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Hypocrite, Thy Name is Axelrod

Wow. I have to admit my jaw hit the coffee table and nearly knocked my mug off when I heard David Axelrod on Face the Nation this morning.

Bob Schieffer asked him about some recent missteps by President Clinton as he stumped for his wife on the campaign trail. What we heard this morning was the nice-guy version of David Axelrod. The cameras were running and pointed straight at him, so of course he was going to pretend he couldn’t possibly know what was in Bill’s head — or heart — when it came to the things he said on behalf of Hillary.

Here’s the transcript from what I could type out - take a look…

Schieffer: What do you think about it, Mr. Axelrod? Do you think any of this has been calculated or is he just making mistakes or…?

Axelrod: Well I can’t climb into President Clinton’s head and explain why he said some of the things he said - and some of them have been regrettable. But let me say this - his wife is running for President of the United States and he is working very, very hard to try and get her elected President and to some degree that’s understandable. And, uh, maybe some of these indiscrete remarks can be written off to the passion he feels about trying to get his wife elected president so, uh, I think it should be seen in that perspective.

I do think it’s important for everybody in the process whether they’re surrogates or the candidates themselves to be thoughtful about the things that they say because — words do have meaning and they can be disruptive and divisive and we don’t need that as a party and frankly we don’t need that as a country.

Here’s the video link; the segment starts at about 2:00: Face the Nation video.

Turn off the cameras — put Axelrod in his war room back in Chicago — and we get a totally different story.

Hmmm… thoughtful. Yeah - thoughtful as in the way his campaign’s gone out - of - its - way to paint Hillary and Bill as racists whenever it suits their purposes? That kind of thoughtful?

And they don’t just do it now and then — they make a point of turning up the noise to deafening levels in the lead-up to a primary in a state with a large African American population. It’s so deafening that it drowns out all common sense or any attempt to discuss things that might actually help voters - like jobs, fixing the economy and healthcare reform.

Some of you might recall a little memo put out by the Press Secretary in Obama’s South Carolina campaign back in January. Huffington Post posted that memo, where we see how it maps out their strategy in all its divisive and ugly glory. Take a look…

Subject: MUST READ: Key S.C. figure takes issue with Clintons

Clinton Supporter Andrew Cuomo, Referring To Obama, Said “You Can’t Shuck And Jive At A Press Conference.

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Clinton, Criticizing Obama For Promising “False Hope” Said That While MLK Jr. Spoke On Behalf Of Civil Rights, President Lyndon Johnson Was The One Who Got Legislation Passed: “It Took A President To Get It Done.”

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Clinton Introducer Said JFK Gave Hope, But Was Assassinated. Clinton introducer: “If you look back, some people have been comparing one of the other candidates to JFK and he was a wonderful leader, he gave us a lot of hope but he was assassinated and Lyndon Baines Johnson actually did all his work and got the republicans to pass all those measures.”

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Bill Clinton Implied Hillary Clinton Is Stronger Than Nelson Mandela. “I have been blessed in my life to know some of the greatest figures of the last hundred years. [...] I go to Nelson Mandela’s birthday party every year and we’re still very close. [...] But if you said to me, ‘You’ve got one last job for your country but it’s hazardous and you may not get out with life and limb intact and you have to do it alone except I’ll let you take one other person, and I had to pick one person whom I knew who would never blink, who would never turn back, who would make great decisions [...] I would pick Hillary.’”

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Clinton’s NH Campaign Chair Raised The Youthful Drug Use Of Obama And Said It Would “Open The Door To Further Queries On The Matter.” Clinton’s Campaign Issued A Statement Distancing Themselves From Shaheen’s Comments And Shaheen Issued A Statement Saying That He “Deeply Regret[s] The Comments.”

snip< Donna Brazile Lashed Into Bill Clinton For Comparing Obama To A "Fairy Tale" And Said "It's An Insult...

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Amaya Smith
South Carolina Press Secretary
Obama for America

FOR THE RECORD: Here’s what Bill actually said when they attacked him over that fairy tale comment. It wasn’t about BO as a black American candidate — it was about his multiple stands on the Iraq war and the fact that the press and the media were giving him a free ride it all…

“It is wrong that Senator Obama got to go through 15 debates trumpeting his superior judgment and how he had been against the war in every year,” said Clinton, “and never got asked one time, not once, ‘Well, how could you say, that when you said in 2004 you didn’t know how you would have voted on the resolution? You said in 2004 there was no difference between you and George Bush on the war and you took that speech you’re now running on off your website in 2004 and there’s no difference in your voting record and Hillary’s ever since?’ Give me a break.

“This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen…”

He didn’t call Obama or his historic run for the presidency a fairy tale — he called the way the press were dealing with him with kid gloves a fairy tale and rightly so, dammit.

This memo was brought up by Russert in the debate in Las Vegas a few months back — Take a look

RUSSERT: In terms of accountability, Senator Obama, Senator Clinton on Sunday told me that the Obama campaign had been pushing this storyline. And, true enough, your press secretary in South Carolina — four pages of alleged comments made by the Clinton people about the issue of race.

In hindsight, do you regret pushing this story?

OBAMA: Well, not only in hindsight, but going forward. I think that, as Hillary said, our supporters, our staff get overzealous. They start saying things that I would not say. And it is my responsibility to make sure that we’re setting a clear tone in our campaign, and I take that responsibility very seriously, which is why I spoke yesterday and sent a message in case people were not clear that what we want to do is make sure that we focus on the issues.

Now, there are going to be significant issues that we debate, and some serious differences that we have.

OBAMA: And I’m sure those will be on display today.

What I am absolutely convinced of is that everybody here is committed to racial equality — has been historically.

So if he took his responsibility to quash that sort of overzealousness back then — WHY are his friends still pushing the idea that Hillary and Bill are racists?

HMMMMM????

I guess some of them just haven’t gotten that memo yet, because months after the edict went out from on high, Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC & # 3 in the House leadership) claims that Hillary’s only staying in the race to scuttle BO’s chances at winning, to clear the way for herself in 2012. He had this to say recently…

“I heard something, the first time yesterday (in South Carolina), and I heard it on the (House) floor today, which is telling me there are African Americans who have reached the decision that the Clintons know that she can’t win this. But they’re hell-bound to make it impossible for Obama to win” in November, Clyburn told Reuters in an interview.

Clyburn has yet to endorse someone but I think we all know which side his bread is buttered on. He pulled this same kind of dishonest maneuver in the lead up to the primaries in his own state.

Craig Crawford had this to say recently…

Once again, a racial dispute over Bill Clinton’s words erupts in advance of a Deep South primary where African-American voters are crucial. And once again, Rep. James E. Clyburn, D-S.C., is at the forefront of attacks against his party’s former president.

Seizing upon Clinton’s assertion last week that Barack Obama’s camp “played the race card on me” in January before the South Carolina primary, Clyburn is leveraging his status as the highest-ranking black leader in Congress to stir the pot in advance of North Carolina’s May 6 primary.

Somebody remind me again… what states are coming up next? Indiana and… ?

David Axelrod is the biggest hypocrite going guys. For him to pretend he can’t or doesn’t want to get inside Bill’s head is the biggest load of bullshit anyone has ever tried to shovel in this campaign to date.

I think we all know what he’s said and done once the cameras were turned off. He’s made every effort to paint two good and decent Democrats as racists. It’s sickening - absolutely sickening that he would then turn around and go on Face the Nation and pretend he’s a good guy in all this. In front of millions of people.

The thing is - we’ve seen how the guy operates and it’s in no way what he pretended to be this morning.

Maybe it’s time for him to find another job because he’s becoming more and more obvious with every day that passes.

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Comment by jd | 2008-04-27 22:27:15

It is the #1 reason I will never ever vote for Obi. Never. Ever.

Comment by simon, too | 2008-04-28 08:37:54

No, he can’t climb into Clinton’s head, he can’t even guess.

And therein lies the problem, these idiots who think they’re proficient, when they’re not.

As if Axelrod would have access to anyone smart enough to truly understand HOW Clinton is gaming Obama, how Clinton thinks, if he could make sense of the information, as a strategist, Obama wouldn’t be in such chaos.

These idiots walk in to these jobs as consultants, and think it’s enough, having no idea the dynamics they have entered, as if they’re the only consultants in the world, all of equal skill, and intellect. It’s a trap, what happens when someone intelligent and well trained climbs into Axelrod’s head, to understand his thinking?

Heh.

We get Obama.

Or if Rove, we get Bush.

Boy, I have a taste for some KFC, don’t know why…

Comment by JKFriz | 2008-04-28 09:51:38

I would invite all of you to read Elizabeth Edwards’ excellent op-ed in tis weekend’s Times as an antidote to the issue-free character of this and other blogs that focus consistently on the controversy du jour and relentless picking-over of campaign strategies.

We deserve better, and we need to hear more about the issues that actually matter to Americans at this rough moment in our national history.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/opinion/27edwards.html

Well, the rancor of the campaign was covered. The amount of money spent was covered. But in Pennsylvania, as in the rest of the country this political season, the information about the candidates’ priorities, policies and principles — information that voters will need to choose the next president — too often did not make the cut. After having spent more than a year on the campaign trail with my husband, John Edwards, I’m not surprised.

Why? Here’s my guess: The vigorous press that was deemed an essential part of democracy at our country’s inception is now consigned to smaller venues, to the Internet and, in the mainstream media, to occasional articles. I am not suggesting that every journalist for a mainstream media outlet is neglecting his or her duties to the public. And I know that serious newspapers and magazines run analytical articles, and public television broadcasts longer, more probing segments.

But I am saying that every analysis that is shortened, every corner that is cut, moves us further away from the truth until what is left is the Cliffs Notes of the news, or what I call strobe-light journalism, in which the outlines are accurate enough but we cannot really see the whole picture.

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-28 09:56:25

Actually, I am glad you raised this.

Senator Clinton does a much better job in debates that Obama does and I believe that is numero uno reason he is refusing any further debates.

His supporters went OFF on ABC so successfully that Katie Couric wasn’t going to ask ANYTHING remotely off topic … Katie has her own creds to worry about don’t you think?

Charlie Gibson had to school him on capitol gains taxes for goodness sake … I think that Axlerod is doing everything possible to keep his client on script. Off of it, he looks lackluster and, well, human and inexperienced. Certainly not polished or wonkish … but, hey, if people like an empty black suit, who am I to question it? Perhaps they secretly want President McCain?

 
 
 

Comment by susan | 2008-04-28 20:17:37

Isn’t it great how time and God have a way of evening the score, how fate always intervenes at the appropriate time? Maybe what happened in the last 2 days with Wright turning on Obama is just Axelrod’s “chickens coming home to roost”!!I have long said that Obama is just the pawn in Axelrod’s and the corrupt Chicago political machine’s plan to take their lucrative game from the streets of Chicago to the halls of the white house. Blagojewich was their first choice, but when he became involved with the FBI’s probe into the Rezko indictment, Obama got pulled off the bench as their second choice. He was groomed by them. Read Evelyn Pringle’s expose’ on scoop.com on Obama’s rise in Chicago politics. Both fascinating AND frightening! Obama made all the wrong choices, from which law firm to work at, where to begin his political career, which pastor/church to choose, the friends/associations he has chosen, even who to marry. Is he so elitist that he thought he would never be found out??? That no one should ever question HIM??? But of all his wrong choices, the “wrongest” was WRIGHT!!!

 
 

Comment by mel | 2008-04-27 22:39:30

when michelle spewed those Race bait words, one decission was made by me, No Obama no way!

Comment by sonia | 2008-04-27 23:17:29

when i heard michelle say ,,,,,black america will wake up and vote for obama,,,,,,

i knew she was dividing us as it is ,,,,,,,,,,while hubby was presching unity for the sake of his presidency bid

 
 

Comment by Reverend Wrong | 2008-04-27 22:45:06

I do believe two very special places in hell are being reserved as we speak for Axelrod and Obama. Maybe they can room together and cut costs? I’m a Reverend, I know these things. :)

Comment by yikes | 2008-04-27 23:24:33

 
 
 

Comment by bluesky | 2008-04-27 22:45:17

Axelrod is just plain evil. I just hope the AA community will get that the Obama campaign is using them, and certainly does not have their best interests at heart. We knew they would play the race card again. It’s part of the formula. The nerve of them to paint the Clintons, who have worked their whole lives on behalf of the AA community, as racist is just disgusting and yes it’s evil. All I can say about this is I pray more people start seeing through this charade, and vote for the candidate that will fight for them no matter what. She will never abandon the AA community not even after they have so easily turned their backs on her. That is how real and genuine Hillary is.

Go Hillary!

 

Comment by ScottVA | 2008-04-27 22:46:41

I second the first comment… It’s Clinton or McCain for me. I’ll do whatever I can (and I’m not alone here in VA) to see that VA stays RED if Obama is the Democratic nominee!

Comment by Reverend Wrong | 2008-04-27 22:49:04

Obama is the suicide pill for the Democratic Party.

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-28 06:20:39

AMEN …

It people want to see a Democratic party after this election, they will not support him. It comes down to that, quite honstly.

He is a horror story a la Stephen King.

 
 
 

Comment by Gloria | 2008-04-27 22:47:08

My intelligence is being insulted by Obama and his crew more and more. I would NEVER vote for him. I have a brain.

 

Comment by D. Cupples | 2008-04-27 22:48:17

Hi Alegre!

I haven’t seen your stuff as regularly as before. How are you?

 

Comment by Reverend Wrong | 2008-04-27 22:51:49

Alegre you have some stomach to watch Axelrod. I would have puked.

 

Comment by D. Cupples | 2008-04-27 23:04:08

Interestingly enough, a young person I know — who is very tied into GOP politics — asked me a few weeks ago: “You do know who Axelrod is, don’t you?”

I said something like, “Not before he started running Obama’s campaign.”

He said “Axelrod is the Karl Rove of Chicago, only 10 times worse and not as smart.”

Comment by JoeySky | 2008-04-27 23:09:05

I agree that Axelrod is not as smart as Rove. One can respect the enemy. I respect Rove, but not Axelrod.

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-28 08:55:33

I think the fact that John and Elizabeth Edwards kicked him to the curb speaks volumes.

 
 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-04-27 23:21:18

Good post Allegre….In my opinion this was the only way that Axelrove had o beat Sen. Clinton….Given that his package had a very thin record of deeds and really just his AMERICAN IDOL type of shallow charisma as his major attraction; it seemed inevitable to me that this would become the tactic. Now the strategy is turning on them and all kinds of folks are beating a turnaround. Even Uncle Jeremiah is trying to soften his image. If the stakes were’nt so high the whole thing would just be weird and silly. Axelrove is planning for te clients he’ll need after the primaries….I may be cynical but I take it as even Axelrove is doubting the electability of BABY-O. After a while even the fizziest of sodas goes flat out in the open….

 

Comment by yikes | 2008-04-27 23:22:34

Campaign managers are sleazy by nature.

If Clyburn was out to burn Clinton he would have endorsed in South Carolina. He very purposefully stayed out of it. If you’re mad at Obama because of what he said when he hasn’t even endorsed, I really don’t know what to say. Obama isn’t responsible for what his supporters say, and he certainly isn’t responsible for what his non-supporters say.

Many of us were offended by Clinton’s comments, and it had nothing to do with what Obama supporters (or non-supporters) had to say about it. I realize that he loves and supports his wife, so I forgive him, but I thought his Jesse Jackson comment was out of line.

Flame away.

Comment by sonia | 2008-04-27 23:26:08

Comment by yikes | 2008-04-27 23:30:26

And the attacks on Obama by Clinton are at least as bad and uncalled for. Why can’t we agree as DEMOCRATS that this whole thing has become an ugly mess?

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-28 06:22:34

Because people like you are of the mind that Bill Clinton is a racist? I don’t know … is it just me?

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-04-28 08:47:07

Agree with you Bee…..Poverty s the great leveller as it does not distinguish race, gender or creed. Because Ol’ Bill grew up Po in the South and worked his way into an enlightened edumication he became a true Po Boy success story.
Both Clintons are sincere in identifying with the oppressed.
Ol’ Bill has every right to be Pissed Off at being called a racist.

 
 
 
 

Comment by sonia | 2008-04-27 23:28:23

http://www.bilerico.com/2008/04/the_messiah_wears_no_clothes.php

a wonderful article on obama,s false mailers in indiana

 

Comment by jangles | 2008-04-27 23:51:10

You are incorrect. Clyburn did not endorse because the DNC allowed SC to hold its primary early with the condition that SDs would stay neutral. Check the record.

 

Comment by tewuwei | 2008-04-28 00:33:08

I keep reading this complaint about Bill Clinton’s mention of Jesse Jackson’s wins in South Carolina being racist, or dismissive of Obama. For the life of me, I do not get why this is an offensive statement. A lot of us oldtimer Dems supported Jackson back then and were glad to see him stir things up for the party, and were glad he ran and won some states. It was a major accomplishment of his Rainbow Coalition in those days to have done so.
Seems to me it is Obama who is disrespecting a black elder statesman by acting all offended at the comparison. Obama owes Jesse Jackson some props.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-04-28 01:18:25

It was’nt. Ol’ Bill was stating a fact. 3 cadidates won that state. Clinton himself, Edwards, and Jesse Jackson. Edwards was still in the race and to mentin himself would have been awkward that is why he simply stated Jackson. It was a fact….Axelrove spun it into something else because it’s the only way they can beat Sen. Clinton.

Comment by Kathy | 2008-04-28 08:34:19

You bet ya. It was an exciting time to have an AA in the race. I think Bill was sincere in his remarks. It is something I would have said. Give kudos to Jesse.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-04-28 09:13:45

I always liked Jesse but he let that revealing ” Hymie Town ” comment come out and that was it for him…..
Anti-Semitism in any form is not acceptable….Nuff said….

 
 
 

Comment by alexei | 2008-04-28 08:56:50

Absolutely agree. Also, Obama race baits and at the same time, runs away from the AA community by not showing up at the State of the Black Union, the anniversary of MLK’s assassination, putting Jesse Jackson in a box, not talking at all about AA issues, etc. etc.

 
 
 

Comment by sonia | 2008-04-27 23:24:11

there are plenty of names to call Bambi based on what he is like:

empty suit
axel-puppet
BamBam
Bambi-Boy
Waffles
Arugula
BitterBambi
BitterMan
Oafama
Oblah-ma
etc

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-04-28 00:03:01

And the GOP will use them all.

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-28 09:01:32

The GOP (”get Obama properly”) has sooooo much that isn’t in play in a Democrat on Democrat race that the obamphiles will just (as Uppity says) go fetal when the REAL shit hits the fan.

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain’t seen nothin’ yet
Here’s something that you never gonna forget
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain’t seen nothin’ yet

 
 

Comment by Reverend Wrong | 2008-04-28 09:05:16

You forgot “Owahwah” for being a baby that can’t debate Hillary more than 4 times one on one.

 

Comment by JKFriz | 2008-04-28 09:45:49

Hey, productive morning, Sonia! You must be the toast of the playground.

 
 

Comment by sonia | 2008-04-27 23:30:32

Reverend Wright is NOT a liberating voice. He is NOT celebrating diversity. He is NOT saying different is different not deficient. There was a mocking in his tone. There was a celebrating of “the black experience” (well this is what Wright made it seem like, unfortunately, that it comes all homogenized, all AA are one way, all European another) at the expense of all our other experience. He was forcing bridge with other religious leaders from different faiths there as a cover to give legitimacy to his own agenda. It was not a genuine respect for diversity of faith and personal beliefs or lack thereof. It was not giving other people space to speak for themselves, to give their own voices to the experience. It was an assertion of Wright’s very eccentric mix of half-truths and untruths to tell his historical, sociological, and political thesis - and if you don’t agree then you are not for unity. It was a forging of a false “unity umbrella”, based on assimilation, not respect.

 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-04-27 23:31:25

Good Evening

Sugar has the transcript up of that FOX show where Kristol FLIPS the world on it’s axis by his shocking defense of Hillary! (from today)
http://sugarnspice.typepad.com/

He was as surprised as I was!
And his round table friends were too. It’s not the video (which would be better) but the words are there.

Kristol caught himself off guard and it was awesome!

Bill Kristol Fledgling Feminist

(the sky is falling, pigs are flying and you should see the size of the snow ball heading towards HELL right now!) It’s big! ;-)

Comment by Reverend Wrong | 2008-04-28 09:06:43

Enjoyed your mash of metaphors very much. :)

And thank you for the link I wanted to see what he said.

 
 

Comment by sonia | 2008-04-27 23:32:42

“You can be … the first black man to have a black woman sleeping at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue legally,” Wright said. “You can change the system.”

thats what wright said today ,,in dallas

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-04-27 23:37:42

yea it’s pretty much over for BO

His Pastor or what ever he is got a GREAT big HUGE encore and rounds of applause earlier by a million other men of the cloth like that was enough to change everyone’s mind.

NOT

I’m not comfortable with any one shoving their religion down my throat!

I’ve seen all I need to see and hear of Wright for one lifetime. I think MOST main stream Americans feel the same way.

Pushing this in the spotlight is a big mistake! BIG!

jmo

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-28 09:03:11

There is just no stopping that huge mouth from saying the most inappropriate things, is there?

As if that were the only reason to vote for Obama ….

 
 

Comment by OxyCon | 2008-04-27 23:56:22

They don’t call him “Axelrove” for nothin’

 

Comment by jyotinc | 2008-04-27 23:57:46

if race card worked in sc, sorry not in nc. we know their tricks.

 

Comment by Lil' Mike | 2008-04-28 00:58:39

Obamabots thought that Clinton’s Jesse Jackson comments were “out of line” once they were told to think that way by the people who do their thinking for them.

Those of us who remember the Jesse Jackson campaigns in the 80’s know that Jesse ran terrific campaigns. I voted for him twice, in 84 and 88.

In fact Bill Clinton, who knows Rev. Jackson very well, referenced that Jackson ran strong campaigns in the 80’s. Clinton’s Jesse Jackson remarks were not racist at all.

The Obama campaign decided that the only way to beat Hillary was to destroy Bill Clinton’s goodwill within the party by painting him as a racist. As soon as they did that Obama lost my vote forever.

Obama is a disgrace. He will cost the Democrats the election in November.

Comment by may not have to leave party | 2008-04-28 01:01:01

totally agree. the disgusting trashing of the clintons just tells me that obama cares about noone but himself. he deserves to end up in a lonely room with just himself (and michelle - birds of a feather).

 

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-04-28 01:50:57

Maybe that is why the Obama cultists continue to come here. The readers/commenters here think for themselves. This threatens the cultists who are incapable of independent thought.

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-28 06:30:41

I am always surprised how the real people in the story — in this case the real Jesse Jackson never speak up. Disappointed I guess is the real sentiment.

Comment by Mary | 2008-04-28 08:24:08

Actually, Jesse Jackson DID respond, by saying publicly that he saw no racism at all in Clinton’s comments.

And then he suddenly went quiet.

 

Comment by Mary | 2008-04-28 08:24:08

Actually, Jesse Jackson DID respond, by saying publicly that he saw no racism at all in Clinton’s comments.

And then he suddenly went quiet.

 
 
 

Comment by glennmcgahhee | 2008-04-28 06:17:18

I haven’t gone through the previous comments yet but I read what I beleive to be the best summary of what has gone down regarding the “race baiting” memo that was distributed by the Obama campaign previous to South Carolina and how it was co-opted by the talking heads and lazy media. Its a very comprehensive timeline that explains everything in detail.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/McCamy%20Taylor/203

 

Comment by Nag | 2008-04-28 08:17:47

Great post, Alegre. It was predicted on this blog and elsewhere that come NC, also comes the claims of racism by the Obama camp. And now, right on cue, they start to pump their claims of racism against Hillary’s camp. Every time they loose, it’s because of racism. How many times can they claim racism without there being serious blowback?

Is this going to be their plan to win the GE? Call everyone who won’t vote for Barry a racist? Because if this is all they got, it’s Bye Bye Barry.

 

Comment by The Gringo's Wife | 2008-04-28 09:31:18

Saying Axelrod is a hypocrite is like swearing up and down that ice cream is cold.

I watched the same thing and was struck with the love fest they are trying to play up now — Obama be different. He won’t go negative. He’ll just scratch his nose with his middle finger for laughs.

 

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