Rev. Wright “On The Couch” [UPDATED]
By SusanUnPC on April 25, 2008 at 9:40 PM in Barack Obama, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.
Probably most of you on the East Coast may have already seen, or be watching Bill Moyers’ Journal right now. I’m West Coast, so will catch it in a couple hours. [UPDATES: Transcript at PBS; Knowvox's MyDD diary and interpretations; and Cutting Edge News' article -- quite revealing -- of Wright's life story.]
Besides tonight’s PBS appearance and his speech at the National Press Club Monday morning (to be aired on C-Span at 9 a.m. ET) — Wright is speaking Sunday morning at a Dallas church and that afternoon at an NAACP event in Detroit, I hear. That totals FOUR appearances in a four-day time period. That is a full-fledged MEDIA TOUR.
I have some thoughts about why Rev. Wright HIMSELF is SEEKING to dominate the news, no matter the fallout or blowback to Barack Obama:
FOREMOST: I believe that Rev. Jeremiah Wright is deeply ANGRY with Barack Obama.
Obama has dismissed him, repudiated him, but also done so in the most milquetoast way — what with all of his uncomfortable hemming and hawing — that Rev. Wright couldn’t help but be angered, and even more insulted.
SECONDLY: Rev. Wright clearly has a HUGE ego. He has great PRIDE. He also CRAVES attention. And he is a PERFORMER extraordinaire.
He is therefore incapable of toeing the line, and staying quiet while Barack Obama awkwardly, limply, and inarticulately repudiates him, and never definitively speaks his mind about his 20-year association with Wright.
He is so vain and self-aggrandizing that his own need to prove himself to the world-at-large outweighs ANY consideration of how he might harm Obama’s candidacy.
THIRDLY: I think that Rev. Wright realizes — and has probably realized for some time — that Barack Obama’s SOLE reason for relating to him and attending his church was for his own POLITICAL gain.
Rev. Wright sees that Obama used him.
Nobody likes to be used.
To Barack Obama, Rev. Wright was merely a tool. And now that he’s an embarrassment to Obama, Rev. Wright feels slighted and publicly humiliated.
People with big egos especially do not handle public humiliation well.
And a man with a huge ego and a big need for affirmation — and obsequious praise — detests being used more than most people.
THAT is why Rev. Wright expressly called Barack Obama a “politician.”
Wright’s use of the term “politician” was a “dig” at Obama. It was meant to demean Obama for the humiliation that Wright has suffered.
I wish the noted psychiatrist Charles Krauthammer, a Washington Post columnist as well as Fox News analyst, were around to check with. But I think some of this may be true.
Do any of the rest of you want to “shrink” the Rev. Wright?
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SusanUnPC if your “diagnosis” is correct, Wright just destroyed his protege and there is no conspiracy to bail out Obama with this media blitz.
on the other hand, he could become so commonplace, and ubiquitous, the initial shock wears off.
If all the crap around Obama had occurred when he first started campaigning, he would have been history.
It seems like everything has trickled out gradually, and people are numbed to Rezko, Wright, lying to the media, trashing his voters in SFO, etc.
Every time we change states it’s as if all the other stuff is washed away and we start anew, and a fresh, blemish-free Obama just hatched.
I disagree, there is a slimy residue left on Obama and a cumulative effect. Will it be enough to topple Obama in time for Hillary? I don’t know. Will it be a huge problem against McCain, I think very much so and I don’t see how Obama can overcome the cumulative effect and what the Republicans will do with it. Hillary is kind to Obama compared to what they will dish out.
First of all I love your screenname Reverend Wrong. Second, I agree with you. Rev. Wright can do no good for Obama. Some liberals might become numbed to Wright and Ayers (mainly his supporters), but most Americans are disgusted by Wright. Once the GOP and the 527s begins their smear campaign it will destroy him. I also do not know if it will be enough for Hillary to take the nomination but Wright’s presence must certainly bring ire to the superdelegates who are still freaking out from Obama’s huge loss in PA.
SusanUnPC, I think most of your diagnosis is correct. Obama’s campaign is not sending Rev. Wright out to all of these events. They would prefer if he went away for good. This is what makes Wright want to come out even more. He is angry that Obama is ashamed of him. He was Obama’s “father figure” for nearly twenty years and now Obama throws him under the bus along with grandma.
Wright also believes that there is nothing wrong with his sermons and that he has been misrepresented in the media. He wants to redeem himself in the eyes of the public. I don’t blame him. Who wants to be demonized and called a racist and a crazy person. Wright sees things differently from most Americans and he wants to explain himself so that people won’t get the idea that he or his congregation are evil people.
Obama might have found someone who is more proud and craves attention and the spotlight more than he does. Like father like son
Thank you and thank you.
Those who live by the sword of demonizing Jews, Italians, white people, etc. should not be surprised when their reputation dies by that same sword.
I love this! It is so absolutely true and it took me until I turned 50 to fully understand.
Having a bit of history under your belt laced with a dribble of misery and struggle (for ME) makes things inherently clear!
I really wish the 20 & even 30 somethings could have this “sense” at an earlier age! (some do obviously but not enough)
jmo
It is our obligation as elders to try and help the younger people to understand and at the same time make sure their lessons don’t derail our democracy.
The way I see it, people have made their choice known overwhelmingly in all the big states and most of the other primaries — Clinton. Obama has won all the easier states he could (majority by gaming). With Wright he could not have won VA, WI, perhaps MD too and others. Obama with those easy wins is being propped up by the counter force and more powerful force (than the real people) which is the media, the Internet, party elders, and money. It is as if the majority of the people see the negatives and don’t want him but these other (anti-Clinton) people are propping him up and unfortunately they are more visible and vocal than people like you and I.
I did not watch Wright but my husband did and he is a straight shooter. According to him, Wright just by being who he is damages Obama — he is extreme and extreme left-wing. Bill Moyers show was a preaching to the choir show — it would not reach mainstream that Obama needs to reach to build a majority. This pastor is a Chomsky wannabe but a very poor (and even distorted) imitation.
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I agree with many of the comments made here. If the relationship between Obama and Wright was in the media when the campaign was initiated, Obama would be toast by now. But the media knew all of this back then and kept white-washing Obama while draging Hillary through the mud. Now Wright has pulled all of us into the mud. I am so ashame of both Obama and Wright. They have used eachother for their own political or popular gains, and both have been used by the media for financial gain. The nation needs a leader who is willing to put the people first, and a media who represents the unbias truth. It may be too late for the superdelegates to change thier opinions about who the nominee should be now that most of them have decided to support Obama. So I think all democrates need to get ready to lose in (again!) in the fall. But the party needs to realize that their failures are their own doing. They can’t blame the Republicans for taking advantage of their weaknesses.
I saw a very angry tired man, surprised at the amount of vitriol directed his way.
And this “tour” is doing nothing to rehab his image.
The whole “haters” thing works both ways, you put out hate, you get a lot back.
Yet the haters always seemed so surprised.
For an alleged “spiritual advisor” he sure does not get the basic principle of karma or what goes around comes around.
Righteousness, at times, is not aware of Karma.
I heard the man attempt an explanation at the lies, he perceives as American history. But coming from a rev. he is not focused on our (gender and racial neutral) better angels.
His term for it was “miss learning” ?
Alluding to the brainwashing of our children via public education. Boohoo! I am just a lowly Reverend.
His comment regarding Obama being a pol and he a rev, had an inferred meaning in that they come from the same place, believe the same things, but one speaks in “parcel tongue” and Obama some form of political incantation.
You’re BLOWING my MIND PEOPLE!!
This blog is phenomenal! (btw)
Air America just adores Wright; tune in any time of day and you’ll eventually hear the host tell you that he/she “basically agrees” with “pretty much everything” Wright has said in his sermons. You’ll also hear that if you are offended by Wright, it’s because YOU have a problem. Air America thinks that Wright is performing some important service by “forcing” us to “confront our own racism,” etc.
And every time Air America Radio launches a defense of this moron, Obama HQ has to groan a bit. Because the guys in charge over there HAVE to know this does Obama no good. Obama wishes Wright would just fall off the face of the Earth, and Wright realizes this now, and is beginning to let his resentment show.
I highly doubt that Air America feels similarly indebted to Valerie Solanas.
This might explain their overwhelming popularity?
I read the California NAACP president endorsed Hillary. I also read their national chairman endorsed her. If the NAACP is letting Wright speak, what’s up with that? I have no idea what to make of this.
if tonight’s CNN is an indicator, pro Obama blacks are trying to make a case that Obama is a victim of racism. This is exactly what I was expecting from him in a tight primary like this. Good old fashioned Chicago politics.
That tactic has grown old and will backfire and will solidify even further Hillary’s base in my opinion. You can only cry wolf so much. I don’t think people are listening to the racism whining much these days.
…and frankly I think Americans are sick of seeing and hearing Wright’s insulting bullcrap.
People who are not racists (including a majority of, but not all (sigh) white people) are more than a little tired of being told that they are racists. Remember “The Little Boy Who Cried ‘Wolf!’”?
It’s for N.Carolina. It worked in S.C. already. As soon as that primary is over they’ll probably drop it. With every new state he changes his personna, his talking points.
He’s a chameleon. Remember Woody Allen’s Zelig?
And the SDs are aware of this and if he wins NC it will be a paper tiger win.
But they might lose Indiana while they’re at it. Losing IN would be a huge loss for Obama. It would mean the only big state he won was his own. And the GOP in NC is playing an ad against Obama using the Wright video. It’s a dangerous game and, God-willing, it backfires big time.
Zoz….He’s gonna lose IN…it’ll swing Ohio which give her a mid-west sweep of real estate….He’s gonna have to fight for NC. now that the local machine has him in their sites…His chances are better there….
Well, this is one that they can’t blame Hillary for. This is something that Obama will have to clean up by himself. Is he strong enough to defend his own reputation and the reputation of the people who voted for him? If not, will he be strong enough to defend our country or stand up for the poor, the old, the wounded soldiers, the women and children in the U.S. or in the world who are suffering from a lack of compassionate leadership? Think about it.
I tried to post something before but the links prevented it from being posted. I will try again without the links, so please excuse me for not providing them. I think its possible in his heart Obama feels he is not black so I don’t understand the racism claims. This is what I posted and might back up somewhat what I am thinking right now:
“When political expediency trumps human decency, you know you don’t have a president or leader. The above information is powerful proof Obama’s character is severely lacking.”
Since all politicians tend to do what is politically expedient this is not a problem for me. What is a problem is that Obama is trying to run as a candidate who has transcended race, all the while playing the race card covertly and blaming the Clintons. The AA community thinks they are being politically shrewd by accepting this behavior as to not compromise his candidacy. They are in fact in league with the devil on this and have made themselves irrelevant.
In the case of the MLK Anniversary especially, there was no reason for him not to attend. It was not a political event like the SOBU, a conference where people talk directly to black issues. Although I don’t give him a pass on not attending the Smiley event, I can understand the reeason why he opted out. But the MLK celebration where even McCain attended, just made him look bad and it called attention to the race question even more. He was exposed at political maneuvering. That’s the same ol’ politics as usual.
Maybe I should have added an adjective somewhere. Yes I understand they all do this. But the events were very important events and Obama should have just been there, period.
And I understood him not being at the events was to cater to his non-black support.
I find no excuse on a human level to justify Obama’s behavior. He is weak man and not presidential at all based on these actions.
None of this has dampened the African American vote for him, though. It doesn’t matter that he didn’t show for these events. It seems the mindset is that he doesn’t have to - he’s the black candidate, the brother. The ones coming to pay homage are the whites, trying to pander to the black constituency to get their votes.
I agree, it is a sad thing not to know whether you are black or white or neither in the U. S. Obama must be very confused by now. He wants and use the money from the rich, to try to get the support of the poor, and yes, he has taken the Black Voters for granted. That’s a mistake, because there are a lot of minority voters that believe that we have done more to hinder our own growth by trying to find someone else to take the responsibility. I don’t want to be taken for granted.
blobert, the problem with that is it only gets the Choir to agree. White America is growing wearing of this horsecrap. They have been chided, insulted, harrassed, and overlooked- and they will push back in November. It’s going to be bloody and embarrassing because white people are just sick and tired of the race card every five minutes. The thought process is, how much worse are these people going to get if Obama is president. His fate is sealed. He will NEVER be president, and he has NOBODY to blame but himself and his nasty, arrogant surrogates.
uppity, i agree. i think people have heard cries of racism too many times in this campaign. so, except for the true believers, they just tune out the racism claim. the true believers, of course, call anyone who doesn’t buy into saint obama bigoted, redneck, ignorant, uneducated, stupid, low class, white trash, etc.
i also think that there will be a more lasting effect. if someone is discriminated against in some way and speaks up, the claim will not be evaluated objectively, because obama’s blatant misuse of the subject will have turned everyone off.
Yes, and ironically, that book that Obama mentioned a few times, “What’s the Matter with Kansas?” is about exactly this, which is about poor whites voting against their economic interest and voting Repub, not because they are bitter, but because of backlash. (Reagan Dems are one example.) Now with so many people suffering economically and in other ways, they don’t want a president who favors a whole other group of people.
A dream-come-true for Repubs. Another reason media is pushing him so much.
quite likely you’re right. but i’m so incredibly disgusted by obama and his hitler youth supporters that i don’t care and will wholeheartedly vote repub if obama is nominated. whether getting obama nominated was or was not a rovian plot, aided by the msm, to get rid of hillary, it will still work for me. obama has greatly overplayed his hand and has gone from just undeserving to unthinkable.
And just think- if Obama had been willing to win SC by, say, ten percentage points by NOT playing the race card, he might not find himself in the position he is locked into today. But he bet everything on the theory that A) a landslide in SC would knock Hillary out of the race and/or B) the media would ignore his use of race, and in fact blame Bill and Hillary for injecting race, and everything would go “back to normal” when the primary was over.
Didn’t happen. So, now you are the Black Candidate, Barack. How’s that working out for you?
I’d be very curious to see how many people other than his supporters watched Moyers. I had no interest any more than I would listen to a holocaust denier. The specious logic that the snippets do not do him justice are not an apology for the words themselves. Barack Obama seems to surround himself with people of the same calibre as George Bush — unrepetent “I am right” types who rub most Americans the wrong way.
“if tonight’s CNN is an indicator, pro Obama blacks are trying to make a case that Obama is a victim of racism. This is exactly what I was expecting from him in a tight primary like this. Good old fashioned Chicago politics.”
Not just Chicago. It happens any place a black candidate is attacked. Look at the last New Orleans mayoral election down here. A large portion of the black population has not gotten sophisticated enough to realize that one of their own race can con them as well as a white candidate.
It probably was the same way with all other minorities, e.g. Irish and Italians, who started feeling their political muscle. The Irish elected the elder Richard Daley and I imagine any attacks on him were portrayed as anti-Irish to his constituency.
Excellent points you make!
This is just a bad move. If I supported Obama, I would not try to explain anything. I understand that most blacks can’t see anything wrong with Wright. I personally do see how extreme Wright is since I am not religious and never wanted to attend churches like this when I was invited. This is no longer the 1960s. Most whites don’t understand the need to be that angry and full of hate in 2008. Wright really doesn’t have an excuse. I understand where he is coming from and I do not believe he is a bad person. But his sermons went too far…G-d D*mn America, Natalee Holloway was a slut who deserved to be murdered (paraphrasing), and we deserved 9/11? It’s just inappropriate, especially in a house of worship.
After 9/11 I was in college and overheard two or three black guys in my school’s Union/restaurant hangout that we deserved 9/11 and that they didn’t care about the people who died. It was very, very heartless. I understand that many people got tired of the months and months of reporting but these guys were saying this stuff only days after the attacks. I was shocked when I heard what these guys were saying and this was in a fast food hangout. Maybe some minorities feel this way because they were wronged but say it at home, not in CHURCH. How can a Reverend say these things in a church a week after 9/11 and have all of these people cheer him on? Most Americans - especially non-blacks - will never understand this. And they won’t understand it from a man who is running for president. A man who claimed to be above race and politics as usual in America.
This will destroy Obama’s career. I’m almost sure of that. He can win the nomination because of disproportionate delegates awarded in red state caucuses. But he will not win the general election.
It’s very sad to see the Democratic Party destroy itself with this candidate who is very damaged and flawed. The Republicans will paint the ENTIRE PARTY as a bunch of left wing extremists who hate America.
I dislike Obama for many reasons but even I would hate to watch this happen to him and the party in the general election. This will be worse than what we saw in 2004.
“After 9/11 I was in college and overheard two or three black guys in my school’s Union/restaurant hangout that we deserved 9/11 and that they didn’t care about the people who died. It was very, very heartless….” ” Maybe some minorities feel this way because they were wronged but say it at home, not in CHURCH.”
I don’t feel this way. And I am appalled by these remarks as well as Rev Wright’s. Not just white people died in the towers. Blacks, latinos, Asians, and yes whites. With the exception of the foreign nationals and maybe an illegal immigrant or two, those people were all American citizens and every last one of them a human being. There were children on the airplanes, a black pilot, a black stewardess, young black grade schooler on a field trip. I single them out to say that it is a contradiction to claim to be so pro black yet at the same time be so heartless about fellow blacks who have also died in a national tragedy.
And this is not the purpose of church. Church is supposed to be about communion with God within a community of people. This kind of rhetoric belongs on the street corner, on a soap box, in a barber shop, in your home if that’s how you feel.
But wait, in AA neighborhoods, when there’s a fire, do AAs say fuck the white fireman risking his life to save them? What’s to celebrate about all those firemen who died in their dedication to do their job on 9/11? There seems to be a disconnect in the mindset of too many AAs who are mindlessly cavalier in their attitude about America and their citizenship. And for black students to say something like this proves that disconnect. From the unemployed guys standing on street corners I can understand this anger, I even accept it. But black college students who in all likelihood will get their degree and abandon the urban poor areas and its people in the same way so many middle class blacks have done. And still have the audacity to look down on America.
All Rev. Wright proves is that the leadership from the black pulpit is sorely lacking in wisdom and character. I thought ministers were supposed to serve as a conduit to God and relieve us from our mortal wounds, not wallow in them. I don’t think having compassion is mutally exclusive from having a critical point of view about your country. Who on earth is making up the rules these days? And where are the wise ones to help us poor human beings reconcile the two?
But here’s the bottom line for this election: what would make any black American believe that a white American is going to support the candidacy of a person who does not have a healthy pride of this nation? And how does this give a would-be president leverage in international affairs and foreign policy?
Sorry but there’s no justification for this if you are playing in the national arena. The reaction would be the same if a latino candidate was trying to do the same thing.
I couldn’t agree with you more. The Democratic Party need to wake up and clear up this mess now! It is apparent that the leading candidate can’t do it alone.
NAACP does not want to alienate the AA preachers….The good pastor Wright is prominant amongst this group…Simple internal politics…
I think the obama camp is doing damage control b/c the GOP is rampaging across America using Wright videos. SD must be getting nervous b/c their jobs could be in jeopardy. my 2cents.
if the sd’s are so concerned, they could do the right thing and say why publicly. i think doing so could save their jobs.
giving into the blackmail attempts will cost them their jobs. and well it should - if they are so cowardly, they should not be in political office pretending to serve the country.
Susan, I agree with your assessment 100% and even sympathize with Rev. Wright from a personal/friendship point of view (not with his political views). Here is a man (Wright) that took Obama under his wing and played kingmaker, mentor, and adviser only to be stabbed in the back by Obama. How could Wright be anything other than angry at Obama for that? Obama is the ultimate traitor and I don’t blame Wright for being angry or wanting to burn him. He was used in the worst kind of way and he knows it.
For all of his “I understands” about being disinvited to events, removed from campaign committees, “retiring” from the church, etc., here is a man who gave his life to the theology that Barack has embraced only to get a step up. It has to hurt him on a level that we can’t fully appreciate. Moral of this story: being related to Barack Obama (see: grandmother and “uncles”) is not good for your emotional health.
The good reverend just “retired” and hasn’t been getting the attention he is used to.
And he believes that everything he said was true and correct.
He has the right to remain silent, but not the ability.
Thanks Susan.
Mat 7:15
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16
By their fruits ye shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 7:17
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but the corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19
Wow. Those are great quotes. You make me wish I’d read the Bible. (I’m laughing — I’m kind of a heathen these days, but was force-fed religion, of the Presbyterian sort, growing up. it’s funny though — i remember so little of those sermons, I think mostly because I was bored stiff as a little kid, and fidgeted through every service.)
Truth is truth. I can’t see living my life taking any one book literally but if there are kernels of truth in a book they are ok by me to use. I’m not being critical of you or Taters. And not like you need my approval to post something. LOL
Good post….The problem with Wright is that his theology and his sermons have become the bane of not just BABY-O…But to AA churches and preachers in the sense that your average cracker in America is scratchin their heads and goin ” HE SAID WHAT? ” and is wonderin what is goin on in the AA churches. Even the Baptists would’nt have this guy and well…Baptists have never been shy about their opinions ( chuckle )…They would’nt have him because Black Liberation Theology is antithetical to denominational doctrinal authority…..Shapin up to be a good day for Clinton…
It’s clear (to us anyways) that Obama joined the church for political reasons.
It we figured that out - I got to be pretty clear to Wright.
I didn’t agree with most of what Wright said but damn it I will defend his right to say and think whatever he wants.
What’s offensive is how he and his church was used by Obama. Chickens coming home to roast, I guess.
Everything Obama does is for political reasone … including (or perhaps especially) that “denunciation” of Wright.
Again I say that Reverend Wright taught Obama everything he knows. Spiritual mentor and all…
My Impression is that This Gives Jeremiah Wright an Opportunity to get out of His Locale Church and Achieve a NATIONAL PLATFORM…via MSM Attention so that He can reach a National and Global Audience with His Black Liberation Theology..I just saw a Soundbite where Wright commented about Farrakahn and NOI..and promoted everything Farrakahn has done as good..from the Prisons to the Streets….saying that He, Wright, is the Christian Version of Farrakahn.. I consider them both as Leaders of the Black Liberation Theology..which aappears to be Radical, Racist..and Militant..
My Question is, wiith all this Exposure to this Radical Doctrine..and a National Platform..Is this all Coincidence or Planned..??
What are the Consequences going to Be..??
Will these Issues be resolved Peacefully…or is someone trying to start a Ji Had here in American ..??
I Hope someone has a Clear head in all this Confuswion…
Patrick, that’s a very good point. Wright could turn this whole mess into a “cash cow” for him. ‘course he already has access to a $10 million line of credit, and a brand-new mansion paid for by the church (even the property taxes are paid by the church). But he may want more, more, more.
Susan Wrights’ church has recently put up a defending the faith blog featuring videos on THE CIA CONSPIRACY TO DESTROYBLACKS USING US GOVT. ISSUE CRACK….as well as The Good Pastors’ books and tapes….
Patrick you are astute sir….This is nothing more than a publicity tour for the products on that site…Praise the Lordand Pass the Basket…..Access to site through ABC news…
Patrick Henry you make excellent observations and your questions are appropriate.
I find it good in America that Wright is free to promote his views, as disgusting as they are. As you imply, maybe we can learn something from all of this.
I think the Obamambots have overplayed calling us racists for talking about these issues and that turns out great since just maybe we can focus on working towards true equality, social justice, jobs, affordable readily available health care for one and all, etc. Kind of sounds like Hillary’s wise platform, doesn’t it?
Wow.
I agree about Wright wanting a national platform. He’s not in the spotlight anymore because he has supposedly “retired” from TUCC and just can’t stand NOT being the center of attention. So of course he’s going to jump at any chance he can to get his message out, to hell with what that does to Obama’s campaign.
In Wright’s view, if BO is not nominated, well that’s because of despicable white America, the people he’s hated his whole life. So Obama getting kicked to the curb, just fuels Wright’s warped outlook on the world and suits his agenda to a T.
The only part that I would disagree with is that the national attention Wright receives on this “media tour” just helps the republicans even more. Wright, as someone else said, is radioactive. He can’t help but spurt out his hate-filled diatribes which only adds credence to charges made by the republicans. I don’t think his media interviews will help Obama in the least.
Wright is a product of the late 60s crash and burn, and like all people who never moved their mentality into complete adulthood, he is a radical. He would be and probably is perfectly comfortable with the RECREATE68 crowd that plans to descend upon Denver.
I several people like him. They long for the days of chaos. Their lives never left chaos mode. These are guys who are bald on top of their heads but they still have scraggley dirty hair hanging down from the backs of their heads. These are women who are pushing 60 and still wear their hair down their backs in spite of how silly they look. They loved the excitement and angsty revolts, and it has affected the rest of their lives. In other words, these are time warp people. I’m serious here. Unfortunately, the misconception they portray that this was a romantic time is doing a lot of damage. They are the heroes of bored kids with Ipods, and because of that, they are dangerous.
I would bet that if somebody researched Reverend Wright, we would find him in the late sixties and early seventies in moccasins and bell bottoms with the flag sewn on the ass, right in the middle of the crowds of violent looters and burners. For some, it stays in their blood. We look at him today as an harmless older guy and forget what shaped his filthy mouth of today.
darn, uppity, i’m pushing 60 and have hair hanging down my back! and i wore bell bottoms and moccasins and silver jewelry that jangled….
thank heavens the resemblance is only superficial in my case. i actually did grow out of it. (but i think maybe i need a haircut - the last thing i want is EVER to be mistaken for an obamaloon).
ROFL….You 2 are righteous….and funny….
Okay, I’ll play. Analyzing Mr. Wrong…
Otay…Loves attention. Miserable human being inside
(quite obviously outside as well). Can not feel pleasure except as a superficial thing. Sort of has that in common with the effervescent Michelle.
Likes money, attention, power. Needs approval, really bad. Maybe that’s why he’s doing the media circus.. he needs approval, and as he’s not really getting it (although maybe he is….I think it’s a fun game to analyze him, but I can’t bring myself to watch him anymore). Anyway, if that’s the case then we could be seeing a lot of the charming guy as he tries to get the necessary approval to retire with the dignity and respect he so richly deserves.
Agree…Much easier to read than hear….And there is plenty to read on both LIBERATION THEOLOGY and this variant BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY….
It’s important to know what’s out there…This was the driving force behind many of those revolutions that swept Latin America 1970′-1980’s….
….Contra anyone ?…..I’m just sayin’…..
The Obamanation will tell us that Rev. Wright was calm, thoughtful and peaceful - not the raving lunatic that his videos show.
But this was a “performance” - a man dressed up in a button-down suit - delivering an act.
This is not the Rev. Wright that his parishioners saw week after week after week after year after year after year.
Expect all sorts of positive spin this week-end. Hopefully the (unwashed) millions (us HRC supporters) will not be fooled.
And yes, Susan, Rev. Wright is pissed at BO….hey, on that point, we can agree!
Obamanation or Abomination?
I meant to add this link to the piece. It’s quite a story — it is Rev. Wright’s biography. He did not suffer much growing up. He had a very privileged upbringing, and went to the BEST schools, thanks in part to his intellectual abilities. Like Obama, he got the best this country can offer.
This does not surprise me. Most of the angsty pains in the ass in the late sixties had parents of means and had the luxury of time to wreak havoc. This is just another one of those guys who never experienced the pains of poverty and fancies himself a savior of the poor, whilst building his 2 million dollar home. It all fits.
If Wright can’t blame Cracker…..What does he have ?
crumbs?
That implies he is a snake oil salesman like his protege using divisive issues for money and his ego?
I think that all of us here applaud the efforts of a human being to improve the lot of those less fortunate. What Wright seems to do is foment such a negative American view. His ministries of reaching out to prisons and HIV/AIDS sufferers are no different than the huge Dallas Presbyterian congreation I attended — together with some really well heeled well recognized names like Perot — but if any of the members of the ministry used similar language, the Dallas County Sheriff would have been rolling up with a squad car.
Inciting hate and offering a hand out is not a hallmark of either religion or democracy as I have ever heard them explained.
Bee…. are you from my home town Dallas….Perhaps….
I believe that your assessment of Rev. Wright’s personality which drives his behavior is mostly accurate.
The show boat type ministers — the revival type evangelicals are of a similar type to Wright. I’ve seen his type all my life — I’m a survivor of an evangelical cult.
These guys are ego driven — and more than likely Rev. Wright felt he was giving Obama special attention by calling attention to Obama being in his congregation. In part Rev. Wright probably believes he “make” Obama and thus deserves respect.
Rev. Wright isn’t going to admit that we are responding to Wright’s racism — and his obscene language and vile hatred. Rev. Wright won’t take responsibility for his own behavior — he will need a scape goat to blame.
I believe that Rev. Wright and Obama have similar personality types and are both narcissists.
And to go futher — Obama’s personality is such that he needs a mentor — he isn’t creative and he isn’t empathetic. He used Rev. Wright as a mentor — that’s how he copied the Black church minister orator’s gig. He used Wright — and I do believe that Rev. Wright FEELS used.
Rev. Wright probably sees what we see — that Obama will NOT be Prez — and the only way Wright things he can restore his “good” name is to strike now while the iron is hot.
I had not thought of this though I did wonder about the timing. This explains it. If Obama does not become the nominee, nobody will care and he would have missed the bus to redeem himself.
strike now while the iron is hot
It is difficult to fathom how a guy with 40 years of public speaking, does not choose his words carefully.
His brand of “Christianity” does not suffer Judas well. Obama has been this person.
Obama was at the gas station parroting Sen Clinton, when talking about “redemption” and humping her energy plans. He speaks very poorly when he is at low volume.
Obama is a not a person with the ability for original thought. How many times has he plagiarized ideas or “writings”?
Wright is on a publiciy tour to sell his book and tapes for the cause….
true, true! I was just screaming at the tv yesterday when I heard him ADD
REDEMPTION to the end of his sentence (with a stupid smirk)
He is a total thief!
I agree, but I also have to think that he may be being paid some big bucks for some of these appearances. He is going to strike while the iron is hot. He will have no draw once the media allows this to go away. (We know he likes the good life from seeing his new estate.) He does not care about OB because OB threw him under the bus along with his “typical white grandmother.” Does anyone see a pattern with OB and those around him? The Clinton’s have always been very supportive of AA’s, but they have certainly not shown any loyalty to them in any great numbers. It appears that anyone in OB’s universe has this issue with loyalty
well, i have to have a dissenting voice in all this.
i find it very suspicious that the ‘REV’, has dicided to come out of the woodwork just before the N.C. primary…
nothing like bringing ‘RACE’, back into the mix just before election in an AA dominated state…
Obama needs it foremost in n. corolinians minds, and amazingly there comes Wright, looking all innocent…
but than again i could be wrong, wouldnt be the first time…
But really all that would serve to do is help Obama with the AA vote, which he already has. I don’t think it is going to help him at all with white N. Carolina. But I could be wrong too.
BABY-O is probably going to lose IN. They are hoping that a strong showing in NC will blunt her mid-west sweep..”.Damn…There are just too many crackers every time I turn around..” Barry to Axelrove…
I agree with you. This “race card” issue is to drum up the AA vote in North Carolina. Timing is too perfect. Guess I’m naive to a lot of this, but during the SC campaign, when The O kept talking to the crowds using ‘okey dokey’, I never got what he meant. Recently, my office mate who is a big O supporter and a woman of color, was explaining a conversation with someone using the term “He was doing an okey dokey on you”. When I asked what it meant, she read to me from the Urban Language dictionary that it means “to trick, to con”.
Foolish me learned that The O was telling the people of SC that the whites and specifically the Clintons were trying to trick or con them before the vote. He was talking in a code that this white woman had never heard. During my childhood growing up in NC I always thought ‘okey dokey’ meant ‘alrighty’. Silly me.
Clara….It’s gettin kinda scary ain’t it….In the future this campaign will be studied in POLI-SCI classes on campus because this single individual has managed to devide the nation in just about every concievable way….I believe the only way he can do this is because BARACK OBAMA is essentially a foreigner to our native soil….I mean he has not lived any of what any of us have lived Black or White….He is a truly alien breed….To me ARNOLD pump me up seems more native than BABY-O does…..I’m just sayin’….
I am hoping that the combination of Obama’s humiliating loss in Pennsylvania and the GOP’s ad attacking his association with Rev. Wright will work miracles in the Tar Heel State.
He had to come OUT because the RePugs in NC were due to start their slash and burn ad about HIM!
LOL
although I’ve not seen it run here (yet) and MOST of the people paying attention have long since voted (we’ve had early voting for 2 weeks)
I’m growing tired of the “pro-bono” bullshit surrounding Obama’s campaign. Where is the FEC?
First we had Dick Morris going to Kenya on a tourist visa to give Obama’s cousin, Odinga, one month free political advising “pro bono.”
Now.. we find out that Rev. Wright’s image has been sanitized for your protection by a TOP PR firm “pro bono.”
I absolutely and positively believe that Rev. Wright is out there for one reason and one reason alone, to clean up his image ONLY to diffuse his effect on Obama. Wright is retired, there is absolutely no reason for him to do this PR blitz, other than to clean things up for Obama with voters in the next primaries.
This is CLEARLY coordinated by Obama’s campaign — Axelrove, and should be treated as an “in kind” donation on behalf of Obama. Also, the FEC should be looking into the fact that you KNOW Morris was paid by Obama to go to Kenya to work on that bloody campaign of Odinga.
I have never seen a sleazier campaign in my life. What do I expect with the likes of Rezko & Co.? I only wish the media would start scratching beneath the surface of that scum layer on Obama’s campaign. There is a major dirt to be found….
the Cousin Odinga problem will surface.
Is this what you are referring to? I have not checked it out at all and I have no idea if any of it is true. Would be interested in what you know.
Seems like endless scandal surrounding Obama.
More on Odinga here:
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/obama-odinga50-50-split-demand-sounds-soooo-familiar/
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/lessons-to-be-learned-odinga-yields-in-kenya-positions-himself-for-next-election/
” Damn….I wish those crackers would quit diggin this shit up…”
Barry to Axelrod….chuckle…
The campaign does not care about violating anything where there is only a potential fine. They are willing to win at all costs short of going to jail from what I have observed.
Axelrove! Wonderful!!!!
Yeah, I decided “Axelrove” pretty much sums it up. Wonder if he has a pic of Karl over his bed?
If you are younger than age 30, then that statement’s understandable. If you’re over 45, you obviously haven’t been paying much attention to American politics. President Richard Nixon’s 1972 re-election campaign was far and away the dirtiest in my lifetime, and its criminality brought us the Watergate scandal.
Agree….. but we are not done yet Donald…..
Wright’s re-entry on the scene is so Obama can appear to be at odds with him before the Indiana primary. I believe this contrived media tour allows Obama the opportunity to restate his oppostion to Wright’s hateful words for the benefit of the white blue collar voters of Indiana. Obama needs to do this after the disasterous exit polling results in the Pa race. Wright has greatly hurt Obama with Blue Collar Whites,Women and Catholics and another primary that shows Obama’s weakness’s in these demographics will all but do him in.
If you are correct this is a very very risky plan. I predict it would totally backfire. Obama has yet to notice the real-time karma thing going on around him which is why he keeps stumbling.
You are right, Wrong (lol).
I have a sneaking suspicion that Wright could end up with a lucrative career out of this though, long after Obama disappears. That could be Obama’s ultimate punishment from Wright. his karma for using Wright, so to speak.
Could very well be.
Sad that karma does not get us cheap gas or better yet zero emission vehicles.
Just thought of something:
When I was younger and more idealistic, I thought there was justice because there just should be justice. But there is no justice unless we fight for it. The idealistic koolaid drinkers seem to think Obama will wave his magic wand and make the world a better place. And they also look the other way when his campaign engages in very nasty tactics. Sad! I wonder what karma the koolaid drinkers will face? I guess a crappy world, contrary to the land of oz the great wizard is promising them.
“Wright’s re-entry on the scene is so Obama can appear to be at odds with him before the Indiana primary. I believe this contrived media tour allows Obama the opportunity to restate his oppostion to Wright’s hateful words for the benefit of the white blue collar voters of Indiana.”
ABSOLUTELY!!!!
Oh, heavens. NOT ANOTHER SPEECH!!!!
noooooooooooo!!!!!! then we’d have to endure matthews and cooper and borger and maddow and olbermann and……….. etc., telling us how it was the most important speech since (his last speech) which was the most important speech since jfk or lincoln or mlk or ,,,,,,,,,,,
nooooooooooooooooo!!!! oh, the humanity, please noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
I beg to differ…..This is aimed at NC….He’s shootin hoops in Kokomo…I can’t wit for a photo of him in a race car…INDY 500 is comin up….
I agree
Maybe the Rev. wright is the new Kato Kaylin (sp?).
Here for his fifteen minutes of fame. Next we’ll be seeing him on whatever that show is called where the celebrities sit in cubbies stacked on top of each other and play tic-tac-toe.
hollywood squares?
On 360 tonight, pro Obama AA’s were “suggesting” that blacks would feel disenfranchised if the candidacy were given to HRC, and would not feel compelled to vote in the GE. In other words, leaders are blackmailing us by threatening to not support Hillary Clinton if she is the candidate.
That will backfire if so.
Well I guess they will just have to weight the stats and decide whether they can do better without millions of typical white women, the elderly, Catholics Jews, Italians and gays. Personally I think the totals are much larger than the AA community. There are only 70 million Catholics in America so what the hell, right? The AAs are threatening with a bigger gun than they have.
Forgot to add the Latinos.
a group with 12-13 percent of the population threatens groups that constitute more than half the population? strange math they use.
of course, the sd’s will buy into it anyway. they already have.
Also, are they not mostly in red states which generally go to the repubs? I am only asking this to see what their strategy in “blackmailing” is?
i think their strategy is to keep saying it and get people to believe it without thinking too much because they’ve heard it so many times. add that to the other strategy of repeating ad nauseum that the rest of us will come around. if they say it enough, they start to believe it. and they hope we will too.
History is such an inconvenient fact …
Gore … Kerry ….
I’m just trying to figure out how that line of thinking from the black leaders reflects Martin Luther King, Jr.’s dream of a “colorblind” nation?
The road runs both ways. I’m hearing these comments from black leaders telling us that we have to select Obama or else black voters will be angry. Flip that around and see how utterly wrong it is… colorblind is colorblind, no matter the color.
I just don’t know anymore. In my view, yes, the Rev. Wright calling Obama a “politician . . . (who) said what he had to say” undoes in one fell swoop an entire meme of the Obama campaign, that he transcends politics. It’s the last thing Obama wants to be labeled “a politician.” I think he’d rather be called elitist or out of touch. He can argue that better though I think the elitist tag is sticking.
I honestly don’t care what the Rev. Wright’s motivations are. This is not the first time that the Obama campaign has dissed him. He was unceremoniously dumped at the last minute at the campaign announcement in Springfield in Feb 2007. The press release originally cited “a scheduling conflict” but later it came out that he was “disinvited” at the order of David Alexrod.
I remember back at the beginning of the campaign that people were surprised that Alexrod didn’t sign up with John Edwards. Well Alexrod was quoted as saying that though he liked Edwards personally he didn’t think he had it in him “to close the deal” and that despite everything he, Alexrod, had accomplished in 2004, Edwards failed to seal the deal. Hmmm. I wonder what Alexrod is thinking now.
Certainly he won’t hold himself accountable if Obama fails to “seal the deal.” Alexrod is not a political operative. He is an advertising guru who happens to work with political candidates. I think that an important distinction. He markets a product, in this case the personna of Barack Obama but he failed to sell a political programme. Obama came off to many seasoned political observers as simply vacuous and not all there. That segment of the political class then started to pay attention to who Obama was as a person and the flaws soon became evident. Let’s face it I knew little about Obama before Iowa. In the debates, he struck he as simply naive. I supported Edwards because of the attention to poverty as a moral imperative. I was definitely anti-Clinton, I was an ABC voter, Anybody But Clinton. When I had to compare Clinton versus Obama, there is nothing to compare. Clinton has flaws but her strengths simply shine. She’s tireless, a policy wonk, a fighter, and she actually cares. There’s a lot about Washington that is broken but there is a lot that works too. I trust Clinton to make Washington work or fight until the bitter end. I have no idea what Obama means by change. Experience matters and matters more as I grow older (early 40s) as I’ll take McCain over Obama because it’s better the devil that I know than a trainwreck waiting to happen.
The whole Rev Wright is but one of Obama’s problems this weekend. His comments on guns in Chicago today contradict previous statements. He is again telling people that he doesn’t take money from oil companies (no one does) and yet in the pass month he had one bundler bring in $42,000. He has attacks to fend off from the NC GOP and 527s in NC. He won’t debate and that is going to look like he is running away. He want to focus on McCain but Hillary isn’t going away. Plus look at him now, his eyes are glazed and he looks tired and worn. He is being ground to a pulp. If he is not up to rigors of the campaign, he is hardly up for the rigors of the White House. Clinton looks in her element.
You noticed this too. He looks like he doesn’t know if it’s February or Tuesday right now, and Hillary is just tooting along. Amazing, really.
i haven’t actually looked at him in quite a while - i missed the debate and, other than debates, immediately change the channel when his face appears. i’m glad to hear he’s showing the wear - since so many obamabots are more into looks than substance. maybe they’ll realize he’s not all that cute.
Charles, that is one heck of a comment. It should be a post. I am impressed by your wide-ranging grasp of the entire primary and the shortcomings of Obama. Fascinating about Axelrod as well …
We used to mock that “hope” and “change” baloney here a lot. But, lately, there’s nothing left of it to MOCK. Nothing. it’s truly strange how the Axelrod creation has been erased from people’s consciousness — well probably except for the very young who don’t know better (yet).
Charles…Thank You..I agree with susan…You made good observations and expressed them well..
Charles; that’s a very thoughtful comment; I found myself agreeing with
much of your observations (modulo the ABC which I never was). You have
a very good point about Axelrod: he is an image maker; not a political operative and that became clear in MA after the first few months of Patrick’s administration and Patrick is more substantive than Obama !
Thank you for your comment.
“Rev. Wright feels slighted and publicly humiliated.
People with big egos especially do not handle public humiliation well.”
I completely agree. Obama and Wright used each other and now Wright has been thrown under the bus. An enormous ego like his can’t let that go.
You’d think he’d be willing to keep his mouth shut in order to have the first black president but I guess saving his own reputation is more important. shrug.
Bud… my question is why does’nt he feel bad about settin his church up for the IRS because he used his pupit as a political propaganda tool….
BLOBERT,
SO THEY USE THEIR FAVORITE TOOL, BLACKMAIL, AGAIN…
they have used it like payola this whole primary, threatening other aa’s who were pro hillary, and using it with new and impressionable dems in government…
ITS PRETTY NASTY, AND MAKES ME HAVE REALLY BAD FEELINGS I’VE NEVER HAD BEFORE…
BUT MORE IMPORTANT, IT MAKES ME WANT TO FIND A WAY TO ‘PLAY THEM’ LIKE THEY’VE PLAYED US…
I was REALLY disappointed in Moyers tonight. Complete softball interview. He practically held his hand. He accepted all of Wright’s rationalizations and explanations and did not confront him with most of the crude and inflammatory language from his publicized sermons (infecting AA’s with AIDS, Bill’s ‘riding dirty,’ etc.), or confront him regarding his new $10 million home. It was all very civil and framed Wright as a “victim.”
Moyers: “What blues are you singing?”
Wright: “Why you treat me so bad?”
Because you asked for it, that’s why.
I think the people in Indiana that don’t drink koolaid have already formed an opinion about Wright. He is shit in their minds and sugarcoating him won’t change a thing.
Moyers will be criticized by many, just as you have just done.
Moyers is a fool. He looked like a silly weenie in this interview.
In that interview weenieness lies the truth.
Moyers worked for Carter. A small favor to Carter.
It will have the opposite effect because they can’t erase the DVD’s he was selling. No matter what they do, the simple response is to play them.
Indiana. will go the way of Ohio….I agree with you…Lived there and they don’t like chicago politics….
Until last evening, the Pew polling indicated 59 percent of Americans were familiar with Reverend Wright … I wonder if that number moves. PBS is not the normal purview of the people who needed to be “educated” about what a great guy the marine Wright is … just my opinion …
Twas designed to keep the LIBERAL CRACKERS in the fold…
Fallaces sunt rerum species….Bout sums it up….
Its people like Moyers who give credit to the right’s assertions that liberals are morally bankrupt and can’t tell good from bad.
That said, I used to like Moyers but after this whitewash for the reverend he can go to hell.
The man clearly has no journalistic integrity or at least no more than Judith Miller to roll-over for a unrepentant racist and conspiracy nut who cares no more for his congregation than the toilet paper he uses to wipe his ass.
ditto. another media outlet to cross off the list.
Oh please, tell me he DIDN’T really ask that? OMG… why not ask him what his favorite flower is? Or what super power he’d like to have?
Wright’s media tour is strange - right before crucial primaries, one of which is in a state w/ a significant AA population. Also strage was Clyburn’s comments re Bill Clinton ( I really have no idea what he was getting at). Of course, a race question was asked of Bill the day of the Penn primary.
I doubt any of this is coincidence. I think the Obama people are saying to SDs, don’t piss off the AA vote, but admittedly, I don’t think Wright played his part correctly.
Time is Obama’s worst enemy. They’ve overplayed the fear card and it has lost its effect. What the SDs are increasingly aware of Obama is suicidal for the Democratic party. This is why Bill and Hillary look so positive lately in my opinion. Hillary is winning the hearts and minds and that’s how you win a war.
Interesting transcript — Rev. Wright claims he’s not racist — he is a liar. He is a racist. That is just a fact.
There are whites who dislike everything about the black culture — and there are blacks who hate whites. It doesn’t matter who you are — if you are white — they hate you. And some people hate Asians — and the white evangelicals will preach sermons about the Vietnamese fishers who have taken over the shrimp market. My mom came to visit one time — and started off on a Vietnamese shrimp hijack line of crap. This was the first time ever I’d heard her deliver a racist rant. “Where the hell did you hear that b.s.” — then she told me about the visiting evangelical minister - blah blah blah.
That was the last time she visited me — I cut off contact with my own mom. I can’t abide racists — and even old folk can learn to be racists.
Rev. Wright is a racist.
Obama is a racist.
Hillary is a liar too, she said that Barry could beat McCain in the GE. Fat freaking chance.
that he could win is one lie that i’m sooooooooooo glad is a lie.
So Hillary tols a “white lie” ? Cute.
Hillary was polite…..That’s what that was about….Nuff said…
was BOBO lying when he said “you’re nice enough?”
Yeah…..I wanted to shove my foot through the TV at that one….He looked just like my smug loser little brother….
Yep. Rev. Wright is a total racist. There is no amount of expensive (yet free) PR that will erase it.
I saw the man on tape more than one refer to white people as “the enemy”, and attack “europeans” and “romans”, and call Italians “garlic noses”
He’s a bigot. Dress him up in expensive suits, put him in his 10,000 sq ft mansion, and he’s still a nasty old bigot.
Though I’d never thought I’d see the day I’d agree with Hannity on something, I had to applaud when he asked Wright if it would be okay for a preacher to refer to blacks as “the enemy” in church?
And Keith Olbermann has the fucking gall to equate Hillary with David Duke!
olbermann’s such a pig. i know karma catches up with people. sometimes it’s too slow.
Agree with you rain….Wright is a racist and you coulod probably add a whole list of other isms he is as well…BABY-O has a problem because he defends this man and his theology. BABY-O IS WELL…RACIST ENOUGH…
Paul Silver / The Moderate Voice:
COUGH.
(And i just heard Eleanor Clift, on McLaughlin’s show, say that Wright is a “soft-spoken, educated man … decorated Marine who fought in Vietnam.”)
Yeah that will go over well in Altoona.
His words are burnt into the memory banks of millions of Americans. Captured for posterity. There isn’t anything he can say or do now that will improve public opinion of him with anyone except those who already agree with his rants.
my handle on newsweek is “bad journalism.” i chose the name specifically after reading one of clift’s articles.
Eleanor Clift never comes up for air….Her mouth has got to be numb by now….( sigh )
Eleanor has lost sight of her sanity.
Do you wonder how many former Viet Nam veterans just cringe being lumped in a sentence with Reverend Wright? It’s like saying my exhusband has a mustache like Hitler …
LOL….agree with you Bee….And it’s sad really….Not like those boys have’nt been through enough….
Oh and by the way….Bee….Hitler copied Chaplin…But Chaplin made it work…..
Having just finished watching Rev Wright, I have to say that what his talk with Moyers did for me. was to make me dislike Obama even more. There is no doubt that Moyers gave this man the opportunity to
show a different side of himself. but I keep thinking if this is the real Wright, why did Obama
not stand up for him. I think Wright answered that question when he said that Obama had to do what politicians do.
Obama is not the “one we are waiting for”. Tonight
we can see that Obama is just a politician who will say what he has to say to get elected……and he is not very loyal to the people who helped him get where he is. I still have problems with how Wright
preaches because it seems to me that it creates more division between the races but I felt it is more a perspective on his life experience than outright malice.
His preaching points are part of the Liberation Theology.
One thing with this little interview that he achieved was to increase his following among angsty AAs. He may be left standing long aftr Obama goes under. karma. Gotta love it.
I find it to be a grave mis-calculation….The target audience PBS is LIBERAL CRACKER….This is an attempt to keep those crackers in the fold…..Unfortunately many of those same crackers are highly edumicated….They can read history and theology…..And many of them are more moderate then Axelrove thinks…..I think it will backfire….Lots o stuff for the academics to argue bout on the net and in the class room….Hmmm…….
It’s NOT the real Rev. Wright. He has engaged the services of a very very high powered PR firm that specializes in damage control. He is playing a role… this was done for Obama’s benefit, to make Rev. Wright into a sympathetic old fellow, so that the whites in Indiana will forget that he’s a racist, sexist, crude man, who has abused his position by campaigning for Obama from the pulpit.
The ugly things he said from the altar are who he really is. Do not be fooled.. he’s been coached and is on his press tour. Apparently it worked, if people think he’s some kindly old guy.
Maybe everyone needs to watch those tapes again. I man that screams “God Damn America” and ridicules the deaths of the 9/11 victims, and accuses Natalee Holloway of “a drunken white girl that gave it up on the beach”, and simulated sex from the pulpit while trashing Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton, is NOT a nice person.
Just catching up with all the posts.
First thought is that showing the long version of his 911 sermon didn’t make it sound any less anti-American. He was still blaming America using some sort of chickens coming home to roost karma connection.
He was very pedantic, which will fly with the elitist but will make no sense to the working class–telling us that we think incorrectly, that we’ve been manipulated into believing things. People aren’t going to cotton up to that very well.
At first I felt annoyed at Moyers but as the interview went on, I thought he did a good job of not putting Wright on the defensive which left Wright to expose his prejudice.
Wright is stuck in the 70s victim mentality. Shelby Steel called it in his interview with Moyers a while back.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01112008/profile2.html
Weight would be what Steel called a challenger and Obama once again in this situation is a bargainer.
Obama knew to hold on to his support he had to
throw the pastor under the bus and not challenge
what people were saying about Wright.
Weight would be what Steel called a challenger and Obama once again in this situation is a bargainer.
Obama knew to hold on to his support he had to
throw the pastor under the bus and not challenge
what people were saying about Wright.
Let us also see the game there are playing. Remenber what happened in South Carolina.
Rep. James Clyburn came out swinging, asking President Clinton to be careful, and to chill. He takes about how loaded the racial remarks of President was. He talks about code: now Rep. James Clyburn is at it again, he is claiming that President Clinton is making sure that Obama does not win, haa, Sen. Hillary Clinton running to win. So whatever it takes. Rep. James Clyburn is the one playing the race card. I hope and looking forward when our James will ask him(Rep. James Clyburn ) to shut up. For the Rev. Wright, let him destroy himself. As for Obama using the Rev. as a tool. Your are right on!!
I hope the African-Americans will take time think.
Clyburn is beating that dead horse again? Figures.
Clyburn….FOOL…
He did himself no favors by defending the NOI and Louis Farrakhan.
I don’t think this interview will do much to change people’s beliefs. The kool aid drinkers will swoon, the media will make sound bites to portray their bias du jour, and Obama will bamboozle and hoodwink in order to win the votes of working people. For the most part, the AA votes are gimmes anyway.
I kept thinking of the nasty things he said about Bill and Hillary in those videos. Moyers didn’t ask him to explain that.
He’s a hypocrite, just like his “nephew.”
You should take that comment to PBS, Moyers usually has a space for comments on the evenings show.
The point about his Clinton comments is valid and I had forgotten that until you reminded us.
Thanks Karen, I did post my question about Wright insulting Hillary and Bill.
The comments are very interesting. Most of the ones I read are not buying a squeaky clean version of Wright.
Here’s the link, if anyone’s interested.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2008/04/the_controversy_over_wright_1.html
i read about 30 or 40 before i felt an urge to throw up - they were overwhelmingly praising moyers and wright in ridiculously glowing terms. perhaps the obamabots are out in force? i hope that’s it rather than real people being so blinded.
They have probably never had so many responses to an interview on Bill’s show … it is amazing.
Any time Reverend Wright comes up, those tapes are bound to follow.
Ask Jane Fonda.
I actually don’t have a problem with Wright. As he said tonight, people see the world differently depending on where they are standing. He’s doing what he thinks he has to do for his people give his own philosophy. (And Moyers did exactly the smart thing in not debating him. I’ve noticed that Moyers is not invested in being “right.” He’s more interested in what his guests have to say. Which is a welcome relief from cable tyrants like Olbermann and Matthews.)
I do have a problem with Obama. I cannot understand why he wants to be president of a country where the majority of its citizens are white people whom he clearly dislikes, does not understand, and does not respect. His arrogance in thinking that we must accept his inexperience and immaturity is rather frightening.
But not as frightening as the Democratic establishment that is insisting this confused, unworldly naif be its nominee.
I agree mostly with your comments. I disagree with this:
I do have a problem with him. I don’t assume the good intentions you speak of. We can’t tell what’s in his heart. What could be in his heart is he used his congregates and his people all these years not out of some good motive, but for power and the money that comes with that power over others.
Someone mentioned on this blog before he did not come from an underprivileged background. If that is true, I would questions more strongly what is in his heart as he would not have true empathy for the suffering of the underprivileged. True empathy is only achieved by living through something not observing it at a distance or just thinking about it.
And if Obama really understood the black experience in America he would have been in Memphis on the anniversary of MLK’s death.
That to me is the thing. I just wish — other than his racist grand mother — that someone could point out any part of a “black experience” in Barack Obama’s life. And please, before we get a troll invasion and I hear “single mother,” his single mother was white, upper middle class, well educated and apparently not significant enough to Barry to merit naming a book for her.
I’m curious how many young “black” (since that is his preferred racial identity) men have attended Columbia University, graduated from Harvard Law, etc, etc. I don’t get how the AA community identifies with him. He is nearly as alien to their way of life as Hillary Clinton.
This is why Barry went to Chicago…He needed to gain street cred…
He was a young man in a hurry…and they tend to gravitate towards the political fringes…causes or movements…His entire life ory i a sham…I never bought 1/2 of it as a lot of it is contradictory..
So, he joins a church and that did it?
None of his other associations come from the AA community. His alliances are either with educated whites a la Ayers, or middle eastern slum lords a la Rezko and he allows the bros and hos to live in unimproved housing … ??? That gets him his street cred? Reverand Wright should be trying to wake his flock up to the reality that is Chicago. A crook is a crook.
Bee….in Chicago there is the ESTABLISHMENT and the activists….Many of the activists often band together in political response to the ESTABLISHMENT….If BABY-O had gone to the more moderate or conservatives AA’s first it would have taken more time….Having the backing of this huge activist church brought him to the attention of AA’s that work within the ESTABLISHMENT….Also that is where he met Oprah….
“…I don’t think the crackers are buyin it….I’m shooting hoops now…”
Barry to Axelrod
So, you would be fine if it was a white minister calling black people “the enemy”? Because that was “his truth?”
This is where we liberals always get ourselves into trouble… When Wright first surfaced the Obamacrats were saying, “it’s okay, because it’s his truth!” But by the same logic, then a guy like David Duke is okay, because from his perspective that’s where he is standing, too. And neo-nazis, and misogynists, and so on.
See my point? I’m afraid I tire of the “I’m okay, You’re Okay” mindset in our Party. What Wright said and thinks is not okay, regardless of where he stands.
I really wonder how many self-described “liberals” are REALLY comfortable with what Wright said, and how many just CLAIM to be comfortable because they want to appear “enlightened” in some twisted way. My guess is that many of the hosts at Air America, all of whom are Obamapologists and now Wrightopologists, are privately disgusted and frightened by Wright but know they have to play a role for their audiences. My guess is that many of the Superdelegates currently supporting Obama- Gov Kaine of Virginia, for example- are doing so out of perceived political necessity, and actually won’t mind at all when he finally just goes away.
What I do notice that in the last several primaries, Obama has performed significantly better in polls than in actual results. Suggests to me that where before people would say they were going to vote for Obama and then went ahead and did so, the realization that this guy could actually be PRESIDENT is beginning to dawn and now many people are telling pollsters they will vote for Obama and then pull the lever for Hillary in the privacy of the voting booth. This is how a 52-48 split in the exit polls becomes 55-45 in the final tally in PA, for instance.
Soon, it may become Social Acceptable to actually tell pollsters that you intend to vote for Hillary. I think we are nearing that point now.
Excellent …
I watched Bill Moyers’ interview with Rev. Wright. In my opinion, we’re attributing too much depth to Jeremiah Wright. As SusanUnPC points out, he is primarily a performer extraordinaire and enjoys the attention. For example, during the interview his story about the day he was a Med Tech at LBJ’s gall bladder surgery came out of left field. Unless it was a bad edit, I don’t think he was answering any question with that tale. What was the purpose except ego?
Wright’s “god damn America” sermon was more understandable and slightly less offensive in the longer version. Sadly, he tended to “feminize” the colonial nations he described. I wonder about the underlying sexism this indicates. Every colonial nation he criticized during that sermon, from Britain to Japan to America, was characterized as a “she” at some time as he listed their trespasses. That said, his facts were right, and he made his point, but his anger level really turned me off.
I came away from the interview believing that Rev. Wright DID provide valuable leadership for his church. He increased the size of a diminishing congregation significantly and started some worthwhile programs. However, his good works came as much from a large ego as from true humility and a genuine concern for his congregation.
I think he was just being honest about Obama. No matter how the MSM and his supporters try to elevate the Senator, Barack Obama is first and foremost a politician. (Hillary is too.)
There’s nothing wrong with being a politician, except when fanatical followers ignore that fact and try to elevate the politician to messiah-hood — and the politician begins to believe this elevation is his destiny. That’s scary.
The Republicans will play the worst sound bites in the GE over and over again. Nuance won’t matter, true or not. I find it troubling when people over analyze something inherently bad such as Wright’s hatred for America and claim it to be “slightly less offensive.” And this is the same America that allows him to be hateful in his speech and the same America allowing his protege Obama to run for president.
It appears the Obama campaign thinks by presenting something really bad in a nice light it will blow over. That might work and Obama gets nominated but he will be destroyed in the GE. They are only stalling his inevitable loss.
By the big lack of invading Obamabots on this issue right now or at least obvious ones I would say the strategy is to let us keep talking about Wright until we are bored. That might work but Wright and all of Obama’s problems with his past will keep coming back to haunt him.
Obama and his bots are dreaming if they think a clever PR campaign will just make all these bad things just go away. But that is no surprise, Obama thinks he can wave a magic wand and fix the world’s problems. Sorry but this is the real world.
You are entitled to your opinion but I find the overall apologetic tone alarming even though I do agree with some of your points.
I hear the “people will get bored with this theory” played and replayed on Air America all the time. Here’s the BIG problem with this theory, which is usually lost on the political junkies in the media:
The VAST majority of Americans who will eventually vote this fall are not paying even the SLIGHTEST attention to any of this stuff. The NBA and NHL playoffs are underway. Summer is approaching and there are vacations to plan. The price of gas is cutting into family budgets. The stresses of everyday life take precedence.
Presidential Politics? That comes after Labor Day, at the earliest. I bet not one person in America out of twenty has seen more than a second or two of Rev. Wright’s ravings. And not one person in ten thousand saw him on Bill Moyers.
When the GOP “introduces” Rev. Wright to the populace this autumn, it really will be an introduction to most people. The clean-up job the Obama campaign is attempting now might save him a percentage point or two in Indiana, but it will do nothing for him in the fall campaign.
Very well said! I’m not too clear on how big or little the issue is with most people right now but I totally agree with what you said about the fall. It sums things up nicely.
It was intended to sell Wright to LIBERAL CRACKERS and keep them in the fold….Who else watches PBS….It will also help him sell books and tapes to his ever increasing national flock…..
Well, this “liberal cracker” took the time to watch Moyers’ interview. I didn’t buy Wright, but I understand more about the issue now. And BTW, I’m NOT in any kind of “fold.”
Several of these responses smack of their own elitism and sell the American people short (e.g., we are not paying attention to the primaries because of NHL and NBA). Sadly, they remind me of statements from the Obama-supporters.
Are y’all just the same? I give more credit to the people who post here.
The recent controversy surrounding sermons by Obama’s former pastor, Rev. Wright, and Obama’s March 18 speech on race and politics have attracted more public attention than other recent campaign events, according to Pew’s weekly News Interest Index. Nearly eight-in-ten (79%) say they heard at least something about Wright’s sermons (51% a lot, 28% a little) and about half (49%) have seen video of the sermons. (See “Obama and Wright Controversy Dominate News Cycle,” March 27, 2008.)
http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?PageID=1282
I don’t know enough about the rest of your post to make a comment. But I believe that the feebleness of PBS is such that last night won’t placate the damage done by the initial “introduction” to Reverend Wright.
Agree….Damn those pesky working class crackers…..The LIBERAL CRACKERS are already feelin sooo much better….I mean he’s such a nice old man and because we are LIBERAL CRACKERS perhaps he has a point….The liberal elite who practice a phony latte sympathy make me really disappointed…Pessimum genus inimicorum laudantes…( Flattereres are the worst type of enemies )
Not sure if Wright is pissed at O! and this is the reason for his celebrity tour. At one point he and O! had a conversation and it was Wright who initiated the idea that at some point O! may have to distance himself from him. They both agreed that this would probably happen.
It’s at the very end of this NYTimes article from April 2007.
I think he is doing damage control. Trying to show everyone what a reasonable, educated, calm person he is, and that it was all media manipulation that cast him as such a divisive, angry man.
OTOH, pointing out several times that O! is a politician and has to say what he has to say to be elected is in direct contrast to what Team O! has projected as O’s strong suit, so maybe I’m completely wrong, and he really is pissed. LOL!!
I heard an Obamapologist on POTUS 08 yesterday respond to the clip of Rev. Wright saying “I’m a minister, and that’s why I say what I say, and he’s a politician, which is why he says what he says (paraphrasing)” with “Yeah, so? Obama IS a politician.”
I would like to say the Obamapologist missed the point, but that would be giving her too many honesty points. The point was “missed” intentionally- the kind of “I dont understand what you are trying to say, let me repeat that while the clock clicks down” bullcrap we get from Lionel and other Air America hosts, and now from guests on POTUS 08. What happened to the “different kind of politics?” What happened to a rejection of “the way things are done in Washington?” What did this guest just say to the hundreds of thousands of young people who flocked to dominate caucuses in the belief that Obama WASNT really a politician?
Dammit, if the media had done it’s job, we might be having a wonderful contest between Hillary and Edwards right now.
Ehemmmm…….Jen Wright is selling books and tapes….
Bill Moyers:
Part 1
In Part 2, go to 17:40 when Moyers asks Wright if he has ever heard Obama repeat any of Wright’s controversial statements. When Wright responds, he looks down and away from Moyers. Typical black people have the tendency to do this when they are being deceptive. (In fact, typical white people also tend to do this when they are deceptive.)
We’ve already seen tapes of Obama repeating Duval Patrick surface. Watch for tapes of Obama repeating statements from Wright to surface in the future.
Part 2
This is pretty funny:
http://mydd.com/story/2008/4/26/1271/75182
This guy overdosed on KoolAid.
That was VERY funny, thanks for providing the link.
The best part was where he said that Wright had to go on Bill Moyers because it was the only place he would be allowed to explain himself at length. Oh yeah, as if every news channel in the country would not have been happy to give him all the time he wanted. What a fucking joke.
I’m so glad that this white male atheist sees Wright as a man worthy of his love. Good for you, dumbass. Go pop yourself another Perrier and sit on your suburban screened porch basking in your moral superiority.
BO describes Wright as his spiritual mentor and moral compass and I take him at his word.
Are they both racist and anti-American? Could be, but I think it more likely that they are both snake-oil salesmen, charlatans, grifters, con-men. Each uses their talent to take advantage of the vulnerable, the clueless and the just-plain-dumb.
In Wright’s case he made a nice living out of that collection plate and retired to a $1.6 mil, 10K square foot McMansion on a golf course in a gated community surrounded by white people. Hell, I bet he tees off with a few ‘white devils’ every weekend.
BO? Well his ambitions took him far beyond the sad, dilapidated southside of Chicago. But in the end, he’s just like his mentor. In a different age, he’d be selling “elixirs to cure all your ills!” Come to think of it, thats exactly what he is doing — just a garden variety con-man, thats all.
yes, trying to pull off the big con. heaven help us if he succeeds.
Wright is a wacko IMO. We will never know the reason why BO associated with this guy but it wll dog him if he should get the nomination (does he actually believe in the stuff Wright says?). I think the AA community might have a better understanding of this subject than the white community.
BM said that wright is a d#%%^ for doing the interview bc BO didn’t throw him under the bus and now he speaking out (BO is a politican and I”m a pastor, etc).
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I thought the whole Interview was Promotional propoganda and Disinformaation intended to to make “Radical Wright”…look more reasonable..really a “Reverend Wright” Passionate and dedicated..normally Soft spoken..just Dedicated..
I thought all the Video Piece were propaganda, that got in most Points of the Marxist message behind a
“LIBERATION MOVEMENT..” against White and European Oppression..from Africa, to the Middle east to the Americans..It was all meant to Appeal to anyone who is “BITTER”….because thats what Pastor Wright thrives on…”BITTERNESS..”
Thank you.. you’ve pretty much summed up everything I’ve been thinking about Wright’s performance, and his PR offensive. Total BS designed to help Obama. There is NO other reason a high dollar PR firm would take him on Pro Bono to do a media blitz.
I mean.. the dude is retired with a big ass house, all the money he could want, what’s the big deal to him what people think of him? Nothing. It’s for Obama’s benefit. If I felt like it, which I don’t, I’m sure I could easily put 1 and 1 together and find that it equals connections between the PR firm and someone close to Obama’s campaign. You know, like Dick Morris being introduced by a “mutual friend” to Obama’s cousin Odinga at a “party of a friend in Chicago”, and suddenly flying down to Kenya for a pro-bono working vacation to help his campaign. LIke that. Dick does nothing for free. That campaign is the sleaziest.
Patrick you are correct….Liberation Theology is marxism wrapped up in the baby jesus of your choice….It has been soundly condemned by the Roman Catholic Church for decades…..The theologians that promote it are usually disciplined within the church and many have been defrocked or censored…This is because it is a dangerous theology and frankly it is heresy to most denominations….Catholic or protestant….Mixed results in Latin America….But a lot of people died….
The Bill Moyers programme was informative with a tonne of background. Overall I’d say a net positive to neutral for the Rev Wright and neutral to a bit disconcerting for Obama. Still, as historian I have to say that I came away with the feeling that the Rev. Wright is in dire of a few history lessons. Two sermons were hightlighted Sep 16 2001 and Apr 13 2003. He veers into serious historical inaccuracies on several occasions most esp on Truman’s decision to use the atomic weapon on Japan. On this the Rev Wright is simply wrong.
Those who watched this programme are likely not the ones who Obama and the Rev Wright need to reach in any regard but there is not any fodder for the news cycle apart perhaps from the already out there comment that Obama is “a politician.”
There was one interesting photo of Obama as a community organizer standing in front of a poster that read “It’a Power Thing.” That struck me.
The Rev Wright is articulate no doubt but still I have an unease about him. He talks about all this love our enemies and yet still in his sermon of Jan 13 2008 railed with such hate against Hillary Clinton herself (Hillary ain’t ever been called a nigger, Hillary ain’t ever had to work twice as hard just to get noticed, Hillary ain’t ever been classed a non-person). That sermon was not broached.
That that sermon was not broached is part of why I think Wright hasn’t explained himself fully or at least to my satisfaction. Still that sermon is really mostly offensive to Hillary supporters and especially women. And historically the Rev Wright may be in the Bible but he is not in the history books.
The whole non-persons thing. In 1868, when the 14th Amendment was being discussed guess who opposed including women in the text? Frederick Douglass, that’s who. He was for the rights of men and for the continued subjugation of women even though the early suffragette movement had been strongly anti-slavery and the first social movement outside the New England Churches to advocate for emancipation.
Like Douglass, Wright has his good points but he still approaches the world from a sexist perspective. In the end, that’s what I think of Wright a good man with serious flaws and capable of hate and still suffering from a lack of a complete understanding of the human condition. There is still a deep philosophical divide between me and the Rev Wright. And I dare say that to most Americans that gulf is a deep chasm that is unbridgeable.
Charles,
Were not the suffragists American women and the suffragettes English?
The history I’ve read of the women’s fight for the right to vote in America — the women were called Suffragettes — both in the US and the UK. I believe that the two groups communicated and supported each other.
In America they were called suffragists. They did not like the title suffragettes because they considered it very demeaning.
Wright is a Black Separatist….Read the books he wrote and those of his mentor….If Black Sepratism is your thing than you have the right but this is why they embrace Farrakhan who is also a black sepratist…POTUS should not be a part of any fringe radical group or philosophy…I’m just sayin…Check it out….
Charles; thank you for you comment; I found it very interesting.
My only quibble is with what consitutes a “good man”.
For me a man that is capable of such misogeny and bigotry bordering hate; one that has such influence on so many children as a pastor of a large church and knowing uses inflamatory and (as you point out) some historical lies is just a man; not a “good” man.
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maybe the rev is telling the AA, that obama is going to say and do things that might sound pandering to whites, but its what a politician has to do…
i think he is saying obama is is talking like a politician till he gets in the white house, so AA’s shouldnt listen if obama has to kiss white ass…
Anyone notice the word “cling” is used by both Obama and Rev Wright?
Odd that.
Teak
Yes I did notice that word CLING! I guess they like to CLING to one another huh?
As far as Rev Wright: This guy is very intelligent, polished and knows how to address target audiences. He’s devious and considers himself very special in the AA community. He’s a skillful liar and racist who attempted in this interview to snow us. I didn’t buy his attempt to blow smoke up our asses with regard to his now infamous sermon. How stupid does he think we really are out here. Then he goes on to tell us eventually at the very end, that we need to re-educate our children! We need to tell them the truth about America! What he really means is that we need to tell our children his version of the truth and his version of the world according to him!
It was a complete snow job. He takes the white community for a bunch of idiots. He and Obama are alot alike really when you put the two of them on the table and dissect them point by point.
Meet the Cling-Ons folks.
We have bigger problems than race [or gender] to deal with. Obama has bigger problems than race as a candidate, namely character: he is a callow hothouse flower. Hence his appeal to juveniles of all ages.
I saw a snippet of a speech yesterday where Obama says, “It’s getting hot, and I think I’ll take off my jacket.” A bunch of screaming women go crazy in the audience.
After invoking the Jay-Z lyrics (which by the way, you should listen to. He uses the “N” word through the whole thing.) I guess Obama decided to try out Nelly’s song, It’s Getting Hot In Here. Obviously, his fangirls loved it.
Personally, it made me sick to think that the Presidency of the United States would be denigrated to pop star status if Obama is elected.
Now that makes me sick.
If as many infer Obama attended his church for political reasons, (an observation bolstered by his grandmother episode, non-attendancer at MLK cerremonies etc) maybe he MARRIED for political reasons. His father-in-law was an active participant in the Chicago machine.
Hmmmm………..That would not surprise me….Good point …I’ll ponder that one..
Rev Wright. The racist, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynistic gift that keeps on giving. The ONLY people this dog and pony show reassured were worried obamazoids. Anyone with three functioning braincells in the same area code had their disgust and horror at this clown reinforced and magnified. Someone in an earlyer comment mentioned “that one sermon”. There’s LOTS of his sermons that run off about “garlic noses”, jews, “Bill Clinton was ridin us dirty like he did Monica Lewinski”(accompanying visual of the “Rev” dry humpin the air behind the pulpit, “Americas chickens….comin home ta ROOST” relating to 9/11, America(WHITE) developed AIDS and infected the Black community,”the USofKKKA”, and my PERSONAL favorite “NA NA NA, not GAWD BLESS America, G-A-W-D DAMN AMERICA…It’s in tha BIBLE!” I think he and obamalamadingdong’s handlers(Axelrod) actually think by flooding the airwaves they will inoculate the precious by overloading and numbing out the public/electorate with the not so scarry Rev. butta wouldn’t melt in his mouth Wright. They are very, very wrong. Everytime, and they are gonna play ALOT, every time those clips of the REV play, obamalamadingdong’s chances will slide deeper and deeper into the gravitational black hole of unelectability that his poor little preznitial wannabee space ship has been orbiting around from the start of this conjob. He ALMOST did it but the corporate media got a little greedy, thought they could save a few bucksand jumped the gun. They shoulda waited till he REALLY had the nomination till they started sofeting him up for McSame and the general election. They forgot they were up against a CLINTON.
Secular….It’s shapin up to be a good weekend so far for Clinton…..Would’nt you say ?….
…I wish the noted psychiatrist Charles Krauthammer, a Washington Post columnist as well as Fox News analyst, were around to check with…By SusanUnPC
C Krauthammer? He is a neo-con propagandist.
Charles Krauthammer is a psychiatrist who occasionally follows the neo-con way of thinking, but he has a lot of insight on the “displacement” that is going on in the MSM.
“Displacement” is the psychological phenomenon which takes a situation that is simply too terrible to grasp by an observer, and switches the concern to a different topic. I.e., Islamic terrorism is simply too awful to contemplate for a whining Euro-weenie, and the spineless libtard instead switches his/her anxiety to a substitute, such as “Global Warming,” a fact which is occurring, but may not be caused by humans.
Nevertheless, the chattering classes latch onto GW & dismiss Islamic terrorism, allowing them to divert their hysteria into “progressive” memes that fit into their world-view paradigm.
Dr. Sanity is a highly-acclaimed blogger/scientist with a degree in psychology who has extensively examined the various ruses leftists use on themselves to follow the Party Line as emitted by the Political Commissariat in the NYT/WaPo/LAT board rooms.
When you see a guy who got a “D+” in the only science course he took at Vanderbilt getting a “Nobel Peace Prize” for a book on AGW, you know that an elaborate set of intellectual Potemkin villages line the road of the Progressive path to Liberal do-goodism.
And this way, no terrorists need be insulted as they continue to plot additional attacks on the USA & other Christian nations.
Well……Our current president did pronounce this a CRUSADE….Too bad he has’nt gotten the pope in line on this one……
I watched parts of the interview on CNN. Rev Wright is making the point that Obama threw him under the bus, which is not true. This is all about IN. NC they have that “under controll” with black leaders pulling the race card again, and blaming the Clintons for the “damage” they are doing to Obama so that he looses in November. As if Obama needs help there.
I don’t know if anyone noticed or mentioned above the good words Wright had about Farrakan. Don’t know if there was a follow up question on that, but I didn’t see the media picking up on that.
To me he is a guy with an identity problem. He solved it by associating with and becoming one with racists and radicals and was financed by criminals.
His supporters seem like the same type as Bushies. Blinded by their worship.
His whole campagin is so Rove like, stealthy gutter politics, constant character assasination and repeating lies ad nauseum to try to make them true.
I think Obama is a right wing tool and dangerous for our country, and Im a pretty lefty liberal or so I thought. If this is what passes for liberal now maybe Im should be called a moderate centrist. And what is with having first an ex drunk Prez and now an ex druggie? Seems we could find us one nonaddict candidate.
If the world was mine to run, there would be no question, Hillary is far and away the better candidate.