It Ain’t Over: Obama MAY have to pay the piper after all [Hot Update]
By SusanUnPC on May 7, 2008 at 10:33 AM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Bill Ayers, Flag officers, Hillary Clinton, Tony Rezko, Weather Underground, William Ayers
UPDATE: Jerome Armstrong posted a comment in Alegre’s diary at MyDD last night. Here’s what he said:
“The “official” Obama nomination tour will have to do a detour into
the land of unelectability (for him).”
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Hewitt is correct: There are two overarching problems with Obama — 1) He cannot win the big electoral states — cannot do it, and 2) His filthy associations with crooks and terrorists will bring him down.
Tuesday, May 06, 2008
Rezko, The Obamas and Hillary
Dems cannot be happy tonight. Hillary shows that Obama is toast in another midwestern state, but she can’t overcome a 90% plus African-American vote for Obama in North Carolina, showing that the key portion of the Democratic base is not bailing on Obama.
But don’t look for Hillary to bail, at least not until the final primaries are held and the Tony Rezko trial verdict in. (Final arguments open Monday.) If Rezko walks, the chance of another devastating revelation about Obama goes down.
But if Rezko is convicted and is facing a long stretch in jail, won’t he have to think long and hard about naming names in order to limit his years in federal prison? Clearly Rezko and Obama are close. That’s a huge potential nightmare for the Dems, and Team Hillary won’t be shy about underscoring the dangers of an unfolding scandal consuming Chicago politics.
Then there’s the slowly spreading impact of Michelle Obama. The more voters hear her rhetoric, the less they are going to want her husband in the White House.
STAY TUNED. I hear there are other shoes to drop!
And keep searching for information. We can fight this and perhaps not only save the Democratic nomination, but the country.
Our futures — and the stability of the world — depends on it.
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This is the direction I’ve been pointing towards and it will enable us to stop Obama.
Don’t let up on this. Checkmate is in sight.
No wonder they want her to drop, as soon as they feel they have a breather, the next crop of reality hits, forcing them into even more confusion.
This is the chat I heard this morning on NPR : DR Show…..
The 2 commentators said that if the party asked Clinton to run as VP that she would do it to serve her country…..This is what I found interesting….
THE SAID THAT WITHOUT CLINTON OBAMA COULD NOT UNIFY THE PARTY….AND….THAT OBAMA AND CLINTON WOULD BE UNBEATABLE IN THE GE….AND ….THAT OBAMA NEEDS CLINTONS CLOUT TO PASS ANY LEGISLATION IN CONGRESS…AND THAT OBAMA NEEDS HER FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE…..Interesting No ?
** Both commentators expressed bafflement about Pelosi rejecting out of hand any knid of a unity ticket **
My thought was they were basically saying that Obama will lose without her and yet….Why on earth should he get the nomination ?
You know, people are missing the big picture here.
Obama is a criminal, and I would say is considered as such, and, really, handled as such.
Same with Cheney, and Bush.
Bush’s presidency is a disaster.
If you don’t want people to know the size of your d**k, don’t expose yourself.
Every time that idiot opens his mouth, or tries another trick, he tells us he’s hung like a squirrel.
Those people, the only thing smaller than their dic*s are their brains.
“You know, people are missing the big picture here.
Obama is a criminal, and I would say is considered as such, and, really, handled as such.”
There are good folks here who are very passionate about their candidate, and show it. Though I disagree with them on almost everything, I’m laying off of them today because I know they’ve had a tough night, and I also think they deserve congratulations for their victory in Indiana, which is being overshadowed by the blowout in N.C.
You however, are not one of those people. You are a spreader of hateful, slanderous, bigoted lies about the presumptive Democratic nominee, and you deserve the loss that’s coming to you in every way.
Jeff,
Since you claim you read Obama’s book “Dreams”, then you KNOW, or skipped over vast swaths, that in his own words he PROVES he is a racist and has ALWAYS been since past 18 years old.
I served on NAACP Boards and have actually DONE a hell of a lot more than you to further MLK’s dream of judging by the content of character. I have spent 40 years at it. So do not come here and use the “racist” crap with us.
And don’t you dare come here and have the “audacity” to lecture anyone of our commenters at this blog - reserve it for the cretins over at the orange circle jerk off place.
Obma IS a CRIMINAL and if you bothered doing any googling and reading you would know that. Frankly, so aren’t the so called Dem “Leadership” - although those two words together are a bigger oxymoron than “Compassionate conservatism”.
So get lost.
No tough night at all. Hillary closed the gap in NC heavily. A state slted for Obama to win. She came behind by 20 points and WON Indiana. It was a good night for Hillary camp!
I agree. The Obama people are trying to spin a loss into a win….That’s how Axelrod operates. He attacks instead of answering the question honestly. Obama is the creation of Axelrod and people are following this cult leader, Elmer Gantry. We know what happened to Elmer in the end. Rev. Wright’s rant allowed Obama to finally disown him…..smart Axelrod move. How come we don’t hear from Rev. Wright anymore? Strange. How do you erase 20 years? I have a bridge to nowhere to sell those who fall for the stunt.
No tough night at all. Not only did Hillary WIN Indiana from a 20 point deficit, she closed the gap in NC, a state Obama was supposed to win. It was a GOOD night indeed.
Go Hillary!
Obama Unify? Hahahahaha.
It’s Hillary or the Highway. Hillary should not involve herself with any offers of VP. Hillary is the brains and the might amoungst all the candidates and she should be the nominee. Hillary came up from behind by 20 points and won Indiana, a state that Obama was supposed to win. She closed the gap in NC by 9 points. She goes on to win WV, KY, & Puerto Rico by a landslide.
She has a huge chance of winning Oregon (my state) Montana and S. Dakota. This is not over. We have 3 weeks left to go.
Without Hillary voters in the GE McCain gets the whitehouse. No one I know will vote for Obama due to his terrorist ties and belief system as well as his utter lack of knowledge. Might as well put bugs bunny in Obamas place. He knows just as much but is a safer bet.
As to an OB/Hillary ticket, there is absolutely no way I will vote for that. As far as I am concerned, OB is dangerous and I cannot give that man a vote, period. If Hillary were to accept such a deal, then I will have to follow my heart and do what i believe is right. I cannot cast a vote that includes ob.
I cannot and I will not. i am a Floridian. Ob and the DNC told us Floridians to go to hell. Now we say to hell with them.
I vote Hillary or I vote MCain. But I will never vote any ballot with Obama on there. Never.
Pelosi expects to have the VP slot for herself.
Obama has probably promised him a Presidential Pardon.
I just had a conversation with a friend yesterday who stated that her husband who is retired military has received mailings from Republican party going out to all vets negative on Obama. Supposedly widespread.
We’re military and he does Susan, he does.
And what is our military suppose to think with Obama as CINC?
Are they to ask: Sir, could you check with your wife to see if she is proud of America today, sir? I want to know if this is a good or bad day to die for my country, sir.
The rest of the Democratic party needs to come to terms with the fact that in the general election Obama is unelectable.
tracy, what you say is true, but if you listen to what the brazile/dean wing of the party is saying, then it is we don’t need or want you anymore. of course that is a suicide pact but these power hungry fools actually think it. persoanlly i think it will take a major asx whooping to clear the wannabes out.
That only works when you have your identity tied to the party, and most people here don’t.
That’s really weak, to invest your self image in a cadre of losers.
Like the republicans, do, like the AA community does.
Oh really? I’ve heard that from Donna Brazile as recently as last night but a quick transcript scan doesn’t show any such comment about Howard Dean. Perhaps you have something to back that up?
Casting aspersions where they don’t belong doesn’t make them true.
Excuse me - Get lost we don’t want members of the Orange Circle Jerk Off here today.
No we won’t give you anything - for months you should have been vetting. Maybe gansta is appealing to the 3 or 4 brain cells you use - its not what we want for a country.
I have to disagree, I don’t give power to people I don’t respect as intelligent.
They can’t win, they’re promoting a candidate who would just as soon support Qaddafi, who blew up a plane full of Americans, as he would Ayers.
Problem here, whether it’s Bush, or Obama, is this has real consequences for Americans, even for Bush, and national security.
And if their asses get burned, it’s their own fault.
Decisions to deal with guys like Auchi have consequences, decisions to out a CIA agent have consequences.
So, when the Cheney’s and Obamas fall, it’s because they weren’t smart enough to handle what they took on.
They never ever had to accept consequence, it’s why they made these stupid decisions, in part.
Hell of a reckoning, but no one will save you.
Your fathers should have taught you this years ago.
Brazille is sickening and she is no Gwen Ifill. At least Gwen keeps you guessing who she is for. That is true professional reporting at it’s best.
Reporters need to take lessons from Gwen Ifill.
Sad to say though that Gwen can’t teach them the maturity that they need. They seem like such juveniles.
I think the party is going to pressure Clinton to a unity ticket…..He cannot win…
I will not vote for him. I don’t care if my mother is his VP.
I’m just sayin that there are some folks that are goin to try to pressure her….She is the only viable answer to the GOP….The talk was very strange as described above….and every caller said they wanted her to stay in the race….They said her run made all the states feel relevant..
WHO IS THE REAL CANDIDATE WHO IS BRINGING IN VOTERS…CLINTON
Hillary shouldn’t agree to a unity ticket. This guy’s got soo much nasty baggage waiting to come out and she can also get tainted by association.
Hopefully she’ll hang in there and not bow to pressure. Besides, he’ll steal all her policies and networks, Not a good option…
I agree - Called Hill’s campaign about an hour ago - no such deal in the works according to guy I talked with.
Uppidy, same for me!
Susan, some thoughts I posted already that might be of interest:
Comment by Unleashed Lion | 2008-05-07 10:12:56
I am not religious, but there is truth where we find it:
“Forgive them, my Lord, they know not what they do.”
That being said, as I stated last night:
“Be careful when you arouse a lion, expect him to bite.
America will now fight Obama tooth and nail with all legal means available to us. He won’t be allowed to fuck with our very way of life. Period.”
The battle has just begun, my friends and this lion has a mean bite.
These children who troll here actually believe America will hand over control of its nuclear arsenal to a man who coddles and embraces terrorists? And to a man who subverts the very Constitution he swore on a bible to support and defend? The very same Constitution he shits on by fomenting insurrection in the form of a threatened race war?
The battle plan is simple: in public and in private the delegates will be shown Obama is a danger and threat to our very freedoms and liberties. And you troll children have no control over the private dialog going on behind the scenes. You can’t spin the truth when you are not the actual decision makers having the discussions.
The adults of America now will save us and you from that wannabe tyrannical dictator Obama that you foolishly idolize.
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And this, in response to a mention of Brazille and her comments about not needing the base of the Democratic party:
Comment by Unleashed Lion | 2008-05-07 10:25:58
Excellent comment!
Brazille looks crazed lately, like she has been smoking too much hopeium and drinking gallons of coffee to stay up because she is so groggy, fucked up and stoned from the hopeium.
What this means to me is the internal pressure in the DNC from Hillary and us supporters is having a huge impact on Brazille and Dean. This is great news to see her so fucked up. The Clinton’s must be pouncing on the DNC and the delegates in private — and we can’t see this overtly, but Brazille’s wacky behavior and politically suicidal comments last night is very strong anecdotal evidence of a Hillary checkmate in sight.
Thanks for this. I don’t trust anything about Obama. This tells me that he probably couldn’t even get the security clearance needed to be President. I wondered why Brazile had begun to look like she has a big ole chip on her shoulder and just daring someone to knock it off. This would be enough to make her come unglued.
You are quite welcome. As I wrote here
he might lose his Senate seat, not just the election.
I think those GOP ads have got to rattle them….
Yes. There is a group forming right now to unseat him.
Hell I almost didn’t get a higher level clearance just because I lived in the same DORM with an SDS leader. Where I come from, Obama wouldn’t get past the lobby.
Hey Uppity!
Hugs,
Lion
xxoo Lion.
Obama couldn’t get a security clearnace needed to ba a copy boy in the Congressional mailroom - much less anything higher.
HAS ANYBOODY NOTICED THAT OBAMA IS A SUPER DELEGATE AND IS VOTING FOR HIMSELF?
Bill and Hillary Clinton are also both superdelegates and are voting for Hillary. So what? Who else would they vote for?
I’ll bet Hillary and Bill even voted for her in the democratic primary in NY and Obama voted for himself in the Ill primary.
Good lord!
How old are you?
Thank you for noticing. Yes, they are all listed.
My points are twofold: (1) I think that any nominee for the presidency should not be allowed to continue as a super delegate, once the run-off begins between two candidates for the position of President prior to the actual nomination at the Democratic Convention.
(2) IMO the whole super delegate thing is a travesty.
What democracy encourages people to go to the polls and vote for a candidate in the primaries and then virtually eliminate those votes by allowing a few people from each state to determine who the nominee is actually going to be.
It’s bad enough that we have the Electoral College to do it to us later.
Yeah, yeah. I know this has all been said before. *sighs.*
What????
Do you have a link?
who cares?
Oh, you’re tired of the republican trolls, too?
Oh, you’re tired of the republican trolls, too?
You just kind of stand back, and let them project themselves into a stupor, and see what sticks, as they go about creating their own realities.
And they don’t.get.it.
Wow, I’m so glad we have the republican trolls advocating for us against the world, they’re so bright.
That would explain a lot.
Wow, that was phenomenal, Patriotic Lion! I hope you’re right, for our country’s sake.
No one’s braver than Hillary and her supporters.
They better keep pouncing on Dean. His idea of solving this this is to seat the delegates after the nominee is picked. ah ah. No go.
Thank you for sharing this. It gives me hope. I will continue fighting with Hillary as long as there are others like you out there fighting too. I hope there are many, many more like us.
If you want a ringside seat to the complete picture of the corruption and schemes that Obama was and is involved in, just give these links by Evelyn Pringle a read:
Barack Obama - The Wizard of Oz
Barack Obama - Operation Board Games For Slumlords
Barack Obama - Subplots of Operation Board Games
Obama is ready to move the Daley dog and pony show of corruption to the national level where they can steal billions, not just millions.
Replace a neo-con criminal Bush with a neo-liberal thief Obama, how quaint!
Whatever W and his thugs don’t steal, the Obamas will, I’m sure of it.
You mean you aren’t going to let Michelle heal your mean soul? You ungrateful typical white person!
that is pretty much what Leo Strauss planned and preached!
I believe it. His motivation to become POTUS is $.
We the people do not matter to Obama.
Money, power and self-aggrandizement — makes Obama easy pickens to get “walked” by a puppet master or two. And the puppet masters share the same motivation, making them easy to spot.
The myopia the puppet and his master share are also a profound weakness — they fail to see their palace is no sanctuary — they fail to see our survival is their survival. All empires fall under their own weight.
Obama is a political psychopath. He exhibits no shame, no matter where his money comes from. On September 5, 2007, the New York Post reported that, “Alexi Giannoulias, who became Illinois state treasurer last year after Obama vouched for him, has pledged to raise $100,000 for the senator’s Oval Office bid.”
“Giannoulias is so tainted by reputed mob links,” the Post noted, “that several top Illinois Dems, including the state’s speaker of the House and party chairman, refused to endorse him even after he won the Democratic nomination with Obama’s help.”
If the Democratic party places Obama on the ballot against John McCain, Democratic voters will have no choice in this election. Once the whole truth becomes public, and it will the minute he becomes the nominee, no honest American could support sending Obama and his corrupt gang of cronies to the White House.
Evelyn Pringle. Opt ed reporter
This I suspected all along that Obama doesn’t need the miidle class struggling Americans because they cannot file lawsuits to protect themselves agianst thugs like him-First of all, “Barack Obama you are no Robert Kennedy,” and we’re still asking the question because the careers of politicians like Obama are funded by a political mafia which has turned helping the poor into a cottage industry.
During his speech, Obama himself spelled out why low-income housing developers get away with funneling tax dollars through poor people in cities like Chicago without drawing any scrutiny, when he stated:
“These Americans cannot hire lobbyists to roam the halls of Congress on their behalf, and they cannot write thousand-dollar campaign checks to make their voices heard. They suffer most from a politics that has been tipped in favor of those with the most money, and influence, and power.”
Evelyn Pringle
I am watching MSBON. I have been hearing the same doo doo all morning long…HILLARY MUST DROP OUT! the media has finally outdone itself. do they fear no-one? can they not see the whores that they have become? I never put much stock in anything they’ve ever said but I fear for the young ones that have drunk from this well.
Hang tuff Hillary. You have more support out here than you can ever know!
WARNING: Air pollution causes cancer to the body politic!
turn them off now! they pick up ratings from your cable box..turn them off and keep them off..they are on my child block so they can not pick up me even going by them with my remote!
Why do dems keep abusing themselves watching shit that costs us all?
Turn them off! and keep them off!
and don’t think because they are not on Neilson they don’t know how many tune in..they damn well do ..from your cable box.
My mantra for today:
1968, 1972, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, 2004, 2008.
Save the Party?
The Party’s over!
Ah Mimi! You Know!
yep, turn out the lights.
Come on Clinton…..Drop those shoes.
Called the DNC this morning. Told them Donna Brazille has to go. Told them to count Michigan and Florida. Told them they are risking losing a huge portion of their base if they go with Obama. Told them I will never vote Obama. We must keep fighting for Hillary. I have seen the Dems want to pick a loser so many times, and it’s crazy because they have winner, right before them. Hillary is the fighter we need. I am not giving up.
they aren’t listening. that is clear. they are listenting to the brazile/axelrod spin. so we are headed over the cliff. heck the current dim leadership in congress is less popular than bush, but they don’t care.
They don’t care.
They don’t care that Yomama can’t carry working and middle-class whites and hispanics in any significant numbers.
They don’t care that they are alienating old school Democrats by the bus load or the fact that Yomama can’t carry a major democratic states.
The fact the DNC isn’t fazed by a drop off in donations and people wanting out is a sign the organization is in a death spiral.
When management in any organization stops listening and goes its marry way despite screaming objections and facts on the ground that say ‘no’.
You have a outfit that you need to bail out from asap!!
The Democratic party is in a bad way, very bad.
Ladies and gents, can you spell extortion?
The thing is the party bosses tolerated virulent race baiters and anti-semites like Jackson and Sharpton in the hopes that they would remain loyal to the party and get out the AA vote for Democrats in general.
And now its blown up their face. These thugs now realize they have the Democratic party by the family jewels and have delivered a ultimatum to Dean and company.
Either support Mobama or face rioting in Denver and no AA support in November.
Lie down with feral dogs and you end up a meal for them.
well Kerry lost in most part because single women did not vote..how about if all of Hillary’s women do not vote in Nov?????? where will the dems be then?????????????
I for one will be one of those women..i will be writing in Mickey Mouse..since my state of Disney World is not counting..i want the dems to know my vote was a protest vote !
oh and the big chuncks of money i have given the DNC and dems is now over!
fly
Either support Hillary or expect a wave of riots in every american city across US.
I’m not giving up. Why so glum? Hillary won Indiana.
Onto WV, KY etc..No quitting now. It’s all downhill from here.
About mobama, as you said, there is so much more to come out on her. This piece has some starters - will be more to come:
“The Brains Behind Barack”
http://unityindiversity-spiritedpolitics.blogspot.com
(Sorry there is no open comment thread there. Got too many attacks by KoolAid drunks.)
I hate that I can’t comment on your blog.
LARRY: Can you check this out please:
One of the links in the m.o. article above is to the only website that I know of that has copy of her “separationist” Princeton thesis (which has otherwise been blocked from internet access until after Nov election).
The same site has the BEST LIST OF LINKS to documentation and videos on truth of his campaign.
I was researching there all morning today. Just went back after 1/2 hr absence. THIS SITE HAS BEEN TAKEN DOWN. Also tried my open other screen on it. Also gone. Went to google- put in site name Also GONE FROM GOOGLE. Instead google gave me Moore’s endorsement, buy obama gear and long list of pro-obama junk and propaganda.
INSTEAD OF THE SITE, this is what you now get:
“Ooops!!! If you are the owner of this site, contact
408-505-8855″
PLEASE email me and I will give you the name of the site so you can investigate. Much research is missing without it - along with longest list of investigative site links.
This is serious and no accident or coincidence! Larry, can you help please. I was using material from there for support to one of your staff writers.
jmk try googling a string and pull up the cache. Then you can copy it before the cache disappears.
Oh gosh Susan, I’m so glad to see this post! I just embedded Lenny Kravitz’s song “It Ain’t Over Til It’s Over” at my own blog. You guys should all head over to YouTube to take a listen. I needed it this morning something terrible!!!! You guys give me some renewed hope. I’m glad I decided to stop in. I’m going to the “Generations” event with Hillary and her mom and Chelsea today and I can’t wait!!!! I need to feed off of her energy because I’m so angry.
Sugar! Good to see ya girl! Nobody blogs Barry like you do!
This is my letter to Dr. Dean and the DNC:
To Whom it May Concern,
I supported Howard Dean for DNC Chairman. I supported his 50 state plan. It is unfortunate that Dr. Dean has chosen to abandon that strategy in order to insure Sen. Obama’s nomination.
Dr. Dean started months ago by denying Michigan and Florida the right to be counted. Dr. Dean started months ago by showing his bias in favor of Sen. Obama. Dr. Dean started months ago by signaling to the SD’s to make up their minds quickly, before the rest of the country had its votes counted.
This year, the Democratic rolls have doubled and tripled because, for the first time, many states had a chance to actually have their votes count. I fear those rolls are not going to be reflective after this election because half the Democratic electorate feels it has been “sold a bill of goods” by Dr. Dean and the DNC. Dr. Dean’s attitude towards the Gay Community and his unwillingness to hold the MSM accountable for it’s obvious bias reflects his inability to unify a party.
I have been a Democrat all my life and i can honestly say i have never been more disappointed in the party leadership than i am now. All i can say, at this point is, i will not vote for McCain in the General. The DNC, thus far, has failed me, Florida, Michigan, almost 50% of the Democratic base and the party.
Because of this lack of, or unwillingness, to demonstrate leadership from the DNC leadership and Congressional leadership, i find myself considering becoming an Independent. I know many others feel as i do.
Convince me, Dr. Dean, without using SCOTUS, to stay with the Democratic Party. Sen. Obama does not have an acceptable health care plan. He does not have a clear defined plan for extricating us from Iraq. His economic plan is vague, at best, and his energy plan is hollow when a review of his benefactors is populated with the very energy companies that crafted the current policy.
Tell me, Dr. Dean. Why should i stay?
Way to go Troy!
I am officially no longer a Democrat, however I am an AMERICAN and a good one. Tell me this is not happening to me, to Hillary, to the USA.Tell me it’s a nightmare.Pleeeeaaaase.
I fear for my country and I am NOT a Drama Queen. What can we do ??????
Please someone have a plan. This is becoming frightening.
FEEL BETTER EVERYBODY, GO TO STOPOBAMA.COM THE PIC IS TOO FUNNY AND JUANITA’S ARTICLE WILL SHOW YOU HOW HILLARY IS GOING TO WIN. REMEMBER, THE NEXT STATES TO VOTE ARE NOT RACIST BLACK DOMINATED. AHHHH WHITE PEOPLE ! HILLARY KNOWS THIS, SMART LADY THAT SHE IS ! AND NEVER GIVE UP HOPE ABOUT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN BECAUSE THEY WILL BE COUNTED OR THERE WILL BE RIOTS IN DENVER, WHITE ONES !
Quarterhorse
Thanks for the site and the insight… it helps. Maybe we white folks can”OVERCOME”in the next states.
The most frightening thing I have thought of all day is if not for the SCREAM..Dr Dean could have been the President….W or Dean not much of a choice
Go Hillary a true choice
When I try stopobama.com I get http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=obama&btnG=Google+Search instead. Do you mean http://www.stop-obama.org?
http://www.stop-obama.org/
I’m with Hillary ALL THE WAY! I will NOT vote for Obama!
I still think she can win, but admitedly the uphill climb has gotten steeper. Hillary may be a lot of things but stupid is NOT one of them. For her to loan her own money to her campaign makes me believe that she knows something we don’t.
Any feedback? I think there’s gonna be another shoe that drops for Obama. It may be wishful thinking on my part but I really think something is going to happen to make Obama drop out by June….if for no other reason than the party finally coming to their senses and explaining to him that there is NO WAY he can win in Nov.
But…butbutbutbut, Tom HANKS!!
Is it me, or do these big-name endorsements (not that anyone gave much of a damn about Bill “Suddenly VERY Hispanic” Richardson before he became a Bamm-Bamm Booster) and superdelegate flip-flops seem deliberately timed before big primaries?
Ka-ching! CHANGE!! = Sam Old Corruption
Well, now I know. I heard Donna Brazile explain last night on CNN that it is a NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY. It no longer includes us hard working white folks or hispanic people. It is now a party of the young and inner city according to Brazile. Good luck with that party. Glad I switched a long time ago.
Then, listening to Diane Rheem this morning on NPR discussing Nancy Pelosi’s opinion that the dreamb ticket of Obama and Clinton is a bad idea. Diane asked the reporters why Pelosi said that. They all said they didn’t know. She asked “why don’t you ask her”. They were dumfounded. Yea, why haven’t the reporters bothered to ask an obvious question. Someone needs to explain to Diane that reporters no longer ask questions. They are just stenographers.
stenographers and cheerleaders.
too bad they picked the wrong quarterback.
Becaused she ahs been promised the VP postion long ago. She is wicked. She is a power monger. She is lazy too. she ahsn’t passed a single bill. She won’t even present them.
Oops typeo’s sorry.
Great. Balanced ticket? Tinker Belle and Peter Panned?
wow i was just quickly cut off a call i made to Harry Reids office ..i was very polite and told the man i was a 2004 elected delegate for my state..and that i was a big contributor to the Dem party.and that after Donna Brazile’s comments last night not needing the base of the party i would be re-registering as an indy..the guy began to immediately cut me off and said i should nt base my decisons on one persons comments..i had t rush in that since she is a member of the DNC ..and he hung up!!!and didn’t let me complete my sentence!
I got the same brush off calling Pelosi’s office today..well they just sealed the deal for me..they don’t need me or my money or my time…so they can go suck eggs!
fly
Then if Donna doesn’t count us as part of the party, we have Hillary runs as the new/old party. That will take the confusion out of the process. They don’t want us or her so why don’t get together and party. Forget them.
My family and I just finished filling out our ballots for Hillary. We even got to vote against Obama endorsers in US Senate for Oregon etc. Way to go. Any endorsers of the criminal Obama do not get my vote! Earl Blumenauer take notice. Gordon Smith, BYE BYE. Off to hand deliver them to the election office. Not mailing them in this year! Die hard Dems for Hillary!!
Go Hillary.
Rise Hillary rise.
13 more days til Oregon results are in!
Just donated $220 for Hillary. Come on folks! The country is truly at stake. Give up that movie and popcorn one night and lets keep her rolling. It’ll be worth it to watch the death grip of desperation start gathering around the Obama campaign when his baggage starts dribbling out some more. Also, see Obamatruth.org.
Way to go, avwrobel!
Stupid, she is NOT!
They are most likely the smartest couple in the entire country, and thus feared by many.
This election has allowed us commoners to see the real fault lines in the Party, the jealousies, rivalries and meanness.
I believe that if the DNC insists in pushing this unpatriotic, overly ambitious, green, snide and corrupt individual as its nominee, then the DNC should know that mainstream Democrats would not be in tow.
Let them hang themselves with the rope called BO around their necks.
Single handedly Bill and Hillary could start a movement that would win a good 30-35% of the vote in any election. That should teach those schemers a lesson!
They are so good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, they should be dismantled, and thrown off the cliff!
WOW!!!
What has happened to this site? I’ve been away studying for finals and I come back and it’s like stepping through the looking glass!
What happened to the sober, passionate but rational, fact-based commentary?
I get it that people support Hillary. I do not get the personal destruction stuff against Obama. Such vitriol all based on the words of his pastor and the decades old actions of a neighbor.
What happened to holding people accountable for their own words and deeds? Do you people really really think that Obama is some kind of criminal American-hating, racist(against his black side or white side is never stated), Manchurian type candidate? Has any actions he’s ever taken ever comported with the ideology of Ayers or Wright? Silly is as silly does people!
Look, I think Hillary is the superior candidate and would make a better president. But I always argue based on rational thought like policy differences, experience, etc… And from the tenor of the comments, it is easy for one to draw the conclusion that the real problem his detractors have is something they do not have the character to come out and admit.
Here’s a fact: Obama will be the nominee. He will offer a stark contrast to McCain. As much as I love Hillary, I love this country more and I refuse to work against Obama because of something someone else said or did.
Obama does have a real shot. He has won over voters in places like Idaho, Kansas, Nebraska, Utah, as well as get 40% of the white vote after the Wright controversy,I would argue that he can win enough white voters. If the super delegates were to give Hillary the nomination, then she would alienate such a large portion of the base(all races) that she would not be viable. So we fought the good fight but the other guy won, now it’s time to move forward for the country, not wish bad things to happen to Obama.
I hope one day that this site returns to quality it has exhibited from it’s inception.
Kirk:yes ,it’s truly bizarre isnt it? I posted last night on this site after a long hiatus. I used to value Larry’s experince and judgement concerning nat’l security, but no more. Now, there’s very little in the way of intelligent give and take here. ..even less actual information. The level of shrill paranoia ,and conspiracy mongering reminds me of the 9/11 conspiracy kooks.
You and I dont share the same opinion of the 2 candidates. I ‘left’ Hillary’s camp after I got tired of what I perceived as the lies( Bosnia, N. Ireland, etc), and her scorched earth, Lee Atwater style of politics.
But i think that we both recognize that the greater danger is the self immolation of the Dem party, and hence a victory for Bombbomb McCain. I invite the less rabid on this site to read McCains statement about the overreaching of the judiciary. He states - with no trace of irony - that the executive branch needs MORE power! As Scooby do would say,”huh?” Consider , too that McCain wants to continue Bush’s ’shoot first’ policies in the mideast - the policies that have caused so much virulent hatred of us throughout the rest of the world. Yeah, THAT’S gonna make us more secure -snark.
So I hope that those that frequent this site consider what’s best for the COUNTRY, and put away this pouting, juvenile,and ultimatly self defeating attitude.
If McCain is elected , then we are truly fucked.
Peace be with you, man.
Study harder, in a reality-based environment.
Even a Fine Arts major would understand that winning a caucus among Democratic Lefties in Idaho is a far cry from winning over the state.
Maybe someday you’ll undertand how close we were coming to making the Democratic party relevant again… but no. Back to the margins of power and responsibility.
Do you realize that Barack Obama would not be able to get a security clearance to work on a sensitive project (much less a “black project”) for TI, or Raytheon, or Boeing because of his friends and LONG STANDING associations? Do you understand that Hillary has handled him with kid gloves? Do you understand that Obama is simply a plate of raw meat to the GOP 527s… and this time, they don’t even have to make things up.
Take a deep breath. Pull your head out of your sophomoric ass, take out the iPod buds, put down the kool-aid, and look around at the real world.
It’s a sobering place.
The fact that you and your friends are on a drunken sailor’s spree and smashing things up is causing a small degree of outrage among the grown-ups.
Larry and Susan
As Hillary continues her drive for the Presidential Nomination, we are getting near the deadline. I have followed your postings an am thrilled about the enthusiasm and support for Hillary. I have read all the questionable activities of Barack Obama (see http://www.obamaunveiled.com), but I don’t see any of this out in the public. It seems that we are all in a closet and just talking to each other, and the Media are just ignoring all this. Why isn’t this out so that the “intelligent white voters for Obama” can see this also. Where is a “Woodward and Bernstein” now when we need him. Is there someone that can get his “dirty linen” out to the public before he becomes the Democratic Nominee?
So , you REALLY believe that Barack had sex with a man, has been ’sporting a Cuban flag, has a poster of Che Guevara in his Houston office, is actually - gasp!- a Muslem, a Communist, a terrorist, and worst of all, he doesnt WEAR A FLAG PIN!! OMG!!! This is an excellent example of what I refered to above as ‘Lee Atwater’ politics. Translation : character assination. Further, this is the RWinger’s standard procedure, an approach to politics that Hillary - unfortunately - has adopted.
You have a responsibility as an American voter to sort through the bullshit on sites such as the one you linked to. The ‘Media’ is ignoring websites like that BECAUSE they’re full of it.
Websites like this lose credibility when the people that frequent it mistake the lies, distortions, and smears of websites like Obamaunveiled as truth.
I cannot bring myself to vote for Obama and have started send my friends and family items of interest concerning him.
the feedback I get is wow I never even suspected that those issues existed. there is so many problems with him that they agree where there is smoke there is fire and the problem is that the liberal and conservative media is keeping us from learning what he really is about.
the more I learn about him the more disgusted I get.
The only way Rezko won’t flip is if he’s a spy.
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