and it is apparent that they are with her 100%. So few of the pundidiots ever notice or comment about her speaking ability. But then she is Hillary Clinton and must never be shown in a favorable light. Ever.
Evidently the people are seeing through all these pundidiots and their drivel.
I remember years ago when a JFK speech on television ended and my mother turned to my dad and said, “Now some idiot is gonna come on and tell all us morons what he meant by what he said”. She had it right then and the people have it right now.
I didn’t watch the returns last night. I swooped in periodically to get numbers and swooped right back to whatever nonsensical program I was watching.
The pundidiots on CNN, I care too much for my aging intellect to ever watch the pinheads on MSNBC, particularly Borger and Toobin can be relied upon to make a case against Hillary Clinton no matter what the numbers are. But then Obama is still, to a certain extent, the media’s darling. Real Americans with real brains shouldn’t like that much. They should remember that GeeDubya was the media’s darling too. Look how well that worked.
After the votes are counted, the only thing that matters to me, is what the numbers say. Pundidiots have long since lost their entertainment value and are now just bores that get in the way of a rational discourse and an honest election.
Pundidiots! ROFL that is great!
I would suggest to everybody that you tune out the pundits on CNN and MSNBC. We know they are corporate owned and they want to keep their War Contracts. They are the biggest war profiteers out there. I watched the returns and Hillary’s victory speech on C-Span. It was very different. I heard conversations real-time without pundit heads speaking over her. There was no spin. Why watch these shows and their advertizers and give them the viewership they do not deserve. They do NOT serve America. They, like Obama, serve only themselves. They will be in the tank for McCain in the General Election. Cut their balls off now. Obama thinks he can win the women’s vote with a wink and a kiss and a “sweetie”, as a gay guy, I can say that he’s not Brad Pitt.
The only network I am watching is ABC.
They had the balls to ask the questions the other night.
I skip happily over the rest.
They are turning themselves into dinosauers.
Being mugged by the smugness of THEM is just such a joke.
I hate to say it, but I really enjoyed watching Fox Newschannel last night. Very gracious, entirely fair to Hillary, giving her the praise she richly deserved. Not at all like the whiny sour-grapes losers over at MSNBC and CNN.
who knew i actually stay there fore more than 5 minutes at a time. come the ge, who knows. i’ll probably have to leave. but msnbc is sunk to a new low in the same baggage car with the gray lady.
we should definitely tune out for sweeps week which I think is right now!
Guys like Russert have to be having a really bad morning. All tha POWER! All that power and she still kicked Barry’s ass. That means she kicked THEIR asses too.
I can’t wait to watch Roland Martin explain how Obama really won last night on CNN.
Anybody seen Donna Brazille?
She’s probably sweeping up the pieces of her mirror mirror on the wall.
Uppity…have you heard anything about Obamaman Lessing and a anti-jesus spoof video he put up a a google conference…Could be useful in upcoming Indiana…
here it is … capture it fast before it is gone
http://www.zimbio.com/OBAMA+WE+NEED+YOU+NOW/articles/144/Obama+tech+advisor+makes+video+Jesus+gay+wearing
Thanks Bee….They should be playing this up as much as possible in the upcoming Indiana, NC, WV…I meant if this shit does’nt reveal the typical elitist left politics and is a good chaser or that stupid and revealing Clinging to religion and guns comment of baby-O. You know I ain’t no puritan….But that was just plain INSULTING….
I think they just like to shock the shit out of people.
Kids are learning that what you put in facebook can bite you in the butt when it comes time to interview for a job … but apparently we’re supposed to look the other way when it comes to a presidential candidate? Logic? Consistency?
You know one of favorite movies is DOGMA…A spoof written by a catholic that at least makes you think….That video was just plain insulting and idiotic…I think OBAMESSIAH’s supporters proove daily that they are out of touch with Americans…Just as the party leadership is out of touch as well….
Last night, after Hillary’s speech, Donna Brazile said that Obama has to win IN. He has to show he can win a big state. Wolf didn’t bother following up, but I think this is huge. If Brazile is having second thoughts, then you know the rest of the supers are as well.
I don’t think Barry will win In. espcially if they get wind of that Anti-Jesus spoof run by that ass OBAMAN at the Google conference….
Donna isn’t having second thoughts. She is setting another bar for Hillary to hop over. She is about as obvious as a sink hole.
Queen Donna knows Barry is sending loads of folks over to Indy from Illinois
I am hoping the true blue Dems of Indy will pull out another win for Hillary and the Dems
i was on cnn about 30 seconds last night. i thought i heard that whiny voice and cruised on out of there.
MONEY CAN’T BUY THE LOVE!
YOU GO GIRL! 10 PERCENT IS AWESOME!!!
I HOPE THE MONEY KEEPS COMING!
Broadway Baby, baby. Read what a Chicago Trib columnist says about a new problem for Obama — http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-23-apr23,1,4967065.column
I gave $100 last night, and my wife is planning on giving something today.
everytime i think it can’t get any worse, it does. broadway baby will get a long a profitful run for repubs.
Is HRC’s win in PA enough to make her the “comeback kid”?
VOTE !!!
http://www.cnn.com/am
I have been watching Morning Joe. This is incredible- I am sure it won’t last- but Hillary is actually receiving major compliments- and they (Chris Matthews) is actually pointing out OCharma’s major short comings.
Hummm, maybe I should pinch myself…or…have we all worked so hard that the tide is actually turning?
They are going to learn sooner or later that they will NOT tell us who we want for President. If they can’t cover truth, we will find it elsewhere and pass it on, and we will KEEP passing it on till it becomes Common Knowledge.
Yes! Grapevines spread out in ALL kinds of directions. NO limitations.
This could be shaping up to be a fight between Old guard pols of ither party backlah against the ” New Politics “. The more baby-O’s slam the internet and us childish thuggery…The more the old guard is gettin pissed off. If the race was between McInsane and Clinton it would be just the usual political race…Folks are gettin tired of the left anti-everyone BS…Esp. the RACE CARD….It won’t fly against the GOP.
Sorry about my typos…I need batteries for my keyboard….
You know, if I were Hillary, I wouldn’t want, (or take it as a good sign), the support of guys like Russert, and Matthews.
They have NO credibility, and they’re so easily swayed, or bought.
I wouldn’t look a gift horse in the mouth, but I would nurture, or look for new, trustworthy journalistic support, people who don’t pander, who tell the truth.
And tell the truth to my opponent, as well.
I’m steeling myself to go over to Taegan Goddard’s site and learn why Hillary’s win was a loss, up is down, and black is white.
Then I can read the posts, and learn why Hillary only won PA because she’s a bitch, but she didn’t really even win, and she needs to quit now, and that the racists won again, except she didn’t really win.
On another topic: once again, we find in Pennsylvania what will never be mentioned by the media: that the real “racists” among the voters are the African-Americans. Or does MSNBC and CNN think that black voters keep going for Barack 9-1 because they prefer his Health Care plan?
Why, that would be racist, of course!
My visit was exactly as predicted: “do the math, she can’t win,” links to comments by David Axelrod explaining this was “no big deal” and posts like “people dont like her, thats why she didnt win by twenty points like she was supposed to…”
What the F-ever. I think Taegan Goddards’ people are people who left Kos and HuffingtonPost because they couldn’t deal with the elevated level of discourse there.
the sad thing here is that obama hasn’t done anything for the aa community and probably won’t in the future. so why vote for him? i can see being proud and inclined to vote for him but think critically. the clintons have done a lot for aa’s, so i think their vote for barry is shameful.
Dowd column is the NYT today was one of the most disgusting pieces of crap I have ever read. I think there is something mentally wrong with that women. She goes around talking about how she can’t find a man who is worthy of her, maybe it’s because she is a frustrated old bag without any appeal to the opposite sex. She is another wind bag who I wish would just go away.
Agree…GAGODOWD….another overated mediochre writer who still aint’ over her highschool shit….
she wants to be the next dorothy parker but doesn’t have the talent.
And most definitely she ( GAGODOWD ) lacks the sense of humor….
I don’t know If anyone has posted this yet, but Barry’s got some more “splainin’ ” to do over his Ayers/Dohrn domestic terorist connections, as per the John Kass article on page 2, Section”A” of today’s Chicago Tribune:
John Kass: Obama’s underground link trouble
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-kass-23-apr23,0,3364134.column
The article discusses a high-end baby clothing boutique in New York in the early 1980s with ties to Dohrn. Customer identities were stolen to create phony IDF documentation to use to rent get-away cars for robberies to get cash for more terrorist activities in the U.S. No indictments came out of this either, so Ayers’ parental connections may have helped them skate free of this mess as well (and Obama wasn’t 8 years old at this time).
Oh, for god’s sake, I was wondering about that…
You know, I wonder if those old guy kooks like Ayers didn’t give up the terrorist life, but instead just moved to the Internet, googlebombs, rather than dynamite.
If true, it makes me feel like shouting :”Hey, Ayers, you crazy old fart, you’re TOO OLD for this crap, leave it to the disaffected kids…”
Heh.
“Let’s hack the Pentagon, as opposed to bombing it…”
Ehemmm…..Ayers is a crazy cracker MOFO still on bad acid…I’m just sayin’…
yup, i am sure the repubs are working on their commercial regarding this right now. let’s see how old was barry then?
Sorry, make that phony ID docuuments, not “IDF” documents (fat fingers this morning.
Oh, what a beautiful morning,
Oh, what a beautiful day.
I have a wonderful feeling,
Everything’s going Hillary’s way :-)!
Good morning, NoQuarter! It’s good to be a Hillary supporter! To celebrate and further the cause, I went to http://www.hillaryclinton.com this morning and made a donation, and I challenge all you beautiful, wonderful people here to do the same. Here’s my receipt:
Contribution Details
Date: April 23, 2008 8:56 AM EDT
Contact: Talktruth
Amount: $49.99
It’s the most I’ve given (got the tax check back!). I guess I should have made it $49.44; it’s such a weird number because the hubby and I have an agreement not to spend over $50 without consulting each other :-J. Actually, I know he’d agree, because he loves her, too, but I don’t want to wait to make the donation!!
The meme, not to mention the zeitgeist, are going to have to change now. It will be a pleasure to witness. It may not be huge right away, but it’ll be good :-).
Hillary Rediscovered….
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/
The view of one “older, under-valued woman” (the kind the Democratic Party wants to ignore…)
Baby-O’s supporters are claiming that Al Gore secretly leans towards the baby…..If that is so why would Al Gore say the race should continue….Jimmy Carter through a spokeman told the Scotsman that he and Al Gore would have a chat with Hillary about dropping out of the race…After Jimmyn Carter was HUMILIATED with his Hamas chat…Does this guy really have any pull in the party anymore?…Things that make you go Hmmmm…..
The DNC is trying to push that guy down the publics throats and they are gaging on him. He is becoming more and more unelectable, the public sees it, the republicans sees it, some of the media is beginning to realize it but the Democratic Party is going to shove this bucket of bad medicine in us and it is going to be vomited up in November. Were would he be if he was getting 65% of the AA vote? Out of the race.
I’m just jumpin in here before reading comments but I can’t HELP MYSELF!!!!
YAYYYYYY HILLARYYYYYYYY!!!
OoooooooooRAHHHHHHHHH!
wish I could still do a decent cartwheel!
and Thank YOU PENNSYLVANIA!!
paul villarreal -
you said it very well.
here’s a little anecdote in keeping with the thoughts emotions you expressed:
my wife is a very easy going woman. but she came to me this morning with the nytimes open and folded to the editorial page.
before she said a word, i could see on her face she was really angry. i said “what’s wrong?”
she said “this”
and pushed the paper to me pointing toward that dumb-assed lead editorial.
“they finally pushed me over the edge”, she said.
she’s been gong back and forth about canceling her subscription out of anger at frank rich and maureen dowd.
i suggested to her that she cancel her subscription
temporarily,
say for a month or so.
that not only deprives the nytimes and its business associates of revenue
but it costs them money to process the cancellation.
then you call back in a month or so and re-subscribe.
more paper work for the nytimes.
i doubt she’ll do this because she likes her morning paper and there is more to a newspaper than bad political journalism.
still it was a sweet fantasy.
the only way to discipline a media corporation is to affect their bottom line.
I see the NYT as the equivalent of MSNBC, or CNN.
Why bother, it’s a thing of the past, their credibilty…
Better to dig out an Internet site when looking for news, or go with the BBC, for the moment.
I’ve found the most unbiased news network, such as it is, to be ABC, both local, and of all things, GMA, and Diane Sawyer. And the Chicago papers are great for the truth about Obama.
Not perfect, by ANY means, sometimes downright slanted, but bearable.
It’s like sewing a patchwork quilt, isn’t it, a little news here, a little news there…
Must be how the rest of the civilized world felt when we were beating the drums for war and screaming “mission accomplished” from a flight deck in a harbor in California.
I keep insisting that the only difference between the extremes of the left and the extremes of the right is direction.
Can you imagine how the Republicans would welcome the centrist Democrats washing up on shore after being toss sans life jacket from the Titanic that is the party of FDR? If it wasn’t so depressing, it would be wryly amusing.
Arthur Sulzburger, Jr., Chairman & Publisher
publisher@nytimes.com
Scott H. Heekin-Canedy, President & General Manager
president@nytimes.com
I just sent an email regarding the op/ed article entitled “The Low Road To Victory”. These people need only to read HuffPo to know that Obama’s supporters have taken the low road. They need only to view that infamous speech he gave the day after the last debate to know that HE has taken the low road.
P.S. Send Hillary some love and money.
Bravo! Absolutely perfect!!!!!
I left this comment last night on that nasty editorial and it wasn’t included. I don’t know what part they didn’t like–the truth about the sexism or calling him Kool and his Gang…
I’m hearing a lot of jawwing about Clinton’s negativity. My advice is not to pay any attention to it - IT’S ALL THEY’VE GOT! Any thinking person can see that she is winning and will continue to win. He is a loser, losing, and will continue to lose.
Hillary is not being negative, she’s being TRUTHFUL. BO and his bots can’t handle the truth: The majority of the country does not want this odd little man to be the president. They need to get over it. If Hillary didn’t get out there and tell the truth, she wouldn’t be the ethical, principled person we know her to be.
I think a large majority of Democrats will get behind Senator Clinton, once she has the nomination. The more people are exposed to her, the more they like her, other than the die-hard, “nyah, nyah, nyah, I can’t hear you” people. The rest of us will join together and take back our great country!
USA! USA!
Tweety Matthews called it an “excellent speech” last night, saying she was confident, competent and calm and didn’t go into a stemwinder like she had previously.
Then the punditry took the usual turn… how she spoke like she just wanted Obama out of the way….is that the new meme?
I was thinking about this while I pulled up poison ivy (a fitting metaphor, don’t you think?). What I was feeling this morning was that the new meme is going to be better than the old one. The old one was, “Hillary is barely hanging on by her fingernails - she should surely drop out, so as not to “tear the party apart (forgetting, all the while, that you could make the same argument against BO).”
The new meme will still be against Hillary - I think we can count on that until she finishes her second term. But it will be more of a question of “What the hell is going on? Does Senator Clinton have a chance? How come Barack can’t win the big ones?” Before, it was, in the MSM, that she didn’t have the numbers and she should quit, or at least quit after she only won PA by single digits. Now there will be much more scrutiny of Obama, and the superdelegates will be a part of that. And the quitting noise, while maybe not dying down completely, will diminish to a less shrill whine.
Oh, and one more thing. Yes, Hillary will sound like she wants BO out of the way. She thinks she’s better qualified, and therefore thinks she should be the nominee. Of course, she wants him out of the way, just as he wants her out of the way, and McCain wants them both out of the way. It’s a competition!
Tweety is definitely part of that shrill whine.
Luntz seemed absolutely smitten with Hillary’s performance last night! His comments and his analysis were awesome! I’m so glad I’ve recorded a lot of these primaries and debates, but especially her speech last night. These are memories I will always cherish and when we are all lined up along the parade route as she’s making her final exit from 1600 Pennsylvania in January 2017 (right year? lol), I’ll be recording then too. Hillary is one amazing woman.
You know I’m happy when I make vids like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iscG2J_lT9I
nice video! we should start putting up those numbers everywhere.
Perhaps the DNC power elites prefer Obama because of his weakenesses. It’s much easier to control and to have unfettered access to the Oval Office with a president who is totally dependent on his handlers (which Obama surely would be), plus, those skeletons in his closet are a security deposit that he will keep secret their control over his policies and be an obedient front man.
Obviously, these same power elites do not feel as confident that they will be given free reign over the presidency with Senator Clinton!
Thus, this strategy (albeit flawed and stupid), is a last ditch effort by the “good ‘ol boys” club to maintain their power.
We cannot allow them to steal this election for Obama. Time for a revolution!
stealing it? yup that and losing it also.
Thanks so much for posting that video, Susan. I just got a chance to look at it, and I cried with joy ;-).
Landslide! We need a little historical perspective. The margin between Reagan and Carter in 1980 was a 9.7 percent spread, roughly the same as last night’s spread in Pennsylvania. We called it a landslide then, and we should call it a landslide now. But the analogy goes even further.
If you want to use the electoral college as a measure, Reagan won 44 states and Carter won 7 (including the District of Columbia), that is, Reagan won 86.3 percent of the electoral college entities, and Carter won 13.7. The only comparable comparison in the primary is counties. Pennsylvania has 67 counties. It appears that Hillary won 62 of them, and Obama won five of them, that is, Hillary won 92.5 percent of Pennsylvania counties, and Obama won 7.5.
A landslide is a landslide is a landslide.
DCDem, you touch on an important point.
What creates LANDSLIDES is the Electoral College. If the Democrats used the Electoral System to determine delegates, Hillary would have already locked this up… even BEFORE Pennsylvania. If Michigan and Florida were either counted, or allowed a reasonable re-vote, she would be ahead in delegates AND popular votes.
Hillary, by the measure we use to elect presidents, is winning the nomination by a landslide. Only the DNC, Leftblogistan, and the MSM are perpetuating the false idea that it’s the other way around.
Having been “Clean for Gene”, having worked for McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis (unenthusiastically, I admit), and Kerry, I feel confidant in using this quote as a teaching moment for Dems everywhere…
Found this Donna Brazile comment from last night.
Will follow up with the link. Thank GOD laughter is good aerobic exercise!!!
Donna Brazile, a Democratic political strategist and a superdelegate, said in an appearance on CNN that she will make her decision about Clinton or Obama public in the coming weeks and hopes other superdelegates will decide on a nominee well before the Democratic convention in August.
Brazile said she has already made the choice for president in her “heart” but will wait to announce which candidate she will support in the coming weeks.
http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/movingamerica08/clintonwins423
We will be waiting with bated breath - NOT :-b!
That was supposed to be under beebop’s post about D. Brassiere’s Gutter Ball announcement :*-J.
She has a heart? Really? I doubt it….
Interesting comment at the Jake Tapper story that’s referenced above (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/why-cant-obam-1.html):
Obama likes to claim he has more political experience that Senator Clinton because of his time in the IL senate. On paper he may have but that can be debunked easily enough. The IL Senate meets for a total of 55 days a year.
Not only that, he can’t produce a SHRED of information about what he actually DID there … follow the shreds …
I know, beebop, and that is so outrageous. They would *shred* Hillary if she tried that crap.
The good news is that all of the negative things about Obama will wake different people up to his true nature. Some will be pushed away from him by the missing papers news, others by Rezko, etc., others by his arrogance.
That’s actually what first caught my attention, once my man Edwards dropped out, before I knew much about BO. He looked at Senator Clinton and said, in the most haughty way, “You’re likeable enough, Hillary,” and I knew we had a nutcase on our hands. He doesn’t know how to control himself, or he might way ahead of her right now.
Another good snippet from that poster, navyvet48 (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/why-cant-obam-1.html):
Last night just after the primary was called for Hillary she raised quite a bit of money and it is still growing. 80% of that money came from new donors. A tide has turned. People are listening.
I guess I’d better get started pulling up the poison ivy before we put down the new fence. See you later!
It sure would be a sin to lose the WELL KNOWN BELLWEATHER state in the GE, when all those hicks who pray a lot and hold onto their guns vote for John McCain.
Good morning everyone!
And a wonderful morning it is!
Congratulations are in order to everyone here who has been fighting hard to keep Hillary in the game. You gals and guys warm my heart with your tireless dedication to the best darn candidate out there.
She is not only in the game, but has put her opponent on the ropes: All Obama has left is race-baiting and delusional Kool-aid drinkers writing columns.
Speaking of hallucinating, Obama has been if he thinks he can defeat the Clinton machine.
Time is Obama’s worst enemy now, as more scandals will probably see the light of day. Howard Dean can stuff his demands in a sock. He ain’t no king maker and Obama ain’t gonna be anointed no king.
Ciao!
Much has been made of Barack Obama’s community organizing days in Chicago. Lost is the fact that Hillary Clinton came into New York with her husband’s failures, high negativity ratings, and the label of carpetbagger and she won over upstate rural voters, bringing them back into the Democratic fold.
She was the ultimate community organizer. And she did it in PA and will do so in Indiana. While Obama talks about the bitterness of rural Americans Clinton has been helping them lead better lives. He needs to reach out to this group — genuinely reach out — or they are lost to McCain.
Boycott MSNBC and CNN please. Do not give them any ratings. Check –tvnewser.com.
Also, I’m keeping it on FOX because Cnn is jealous of their ratings (I’ll do anything to irritate them after this primary).
If punditry were any other profession in the world, these people would have been fired already. They are never right about anything.
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What a beautiful night and now, morning. OK, let us start the drumbeat on FL and MI (of course, we will add MI — who asked him to take his name off the ballot?). One person, one vote, everybody counts; otherwise, it is not called democracy.
Hillary - 15,005,761
Obama - 14,893,607
(delegate count on mydd was less than 20 difference 1707(O), 1692(C) — I think that will be made up as well.)
BTW, Jerome at mydd is saying the same thing..
“…5) The Clinton campaign needs to talk more about the popular vote. They have been taking a bigger picture view, and arguing about the GE and electability, but they need to bring it down a few notches of process, and put Obama on the defensive. The ~215K margin of victory by Clinton provides them with enough votes to take the popular vote lead, counting Florida and Michigan. It’s a two-fer in that sense, providing a winning metric and making Obama say that FL & MI voters don’t count. And with that, change the delegate number needed from 2025 to 2209.”
From this Obama supporter, I tip my hat to the Clinton campaign, and the posters of No Quarter, for a well-won Pennsylvania primary.
On to North Carolina!
Thank you Jeff.
Uncle Jeremiah, why are those bitter people so expensive?
Think you mean…Uncle Jeremiah, why are those bitter CRACKERS so expensive…LOL
kate stone (9:407)
excellent points.
right on.
http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/23/clinton-snags-prominent-southern-blue-dog-superdelegate/
Clinton Snags Tennessee SuperdelegateWednesday, April 23rd, 2008
hillary got a new superdelegate today ,,,but ofcourse media will not mention it ,,so pls post the link everywhere
I am impressed with Frank Luntz’ analysis : it almost moved me as much as HRC speech. Luntz got it; smart guy.
James Wolcott on today’s NY Times editorial…
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/blogs/wolcott/2008/04/shorter-new-yor.html
This is hilarious !!!!!!!!! Yes, that’s what he wants finish his waffle. LOL !!!
Thanks for the link PMS
Definitely. Thanks!
http://thepage.time.com/clinton-camp-memo-on-obama-negative-attacks/
Clinton Camp Memo on Obama Negative Attacks
ITS LENGTHY ……SO IDID NOT WANNA COPY IT
BUT PLS post it everywhere ,,,paste and copy ,,,,on all the major news media,,and news papers ,,,,,,like huff,,nytimes,,,time,,cnn,,msnbc,,,fox,,,dailykos..
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Hillary is not being negative when she has to come out repeatedly and confront Obama on his continual lying about her and her programs.
Obama lies about Hillary’s healthcare plan, NAFTA, her character, her Iraq vote, her stance on Iraq, his stance on Iraq, the lobbyist money he “doesn’t” take in from big oil, drugs, subprime lenders; he said he only took a small amount of money from Rezko, as of now it’s at $250,000; he didn’t hear his racist preacher, then he did hear him, and so much more. He tells us one thing and tells Canada don’t believe it, it’s only political rhetoric; he says one thing on Iraq, his advisors say something else.
I found it greatly insulting when he lied about President Bill Clinton’s Greatest Economic Expansion in History. He repeatedly lied by first stating that we went through “decades” of economic suppresion, then when he thought people may not be catching on he specifically said the “Bush and Clinton” administrations. If anyone is stupid enough to believe that they better take a class in recent history. That was REAL CHANGE. Obama repeated a blatant lie and attempt at deceit that is unforgivable.
Hillary Clinton simply speaks the truth and she is accused of being negative. She has every right to try to correct the lies that Obama is spreading about her. She has every right to point out that Obama has no experience and no record. He’s a vote-dodging slouch. Hillary has been much too soft on Obama, just like the media.
He can give a good speech but he has no plans, no details, and should not be trusted to lead this country, especially at a crucial time like this. This is not a personality contest, this is serious business. Hillary should make every effort to try to convey this to the young who are caught up in a rush.
The media missed the whole reason why people are insulted by Obama’s stupid and hurtful “bitter” remark. The insult is not in being called bitter. The insult is in being described as prejudicial or racist. …………. “or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment”………….
Obama skated through this whole campaign with the help of the media until in one debate he was finally asked some serious questions and he couldn’t handle it. Ferraro was right, if he was white he would not be where he is because he has no record of accomplishments, only a record of shady friends.
@ Susan UnPC:
I was with you when you restated Russert’s comments. What I’m not with you on is your insertion of “Jewish” into the description of Bloomberg.
Come on, we don’t need to be doing this. We’re already being ripped in the blogosphere for being racists. We aren’t, but the “Jewish” adjective is OT. I don’t care about a person’s religious affiliation, race/color/ethnicity/sexual orientation.
It’s the policies and the ideology that drives them that I look at.
@ Susan UnPC:
Uh, can I drop through a crack in the floor now?
I just added a comment before noticing that the “Jewish” comment came from Matthew Yglesias.
Mea culpa; mea culpa. My face is SOOOOOOOOOO red right now…
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