The Hell with P.C.: The Republicans Have Obama Nailed with This New Ad
By SusanUnPC on May 9, 2008 at 1:32 PM in Barack Obama, Republicans
And any Democrat dumb enough to vote for this loser will be rewarded with a John McCain presidency anyway because — fortunately — the majority of Americans aren’t as gullible.






















WOW!!! well it has started I say good for the republican party lets see how the Obama camp like those apples, cant say Hillary did not warn them, this is just the beginning of things to come.
The Republicans must own Rasmussen polls because when I checked over there today, this is what I found!
I used to go over there every day, but I just removed them from my bookmarks. Like I’ve removed MSNBC and CNN from my TV viewing.
Pretty soon you want be reading newspaper, watching ANY TV, etc. All you’ll be doing is checking these delusional blogs for Hill. Kinda of a suspended reality. You guys are like Eviline from the WIZ “Don’t nobody bring me no bad news”. lol lol lol.
Not only have I removed them, I’ve taken myself off of the Michael Moore email list, and will probably cancel my TIME subscription after this week’s cover. DONE WITH ALL OF THESE PEOPLE.
I have officially decided to register as an Independent. I’ve been a registered Democrat for the last 18 years, but am DONE with this party. Of course I can never give my vote to a Republican, but I want them to know that they do not have me. Dean is a piece of crap! As horrible as it’s going to be, I may have a slight smile on my face when McCain is sworn in. Big F U to the biased party leaders. Congrats on another addition to the Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry line-up.
I have officially decided to register as an Independent. I’ve been a registered Democrat for the last 18 years, but am DONE with this party. Of course I can never give my vote to a Republican, but I want them to know that they do not have me. Dean is a piece of crap! As horrible as it’s going to be, I may have a slight smile on my face when McCain is sworn in. Big F U to the biased party leaders. Congrats on another addition to the Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry line-up.
and so it begins…
Actually, it gets worse from here on out.
It sure does. I can think of miles of video footage I’ve seen that can easily be spliced together to show his message of change. I think this, changed my mind - now, I think that. Endless opportunities for opposition to clobber him with his own words. JUST words.
It sure does. There are miles of video tape that could bury Obama in his own WORDS. Just Words. He just keeps changing them.
Good grief, Susan. This are just straight questions for him to answer not the swift boat ones. Believe me, they are coming.
No Shit. This is the stuff they consider “Above the belt”. The stealth stuff will be lethal.
Seriously those are very legitimate questions that he has been able to escape for the past 16 months. Let’s see how he gets out of all of these. Say hello to a John McCain presidency!
BTW, I want to add that even though McCain is saying he wants the court to overturn Roe vs. Wade, I don’t think that will happen. I think he is just more or less pandering to the conservative base that he needs to win back. He won’t do any such thing.
How come when Obama says something you don’t like, your reaction is “OMG he’s a traitor he’s gonna destroy the country!!1!!1″
But when McCain says something you don’t like, your reaction is “he didn’t mean it?”
His track record. I’ve been following him for years. He’s a known, known. Obama is what Rummy reffered to as a unknown-known.
I liked the 2000 version of McCain, when he bucked the mainstream Republicans with his (to them) controversial views on campaign finance reform, pork spending, etc. I voted for him in the primary that year.
But I’m afraid that because he’s now the Republican’s guy for the nomination, he’ll dilute his progressive ideas to kowtow to the Republican party. They guy shared a stage with W., a man he HATES, just to show mainstream Republican voters that he’s in the same boat as W. and his neo-con buddies.
The republicans have ruined this country, and I will not vote republican again until a MAJOR rehaul of their positions takes place.
Be it Hillary or Obama, I’m voting Democrat in ‘08.
//voted for Ron Paul in this primary
///switched to Hillary after Paul dropped out
////recently switched to Obama
Just keep telling yourself that, so you don’t feel so stupid for voting him. Just plain retarded.
We could ask McCain all these questions too - and get some pretty horrifying answers.
BTW, will you be fundraising for republican attack ads now?
Haven’t decided, Gypsy.
Did YOU fundraise for all the Obama attack ads against Hillary Clinton?
You ain’t seen NUTHIN yet, little darlin.
Well, for a supposed democrat, you seem pretty excited about the republican attack ads coming our way. I think you’re going to be disappointed when it turns out that Hillary doesn’t support McCain.
Exactly. I really think these people are out to lunch. Do they care at all about the actual issues? Why would any real Democrat who supported Clinton because of the issues support McCain over Obama? It makes NO logical sense. None.
why would any real democrat support Obama? We will support McCain in droves if Obama is elected as we simply do not like him, his wife or his friends:) Simple enough.
“… coming our way.” Obama is not our way.
“Supposed Democrat..”. Who and what are you to insult others? A stupid twit is what you are.
I’m meant that I am “supposing” or “presuming” that you are a democrat if you support Hillary. But you knew that.
What we know, but apparently you trolls do not, is that the more you come here to slander Hillary and insult us, the more determined we are to support her and see that Obama never becomes President. Your actions are self-defeating, but since I would prefer either Clinton or McCain over Obama, please do keep it up.
What? I’m slandering Hillary because I’m predicting that she’ll be supporting whoever the democratic nominee is in November, rather than McCain?
What are you going to do once SHE starts supporting Obama?
Nothing! We will do everything in our pwer to make sure that Obama doesn’t become President. That is all.
But Gypsy, Obama can’t possibly accept support from Clinton……she’s much too racist, and that might offend the last bastion of support he has: AA’s.
ROFLMAO
Plus we DONATE $$$ to Hillary when you trolls get a response.
I’m keeping track of how often I feel the need to respond to trolls and donate to Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
i guess that means she is a much better democrat that michelle(i’ll have think about it) obama.
MO is very irksome.
Now, THAT was an Understatement!
The Republican attack ads are not coming the Democrats way - they are coming Obama’s way.
If I had a choice between Obama and anyone else who is experienced and responsible, I will choose anyone else. I believe what has been said here. Obama is unqualified. Period. As far as his character - you are measured by the company you keep. In Obama’s case the company he keeps is unsavory.
We are looking at another McGovern and the best we can do is make sure we do better in four years.
Obama is the most unqualified candidate any party has had probably in U.S. history. If we were to list Obama’s accomplishments they would be zero between his national and state offices. I would rather have a John McCain for four years and look for a better candidate in 2012 (a much more accomplished and formidable Hillary).
Just because you have a “(D)” after your name does not automatically qualify you for office.
Obama’s legislation:
Ill. state senate:
820 bills he introduced
233 healthcare reform
125 poverty & public assistance
112 crime fighting bills
97 economic bills
60 human rights & anti-discrimnination bills
21 ethics reform bills
15 gun control
6 veterns affairs & many more…
1st Year in US Senate authored 152 bills & Co-Sponsored 427:
1) The Coburn-Obama Goverment Transparency Act of 2006- BECAME LAW
2) The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-Proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act- BECAME LAW
3) The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act -
PASSED THE SENATE
4) The 2007 Goverment Ethics Bill- BECAME LAW
5) The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill- IN COMMITTEE AND MANY MORE..
In all, since entering the US Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 Bills and co-sponsored another 1096.
gypsy howell, I thought you and Obama and Donna Brazille decided that we were not Democrats. That we belong to the “old coalition.” That we are racists.
Since you belong to the Obama wing, we kind of figured we were not welcome and decided to go our way.
Savvy!
It won’t matter Gypsy what we think; what matters is what ordinary Americans think.
They aren’t coming “our”way Gypsy. they are coming YOUR way.
And I shall enjoy it.
gypsy howell | 2008-05-09 13:49:39 well, for a supposed democrat, you seem pretty excited about the republican attack ads coming our way. I think you’re going to be
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If we all know Obama is the bottom of the barrel that the DNC scraped up…then yes we will support McCain, or we can all write-in Hillary Clinton in the area provided on the ballot. The Democratic party has left us no alternative!
Hey I heard they want to give Obama all of Edwards’ and the other’s votes in Michigan plus all the uncommitted so that the Baby Jesus can have nearly as many delegates as Hillary. That’s right, even people who voted for somebody get to give their votes to Barky. I think that’s some kind of Affirmative Action thing don’t you?
Not excited at all, gypsy. But the candidate you support is poorly equipped to deal with what’s coming his way. Too many pillows have been provided.
Did you hear about Obama’s campaign advisor who was secretly meeting with Hamas in Gaza? Obama had to fire him because the international papers reported it yesterday.
GAWD, the man is so incredibly not ready.
He’s really more like Dukakis than McGovern, don’t you think?
Gyps babe, clinton is still in.
Careful not to bite Obama’s trash.
How do you figure?
No. But I intend to — as they say make politics local. Give directly to the Democrats here on the ground. Vote write in for Hillary or for McCain and then Democrat for the rest who deserve it. Never again will I simply look for the “D” and make an “x.” Those days are gone.
When you deny voters the right to vote, you lose the moral high ground to the Republicans. Do you all SIMPLY forget Florida? Jesus Christ!!! And you ask me if I’m a Democrat!?! Who the hell are you to ask me?
They are the far left wing fringe of loonies that are going to push the country into another Republican presidency because of their ultra-left nutwing ideology that MOST Americans want nothing to do with. You ask if we are Democrats? Are you truly Americans who will vote for someone who has terrorists for friends? What’s wrong with you- you little idiots? Are you the same people who think that 9/11 was a good thing like Rev Wright?
Go take your gyrating mouths over to some other watering hole you dumb herd of mindless mustangs!
Yes gypsy howell. Another edition of simple answers to simple questions.
By simple people?
Yes compared to elites like you.
Hi Gypsy…..McCains answers would be different. Obama is too much of an unknown to give the keys of the country too.
I am a lifelong democrat and I will work with and for the Republican to keep Obama away from the White House. That includes money.
Whatever it takes to defeat Barack Obama. Is that clear enough?
You see, there’s no need for Republicans to run “attack” ads. All they have to do is ask a few questions. Funny, those questions seem awfully familiar to me.
I had the same thought- haven’t we and Larry and Susan, ALegre, texas darlin, Linfar and a host of others been asking those very same questions. for MONTHS?
We can all repeat the Obama answer now- “How dare you question ‘The One?’ You are a racist for asking questions.”
Hah! The questions are not going away- those are the first grade questions. He fails the first grade test and wants a pass to the next grade?? Leave that child behind!
Whatever it takes to defeat Barack Obama.
Agree, sj.
And Obama and his supporters will not be able to depend on Clinton supporters to help defend him……..he and Brazille and Bowers have already thrown the rest of us under the bus.
They will EAT OBAMA ALIVE, and most of the white, working class Axelrod offended will believe every word of the ads.
That “new Democratic coalition” Brazille spoke about?
Not gonna be enough.
I agree Mary - I don’t like being under that bus, do you? For the past few months, Their hatred, and calling anyone rascist who dares to disagree with them, I’ve had it - I’ve never voted republican - but I am not voting for this fraud. I have never seen such cocky and hatefull people as his supporters, that speaks volumes right there.
I want to see him FALL.
Well said!
I am an extrem libral, academic /artist, volvo driving, life long democrat who speaks out against Barack and feared I’m viewed as not PC (which frankly is impossible). Why doesn’t Washington (Democratic Party) and America see through him? There is much hate and anger coming from that man and his history? I don’t get it. Really. Is there a reason? Why is the Democratic Party putting us in the postion to lose again? Hillary was our only chance / hope.
Some one fill me in.
We don’t know either. It’s probably some race guilt thing.
Evil is working in many ways. Obama is the answer to the thugs & goons, mostly anti-America. This info is documented. For America to embrace Obama, because of his rhetorics which are shallow & empty, is beyond me.Recently, one person was asked why she likes Obama, her dumb answer, “because he is young!” How about Barbara Walters, when Obama was the guest at her show, The Views”, she was so delirious & exclaimed to him:”You are so good-looking!”(no wonder, this woman is a family wrecker, had a secret, illicit affair with a married Black lawmaker for several years!)Isn’t the devil busy nowadays?
Obama will damn America!!Beware!Michelle, his racist wife, did NOT denounce her anti-America pastor! Obama did so FOR POLITICS! HE IS A PHONY!!!I am as bewildered as you, my friend.
GOD SAVE AMERICA!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
It sure seem like there are many tangled webs to unravel to get to the bottom of WHY OBAMA?
I am just an average gal - an artist and a breeder of chickens (really!) So what seems to be coming together from the perspective of this average gal is that there seem to be at least 2 forces at play here. We know that the Repubs hate the Clintons, and I have heard some comments from Hillary to the effect that this administration should be held accountable for the mess they have created.(Sorry, I cannot quote or site where I heard this - just relying on my memory). So GWB and Cheney are probably using some of their resources to make sure Hillary doesn’t have a successful campaign. And I am figuring these guys have a good bit of pull from some of the big money monopolies, right? Thus the reason for the media being so biased, etc. Plus the fact that most of the commentators are idiots anyway.
Then what looks like the second power at play is the DNC itself with their elites, and it appears that Hillary’s candidacy is threatening to rock their boat, too.
All because Obama is a pliable “yes man” and Hillary is really wanting to help Americans. And the people are too blind to see.
Now where all these webs go and who all is involved lies outside of my realm of expertise, and I will leave it up to the experts here to untangle these webs of deceit! I sure hope things come together before it’s too late. Hillary Clinton simply must be our President.
I am just a typical old white woman. the best answer I can come up with is that the DNC wants a loser so a Dem doesn’t get saddled with Iraq.
Nothing else makes sense- they absolutely know he is a loser if they give him the nod.
Me too, Layla. And Teddy Kennedy, Tom Daschle, and John Kerry with him.
Arrogant elitists, one and all.
Ya got to love the republicans.
Actually you don’t have to love the Republicans. I hate the Republicans for destroying this country. Do you remember the Iraq war? Do you remember 4000 American soldiers dead and another 30,000 injured? Do you remember the economy going down the tubes and the average family making less $ today than they did 8 years ago? Do you remember Bush’s horrible SC justice appointees? For God’s sake. THIS IS NOT A GAME. Wake up!
And, do you remember that we told you all these same things months ago and that the R.A.M. (Republican Attack Machine) was getting revved up to tear Obama’s ass up?? But, no. You guys were busy smoking hopium and taking tokes on change splifs. You should have thought about all of this before YOU GUYS bullied Hillary supporters around! Screw you if you think I’m going to vote for him.
Oh, puhleeeeze. If you really cared as much as you pretend you do, you would have supported the one candidate that can beat McCain in November. Instead you drank the flavor-aid and joined the cult of hopey-changey becaue “he’s different”, “he gives me hope”. “He will change Washington.” Never mind the guy has NO EXPERIENCE. Never Mind the guy can’t win the damn elction.
Don’t lecture me about the Iraq war. Don’t you dare lecture me about working class people making less $$$ (your guy just through them under the bus, remember?) and don’t you DARE lecture me about the SCOTUS. IF you Obamarhoids truly cared you would never support someone like BO. Take your lectures somewhere else. I’m sick of hearing them.
Hm, Mr troll, perhaps YOU’RE being opsed.
NO matter what happens to Clinton, if McCain needs to be diapered, you’re opening more holes than wet soil full of Nitrogen.
You wanted to cheat, it’s YOUR system, but thanks for the keys.
Damn You are smart people!
we are awake. that pathetic here is you aren’t.
He thinks he is, see, you ask Cheney, say, why his straussian neocon methods don’t, didn’t work, and he can’t tell you, he’ll deny it, and say ,w ell, we need more troops in Iraq.
But you ask an academic, and strong unbiased one, about proving a negative, which is what Starussian theory is, or does, for many reasons, and he’ll be able to tell you WHY it, and say, Alinsky don’t work.
(Didn’t you do this in college, troll, boy, we did, having to argue and provide a proof of a subjective, the profs encouraging dissension to hammer out the best meaning, meaning never set as new interpretations were always emerging, as they should…)
We used to have leaders the quality of THAT academic. Rove’s and Axel’s methods of cheating have left us with crippled candidates who don’t understand simple abstracts, simple poetry, even.
So, we descend into a third world country, legislators no more capable than say Saddam’s thinking, in terms of the war, and economy.
IS it a 100 year war?
Well, no, you’ve got two sides trying ot prove a negative, so it’s internecine, (I will find the chemical equation that is the corollary, maybe that will help, but again, with this group of half wits, the ability to grasp a philosophical abstract is not an option).
But see this internecine war, born of stupid neocons, and thie Obama counterparts, can be hacked, and worked by people who undersatnd what I just wrote.
Is the country in trouble?
Yes.
Why?
But Mr. Music I thought Hillary started this war, I thought the tenure of Bills presidency wasn’t what the American people wanted, I tought Hillary and Bill never knew the ideas of Civil Rights after all you all have been claiming they are and her supporters are aking to dixiecrats. For months Hillar has been the evil Bit*h and so to her supporters, so why are you here exactly?
Oh Roe v. Wade you think you can bring the little “liberal women” back into the fold? LOL I would vote for McCain in a heartbeat over obama, Hillary over all, but McCain isn’t a rightwing crackhead nor a leftwing crackhead. Did you know obama voted for cheney’s energy bill and Hillary and McCain did not? Did you know that obama lied to iowans claiming he passed legistlation holding the nuclear industry and when they did a little whining and paid him large sums of money he allowed them to rewrite the bill which gave them carte blanche? of course you do, its just he is a man, isn’t it. One thing McCain isn’t and that is a fraud, neither is Hillary, however, obama is the biggest con artist I have seen since bush.
I agree, and I agree with what Mimi wrote the other day. She said something to the effect of “Let other women fight for their reproductive rights, just like her generation had to”. I feel the same way. Women of the 60’s and 70’s fought hard for the rights of other women…and when the first woman candidate for POTUS…the most qualified candidate (regardless of gender) comes along….so many women are supporting the sweet talker instead of the woman? I don’t understand it.
These little boys and girls who are so gaga over snObam — if they get their demands and snObam gets the keys to the white house — when THEY are near retirement — I’ll bet snObam sold Social Security to the highest bidder. And they won’t have health care — and THEY will be living in some sort of authoritarian HELL.
Those of us lucky enough will have fled elsewhere.
However — NEVER COUNT CLINTON OUT!
MADAM PRESIDENT & CiC
Mr Music …..
That was Bush, not the Republicans.
Also, you have NO IDEA of what Obama will and will not do. We have no idea of who owns him…..someone does… probably more than one. His policies are copy and paste. Even his advisors on more than one occasion has said that what he is saying on the trail is not really what he believes, NAFATA….time table for the Iraq war.
look at his choice of friends…associates…and judgment….you want him appointing justices?
His relationship with Auchi… doesn’t concern you?
When has his rhetoric matched his actions?
What is one real accomplishment?
He can’t stand up under the pressure of campaigning and questioning, how can this child be President.
McCain is not Bush … his votes for justices have been fairly liberal.
Oh by the way… the tuff votes on abortion is when Obama voted present … so what does he really believe?
This race if between Obama and McCain… is NOT a Democrat versus Republican…. it is Obama versus Republicans …. cos Obama certainly doesn’t represent the Democratic Values.
The last time I checked…..it was an American and Democratic value to let people vote…have their votes be counted and not use aggressive behavior…..three strikes against Obama.
We are much safer (and it isn’t actually comforting) with McCain than with Obama.
At least with McCain, we know we have someone who values this country. Obama and his wife… ummmmm….who knows.
Oh believe me we don’t think it’s a game either. We are dead serious. And if you are here to influence any one of us you are doing a piss poor job of it. But that’s expected given the arrogance and insults we are now impervious to.
You need us and you can’t have us. Can you guess why?
Uppity you surely speak for me as well! Thanks!
You are right THIS IS NOT A GAME - WAKE THE F#$% UP Yourself! Get off whatever you are smoking, open your eyes and look at Obama and company.
We are as serious as cancer! The man is an unknown with extremely questionable associates and We. ARE. NOT. voting for him, EVER!
We love this country and have no wish to see her self destruct by voting for a candidate who spent 20 years listening to Wright’s black liberation garbage. A candidate who worked for a terrorist for 8 years, who aided and abetted Rezko in his slumlord rat infested buildings.
Oh and thanks anyway, I don’t want to pay his Global tax. Why aid and abet foreign people who teach their children to hate America- we have that right here in America, in Obama’s church.
Oh Boy am I going to love what the Republicans do to Precious.
Let the games begin!!!!!!
Wow.. me too.. I was first shocked and excited by Fox News …. and now the Republicans!
Is that ad running somewhere?
Hillary or McCain will be the next President.
The Democratic SuperDelegates have no clue (obviously) that they are actually choosing the next President at the Convention.
They have no idea what is in store… and they should!
on to 2012.
Donna Brazile is a hypocrite…as she is being interviewed on CNN this is “Our” Democratic Party. Howard Dean and her along with the rest of the DNC Members have single handily destroyed “Our” Democratic party, they refuse to count the FL & MI votes there were 1.749 million people who voted. She has some nerve saying to Lanny Davis you used the word “My” Democratic Party she said it is “Our” and went on to postulate herself as holier than thou. I am sure Mr. Davis thinks of the Democratic Party as his that is why he is so passionate in explaining how and why he supports Hillary Clinton and why he believes she is the only of the three candidates capable of setting this Great Country back on the path to the straight and narrow. If they did count FL & MI votes Hillary Clinton would be ahead. There is a news media clip somewhere of Al Sharpton during the vote in FL stating that the DNC should possibly reconsider rescinding their decision not to count FL delegates (this was at a point during the election when it looked like Obama was ahead in FL)
Texas Caucus Fraud http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27601
When and where has a majority of a country’s people become prisoners of a minuscule ethnic minority, to simply satisfy the RACIST desires of this minority to have one of them in control? When does one racist action justify another one in response (theoretically)? How can the Black American community honestly believe by supporting ANY Black candidate (chosen by the White political establishment) in such a wide margin will not create a highly negative racial backlash? Should the rest of the Americans, who basically reside within the Republican Party and the Independent block, respond with their own brand of ‘reverse racial voting’ by mobilizing against Obama, or simply close their eyes to what is happening in our own backyard? This is all going on with the complete approval of Senior Democrats who are out of touch with the will of America’s people.
https://www.lobbydelegates.com/Default.aspx
Go to this website and send email to all the delegates in your state in support of Hillary Clinton. Vote, support and donate to hillaryclinton dot com
You should do more research on Bill amd Hillary Clinton they are both seasoned politicians. She was present at the hearings for impeachment of Richard Nixon. Knowing that I do not believe she would intentionally be dishonest with the American people; too bad you cannot say the same for the other candidates.
Super Delegates, you are all aware Hillary is the best “person” for PRESIDENT. Obama, we have not heard anything new from him since he started this campaign. Change, Change, and more of the same. Obama cannot elaborate on one single plan he has for the USA. However he does have all sorts of plans for assisting other countries with your voter’s tax monies! If Hillary Clinton loses this nomination because of the unprofessional handling of the Votes in FL & MI. (which will ultimately cause her the nomination); you will see the republican party, take over the majority in the Senate and all other political offices. Our poor, our children, our disabled, all our people need help, charity starts at home!!!!
Hillary can stand up to the best of them. She has the poise, grace and power that our country needs. Nominate Hillary Clinton for our next President of the USA!!
I’ll make the fudge — someone make the popcorn — and we’ll roast hotdogs over the fire!
OK let the games begin — Obama has declared himself the “winner”. One of the polling firms has declared Obama the winner and will no long do Democratic Polling. (Rasmussen)
However — THE FAT LADY HASN’T DONE HER BIT — so let Obama make a bigger fool of himself.
He asked for it by letting his plans for May 20th be known.
Makes you wonder if he is ready for this to end and let Hillary take over, huh?
His next book is going to be The Audacity of Arrogance.
I like the title, The Audacity of Bamboozling Bullshit.
Have I wandered over to Red State by accident? Are all of you Clinton supporters actually part of Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos or something? Why else would all of you be so gleeful about the idea of McInsane winning in November?
if you’ve been looking at red state they seem rather “chuffed” to be running against Obama.
Get over yourself, Sweets. Why don’t you do a little reading while you’re here. This is one of the last bastions of “reality based” commentary on the net. Go do some concern trolling somewhere where else. M’K? Bye now.
“Reality-based” meaning Hillary is still going to win the nomination? “Reality-based’ like “Obama is OMG SO going to jail for voter fraud!!1!!” You mean THAT kind of reality based?
And what’s with all the “sweets” and “darlin’s” and “twinkletoes” stuff?
Grow up everyone. We got an election to win in November. McCain will destroy this country.
You should have though about that before you decided to come over here and call us insane, childish, bitter. Etc. You said we weren’t needed or wanted, now that you see what you’re up against, you try and make us feel guilty and cry “party unity”. You have a lot of nerve.
Take a step back and re-read your comments.
And yes, I do think party unity is important. Don’t you?
Unfortunately, Obama and the DNC have destroyed any party unity that could have existed. Wait until you see the Independent registrations soar amond those of us who have been called the “Uncreative” class and, the latest courtesy of Donna Brazile: “repugnant and vile.”
I think the correct characterization is: The chickens are coming home to roost.
I thought “party unity” was important until I saw the Obama people STEAL my precinct caucus (yes, I filed my complaint with both the State Party and the Hillary campaign).
The very basis of the Obama campaign has ALWAYS been to accuse the other side of what it’s doing: “anything to win”, “race baiting”, “voter intimidation”, “lobbyist funding”, “Oil company funding”, “bogus ballots”… all from Camp Obama.
Not a dime, and not a drop of sweat, for his campaign, or for any local pol who endorsed him.
Good for you. I’m glad you filed a complaint. I hope everyone who witnessed illegalities in caucuses/elections will file a complaint.
Ask Donna Brazille
Not when it perpertrates a fraud.
Oh, nice try but we the bubbas, the racists, uneducated, not noble (from Kennedy today) Hillary supporters got the disunity memo already. Plus, what do you care, party unity to you means the New Democratic Party. We had the neo-cons (that was great for the country) and now we have the neo-libs, neo-dems, or whatever you’re calling yourselves these days.
Very creative, btw.
Shut up — go away “Gypsy”.
You made you bed — now go bite your pillow.
Oh horseshit. You think we’ve been in a vacuum for the past six months? Party unity doesn’t mean SHIT to you. The only thing that matters to you is Barack Obama gives you a buzz. You are only here because you NEED party unity for HIM. You need us. You can’t have us. What part of that don’t you get? Now run along over to mybarackobama and pull up that page that appeared last week where they were going to slit Hillary’s throat and toss her in a river. Then count how many times they use the word c*nt. After you are dont reading, shove the whole website up your ass.
NO I don’t think your unity concept is important any longer. Your party is misogynistic and hates older people, thereby making you ageists also! The faster your party falls apart, the better. Did you see how your party stood up to George W. Bush all these years? Has Pelosi done one fucking thing to stop the War in Iraq? HUH? What about yoru Harry Reid? What has he ever done to make the Democratic Party look like a party of strength? HUH? NOTHING! The entire DP is a silly, out-dated grotesquely shaped anachronism at this point. It has been co-opted by a bunch of GANGSTAS as you people call it. You think you are all so cool, so intelligent, so hip!
Yeah! Right! Wait until it is time for you babies to collect social security! You’ll be eating out of garbage cans! Couldn’t happen to a nicer generation either.
If my parents’ generation was called the Greatest Generation, yours could be called the LEAST Generation.
Pathetic bunch of groupies! With an American Idol for president no less. Paper people.
Gypsy, darlin, Barak Obama doesn’t have 2025 delegates.
Ergo, he hasn’t won.
Join reality, ok?
They thought ‘Party Unity’ was the rat’s ass in the Soviet union. Nope, that way lies perdition.
America FIRST- party unity BE DAMNED!
“McCain will destroy this country.”
Uh, perhaps you should have thought about that before you supported someone like Mr. Hopey/Changey? Personally, I can’t wait to see Mr. Hopey/Changey and his not-so-charming wife, go down in flames. I can’t wait.
Enjoy President McCain! You asked for him, so that’s who you’re going to get because the repubs are going to DESTROY your little hopey/changey corrupt candidate.
Gypsy …
I am a lifelong Democrat and I do not trust, respect of like Obama for a variety of reasons of which I am sick and tired of talking about.
There is no way I would ever support that man for President or even VP!!!!
I am ashamed of the Democratic party and how they handled this primary. For the first time I see what elitists really are……
Let them have a new Democratic Party…. per Donna Brazille …. the neutral leader of the DNC …. she told us all to “stay home” if we didn’t like the new party…. I won’t be staying home. I will be supporting McCain!
Sadly, I feel much safer int he hands of Republicans (McCain) than I ever would with Obama. I don’t trust him enough to order me a meal…nor would I want to share a table with him eating it.
At least with McCain, we know we have someone who loves our country….can’t say that about Obama.
Maybe they wanna see what republicn troll boy was going to do, and apparently, not much.
remember it’s about national security, too.
YA gonna throw another kook like Cheney, well, you know, best to see what’s shakin.
Your system, don’t blame me you’re not smart enough to figure it out, why you just can’ t seem to accomplish anything, despite stealing the presidency..
LOL…
Change your name to requiemforObamaCandidacy.
Good one. :-J
…and you ain’t going to win it with Obama.
Good God people, you want the Dems to run a guy who spent 20 years (and $50K in the last 2 years) in and on a church that the Repubs will EASILY characterize as a Black Nationalist church. A guy with ties to unrepentent terrorists (the only dif between Ayres and McVeigh is that McVeigh wasn’t inept). A guy who oozes elitism and who’s petulance can only be matched by Dubya himself. A guy who’s too frightened to debate. You want to run this guy against the ‘maverick’ McCain who spent 5 years in a POW camp?
Sure the economy’s going down a hole, but does BO know any more about fixing it than McCain? No - neither of them has a clue.
Iraq? In ‘04 BO said his position wasn’t much different than Dumbya’s and he’s voted to fund it EVERY time. So I’m still looking for the anti-war candidate.
After all this time I STILL don’t know what Obama stands for other than ‘hope’, ‘change’ and ‘unite’. I’ve had 8 years of the ‘uniter’ so I’m not buying that.
I’ll never vote for McCain, but the chances of me voting for BO in November are pretty, damn slim — and I’M A DIED IN THE WOOL LIBERAL!!
gypsy howell, you and your candidate have an election to lose in November. We don’t want any part of your pastor disaster.
YOU have an election to win in the fall. I have to pick a candidate to whom to give my vote.
That’s going to be a lot of work. Shouldn’t you get on with that?
If you’re afraid of a McCain presidency, then help Clinton win the nom. Cause Obama cannot win against him in the fall.
gypsy howell,your unwanted presence here is a reminder of HOW RUDE & EGOISTICS OBAMAMANIACS ARE!!!
I rather have a PATRIOTIC, REAL AMERICAN HERO in the White House, than the unqualified Obama!
President and Commander-in-chief Hillary Rodham Clinton is the most qualified leader!
Why don’t you be a true American & support the most qualified presidential candidate, Senator Hillary? It is not too late. You will do a great service to your country, if you wake-up to the truth, that Barack Obama is a puppet of advisers with hidden agenda.You are intellectual,use it wisely & be smart!
GOD SAVE AMERICA. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
Win the election without me. I will not hold my nose one more time for the pleasure of voting Democratic. The day Obama becomes the day I go looking for a voter registration card to change to independent.
You Obamabots are despicable. Go over to your own sites like Obamington Post. Why are you wasting your valuable time with us old,uneducated typical white persons?
Because, twinkletoes, we tried to warn you about this and YOU called us racist, bitter, and guys like Jeffy and Donna Brazille told us to get the hell out of the party. So we are. Now we are folks without a party, get it? IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT!!!!!!!!!
BS. You are insane. If you supported Clinton because of the issues then you would support the Dem. nominee. Otherwise you are in this as some sort of pop idol game. You are in it for the personality. This is not a game. Who the next President of the US is will have a great effect on all of us and all of our children. You are either part of the solution or you are part of the problem (a 3rd term for George W. Bush.)
We won’t stay where we’re not wanted.
What, are you in 8th grade or something? That sounds like something my daughter would have said when she was going through her snotty-13-year-old phase.
Next you’ll be telling me “you didn’t ask to be born.”
Haven’t you ever gone through an primary where your guy or gal didn’t win? I was a Dean supporter in 2004, but sucked it up bigtime and campaigned my heart out for Kerry. I was an Edwards supporter earlier this year, and sucked it up when he didn’t even make it as far as my state’s primary. I didn’t vote for Hillary in the primary, but I would definitely campaign for her if she had won the nomination. You know why? Because there are some things more important than our own little fanboi and fangrrrl desires. The future of this country is at stake, and you’re all whining like a bunch of spoiled teenagers.
Stop acting like a bunch of fucking babies.
We have work to do, if we want to try to leave this world in even marginally better shape than it’s in right now.
Too late. Obama is a terrible candidate. I won’t be party to getting him elected. If he isn’t strong enough to handle such simple questions like the ones in the ad, than he has no business in the Oval Office.
Sooooooo… you’d rather have McCain for 4 years? And that will be good… how, again?
It’s called midterm elections.
Right now, yes I would. A Moderate Repub over a “Who Knows What?” candidate.
No “God-damn America” for me.
No “US of KKK A” for me.
No “cling to guns and religion” for me.
No “I wish we’d blown up more” for me.
No “no regrets for what we did” for me.
No “voted present” for me.
No “faked anti-war speeches” for me.
No “taking money from Rezko” for me.
No “Dean, Michelle, Donna, Olberman, Rhodes” for me.
Obama’s kind of Democrat is not a Democrat in the New Deal Coalition Democrat that I’ve worked for my entire adult life. And nor are you.
I think you better take a closer look at McCain’s voting record before you call him a Moderate Republican. That, he’s not.
That’s the difference between McCain and Obama. McCain has a voting record. Obama’s voting record = “present”.
At least McCain has a record.
What does Obama have?
He is a conman and a fraud.
No Gypsy I don’t think Democratic Party unity is important. In fact, I hope the Democratic Party goes to the lower circle of Dante’s Hell, never to be heard from again. You bunch of losers! YOu can’t even see when someone truly powerful has come into your midst and showed you what a truely brilliant person is really all about.
I don’t give a damn about you and your Democratic Party. This is one lifelong Demo who is quitting it for good! Go shove off and take your pie-eyed pussycats with you. Fuck off.
You need to take a closer look at McCain and you will see how attractive of a Presidential potential he is, of course Hillary is MUCH MORE, but I want the best for my country not some sleaze, we have had that for 8 years.
Yes gypsy McCain is much better than obama, why are you here? are you trying to play a guilt trip? ROFLMAO I don’t feel guilty for beding absolutely disgusted with obama the fraud and his pathetic excuses of supporters who took a woman who has devoted her entire life to this country and you all treated her and us like pieces of shit. you can kiss my ass, why don’t you try and put as much energy in trying to have the 2.5 million Dems that voted count in this primary. The rules and bylaws rigged it against them and pulled the nuclear option on them and you advocate it, simpey pathetic.
Spin it baby, so glad you understand what I said about proving a negative and the decline of your organization.
republicans steal presidencies, and can’t win wars.
See a problem?
Obama steals caucuses! Is this supposed to be better?
Requiemforadancer.
Are you calling Obama a Republican? He is certainly trying to steal the nomination! He is going to fall flat on his face in the GE….
GO REPUBLICANS!!!!
Hillary or McCain for President.
LOL.. the DNC thinks the lunch bucket typical white voters are going to fall in line….
Many of us will… right behind McCain.
DEMS.. don’t fall for Donna Brazille… STAY HOME…. they want us to because Obama would have a chance to win.
TO keep him out… vote for McCain!
Protect what is left of our country
VOTE FOR HILLARY
VOTE FOR MCCAIN as the alternate.
That’s a catchy campaign slogan. When will the bumperstickers be out?
I’ll take two.
They get just so darned frustrated that we won’t bow before their Messiah. It’s pretty comical, actually.
Ohio, that slogan is gypsy’s version of Obambi’s UNITY schtick.
If you don’t “unify” with THE ONE, they call you a fucking baby.
Feel inspired?
I tell ya what, if gypsy’s on the Obama recruiting team, Obama’s screwed.
Why should anyone vote for Obama when he has no legislative track record worth speaking of,no record of bi-partisanship in the senate, no record of standing up for the working class, is against limits on H1-B and L-1 visa workers, who wants open borders and thinks his 4 years in Indonesia as a schoolchild makes him a foreign policy genius.
Who has nothing but a bunch of conservative hacks as economic advisers. Not one populist or pro-working class adviser in the lot.
Then there is the character issue, why should I vote for a man who spent 20 years in black nationalist church that preaches separation of the races and condemns whites as born racists. Why should I vote for a man who could not find one good thing to say about the United States in the two books he wrote or his grandparents who raised him. Why should I vote for a man who keeps unrepentant ex-terrorist as friends, who spent his post-college years working for a slum lord.
Why should working class whites vote for him when his minions routinely vilify them as racists and worse for not voting for the messiah?
Gypsy Howell,
So you will support and work for Hillary when she becomes the nominee?
Thank you
gypsy, you fail to understand that Obama cannot win — it is an utter fantasy to believe that a candidate with his baggage can go up against the Republican attack machine and come out of it with the Presidency. ANY candidate who can be portrayed as unpatriotic and anti-American as easily as Obama has NO chance.
You simply CANNOT be seen as this far out of the mainstream and win the general election. It doesn’t matter ‘what Obama really meant’, or why he went to that church, or took money from the slumlord, or ran a foundation for an unrepentant terrorist. You CANNOT have this as your background (and I mean recent background — not some back in my youth kind of thing) and win the votes of middle America. Not.Going.To.Happen.
So if the Dems are determined to commit electoral suicide — we need to work hard for the down ticket Dems so that we can maintain control of the Senate and the House. That is the best we can hope for.
Mr. Music , and there you go already attacking the person that disagreed with you by name calling. That is just an example of the hate and blind-idolatry we have had to take from your ilk.
I vote for the person that is good for the country, that’s why Hillary.
Guess what - You don’t get Hillary? You don’t get our vote -.
Enjoy your partying now, it won’t last.
You’ll get mcCain because of your massive hate for Hillary, proud of yourself, beat Hillary at all costs - your even worse than the repugs.
You get what you deserve. heh heh
Well, remember, YOU”LL get McCain too. Ponder that for a bit.
No, due to your brilliant methods of troll, we get dumb, or dumber, pretty much what we have now, and the crew too stupid to get it, gaming themselves to destruction.
It will be another 4 years of diaper changing, period.
The plus side, is your organization will be further destroyed, as will your republican counterparts.
I think you’re a republican troll, btw, but you know at this point democrats like Dean, and the republicans are both such morons, it doesn’t matter…
A man here, about three months ago, mentioned the destruction of the American empire, and the birth of the American republic.
You’re on the wrong side, as is that moron tool Obama.
Look at the big picture, tool, and remember you’re trying to prove a negative, and every time you do, you hasten your destruction.
Here, Mr. Music, for your glass house.
exactly, musicman.Senator Hillary, the next USA President, is entirely different from your idol Obama! She is a FIGHTER & does not run away,unlike you man, he is so SCARED TO DEBATE & ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE of Senator Hillary Clinton, a dignified lady! Gosh, a guy running away from a lady? COWARD!! He is scared ‘coz he had a humiliating lost in their last debate, then he turned “gangsta” invoking Jay-Z lyric,
“Stab the Ladies..Middle Finga to the Law..”
He is the PROBLEM!!!
You are WANTED by this great country! Join to PROTECT America & vote/support Hillary!!I love my country, that’s why I will NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!!!
The high priests and priestesses of the Obama cult - and we know who they are - should be commended for excluding HRC in Team McGovern Redux. We don’t want her tarred. Besides, The One is bound to realize he has clay feet when he concedes defeat to a geriatric senator whom he had dismissed as someone who had lost his bearings. After all, it is entirely illogical for an Obaman to suddenly accept HRC as a president-in-waiting (like all Vice-Presidents are) after vilifying her repeatedly as humanity’s greatest enemy since the bird flu virus. Better the devil you know. Vote McCain if Obama is the Democrat nominee!
Bite me, Mr. Music.
I agree with Al Franken “Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot.” There, I doubt any ditto-head could make themselves write that.
As for why I am leaning towards McCain if Obama is nominated is that it would would be better for both parties and (long term) for the country. An Obama presidency would likely be a disaster that would cost us the house and senate for years (or decades). It would push the party too far left to win elections.
A McCain presidency would likely turn the Reps a bit more Green and empower their moderates.
Also I am offended by his former close connection with Wright and semi-close relationship with Ayers.
I understand your loyalty to the party, but I think you are wrong in you choice (This time!)
dearie, you are boring! yawn, husle that bussle over to we love obama. you’ll fit in there. you can help brazile lead cheers.
Are you truly unable to comprehend what is going on? We do not like McCain. We are going to vote for him if our only other choice is Obama because McCain will be a better President. Obama is nothing more than another George W. Bush. He is unqualified, does not really have any strongly held beliefs on any issue other than his own wonderfulness, and will wilt under the pressure of being President. He is almost fifty years old and has no accomplishments of note that would qualify him for even being Chairman of a County Committee, much less the highest office in the land. The problems facing this country would only grow worse while he took a lot of naps and vacations.
Obama has more elected legislative experience than Hillary. No accomplishments? Was Hillary ever the president of Harvard Law? I thought not. Obama = Bush? Now you’ve made me chuckle,..thanks!
“Was Hillary ever the president of Harvard Law?”
Wow. This is what you come back with for the lack of experience argument? Did you know that Obama lived overseas as a child for a few years and that alone makes him more qualified in foreign policy than McCain and Hillary put together?
Oh, wait….that’s right you actually believe this crap.
Now that’s funny.
More elected legislative…this sounds like that email talking point that was debunked by factcheck.org. See http://www.newsweek.com/id/129976.
“More elected legislative experience than Hillary”?
That’s just a flat out lie. No amount of spin could ever make that true.
What happened to the “experience doesn’t matter cause it’s ‘old politics’” talking point? So now that you have a (limp) new response that you think qualifies as experience, now experience matters again?
Good lord, these people…
Hillary has been in the Senate since 2001. Obama has been a senator since 1996. . . that means he has ‘more elected legislative experience’, doesn’t it??!?!?
If you call screwing over your low income black and hispanic constituents in order to continue to enrich your Chicago mob friends than certainly he has a lot more of that kind of experience than Hillary who’s continually ranked as one of the 6 hardest working Senators since she took office. Hillary actually works for her constituents.
nedbulous,I thought the Obamamaniacs are college intellectuals.I guess u r “unclassified” ‘coz u r so ill-informed about ur idol, Barack Obama! You did not even dare to check what you proudly brag here in this thruthful territory of once proud Democrats,till ur man came to picture.FOR UR INFO: THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN U.S.SENATOR TO A STATE SENATOR,OBAMANITE!
Hillary is a respected,distinguished,
U.S.SENATOR while ur man was just a STATE SENATOR.Then he decided to become a U. S. Senator, & cohoot with shady Chicago charaters,that’s where the “hocus-focus began.Savvy? N u want him to protect us?
Furthermore, Senator Clinton is the first former First Lady to become a beloved, hard working U.S. Senator. Can Obama beat that???(of course not!silly you!)
From your “liberal” use of grammar here, I’m guessing you’re one of those “uneducated blue collar whites” that Hillary mentioned the other day?
Dave, it is what u call “texting”, the latest in the tech. It is very convenient & fast. Try it, Dave, you’ll like it
Ask ur kid to show you.LOL
President & Commander-in-chief Hillary Clinton is a FIGHTER!!!
Dave, dear, every single one of those “uneducated white people” that you and Obama think are beneath you, gets EXACTLY the same amount of votes you do.
I suggest you practice your hero’s UNITY thing instead of his ARROGANCE thing.
That post was meant for Ned.
Sorry, Dave.
He was in the Illinois Senate where he voted how may 180? times ‘oresent’ the illinois Senate meets what 55 days a year? give me a break! When he was given a chance in the U.S. Senate, he never hel ONE committee meeting.
Nope, no substantive legisltaive experience.
Harvard law Review- did he actually write any articles????
Hillary- Children’s Defense Fund- actually got something accomplished.
Considering he was the only one as President of the Law Review, to not publish any papers. Now doesn’t that sound about right for Mr. Present Hopey-Change.
He doesn’t have any papers from Harvard.
And he doesn’t have any papers from his YEARS in the Illinois Senate.
I think his mob friends taught him well, eh?
No thank you, hopey-changey. You’re not qualified.
What comes around goes around and it is time obama, camp, and his supporters get what they deserve.
You people just can’t stop being arrogant assholes even when you need us, can you?
You’ve been posting to this blog for quite a bit now…are all you Obama supporters this dense not to realize you are looking and reading (I hope) posts from Democrats, left with no other choice than to vote for McCain (be respectful not that you all know much about this either) or write in Hillary R. Clinton on the ballot.
But all he has to do is whine, throw himself on the ground and scream “You guys are being mean, mean and racist, mean, racist and bitter! Waaaaaah.” And of course the GOP will say “Oh gosh, Mr. Obama, you’re absolutely right, we were mean and bitter and racist and we’ll stop now. So sorry.” Christ. GOPers live to eat peoples’ souls. They relish other peoples’ pain. Might makes right and they’ve been at it MUCH longer than Barky. But hey fine, Obama doesn’t need our help. He’ll be just fine come November without us. Right Jeffy?
I find this characterization of Obama ridiculous. He’s never used any language like that. Perhaps some of his supporters have, but it’s as unfair to judge Obama by his supporters as it would be to judge Clinton by hers.
Brazille asked us to leave. We’re leaving.
How naive are you???? You don’t know what he says in private or how he talks; we kind of know what he smokes though in backseats don’t we? Heh heh - more on that later
NICE!
Well, then you KNOW how much ‘CARPET’ Hillary eats, as well! Although her Muslim lesbian lover is HOT!
Heh heh, indeed!
When Obama denounces his supporters who use the language and references you refer to, then try that defense again. His supporters are his public face unless and until he denounces them.
We do in fact judge Obama by his associations: Rezko, Avers, Wright, Dorhm, Farrakhan, Black Panther Party, Nation of Islam, Hamas, to name a few. You threw us under the bus, crowned Obama your king and there is no way we will support him EVER. Independent here I come. Love the new ad but I can think of a lot more questions I would like answered:) Some on the people above for starters.
and his Republican Youth. Don’t forget them.
Oh i forgot…you do call people racists…sorry, he never say anything, did you notice that…only his supporters go around calling people racists
oh dear me whine time is here again. i am putting my fingers on the side with the same sign for you that obama says he didn’t use for hillary.
Mr.Music you can’t be serious, leadership begins from the top and everytime obama personally attacked Hillary beginning last year, so did his supporters against her and us, when obama played the rap song at a rally in SC “i got 99 problems but a bitch ain’t one them” obamabots were all over the place calling Hillary a bitch and her supporters, when obama played the race card Hillary, Bill, and supporters became racists, when obama said his supporters would never support Hillary all you little punks said you would vote McCain, and of course michelle would have to think long and hard. I could go on however it would take all day. Your here trying to make amends? RFLMAO maybe you all should have thought about that before your candidate ran the most divisive and destructive campaign I have ever witnessed and then tried to blame Hillary, of course the media helped that happen but that is beside the point. McCain is SOOO much better than obama. Oh, why don’t you tell obama, the DNC, and the rest of his supporters to stop trying to disenfranchise the voters of MI & FL and another obama hasn’t won the nomination so tell him to stop being such an arrogant SOB and ignoring WV and KT as they don’t matter, he won’t have the popular vote when this is over, so he may not have the nominee.
How easily some forget.
He did use the exact word, “bitter.”
And you’ll find this whole thread and most of the others have plenty of Obama supporters passing judgment passed on Hillary’s supporters.
The highroad was forfeit a long time ago. Coming here to scold us now is condescending and arrogant, much like I found Obama to be himself. His supporters should go promote their candidate somewhere, don’t come here to tear us down for supporting ours.
Oh really?
It’s over. The die is cast. Win without us.
Hey Mr. Music……did you hear about Obama’s foreign policy advisor who was meeting secretly with Hamas in Gaza……you know, the same Hamas our government calls TERRORISTS?
The international press is all over it tonight…..and Obama was forced to fire this advisor for meeting with terrorists.
The Repubs will have a FIELD DAY with that one, hot shot.
I guess when your party pushes for a candidate like Barack Obama then you pretty much get what you deserve. The thing is they don’t even have to lie or misrepresent the guy. This one time where the plain old simple truth is enough. What we need to do is get Hillary on to the Green party ballot. We could build that party up while the democratic party brand completely implodes into irrelevance and extinction.
Have I wandered over to Red State by accident? Are all of you Clinton supporters actually part of Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos or something? Why else would all of you be so gleeful about the idea of McInsane winning in November?
You are so narrow minded. This is what the Clinton camp has been saying all along and this is just the beginning. The supporters of Sen Obama have been burying their heads in the sand for so long already. Wake up already.
So you’ll work to help McInsane win in November?
people vote from their gut feelings on all the issues and questions needed to be answered. you latte Obamabots can’t fathom the idea that hard-working middle class people know what are right for them. If they feel that Obama doesn’t represent them, they will not vote for him. Being an American is first and foremost and you enjoy terrorizing America by clinging to Obama and his terrorist friends, ignoring the fact that Obama will do anything to get more power even without doing or saying anything, disenfranchising votes and using race to win the sympathy of the people.
Read this important info on your faux messiah on comment #4 -
http://www.stop-obama.org/?p=355#comments
then, tell me, does this guy truly represent the party of FDR??????
First of all, you don’t know anything about me, so it’s stupid to throw around assumptions about who I am and who I’m not.
Secondly:
Ask yourself who’s closer to the ideals of FDR. I don’t think it’s the guy who’s committed to 4 more years of Bush policies.
it is definitely NOT Obama!
Hillary is!
Oh, and none more thing. There are a LOT of us latte drinkers in the country. Just ask Starbucks.
lady, i am a latte drinker. i am well educated. i own my own company. i am a registered independent. also i love my country enough that i will do everything i can to see he doesn’t take himself and that sorry excuse he calls his wife to my wh.
You sure do make a lot of assumptions about Clinton supporters. Quite frankly, I have a university degree with a double major, have an excellent job, am in a high income bracket, and own a home in an exclusive area in what is called the “Gold Coast” in Orange County, CA. And drink lattes to boot. Can you say that you have a comparable education and lifestyle? I somehow doubt it.
I think you’re not only a snob, but a fool. I have utter contempt for you and those like you.
Gypsy you said “none more thing”. By your own words - QUIET!! NONE MEANS NONE! SILENCIO!
Oh, and one more thing. There are a LOT of us latte drinkers in the country. Just ask Starbucks.
Good for Starbucks and small coffeehouse businesses. People need jobs. Caffeine is addictingly important so we can be assured to be awake and enjoy the tasteful and wonderful beverage influence from Italy.
BUT, there is a difference between Latte Obamabots and the “just enjoying the tasteful lattes” folks across this country. Have you tried Cafe Mocha? It is a wonderful combination of chocolate, coffee and milk flavor. You might want to enjoy the variety of colors and taste. Milk and coffee is a bit too 2-dimensional. Got my drift?
Ummm… no, actually I don’t get your drift. Can you be more explicit?
So are the republicans buying Clinton is out, too?
Is that smart, or are YOU being trolled?
And you see, so focused on this presidency, you can’t fight anything else.
Why would you vote for a man, as a republican, who can’t win wars, a party that can’t govern?
because you don’t understand that war?
Obama is a bigger idiot than Mccain, period, some agency will step in and control him, period, too stupid to be president he’ll be opsed into nothing, like his Arab counterparts.
but still, why aren’t you supporting the ONE candidate who can win the war, and that’s Clinton?
You don’t want to lose the wars, you dont want the country going the way of the middle east.
24/7.
Win without us.
dang, now that is sad. ya’ll are actually cribbing each others’ talking points. dear me, the stars are gone and the bench sitters were sent in.
Good luck with that garbage. All of the same stuff Clinton tried, it will not work. John McCain = George W. Bush. Enough said.
Clinton do shit to Obama. She should have asked him this stuff, but then you would have called her a racist…oh wait you did call her a racist and she didn’t ask any questions like those above. But good luck in November without us. Brazille and you guys asked us to leave, so we’re leaving.
Of course she did! The Clinton camp did a lot worse than anything in this video. Please. *yawn*
Prove it!
Bullshit. Bill and Hill did NOTHING to your freakin’ candidate. NOTHING. However, Mr. Hope did accuse THEM of being racists and they are 2 people who have spent a lifetime fighting for civil rights in this country! Take your racist candidate and LEAVE.
we know you aren’t very smart, so you aren’t in the creative “class”. you clearly don’t have much money either. so you must be an aa poster. good luck with that. the aa community is mostly blue collar workers, and haven’t you heard that after you give your vote away, you are no longer wanted
Please provide proof. *yawn*
It worked with Clinton supporters and it will McCain’s supporters. So what does that leave you with?
McCain will come back with being offered the VP slot with Kerry–hard to paint him as Bush III.
We are not republicans. We are long-time democrats who care about our country more than a party that has made it clear doesn’t give a damn about us. That ad is nothing but the truth. Shouldn’t Obama have to answer those questions. I believe the American people (no matter what party they belong to) deserve to know the answers to those questions. If Obama was forced to answer those types of questions like all the other candidates have had to, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Goodness gracious! Whew! They are going to fire that butt up!!! I’ll be honest, I can’t wait!!! The first debate, again if he really does grab this nomination–anything’s possible right?–should be especially YUM-eee! See how he hems and haws his way out of that. McCain is pretending that he’s going to play Mr. Nice Guy, but ask Mitt Romney if he’s just a sweet old guy. LMAO Obama doesn’t know what he’s got coming his way. Axeltard is no doubt trying to prep him, but he folded like a cheap fan against Hill! McCain won’t be so nice.
Who said there will be any debates, Sugar. He will run like a chicken like he has been to his waffle.
Well, those Republicans don’t take too kindly to that–Debate dodging–so, he’d better get his “game face” on now. LMAO
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McCain will chew him up and spit him out in a debate. Too bad he can’t run from the debates in the GE like he’s doing now. Hell, he can’t even handle HILLARY in a debate! He’s just so damn pathetic. I can’t wait to witness his demise and the republican will destroy him.
With all these baggages Obama has, shiiiitttt!!! the stoopid Brazille/Dean/Pelosi NEO-Dem party is ovahhhh.
I want my real DNC party back! I want people’s voting rights back! I want my USA back!
Please, Could someone post the text of the ad? Or a summary? I can’t watch YouTube here.
Thank you!
(Close-up photo of BO leaning on his hand, middle finger prominently forward.)
BO is running to be president, CIC. He speaks eloquently about change, and his vision. Wouldn’t it be fair to ask him a few questions?
Why did he vote present over 130 times avoiding decisions on abortion, crime, and guns?
How will he pay for over $660 billion in new spending?
(They keep showing the words “Can we ask?” before each question, and after each they’re playing a sound bite from the BO cultathons, with people shouting “Yes we can!”)
Will he raise taxes on families and small business?
Why he voted against funding for our troops?
Why he said the economy had driven voters to cling to guns and religion?
Can we ask ourselves if three years in the U. S. Senate is enough to prepare him for the presidency? (Video of BO saying, “YES WE CAN!”)
Barack Obama. Soaring rhetoric. Questions to answer.
I’m a lifelong Democrat like my parents before me. I do have a college degree. I’ve voted Dem in every election since I came of age in the late 70’s. I’m not easily fooled. If Obama is the Dem nominee, I will leave the party and become Independent. They don’t need me… they have a new coalition that doesn’t include lifelong democrats like me.I’m no Republican, never will be.
For those who think McCain will play Obama’s dirty games like Clinton had been forced to do:
February 6, 2006
The Honorable Barack Obama
United States Senate
SH-713
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Senator Obama:
I would like to apologize to you for assuming that your private assurances to me regarding your desire to cooperate in our efforts to negotiate bipartisan lobbying reform legislation were sincere. When you approached me and insisted that despite your leadership’s preference to use the issue to gain a political advantage in the 2006 elections, you were personally committed to achieving a result that would reflect credit on the entire Senate and offer the country a better example of political leadership, I concluded your professed concern for the institution and the public interest was genuine and admirable. Thank you for disabusing me of such notions with your letter to me dated February 2, 2006, which explained your decision to withdraw from our bipartisan discussions. I’m embarrassed to admit that after all these years in politics I failed to interpret your previous assurances as typical rhetorical gloss routinely used in politics to make self-interested partisan posturing appear more noble. Again, sorry for the confusion, but please be assured I won’t make the same mistake again.
As you know, the Majority Leader has asked Chairman Collins to hold hearings and mark up a bill for floor consideration in early March. I fully support such timely action and I am confident that, together with Senator Lieberman, the Committee on Governmental Affairs will report out a meaningful, bipartisan bill.
You commented in your letter about my “interest in creating a task force to further study” this issue, as if to suggest I support delaying the consideration of much-needed reforms rather than allowing the committees of jurisdiction to hold hearings on the matter. Nothing could be further from the truth. The timely findings of a bipartisan working group could be very helpful to the committee in formulating legislation that will be reported to the full Senate. Since you are new to the Senate, you may not be aware of the fact that I have always supported fully the regular committee and legislative process in the Senate, and routinely urge Committee Chairmen to hold hearings on important issues. In fact, I urged Senator Collins to schedule a hearing upon the Senate’s return in January.
Furthermore, I have consistently maintained that any lobbying reform proposal be bipartisan. The bill Senators Joe Lieberman and Bill Nelson and I have introduced is evidence of that commitment as is my insistence that members of both parties be included in meetings to develop the legislation that will ultimately be considered on the Senate floor. As I explained in a recent letter to Senator Reid, and have publicly said many times, the American people do not see this as just a Republican problem or just a Democratic problem. They see it as yet another run-of-the-mill Washington scandal, and they expect it will generate just another round of partisan gamesmanship and posturing. Senator Lieberman and I, and many other members of this body, hope to exceed the public’s low expectations. We view this as an opportunity to bring transparency and accountability to the Congress, and, most importantly, to show the public that both parties will work together to address our failings.
As I noted, I initially believed you shared that goal. But I understand how important the opportunity to lead your party’s effort to exploit this issue must seem to a freshman Senator, and I hold no hard feelings over your earlier disingenuousness. Again, I have been around long enough to appreciate that in politics the public interest isn’t always a priority for every one of us. Good luck to you, Senator.
Sincerely,
John McCain
United States Senate
http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressOffice.PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=a72aa248-ed25-4ec1-9c20-1386b3ee960c&Region_id=&Issue_id=
It was a joke how Obama tried to wezzle his way out of it, McCain couldn’t be bothered what Obama has to say, he pegged Obama weeks after Obama entered the Senate!
this is truly disturbing…McCain isn’t going to play nice with Obama. Just more confirmation of why everyone stifled this information about Obama…
well, he will get his dues big time, and what an embarassment for a candidate!
I hate to say it, but this is a very lethal ad. It tackles every single weakness of Senator Obama from experience to cultural values to his record in the senate (Illinois legislature).
I am a democrat, have been for more than half a century now, and i can tell you that that last bit on experience in the end of the ad is going to sway a lot of people away from Obama. Truth has to be said: we have never elected a president with 2 years in the senate and 2 years of experience on the national level without any executive or business or military experience to shore up his weak to C.V. We have never done that in these complicated times of the 20th century.
My question though, why couldn’t Hillary run an ad like that against him? Oh yes stupid me, they would have called it a racist ad.
That (racist) and she really did not want to do that hard an attck on another Democrat, despite all the talk from Obama’s supporters to the contrary. She was really very gentle on him and rarely took the gloves off. She is a true Democrat and a classy politician as well.
I could not have stated it better. She could have ripped his entrails out with her teeth, but she chose to bat him around with her claws pulled in.
We’re just mad as hell and we’re not going to take it anymore. Now does that tell you something about the people on this and other sites like Taylors and Larry’s. I like the new party idea . I’m writing in Hillary’s name in November anyway. Wouldn’t it be great if we started a write in movement that got her elected in November. wishful thinking but God wouldn’t that be the greatest screw on the Messiah and his deciples.
Yes, it would be fantastic. The party has gone out of its way this primary to disinfranchise a huge segment of the membership. Our vote is out voice.
A protest vote for McCain would get lost in the totals, but millions of write-in votes for Hillary would still keep Obama out of the Whitehouse and there would be no question what caused his loss.
Yes, it would be fantastic. The party has gone out of its way this primary to disinfranchise a huge segment of the membership. Our vote is our voice.
A protest vote for McCain would get lost in the totals, but millions of write-in votes for Hillary would still keep Obama out of the Whitehouse and there would be no question what caused his loss.
Why should I care what the Republicans do to Obama, when his supporters are having a great time calling for Hillary to get out, saying all sorts of things about her and Bill, I took it all in did not say a word.
Now you want Hillary supporters to be the cushion for the Obama slams from the Republicans, nope it does not work that way, if Hillary gets this nomination would you Obama gangs not want McCain to talk about every detail under the sun with the Clinton’s, of course you would.
Obama is not getting my support not after what the DNC has done, they were warned over and over, so let Dean sit back and take in the show, they should place a new ad everyday and let Obama get into his sissy fits and play the race card.
Did you guys not say he won well winners need to stand up and be ready for all challenges, so let the Republicans bring it on, pile it on thick and lets see what this great winner is made of.
That’s it? That’s all they got? The only issue that bothers me is the voting ‘present’ thing, which we’ve all known about for some time. The GOPers morph voting against war FUNDING into voting against the TROOPS. So you buy that? The tax jab is such an old ploy that it’s pretty much a joke. Experience? REALLY? By that measure then, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld should be your dream ticket. How’d their ‘experience’ work out for ya?
Now folks, consider ther issues that are important to you. Do you think that your reproductive rights, right to privacy, 4th amendment guarantees, rt to habeas corpus - just to mention a few - will be better protected by President McCain, or President Obama? Do you think that our standing in the world , and our now destroyed reputation as a good and peaceful, citizen of the family of nations will be better enhanced by President McCain, or by President Obama?
If your answer is McCain, then I suggest that either your crushed egos have gotten the better of your very obvious, self interest, or you just havent had the time to examine McCain’s statements ,and policy positions. Perhaps time will assuage the former, but only intellectual honesty can help you with the latter.
No this is the above the belt stuff. The real games are played out of sight. Where the hell were you in 2000? Don’t you remember what the did to McCain, one of their own? Or what they did to the female democratic Texas governer? This is the only the beginning.
You may as well get on up from around here because there won’t be many of us voting for this fraud. Certainly not enough to put his sorry sack in the White House. Count on that.
Jimbobuddy-
What about the voting rights of the people of MI and FL who are being disenfranchised by your candidate. There are a lot of people willing to pocket the expense of voting again. And why do you think Obama and his allegiance do not want a re-vote? Because they are scaredy shiiit. You talking about privacy and rights- here you are supporting the same person who is doing exactly the same as the neo-cons.
You want a movement? Then, Obama is definitely not your guy.
Florida and Michigan knowingly violated party rules by moving up the dates of their primaries. They did that to try to increase their power relative to the other states. The party stripped them of their delegates. Hillary signed a pledge supporting the DNC. Harold Ickes agreed asserting that states had to be prvented from ,”gaming the system.’ Terry McCulliff said, ” If I allow you to do that - Fla and Mi - the whole system collapses.” …and” the rules are the rules.”
There was no re-vote because the GOP controls the Fla legilature, and the Michigan Senate.
You are factually incorrect on all points. This is the weakest of all possible arguments by Clinton supporters. You’re better of with the electability thing
http://a9.g.akamai.net/7/9/8082/v001/democratic1.download.akamai.com/8082/pdfs/2008delegateselectionrules.pdf
Clearly you’ve never read the rules. The rules have rules for changing the rules to protect a Democratic bid for the White House. Denying voters a chance to be counted in a primary is a sure way to lose that state and it’s electoral college votes in the fall.
This is a selection not an election. The point is to win, not sit on your ass and not count the votes.
Sen. Clinton did not violate any rules regarding this issue or the Four-State Pledge. http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070831_Final_Pledge.pdf
Sen. Obama, however, did violate the Four-State Pledge by holding a press conference—defined as campaigning according to the DNC—in Florida before the primary. http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/sep/30/obama-vows-do-whats-right/?news-breaking
What is his punishment for violating the rules?
Oh you are not going to blackmail ME by waving MY bloody shirt that testifies for MY struggle and MY fighting to bring about Roe v. Wade and defend it all these years. 23 years of fighting and 23 years in the trenches fighting for women’s rights and then Obama’s slimy little pricks of supporters turn around and call me a racist. No, it does not work this way Jim.
No, no, no, not this time jimbobuddy. You said you don’t need women, that women are bitches, that women are whores, that women are shrill, that women are evil, that women are satanic, that women are liars, that women are untrustworthy, that women get only elected because we feel bad for them…you said all of that about Hillary. Didn’t you? Well, every word you said about that woman, you said it about me.
And i hope from the bottom of heart that McCain gets elected and he appoints hardcore right wingers to the court and they overturn Roe v. Wade for good so i can sit in my home and watch how this cry-baby generation will do it and fight for it again. You found everything ready for you and instead of saying thank you for your fight, you called us racists…well i resent that…i do…and i will never ever vote for your candidate. If he is defeat it, he is not my candidate. If he is elected, he is not my president.
Uh-Huh! TESTIFY GIRLFRIEND!!!!!!! What the Obama twats fail to realise is, we would not have abortion rights without women like you and Hillary!
Linda - you absolutely rock woman !!
Thank You…..
Sisterhood is POWERFUL!
When Obama and his bots attacked Hillary — they attacked me.
THIS is what you assholes do not get.
Thank you, Linda!
Thats incredibly immature.
The whole lot of you with your whining and crying because your candidate didn’t win so lets go home and hope the country goes to hell and vote for the guy whose policies are much worse.
Who is the cry-baby generation again? Go re-read your post. You sound like a 5 year old who didn’t get your way.
Grow up.
Jay, babe, an internecine act, why would anyone take the bait, stick out their tongue, and whine, like you?
Go work for cheney and/or Obama, they need tools, they can’t their car started either…
(Metaphor, before you whine, and I know, you don’t get it).
Here, let me strunk and white it for ya, too :
“get”
weak metaphor - Obama’s car is about to cross the finish line and get tuned up for the big race.
Do you want to see walking-talking immaturity? Well, go to the DK where Obama has become their new David Koresh.
Great Rant Linda!
Yes how will these little girls feel if R v W is overturned? They want us old women out of the party don’t they? They’ve called us horrible names, insulted us, called us OLD and has-beens. Called Hillary a bitch over and over and it HURTS! So we will exit your no good, bellyaching party and let you have your way. Don’t come running back here like the babies you actually are and ask us for our help when you can’t figure out how to turn the oven off after it burns your little chocolate soufflé. Okay! Don’t come and have the nerve to ask us for our guidance. The Obama assholes think they can call Hillary horrible names and insult her and of course, we the weak-kneed women will just forget all about it when it comes time to vote. NO WAY! They hurt Hillary they hurt ALL OF US! AND WE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE children! YOu will NOT be allowed to call your elders names!
You say it sister!!! We paid our dues, fought the fights so these young punks could have their rights.
You are SOOO right- They made their bed, let them lie down in it. AND if they get a little preggers, well, damn, they can just go fight their own battles- we fought for them and they don’t even have the decency to appreciate it.
Time for some tough love, I for one, will not be an enabler. Roe v Wade??? Should have thought of that months ago.
Don’t give me your moans and groans. These are the very same questions Hillary asked Obama to which he answered - attack, attack, attack; you’re attacking me. You and Bill are racist. Ask me about the issues.
These are some of the very questions ABC asked him in a debate…….and Obama ran away crying racism, politics of personal destruction, and gave Hillary the finger.
These are the very same issues and questions I raised on some pro-Obama sites and was called moron and racist, and worse.
This type of ad is exactly what some of us warned Obama, his campaign, and his supporters would be coming from the Republican attack machine.
And with every warning we gave we were met with jeers, vile name calling, and racial slurs, and we were assured that hope and the new politics of inclusion would triumph.
Well, good luck with that. You are on your own now. After four months of being called all sorts of vile names from the likes of you and other Obama supporters I have finally had it. After Obama wouldn’t do revotes for MI and FL; after his supporters repeatedly said they knew the rules, I watch as millions are disenfranchised. After 42 years as a Democrat I am washing my hands of the Democratic Party.
Obama’s campaign is nothing more than the audacity of arrogance. You reap what you sow. And I shall not shed one tear for you or what happens to Obama in November. And its only just begun.
You know the polls that how the the majority of the clinton voters say they won’t vote for Obama,about 10% less barack supporters sid they would not vote for Clinton. You know why, because they are not inspired like we are for Clinton. We KNOW what a deep down loser and a fraud he is, and he’s also self-destructive. Every hardship he has had to endeavor in this race was brought on by him and HIM ONLY. He picked Wright as his pastor and mentor, not Hillary, he picked Ayers to associate with, held a fund raiser at his house, not Hillary.
The amazing ignorance and blind hatred of barack supporters is unimaginable. And they expect our support after what how they have attacked and denigraded us??? That is laughable.
Poor baby sheep, they have not seen anything yet.
Excellent points!!! It was all brought on him by HIM!!!!
FYI: Comments sometimes disappear into the spam filter.
I’ve just realized that when I use the “BBCodeXtra” add on for Firefox to post a link, my comments got lost. So use the button above the comment box to post a link. Less irritation for you less aggravation for Susan.
This is not a negative ad. Have we become such wimps that we think that this ad is a negative one? Come one people
No, this ad asks and raises questions and everything in it is factual.
The negative stuff will come. This is just an appetizer in a 5 course meal.
You wanna know about the negative ads? Look for a 527 group out of Texas (i believe called coalition against drug users or something along those lines…a friend of mine told me about it yesterday and i have no proof of its existence)that is planning to run an ad about Obama drug use. They even have some of his friends on tap with whom he did cocaine confirming that. Of course, other groups are going to use all the crazy stuff of Rev. Wright (apparently there is a huge effort to find someone who can put Obama in Church during those sermons)and Michelle remarks about being proud for the first time and the “typical white person” remarks and so forth.
It looks like Obama is giving the finger in the first part of the video
Personally, I’m getting alot of axel grease dripping on me under the bus. Looks like they could clean the engine if we are going to have a long stay here.
Well considering that Obama supporters have said they don’t need the Hillary supporters votes, they have the AA vote and lots of other white voters to bring it home for Obama, and let see big mouth Donna told us to also leave and not waste her time, we have also heard Obama does not need FL and MI.
Considering all this why should Obama supporters now care if we take some joy in this new ad, you guys don’t need us remember, so let us all seek our personal satisfaction in what little we have now, and while you guys are trying to shield Obama from the Republican onslaught just remember we all told you so.
well, leave it to the Republicans. The editing of the audio track was horrible. Just sayin’ …
I was sent this video yesterday by an old Dem. friend, who said that this is the latest attack via the internet that is making the rounds. You may have all seen it—
http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036
I couldn’t help myself guys! Obama supporters will be talking just like this guy when the republicans get ahold of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvUNFmB7Jl8
I think the Obama stealth trolls are out here in full force. They just don’t get the depth of visceral repulsion to their toxic Messiah candidate and they think we’ll fall in line.
I myself have been on the fence till now about what to do with my vote should Obama be the Dem candidate.
I knew I couldn’t vote for him but now I can see that even the senile McCain would be better than this vile crook and I must do what I can to block his progress.
That means voting for McCain.
I also won’t vote for Hillary if she in any way ties herself to this little creep.
The media wants him. McCain won’t go negative. What are we to do ?
God help us all.
The MEDIA has been telling America to vote for Obama since he started running. The sexist media pig men’s club has been in full armor attacking and knocking down Senator Clinton over and over again.
And the older, white, middle class that support Hillary. AND THEY WAS US NOW??
I’m out, just going to set back and watch this fraud, and idiot self-destruct big time, while he’s crying all the while when it gets rough.
Buh bye
ATTENTION AMERICA!
Please read about the Michigan uncommitted vote scheme on Barack Obama’s website:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/derrickjackson/CCgd
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/derrickjackson/CCgd/com mentary
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/derrickjackson
Dec 15th, 2007 at 8:54 pm EST
So here we are in Michigan with Barack not on the ballot and we still believe that we can win. That’s what I call hope. Yes, I was down after seeing Barack withdraw his name from the Michigan ballot, but we still have a choice to make. By voting “Uncommitted” on the January 15th ballot we can send a powerful message and set Barack up for a victory.
Here’s how it works.
STEP 1: Make sure you are registered to vote by the December 17th deadline.
STEP 2: On January 15, 2008 go to your local voting location and proudly cast your vote for Senator Barack Obama by voting “UNCOMMITTED” on the ballot.
STEP 3: Remeber not to write-in Senator Obama. If you do the vote will not be counted. By Michigan election law, Barack would have until the 2nd Friday prior to election day to officially declare himself a valid write-in. If that does not happen then writing his name on the ballot will not count.
STEP 4: After we send a powerful message through our “UNCOMMITTED” campaign we will all need to be registered with the Michigan Democratic Party so that we will be able to vote in the District Conventions. If we have enough Uncommitted votes in the primary then District Conventions will be required in order to select which candidates recieve the delegates from Michigan. District Conventions will be held on March 29th and only MDP members can vote.
Bottom line is that Barack can still win Michigan even though he is not on the ballot.
and this…
PLEASE PASS THE WORD
There will be a conference call for all Obama supporters in Michigan on Tuesday, Jan. 8. Please check the michigandersforobama.com website tomorrow to get the time and call in number.
We will be discussing the Jan. 15 “Uncommitted” vote and how to turn those Jan. 15 “Uncommitted” votes into electing “Uncommitted delegate on March 29, 2008 to go to the Democratic National Presidential Convenvention in Denver, Colo where we then can declare as committed delegates for Sen. Obama.
This is unconscionable! Please help spread the word on the Obama campaign’s uncommitted vote scheme in Michigan.
Read this article to see Obam’s lies:
The Obama campaign had no problems when its supporters and allies in Michigan ran radio ads and other campaign activities urging people to vote for “Uncommitted” as a way to register their support for Senator Obama — and to give him a chance to compete for those delegates at the national convention… Now, with polls in recent days showing that effort and their candidate running far behind in both states, the Obama campaign has shifted tactics to say that those who cast a vote in either state don’t matter. We couldn’t disagree more.
Team Obama, meanwhile, says they weren’t campaigning or encouraging an Uncommitted vote: “The Obama Campaign is not participating in the Primary and has not instructed supporters in Michigan whether or how to vote,” said a statement from Obama spokesman Bill Burton. “The results of the (Michigan) primary have no bearing on the Democratic nomination contest.”
http://iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1834
The Obama campaign has now been caught i a BIG lie concerning Michigan! Proof of those lies are still on Obama’s website in the links mentioned above.
Obama voluntarily took his name off the ballot in Michigan to avoid losing to Hillary Clinton in Michigan between Iowa and New Hampshire. Then his he and his campaign did campaign in Michigan by pushing their supporters to vote uncommitted. Then when they lost in Michigan, they have done everything they can to block those delegates from being seated as voted.
Please help spread the word!
The Obama campaign campaigned in Michigan in violation of the no campaign pledge they signed. The proof of that is on Obama’s own website. Names of people, phone numbers, links to the flyers used. It is all there and the Obama camapign has yet to scrub it from their site. America deserves to know the truth about Obama’s uncommitted vote scheme in Michigan and his lies to try and cover up his tracks. It’s all on the Obama website! Obama voluntarily removed his name from the Michigan ballot and then in a calculated effort, worked to push his supporters to vote uncommitted. Obama lost Michigan. Hillary won Michigan! The votes in Michigan have been cast, counted, and certified. The delegates from Michigan MUST be allowed to count and be seated for Hillary Clinton at the Democratic NATIONAL Convention in Denver.
Check it out and spread the word!
PLEASE ACT NOW!!
THANK YOU!!
Actually, as a long-suffering Clinton supporter, I would like Obama to answer those Republican questions! He can’t dodge and weave much longer. The chickens are coming home to roost.
we (democrats) are so screwed come november.
unless. . .
After seeing Obama’s campaign, I now know why Republicans hate Democrats so much. Heck, after seeing this ad, it makes me want to be a Republican and I’m Canadian.
If the Republicans want Hillary voters, they should just go as nasty as possible. Hillary voters will love it. Finally, the Obama supporters will see what it was like for Hillary supporters to bear the brunt of unfair and brutal attacks by the Obama campaign, all the while wrongfully being accused of those very same tactics.
The sad part about this ad is that it’s an official ad from the RNC, and it’s not even harsh. Yet these are basic questions they will pummel him with in the general.
The 527s, of course, will not be so genteel.
That the DNC refuse to acknowledge this empty suit’s negatives would be laughable, if it weren’t so mind-blowingly sad. This is 2004 deja vue all over again.
Just words…Just Speeches…
Delicious - using his own words against him. And “empty rhetoric” just perfectly encapsulates his message.
Betcha the prominent middle finger in the first picture is no accident.
Delicious, Yes! These Obamabots crying foul will get a president they deserve, aka McCain for rejecting the more qualified and winnable candidate.
Whoa! And they’re just warming up!
I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night,
Alive as you or me,
Said I,”But Joe, you’re ten years dead.”
“I never died,” said he. “I never died.
Remember me, and don’t vote for Barak Obama.
Where working folks are cheering for Hillary,
That’s where you’ll find Joe Hill.”
What do you want to bet, BO never heard of Joe Hill?
Apparently, Springsteen didn’t either, given his support of BO, how sad, they’re so illiterate, and they don’t even know what that means.
I’m 58, a progressive, and have worked around politicians all my life, having had a career as a lawyer for the federal government. I am also sensitive to intelligence issues because of my family background. I have three daughters, and one of my main political goals is to ensure that they will be treated fairly in life. Consequently, the composition of the Supreme Court is very important to me. I have supported Ms. Clinton because I have grave security concerns about Mr. Obama. In short, I feel that the beliefs he states in public are not those he holds in private. There is too much smoke in his past associations. I am honestly concerned that he may be an individual who holds highly dangerous beliefs, beliefs nurtured by individuals such as Wright, Dohrn, etc., who are angry and somewhat delusional activists. Right now, I cannot vote for Mr. Obama.
This one will blow your mind:
Obama had to fire one of his campaign foreign policy advisors today because the international press reported that advisor was SECRETLY MEETING WITH HAMAS LEADERS IN GAZA.
Can you believe that shit?
Thanks for posting the video. I wish the Dems supporting Hillary had produced this video earlier and used it.
McCain will gte my vote if Obama is the nominee. I do not want to belong to the Democratic Party if the candidate that it puts in front of the American people has ties to terrorist (I don’t care if they are only former terrorists)and The Anti-American, Anti-Jewish, Anti-Italian, Anti-Etc. Church. Obama financially supported a church and reverend who blatantly preached hate and bigotry, when you buy it you own it.
That’s not even swift-boat stuff yet; just the regular Dems will raise your taxes plus empty suit newbie stuff.
YES WE CAN! HA! yes they can whine and complain.
You left out throw themselves in the floor, cry and blame everyone else for their problems.
Ben Smith has posted this statement by Senator Kennedy on his Politico.com site.
Kennedy: No veep slot for Clinton
It’s fun to think about, but there are so many obstacles, and Ted Kennedy isn’t buying, he said on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital With Al Hunt,” which airs this weekend.
“I don’t think it’s possible,” he told Hunt of the joint ticket, continuing that:
Obama should choose a running mate who “is in tune with his appeal for the nobler aspirations of the American people,” Kennedy said. “If we had real leadership — as we do with Barack Obama — in the No. 2 spot as well, it’d be enormously helpful.”
Ouch.
By Ben Smith 12:48 PM
Anyone wishing to chastize Senator Kennedy for this insulting remark towards a former First Lady and fellow Senator can e-mail him at senator@kennedy.senate.gov
Thanks, Jackie. This is what I just sent him:
“If we had real leadership — as we do with Barack Obama — in the No. 2 spot as well, it’d be enormously helpful.”
Did you actually say this? You owe an immediate apology to Senator Clinton, and to the American people. Not only is your candidate a disgrace, but so is your rhetoric. Have you seen the latest poll? Forty-five percent of Hillary supporters will not vote for Mr. Obama if he is the nominee. And it’s precisely because of shenanigans like this. You are apparently two peas in a pod.
You need to take a serious look at yourself, and what you stand for, Senator Kennedy.
There is little doubt that California will go Democratic in November. Unless it’s polling really close, I’ll write in Hillary. As bad as I think Obama will be, McCain will be worse. Bet on it.
My worry is that if Obama wins, the job will be too much for him, the GOP will be voted back in in 2012, and both the party and African-American politicians will suffer for years due to his incompetence. Damn, I hope I’m wrong.
You’re not wrong. It’s as clear as day. That’s why BO shouldn’t be given keys to the WH or anywhere else. Let him crawl back to Chicago where they tolerate such crude behavior.
For the first time in my adult life, I’m not proud to be a Democrat. Threats of violence, gleaming if not hauting stares in the precincts, raw emotion: simmering and boiling, fear. Voting was not a pleasant experience for me this time - it was incredibly intimidating but at least I got to vote behind a curtain.
The media’s handling of the primary has been biased and filtered from at least the middle of 2006. The portrait that the press and pundits paint is not the portrait that we, the invisibles, necessarily see. One candidate long declaring that they would support the other no matter what the outcome - the other hesitant to commit because it is only about winning.
As we near a final decision we see that this has been a primary waged at an intellectual and philosophical level - read my book…look at my dot.com.
Any time a weight or measuring gauge has been introduced into the conversation, the stage has been reset so that something more dramatic replaces the focus on a solution.
One campaign has been about finding and offering solutions the other about advancing personal agendas and maintaining the status quo - one can read through the list of superdelegates and readily deduce this. The dividing line goes all the way back to “universal health care”. One candidate attempting to put together a plan to offer to all Americans - as a starting point - the other allowing exclusions.
Why? Exclusions would allow the wealthy and elite to maintain their status quo. Wealth begats wealth. Money talks…one candidate has been very careful to make sure that tax breaks afforded to the wealthy remain as they are.
This has been all about proportions…in an attempt to balance the electoral map there is a serious imbalance in the formula 1 delegate = _____ votes.
There is yet hope but these are sad, very sad days.
I can no longer financial support the current DNC and will not. As an American though, I can choose to vote for the candidate that I feel represents my interpretation of the US Constitution and what it represents in November.
In some ways casting a vote for another party may also be making a statement about the MSM. We, the people, deserve a fair and balanced coverage of candidates and events. We have not been given that!
Why are the Obamabot trolls allowed to post here? They’ve taken over HuffPo, the Daily Orange Stalinist plus MSNBC and CNN. I understand that REAL Democrats like Hillary supporters don’t believe in censorship or rigged elections, denying voters rights like the Obama zealots but still this should be a place of refuge from those of us who have all but been kicked out of our own party by this “new” coalition of ill bred snots, latte drinking snobs and “only race matters, not policies” AA.
Perhaps they are so convinced that Precious is the nominee that they’re trolling every pro Hillary blog on a mission to get our vote. FAT CHANCE!
We know you consider us nothing more than bitter, uneducated, racist Archie Bunkers but never the less desperately need our vote in the event that BO should be given the nomination OVER the will of the people. But your campaign has sent you out to try “to make nice” with Hillary supporters and lull us into a false sense of “we’re all one” bs.
We are NOT one! We will never ever forget the vileness, disrespect and yes hatred with which Hillary Clinton and her supporters have benn treated in recent months. We will remember everything that was said and done well into November and beyond. Good luck with your new coalition…all 20% of you.
OMG! You ALL must go watch this wonderful Mother’s Day video emailed to me by Chelsea! It’s so beautiful! Send Hillary a Mother’s Day wish!
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/mothersday/?sc=1846&utm_source=1846&utm_medium=e
Thanks so much, INM. I told her about us here at NQ:
We are fighting so hard for you at NoQuarter, because we know you have, and are, and will continue to fight for us. Happy Mother’s Day! We Love You!
O.K., so the grammar isn’t perfect - I was caught up in the moment!
That’s PERFECT! She’ll love it.
I saw that and wrote a note about how much my late mother loved and respected Hillary Clinton for her tireless work to improve public education in Arkansas. Neither of my parents cared that much for Bill Clinton, but my mother absolutely LOVED HIllary! Unfortunately, both my parents were killed in an auto accident in 1993 so it brought tears to my eyes to write that to Hillary.
Is EVERYONE around here a Republican? Do you HONESTLY think that the GOP would NOT run negative, misleading ads against ANY Democrat?
Obama is going to kick McCain’s ASS in the fall, with or without you!
And if you EVER believed in what Hillary stands for, you would vote for Obama in A SECOND over 100-years of war, more Scalia’s on the bench McCain! I know Hillary will be voting for and supporting Obama in the fall (and may even, to his chagrin, be his running mate). . .
I guess it is your turn to fight for your civil rights since you and alliance of Barack are not appreciative of all the fight real DNC members fought for many years to provide you all of a better America. Disenfranchising, bullying, race-bating and sexism are not the practices of the real democrat. This 2008, not 1968. We’ve come a long way and you chose to go backwards???? WTF!
I guess it is your turn to fight for your civil rights since you and alliance of Barack are not appreciative of all the fight real DNC members fought for many years to provide you all of a better America. Disenfranchising, bullying, race-bating and sexism are not the practices of the real democrat. This is 2008, not 1968. We’ve come a long way and you chose to go backwards???? WTF!
No we’re all REAL Democrats. Something you would’nt understand. And I would’nt vote for that joke of a candidate your trying to force on us even if my own mother was running as his vp. And guess what? Most Hillary supporters feel exactly the same way which is another reason Hillary would not accept being his vp.
If Obama can “kick McCain’s ass” “without” me.. then have at it. WTF are you people even here? If you don’t need us, go away. Good luck with that new Democratic Party thing — hope that Donna Brazille’s vision of nothing but: “AAs, urban and suburbanites” and Russell Simmons “hip hop generation” is enough votes to overtake a moderate Repubican in the fall… yeah. Don’t need us? then don’t bother us.
To his chagrin?! Pardon-moi?! Uppps, I think I’ll leave the French out of this, as a bubba I’m not supposed to know the English language well enough let alone another (in fact six) language. Anyway, yes, if it makes you feel better, I’m republican for a day, hell, if Obama got them to be dems for a day, McCain will get me to be republican for a day too. (In November though.)
As far as your chagrin, here is the memo:
The noble 1980, zillion delegates away from Carter, all the way to the convention, not shaking hands Kennedy pretty much said Hillary is not noble, or noble enough for the Messiah. Hell, with their criteria it’s going to be damn hard to find one.
The high priests and priestesses of the Obama cult - and we know who they are - should be commended for excluding HRC in Team McGovern Redux. We don’t want her tarred. Besides, The One is bound to realize he has clay feet when he concedes defeat to a geriatric senator whom he had dismissed as someone who had lost his bearings. After all, it is entirely illogical for an Obaman to suddenly accept HRC as a president-in-waiting (like all Vice-Presidents are) after vilifying her repeatedly as humanity’s greatest enemy since the bird flu virus. Better the devil you know. Vote McCain if Obama is the Democrat nominee!
Get some new talking points. Obama hasn’t said that he will appoint pro choice judges.
ned bulous — you said Hillary “may even, to his chagrin, be his running mate. . .”
Way to bring it home sweetie. Are you being paid to come to Hillary supporting sites and get us on board? If so, you need to go back and get some more training.
Bless your heart…you just don’t get it do you? Americans will not vote for an unpatriotic, anti-American (perception is everything, kid) candidate for President. Given the choice of a (perceived) anti-American, unpatriotic candidate and a former POW…they’ll vote for the former POW — every time.
THIS from stupid Ned.
The same Ned who posts things about Hillary, carpet burns, and Muslims.
Clearly, Ned has a very very very low IQ.
He is his own worst enemy.
Fuck off, Ned. I have already raised an adolescent boy.
Here’s MY QUESTION (s) on FOREIGN POLICY!!!!
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Today’s Foreign News that Obama Probably Doesn’t Know a Thing About…”
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/
Who can forget that interview way back in 2000 when George W. Bush was asked who was heading Pakistan? Bush dismissively answered that it was some general and that it didn’t matter if he couldn’t recall the name, because he would be surrounded by advisers who knew all this stuff.
Were you impressed then? I sure wasn’t and I’m not impressed with Obama’s “expertise” on foreign policy either. His policies speeches may come chapter and verse straight from the party platform and he can buddy all he wants with Jimmy Carter…but that sort of “foreign policy by association” doesn’t cut it with me, especially after seeing Bush and Cheney in action. Spending a few years in Indonesia as a kid, having a dubious relationship with Odinga in Africa, and never having the curiosity to explore Europe doesn’t count either.
So, when I ask if Obama knows the name of the current Japanese prime minister it’s because I want to see his ATTITUDE when he answers. Is he going to act like Bush?
I wake up to the BBC World Service news every morning via shortwave radio and in about 5 minutes I learn more than I could ever learn from the American media. Today was a BIG NEWS DAY on at least 3 fronts–Russia, Lebanon, and, yes, Japan. Having followed a lot of the related news while churning out the World Media Watch for Buzzflash for quite a few years, the stories I heard really woke me up, fast! Because the spectre of Obama (or McCain) reacting to some of the situations reported gave me a kick in the gut.
MORE MORE MORE at my blog post….
I hope that you are no longer with Buzzflash — the traitors have gone full out push for snObama. I’ve not been there in ages.
Thank you for your work of reporting the world news. And yes the BBC is a fantastic resource.
I could have sworn I’d already posted this here, but I didn’t see it. Enjoy - this is fantastic, and very encouraging!
by J. Gold
We are a Month Away from Victory day, we We Will Win - and the Media know it. The enemy knows it. Their collaborators know it. All are desperately trying to save Obama from the inevitable confrontation which will see him reduced to rubble. Pundits and journalists are going all out to bail-out his behind - before they see their chances of Unholy Redemption, evaporate.
Not this time. You picked the wrong Senator to tussle with! The wrong voters to disenfranchise, and the wrong people to mock!
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It’s being chronicled at noquarter and taylormarsh, and it doesn’t really need further documenting. Recent attempts by the punditocracy to nominate our Party’s Presidential Candidate, are instances of the “grassroots” Fat-Cats in the Media and Political elite, to destroy Clinton once and for all.
Obama doesn’t stand a chance of winning the nomination, and as the Primary rolls to a close, this becomes too painfully apparent to Messrs. Axelrod, Plouff, and Penny Pritzker. He can’t get the delegates, or popular vote. Upcoming primaries will vindicate Clinton, and the Obama scoundrels last resort, is to apply overwhelming Media pressure to our morale, to beat us into submission and take us out of the voter calculus.
They’ve done this incessantly throughout the Race, and now it appears, they are reaching Critical Mass.
Critical Mass means making the contest a foregone conclusion, and minimizing Clinton turnout in the next six contests. Clinton supporters are supposedly to be licking our wounds, instead of showing up in West Virginia, Oregon, Kentucky, and Puerto Rico.
Optimally, this demoralization is best accomplished by henceforth altogether ignoring Clinton. To take her out of the media circuit, and marginalize her to the degree of a Mike Gravel and Ron Paul, the level of court jesters, or gadflies. For this media strategy to succeed, however, Clinton supporters must buy into the “we have lost” logic.
Don’t count on it. We wont. It’s what the Axis Powers tried on us during the War, and its what brought them endless humiliation, when Democracy stood towering over their defeated cause.
The Critical Mass in the media, has been reached. There is consensus, unanimous and monolithic to a truly debilitating degree, that Clinton has been taken out. Our counterstrategy- don’t buy into it. Don’t buy into it and redouble your efforts for phoning, donating, blogging, and whatever it takes to reach out to voters in the five and a half states.
Your efforts will not go to waste. Victory is around the corner. The reason we are seeing Critical Mass, is precisely because Obama is about to be destroyed. They are attacking your morale, because their own resolve and morale, are dissipating. Critical Mass, is the counteroffensive to our D-Day.
Obama is too tired, too exhausted, too reluctant, to carry on the fight beyond July 8th. He knows he will be devastated by Puerto Rico. For all their yapping, the Obama camp cannot afford to disenfranchise Florida and Michigan, and once the Primary is over, this will become painfully clear to his supporters, who are in for a giant let down.
Obama feels the same. Repeatedly, he has expressed dismay at having to continue the struggle against our Roosevelt. Its pure fear on Obama’s part. The fear of being humiliated in front of voters, having to backtrack on Florida and Michigan, being exposed as divisive, arrogant, and self-serving. Obama knows too well, that he lacks the gamesmanship, the skill, or discipline and resolve, to take this all the way to Denver. Obviously, all of Obama’s supporter’s enthusiasm, is not reflecting on his own flagging morale.
Only Clinton, can overcome and vanquish. Only Clintonites know how to carry on the good fight. But with this last Critical Mass offensive by the Obama forces, naturally moral will be hit. As casualties mount, we cannot lose sight of the objective.
We must be realistic. By surviving we win, the enemy loses. Survive this to Puerto Rico, and you are home free. Its only if you take yourself out of the game, that we will lose. Obama has absolutely no way, mathematical or otherwise, of securing the Nomination if we are in the game. Past July 8th, all odds favor Clinton.
In our media environment, it will take a leap of faith to take this message to heart and continue the fight. Our mental reliance on the media, is not a proverbial joke or exaggeration. What do we do, tune out? As Jamal recommended some time ago, righteous anger and conviction, and iron resolve to take this to Denver, are what we are made of. Clinton is our Presidential Choice, because those are the character traits which earn our loyalty. Media or no media, trudge on, prepared to slug it out to the last man.
Clinton’s victory does present a Historically unprecedented opportunity, for the American people to defeat the Media Leviathan suffocating our Democracy.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Americas Greatest President, did it in 1932 and 1936, when all the newspapers, and all the journals were as prejudiced against him, as the media are today against Senator Clinton. Roosevelt was even threatened by a Fascist march on the Capital - and yet, contrary to the hype and vicious propaganda of his day, he Overcame, he Vanquished, he Won.
And what a great Victory it was for the American People! What a Champion of the Common Man and Socialism, Roosevelt turned out to be. Four terms, was not enough for such a man, as two terms will no doubt not suffice for Clinton!
In 2008, we no longer have the McCormicks and Pulitzer media-barons who once tore into Roosevelt’s stride, but we are still stuck with bloodsuckers like the Hearts, Scripps, Chandlers, and countless new piranha stoking ignorance in the Populace for their Fat-Cat political gains. A Clinton victory, is a Historic opportunity to defeat these Fascists, once and for all!
For as the Media fall, humiliated by a Clinton Presidential Nominee, with it the American people will rise, emboldened by our new found sense of individual power. All we need is our resolve, and our vote - Our Victory, is around the corner!
Remember those days Franklin Delano Roosevelt struggled for the Welfare of the American people and the World, and remember whose legacy your Vote commemorates, and calls back to Life. Remember, only your resolve made Roosevelt possible, and only Roosevelt’s resolve made the America of Social Security, of Solvency, of Equality, of Dignity, Freedom, and Democracy, possible.Senator Clinton, she is Roosevelt, she is America, she is Victory, she is You!
Don’t let anyone steal your vote, by telling you it has already been thrown in the rubbish. Victory is ours for the taking. Hold on to June 8th - and you will see.
http://www.stop-obama.org/?p=340#comments
Dear Lord, those people can write!
That is AWESOME! Talk about a pick me up! I feel so much better after reading that.
Umm, regarding Michigan, you might want to take a look at this Hillary quote about the Michigan election:
“It’s clear, this election they’re having is not going to count for anything,” Clinton said Thursday during an interview on New Hampshire Public Radio’s call-in program, “The Exchange.”
source: Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/11/AR2007101100859_pf.html
Outstanding commentary!
IS HILLARY DONE? seems like polling firm stuck the fork in her…
Rasmussen isn’t the ONLY polling firm. Hillary’s not going anywhere…polling or no polling. SUSA is much better anyway…
Rasmussen is owned and run by a Republican group that consistently appears on Fox News.
They WANT Obama to win so McCain can destroy him in November.
EVERYBODY knows that, darlin.
i still think he is a double agent for the republican party. and the republican owned news media.
they want him to win so that they can distroy him…wink wink,they cant distroy a democrat that realy wasnt a democrat…..my PERSONAL WOUNDERINGS NOT BASED ON FACTS.
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i wounlnt dought some day i will hear[ i was a republican all the time and i screwd the democrats. na na na na na]
I wonder what the Rasmussen poll will say in October, after Obama’s media leghumpers have turned on him (you know they will, don’t you? Mrs. Greenspan?, Timmy?, CNN? General Electric? Lol!). I’d hate to be one of the Obama Faithful in the trenches then.
The “I Told You Sos” post November will be deafening. Howie, and Donna, and John, and Teddy, and Nancy…You betcha!
As dense as I am, I’m beginning to realize many Obatians don’t have the faintest idea of what his policies are - or what he has supported in the past. For instance, some support O because of his “energy policy,” not even knowing that O voted for Cheney and Oil buddies so-called energy policy. I doubt if they have bothered to examine how ideas/policies, etc. stack up in comparison. If they do, they will find O is relatively close to many repub policies, i.e. the privatization of social security; a health care plan that leaves out millions of people, push for school vouchers and charter schools, and a continuation of bush/reagan economic policies which advocate PRIVATIZATION or elimination of many government programs - just as the Chicago Boys from Milton Friedman’s Chicago School advocate. Getting rid of Roosevelt’s New Deal is one of their prime battles. It’s a recipe for disaster for millions of low income people - which this type of economics policy accepts as part of doing business.
I think part of the gasoline “crises,” created by the futures market, is also invented to create the “economic disaster” which fosters so much change. All this is outlined in Naomi Klein’s the Shock Doctrine, and if you haven’t read it, you must. Also “splains a lot.”
Obama is a dangerous, dangerous, unknown and shadowy figure to be installing in the WH. America will live to regret it if we should be so unfortunate as to elect him.
This is what this election is all about. It’s not between personalities, but the continuation of policies that insist on reaming the lower and middle classes into oblivion.
They don’t call Obamatians “the faithful” for nothing, you know. It’s the way of the cult, and cults have a bad end. The Obama Cult, if Howie/Brazile/the goo goo left have their way, has a date with reality in October/November.
We, of course, will have told them so. Over and over and over. But, like all faithful, they’ve come to The Truth.
The gasoline crisis is not just created by the futures market, but that is a part of it. If we were to restore the previous capital gains tax, it would make reckless speculation less attractive to investors, and thus avoid the wild swings in prices we’ve been seeing.
But another major reason for the rising costs in gasoline is the crumbling value of the Dollar. And I haven’t heard ANY of the remaining candidates address that issue.
have you?
Dollar vs Euro is down about 14% in the same time period that Brent, West Texas Intermediate and Kuwaiti crude (the three that I follow) are up in excess of 35%.
It’s a “basket” (old 80’s buzzword) of causes.
The solution is to find something else to run these damned cars on, take the bus once in a while, and start Swelling Remdiation up to and including solar collectors for DHW and PV cells.
THE wake-Up Call was in 1973, but America has had its national thumb up its collective ass for 35 years. Expect it to be an expensive lesson.
For “Swelling Remediation,” read, “Dwelling Remediation.”
Fat Freddie’s Feckless Fingers strike again.
Pure and simple. The Democratic party has been hijacked by the extreme left wing, just as the Republican party was hijacked by the extreme right wing. Most Americans do not support extremists in this country anymore than they do in other parts of the world. They will vote for the candidate who is seen as the more moderate regardless of party affiliation. The Republicans know this, that is why McCain ended up with the nomination. It was their only chance in hell, after these last 8 years, of keeping the presidency. That is why Hillary is staying in this race. She is able to capture those votes for the Democratic party. If Obama gets the nomination, enough of those votes will go to McCain, mine included, and he will win in November.
you bet!
Will Obama make his campaign more inclusive with orations about the bitter white Christian gunowners?
What’s next, speaking critically of pickups on gravel roads?
My Jewish, turkey- and deer-hunting, pickup-driving, gun-toting cousins (they won’t kill anything after sundown on Friday) already feel excluded from the discussion and ’scriminated against, according to Stan and Howie, or, Junior and Bubba, as the Cracker side of the clan calls them.
Nice use of the WECAN refrain. It’s a reheated acronym for Woodlawn East Community And Neighbors. Let’s hope his policies aren’t rewrites from his Rezko and other assorted cronies days.
Thanks for the video. I am certain this is the first time that I have seen a republican video in my 51 years of life and entirely agreed with it.
I just had my first of many “they’re right” moments.
Round one of: republicans vs obamacans.
Hillary will watch from the sidelines and step in just after they beat the crap out of him.
This is awesome! I love that ad, it so beautifully calls out baby Barack for refusing to answer questions. LOL! Can’t WAIT to see what the 527s do. It’ll work in Hillary’s favor that Obamalamadingdong has declared himself the presumptive Democratic nominee (he’s a lot of things, but Democratic sure isn’t one of them!). Now the weakling will confront real attacks from Republicans. Bring it on!! Yahoo!
You know the “Democratic” party has completely self-destructed when they push a candidate SO NEFARIOUS that lifelong Democrats agree with the Republicans. And no, if Hillary is not the nominee we will not be ‘good little girls’ and vote for the boy. We’ll vote for the €€man, John McCain!
I sent for my voter re-registration form yesterday. I will switch from Democrat to Independent.
How can I continue to support a party whose leaders say thing like the following? This is Ted Kennedy on why Obama probably won’t or shouldn’t pick Clinton as his VP.
‘Kennedy, 76, without naming names, said Obama should pick someone who “is in tune with his appeal for the nobler aspirations of the American people. If we had real leadership — as we do with Barack Obama — in the No. 2 spot as well, it’d be enormously helpful,” Kennedy said.’
I am really beginning to hate the Demnocratic leadership - Dean, Brazile, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry….
I hope McCain kicks Obama’s ass in the fall……
I keep reading Obama trolls promoting his candidacy against McBush and many Hillary supporters who emphatically state that they will vote for McBush rather than support Obama. On issues, I actually AGREE that voting for McBush makes little sense. HOWEVER, whoever becomes POTUS in January, 2009, will inherit a gigantic shit sandwich so it’s not as though we would be doing the GOP ANY favors if McBush somehow manages to squeak past Obama.
Frankly, there is NO WAY IN HELL that I am voting for McBush, but thus far, I have not seen a good reason to support Obama either. It took Obama a LONG time to finally commit himself to support Hillary Clinton, if she were to win the nomination–and to my knowledge, Michelle Obama’s last comment on supporting Hillary Clinton, if she were to somehow become the Democratic presidential nominee, was that she “would have to think about it”, which doesn’t exactly fit my definition of a “loyal Democrat”.
With the various gaffes that have come out of the Obama campaign (e.g., “first time” that Michelle was really “proud” of her country, Barack’s comment about invading Pakistan, the “bitter” remark, “the claws come out” remark, etc.), I cannot help but wonder if an Obama presidency would not be more destructive than a McBush presidency with a strong Democratic Congress that McBush will have to work through to get ANYTHING accomplished.
Having said that, I still currently plan to vote for the Democratic ticket in November (yes, even Obama), unless, of course, Obama becomes the nominee and manages to pick a really bad running mate. I am NOT “happy” about the prospect of voting for Obama because I honestly believe that this man is a VERY weak candidate for POTUS, not only because he has never really been truly vetted (i.e., the media have given Obama a “free pass” for most of the campaign) but also because he lacks the experience and intellectual depth to handle the job. And worst of all, Obama is too damned arrogant to recognize just how inexperienced and ill-equipped he is to handle the job! When Obama commented that he would be looking for a running mate that “knew about a lot of stuff” that he was weak on, the question was asked if that meant that he would be looking for foreign policy expertise in a running mate, to which Obama responded that foreign policy was the one area where he felt like he knew MORE than just about anyone else! All I can say is, God help us if this arrogant fool actually believes such crap! As I recall, the moron (BUSH!) that we have now also seemed to believe that he, too, knew so much MORE about foreign policy than Al Gore or Bill Clinton–that his foreign policy would be so much “better” than that of Bill Clinton’s because he would NEVER engage in “nation building” or invading countries without good reason. And then, we get Iraq! Need I say more?
After 8 years of unparalleled arrogant incompetence, the ONE trait that many of us want above all else is COMPETENCE! From what I have seen of Obama thus far, I am not convinced that he would provide competence. I particularly worry about Obama’s arrogance–that’s what got this country in the giant hole it currently occupies–having a president who is too damned arrogant and self-assured to even ponder another viewpoint on ANY issue. If that’s what Obama has to offer, then I will write someone in, and I will NOT shed a tear if McBush prevails in the process–at least, McBush is not a completely incompetent fool!
I cancelled everything: MoveOn, Democracy for America(DFA), Michael Moore, TureMajority and oh, DNC too. I totally stopped my monthly contribution. As to DNC, I told them no more money or any form of support until all delegates of MI and FL are seated.
Good for you!!!!!!
The DNC definitely has felt the effect of people pissed off over Michigan and Florida. 2-3 weeks ago I gave a DNC fundraiser who called me an earful. I told her that I was NOT contributing a red cent to the DNC until they figured out an equitable remedy to the situation with Michigan and Florida. I went on to say that I could understand that Michigan was a problem since all the candidates were not on the ballot. HOWEVER, I went on to explain that I could see no reason whatsoever for not seating the Florida delegation “as is” and allowing them full voting rights.
Anyway, that gal spent 20-30 minutes talking to me about this problem. She expressed her own frustration and said that she was talking to more and more people just like me–people who do not want to donate a red cent until they figure out an equitable solution to Florida and Michigan. She also told me that Howard Dean had held a conference call that morning to discuss the situation with Florida and Michigan and possible remedies. I doubt that this woman would have wasted so much time talking to me about this problem if the DNC were not suffering as a result.
For what it’s worth, I’ve looked at the numbers for Florida and Michigan, and even with those delegates, Hillary still trails Obama, although the difference is much smaller. I honestly do not see how Hillary can catch up with Obama at this point, which certainly saddens me because Obama is a complete train wreck. In the end, these “Super Delegates” will make the ultimate decision about who will be the Democratic nominee for POTUS. I do not really expect these people, practically all of whom are pols themselves, to buck the popular vote or the pledged delegate count. Hence, we should all be preparing ourselves for the likelihood that Obama will be the Democratic nominee for POTUS.
If Obama had a grain of sense (and given his gaffe about 59 states, that seems like a stretch), he would be magnanimous and accept seating Florida “as is” and allow a re-vote for a Michigan PRIMARY. Obama’s resistance to seating Florida and a new primary in Michigan tells me that the Obama campaign is afraid that he is actually LOSING GROUND with white voters. Otherwise, he would accept whatever “ground rules” that the Clinton people want to impose because, as I said above, the numbers are just not there for Hillary. It’s things like this that make this Democrat want to bolt from Obama–i.e., in his pursuit of the nomination, Obama seems to be just as willing to bend and distort the election process as the Republicans were in 2000 and 2004.
I cannot agree with others here that McBush is an alternative to Hillary Clinton. I may ultimately write someone in, if Obama does not show me more than he has shown me thus far, but I honestly cannot understand ANY Democrat who would support McBush, given his positions on the various issues. I will also be looking at the person that Obama chooses to be his running mate. While it seems like a long shot for Obama to even ask Hillary to be on his ticket (particularly with Obama’s bitch wife calling the shots), stranger things have happened–just look at Kennedy and LBJ back in 1960. Would people here who have vowed to vote for McBush if Obama is the Democratic nominee still feel that way if Hillary Clinton were in the VP slot on his ticket? I know that no one here really wants to see Obama at the top of the ticket, but wouldn’t Hillary in the second slot give you a reason to reconsider the Democratic ticket this year? It certainly would give me a reason to support Obama in the general, which I currently do NOT have–I only have a desire to avoid another Republican who can put corporatists on the SCOTUS and other federal court appointments.
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Please count Florida, why is Guam counted and not Florida? Did Guam become a State? Hey everyone Florida is a State! Count our vote!
I have voted in every election at every level of local, state and federal government that I could since I turned 18, proudly marking D all the way down the ticket every time.
No more. I’ve already been over to the McCain folks, where I received a very gracious welcome along with many, many other Hillary supporters. I know who I’ll be voting for in November.
I mean, if I’m in a party that is using GOP tactics, like vote suppression, intimidation, and racist dogwhistles, I may as well be in the GOP. Besides, have Republican friends so I know they’re not all evil troglodytes. I don’t think McCain is evil (although I do think Bush is). Stealing votes and disenfranchising voters, to me that is evil.
Here’s another benefit to voting McCain. For the first time in many, many, many, many years (actually not since I voted for that hood-wearing KKK member Bill Clinton), I’ll be voting on the winning side. It’ll be a nice change.
Well, I would’ve had fun posting tonight, but having another post ate by now flood control — nope. Takes time to post and to have it disappear without a trace (between sending and page refresh even), it’s time to post at other venues.
Have fun guys and gals.