Current ArticleBy SusanUnPC on May 9, 2008 at 5:01 PM in Hillary Clinton, Joseph Wilson, Valerie Plame Wilson
The Clinton campaign released this television ad today in Oregon:
Ambassador Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame Wilson believe Hillary has the strongest plan for ending the war in Iraq.
I think Joe got drafted and just went through basic training! 
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Wonderful to see a phone number on that add that people can call! Thank goodness they’ve come up with another way for people to reach out to Hillary’s campaign to find out for themselves where she stands.
The Wilsons are true American heros.
They have given a lot for this country.
It is so gratifying when people act out of
integrity, as opposed to waiting to see
which way the wind is blowing.
Joe Wilson is one of the most intelligent men I have ever had the pleasure of listening to, Mrs Wilson serves our country honorably.
I am so grateful for their contributions here, and elsewhere.
Joe took a lot of crap but he stayed with what he knew was right. That’s why he’s been vindicated. The man has character and principles. No wonder he won’t support Barky.
That’s why I admire him.
In addition, I listened to him interviewed on CNN, and he was so knowledgeable about Iraq, and the middle east, his inherent grasp of the factors affecting the war, the struggles, was highly impressive, and I thought ah, this is why Cheney will never succeed…
He was right, when he speaks, I listen, the same with Madeline Albright, and Gen Clark.
I don’t always agree, but they are so intelligent, they always have something to teach.
I was enlightened.
Boy, I miss those days.
I’ve heard some say Cheney’s guys are the dumbest Washington has ever seen, and given Washington as of late, that’s really saying something…
until we get to Obama’s people.
Obama’s people? Are you joking? This is a guy who surrounds himself with brilliance. Just look at how he’s ran his campaign for God’s sake. Obama is going to have people like Joe Biden & John Edwards in his cabinet. It will be a great administration. One that we can be proud of.
Then why do people even need Obama. Just vote for Edwards or Biden. Oh I forgot. They got cheated out of their votes by Obama in Iowa causus.
I guess Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame are not members of Chris Bowers’s creative class. But then again, Wilson and Plame do not mistake creativity for the repetition of slogans issued by the Obama campaign.
new motto: the “creativity class” has neither.
(May 9, 2008): “NC - Mecklenburg, Wake Counties find vote flawsSome” (Fox News 14) - Some Ballots Counted Twice for Obama NC
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*******wonder how many other states did this esp with the caucus states…nobody has checked them out yet!
At least 1 county in NC gave BO 15,000 extra votes; Ballots Counted Twice for Obama
Quote:
“MECKLENBURG & WAKE COUNTIES — Vote tallies are changing in the state’s two largest counties, after certain ballots were counted twice in Mecklenburg and Wake counties.
The mistake didn’t change the outcome of any elections, but it is a cause for concern to election directors.
For example, when Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama declared victory Tuesday night in North Carolina’s primary, he was given approximately 15,000 votes more than he should have been.
That’s 1 percent of all ballots cast.
In Wake County, early and absentee ballots were counted as part of the individual voters precincts and again as a whole.
“So in essence, those voters were recorded double,” said Cherie Poucher of the Wake Co. Board of Elections. It was around 37,000 votes.
In Mecklenburg County, only absentee ballots – 2,400 in all – were doubled. “It doesn’t change any of the results,” said Michael Dickerson of the Mecklenburg Co. Board of Elections. “All the winners are still the winners.”
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?p=91132#post91132
Doubled? So what is the DNC doing about this? 15,000 votes extra? Geez, these guys make the GOP seem honest.
OMG! Wonder how many others will come out of the woodwork?!
What else is new. These people haven’t got an honest bone in their bodies. Just look at the caucuses.
“”"In Wake County, early and absentee ballots were counted as part of the individual voters precincts and again as a whole”"”
According to an AA NC resident, over 450k absentee early vote were all for Obama and they were ballots for “deceased people”. He did not win NC. Hillary vote count was 652,824
Obama vote count was 875,683
Gavel vote count was 12,409
no prefernce count = 23,042
TOTAL BALLOTS CAST=2,099,961
LESS OBAMA COUNT = 1,224,278
LESS GAVEL COUNT = 1,211,869
LESS NO PREFERNCE= 1,188,827-(HILLARY TOTAL)
TOTAL VOTES COUNTED=1,563,958
VOTES CAST 2,099,961
Why weren’t the total votes cast counted?
That means there are 536,003 votes cast NOT COUNTED.
I assume they are Hillary’s since this is a state to state pattern in heavy AA states. That being so, then
ADD 536,003 UNCOUNTED BUT CAST HILLARY VOTES
AND 652,824 COUNTED HILLARY CAST VOTES.
1,188,827 TOTAL cast HILLARY VOTES.
NOW DEDUCT THE “DECEASED EARLY ABSENTEE VOTE OF OBAMAS
OBAMA COUNTED VOTES 875,683
LESS DECEASED VOTE 450,000-(approx-give or take)
TOTAL OBAMA VOTES = 425,683
NOW DEDUCT OBAMA 15,000 THAT THEY FOUND ON A DOUBLE COUNT.
425,683
LESS 15,000
410,683 OBAMA GRAND TOTAL cast VOTES
1,188,827 TOTAL HILLARY cast VOTES.
NOW PERCENTAGE
OBAMA 19.5%
HILLARY 80.5%
THESE NUMBERS REFLECT THE TRUE COUNT OF SUPPORT NATIONWIDE IF ALL THE VOTES WERE HONESTLY COUNTED STATE TO STATE.
Go to the NC state election site to verify before it gets scrubbed.
Verification needed on; What’s up with the uncounted votes.
AND the “deceased” votes.
If the Hillary votes were counted and not cycled (trashed)
across the nation, this race would not have lasted this long and Obama would not even be running against Hillary.
It would be Edwards against Hillary. Since Edwards got ‘cheated’ out of his votes in Iowa.
Now Guam
8100 cast
4500 counted
3600 cycled/trashed (Hillary votes?)
STILL ABOUT 80% HILLARY AND 20% OBAMA
Indiana
Hillary should have won at LEAST 56-57% AND AS HIGH AS 69% if all the votes were counted for her and if he didn’t double dip.
That is why we were and are all shocked at the recent IN. & NC results.
I’m just looking at numbers and not wishes or bias.
If there is a recount in Philadelphia, there is more than likely a double dip Obama vote and more trashed Hillary votes.
This is why Obama wants Hillary to drop out before anyone finds out the truth.
Question: Is anyone really addressing this or are they going to continue to turn a blind eye.
We are in no mood for this especially since Bush stole the vote twice.
The NC numbers raise some serious questions and it is a federal offense with jail time to commit election fraud.
Lastly, Obama campaigned in Oregon and in front of a “CROWD” of 3,000 (no busloads of paid workers at his rally) he said “there still is no clear winner and I am not the nominee”. -quote
On Yo tube, AA’s admitted that they didn’t care fi they cheated as long as Obama wins because “it is Obama’s house”
Now in Oregon. Obama volunteers are knocking on doors offering to “turn in” ‘completed Hillary ballots” (into the trash I suppose) It is nonsense. The mail box in right in front of their house. They do not need to “collect” Hillary ballots.
nuff said-
thanks for reading.
I think I’ll barf.
holy wow. “NOW PERCENTAGE
OBAMA 19.5%
HILLARY 80.5%”
wow wow wow. wow. wow. I just can’t even say anyting in response to that whole tirade it was so amazing. But that bit I quoted is most preciously. Yes Hillary won NC 80% to 20%. Yes. That’s right… I’m just seriously mouth agape here. I can’t believe there are folks out there like this.
Here is proof of how they get the “dead voters” information.
It’s from BHO weBsite calling instructions. Wrong number?
Then they collect the info and use it to register “dead voters”..???
Issue is the “wrong number” and is really a “disconnected”. Great filing system
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.> What is the best response to mark if the person called is deceased? If you call someone who has passed away, please mark Wrong Number so that they will not be called again.
Heck Dead voters have been voting by absentee ballot in Chicago for decades.
Joe and Valerie are the best!
Susan Faludi wrote a great Op/Ed in the New York Times today about how the White men of America are voting for her because of what a fighter Hillary is, as opposed to their being racists for not voting for Obama.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/5l3mxl
Every man I know who supports here says she’s strong and decisive and most successful men admire that in ANYBODY, regardless of gender. Unless of course they have issues involving their mothers or their own ‘manliness’ is attached to subjugation of women. Seriously. Funny how men I don’t like don’t like her. they are all Republicans too.
**GALLUP DAILY: Obama/Clinton in Statistical Tie & Clinton Does Better Against McCain**
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Read it:http://www.gallup.com/poll/107176/Ga…ling-Away.aspx
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama isn’t likely to pick rival Hillary Clinton as a running mate, according to one of his most prominent supporters. “I don’t think it’s possible,” Massachusetts Senator Edward Kennedy said in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital With Al Hunt,” airing this weekend.
Kennedy, 76, without naming names, said Obama should pick someone who “is in tune with his appeal for the nobler aspirations of the American people. If we had real leadership — as we do with Barack Obama — in the No. 2 spot as well, it’d be enormously helpful,” Kennedy said.
What a terrible terrible thing to say. The Obama camp should disavow it. Unless he said it at their behest. In which case, we are gonna lose in November.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/9/17419/80068
yes, yes we all should strive to take bribes from terrorist connected Syrians.
Anybody got Rezko’s phone number?
TED, PUT THE VODKA BOTTLE DOWN…
Maybe it should be “Boozers for Obama”!
Actually, it would be kinda nice if Obama himself were in tune with his appeal for the nobler aspirations of the American people.
I seem to remember that the Clintons came to Ted’s aid when he was in danger of losing his senate seat. They both campaigned for him in Massachusetts. Obama advocates have not been loyal to 2 highly respected people who advanced the Democratic Party, greatly. If I were the Clintons, I would start living the good life…if Obama wins the nomination. Why should they help a Party whose leadership has treated them so shabbily?
I betcha there’s something fishy going on there. Can’t wait to check it out!
O.K., that post goes somewhere else. Just for the record, though, I wrote Kennedy a nasty note, saying that he and Barry are two peas in a pod, and Ted needs to get a clue!
Done with Kennedy’s fat drunken A**!
They need to unseat his arse.
I agree it probably wasn’t the best thing to say. But it’s important to note that Obama didn’t say it. Obama has no say over what Kennedy says, I don’t think anybody does at this point.
I’m not sure who Obama chooses as VP and I’m not even sure Clinton wants the job - although my feeling is from what George Steph said that she does. Maybe I’m wrong.
Pick her? WTF? She wouldn’t pick HIM. She wouldn’t be caught standing next to that loser and be his ‘assistant’. Why on earth would she make him look good in an election. She would never hold up that weakling. She should let him fry and just come back on the I Told You So in four years. I wouldn’t give that slug one of my voters if I were her.
A solid endorsement, Amb.Wilson has major credentials for helping develop stronger foreign relations, most notably with African nations.
These countries are essential middle ground for containment strategy against terror here. There, many of those states find selves on the front line of the same struggles, and need humanitarian and security help.
Effective diplomacy is still the best tool against crisis escalation.
If it came to looking at our forgiegn policy as it may look on the 21st century board game of Risk…
Effective diplomacy is still the best tool against crisis escalation
Joe Wilson looks a lot different than he used to.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/9/163115/6957
What do Mike Dukakis and John Kerry have in common? They were from Massachusetts and they had images as being soft. It is ironic that the one leading Democratic Presidential candidate who has overcome the “mommy” party problem is a woman — Hillary Clinton. Susan Faludi explains:
[W]hite men are warming to Hillary Clinton — at least enough to vote for her. It’s no small shift. These men have historically been her fiercest antagonists. Their conversion may point less to a new kind of male voter than to a new kind of female vote-getter.
Strong American men were always, ARE, among the most decent in the world, willing to give others a chance, treating them as peers, even learning to accept the emancipation of women, supporting them.
And it’s been my experience strong American men (as opposed to the Rush Limbaugh’s or the Howard Sterns say, who deplore and mock feminism)have always inspired the most respect in men of other nations.
Meaning they will mess with, and laugh at, a Karl Rove, but not a Joe Wilson.
Neil Young:
But the wimpy big money men are on their way out, I have faith.
Oh come on! It’s CONSERVATIVE white men that haven’t liked her. These are Democrats voting for her! I’m a white man and I voted for her in 2006 for Senate ( I live in New York ) … This is a real stretch.
Thank you Joe and Valerie. I’m so happy we get call SF your new home.
Re: Sonia
WOW. Ted Kennedy is a complete ass for saying that.
NO
ACTUALLY ,, he was just being himself a arrogant,snob,friend and part of a group called ::assholes:::
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/9/135248/7567
Obama wins the nomination (and it looks like he will now), everyone who voted for Hillary in the primary needs to vote for John McCain in November. It makes perfect sense. Hillary, as we all know, is a policy wonk. She has a firm grasp and is well versed on all the issues that matter most to Americans. That is the appeal of the Hillary candidacy. It has nothing to do with the symbolism or historical significance of a woman president; it’s not a white person thing; it has nothing to do with her husband’s presidency. It’s all about policy.
So let’s examine the issues and the stances taken by all three candidates. Afterwards you will all understand very clearly why Hillary supporters could never vote for Barack Obama and must defect to John McCain in November: All data gathered from OnTheIssues.org, except where otherwise linked. All Boldface print indicates where the candidates agree.
YOU GUYS MUST READ
AND PASS IT ON
WE SHOULD MAKE HILL WIN
OR VOTE MCCAIN
That article is completely sarcastic. It is really suggesting Clinton supporters would never vote for McCain.
There are always the green party and libertarians!
It may be trying to suggest that Clinton supporters would never vote for McCain, but in reality it just highlights Obama’s shortcomings when compared with Clinton and McCain. The flaw in their argument is that no matter what Obama says his policies are, he is such a liar that he cannot be relied on to do anything to back it up or put it into effect. That he copies plans and policies from Hillary and puts them up on his website as his views doesn’t mean squat as far as what old Hopey/Dopey/Changey would really do.
Remember there are two issues on which he has already been caught lying about what he would do if elected - NAFTA and the Iraq War.
And remember how he told the Maytag workers he would work to preserve their jobs, but never lifted a finger to help them. And remember the residents of Rezko’s apartments who shivered without heat in the winter just a short distance away from Mr. Wonderful’s place. And the watered down Exelon bill that didn’t even pass.
Hillary is the only candidate of the three that can be counted on to have the right policies and be willing to work to put them into practice. Obama will just talk a good game and do nothing to help anyone except himself and his big-money backers.
At least McCain is on the right side of a few issues and is willing to fight for them. It wasn’t Obama who had to write McCain a letter basically saying, “I apologize for not being able to sooner recognize what a lying dog you are.”
All the pro-Obama people are really pulling out the stops to try to get Hillary out of the race before he suffers defeats in the next contests. I hope she takes this all the way to the convention. If the automatic delegates don’t have any more balls than to go ahead and nominate Hopey/Dopey/Changey when it is obvious he is unqualified and unelectable and is only ahead because of unethical and dishonest tactics, then I’ll have no problem voting for McCain.
I’m not a Reagan Democrat. I have voted for the Democratic nominee every election since Carter, but party loyalty takes a backseat to loyalty to this country. Always before I truly believed the Democratic candidate was more qualified than anyone else. If Obama is the nominee this time, I will know that not to be true. I will never vote for someone with so few qualifications and so many unsavory advisers and companions.
How Howard Dean, Teddy Kennedy, Donna Brazile, John Kerry and Barack Obama could screw up this opportunity for the Democratic Party is just unbelievable. And if they and the authors of that post truly believe we won’t vote for McCain, they’re even stupider than I now think. Heckuva job, idiots.
party loyalty takes a backseat to loyalty to this country
Amen. Just as thinking takes a backseat to just following blindly.
How is Obama a liar?!?! Clinton is the one who has been caught lying (Bosnia) … I mean… It’s just headshaking!
Your argument that Obama supporters out before she wins the next 3 contest is completely wrong. First of all because Obama will win Oregon. Second of all because Clinton has such a massive lead in WV & Kentucky that she would almost definitely win even if she conceded which would actually be a embarrassing for Obama - this has lead some people to speculate she’s actually staying in until May 20 to save him that embarrassment. That would be a really really classy thing if she’s doing it for that reason.
It’s about who will “get ‘er done”.
It’s about who is the motivator.
What?!?!?! McCain is for continuing the war for another 100 years. He’s for NO health care improvements. He’s for a continuation of the Bush for the wealthy only economy. He’s anti-choice. He’s going to appoint more conservative SC judges. He’s for torture. He’s basically wrong on EVERY major issue facing America and diametrically opposed to both Barack Obama & Hillary Clinton.
I agree that you should vote on the issues - if you support Clinton because of the issues then you will also support Obama in November because of the issues. Clinton herself would obviously 100% agree.
I have found by and large that most folks who support Sen. Clinton do so because she IS so qualified AND experienced, and on top of those crucial prerequisites for the job of president are her positions on many important/critical issues. Said another way, regardless of how similarly Clinton and Obama may seem or actually be on the issues (as you say), the vast majority of those who chose to vote for Clinton and NOT Obama did so because he is so obviously lacking in appropriate experience and qualifications. His resume has got to be the absolute thinnest of any candidate who’s ever gotten this remotely close to the nomination. (At least at this point in his young political career.) It’s really that simple. I mean, we are talking about POTUS after all.
Hillary is fighting for the nomination because SHE WANTS THE JOB. She is challenged by the hard work that awaits her in cleaning up all the Bush messes. Hard work does not deter or distract or bore her.
O-Boy is pushing/hoping to be “selected” by the DNC and supers because he wants the POSITION of president. That is VERY different than actually wanting the job. Over the past 18 months of following the campaigns and the nomination process ever-so-carefully, Sen. Obama has never struck me as someone with “fire in the belly” for the most formidable position — and JOB — of leading this country. Never.
I wholeheartedly acknowledge his gift and ability to deliver well-crafted speeches. That’s what he’s got to offer. Along with his message of hope and change. The beautiful rhetoric is simply not enough. Not by a long-shot.
Being a good — and especially a great — president of this country takes a lot of hard work. I mean actually DOING the hard work. Day after day after day. Nose to the grindstone. Especially if done right. And especially in these times.
Witness the current occupant of the White House. For the past 7-1/2 years. God help us. Enough said.
It’s incredibly amusing that you didn’t even read that article which is actually saying the exact opposite of what you are. It’s saying that no thinking Clinton supporter would ever support McCain because he’s the exact opposite of Clinton on all issues while Obama is very similar to Clinton on the issues.
Read it again - it’s actually a very good article -> http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/9/135248/7567
Their word is golden. They know better than anyone what the next POTUS faces in terms of national security, international relations & sorting out badly, badly compromised agencies. We’re headed for a wall & hope & change is insufficient to say the least. We can’t afford a Democratic vanity president who over promised & under delivers & underestimates the power brokers.
He’s swimming with sharks & believes in his own exceptionalism- that they won’t turn on him. What a fool.
Hillary has an excellent window into the convoluted history of how we got to where we are- she’s got a ferocious headstart on the job, let her go forward & start the process of getting us out of the muck. O!s posturing & rhetoric is precisely that- posturing & rhetoric. She has seen political movements come & go, whether the 70s or the K Street / Third Wave, or the attempted Dean coup- she has seen what the Kerry wing of the party hath wrought last time out! He didn’t count the votes either!!!!
She has seen state governance, how it intersects with federal power, she knows the proper scope of the presidency & has said she will scale back the unitary executive, she fought in a visionary manner for health care & I believe her when she says she will go to the mat for it, she served on the House Armed Services Committee & has the backing of Wes Clark & two joint chiefs, as well as many other military folk.
Every agency & major service we have is broken. I beg the superdelegates not to field Barack Obama- he is woefully flawed.
Unitary executive, and Obama.
Great point.
I firmly believe McCain has it in him to do the right thing, BUT, so much of his policy, and thinking seems to be determined by lobbyists.
Just like the hamster, bama.
And who knows who pushes McCain around within the republican party, like Addington and Cheney do Bush?
Clinton, just be her refusal to go negative, has proven she can be trusted, she is in fact Presidential caliber.
Her refusal to go negative? What planet do you live on?! Her campaign has been relentlessly negative for months now! It’s Obama’s campaign that has held back.
Fabulous ad. What happened to Ambassador Wilson, Valerie Plame, and their family after years of patriotic service to the country is beyond comprehension. So glad that they are standing up for what is right, despite what they’ve gone through, including at the hands of certain portions of the lefty blogosphere.
One thing Obama’s team has been very good at is code language. People have talked before about how he has used code language such as “bamboozle” and “lost his bearings.” While being happy enough to say others are wrong about this or that position, Obama must also get in a not-so-subtle dig that has a particular sting. Racism or ageism in these two cases.
And whether or not he meant to “give the finger” during that press conference, he cannot be 48 years old and have no idea what the audience was reacting to when he “innocently” scratched his face. Either it was the most juvenile act I’ve ever seen a candidate do OR he was completely clueless about what he was doing and the audience’s reaction. Neither possibility bodes well.
Another issue I have is what I call either the “Brawley effect” or the “lacrosse effect.” You cannot question Obama on any issue because it is suddenly a racist act. This necessitates time and energy defending the right to ask and often losing the question in the process. Guilty until a negative is proven. The Brawley effect because it is often a cynical lie and the lacross effect because it often tars many people at once, indiscriminately.
Shelby Steele talks about the extreme measures whites will go to avoid being labeled racist. He says it is probably the worst label white Americans could get stuck with these days, and they know it. (I can’t quote from memory, but look in either The Content of Our Character: A New Vision of Race In America or Dream Deferred: The Second Betrayal of Black Freedom in America.)
I also think code language is also used to suggest to whites that questioning is inherently racist.
People have forgotten what the true meaning of the word means. “Superiority” Think Obama has it?
He was using two fingers when he scratched his face. The audience was responding to what he was SAYING not his fingers on his face, most of the audience couldn’t even see him for God’s sake. There’s just so many paranoid ideas floating around.
Off topic but I just saw a rather strange article.
‘I want to rip (Bill Clinton’s) eyes out. Kidding!’
Michelle Obama’s latest gaffe: ‘See, this is what gets me into trouble’
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=63532
I can only conclude that Michelle Obama is really twisted and weird! What an utterly bizarre comment to make.
I guess we know now where Samantha Power got her inspiration for her comment about Hillary being a “monster.” Michelle Obama - no role model for my family.
First that Ad was to the point and bore no spin. Just two principled Americans telling it like is is. Thanks.
Second, Role models…Great point Nelsons…
Looking at the facts surrounding The Obama’s involvement with the “church” and the pulpits anti-social, isolationist message, I wonder about the way these two will react to the inter-pressures of the WH. I keep seeing Michelle O having a Dick Cheney moment, only to relize she has spent years rejecting the symbolism of Motel 1600.
“You gotta hide it from the kids.”
Not to mention juvenile and immature. First lady material?
Yep.
Some have said she, and her husband will never see the White House, ever, because of their behavior.
How Kennedy, and Dean miss this, and they do, is breathtaking, especially given their ages.
What is the inspiration for your username?
For God’s sake. ITS A JOKE. Invest in a sense of humor!
15,000 votes extra? Chicago-style politics in action.
Call me a racist. I don’t care anymore. I won’t forgive the AAs for voting for a nit wit just because he is black. They could care less about America. There are so many experienced, ethical, stand-up AAs prepared and ready to serve this nation and what do we get - Bambi. AAs must see what we see. They know he is a big empty suit. He is not what MLK would be proud of and he certainly isn’t what I have been waiting for. Call me a racist, go ahead.
Yup, that’s pretty darn racist actually. Did you know that Clinton was actually winning the AA vote in polls as late as December?! It wasn’t until they got to know him that they decided to vote for him in the numbers they are doing.
Do you think Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton got this kind of support from the black community? No. They didn’t.
And I’m a college educated white male and I don’t see what you see either.
Are you angry at college educated whites as well because we also vote for Barack Obama. Are we also all fooled because we don’t see what you see?
I think Barack Obama is an exceptional candidate regardless of his race. If he were white he’d be a great candidate as well. If he were a woman he’d be a great candidate. It’s not his race or his sex that matters. It’s the way in which he speaks and the judgment and character he has shown.
The great respect that he shows for Hillary Clinton right now when it’s clear he will be the next nominee is a great example of that judgment and character.
Thank you Joe and Val!!!!
Foreign policy has been on my mind today and I wrote a blog pertaining to three items in the news with a question about Obama’s lack of experience.
Please check it out! Lots of good info there about these issues:
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/
“Today’s Foreign News that Obama Probably Doesn’t Know a Thing About…”
Posted on May 9, 2008 by GRL
Who can forget that interview way back in 2000 when George W. Bush was asked who was heading Pakistan? Bush dismissively answered that it was some general and that it didn’t matter if he couldn’t recall the name, because he would be surrounded by advisers who knew all this stuff.
Were you impressed then? I sure wasn’t and I’m not impressed with Obama’s “expertise” on foreign policy either. His policies speeches may in large part come chapter and verse straight from the party platform and he can buddy all he wants with Jimmy Carter…but that sort of “foreign policy by association” doesn’t cut it with me, especially after seeing Bush and Cheney in action. Spending a few years in Indonesia as a kid, having a dubious relationship with Odinga in Africa, and never having the curiosity to explore Europe doesn’t count either.
So, when I ask if Obama knows the name of the current Japanese prime minister it’s because I want to see his ATTITUDE when he answers. Is he going to act like Bush?
I wake up to the BBC World Service news every morning via shortwave radio and in about 5 minutes I learn more than I could ever learn from the American media. Today was a BIG NEWS DAY on at least 3 fronts–Russia, Lebanon, and, yes, Japan. Having followed a lot of the related news while churning out the World Media Watch for Buzzflash for quite a few years, the stories I heard really woke me up, fast! Because the spectre of Obama (or McCain) reacting to some of the situations reported gave me a kick in the gut.
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via shortwave radio ?
his ATTITUDE;
Wind in the halyards at night?
With all the coms in this country and the TV set has nothing on but obtuse commentary.
What makes you so negative about Barack Obama? He’s clearly an intelligent fellow who keeps up with what’s going on in the world. For one he’s shown a far greater command of what’s going on in Iraq & in Iran than Clinton has.
Plus it was Obama who had the judgment to know that Iraq was a mistake from the start.
Why are the Clintonites going to waste their vote on McCain or not vote at all. Why don’t we just convince Hillary to run as Independent or Centrist Democratic Party in the General Election. Once she declares her candidacy in the GE,it is going to be a totally different ballgame. Also,that way, we can still exercise our right of suffrage.
Good luck to Hillary.
Well, despite what we’re being sold, she’s right up there, this is just another attempt to diminish hope, it’s so predictble, anyone can read it.
Boy, I bet a guy like Joe Wilson must make them CRAZY, he being brilliant, and brave, and they, well, Karl Rove all the way.
I wonder if Cheney or Obama ever feel the less for never having WON an election, on merit?
I would vote for Senator Clinton if she was on the ballot. Period. Bring it on.
It is possible electorally to make that work.
Any one know of this senerio being configured on the electoral map?
Third parties never win - the current system does not allow for it. Sadly, efforts to push for “instant run-off” voting seem to be stillborn.
Despite that, I’m at the point where if Obama is the nominee, I’m writing in Hillary Clinton’s name in November.
Yup
Obama gets Colorado
Hillary takes the blue states including MI & FL
McCain takes the Red states and Hillary wins.
Karl Rove himself has mapped it out.
Clinton would destroy the Democratic party by running as a 3rd party and probably more important to her - she’d destroy her career.
I have to hand it to the Wilson couple for sticking to their values (and they are by no means BITTER FOLKS). Wasn’t Ambassador Wilson JFKerry’s foreign policy expert in 04? They must know something that millions of Obamans don’t know (or refuse to accept) - which millions of HRC voters and potential McCain voters know: THE OTHER GUY IS A FRAUD WITH NO IDEOLOGICAL/MORAL COMPASS WHOSE FRIENDS WE CANNOT TRUST. Time for a revamp of the Democratic Party!
That’s a lot to gather from one endorsement. Why don’t all of the endorsements for Obama mean the same thing about Clinton?
Kinda like a skinny Uncle Clarence Thomase!
New motto: The “Creativity Class” Has Neither
Love love love it!
Excellent Oregon ad!
Two great people who really have the courage of their convictions.
I saw it tonight on TV during dinnertime. It made me feel good.
It’s a genuine plea. But Obamabots have no need for genuine.
This video is yet another example of how Joe and Valerie Wilson continue to remain loyal to Hillary Clinton. Like the candidate they support, this couple is unwavering, they are steadfast, they are solid.
Straight on ’till morning to the both of you. You have my respect and admiration to the bitter end.
Where’s Heather’s comment? I saw it earlier about The London Times story on Barack and Hamas? Did the upgrade take it out?
LOVE IT!!
Thank you Valerie and Joe! I think you two are AWESOME Americans!
Hillary is lucky to have your endorsement as well as Larry Johnson’s and the rest of the NoQuarter Crew!
The Best!
Why so angry, Susan?
You are in a rage 24/7. That is not normal.
Anger - even rage - that is warranted is normal. You are in a trance, “Kay”. Obamans like you will need years of counseling and anti-depression medication.
It’s the machine no?
What an excellent ad! I wish we had it for WI. I love them both–they are amazing!
Good ad. It doesn’t mention Obama. That’s the kind of ad that is acceptable!
But I do think it actually helps Obama more than Clinton - any mention of Iraq only reminds people that Obama was against the war from the beginning and Clinton voted for it.
You do know that Obama wasnt in the Senate then don’t ya?
Time is not Barky’s friend.
Holy crimeny… You all are a bunch of koolaid drinkers… Richard Armitage who left the Bush administration in 2004 along with his pal Colin Powell was the guy who admitted leaking Valerie’s identity as an employee of the CIA. Richard left Bush in 2004, and “the leak” occured in 2005. Are you all so mindless that you still allow the Democrats to feed you this idea that the Bush administration was behind it all? Armitage was an anti Bush! She was outed by one of your own!! Her lawsuit was thrown out as baseless! Do some reading folks! Wikipedia Valerie Plame or Richard Armitage and get the real story. No wonder the Democrats have superdelegates - to protect their party from stupid, mindless voters.