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	<title>Comments on: Pants on Fire: Obama Ad Falsely uses Krugman&#8217;s Words Against Hillary</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/06/pants-on-fire-obama-ad-falsely-uses-krugmans-words-against-hillary/#comment-228605</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 13:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are totally blinded by your ideology. The Hillary/McCain plan is stupid, and all of you know it.  When Krugman said it would be a "money circle," that meant that it would have NO EFFECT on prices. It is a gimmick, just as Barack said.  He should know, since he voted for a similar program in Illinois, which failed to make a difference.

Aren't any of you concerned that Hillary has been railing against economists, and the "elite?"  Who is going to advise her on economic issues, then?  This was pandering, plain and simple, and Barack was principled enough to call both McCain and Hillary out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are totally blinded by your ideology. The Hillary/McCain plan is stupid, and all of you know it.  When Krugman said it would be a &#8220;money circle,&#8221; that meant that it would have NO EFFECT on prices. It is a gimmick, just as Barack said.  He should know, since he voted for a similar program in Illinois, which failed to make a difference.</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t any of you concerned that Hillary has been railing against economists, and the &#8220;elite?&#8221;  Who is going to advise her on economic issues, then?  This was pandering, plain and simple, and Barack was principled enough to call both McCain and Hillary out.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Cupples</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/06/pants-on-fire-obama-ad-falsely-uses-krugmans-words-against-hillary/#comment-227510</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Cupples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bee,

I hope you're right.  I just wish the story could have broken before today's election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bee,</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;re right.  I just wish the story could have broken before today&#8217;s election.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Cupples</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/06/pants-on-fire-obama-ad-falsely-uses-krugmans-words-against-hillary/#comment-227504</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Cupples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason that's significant is that Obama falsely claimed that Krugman had slammed Hillary, when actually Krugman had slammed McCain.

In short, Obama's &lt;em&gt;falsely&lt;/em&gt; used Krugman's words against Hillary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason that&#8217;s significant is that Obama falsely claimed that Krugman had slammed Hillary, when actually Krugman had slammed McCain.</p>
<p>In short, Obama&#8217;s <em>falsely</em> used Krugman&#8217;s words against Hillary.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Cupples</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/06/pants-on-fire-obama-ad-falsely-uses-krugmans-words-against-hillary/#comment-227496</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Cupples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope so, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope so, too.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Cupples</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/06/pants-on-fire-obama-ad-falsely-uses-krugmans-words-against-hillary/#comment-227107</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Cupples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 00:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that you may be right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that you may be right.</p>
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		<title>By: beebop</title>
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		<dc:creator>beebop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raising it as an industry to make up for the 18 cents would be very foolish economically and I would think might invite a peak into their practices as it might be an anti-trust violation, but I'm no &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Constitutional Law&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; lecturer myself ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raising it as an industry to make up for the 18 cents would be very foolish economically and I would think might invite a peak into their practices as it might be an anti-trust violation, but I&#8217;m no <strong><em>Constitutional Law</em></strong> lecturer myself &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: beebop</title>
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		<dc:creator>beebop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krugman won't stand still for this.

He's not really someone you want to piss off.  He's no Howdy Dowdy or Rantin' Frank.  He's a wonk and respected.

I can't wait for him to take Snoboma to task for being a typical politician willing to say or do anything to get elected.

Funny how the folks in next door Indiana ain't buyin' it.  So, how many states near and around Illinois &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; voted for Snoboma?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krugman won&#8217;t stand still for this.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not really someone you want to piss off.  He&#8217;s no Howdy Dowdy or Rantin&#8217; Frank.  He&#8217;s a wonk and respected.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait for him to take Snoboma to task for being a typical politician willing to say or do anything to get elected.</p>
<p>Funny how the folks in next door Indiana ain&#8217;t buyin&#8217; it.  So, how many states near and around Illinois <em>have</em> voted for Snoboma?</p>
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		<title>By: bwana</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/06/pants-on-fire-obama-ad-falsely-uses-krugmans-words-against-hillary/#comment-226925</link>
		<dc:creator>bwana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe.  but only if the oil companies don't raise the price of gas 18 cents a gallon.  there's no guarantee that consumers will see any benefit from this whatsoever.

it's a gimmick.  a hollow, cynical gimmick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe.  but only if the oil companies don&#8217;t raise the price of gas 18 cents a gallon.  there&#8217;s no guarantee that consumers will see any benefit from this whatsoever.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s a gimmick.  a hollow, cynical gimmick.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On average it would probably save .90 to 1.80 at the pump for thjose who don't fill up at every stop. 

Now for those who do, would you want fries to go with that order? You'd save enough from a fill up to buy lunch or breakfast if you commute and are in a hurry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On average it would probably save .90 to 1.80 at the pump for thjose who don&#8217;t fill up at every stop. </p>
<p>Now for those who do, would you want fries to go with that order? You&#8217;d save enough from a fill up to buy lunch or breakfast if you commute and are in a hurry.</p>
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		<title>By: yttik</title>
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		<dc:creator>yttik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is mocking the gas tax holiday as if saving people 30 bucks isn't even worth it. His supporters out blogging are really offensive and out of touch, as if 30 bucks doesn't buy 15 school lunches for a kid. Or two cases of top ramen. I guess it's a case of "just let them eat argula!"

This is the same response Obama had to capping the credit card interest at 30%. He voted No, claiming it wasn't good enough. No shit, Sherlock, but it was better then the nothing your "no" vote gave us.

So if you're poor in this country and Obama becomes your Prez, be prepared to wait a long, long time for relief. He won't try anything until the perfect plan comes along. And where do we keep perfect plans? I don't know, I've never seen one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is mocking the gas tax holiday as if saving people 30 bucks isn&#8217;t even worth it. His supporters out blogging are really offensive and out of touch, as if 30 bucks doesn&#8217;t buy 15 school lunches for a kid. Or two cases of top ramen. I guess it&#8217;s a case of &#8220;just let them eat argula!&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the same response Obama had to capping the credit card interest at 30%. He voted No, claiming it wasn&#8217;t good enough. No shit, Sherlock, but it was better then the nothing your &#8220;no&#8221; vote gave us.</p>
<p>So if you&#8217;re poor in this country and Obama becomes your Prez, be prepared to wait a long, long time for relief. He won&#8217;t try anything until the perfect plan comes along. And where do we keep perfect plans? I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;ve never seen one.</p>
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		<title>By: workingclass artist</title>
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		<dc:creator>workingclass artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee Krugman....You just now noticed....Clean the windows of your ivory tower every once in a while.....Sheeeeesh !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee Krugman&#8230;.You just now noticed&#8230;.Clean the windows of your ivory tower every once in a while&#8230;..Sheeeeesh !</p>
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		<title>By: bwana</title>
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		<dc:creator>bwana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'harmless.' 

boy, there's a ringing endorsement.

'harmless' as in ineffective?  inconsequential?  insignificant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;harmless.&#8217; </p>
<p>boy, there&#8217;s a ringing endorsement.</p>
<p>&#8216;harmless&#8217; as in ineffective?  inconsequential?  insignificant?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/06/pants-on-fire-obama-ad-falsely-uses-krugmans-words-against-hillary/#comment-226902</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it certainly saves little money for all of those Americans who get one gallon of gas at a time and thus don't notice that eighteen cents.

So Obama's economists may be right.

However, discretionary spending for other items would still occur in light of savings for gas, we're talking about 11.5-13.5% taxation rate there. Oh, the economy also drives more items, less shelf life, etc.

So it still gets a return on similar numbers in efficiency with regard to generating revenue, only this revenue spreads across more markets than just the oil producers.

Let's take Exxon's word for it instead, and keep paying an extra .18 per gallon. Every cent gasoline reduces in price adds a billion a day to our macro economy.

That's eighteen billion a day Hillary's proposal would put back into the economy. That money would be taxed at a sales rate and help demand for other financial sectors, in addition to relieving shipping costs that produce higher prices at retailers and grocery stores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it certainly saves little money for all of those Americans who get one gallon of gas at a time and thus don&#8217;t notice that eighteen cents.</p>
<p>So Obama&#8217;s economists may be right.</p>
<p>However, discretionary spending for other items would still occur in light of savings for gas, we&#8217;re talking about 11.5-13.5% taxation rate there. Oh, the economy also drives more items, less shelf life, etc.</p>
<p>So it still gets a return on similar numbers in efficiency with regard to generating revenue, only this revenue spreads across more markets than just the oil producers.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take Exxon&#8217;s word for it instead, and keep paying an extra .18 per gallon. Every cent gasoline reduces in price adds a billion a day to our macro economy.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s eighteen billion a day Hillary&#8217;s proposal would put back into the economy. That money would be taxed at a sales rate and help demand for other financial sectors, in addition to relieving shipping costs that produce higher prices at retailers and grocery stores.</p>
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		<title>By: requiemforadancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>requiemforadancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Krugman.

He said a more constructive oil policy is needed, all around, nationally, and he's right, particularly after the dimmer twins. 

A gas tax holiday, courtesy of Shell, Krugman has said, apparently, is harmless.


Do you understand this, or should I explain it more.

And the dimmer twins are Cheney and Bush, a take off on their soulful brothers, Mick And Keith, the glimmer twins.

Then there are the "chemical brothers," but  I'll save that for "famous politicians who use a lot of drugs to make it through the day" day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Krugman.</p>
<p>He said a more constructive oil policy is needed, all around, nationally, and he&#8217;s right, particularly after the dimmer twins. </p>
<p>A gas tax holiday, courtesy of Shell, Krugman has said, apparently, is harmless.</p>
<p>Do you understand this, or should I explain it more.</p>
<p>And the dimmer twins are Cheney and Bush, a take off on their soulful brothers, Mick And Keith, the glimmer twins.</p>
<p>Then there are the &#8220;chemical brothers,&#8221; but  I&#8217;ll save that for &#8220;famous politicians who use a lot of drugs to make it through the day&#8221; day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bwana</title>
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		<dc:creator>bwana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has the clinton camp come up with a single economist who thinks this gas tax holiday is a good idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has the clinton camp come up with a single economist who thinks this gas tax holiday is a good idea?</p>
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		<title>By: blobert</title>
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		<dc:creator>blobert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NYT better come down hard on this.
(Wish the Indiana poll results would just freeze where they are right now!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NYT better come down hard on this.<br />
(Wish the Indiana poll results would just freeze where they are right now!)</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Tenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen Tenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama doesn't care. HE is the one who will do anything to win</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama doesn&#8217;t care. HE is the one who will do anything to win</p>
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