Comments on: Hillary Writes a Letter to Barack http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:32:38 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Kim Taylor http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-1068744 Kim Taylor Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:25:26 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-1068744 Good post Lonnie, but just remember where you came from. Pissing off the Americans that you were lucky enough to have had the chance to play for doesn't really make much sense. Just ask your mom Terri...her and your dad, Larry Morin which is my first cousin. They would both agree...not the way to go because we all come from "small town Northern Ontario". Ask me how I know... :-) Opportunities abound, not by hammering our brothers to the South, but by embracing them...as you so did when playing for the teams that signed you up! Humble up a bit... Kim Good post Lonnie, but just remember where you came from.

Pissing off the Americans that you were lucky enough to have had the chance to play for doesn’t really make much sense.

Just ask your mom Terri…her and your dad, Larry Morin which is my first cousin. They would both agree…not the way to go because we all come from “small town Northern Ontario”. Ask me how I know… :-)

Opportunities abound, not by hammering our brothers to the South, but by embracing them…as you so did when playing for the teams that signed you up! Humble up a bit…

Kim

]]> By: Gaylen http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-234457 Gaylen Fri, 09 May 2008 18:12:48 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-234457 And Obama is only interested in counting votes if they serve him politically, too. Only Clinton isn't running around claiming she is "different" and "new politics." Obama is a politician, just like all the rest. They try to manipulate scenarios so that they gain more than their opponent does. THEY ARE BOTH DOING THAT. Obama is no sinless saint and he adds bonus hypocrisy to the mix. The difference between them is that Hillary gains an advantage from doing what is RIGHT: counting votes. You can't get around the fact that Obama's machinations continue to deny 2.4 million people from participating in their government. Our will expressed with our votes is being ignored by our party to the benefit of Obama. He stands to gain from disenfranchising millions. That is wrong. It was wrong when Bush did it and it's wrong now whan Obama is doing it. There's also the other matter of what the rule book <strong>actually</strong> says about how these situations really should be handled. When a state moves it's primary, the "punishment" is supposed to be cutting their seated delegates in half, not stripping them entirely. There were also 3 other states that moved up their primaries with <strong>no</strong> punishment whatsoever. Obama won two of those states. No one has talked about how <em>those states</em> broke the rules and need to learn their lesson. And you can be damn certain no one is suggesting we throw out their election results and split those delegates equally. He wont those states, just like she won Florida and Michigan, where he willingly took his name off the ballot (knowing the rules he loves so much stated he would lose the his rights to any delegates). He didn't think he did needed those delegates at the time, so he's changing his story now, just like you've accused Clinton of. Same coin, different side. Disregarding the results and arbitrarily handing out delegates is the antithesis of democracy. It isn't "evil" to gain politically by sticking to democratic principles. That should be how the whole damn system works. When the rules are wrong, like Jim Crow laws, we change them and civil disobedience is a valid method. Lord, how did we get to a point where Democrats are afraid to count votes and love rules more than justice? And Obama is only interested in counting votes if they serve him politically, too.

Only Clinton isn’t running around claiming she is “different” and “new politics.” Obama is a politician, just like all the rest. They try to manipulate scenarios so that they gain more than their opponent does. THEY ARE BOTH DOING THAT. Obama is no sinless saint and he adds bonus hypocrisy to the mix.

The difference between them is that Hillary gains an advantage from doing what is RIGHT: counting votes.

You can’t get around the fact that Obama’s machinations continue to deny 2.4 million people from participating in their government. Our will expressed with our votes is being ignored by our party to the benefit of Obama. He stands to gain from disenfranchising millions. That is wrong. It was wrong when Bush did it and it’s wrong now whan Obama is doing it.

There’s also the other matter of what the rule book actually says about how these situations really should be handled. When a state moves it’s primary, the “punishment” is supposed to be cutting their seated delegates in half, not stripping them entirely. There were also 3 other states that moved up their primaries with no punishment whatsoever. Obama won two of those states. No one has talked about how those states broke the rules and need to learn their lesson. And you can be damn certain no one is suggesting we throw out their election results and split those delegates equally. He wont those states, just like she won Florida and Michigan, where he willingly took his name off the ballot (knowing the rules he loves so much stated he would lose the his rights to any delegates). He didn’t think he did needed those delegates at the time, so he’s changing his story now, just like you’ve accused Clinton of. Same coin, different side.

Disregarding the results and arbitrarily handing out delegates is the antithesis of democracy. It isn’t “evil” to gain politically by sticking to democratic principles. That should be how the whole damn system works. When the rules are wrong, like Jim Crow laws, we change them and civil disobedience is a valid method.

Lord, how did we get to a point where Democrats are afraid to count votes and love rules more than justice?

]]> By: scott http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-233222 scott Fri, 09 May 2008 04:05:29 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-233222 Because that would mean that 2 of the states that Barky won would be disqualified. And we can't have that. It wouldn't fit into dean and brazilles script. Because that would mean that 2 of the states that Barky won would be disqualified. And we can’t have that. It wouldn’t fit into dean and brazilles script.

]]> By: scott http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-233211 scott Fri, 09 May 2008 04:01:09 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-233211 "they only want rulzzzzzzzzzzzzz" Now if only the dnc would abide by their own rules “they only want rulzzzzzzzzzzzzz”

Now if only the dnc would abide by their own rules

]]> By: politicsIsdirty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232938 politicsIsdirty Fri, 09 May 2008 01:58:38 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232938 Why are we still discussing this stupid primary and who should the nominee be. Please, please, please Sen Clinton, if you are listening, give the nomination to Sen Obama and run as Independent. We want you to continue fighting for us and deliver us from the radical Obama and Bush clone Mcain. We can do this without the help of the Democratic party. You already have a strong following plus a sure shot on winning Michigan and Florida. You also are assured of the majority of working class white, hispanics and asians (remember CA). All the luck. Why are we still discussing this stupid primary and who should the nominee be. Please, please, please Sen Clinton, if you are listening, give the nomination to Sen Obama and run as Independent. We want you to continue fighting for us and deliver us from the radical Obama and Bush clone Mcain. We can do this without the help of the Democratic party. You already have a strong following plus a sure shot on winning Michigan and Florida. You also are assured of the majority of working class white, hispanics and asians (remember CA).

All the luck.

]]> By: Mr. Music http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232861 Mr. Music Fri, 09 May 2008 01:19:13 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232861 The Michigan/Florida thing is pure desperation. Clinton wouldn't care about MI/FLA if she were ahead. And regardless it's really not that close. Even if MI/FLA were counted as is, Obama would still be the winner. It's a non-issue. They'll be seated at the convention. The Michigan/Florida thing is pure desperation. Clinton wouldn’t care about MI/FLA if she were ahead.

And regardless it’s really not that close. Even if MI/FLA were counted as is, Obama would still be the winner.

It’s a non-issue. They’ll be seated at the convention.

]]> By: karen for Clinton http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232854 karen for Clinton Fri, 09 May 2008 01:13:09 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232854 Go check out her site and her platforms. You can also learn a lot about her from her wikipedia pages and her "Senator Clinton" official page with tons of information on her work in the senate. Your comments made me laugh and it is true. Go check out her site and her platforms. You can also learn a lot about her from her wikipedia pages and her “Senator Clinton” official page with tons of information on her work in the senate.

Your comments made me laugh and it is true.

]]> By: Lama http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232844 Lama Fri, 09 May 2008 01:10:10 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232844 Peace and love to all my brothers and sisters here. Keep the love. Spread no hate. Peace and love to all my brothers and sisters here. Keep the love. Spread no hate.

]]> By: karen for Clinton http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232837 karen for Clinton Fri, 09 May 2008 01:06:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232837 hey, jk did you click my link? it was from 2002, before she was running for president and it is about how much love they had. so don't tell me you've seen it all. I remember this article from 6 years ago when the world wasn't full of mean obamatrolls and chicago style politics. that is two trolls i spoke to today. gotta stop this it might become a habit. hey, jk

did you click my link? it was from 2002, before she was running for president and it is about how much love they had.

so don’t tell me you’ve seen it all.

I remember this article from 6 years ago when the world wasn’t full of mean obamatrolls and chicago style politics.

that is two trolls i spoke to today. gotta stop this it might become a habit.

]]> By: Lama http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232834 Lama Fri, 09 May 2008 01:05:44 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232834 You give them hate, they give you love. Which is the more powerful of the two? I cast my lot with love. Love & Peace, my brother. You give them hate, they give you love. Which is the more powerful of the two? I cast my lot with love.

Love & Peace, my brother.

]]> By: Lama http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232828 Lama Fri, 09 May 2008 01:03:45 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232828 Emotions are riding high, but keep the respect my sister. Love & Peace Emotions are riding high, but keep the respect my sister.

Love & Peace

]]> By: Lama http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232824 Lama Fri, 09 May 2008 01:02:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232824 Where is all the understanding in this place? Empathy requires it. Are we brothers? Are we our brothers keepers? Or do we threaten from that safe place behind our keyboards? Love & Peace, my brother. Where is all the understanding in this place? Empathy requires it.

Are we brothers? Are we our brothers keepers? Or do we threaten from that safe place behind our keyboards?

Love & Peace, my brother.

]]> By: Lama http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232817 Lama Fri, 09 May 2008 00:59:23 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232817 Is hate your art? Love & Peace, my brother. Is hate your art?

Love & Peace, my brother.

]]> By: Talktruth http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232800 Talktruth Fri, 09 May 2008 00:53:31 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232800 The black churches I've been in are nothing like that. They are red hot for Jesus! The black churches I’ve been in are nothing like that. They are red hot for Jesus!

]]> By: Talktruth http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232797 Talktruth Fri, 09 May 2008 00:51:14 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/hillary-writes-a-letter-to-barack/#comment-232797 Obamabots are like the walking dead, zombies, with their arms outstretched, faces like those in "The Scream": Obambi has already won...resistance is futile...we are the future...do not shine a light on us or we will die..." Obamabots are like the walking dead, zombies, with their arms outstretched, faces like those in “The Scream”: Obambi has already won…resistance is futile…we are the future…do not shine a light on us or we will die…”

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