Identity Politics and Anti-White Racism
By Bud White on May 1, 2008 at 6:18 PM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Clinton, Hate Speech, Hillary Clinton, North Carolina, Obamedia, Race, Race Card, Superdelegates, White People
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire
Recent polls show that approximately 30% of Hillary voters could defect to McCain if Obama is the nominee. That such a large swath of Democratic voters might defect should be disconcerting to superdelegates, to say the least. I’ve been reflecting for several weeks on my own unease with Obama, a man who was once my second choice for president.
Last month I attended a Passover dinner and the conversation predictably turned to politics. (For those who don’t know, a Passover Seder is perhaps the first liberation theology ceremony, celebrating the Jewish people’s Exodus from slavery in Egypt).
One of my dinner companions was a computer salesman from New Jersey and an avid Obama supporter. I told him that Obama’s (largely) successful effort to paint the Clintons as racists had me doubting if I could vote for him if he were the nominee. He responded by saying that it was good politics and showed that Obama was willing to do whatever it took to win.
His acknowledging that Obama has been playing racial politics has me rethinking the idea of a racial dog-whistle, the notion that only African Americans, for example, understand that when Obama says “hoodwink, okie-doke, bamboozled,” he means that the Clintons are treating them like fools, attempting to undermine the Clintons’ hard-earned reputations as advocates for all Americans.
Most Americans who are paying attention, I suggest, understand Obama’s use of race. Obama’s problems with Bitter-gate and Rev. Wright underscore that Obama is not the uniter he claims to be, but rather a shrewd practitioner of identity politics.
I think most Americans are more culturally literate and less racist than the neo-liberals think (and perhaps as some neo-liberals are), regardless of their income bracket. Hillary voters understand that Obama, in cahoots with the Obamablogs and much of the media, has been willing to do whatever it takes to derail Hillary, and this includes smearing the Clintons as racists.
Randi Rhodes epitomized the venom against the Clintons and the Obama supporters use of anti-white racism when she said: “The Clinton campaign describes Hillary’s voters as older, white, and undereducated. Or as we called them in my neighborhood: white trash.” No wonder white voters are turning off to Obama.
Sean Wilentz, contributing editor at The New Republic, has been one of the few observers to honestly report on Obama’s use of racial politics. Wilentz has posted a new piece on the Huffington Post which further examines Obama’s effort to paint the Clintons as racists:
Once again, the Barack Obama campaign and its supporters, fresh from a stinging defeat, are trying to stir up false accusations that Hillary Clinton and her campaign have cynically injected racial animosities into the campaign.
The latest round of charges about the Clintons have come from a familiar source, Representative James Clyburn of South Carolina, the highest-ranking black leader in Congress. In January, after the Obama campaign suffered stunning defeats in New Hampshire and Nevada, Rep. Clyburn, although nominally uncommitted, joined a chorus of concerted complaint about Hillary Clinton’s supposed denigration of Martin Luther King, Jr. and his contributions to the 1964 Civil Rights Act because of her observation that President Lyndon Johnson had played a crucial part in guiding its passage. (Clinton’s actual remarks, rarely reported, praised King enormously and were historically accurate.)
Wilentz details again Obama and his surrogates’ depressing use of race: Jesse Jackson Jr.’s words about Katrina and Hillary’s tears, Clyburn insinuating that WJC’s “fairy tale” remark was racist, the infamous South Carolina memo, and the false accusation that Hillary had insulted the legacy of Martin Lurther King:
It may strike some as ironic that the racializing should be coming from a black candidate’s campaign and its supporters. But this is an American presidential campaign–and there is a long history of candidates who are willing to inflame the most deadly passions in our national life in order to get elected. Sadly, it is what Barack Obama and his campaign gurus have been doing for months–with the aid of their media helpers on the news and op-ed pages and on cable television, mocked by “SNL” as in the tank for Obama. They promise to continue until they win the nomination, by any means necessary.
Regarding the class war in the Party and Bitter-gate, Anglachel writes that:
Obama is projecting his own bitterness at being denied a win, attributing hateful and defamatory intentions to those who will not provide him what he believes he deserves. I’m sure there are people out there who won’t vote for him because of the color of his skin. I know a few. They are all Republicans. Empirical evidence does not support his claims about those who won’t vote for him, no matter how loud GKJM and Kos scream about the horrible racists supporting the horrible Hillary Mommy Monster.
Blue-collar whites know that the most important color in America is green, and they don’t feel particularly privileged themselves. They have listened as elite Obama supporters insult their lives (”It appears that Appalachia has an Obama problem,” sniffed a DailyKos diarist). They have watched as Obama has smeared the Clintons, defended his anti-white mentor and then had the audacity to lecture them on race, called his loving grandmother a “typical white person,” and insulted their culture, religion, and concerns to a group of San Francisco billionaires.
It’s not clear if Obama’s break with Rev. Wright will allow him to regain momentum. The one thing that is clear, however, is that many voters who gave Obama a serious look and were inspired by his post-racial message now believe that he drank deeply from the well of Rev. Wright’s teachings and unless Senator Clinton becomes the Democratic nominee, Senator McCain is seen as an appealing alternative.
As Rabbi Hetch writes regarding Passover, “whether you are Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Agnostic, atheist, or a no label, Let’s all appreciate being liberated from being labeled and stereotyped.” I’ll drink to that.
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Bud White is the man–what else is there to say? (And Sean Wilentz deserves a round of applause, too.)
Bud White is another of my favorite people on this blog.
Thanks to both you. Win or lose, we have stand for our principles as progressives.
You’re welcome. I think that I have seen you on Taylor Marsh, too.
Yes, I love TM and her people.
I post as “nomobama” as in NO MOre OBAMA on TM.
Bud White is right on! Wilentz deserves praise.
I accidently sent my pro-Obama brother an email requesting donations for Hillary, he sent me the following email, which really broke my heart-
“Sorry John. Leah and Steven have been around since the Reagan administration and we have seen nothing but Bushs and Clintons in the White House for their entire lives.
At the beginning of the campaign I did lean toward Hillary. The tone of the campaign tells me that Hillary cares about Hillary, she feels it is her turn and will do anything to either get elected or make sure Obama loses in November. That’s not enough for me. I believe we need new blood and a president that will not just take the hard line on everything. That is the Bush approach and where has that gotten us.
Of course I will support Hillary if she wins the nomination as Republicans have time and time again proven that they cannot be trusted with power.”
(Stephen and Leah are his kids, both in their mid-twenties.)
I can’t believe how easily this smart man has gulped down so many Obama talking points. I knew he supported Obama, but this is such crap- and my dad and other brother feel pretty much the same way.
Look at the bright side, he is at least willing to support her in Nov.
That he will consider voting for Hillary should she run speaks to his concerns for our country.
Re that popular line about Bushes and Clintons in the White House, equating Clintons with Bushes, one of the most enraging Barack memes, it might be good to remind people that FDR was elected for four terms. If he’d lived he might have been elected for more, people were so grateful for what he’d done to improve their own economic lives, saving many lives, actually. No one (except Repubs) complained about how long he’d been there.
I believe it was Repubs who passed amendment limiting to two terms, not wanting another Roosevelt.
When Bill left office he had almost 70% approval rating, even after Monica craziness. Without that it might have been 80 or 90%. Who wouldn’t want Clintons back in White House?
Oh, that’s right, Barack and his supporters.
Ask your brother, was it the peace or the prosperity?
And I know, my SI likes Barack, too. It’s very painful when someone you love is so deluded. Although he may be coming around lately…. I’m hoping.
OH THE IRONY…..chuckle……
You are correct speaktruth…..The republicans also wanted to repeal it for ST. REAGAN…..Thank God for the democratic majority of the time.
* There is also a republican contingent that would also like to chane the BORN ON NATIVE SOIL requirement so that ARNOLD of Sunny California could run for POTUS *
You should be happy that he at least will vote for her in November.
That’s funny. I just wrote an email to Charles Krauthammer saying he in his column today (Friday) to say that Obama turned on Wright because of the venue in which Wright made his comments this week. What really changed was that Wright personally insulted Obama. Just listen to Obama’s remarks in repudiating Wright. It ias all about him, me, our campaign. No outrage at all about the blatant insults to white Americans, including Wright ridiculously making fun of white people for being unable to clap to the rhythm of music!
Any man that has written TWO memoirs by the time he is in his forties is way too focused on himself. The man is a certified naval gazer.
Personally, I think that Obama needed an excuse to denounce his minister and Wright provided it. We know Axelrod had a publicity firm to handle the Church’s PR.
I think, the entire mini-series over the last week or so was produced by Axelrod to provide cover for Obama to “distance himself from Wright, so that no one can ever, ever equate Obama with Wright again. Everything that came before is just GONE, and if you ever bring it up again YOU ARE A RACIST. I do not believe the relationship between Wright and Obama has changed one bit. As Wright said “Obama is a politician”.
By the way, did you see where Michelle said she discouraged Obama from entering politics? RIGHT.
I believe this was the plan also for Wright and Obama. I was looking at Wrights’ face as he left that conference and he was smirking and his eyes were saying “I hope it worked.” I swear to God–that is what I read in that man’s face following his little sideshow.
Here is the reply I sent to my brother:
So…you aren’t supporting the person with the real universal health care plan, the specific proposals, and the toughness to take on the Republicans because her last name is Clinton?
Hillary is the only candidate who has sworn to help the Democrats win in November regardless of who the nominee is. Michelle Obama said she’d “have to think about” whether she’d support Hillary. The “anything to win” line is directly from the GOP playbook- it has no basis if fact, unless “anything to win” means “makes commercials suggesting she’s ready to be President” and “campaigning hard.” The Clintons didnt inject race into the campaign- that’s another media lie, fed to CNN and MSNBC by the Obama campaign after they lost New Hampshire.
I’ll vote for Obama if he’s the nominee, though I believe he is woefully unprepared for the Presidency. We’ll never know though because in my opinion he has zero chance to win in November- he’s been a lousy candidate except when it comes to fundraising, his base is shrinking, not growing. I just hope that Hillary isn’t blamed for the loss, though I’m sure she will be. She and Bill have been blamed for everything else, why stop now?
I married into a Jewish family 28 years ago, and I have never Once heard any of them talk about the holocaust, what was done to 6 million Jews, what the world owes them because of it, or their hatred of ANY people. Why is it that many radical blacks continue to perpetuate the notion that all blacks are entitled to something from “the man” for all eternity because of what was done to their ancestors??? And now Obama wants to take away from hard working middle class whites and give to blacks in the interest of “fairness”! The fair thing would be for all blacks to realize that the very radical blacks, like Wright, Jackson, and Sharpton, are getting rich off the backs of the blacks who buy into this myth.
Susan I know this sounds cynical but I think there is resentment that is manipulated towards Jews because of reparations that many in th AA community have been leveraging for…..Couple that with this anti-israel pro-palestinian crap could be a factor. Wright’s Black Lberation Theology is as MIDEVIL as Mel Gibsons’ fringe CATHOLICISM….both still recycle and blame the jews for killing Jesus ( the usual old anti-semetic rant )
In Wrights’ theology he ” kills ” again by trying to change his identity to make Jesus appeal to the AA congregation. In this theology Jesus is imagined as a Black Man with more in commonwith Anwar Sadat then what we know from The Israelites of history and archaeology. It’s the african american version of what the Roman Catholic Church did for centuries, although the Jewishness of Jesus was never de-emphasized i doctrine but imagery. The RCC has been down that road and have sought to repair the damaged relationship. I wonder how long it could take for this breach to heal. The racist propoganda that comes from these churches and politicians is as dangerous as any Nazi or KKK’er
i read that cone said to kill god or something along that line. that’s not any reglieon i know.
Consider that exploiting blacks through the use of victimization and anger at whites keeps these churches in business.
While church has been a wonderful and liberating force for AA’s to express their feelings and desires, and address their needs, I see little of this in Wright’s positions.
His church has done some good in the community, but allowing his congregants to feel victimized and playing on rage is counterproductive to their needs and goals for equality in every way.
That “typical whites” don’t understand the role of the AA church is incorrect. Liberals in particular understand and respect the role activist churches have played in the civil rights movement.
I have attended AA chrurch sermons that address social injustice, but I have not been exposed to this kind of opportunistic sermonizing which plays to the least aspirational elements inherent in this kind of liberation movement church.
Wright is over the top as I am sure many Pastors are, but he digs into the
area of disinformation to solidify his base without concern for it’s ultimate outcome
What botthers me about Obama is that he has played the race card unmercifully, and has used race
to promote the notion that he is entitled to the presidency.
He has appeared indecisive and exposed as politically motivated throughout this soap opera,and his physical demeanor looks tentative and hypocritical
Wright’s rage has drained energy and integrity from Obama’s campaign. It gets really hard seeing this waffling ideological drama as a setting for a legitimate presidency.
Ehemmmm…..Norris…..Welcome to the world of Liberation Theology.
Marxism wrapped up in the militant baby Jesus…..( nutshell )
Respectfully, why would you want to do that? I’d rather have McCain control our nuclear arsenal than a woefully unprepared (I agree!) man in diapers who hates the world. Well, I urge you to reconsider, although Hillary might make this a moot point and will pull off the huge upset we know she is totally capable of.
I trust her with the “football” as it is known. I won’t trust the lives of my loved ones and community with that angry man in diapers. Never.
Dear soon-to-be-former-presidential-candidate Obama,
The problem with the race card or any other card is once you play it at some point the world sees you are crying wolf when you overplay it.
MLK rolls in his grave again. Thanks Obama you bastard, you’ve set back the civil rights movement and now Hillary is going to have to help heal the nation — which she with other REAL leaders will do. You are a poser leader.
I got a “historic speech” to deliver to you: fuck off.
Sincerely,
The soul of America
I like your speech: it’s concise, to-the-point, and generally sums up how I feel.
LOL. I like your comment!
Hey Guitarist….If you ever want to say it in Latin…..Chuckle……
Perite !……( Fuck Off ! )
Bonus Latin : Derideo te ! Qualem blennum !…..
Translation : I laugh at you ! What a doofus !
Thanks pal!
Norrismorris and GarlicNose,
Beautifully said.
O played the race card yet again tonight on that very boring interview that has been recycled again and again and again. I’ve decided that MSNBC and CNN are just one looong constant commercial for Obama.
Compare that with Hil’s interview with O’R. Even he was impressed. And he said he received hundreds (or was it thousands) of emails from people who were shocked at how great she was!
I suspect there are many Repub women who vote for her and never tell family and friends. That would explain why polls always rate her lower.
Thanks.
Agreed, I wrote this late last night:
I don’t know. We’re watching some folks on FOX we thought we’d never watch. It is simply an issue of not believing their words are sincere.
Wow, great observation!
I agree with you…..Axelrove is a student of Goebbels….
It’s getting scary tribal….
I didn’t know we could use such language here. Thank you for expressing the sentiments of a lot of us! Gotta love those garlic noses!!!
I use it on occasion here and have not been reprimanded. I think Larry believes in the First Amendment, as do I.
That’s why I was strong with my language, it is what many people are thinking and feeling.
Don’t forget the larger group of typical white people.
Like any strong seasoning, the use of such language is sometimes appropriate but should be kept to a minimum.
Consider Obama a salt-free baked potato chip then — the kind that taste like fucking cardboard — in need of lots of seasoning.
And last time I checked, there were no thought police on duty.
Good post, Bud White, as usual.
(Bud White as in L.A. Confidential Bud White?)
On the QT, and strictly hush-hush.
Beautifully done, Bud. And really, so sad. The bitter man with the self-identity crises projects all his mental dirty laundry upon America.
The race card began with Bill Clinton’s remark on obama’s victory in SC ‘jesse jackson won in SC also’-he marginalized Obama and put him into a box as the black candidate. Obama was not running as this-
whatever the case, Hillary and her surrogates are running a slimy campaign and how you supporters cannot see that is beyond me.
No. It started with Clinton’s “Fairy Tale” remark, and it was a real stretch, but they pulled it off. The SC remark came after that. How you cannot remember that is beyond me.
Selective recollection is tantamont to spinning a tale that backs your point of view.
The fairy tale was Bill Clinton’s response to Obama’s position on the Iraq War. That he didn’t support it and wouldn’t have voted for it. At the beginning it was the benchmark of Obama’s campaign. And Bill was trying to rebuff it by pointing out that Obama was saying something that he has no way of proving because he couldn’t know what he would have done had he been in the Senate. Obama, himself, admitted this. Bill called it a fairy tale and it is. It’s juvenile.
Michelle Obama misquoted him saying that Bill had called Obama’s candidacy a fairy tale, that as a black candidate he had no chance to win. She didn’t stretch anything. She misquoted him and the MSM let it stand for many news cycles before tacitly correcting it.
They only corrected it after Bill made the Jesse Jackson won SC remark. Once they had a direct quote they could spin as racist then they corrected the misquote.
Frankly, the furor over the Jackson remark escapes me. Perhaps because I remember it well. Jackson ran a multi-cultural campaign and attracted a good amount of the very white voters Obama is unable to, white working class rural voters, tired of Reaganomics. Jackson scared the beejeesus out of the Party for a minute. I’ll post a link w/info if I can find it recapping the history. It’s worth a read if only because it shows that Obama and the AA community threw Jackson and his historical run for the presidency under the bus. His candidacy was not as marginal as everyone is trying to remember it as. Bill Clinton tried to point this out as well, but nobody was listening. And just like Hillary’s LBJ remark was historically accurate so was Bill’s. It appears that Obama’s campaign isn’t interested in historical accuracy.
After early respectable losses in Iowa and New Hampshire, he won five southern states on Super Tuesday, March 8, 1988. On March 12 he won the caucus in his birth state of South Carolina and three days later finished second in his home state of Illinois. On March 26, 1988 Jackson stunned Dukakis and the rest of the nation in the Michigan caucus: Having won that northern industrial state with 55 percent of the vote, Jackson became the Democratic front-runner. Dukakis later recaptured the lead and the eventual nomination with strong showings in the second half of the primary season.
Jackson then exercised the power of his second-place finish to force his consideration as a vice-presidential running mate and to influence the nature of the Democratic Convention and the issues included on its platform. Although Jackson was not chosen as the vice-presidential running mate, he had succeeded in bringing Americans of all colors to consider a black man for the presidency and vice-presidency.”
here’s the link:
http://gale.cengage.com/free_resources/bhm/bio/jackson_j.htm
What was sad about Jackson’s run was what eventually brought it down…..His famous HYMIE TOWN remark with regards to NYC…..
Familiar…..No ?
That’s a lie. The race card was pulled by the Obama campaign after losses in NH and Nevada. Obama needed a way to energize the AA voters of South Carolina, because a loss there would have ended his candidacy. So they used Hillary’s completely correct observation of Lyndon Johnson’s role in the passage of the Civil Rights Acts to call both Clintons racists.
Please, your stale BS is perfectly welcome at many other sites, where thirsty Obamabots drink it up and ask for more. It won’t fly here.
Bingo. That was the next thing that happened after Bill’s “fairy tale” remark,which referred to Iraq. It had nothing to do with race, but they need the Card for South Carolina, mainly because Obama knew the AA community loved the Clintons–in spite of their current amnesia.
Oh, and remember when uncommitted (sic) superdelegate Donna Brazile took megaginormous umbrage, “as an African American,” at Bill Clinton’s allegedly racist “fairy tale” remark?
If she can say that, then as a Garlic-nosed American, I take offense for Brazille siding with the racist Obama. And we can and have proven Obama is a racist. Those hypocrites have some nerve.
Agree with you on that…..But then again I’m just a stupid Working Class Mick Cracker who belongs to the BABYLON WHORE CULT…..chuckle…..
At least we were lace curtain Irish ( middle class or employed )
instead of shanty Irish ( unemloyed )
>>> The race card was pulled by the Obama campaign after losses in NH and Nevada.
We policed his ass up here in the Silver State.
You’re welcome.
Hi Jeannie,
We’d be happy to debate you (unlike your candidate) on every point you’d care to make about Hillary’s “slimy” campaign, with specific references in defense… but you must do the same.
If you are respectful, you will be treated with respect here.
Please state, and prove, your case.
You are a nicer person than I am PMS. I don’t welcome people like Jeannie. They have dozens of Pro-Obama blogs that they can go to and toot his little horn to their heart’s content.
Why come here? Why toss her sad little Obama talking points into the middle of a conversation of which she seems sadly ignorant?
She and other trolls are simply attention whores. They probably aren’t very popular or noticed much on the Obama blogs and so must try and throw a turd in the middle of our living room to get some attention.
If she really had something to say, other than tired talking points, she might be worth listening and interacting with. She doesn’t and therefor to me, she isn’t.
But like I said, you’re a nicer person than I am.
Right.
Conveniently forget the “D-Punjab” remark by the Obama campaign to describe Sen. Clinton’s meeting with people from India and Pakistan. That was last summer.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/19/news/obama.php
You know, the comment Sen. Obama later apologized for:
“It was a dumb mistake on our campaign’s part, and I made it clear to my staff in no uncertain terms that it was a mistake,” Obama said, referring to the memo as “unnecessarily caustic.”
Wow. He sure makes a lot of dumb mistakes, doesn’t he?
And lets not forget Jessie Jackson Jr’s comment after New Hampshire. Saying she didnt cry for Katrina Victims…
There were no comments about the fact she won, just how the media and other bobbleheads percieved her win.
You know what, Jeannie? Barack is the black candidate. That is the reason why he gets anywhere from 80-90% of the black vote. I don’t begrudge his black support because it IS WHAT IT IS.
Now, please comment on why the black vote has bought into the absurd accusation that the Clinton’s are racists. The person playing the race card has been Obama all the while. Isn’t it ironic that your post-racist fab candidate attended a church in which it’s pastor was spouting racist garbage from the pulpit, and it has taken Barack Obama all this time to finally break with Mr. Wright (even though I don’t believe it is a true break)? Yet, the Clinton’s are accused of being racists, while Barack’s apologists allow him to slither away, as only a snake can, free to attempt further character assassinations of the Clintons. I am sick of Obama’s duplicity, and the way that his supporters view Hillary as a villian in this nomination race. Barack is getting what he deserves because it is true that what goes around comes around.
“please comment on why the black vote has bought into the absurd accusation that the Clinton’s are racists. “
This is the part that bothers me as an AA. It’s like they had to trump up a reason, an ugly one at that, instead of just stating support for a candidate based on the issues. Why was that so hard? I will never forgive Obama for playing the race card and the AA community for falling fo it hook, line and sinker.
I don’t understand this either. As a white man, it appears that AA’s are hurting themselves in the process of supporting Barack. Whites are expected to not vote on skin color. Why are blacks not expected to do the same thing? Where is the political maturity of this voting group? I assume that many in the black community believe Barack had enough support to pull this off. It seems that many of them could care less about the corruption in his background, his inexperience, his unimpressive legislative background, his lack of a well enunciated platform other than the word “change”, his hypocritical stance on politics as practiced today, and his questionable relationship with a pastor who anybody with a fair bone in his or her body would realize is a ranting racist?
I have no problem voting for an AA for president, but please nominate one that doesn’t have the ideological profile of Barack Obama. Barack is everything that he says he isn’t. Never have I witnessed someone who has sullied the very essence of the meaning of what it is to be a Democrat. He is a politician with the ugliest inclinations. I cannot imagine him as a president of this great country.
the unprincipled trashing of the clintons is at or near the top of my list of reasons i will never vote for obama. i would rather he had just come out and said that all african-americans should vote for him because of the color of his skin and that every aa polled or exit polled said yes it’s race-based/a pride thing.
at least i could respect the honesty. but obama wants to pretend he’s post-racial, which he clearly is not. hypocrisy is disgusting. and trashing a respected former president and first lady (of the same party) is disgusting.
i can’t stand the man, and my view is hardening every day. how he and the party leaders in his pocket can believe we will come around is beyond me.
Imho…..This is the only way strategically that Obama could cut into Clintons base…..The basic principal of devide and conquer……
The Clinton/Gore administraton ( especially Bill Clinton ) was very popular among all minorities. Obama had to find a way to split the support of AA’s ( which was splitting along gender and generational lines ). There is no better way to unite a group than to accuse the opposition of an ideological crime. The irony is that the candidate who is running a fairly routine ID political campaign is illustrated in the media as running a type of New Political Campaign. It is a fallacy. The Media has become farcical. Obama has reduced his own candidacy to being one based almost entirely on racial status. It is this obvious HYPOCRISY that has alienated him from middle america….In preparation the student Obama studied Bill Clintons speeches in order to appeal to AA’s and Crackers….He should have studied Sen. Clinton more closely. In many ways hers is also a campaign with ID politics except that she has been very subtle in it’s representation and not allowed her gender to dominate her campaign. She is the first Woman poised to be one of two presidential contenders and yet in the primaries this has not been the focus of her campaign. She has handled the gender deftly and I admire her even more for it.
ehemm…Ut sementem feceris ita metes…..
Translation : As you sew will you reap…..
Omnes tongo feces sunt,
“Everything I touch turns to shit.”
Correct me if I’m wrong. Tenth grade was a long time ago.
Fred……I’m very rusty but that looks right to me…..
Tis fun……No ?
I enjoy hurling juvenile insults at the trolls….The Romans raised insulting to a high art form…..
Noli nothis permittere te terere…..
( Don’t let the Bastards get you down )
* If a latin professional shows up here they would be highly entertained at my inadequacy *
Quisque comoedus est………No ?
( Everybody’s a comedian……No ? )
Bill’s comment was accurate. Black folk adored the Clintons for years, and 5 minutes after an unknown Obama entered the race, some 90% of black people voted for him. It’s more than fair to ask why. And I know why you can’t understand that. You’ve been hypnotized by a deep voice, sing song delivery, shallow rhetoric, and a media smear campaign that’s dumber than ever.
All Bill Clinton was pointing out was that Jackson also had won big in SC, next to Jackson was actually Clinton himself who won big. But it would have been not so modest to say I also won big. This was giving Jackson credit which he richly deserved. Instead of taking it at its face value, you guys made a big issue of it. Of course, media played along and amplified it. You guys look for slime everywhere with your slimy hands and you slime everything as well — you do that because your guy does not have the resume to win this nomination fair and square. Did you watch Hillary on Bill O’? Now, that is how you take on Fox. Not like your waffles candidate.
your candidate and his campaign plus that snotty hateful michelle have put hatred, meaness, and racism into this campaign. two aa’s ran in 2004 and jesse jackson ran with the rainbow coalition. and NEVER EVER DID ANY OF THEM BEHAVE WITH SUCH UNPROFESSIONAL BEHAVIOR AS OBAMA AND HIS SO CALLED SUPPORTERS. take a hike!
The idea that the Clintons played the race card defies logic. In Oct 07, Hillary was winning 60% of AA voters, now she’s getting about 10%. It would have netted them a negative 90% loss of support among a key group for any Democrat. It simply makes no sense. Plus it’s not who the Clintons are. They are committed to racial reconciliation. The idea is absurd.
The Obama campaign/supporters have been manucacturing racial outrage out of non-racial statements by the Clintons all along. Based on that, it appears that the Obama campaign/supporters are the racists.
I suspect that a lot of Bill Clinton’s outrage during this whole campaign has been over being tarred as a racist. He’s not, anyone with a brain know that they are not, and yet it’s one of those nasty smears that never goes away once applied.
I also wonder if in the long run this was not a mistake. How many voters are going to want to hear “race” interjected” into every line that someone speaks.
I don’t give a rat’s butt about the color of some-one’s skin. No one with the brain of a gnat does. But I do care when the rich get richer and the poor get screwed. Those of us without much money are all in that leaky little rowboat and the water coming in doesn’t much care what color our damn skin is. Ain’t none of us gonna float.
Bill Clinton’s outrage is typical of a man of superior intellegence…
Obama and his idiotic cohorts are literally shooting the democratic party in the foot. By attacking the only legitimate argument that the party has to answer the GOP ( the only sucessful democratic administration since FDR )
It is a STUPID AND COSTLY MISTAKE.
Bill Clinton is a brilliant politician who is a big picture sort of fella.
The New Left is taking away the best weapon the party has and that is the record of the Clinton/Gore administrations……
They are attacking the centrist platform and that is just plain stupid.
But then how else canObama atempt to win…..What does he offer ?
Experience ( NO )….A distinguished record of national public sevice ( NO )
Wisdom ( NO )…..This Obama is a LIGHT WEIGHT !
That is what is so deplorable…..
incredible what campaign have you been watching
must be the MSM campaign for Barry O ..Yupper another obot that sees the throngs of people rallying around him for what he has done in his district in Chicago when he was state senator..11 bldgs in his district rat infested no heat etc etc shabby workmanship from his friends construction company name Rezko ring any bells to you people and the kickbacks that will be coming out with that
one fib *LIE* after another..from poor teenage mom his mom was in college and met his dad there..In Hawaii not in Selma at MLK march..His dad didn’t come over here on Kennedy scholarship as it took place after his dad was already here..
How about your wonderful candidates associates
Rezko..Ayers..Auchi..Said..Wright..need we say more for your wonderful candidate who is imploding from within..
Can’t tell these stories that don’t match up with what you have done in real life..
I see no people that he has helped personally as community organizer..community lawyer..pushing contracts out the door to friend Rezko then on to state house to again who did he help but, his wealthy well connected friends that he seemed to pick up along the way..the only ones helped in the Obama public policy seems to be the Obama’s nice southern mansion in Hyde Park..yepper those poor folks who lived in the rat infested buildings in his district that he seemed to never NOTICE that something was wrong..never once tried to correct anything but, take advantage of his charism to charm people and move straight up the money tree ..connecting with people to push an power ego right to the run for highest office of our land..
ONLY PROBLEM IS HE DOESN’T KNOW WHO HE IS..
IS JEREMIAH WRIGHT his ADOPTED DAD, LEAVING HIM (BARACK) BELIEVING IN ALL THE BAD THINGS USA HAS DONE AND ACT LIKE NO PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE IN THIS COUNTRY ..I believe he and his wife really were caught up in his message r they wouldn’t have sit in the pews listening to such messages and teaching their children the same hate filled against fellow Americans…How can a country heal when we have such preachings sanctioned as being the norm..
I am a veteran and when I was in service I attended a couple black churches with some friends yes they were loud but joyful and never did I hear this ..
So again don’t know who this Barack is and WHERE he wants to lead this country and the world as he says..I don’t know what kind of theology he believes in..with associates like Ayers..Khalidi..
the lectures he was involved with the Anneberg society doesn’t sound cosher so again
I am saying go Hillary as the dirty campaigning accusations the Obama camp better look in the mirror and check their internal memos etc that will tell you all you need to know as to WHO PLAYED THE RACE CARD..
Ask Rep Meeks about what was said in South Carolina he was right there when President Clinton answered that question asked by the press and he saw nothing wrong with answer given…So if Rep Meeks an AA standing right there had no problems I don’t know what the problem was or is with Obama than whine whine every time he is called on something..
Yeah bamboozled hoodwinked code words..
I cannot vote for this man I will write in my candidate if Hillary for some reason is stripped of her nomination for president of our country…Someone who could restore Americans standing in the world and get our country back on the RIGHT TRACK..
So onward to victories in NC and IND..then on to KY Mon SD Or..just keep the victories coming Hillary will win with popular vote and the wind at her back..Count Mi andFl she wins delegates too..
Keep the wins coming Hillary we got your back and will be making another contribution soon..
women vets for Hillary
concerned American
Baloney Jeannie,
what exactly did Clinton say? He said that Obama won SC because of a large AA population. Every pundit, the OBama campaign and probably you said the same thing/ If you didn’t you are not very bright because here we all are again talking about how Obama is going to win NC because of the large AA community. EVERONE is saying it including BARACK OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN.
now how exactly did Bill Clinton offend your delicate sensibilities by saying the the same thing you and everyone else was saying?
I thought Oblamer was in a tizzy over “fairy tale” since he’s such a homophobe!
Glen Beck is wall to wall Reverend Wright. He is playing larger portions of the sermons from which the snippets are drawn.
It is not a good night to be Barack Obama.
I just caught the tail end of a segment with a gentelemen who appears to have been reading this blog!
I married into a Jewish family 28 years ago, and I have never Once heard any of them talk about the holocaust, what was done to 6 million Jews, what the world owes them because of it, or their hatred of ANY people. Why is it that many radical blacks continue to perpetuate the notion that all blacks are entitled to something from “the man” for all eternity because of what was done to their ancestors??? And now Obama wants to take away from hard working middle class whites and give to blacks in the interest of “fairness”! The fair thing would be for all blacks to realize that the very radical blacks, like Wright, Jackson, and Sharpton, are getting rich off the backs of the blacks who they perpetuate this myth to.
Good post Bud. I went earlier to a link posted to the chicago sun times about a Rezko story and I paused to read a column by a Jewish woman about the cultural links between AA’s and Jews. When I read the comments at the end of her column I was amazed at the vitriol coming from many AA’s about Israel and the treatment of Palestinians. There were comments from Jews who felt betrayed by the AA’s because they were being blamed for what is happening in Israel. It seems that wherever Obama goes he sews the seeds of rancor.
Given the historic interaction between both groups in the past this is just sad.
Obama is no uniter he is a devider. Given that his entire exposure to both AA politics and Christianity is through a man like Wright it is not surprising that many distrust him. The Working Class has a good nose for this sort of thing.
They live in the real world…..The left lives in an idealogical world….
It is a powerful statement of character when the folks claiming to be above race turn out to be the biggest abusers. Beyond Obama’s character issues in this regard, his supporters are among the most vicious racists I’ve read online.
Among many blogs I regularly read and post comments at is TPM and, yes, I find that nearly every critique of Obama is responded with derogatory and offensive insults, often based on race. It is both tiring and enlightening to be accused of being a racist simply for supporting Clinton and, even more blasphemous, stating that I will opt without hesitation for McCain if she does not secure the nomination.
I wish the people in IN and NC vote without thinkin about race. Blacks are voting 88% plus for Obama .. is this fair?
IMO blue collar whites are going to Hillary because of Obama’s screw-ups and Wright. Obama is alienating working class whites big time.
Overall though, the Democrats are bleeding white working class voters in the GE. In 2000 Gore got 33% of their vote, in 2004 Kerry got 23%.
And when you see how little Democrats do to appeal to this demographic segment you see why as well. Nor do I see any reversal of this trend.
As for the race and indentity politics angle, most of it is coming from Obama surrogates in the blogosphere like Marshall, big orange, Sirota, the Huffpost Hollywood snot set, etc.
The Obama campaign/supporters say that they don’t need middle-class white voters. Idiots.
yes, the lack of understanding of basic math makes me worry about our educational system.
Sort of likt that officer at the battle of Spotsylvania (Civil War, I think). His last words were (approximately) “Don’t be ridiculous. They couldn’t hit an elephant at this dist-”
like, not likt. It would be nice if I could spell.
“I’m ashamed of you, dodging that way. They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance.”
GEN John Sedgwick, USA, 9 MAY 1864, Battle of Spotsylvania Courthouse.
Another example of the quality of Confederate marsmanship.
One good thing about the Wright mess is that it proves racism is not just a white problem. We all have a lot of work to do before we get to where we should be. I don’t believe Barack Obama is the one who can lead us there.
*.ism’s are everywhere, sexism, racism, ageism, etc.
We were making great strides towards ending them until Obama showed up to rip open old wounds that were making great progress towards healing.
*.ism will end when they end in our hearts. This is a slow process and takes generations. Hillary will help lead us back as will some of our other real leaders to where we were pre-Obama, now known as “P.O.” As an aside, that’s fitting, since he has P.O.’d (pissed off) the entire nation.
I have an analogy albeit a crude one but it illustrates the generational concept:
At on point in human societal evolution cannibalism was no longer practiced, except under rare circumstances of survival, insane people or severely isolated cultures. Society en mass determined it was unacceptable.
At some point *.ism will no longer be acceptable. In the future you won’t find a Reverend Wright or a Barack Obama peddling the snake oil of divide and conquer of peoples — that type of behavior won’t be tolerated by society because it won’t be in people hearts and way of thinking.
I think Hillary will be a good start towards the type of human society all peoples crave and deserve.
What is so very sad about all this “ism” — is that the source is Obama — who GREW UP IN HAWAII.
But he managed to grow up in the very affluent part of Hawaii — still he did attend high school where it other affluent mix race kids went — plus lots of haole (white) kids. I believe for Obama it is really about CLASS — as in MONEY. Who has the money. Surely he could see in Hawaii that if someone of color had lots of the green stuff — the skin color didn’t matter.
I feel fortunate to have grown up and gone to school in Hawaii — up through Jr. High. I had Asian teachers, Hawaiian teachers, white teachers and two very mean racist black teachers. They hated white people — one can only speculate why these two hated white children. Their brother was not a racist and was one of the kindest encouraging teachers I’ve ever had. I learned very young that racism is stupid and it wastes energy.
Obama had the opportunity to teach us something — but he is too focused on his own demons — his “isms” to be of any use to move us forward as a nation.
We’ve had over 7 years with another immature, self centered man-child who has lots of demons (with a mom like Barbara - shivers — yeck). It is ironic that the Dem leadership is now putting forth a similar sort of JERK.
Really Hawaii is far better than Obama — Patsy Mink was from Hawaii — and she was a fantastic person who left us too soon.
I very much enjoyed your comments.
I learned very young that all the “isms” were stupid and a waste of energy — growing up in the 60’s and 70’s with my mom of Polish/Jewish descent and my dad of Italian descent. When they got married in the 50’s a mixed-marriage was frowned upon. They set the example for me that differences were to be celebrated not scorned. Diversity is a wonderful thing!
I did not pick my wife because she is “black” (she is actually biracial like Obama, in her case Filipino and black). My criteria was “nice warm empathic intelligent human being” with “race” not mattering.
Seems you and I were blessed by being exposed to diversity. Obama has taken diversity and has tried to exploit it. I suppose I am just as biracial as Obama, but am considered to be a “typical white person” by Obama.
By the way, I’ve taken my upbringing and background and have tried to make the world a better place. Obama seems hell-bent on destroying the world and profiting from its destruction in the process. This is profoundly sad. He is a child in a sandbox who appears to hate the world seeking control over a nuclear arsenal.
Jeremiah Wright seems to have had almost the exact same educational opportunities as Barky and is trying to do the very same things.
Self-loathing? Since there sadly is real discrimination (which I abhor obviously) in this world, do you think self-loathing is part reason for their hostile behavior? The difference between Wright and Obama is at least Wright is honest about his hostility and tells us with this words. Obama hides his hotility with insincere flowery rhetoric but his race-bating and fear mongering campaign tell us otherwise. Seems the two men are just flip sides of the same hostile coin. I think profiteering from driving a wedge between peoples also factors in.
Obama is hallucinating if he thinks we don’t connect his fake public image with the real Obama which manifests through the actions of his campaign.
Agree…..The truth is it is part of Human Nature to be tribal.
In this country because of the consitution we have the opportunity to use the foundation of the Enlightenment to avoid the dominance of tribal things.
Socrates ( my hero ) died for the conviction of practicing his principles…The Unexamined Life Is Not Worth Living….
Constantly confronting ignorance, bigotry , hypocisy, in our own very human natures is the path to humility and according to Socrates…. Wisdom….
Obama has not studied those philosophers of the Universal Truths that transport the human soul towards the devine….
He has instead chosen the mecanics of expediancy….
Machiavelli…..Perhaps……No ?
I think the bottom line is some people try to make things better and some people try to make things worse. The people we need to be the most wary of are the stealth destroyers, the wolves in sheep’s clothing, like Obama that pretend to want to bring change but in reality just want to fatten their wallets and egos.
Cave quid dicis, quandro, et cui….
( Beware of what you say, when, and to whom….)
Obama is headed for Political Oblvion anyway you cut it.
No ?
Psychologists tell us that the child is formed by time he or she is three.
In Barky’s case, the father had gone and the mother’s people did not resemble him. Heaven knows what messages he heard, but he tries to assure us that he and he alone can rise about race and make us one and yet his deeds (and words) defy that claim.
In Wright’s case, the interrupted higher education for the military may say something about his self control. He attended better schools than those in his immediate neighborhood so may have heard some taunting and needed to grab on to his own street creds just as tightly as Barky.
Perhaps they understand each other as only two misfits can?
Hmmm….Interesting points you make….
I definitely think that Obama is exposing a serious conflict with his INNER CRACKER……
In Wrights’ case I think he is engaged in the politics that suits his temperment…..
Once he discovered Cone and Liberation Theology why he could have it all….Invent a religion to re-enforce his absolute DEMOGOGUERY….
And like most demogogues he exploits the ignorance of his followers…
In this he and Adolf Hitler have much in common…..
Mendacem memorem esse oportet….
( It is fitting that a liar should be a man of good memory )
Very true….Lucinda
Excellent post, Bud. You do a great job of describing the neo-Liberals’ losing agenda–one that I think Joe Andrew is amongst. (i had fun writing him a nasty letter today).
I recommend listening to the NPR’s All Things Considered interview today with AA ministers about Rev Wright. Surprisingly critical of Wright.
Whatever it takes to win?
Bush, and Cheney think that way, one would almost say the same philosophy was used in Iraq, and by that logic, torture, and white phosphorus were introduced, as brutality was also necessary to win, but, um, didn’t, in fact it further broke Iraq apart, creating unintended chaos, giving our enemies greater ground by which to game the presidential morons.
In reality those methods backfired, right?
Because “whatever it takes to win” means “I’m too stupid to play by the rules, and therefore can only win if I cheat, a belligerent, non thinking fool who others can take advantage of, because really, I use old methods of propaganda, methods that were beaten by the US government years ago. But I’m too stupid to understand. Vote for me.”
I mean, think Dick and George could end up in the Hague? They lost three wars, if you count the decline of the US, and they did everything they could to win, justifying simplistic violence, and degradation, but still losing, as did the US. In part, because they were gamed by others, brighter people who preferred to respect the law, the constitution, and hold them to a civil code.
Patrick Fitzgerald, anyone?
You know why we obey the law? Because, in the long run, it works. Justifying the means as a way to the ends is simply a short term fix, period, it will not sustain a victory.
Ever.
Those who cheat cannot sustain a victory, the talent and the brains aren’t there. They don’t’ create methods, they destroy them, and once their opponent surmounts them, the cheaters lose, again, always playing eternal catch up.
The United States is not a catch up nation, Iran is.
So that’s a lot of crap, weak justification for cheating by the least talented candidates, the PR presidents (and god help me, they remind me of the puerto rican “gangs” my father would have living around the properties he owned in Chicago, they’d squat, literally, in neighboring buildings, disrespectful vandals, who would eventually destroy any property they inhabited. Three buildings had to be knocked down in the block where my father owned property, due to those gangs. Same arrogant attitudes and disrespect as Cheney, Rove, Axelrod and Obama, and any given PR firm. Which is NOT indicative of Puerto Ricans, just the Peurto Rican gang bangers on the North side of Chicago.They weren’t fierce, they were pests, and treated as such.) I think less dog whistle, and more dog chasing it’s own tale.
And an Obama who deals with terrorists, and would drive the US even further down the toilet, if elected, is not a winner, is not a man who can lead this country to greatness, he will govern the way he campaigns, like a moron, too stupid to play by the rules, too stupid to compete, fairly. Always the short term fix, because he’s too stupid ot understand policy. The Fed cuts anyone? How about a surge? Let’s drill Alaska? Job creation? Just give them a tax rebate…get it?
Anyone who uses that phrase as a justification for cheating is not a thinker, or needs to dig a little further.
All that phrase really means is “I”m a stinking idiot who can’t figure out any other way to win, other than throwing a temper tantrum. When the hard decisions , the thinking needs to be done, well, don’t look at me, if I can’t smear it, I lose.”
Again, critical thinking skills are lacking, as is intellect.
If Obama is allowed to get away with this race baiting it will be used again and again in the future until it destroys what is left of the Democratic Party.
The democratic party?
Oh,no, the United States.
Obama is an intellectually inferior candidate, as is Bush.
The rules and laws we have are there for a reason, everything from the “fairness doctrine” to the hate crimes law. What consequence does Obama’s “strategy” have on the greater function of the US government?
My goodness, Russia couldnt come up with a better plan to destroy the US culture internally. Fortunately, as during the cold war, Russia could never come up with anything that actually worked.
As with the Constitution, the laws I mentioned earlier were reasoned before sociologists and political scientists understood WHY they were effective in sustaining, and nurturing the great Unites States of America. “Divide and conquer” fifty plus one? All losers. Didnt it occur to them the Pentagon had gamed this as part of war theory? No, it didnt, which should tell you everything you need to know about Rove the “genius” and Obama, the what, “even bigger genius?”
This isn’t just the democrats, or even the republicans, this is the greater US society we are speaking of, being used against itself so a bunch of half wit PR people can put a moron into the Presidency.
But those people are dumber than a brick, every last one of them.
if obama made it to the wh, racism and dog whistles is all we would hear for four dreadful years.
Bud White is my hero. Plus he’s got a really nice bod.
As African American woman, and I consider myself fairly intelligent and critical (I may be wrong), I have been observing with consternation the evolution of this campaign. I witnessed the great fiasco of 2000, and the subsequent one in 2004. I considered them both “coups.” Even seeing GWB remain in power for 8 years while destroying completely the country in almost every way, I told myself that in any banana republic, there would have long ago been an uproar.
Now, with regards this election, I see that some folks have learned a lesson about “democratic” coups, and are indeed attempting one. It’s not that subtle, but open discussion is discouraged. The Press has become an instrument of propaganda and manipulation, destroying some, shielding and promoting others. A certain segment of the population thinks that the Presidency is their due, and are willing to kill for it. They will disparage, intimidate, blackmail and strongarm any opposing view. Rational criticism is discouraged, reverse racism is deployed to intimidate and confound. The result is that race relations would have been set back decades, and one of the least qualified candidates ever risks being voted in at a time when the country is at a most critical junction of its existence. And the person most qualified for the job is disparaged, insulted, and shooed away.
Those aligning themselves behind this “Manchurian” candidate all have their own selfish motives, and hope to manipulate the outcome in favor of their devious and not so devious objectives.
Ndree,
Are you inside my head. For real! We are on the same page. Amazing!
I just spent the day with my aged in-laws discussing Wright. My AA father-in-law is 90 and I try desperately to watch my words, but today, I was at least able to get them to think about a few things. And I think I may have been able to dull some of Obama’s gloss for my mother-in-law. Enough so that I think she will vote for Hillary in the GE should she win the nom. Frankly, I think there’s a good percentage of AAs who will support a Hilllary ticket come Nov., which is why I say the ball is in white America’s court right now.
It will be interesting to see what the black ministers will be saying in the pulpits this Sunday. I have to believe some will at least start to re-examine some of Obama’s methods and what it’s doing to the AA community as a whole. Polls should be taken after Sunday among blacks.
Mimi, it amazes me that so many AA’s are willing to follow Obama off that cliff! Our country is at a critical point in history where we desparately need a COMPETENT president above all else. Obama may be a bright guy, but he’s woefully inexperienced. If, by some miracle, Obama does manage to become president and fails to provide the necessary solutions to lead our country out of the deep morass that Bush has created, can you imagine when the next time a person of color will again be a viable candidate for the presidency? My guess would be that it would not happen again in my lifetime–the MSM would make sure that voters did not forget that the last time they took a chance on someone “different”, it did not turn out so well.
Frankly, I will be surprised if the next president is able to win a second term, regardless of who is elected POTUS in November! Between the war without end in Iraq, the financial meltdown, the mortgage crisis, the country settling down into a full-fledged recession, and heaven knows what other evil surprises await the next POTUS after 8 years of havoc created by Bush and Cheney, it will be a bleeping miracle if the next POTUS is able to do much more than control the damages.
One thing that occurs to me about the Obama campaign complaining about racism from the Clinton campaign is the fact that Shirley Chisholm and Jesse Jackson NEVER made such assertions about their opponents in the Democratic presidential primary being racists, although they probably had a lot more room to whine about racism back in 1972 for Chisholm and 1984/1988 for Jackson. (This is particularly true for Shirley Chisholm since George Wallace was running in the Democratic primary back in 1972 before he was shot.)
The thing that really gets me is that I know in my heart of hearts that Obama will lose throughout the South–and it will not be because all Southern whites are racists either–it will be because Southern whites who abhor racism will reject the racism that has come from the Obama camapign! As one small example, I was talking to my aunt in Arkansas who is a lifelong Democrat and a person that I have never known to have a racist bone in her body. She told me today that if Obama is the Democratic candidate, she will be voting for McBush. I really hate that since I cannot in good conscience vote for McBush. I have another aunt who is a lifelong Republican who voted for Hillary in the primary because she loathes Bush (although she voted for the man twice) and dislikes McBush almost as much because of the damage that the Republicans have done to this country. She told me that she fully intends to vote for Hillary in the general, but that there was NO WAY that she would vote for Obama. In the case of my Republican aunt, I cannot say whether race has anything to do with it or not–she says that her objections to Obama have nothing to do with his race, but then, my uncle is a bit racist so I don’t really know. I’ve also talked to a couple of other Republican friends who have expressed their support for Hillary over McBush, which demonstrates to me just how broad Hillary’s appeal is. But like my Republican aunt, these friends say that they cannot stomach Obama. While Hillary would face some of the same problems winning Southern states that Obama would have, I KNOW that she would win Arkansas handily. And as we all remember, if Gore had just won Arkansas, it would not have mattered what happened in Florida!
I completely agree with you and you said it so well. That this “coup” is happening in the democratic party is what is so sad and tragic. I hope people get enlightened and rational thoughts prevail in the end.
Excellent post. And yes, you are obviously an intelligent woman with a very organized thought process. What you wrote is how I feel.
Thank you.
I think Obama’s constant accusations of race baiting were designed to rally the support of black voters. He doesn’t have anything else to offer them. He’s got no track record of having done anything for black folks, except leaving a handful of them living without heat in Chicago. So instead he exploits racism, knowing many black people will defensively circle the wagons and rally aound him in a gesture of support.
Meanwhile he stands up Tavis Smiley, doesn’t attend the State of the Black Union, critisizes Sharpton about the Bell protests, throws Rev Wright under the bus, and leaves town during the MLK memorial.
Then to add insult to injury, he gives a speech lecturing black parents about not feeding their kids popeye’s fried chicken for breakfast.
They called him the Obamanation in Chicago. The color of your skin doesn’t indicate the content of your character.
What the hell is wrong with popeye’s fried chicken for breakfast? It has more protein and about the same amount of fat as bacon, more protein and less sugar than cocoa puffs or captain crunch? [assuming they are still around.]
A kid who has had something for breakfast, even if it is Popeye’s, is a better student than a kid who comes to school with an empty stomach.
Chic Filet restaurants offer chicken breakfast sandwiches. I like the idea of having another offering for breakfast that is a bit out of the ordinary… and it tastes good, too.
I’m a cracker from the south…..Cold fried chicken for breakfast is an occasional delight ( my momma made an excellent fried chicken ) Jeeeezus…..
I leave for work at 6 AM. My kids eat whatever they fix for themselves. If there is leftover chicken or pizza or spaghetti, it’s okay with me. If it was good enough for supper, it will work for breakfast. As long as they eat something. And it is probably better than a poptart.
On Sundays, whichever kid gets up first gets to choose what we fix for breakfast. One kid always wants french toast, another oves biscuits and grave and one likes pancakes. Pancake boy is kind of lazy on Sunday, so he sticks a note on the refrigerator.
Chicken is probably as good for breakfast as those things. Well, except biscuits and gravy. Nothing is better than that.
stupid is as stupid does! enought said! enjoy your chicken, calories and fat products.
spoken like a true vegan snob ?
popeye’s chicken sounds pretty good to me, for breakfast or whatever.
if a white candidate made the same comment, she or he would be forced to withdraw immediately. i guess obama can use stereotypes. surprise!
cy
But more so, it is a deliberate tactic, the ones inferior candidates use to get elected, “lets divide the population, and then sneak into the White House” garbage that backfires, without fail. And they’re too stupid to figure out why. But given other innocent people, and the nation, have to suffer for their stupidity, it needs to be exposed, and eradicated.
Gonna start a war, flush the FED, inadvertently destroy New Orleans, and a part of New York, Iraq, Afghanistan, the US manufacturing base, US power, and goodwill, something of which you didn’t intend, and don’t understand the greater ramifications of? What are the contingencies? Don’t know? Do you think you might have been set up, that never occurred to you, the US has enemies, YOU have enemies? So if you can’t see this, how can you make your grandiose fantasies come true? More PR, more Karl Rove? How do you sustain yourselves, PR boys? Are you smarter than your enemies? Guess so, if you feel you can bamboozle the nation, so arrogantly. And Obama is lil Bush.
Talk to Dick Cheney, his head is up his ass, too, somewhere between Altoona, and Oakland, I guess.
I don’t believe Obama is intellectually inferior, but is running a campaign that recognises his weaknesses and attempts to overcome then. Since he can’t compete based on accomplishment vis a vis Hillary, he resorts to noise to mask her advantages. But implying others of being racists is way beyond noise, and brings one to question Obama’s fitness to be president.
Obama is intellectually lazy……and it is obvious…..
If I hear him say this one more time I will puke: “In no uncertain terms.”
He thinks his “mastery” of the English language equates to intellect and wisdom. And to your point he is clearly intellectually lazy, and “in no uncertain terms” I’ve never heard anything substantively original come of out of his mouth.
Agree……But then again pablum does not have to be clever or fresh….
No ?…….chuckle…..He is speaking to a target audience…….
Amazing how intelligent the working class can be……
Barack Obama dare pondus idonea fumo…….No ?
( Barack Obama is fit only to give weight to smoke…..No ? )
Bud’s dinner companion said”it is all good politics it shows he’ll do whatever it takes to win”. (Sounds like old politics to me.)
A ha! I thought the whole reason African American voters deserted Hillary & Bill was because of the race card THEY played? Wouldn’t it have been refreshing if people just came out and said they voted for him because he was AA and their vote was a reflection of their pride in him(and the fact he’d be the first AA president)? The Obama’s didn’t have enough faith in their community so they felt they had to destroy Clinton’s reputation with them to garner the 90% vote.
I know people will say but he couldn’t run openly as a black candidate because he couldn’t win enough votes. Guess what black votes have made all the difference along with caucuses(In Ks. some 7,000 votes with 48% going his way gave him a larger delegate margin than Hillary got in some primary states where millions voted).
I was talking to my 50 something husband tonight who has only voted republican once- in 1980! He looked me straight in the eye tonight and told me that if the democratic party doesn’t get its act together he will vote for McCain in november. Forget about classifying him as the white blue collar male .He has an advanced degree in tax law.All this focus on will the women get in line misses all the male voters like my husband who will swing. Granted in KS. it won’t matter but there are many across the river in Missouri just like my husband who will, too.My husband believes strongly in standing on one’s own two feet,experience and grit. He finds Obama lacking in all three. The elites of the democratic party don’t speak for him or for me. Myself I can’t vote for McCain and I won’t vote for Obama because I mean nothing to him.
To say that 30% of Hillary supporters will vote for McCain is probably, for one thing, a low estimate. For another, I would speculate that a good chunk of that percentage have never voted for a Dem before.
Look, the only reason some have come on the Democrat train is to vote for a candidate who has the best chance to turn things around. They have, honest to God, put their country before a Party. Perish the thought!
I have met other individuals who have always voted Republican who are voting for Hillary if she is the nominee.
It irritates me to no end that, somehow, isn’t good enough. The Dems have a real chance at getting a good, qualified candidate in the WH this fall. Hillary is that person.
Oops… meant defect to McCain if Hill not the nom.
On your comment and your correction: You make some excellent observations!
agree that 30% is low. my family have been dems for generations, ever since there were dems. i’ll be casting my first repub vote in many 4 decades of voting if obama is nominated.
also agree that some repubs will be voting dem for the first time ever if hillary is nominated (especially women).
the dem party is being incredibly stupid by not acknowledging these truths. i feel sure that they do know the truth - they just refuse to accept it.
i think they’ve decided to commit general election suicide just to ensure that the left wing of the party is in control instead of the moderate wing. total stupidity. they’ll end up in control of a permanently diminished party.
i won’t be part of it.
Not all blacks feel the same way. Only the die-hard Obama fans. People are realizing now that Sen Obama has a credibility problem.+++++++
Let us pray that the people of NC and IN will be enlightened on Tuesday.
What is GKJM ?
Thank you.
Sorry, I should have explained. Blogger Anglachel calls Talking Points Memo’s Josh Marshall “Guy Who Kidnapped Josh Marshall” because he has gone over the deep in for Obama.
I cannot believe this about myself. I have been watching Fox news for almost a month now. I think they are more fair than CNN and MSNBC in their treatment of Sen Clinton. Just yesterday, I wanted to puke because everything was about the Obama couple. Oh, 10% of the time was dedicated to other news and Sen Clinton.+++
May “karma” befall those who promote injustice !!!
Because their respective masters back the respective candidates.
Talking heads are fungible commodities.
Ustabe before the age of mergers, conglomerates, and multitasking the only things people disliked more than the Democratic/Republican Party was
1. The Republican/Democratic Party
2. Media talking heads
3. Telemarketers
4. Lawyers
5. Pimps
Now it is almost impossible to differentiate.
uh oh, i’m a lawyer. does that mean i can’t agree?
media and pimps - especially agree re this one.
The race strategy of Obama and his campaign is THE reason I would never vote for him … even if he is the nominee. Using race — an issue which is the source of so much sincere pain, regret, and anguish in this country — is beneath contempt. He has wrecked the reputations of two of the best (white) advocates for racial equity that this country has ever known.
And it is EXACTLY the latte-sipping liberals from states with small African-American populations who have fallen hardest for his lie. I know people here on the West Coast with virtually no knowledge of the history of race relations in this country, and these people believe that the Clintons are racist.
Nominate Obama for President? Heck no, I’d lock him up for crimes against the Democratic party and the American people.
Please go over to mydd and recommend this diary, if you can. thanks
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/1/231230/5538
My queastion is why is Obama never seen with AAs in groups.Why does he position white people behind him at rallies.Why does he bus supporters in to make his rallies look bigger and whiter.I know why.What I don’t know is why AAs do not camplain more because he never talks about there issues.He hardly ever acts like their important to him. He barely has any AAs on his campain staff
Hmmmm…….Perhaps it is his serious conflict with his INNER CRACKER….
He is trying to promote the illusion of being a candidate that is all things to all people……
Fallaces sunt rerum species…..
( The appearances of things are deceptive )
the sad thing here is that the aa’s would get more from a clinton presidency just as they did with bill. i am enraged at the blind voting for an empty suit that has never done anything for them and never will. but the worst for me is shameful race baitng. talk about a lack of class! whereas houston’s shelia jackson lee has been a loyal supporter of clinton. she was booed for it. shame!
I think it would have been better for his campaign to have more black people on his campaign staff. If the lack of black input is currently hurting his campaign, then that is good by me!
I think it would have been better for his campaign to have more human beings of any color/type, ones that would never use race-bating and fear-mongering to get him elected.
I hope that black Americans begin to see Obama is the real racist for using them to try to ascend to the Presidency calling the Clinton’s “racists.” Has he ever said so? YES, via his campaigns actions which he has never disavowed. Actions do indeed speak louder than words. Obama can hide behind what he says (the front he puts up) but his actions via the campaign he controls speak the truth of his intent. And it is an ugly devious intent indeed. Fuck you Barack Obama.
I second that Guitarist…..chuckle…in Latin of coarse…
Perite Barack Obama ! Impudnes es leno !…..
( Fuck you Barack Obama ! You shameless Pimp ! )
LMAO!
When Michelle said last fall, “the will get it” it was a really normal kind of thing to say on a subject of Black voters, or so it appeared at the time, as no one had anything else on her to go by.
Then when she brought up “what is it a fairy tale for a Black man to be POTUS” started to really open eyes when it was taken so out of context as to what Bill Clinton had said.
But to most folks who only see snipits on the evening news, it spoke volumes as did the antics that went on in SC proven by the Obama memo to keep the race card going!
Finally Michelle Obama’s thesis came out and bingo, the root of the evil bitch became clear! Michelle is a reflection of Barack, as most couples are in view points for one thing!
Then this week Obama denounces Wright and people are feeling for him, look what he has done to the Black Caucus, the NAACP and a host of other Black groups, used them then threw them under the bus!
Obama used TUCC and Wright for 20 years for self advancement in an area which served his own purposes and nothing more, be supported by the most militant of groups such as TUCC and it helps pave the way for a politician, that was Obama’s need out of TUCC, otherwise why would he have joined that particular church over the thousands of others many he worked with in Chicago, only one reason, his own advantages!
Sorry Rev Wright, at least you hold firm to your fucked up idealisms, but along the way, you were hoodwinked and bamboozled by a slimey politician for his own gains and today you are a hinderance and not of use anymore! You thought you gathered a soul in Obama, but in fact, he has no soul, just asperations for self needs, same reason he married Michelle for, her family provided a need!
Michelle and Barack are despicable human beings for what they have done to the Clinton’s.
They are definately, a few months ago, what did Obama really have besides a speech, nothing!
Bill Clinton called him out on it and his following actions and called it what it was, a “Fairy Tale” and what happened hours afterwards, Michelle injected the race card!
McCain won’t care about that come the fall, so Obama’s only leverage is blank against a McCain!
Part of me hopes Obama wins the Dem nominee, so he will become history after being slaughtered by the GOP, but times are hard now and we need a Hillary in the White House to fix things, 4 years is a long time and Obama seems to have caused more hatred towards the Clintons on one side than the GOP did in 4 years in the 90’s and it will be that much tougher in 2012 for Hillary!
Yes, I’ve thought about getting even with the Obama’s by hoping Barack gets the nomination then gets destroyed by McCain. But revenge is not a wise thing for the reasons you point out plus its just not a wise thing to begin with.
Hey non-snobby non-elitist financially-challenged-thanks-to-Bush-the puppet-of-large-corporate-interests artist, how do you say this in Latin:
The oppressed becoming the oppressor only repeats the cycle ad infinitum…
I think you said it perfectly in our native english but given the spirit of your first sentiment you could add ( ad nauseum )
Caveant ne quid detrimenti respublica capiat…..
( Beware that the commonwealth is not harmed…..)
I have to go to a job site soon. The client is an older female Obama supporter who blares MSNBC and CNN throughout the house all day long….
I SWEAR MY LIMITED IQ’S ARE IN DANGER !……Pray for me…..
You folks at NQ are my solace…..or I swear I’d be doing a Van Gogh stint at the local nut house…..Chuckle…..
I think all creative people and innovators are a little-to-more meshuge.
Bud White I thank you for your artical. Spot on.