Pulpit Fiction: Why Wright is Wrong for Obama and Us
By SusanUnPC on May 5, 2008 at 10:30 PM in Barack Obama, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.
Humor and Harm: It is easy (and appropriate) to laugh at the absurd words of Jeremiah Wright, but it is frightening to consider the harm that those words do. It is especially depressing to know that Barack and Michelle Obama, and their two young daughters, listened to this man’s hate-filled, negative, divisive rantings for years and years.
Today, I spoke with a local citizen, I’ll call him Jim, who lost his 25-year job at a local mill and now must drive a cab to feed his family. All he could talk about was his disbelief that Barack Obama could sit in those pews for 20 years and listen to Wright’s ravings. (As Christopher Hitchens asks in his new Slate article, “What can it be that has kept Obama in Wright’s pews, and at Wright’s mercy, for so long and at such a heavy cost to his aspirations?”)
Jim and a female co-worker said they’re truly afraid to have Barack Obama in the White House, given his poor judgment. They also expressed great distrust of Michelle Obama, who they’ve seen in interviews and disliked immediately. It is therefore interesting that Hitchens suggests that it was Michelle’s influence that kept Barack in those pews for so long. The subtitle of Hitchens’ article is “IS MICHELLE OBAMA RESPONSIBLE FOR THE JEREMIAH WRIGHT FIASCO?”
So: If Jim, a near-destitute cab driver in the Pacific Northwest, and Christopher Hitchens, an East Coast-based affluent and classically educated writer of note, can come to the same conclusion about Obama’s poor judgment as well as his wife’s negative influence, it’s a sure bet that millions of other Americans are also thinking the same thing. It’s also near certain that NOTHING Obama says from now on will affect their apprehensions about the man or his wife.
It seems that everyone gets the problem that makes Obama unelectable
Well except those insulated pundits who cling to their fantasy of an Obama presidency, or those too young to know better. As Charles Krauthammer said today on Brit Hume’s panel, anyone who’s been around the block — i.e., anyone but the very young — knows enough not to buy Obama’s weak and self-serving excuses.
Then, there’s another important topic that has not received sufficient attention, and that is the devastatingly negative effect that Wright’s rantings have had on his parishioners. Laugh at the poster on the left, then consider the harm that Jeremiah Wright has wrought on the psyches of those who’ve heard his divisive rants for years:
From “Jeremiah Wright’s Wider Toll” in the Washington Post by Gary MacDougal, chairman of the Illinois governor’s Task Force on Human Services Reform and is the author of “Make a Difference: A Spectacular Breakthrough in the Fight Against Poverty”:
“It is easy to be outraged by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s abhorrent remarks, whether accusing our country of willfully spreading AIDS or being deserving of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. And, yes, Sen. Barack Obama should have spoken out forcefully much sooner … But Wright has done more, and worse, than tarnish Obama’s presidential campaign.
“Consider the corrosive effect Wright and others like him have on their communities as they rob thousands of listeners of the American dream: hope that through their hard work they can have better lives.
“Imagine getting up each morning to go to work in a society that doesn’t want you, doesn’t respect you and seeks to hold you back. Your spiritual leader has told you this, after all.”
Mr. MacDougal continues:
With powerful rhetoric, Wright has asserted, for instance, that white America sees black women as useful only for their bodies. If this is the message you got from your mentor, would you expect that you could succeed? Would you try very hard, if at all?
Through my work with the Illinois governor’s task force on human services reform and its efforts to reduce welfare dependency, I have encountered misguided community “leaders” like Wright who tell their followers, for example, that the job market is stacked against them and that the jobs that are available aren’t good enough — that they are entitled to more. The underlying message: You can’t win because of who you are, regardless of what you do.
I have attended positively focused black church services, and I know that the Rev. Wright does not speak for a monolithic black church.
This is worth reading in full: “Jeremiah Wright’s Wider Toll.”
It is the most poignant repudiation of Jeremiah Wright that I have read — and I’ve read a few.
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I think Queen Hillyzabeth is wrong for us.
Let me introduce you to her spiritual leader:http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich
Like the saying goes: same shit, different smell.
Your link doesn’t work, Sparky.
Once more incompetence works its way down from the top in the Obama camp.
Who cares about the Obama camp?
Well Einstein, if you plug it in Google it will lead you to enlightment
that’s pretty funny. you come here to sprinkle your nasty dust and it doesn’t work.
pretty much an obamanation trait. but no, his campaign doesn’t go negative, right?
I suspect his brain doesn’t work either.
And its same shit different flies.
At least someone agrees with me (That is Obama and Clinton really, REALLY stink)
Several times I said that I would not vote for any of those turds. Let me tell you why: I have always voted Dem. Until now at least. But since the Democratic Party has proven to be a (at least it’s leaders [AKA members of Congress]) party of cowards. I am so disgusted with them for what they did, as well for what they did not do, that I am changing my registration as independent.
I don’t thinmk it is OK to let them get away with it, and they should lose the general election. at least that way they will know that they have been held accountable, and that their leadership is not accepted.
hey cruz, the school bus is waiting again. i know you are scared of the dog, but make a run for it.
No it is not. You’re exposing yourself as a first time voter. In 2016.
And thank you for the opening, stitch:
The one place the republicans can’t beat Clinton is in a genuine discussion of the issues, they can smoke, and spray and paint and plaster, but they cannot govern.
They have a complete lack of insight into the causes of the problems facing this country, a complete inabilty to acknowledge the truth, or understand the cause and effect, they cannot GOVERN, LEAD or SOLVE. McCain is no more than another PR President, though only marginally better than Bush, Cheney, and Obama.
Again, who is he surrounded by? Small children in suits, the equivalent of the orange, but instead of a latte, we have conservatives driving lexuses.
But the conservative base can only fight with Rove’s AMWAY methods, they cannot solve problems, Clinton can.
People like you are what is terribly wrong with this country right now.
Yeah Blame it on the foreigners. Let me know when you return from Lala-Land
Great to know you don’t have the privilege of a vote. Thank God.
Wrong again. Got dual citizenship, and one of the privilges that I have is to when I want to be an American and when a foreign. Pal, not youre lucky day
Then I go back to my original comment — you and people like you are what is wrong with this election.
You didn’t mean “typical” people like me, Wright?
Well, I might have to console myself in thinking that it is people like you that drove this country down the hill.
so now you’re intent to push it over the cliff? is that your pathetic point? did you have a point? is there a point?
The point is to keep us occupied so we won’t use our time to GOTV. What these people say is always so pointless and uninformed, it’s definitely not to change our minds to vote for BO.
Not yours either, Holmes. Posting on this board violates the terms of your parole. You’re busted, dude. It’s back to cleaning shower stalls and picking up slimy soap bars for you. And you still can’t spell.
hahahahaha
Whew!
Thanks for starting my day with a huge laugh!
I think you are such a little coward who cant use your own name to say what little petty crap comes out of your mouth.
Want to say something to me? Use your own screen name.
naw, i blame clueless, nonthinking, american idol loving, poorly educated americans like you.
1. The story you linked to doesn’t pass the smell test. Its main point is that pro-choice, children-rights advocate, feminist, pro-working women Hillary Rodham Clinton joined a church that opposes all of those things and was not only accepted by that church but reached its highest ranks. More disinformation from the left.
2. Why is it that every time someone raises a question about Obama, his supporters cannot answer the question but must attack Senator Clinton?
In the general election, if Obama gets the nomination, will he still be blaming Hillary when the GOP raise questions about his character?
This should make for a great debate between McCain and Obama. McCain raises the issue of Obama writing letters of support for a slumlord named Rezko and Obama accuses Hillary of being able to write letters.
This should make for a great debate between McCain and Obama. McCain raises the issue of Obama writing letters of support for a slumlord named Rezko and Obama accuses Hillary of being able to write letters.
No. Obama can talk about McCain and the Keating Five. Everyone remembers how much that cost all of us.
Obama can also bring up all of this
Well that ought to more than outweigh Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Hamas, Khalidi, Farrakhan, the Black Panthers, Brezinski and Alsammarae. Perhaps they can play it in an endless loop while the swiftboats wrap Barry up for the political graveyard.
This is typical of the obamabots — they can’t think for themselves and the have absolutely no idea what snObama really stands for — and they don’t know who he really is.
ALL they can do is make up lies about Hillary.
However, the nastier these maggots get we know that snObama will lose again. And then he’ll be complaining again — he didn’t get his “due” — the lazy ass brat who has done NOTHING for anybody but himself.
Rev. Wright is harmful. He is a bad influence on his congregation. I’ve seen this same sort of hatred during the Black Panthers era in the S.F. Bay Area. Kids learned to hate and they learned to be disrespectful of MLK’s message — that was a tough and tense time. And then MLK was assassinated — and some of the Blacks didn’t care — in fact they said some pretty rough things — about how MLK was old and out of touch. I don’t know if these remarks were recorded — but I hear Black teenagers repeat what some of the leaders of the Black Panthers were saying. It was a terrible time — too much hate.
We don’t need to go backward — we need to go forwards. Rev. Wright is looking back and he is hateful and harmful to the young people especially who don’t have a memory of what it was like BEFORE.
Thank you Susan for another helpful reminder that people are questioning Rev. Wright’s message. And if we vote our pocket-book we won’t be voting for Obama. Not with his stable of economic advisers.
Why is it that every time someone raises a question about Obama, his supporters cannot answer the question but must attack Senator Clinton?
Uh - can’t you give us multiple choice instead? LOL
This should make for a great debate between McCain and Obama. McCain raises the issue of Obama writing letters of support for a slumlord named Rezko and Obama accuses Hillary of being able to write letters.
Love it! And he’d be envious of her for that! He never wrote a single article for the HLR! He coasted through his education easier than W!
Barack Obama has no paper trail at all. No paper trail as HLR leader. No publishing or any kind. Even his records as state senator disappeared. None. Zero. Zilch.
Yes. And the sexually insecure MSM won’t touch it. His lack of paper trail that is.
Hell half of them probably have a relative bundling for him.
I forgot to mention that my shit doesn’t stink. But you probably figured that out, didn’t you? I’d like to apologize for being such an A-hole on your site, causing you all to have to scroll through my insane posts.
Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-05 23:59:51
I forgot to mention that my shit doesn’t stink. But you probably figured that out, didn’t you? I’d like to apologize for being such an A-hole on your site, causing you all to have to scroll through my insane posts.
I DID NOT WRITE THIS
I’M OUT OF MY MIND! I DON’T REMEMBER WRITING THIS!
I already mailed Larry. And, I also have the screen shots.
Change my diaper please!
check out http://WWW.ic3.gov Ypou just committed a federal crime when you impersonated me :0)
Register your screen name and get a link.
What I mean is, you should register your screen name using blogger or something. So that it glows blue and others know when it’s you and when it’s not! It happened to me several times and now that I am a blue link, it’s easy to recognize that it’s not me when I am impersonated. Go to blogger.com register as a blogger. You do not have to write a blog, but your link will show up when you put the url in the url line of your identification.
Oh Uppity, don’t help
educatethe trolls.Thank you for the suggestion, but I already have a blogger id.
Thank you so much!
Another Obama Bozo rears his pointy head.
Hey “cruz del sur”, you Bozo, choke on this:
ABC News: The Blotter
Like Clinton, Obama Attended “Shadowy” Group’s Prayer Meetings
April 04, 2008 11:21 AM
Justin Rood Reports:
Stories on the “stealth” ministry of Douglas Coe have been cropping up recently on blogs and online publications, linking him unfavorably to Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.
Comparing Coe to Obama’s inflammatory pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Barbara Ehrenreich wrote at HuffingtonPost.com, “When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she’s a lot more vulnerable than Obama.”
But the story may not be so simple. Indeed, as Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign confirmed yesterday, he has also attended Coe’s prayer meetings.
Coe’s group, “the Fellowship,” reportedly shuns publicity while focusing on ministering to those in power in the United States and around the world. In Washington, D.C., Coe sponsors a weekly Senate prayer breakfast and an annual National Prayer Breakfast regularly attended by U.S. presidents.
Coe’s group has been called “shadowy,” and Coe has made some unusual comments which have raised more than a few eyebrows. In recorded presentations, he has seemed to praise Hitler and other totalitarian leaders for brutally enforcing their followers’ allegiance to doctrine over allegiance to family, and suggesting that was a model for teaching children about Jesus.
“[T]here is something deeply strange about the group,” wrote the Atlantic magazine’s Joshua Green, who has reported extensively on Coe’s Fellowship and Hillary Clinton.
Ehrenreich and others have noted that Hillary has been a regular attendee at his weekly prayer meetings, and spoke warmly of Coe in her autobiography, “Living History.”
But if Clinton has a Coe problem, then it seems Obama would also: a quick call to the Obama campaign elicited a confirmation that the junior senator from Illinois had also attended “a couple” of Coe’s meetings. And, like Clinton reportedly has, Obama spoke at one of the meetings about his faith, spokesman Bill Burton confirmed.
LOL, that’s great, OxyCon! Thanks for putting the Obama-bozo in its place.
I pooped myself.
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1) monitoring or
2) therapy?
GROUP? What say you?
Susan I suggest the Obamatot get generous dodes of thorazine.
And you should know. When did they let you out of the cuckoo’s nest???
Needs the men in the clean white coats!
I thought that this place liked (and let me quote Larry) people that tought for themselves.
Also very surprissed that you, an Administrator of this place, approves the impersonating that just occured.
Monitoring: could care less.
Group therapy: I would not suggest it. You will only waste your time. But if you all want some group therapy that is up to you.
THERE IS NO COMPARISON between Coe and Wright…..
Wright is a Radical Black Separatist who Preaches a FASCIST POLITICAL THEOLOGY…..Obama held Uncle Jerry as a POLITICAL ADVISER FOR 20 YEARS…..THERE IS NO SEPARATION BETWEEN POLITICS AND RELIGION IN BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY…..They are INSEPARABLE…..
i can’t believe they keep on referring to him as a junior senator, he is a FRESHMAN for crying out loud!
Well we know which candidate has the balls and which one’s wife has them. Obama moans that the media is being unfair to him and along comes daddy Dean to once again rescue him by saying that issues like Obama’s pastor do not belong in the campaign and that he negative attacks must stop.
poor baby. I hope that those mean, mean republicans were listening. now he can go back to sucking his thumb.
CRUZ…The Nixon Campaign Dress was appraised on Antique Road Show for $ 600.00 at Net Auction….Hold onto your UNITY BONG and OBAMACULT GEAR…..They might be worth something in 30 years…..
OBAMA IS DESTINED FOR POLITICAL OBSCURITY…..REZKO…AYERS…WRIGHT
If you ever learned how to read, you would already know that I will not vote for him (or her for that matter). Then again, you can not expect cocnuts out of a chicken.
hey cruz, stfu and get your obamanotwanted here arse on over to obama central.
Yeah. I now take orders from you…
If Obama didn’t hear 20 years worth of sermons, it makes you wonder what else he won’t hear if elected. We’ve already had 7 1/2 years of a President who doesn’r hear Intel briefings and scientific evidence; we don’t need 4 more.
And don’t forget that this is the same ass-clown who thinks spending 4 years in a grade school in Indonesia from the ages 6-10 makes him a expert in foreign policy.
By that standard most military brats would surpass Yobama in terms of expertise.
Even Bush wasn’t that stupid and make no mistake he’s dumb as a rock, but Obama takes ignorance and arrogance to a whole other level.
As for Michelle, she’s just a socially promoted miserable bigot who can’t hide her hatred of whites and America.
I can tell you what Obama won’t hear — he won’t hear the the American people as this economy worsens. Obama only cares about Obama and our job as citizens of this country will be to worship this fool.
There is no earthly reason why Senator Obama would have stayed in this church for this long.
Obviously, he has the right to worship where he wishes, HOWEVER, if one is running for President of the United States — one is running to be everyone’s President — not just his/her select cadre of fans. Since Sen. Obama has a painfully thin resume and nothing to run on but his wonderful “judgment” - what kind of judgment is it that would allow him to stay in, and subject his children to, this kind of divisivenes and hate? If he cannot more decisively walk away — how can we trust he will be correct in his judgment or decisiveness on anything else.
In fact, he has shown repeatedly that he would rather throw whole groups of voters under the bus than walk away from his pastor and spiritual advisor. Now he only walks away out of political necessity — and then has the audacity to pretend Rev. Wright has changed — this gentleman has been preaching the same stuff for 20 years. And then Sen. Obama has the unmitigated gall to disparage Hillary’s character and record?
I have had enough lies, thanks you very much. That’s some audacity, all right.
Well…With a memory like Obamas…it kind of reminds Me of OZZY…Maybe that should have been “The Audacity of DOPE…”
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Ehemmm…..Mendacem Memorem Esse Oportet….
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I don’t really care why Obama sat there for 20 years — be it that Michelle made him or that he just did it to get street cred — just the fact that he did it and then tried to deny hearing any of the more intemperate remarks is enough to make me question his suitability to be the Dem nominee.
And Wright’s poisonous rantings did indeed have great potential to cause harm to anyone listening and believing. However (and I know this makes me a bad, bad person), I am truly enjoying watching the Rev. not go quietly under the bus.
Fantastic piece, Susan. If Obama does not get what is wrong with having Wright in his and his children’s lives, he is not fit to be a senator let alone the president of a country. That MacDougal testimony hits the nail on the head. If Obama cannot even understand the ill effects of Wright on his community, how can he be expected to lead a whole nation’s welfare? Something is terribly wrong with this whole picture.
Wright said black children do not learn the same way as white children do. Imagine his young girls hearing that message every Sunday!?
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The last FASCIST REGIME to incorporate this RACIST PSUEDO SCIENCE were the NAZIS….Obama allowed his children to be racially marginalized by Wright in the church and the sunday school….
Larry,
Your argument is completely specious.
Catholics have been sitting in church while priests diddle kids for decades. No one walked out. IN fact, the head poobah was lionized three weeks ago.
The priests’ actions were far more devastating than Wright’s words would ever be.
You just dont want to see a black guy as prez.
They didn’t sit there and listen to the priests glorify kid raping, though. And when they found out about it, they were out for blood. Your analogy is worthless.
And keep the r-bomb mudslinging out of it, dipshit. There’s a dozen reasons to want Obama out of the oval office that have nothing to do with his skin color — and not a single good one to want him in there except for his skin color.
I have NO INTENTION of tolerating a president who I’m not allowed to criticize.
In a GE race of Obama vs. McCain:
The Republicans will just laugh when Obama and his supporters cry (wolf) racism.
Hillary is a scrapper, she’s gonna make it though.
it has nothing to do with skin, but everything to do with his conscious.
Or lack there of, a conscience.
genius.
Attack the catholic church. That’ll get you Pennsylvannia and Ohio and Missouri.
Halfwits.
Exactly! They are not very good at political strategy either. How can they win?
It’s the Catholic analogy that’s specious. So many victims of abuse kept silent for years out of shame, so who knew until the victims themselves spoke up. And then there was absolute outrage. I’m sure some Catholics did leave the Church. But why if your parish priest is innocent of any such criminal behavior, why would you leave?
Again, the hierarcy, the organization failed it’s congregants. But it’s also true that priests weren’t giving sermons glorifying or justifying rape. And I certainly wouldn’t vote for a candidate who stayed and defended a priest who molested a child. Wasn’t Giuliani tight with a priest who had been charged? I seemed to remember some politician was. And I’m not talking about an endorsement. I’m talking about a relationship.
Mimi….I am a Catholic from Dallas….The first of the scandals that became public happened here….The criminal was named Rudy Koss.
The Bishops of Texas worked diligently ( with the exception of the Bishop of Dallas….It took us years to get rid of him…) and instituted a great swath of REFORM that was later adopted by The AMERICAN BISHOPS. In Dallas the Arch Bishop from NJ. ( I think ) actually took over the Dioceses and committed to the exercise of the REFORMS for 10 years.
He is on of my heroes. My daughter went to school in the poorest catholic parish starting in 1995 when this Arch Bishop came to Dallas.
He came back every year to our church to preside over CONFIRMATION of each of th classes. In 2004 when my daughters’ class came of age he came for the last time….The church was packed with the families of every preceding class to welcom this priest….His homily was so moving that there was not a dry eye in the house….He spoke directly of the changes that came in response to the FAILURES OF THE MOTHER CHURCH to PROTECT HER CHILDREN….
The RCC is the Largest Christian denomination in the world and as such we have our own problems. Many Catholics have left the Church and this among other reasons is why….But equally important many have stayed.
We have stayed because our faith is greater than our priests…..
We have Stayed because there are Priests like the one who saved our diocese……We have stayed because we can change for the better….
We have a Pope who is recognizing and supporting these reforms….
The problem with Obama’s pastor is that Obama agrees with his beliefs. So now we know that 2 of Obama’s pals hate this country. Check out Dreams of My Father by the big BO and see what he says about Wright and his various sermons. Obama knows exactly what Wright said and has only now distanced himself because of political expediancy. I have nothing against electing an AA president. I do have a problem electing a guy who hangs with someone who is proud of attacking the Pentagon and a spiritual mentor who says God Damn America. How many more America haters will surface in the next couple of weeks.
Today we find out from the Wall Street Journal that Obama told Teamster’s President that if he endorsed Obama he would stop any investigations of their union. What a guy!!!
yup, even rev wright said it. and hitchens is right on about michelle. that woman is a hater.
Catholics have been sitting in church while priests diddle kids for decades. No one walked out. IN fact, the head poobah was lionized three weeks ago.
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Priest dont ask parishoners to do little kids from the altar. And they certainly dont molest KIDS in front of parishoners.
And many people have left the CATHOLIC church because of it..
GET a BRAIN…
MWR…..THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN WRIGHT AND THE PRIEST SCANDALS OF THE RCC……CATHOLICS DID NOT CHEER WHILE APPROVING FASCIST DOCTRINE…..CATHOLICS HAVE WORKED TO CHANGE THE VERY STRUCTURE OF THE RCC…..THE POPE HAS ADMITTED THE RCC ERROR AND REACHED OUT TO THE VICTIMS…..THE RCC IS NOT A POLITICAL RELIGION…
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS BEEN DENOUNCING THE MARXIST HERESY OF LIBERATION THEOLOGY FOR OVER 20 YEARS…YOU ARE A FOOL.
WRIGHT IS OBAMA’S AYATOLLAH…..HE IS A DEMOGOGUE AND LIKE HITLER A STUPID ONE AT THAT……ANYONE THAT SUBSCRIBES TO BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY IS A CHRISTIAN HERETIC AND A FASCIST…..
LIBERATION THEOLOGY is a CHRISTIAN HERESY…..
It changes the Identity and Earthly Role of JESUS. It reduces Jesus to a POLITICAL MILITANT….Liberation Theology Recognizes NO DENOMINATIONAL OR DOCTRINAL AUTHORITY allowing Each Individual Congregation to interpret Doctrine to reflect the politics of the location.
CONTRA ANYONE ?…..It promotes a MARXIST SOCIO-ECONOMIC SOLUTION and REDEFINED THE ROLE OF THE CHRISTIAN TO A MILITANT SOLDIER….Like All MARXIST PHILOSOPHY it PROMOTES CLASS WARFARE.
BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY adds the POLITICS of RACIAL SUPREMACY.
This is why in the Values System of Wrights Church there is the denegration of the MIDDLE CLASS and Why WRIGHT CONDEMNS AMERIKKKA…..This is why there is an ALLIANCE between WRIGHT and FARRAKHAN…..This is why WRIGHT ATTACKS WHITE AMERICA…..This is why WRIGHT IS ANTI-SEMETIC…..
JEREMIAH WRIGHT IS OBAMA’S AYATOLLAH…..
LIKE THE SHIA FORM OF ISLAM THERE IS NO SEPARATION BETWEEN POLITICS AND RELIGION…..RELIGION DICTATES MARXIST POLITICS…..
THE TWO ARE INSEPARABLE…..AND WRIGHTS DOCTRINE IS RACIST….
i notice the obama trolls are out in full force today. hey mrw, the racists are in wright’s church and obama’s campaign. posters like you did more harm to obama’s campaign that wright.
It’s interesting how people really do feel protective of the actual white house, and similar icons.
Back in ‘04, I was working the phones for the Kerry campaign, and an elderly woman in Ohio said she would never vote for Kerry because Elizabeth Edwards was too fat to be a potential first lady.
That floored me. It was pretty Xtreme. But I could see the same woman looking at strong, almost threatening Michelle Obama worried whether she would be able to effectively hold an easter egg hunt on the whitehouse lawn.
LIz, totally harmless. That voter must have been looking for an excuse.
There are a lot of fools loose on this land. A lot of women voted for JFK because he was ‘handsome.’ But I think it’s safe to say these people make up the minority.
OTH, how does that explain Bush?
It doesn’t. Election fraud explains bush.
Susan,
You are absolutely right about the article link you posted. This is no way to help people lift themselves up. You can’t transform your life for the better if you focus on what’s wrong.
Organized religion is a business. That’s why I gave up on it. After the Black Nationalism of the 60s swept through the AA community, a lot of churches lost their memberships. then during the Reagan Years and also the whole ‘born again’ movement and the emergence of high profile white Christian ministers espousing political points of view from the pulpit with regard to abortion and ‘family values,’ younger black ministers started following suit, preaching black nationalist theology. They are doing what’s necessary to fill the pews, thereby filling their coffers and retire to mansions behind a gated white community. They are nothing but a bunch of self-righteous hypocrites exploiting the spiritually needy.
And it’s true, that the abandonment of poor urban areas by upwardly mobile blacks to the suburbs deprived the black underclass of sufficient role models and evidence of acquiring the American Dream. What’s sad is that in a society where people’s egos need to be massaged, no one speaks the hard truths. And this is true all across the board in all American communities. No one wants to be accountable for their own personal actions anymore. It’s always someone else’s fault. And sure government has failed us, but we are also failing ourselves.
Barack Obama has picked at a festering sore all the while campaigning as ‘the transcendant candidate.’ His own city of Chicago has been a blood bath of black on black murder in the last couple of weeks and he says nothing. Yet some Obamaton on this board had the audacity to lecture me about poverty and ghettos existing even in the Clinton era. He offers no solutions but yet the veiled threat of violence and riots wafts in the air to intimidate the larger white society into voting for him and the SDs into giving him the nomination. I’m more convince now that Obama is the last person who could solve any of the problems that the AA community is facing. He’ll only make it worse, just as he’s doing now.
His whole campaign is a marketing ploy and his supporters are suckers for getting carried away by it.
well said!
MIMI…Very well Said..
And I think of all the Billions of Dollars Bush has wasted and his disregard of Social Issue…Domestic problems..cost of Living..the Burdens on the Poor and Middle class…Tax Cuts for the wealthy…who are HIS Supporters and Who should be Paying for His WAR…
I Believe Hillary is BEST Qualified to be president…Has a History of being sensitive to Domestic Problems, The poor, The elderly, The Uninsured, The Welfare of Children..and Education…and working to improve Civil Rights
and racial Tolerance ..
I think she could quickly put a Good Cabinet together..and hopefully get John Edwards on board…and some really good Moderate African Americans..and work on all Racial and ethnic Problems..in a Very Efficient and Effective Way..
I believe in REAL UNITY..we Americans have had enough Political and racial Division..and we have HUGH Problems to Solve..QUICKLY…
I believe Hillary can do that and even get the Republican support we need to start the Healing Process…
I doubt if Obama will..and the Division will Continue…Lets just concede that Obama is really
“America’s best Liar”…Second only to George W. Bush…
Mimi — excellent comment.
According to Bishop Jackson Wrights’ church reflects 25 % of similar AA churches…..Wright would have us believe that his church is indicative of all AA churches and this is a GRAVE AND DANGEROUS ERROR…..
AA Churches have a rich and important legacy of Political activism and Courageous POLITICAL CRITICISM of our social system…..
I am a Cracker from the South….I have been to traditional AA Christian Churches and always felt OK even in the midst of heavily loaded sermons that were politically critical of our society…..
That is beause the tradition of criticism is not based in the promotion of racial supremacy but the denunciation of all forms of prejudice…..
In these traditional churches…Like Bishop Jacksons’ I would be welcomed as a fellow christian…..In this tradition there is the LEAGACY OF MLK…Who drew Christians and Jews together across Racial lines to fight for SOCIAL JUSTICE…..I’ll take BISHOP JACKSON anyday…..
Mimi-well said. One line in particular reminded me of an earlier time,following the Detroit riots. Mayor Colman Young frequently reminded everyone living out side of Eight Mile Road, that it would be a long, hot summer if the white folks didn’t fall in line. Reverand Wright’s wildest statements have been common conversation in some cities for a long time.
“He offers no solutions but yet the veiled threat of violence and riots wafts in the air to intimidate the larger white society into voting for him. . .”
i also have been to the aa churches. i have also seen other aa politicans run for president. 2 in 2004 and including jackison sr none ever conducted such a divisive campaign. the dim leaders(so to speak) have shown they are limmings for both bush and obama. what a pathetic bunch of no know nothings.
MIMI! There you go again. Posting a comment that should be a post. So I’m going to. You’ve gotta start sending these to me by e-mail, not buried in a huge pile of comments!
Actually, I think Obama’s whole campaign is some big therapy session in which he’s trying to find his inner child or somesuch! His wife is part of his problems, too. Is he looking for both a father AND a mother??? She seems to be equivalent to Bush’s mother Babs!
No thanks! I don’t want this psycho as the nominee!
Gloria — I don’t want this psycho as my nominee either. When I look around me at the real problems facing my state and my community because of this economy and then listen to Obama’s psycho babble I want to scream. The man is a total narcissist. Even when he put Wright down it was because it hurt Obama personally. He didn’t give a chit if it hurt the American people. Now even Howard Dean is doing his bidding by saying that the Wright issue is not part of the campaign and does not belong on the media — any negative ads on this must stop Dean said.
If Obama refuses to grow up fine. Then let him stay home and contemplate his navel. The presidency is for grownups — immature guys in their 40’s need not apply.
I can’t believe it was only a couple of months ago that I thought a Clinton/Obama ticket was a good idea. If Hillary gets the nomination, having him as the VP would be certain defeat now. I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.
simple fact Obama has basically been in the national eye for 18 month and in that time Obama has lied to the American public more than any other political figure in history in such a short span!
From Rezko to Wright to even his own legislation has been consistant lies!
Obama turning down Fla and Mich is the major blow to Democrats losing in the fall if Obama is the nominee along with all the lies which will defeat his new style of politics which Clinton cannot capitalize on but the Republicans will in droves and in force sending Obama continually in fetal mode!
To me a huge component of Wright’s corrosive effects are the voodoo social theory, pseudo scientific themes he cobbled together on the education of AA children. His rant dismisses the logical, reasoning, language and math learning capacities of the brain as not important or the natural venue of AA youth, only the creative, imaginative side of the brain. Amazing racial stereotyping. He also talked about AA youth being loud, noisy, muscular in their school behavior as the way we are as AA’s and that is ok. Totally ignoring the reality that scientifically none of that is true. Totally ignoring that it is just such noisy, chaotic behavior in inner city classrooms that destroy the environment you need to read or do math or think with clarity and long term recall. In other words he and others like him are perfectly willing to tell AA youth, you are not made for the classrooms; you are never going to be a school boy and that’s ok. Play some hoops, make millions as a rock star but don’t see yourself as a scientist, engineer, programmer and on and on. I think this is profound abuse. What are the schools like in the area served by that church?
Wright is promoting the old EUGENICS…..It is a FASCIST PHONY SCIENCE.
The Nazis used it to justify the demonization of the Jews and the Murder of any RACIAL, ETHINC or DEFECTIVE GROUP in the GENETIC CLEANSING of the ARYAN UBER RACE…..
Excellent article, as are the referenced articles.
This article “from across the big pond” is enlightening and very well done as well:
“The illusion that is Barack Obama”.http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23643866-5013948,00.html
Now I understand why Michelle Obama was not proud of her country until the wisconsin primary: she is a black separatist who despises Caucasians.
BINGO !….YOU HAVE WON A STUFFED ARMADILLO…..
and if you wonder why obama won’t wear a flag pin? with pictures of ayers stomping on the flag, there should be no question. our enemies must be really enjoying this.
i have to say flag pins do nothing for me. but when someone makes a big deal about not wering it, i wonder.
I found his refusal to place hand over heart during the National Anthem more telling…..Americans adopted this as a proper standardized custom for all American Citizens to show Patriotism and respect to the Country.
It is a universal custom…..Foreigners are exscused the custom but are still expected to stand…..Obama’s REFUSAL stood out to me and he was as a foreigner to me…..
Obama is basing his campaign on the two issues that are supposed to be forbidden from government: race and religion (”Help, help, I’m being repressed!” is Obama’s theme.)
Poor Obama, my heart bleeds for him. He gets 250 Mill to run for the Presidency. He gets to lie to the American people repeatedly while the media fawns over him — and he is repressed???
For gawd’s sake, stop blaming other people for the acts of an adult. Obama is 48 years old, take away 20 years, and he was an adult when he walked into that church from the first time. I know every child rebels and cuts the cord from his/her parents around the 15th birthday. Did Obama go back to being a frigging child with his wife?
You’re taking Hitchens SERIOUSLY? Look him up at Wikipedia. HE HATES THE CLINTONS! In 1999 he published: “No One Left To Lie To: The Triangulation of William Jefferson Clinton.” O.K. you say, that’s alright. But it was reissued in 2000 as: “No One Left To Lie To: THE VALUES OF THE WORST FAMILY.” Oh Boy, are you gonna love Hitchens if Hillary gets the nomination! You’ll be QUOTING him alright, but not in any affectionate way. Hitchens is a loose cannon that’s pointing directly at Hillary.
Hitchens is a British Writer who is an avowed athiest and an educated critic of religions…..
What can it be that has kept Obama in Wright’s pews, and at Wright’s mercy, for so long and at such a heavy cost to his aspirations?
Uh - Barry’s a cheap whore?
Just a wild guess.
Commenters on NO QUARTER calling Michelle Obama a hater. Ironic, isn’t it?
This is one of the most hateful sites on the Internet.
You can always go to DailyKos. They are really loving there. Why just last week they discussed slitting hillary’s throat and throwing her in a river. I’m sure you will find that more appropriate.
..or was that my DD?
Or try huffpo.
Ooops, I just pulled up the screen shot. Why…why….they discussed slitting hillary’s throat at none other than….MY.BARACKOBAMA.COM. Gee, what a surprise.
Good morning Uppity!
Thanks for your continued authorship and participation in the threads. I have learned a whole heck of a lot in a very narrow timespan from you. And we disagree on some things but manage to focus on our shared ideals and goals. Interestingly, those traits are part of what Hillary embodies — the wisdom to listen yet have strong principled beliefs, disagree but be open to change her mind, come to a consensus with a plan, then roll up her sleeves and get the job done.
Just thought of something, if we unwrap the candidate’s families from their rhetoric. I should point out that Hillary is her rhetoric and Obama is just rhetoric. With that caveat in mind:
The Clinton’s are consensus builders and creators and implementors of solutions.
The Obama’s are dividers and destroyers and will cause problems, not solutions.
Personally, I don’t “hate” Michelle nor her evil husband. But I do “hate” what the two of them have done and continue to do via their actions to America. I “hate” their actions, not them as people. I think the general disdain for the Obama’s and their cronies is being falsely and purposefully misinterpreted as hatred of them as people. I suppose one could call this the “victim card.”
I think both “sides” need to be careful not to paint broad brushes, especially considering the “anonymous” nature of the Internet. I understand the anonymity is superficial, but you get my point — people can be jackasses when they think no one is looking. This common axiom (paraphrased?) applies:
You can judge a person on what they do when they think no one is looking.
Pug, and any other Obamatron who might come here, let me give you something to ponder.
If Bill or Hillary had been members of the KKK for 20 years, had a close relationship with a grand wizard, and never denounced or condemned it (until it was brought to light), would you expect AA’s to forgive them and vote for either one of them? Do you think all white americans should vote for them just because of the color of their skin? Do you think the MSM would let that have a free pass or would they be completely vilified?
Now look at the reverse situation. Obama (still) belongs to a racist organization (his church) that hates and wants to denigrate white americans, but wants those same people to vote him into the highest office in the USA.
He wants (and expects) all AA’s to vote for him because he looks like an AA, and they understand okey-dokey and bamboozle (whatever that means) and if they don’t they are traitors to the cause.
Do you think the MSM should overlook it and say “Let’s just move on” or should he be held accountable to the same standard a white person would be?
go look in a mirror, fellah.
All those primary voters earlier this year were Hoodwinked. Bamboozled.
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Thanks for the post- I believe Wright is part of a huge problem and this article tells it like it is. His ranting and raving does not build his congregation up, it holds them down. How can people go out and improve themselves when their pastor is telling them the “white” system is holding them down?? Victimhood perpetuated- ugly.
The bottom line is this… obama stayed because he LIKED what he heard! The media et al have to stop trying to defend him… Let the feckin whimp TAKE SOME RESONSIBILITY for his words, actions and judgements! Its not about nit wit michelle or the psyhcopath wright… Its about obama and that HE stayed, listened, clapped and revelled in what he heard. There is NO excuse.
Tie all this in with the militant, anti government, attitudes and support for his mind by Ayers etc… Its truly astounding that anyone, especially post 9/11, OK City, and Middle East fiasco, can be so blinkered and naive!
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