Obama to Declare “Victory” on May 20?
By SusanUnPC on May 10, 2008 at 3:19 PM in ABC News, Barack Obama, David Axelrod, Hillary Clinton
We already know that Obama has the outsized ego and self-absorbed obsession with winning equaled only by that of George W. Bush. We know that he fancies himself the second coming of Abraham Lincoln. But must we endure the same imagery?
“Obama To Claim Victory May 20“:
Sen. Barack Obama plans to claim the Democratic presidential nomination on the evening of May. 20.
The Illinois senator’s chief strategist told CBS station WBBM-TV that is the night Obama expects to have locked up a majority of the elected pledged delegates. [...]
The Obama campaign is planning a big victory rally on that date, in a scope well beyond the typical rally following past primary victories.
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NEWS FLASH! UPDATE via William’s comment: “I hear that on May 25, Obama will make his first State of the Union Speech. On May 28, he will declare his first term as President a complete success. On May 29, he will announce plans to seek a second term, which he believes he can complete by the middle of June.”
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It is entirely the doing of a nationally syndicated rightwing radio host — noted here at No Quarter in “Aha! It’s Rush Limbaugh’s Fault that Obama Lost Indiana!” — that Obama didn’t get to declare “victory” sooner, claims Obama’s marketing puppeteer David Axelrod:
Axelrod noted that Clinton’s final margin of victory in Indiana was only 1.1 percent–a margin, he said, produced by Rush Limbaugh’s so-called Operation Chaos. He claims that Obama would have won the state without Limbaugh’s efforts to get his listeners to vote for Clinton, thereby prolonging the election battle.
ABC News’s Jake Tapper was not as respectful of Obama’s big plans:
Obama May Declare Victory Before Winning
“That will be an important day," Obama said. "If at that point we have the majority of pledged delegates, which is possible, then I think we can make a pretty strong claim that we’ve got the most runs and it’s the ninth inning and we’ve won.”
Except of course that this isn’t a fight for a majority of pledged delegates. It’s a fight for the majority of total delegates — which includes superdelegates. And the number is 2,025. Not the majority of pledged delegates — the majority of total delegates.
So to use a football analogy: Up by 14, Obama has the ball at Clinton’s 10 yard line with 30 seconds left. Clinton has been arguing with the ref to include touchdowns and field goals that they ruled illegitimate. Clinton has been trying to convince the refs to go into overtime, and she wants to move the goal posts into the stands.
Now Obama wants the game to end early, and he wants the goal posts moved to the 10-yard line.
This strikes me as possibly a huge miscalculation.
Obama began his presidential quest in Springfield, Illinois — as if he were Abraham Lincoln. A rather disrespectful Jake Tapper noted at the time:
Standing outside the Historic Old State Capitol building where Abraham Lincoln gave a famous speech condemning slavery and calling for the United States to unite, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., a 45-year-old with two years of federal legislative experience under his belt, today announced that he will claim the mantle of Lincoln and as president heal a divided nation.
“I recognize there is a certain presumptuousness in this, a certain audacity,” Obama said, cheekily invoking his best-selling political treatise “The Audacity of Hope.” [...]
For a man born in Hawaii, educated in Manhattan and Cambridge, Mass., and who lives in Chicago, Springfield was an interesting choice of location for his announcement speech, one designed to allow Obama to beef up his resume a tad by invoking his work as a state senator. …
But most of all Springfield allowed Obama to immodestly and continuously compare himself to Lincoln.
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USS Abraham Lincoln as if it were a gambler’s river steamboat! Obama will land on the flight deck, codpiece and all, and then change into one of his five threadbare suits.
David Axelrod and other Obama marketing geniuses are already making plans to sell the 
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to me that is election fraud..he will not have enough delegates to declare victory..
and he is doing this before the May 31st..decision on Florida and Michigan!
this is bogus and fraud of the American electorate!
and there will be a revolt..count on that..and if we don’t revolt we get what we deserve!
There must be an mass exodus from the dem party by re-registering as republicans!..going indy is not enough!
fly
fly
everyone who knows me will absolutely crap themselves!
but i am willing to show my refusal to be disenfranchised!
fly
But going Indy lets Dems still keep their dignity.
It would quite hard for a dyed-in-the-wool Dem to register as a Republican, when most, if not all of their platform they can’t agree too (heck, I’m a Traditional and can’t agree with most of it!).
Independent is a saving grace. Still be a Dem, and vote on the issues, instead. For those who live in states that bar you from voting for each, that would be a tough break (couldn’t live in a state that forces a voter to register by party).
you can swtich right back..after sending the message on May 20th!…or change from repug to indy..
but a strong message must be sent ..period.
the dems are not worried about indy’s!
Chris, I’ve been a democrat since I was five. The day I saw JFK say “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what can do for your country” he had me, hook, line, sinker, heart and soul. I refuse to give up my party to the likes of Barky and his spoiled gimmee sycophants. They are the very opposite of JFK and what he stood for.
Strawberry,
I understand your sentiment, but I believe the idiot far-left wing looney-toon fringe has already taken over. Thus we have Obama. I’m thoroughly disgusted with it all.
By the looks of it, the DP has been overrun by the same radical left as the GOP (Neo-Cons are the Far-Left of conservatism, and it’s an ideology with a root in Communism). When they crash a party, it’s not impossible, but it’s very difficult to do anything as they’ll block, ridicule, and destroy anything they dislike — and especially cruel to like kind.
I’m a conservative so what I know personally from party squabbles is this: back in 2004, the rift in the GOP (that’s apparent now) was beginning to show it’s cracks. The Right-Right to Far-Right wingers were very upset with Bush and his Empire machine, and some other social policies. They bolted to the Constitution party, the LP, and others became Independent. They left because they couldn’t push policy and the Neo-Cons were ridiculing us to no end (I was even banned from Hannity’s forum, in their post-election clean up — they hated me for defending Dan Rather was the real reason — which is a badge of honor, as I won’t play the partisan game).
Folks could stay in and reform the party, but it takes a HUGE push by members to oust the power structure. It would have to be a major revolt. Even with McInsane as the GOP nominee, it didn’t produce the anger needed to rid the GOP of the Neo-Cons — and this is the worst fracture since ‘76 for the GOP.
The problem I see in these parties is the base would rather plug along. The power structure knows this (”give them 3 meals a day, and they won’t revolt” law from Communism), and will be as cocky as Donna, because they know they can get away with it — “Where would you go, suckers?”, is their thinking. Plugging along betrays everything the voters spend trying to reform, as all that work goes down the drain with a stroke of a pen or email. Case in point, is this election with the railroad job to get Obama elected.
The wings of the GOP bolted for less.
I’m not a magician to change a party, but I do know BOTH parties are screwed up. They take for granted voters, and will screw them to get their way — then expect you to even pay to be raped afterwards. Thus, I’m an independent, as I don’t pay to be abused, nor will compromise values or principles to some corrupt party bosses.
Stay or leave, but NEVER trade your values and principles for a party. The day that is done, this country is screwed. We have a responsibility to caretake this nation, because if it’s gone to these power maniacs and their interests, there will be NO parties to worry about. We’ll be subjects to yet another King.
Keep freedom alive, folks. Once gone, it takes wars to gain them back, as Power won’t give back rights it takes in the night.
I’m ready to quit the party. I’m disgusted at this sexist bullshit. They probably won’t miss the couple of hundred bucks I toss at them, but if enough people tell them to pound sand, maybe they’ll get the drift.
Maybe we need to start a site and gather our forces to split from the party all at once. I bet there is probably a site already somewhere.
Anyone?
please check out savagepolitics.com
most all of the posters there will not vote bo in november.
there has been talk from one of the regulars about creating another site…especially since taylor marsh says she’ll support the dem ticket no matter who’s on it.
I think this would be the ultimate attention getter for the DNC. Everyone switch as closely together as possible. If this behind the scenes maneuvering by the DNC elite to keep Hillary out works, maybe they will find out that the people aren’t as stupid as they think.
great idea. but some of us are in states like texas, where i am, where we don’t register for a party. so we have no way to make that statement (other than voting mccain, of course, which i plan to do).
anybody have any ideas what those of us in this position can do? (i’ve tried writing with my opinions, am sure they don’t give a shit).
Want to add this: notice what’s on CNN right now about the “D.C. Madam”? Did you hear how many men from how many agencies of government — crap even NASA — were involved?
That’s how they regard women. That’s how they can get away being sexist pigs on MSNBC (because probably their power base were being “serviced” in the same way from one of these “agencies”) and beyond.
As long as women regard prostitution as a “victimless” crime, the longer men will continue to regard women as nothing but objects to fill with semen. It doesn’t help that sisters themselves believe it’s a “good job that pays well” (honey, you’re still making 68 cents to that John’s dollar).
Equality won’t come easy, not only for men to change a mindset, but for women who still want to be treated as special and equal. Either you’re special without the protections and rights of being equal; or equal and have to be “one of the guys”. That’s the main crux of the whole ERA movement — women refusing to BE equals, especially when they continue to be tools for the power structure that pays them even 68 cents to their dollar of income to “service” them.
Sisters do it to themselves, and with a smile. :rolleyes:
WE should threaten to riot TOO. Wouldn’t THAT shock the DNC! What would they do if they saw a bunch of typical white people, over 50 females and senior citizens and Italian Garlic-Noses and working class blue collar workers and Catholics and Jews rioting in the streets of wherever Mr. Arrogant plans to anoint himself President?
THAT’S FOR ME!
Sorry, Fly, but I will never, never vote for a Republican, let alone register as one.
I will write in Hillary’s name if she’s not the nominee, and while I’ve been toying with the idea of going Independent, I’ve decided to stay in the party. As long as Wes Clark and Bill and Hill are Democrats, I’m a Democrat.
The Oborg isn’t going to drive me out. I’m going to work to drivethem out. Let them go third party. I’ll be double damned if I’m going to let these creeps drive me out. Fuck ‘em.
Even if not elected, Obama and caucus will reshape and take over the party and totally reframe it.
This is undoubedtly their big [Dean] vision. New voters, internet, and AA rule. Make it over and chase out all that don’t heil to the chief
Latinos can get lost along with older voters, blue collar white working class, former Clintonites, and anyone who won’t go along. Women, forget about it. AA site has Hillary on a Tshirt they sell marked, “HO”.
Lovely people.
Perhaps intead of trying to don JFK’s mantle, he is instead donning GWB’s. Same thin resume and same propensity to declare victory before the battle is over. History is always doomed to repeat itself.
absolutely Jes..you got it!!
Well, GW was Governor.
And at least served in the National Guard and piloted jets (which isn’t easy).
When we sold F-15 to the Saudis they had to make the instruction manuals easy enough for a 5th grader to read.
Obama knows, he was in on the deal, illegally.
/snark.
Except he wanted to sell them to Hamas.
God bless Washington…
/snark.
Aren’t there laws against impersonating cherished images? There ought to be.
He’s gonna need his costume collection for the comedy movies yet to be made.
Michelle as Bride of Frankenstein comes to mind.
A Nation he, himself, divided. Mission Accomplished.
Completely egomaniacal.
“A Nation he, himself, divided. Mission Accomplished.
Completely egomaniacal.”
Right, but Hillary saying she gets the votes of “hard-working Americans, white Americans”–no division there…
Yeah after Bambi called us bitter Archie Bunkers and Donna Brazilla told us to leave, there’s a new democratic base in town.
She was quoting an article that was quoting a poll!
GEEZUSFUCKINGKRIST.
I am so freakin’ sick of this damn double standard. SO FUCKING WHAT IF SHE QUOTED A POLL SHOWING THAT MORE (YUCK!) WHITE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HER THAN MR. ARROGANT? SO WHAT! WHY IS THAT AN ISSUE, BUT WE CAN HEAR OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW MR. ARROGANT HAS GOTTEN 90% OF THE BLACK VOTE?
Enough with the bullshit racism. Everyone knows Hillary is no racist and Mr. Arrogant IS.
So happens to be a totally accurate remark, and she actually said this in response to an AP dispatch stating this when asked by USA. She concurred, as I and so many others do.
It happens to be true.This is a deal he will not be able to close.
The audacity of arrogance strikes again!
What a STROKE!!!!!
that little prick is doing it the day after the Kentucky primary..that little nasty prick is doing it to steal the thunder of Hillary winning the second big state by huge margins!
well fuck him and fuck the dem party..i am done…
we must send a huge message and all go down and re-register as republicans..and send him and the dem party a clear message..on that same day May 20th…
that means he is not only disenfranchising Florida and Michigan..he is disenfranchising all of the USA and all democrats…
how can we get this message out??
lets start the protest and plan on going to re-register as republicans..and steal that little pricks thunder!
they like to talk about Reagan democrats..well we can be Obama’s defection republicans!
fly
Register as an Independent, not Republican. You can be a swing voter.
Not Independent. Republican.
They’ll simply state that Obama/Dem’s get Independent votes. The fact that we are so disgusted and fed-up with these Rovian tactics we would do the unthinkable and REGISTER as Republicans will make quite a statement.
Something tells me that they’ll hear our message LOUD AND CLEAR.
On other sites we were talking about an on masse Green Party registration. They’ll definitely notice when that party’s registration numbers quadruple at least. (Esp. after 2000)
if you really want to send a message to the DNC….REGISTER AS A REPUBLICAN….YOU CAN FUCK THE DNC WITH YOUR VOTES….AND CHANGE TO INDEPENDENT….LATER….MAKE IT HURT….
We have been discussing this idea for days. I truly believe that this is an AUTHENTIC way to PROTEST the unethical, undemocratic behavior our party “leaders” have displayed throughout this primary season.
Here’s the proposal…
On May 20th, the day Little Lord Obama will claim his “Mission Accomplished” bullshit, we steal his thunder by raising a banner of our own. I mean, seriously, what’s the harm in registering Republican for the GE? We have been living through this bullshit for 7+ years and it’s painfully evident that this little “wannabe” is pulling the same divisive and illegal crap. They don’t care if they lose us? Fine. They won’t lose us to the Independents, they’ll lose us to the Republicans. Wonder how that’s going to work for them? Be certain that THIS will attract the attention of the MSM. Count on it.
Let’s do this. We must do it TOGETHER so our defection leaves a indelible scar. Large fractions of the Democratic base defecting to the Republican party will ultimately be Little Lord Obama’s legacy.
MAY 20th is D-Day! Defection Day!
Any ideas of how we can implement this?
I will never register as a Republican. They are against all my values. I changed my registeration from Dem to Independent about a month ago.
Me too. NEVER would I change to R if only for a month.
If I change it will be back to Independent where I was a decade or so ago.
I would join a “workingclass” party if there were one. Hillary would be our party nominee!
We aren’t saying indefinitely. Read my post below.
NO, NO, and NO. I would not register as a Republican if you held a gun to my head.
Sorry, Fooj, but this is profoundly baaad idea. You know the Pubs would just turn around and have even more of theirs register as Democrats–all because of their great love for and admiration of The One, doncha know.
No way, Fooj. No way.
Jes-
I understand where you’re coming from. I, too, am a devoted Democrat. Don’t think I haven’t struggled with this idea. I certainly have. However, I believe that at this point in time, the only way to send a clear message that will gain ANY traction is to defect to the OPPOSITION party. The Independent Party is LOADED with Repubs. The way I see it, what’s the difference? I am the ONLY member of my family that is registered as a Dem. You can be certain that when they catch wind of my “defection” the earth will stop spinning on its axis. I’ll get their attention as they will KNOW that something is terribly, terribly wrong.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Can you imagine what chaos this will create within the Republican Party? Do you honestly think for one moment that the Repubs want a bunch of disillusioned, disgruntled LIBERALS infiltrating their party? Barack claims that he can “transcend” partisan politics by reaching across the isle. We’ll show him and the Democratic Leadership exactly how it’s done. We can BLUR the lines so effectively that no one will know who’s who in the zoo.
In addition, we can send a message to Rove and Co.—get the hell out of our party and STAY OUT! No one using Rovian tactics are welcome here. Crunch those #’s all you want, asshole. You’ll never know where they’re coming from. NOW WE HAVE BECOME YOUR PROBLEM.
MAY 20, 2008 D-Day!!! National Democratic DEFECTION Day!
Each person has to do what they think is right. If you thinks that’s the right path for you, then you should follow it.
I’m a different case. I’m very liberal and will not register as a Republican, even for a day. Their platform is the antithesis of what I believe in. And I like the thought of being an Independent. I have no plans to change back to Democrat unless that party has radical changes in leadership and values.
I think it’s good idea for voters to change political parties to send a signal to the DNC. If Democrats defect enmass on the day that Obama declares victory, the Democratic party will get that message loud and clear.
I absolutely understand and respect your POV. Isn’t it nice to discuss differences of opinion in a rational, civil way? That’s the difference between “us” and “them”.
After all, we ARE on the same team.
So…let’s get this ball rolling. MAY 20th- D-Day! National Democratic DEFECTION Day.
i also respect your POV ..i just come from it as someone who has fought so hard to get minority votes to count in florida only to see mine and all democrats who have worked equally hard to get our votes to count ..and see them flushed down a stinky toilet by the democratic party By Dean, Obama, Pelosi, Brazile, Kerry, Kennedy and many others in a party that i have contributed and worked for for more years with blood sweat and tears and money than i wish to remember..i wish i could still have faith in my values being respected as a loyal democrat..but when you don’t get counted when voting and working as a poll watcher for the dem party to protect votes..it just doesn’t compute for me any longer.
But i respect how you feel..
fly
I’m with you. This is a great idea which will strike fear into the DNC. It’s a tool and I’m going to use it.
May 20. Defection Day.
are dems supporting your values? where are the Texas results..i just went to the Texas Secretary of State Election board..there are no results from the 2008 primary..why would that be?
here i will post it all for you what is there…
http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/historical/index.shtml
Election Results
Observer’s Reports for Past ElectionsHistorical Election Results (1992-current)
Early Voting Information
Effective Dates of Constitutional Amendments
Early Voting Totals (1996-current)
Turnout and Voter Registration Figures (1970-current)
Presidential Election Results
Voter Registration Figures 1991 - Present
Voter Registration Figures - County History
November 6, 2007 Constitutional Amendments Election (Ballot Language and link to bills)
November 8, 2005 Constitutional Amendments Election (Ballot Language, Authors, and link to bills)
September 13, 2003 Constitutional Amendment Election (Ballot Language, Authors, and link to bills)
Provisional Ballots Voted/Counted November 2004
2004 General Election Survey
Find Your Incumbent
CNN election board only has 41% reporting of the caucus’s..so why would that be when we were told he got all these delegates in Texas..why are the results still not listed?
I know damn well what the results are here in Fla..so who is protecting your values..these dems shoving this guy down our throat with no real results available? and all the cheating that the DNC has done and is doing and Obama’s team is doing..
The dem party has done nothing for my values..they have stolen my vote and disenfranchised me and my family..so today it is my disenfranchisement..i hope it is not yours next..by the democratic party.. that i too used to believe cared about my values…but today i know otherwise.
fly
Flyarm….As I have commented on repeatedly the State democratic party quit counting results at 40% ……They said there was just too many….and other assorted bull shit….HRC tried to get them to elay the convention….but they refused…40% = new majority math
That’s bullshit. The CNN Election page shows 41% reported. Who the hell calls a close primary such as this with less than half of a large state reporting in? Why would they stop counting if there are SO MANY? Wouldn’t that FAVOR Obama and his minions? Why would he want it stopped and how can he claim ANY delegates from Texas when only 41% are certified? Have they certified ANYTHING in Texas?
Hell, Florida votes ARE certified and they don’t count? WTF?
TEXAS STOPPED COUNTING WITH 40% OF THE CAUSCUS RESULTS REPORTING….CLINTON SLAMMED HIM IN THE PRIMARY SWEEPING 96% OF THE COUNTIES…
CHECK OUT THE MAP….
well how in the hell can Texas tell us how many Delegates Obama or Hillary got in Texas if they stopped counting..and people think the values of dems is to count votes? well that is total bullshit..so it wasn’t just Florida and Michigan who were disenfranchised..it was Texas as well..and we know sparky broke the rulzzzzzzzz in Texas as well as advertising in Fla against the rulzzzzzzzzzz..so where are our democratic values being respected?
how in the f can Omama or Hillary say how many delegates they got from Texas???????
they are not counted and they are not yet certified according to the SOS of Texas..or is something else going on..could Hillary have this going to court? is that the freaking Hurry Sparky is under..wtf is going on in Texas..and anyone who doesn’t think the repigs will use this for the general..i have very nice swampland for you in Florida..alligators included!
This is utter bullshit..who is counting the eggs in the chicken coop???????
this is disgraceful and it is fraud on the American electorate!
fly
I have been a Dem for over 40 years and have put up with some real losers, but not this time. I have now registered as an INDY and to tell the truth it feels quite liberating. I urge everyone to do it and send a message to that idiot Dean and company that they will not hijack our party.
how does one go about changing party? I’m not waiting. I’m getting out of the fecking ungrateful, backstabbing thing NOW! I CAN NOT BELIEVE they are throwing Hillary and the best president we have had since FDR, under the proverbial bus! I am …………. SPEECHLESS!
re-registering as indy won’t work..they won’t give a rats crap about that..we must humiliate the dem party..loud and clear and we must get thousands to do this..across the nation!
we must get this message out loud and clear!
we will not tolerate being disenfranchised by the dem party..over and out!
you can vote for whoever you want in the general..be it as a dem or a republican!
but we must make a strong stand now..or we are all being disenfranchised..you want to know how it feels..well just do nothing and let this little prick steal this election!
Well, FA, he looks silly, doesn’t he?
Just because he declares himself victor doesn’t mean he is…
Like Bush, in Iraq…
Flyarm that is what I was thinking or along the same lines as you. How do we get this message out? I’m ready to tear myself away from this idiot party for good. Set a date and those of us that feel this disenfranchised - let’s do it!
May 20th is D-Day! National Democratic Defection Day!
sounds like a good plan to me! I’m voting straight republican ticket in november if obama’s the nominee and they don’t recognize the fl and mi primaries
It’s called chutspah. And a takeover of the party by Dean,Kennedy,Pelosi and group [Reid,too].
In Europe they quaintly refer to this kind of robbery as a “putsch”. Otherwise also known as a coup d’etat. Or Florida all over again, and again.
They don’t give a crap if we leave the party as they feel they don’t need us. We don’t fit into Obama’s ideas of a Big Tent, and the African Americans are salivating about making this dude a big HERO. OK? It’s not gonna be great. Mount Rushmore awaits.
“That will be an important day,” Obama said. “If at that point we have the majority of pledged delegates, which is possible, then I think we can make a pretty strong claim that we’ve got the most runs and it’s the ninth inning and we’ve won.”
I guess Obama’s not a baseball fan, but somebody ought to tell him that the winner isn’t the side that has the most runs DURING the ninth inning. The winner isn’t declared until all nine innings have been played.
being from a baseball family…i wholeheartedly agree blueasthesky..Obama obviouslydoesn’t know baseball..as i remember it during a playoff series..we lost in the bottom of the 9th one year!
fly
I can’t remember the last time I relished the imminent defeat of a politician….Hmmmm……OH YEAH….WHEN HOWARD DEAN HOWLED….
OBAMA IS DESTINED FOR POLITICAL OBSCURITY….AND MAYBE PRISON…
Nuff said…..Howl…….
When did Dean EVER say that?
I think we’d better wrap our heads around thinking about the unthinkable….PRESIDENT McCAIN.
Obama and his slash and burn “Barack Youth” have destroyed the Democratic Party as we know it.
Well, it’s up to Dean to fix it. Not us. Ask Obama to do the American thing and spend more time with his family. He doesn’t look all that healthy these days anyways. Ask him to ask his minions to rally around Clinton and then we can go after McCain.
Check out what Craig Crawford has to say about Barky passing up WV.. you remember Craig right? He was banished for speaking the truth about Barky.. blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix
Well those states are full o’ CRACKERS….AND WHO NEEDS THEM….ANYHOW
I’m sorry…but how is this going to help him in the general? Forgive me if the diary already mentions this but…how are all the folks who haven’t yet voted (never mind the folks in MI and FL) going to feel about it? It appears, selfish, vain, arrogant, presumptive…like he’s pushing to the head of the line. It’s not going play well in middle America where fair is fair and deals are still sealed with a handshake.
He thinks that if he declares victory and stops campaigning against Hillary that she will go away. He’s trying to force her out of the race. This time, himself, instead of through his surrogates. He’s seriously underestimating Hillary, her strengths and options. As well as her supporters and their reaction.
ahhh he doesn’t give a rats crap..today he was in a high school in Bend Ore. and i noticed something very telling..the camera had the crowd fogged out..now as a retired actress..i know damn well that a special lens has to be used to do that..he was clear as a bell but the background crowd was fogged using a special lens..now why would CNN use that type of lens or whoever filmed it..it was a highschool and they wanted the people in the back ground to look like they were middle class white folks..so why did they obscure them???????..maybe they were not local Bend Ore people????????? maybe they were bussed in????????
So who did he talk to ..kids in the audience..about their prom..so who were the real audience..and why not show the people of Bend Ore their own people on tv?????????
please take note of that..something is vwry fishy here..my hubby’s family is from close to Bend in Calif..i know it is small town america..so if those people weren’t from bend the good folks of Bend would know that wouldn’t they???????
so would that be the reason to use a foggy lens on the people behind Obama??????????
and to give the illusion of Middle class americans in the audience????????
we are being conned folks..and the electorate of this nation is being conned..and you are being sold a lousey piece of merchandise!
fly
You know, by this method of conquer and divide, it almost seems as if they’re using, oh, Hamas, or the Shia as a model for election.
And once they get the office, what, if they even would?
How can anyone BE so stupid?
would seem so …the problem is, they think we are all as stupid as they are..and some are..but not us..we got their number long ago!!
All the stunts in the playbook will not make Barack Obama president once the media reverts from Obama leghumpers to junkyard dogs out for a piece of his ass.
Should Clinton be shoved out of the race, it’ll just give the 527s and the McCain media all that much more time to have at the fraud.
Fun times ahead.
Obama is such a pompous ass. And Jack Tapper just can’t seem to figure out that it is the total of delegates (that be all the delegates Jack - including automatics, which can switch Jack, Jack, Jerk, Jack) which will decide the nominee.
I think when Obama has the “nomination taken from him”
(oh sob, bewail, moan)
the biggest problem the country will have is consoling the 14 year old bed-wetting contingency that just “have their hearts” set on him. My advice to parents: let the kids stay up late and watch Laurel and Hardy movies, or re-runs of American Idol. Make the poor darlings some mac-and-cheese or take them to Mickey-Ds.
As for the terror that awaits us all with “recreate
68″ (and for the life of me, I can never remember that it’s re-create 68 and not recreate–as in have fun, bring a football and a six-pack)–as for that
hideous spectre from which we must all cower and capitulate– I say “ha!” A this point, how many working class cops do you think aren’t chaffing at the bit to be able to beat the fuck out of a bunch of spoiled, obnoxious, violence- threatening
pampered rich college kids–who instead of having to get jobs to work, have the time to try and take America’s democracy away from her. Oh please, we are going to have to have workshops for the cops to get them to calm down again after they use the college kids for push brooms.
Enough tooling around DNC. Nominate Clinton and let’s get on with winning the white house (and keeping our congressional and down-ticket positions), and let’s go onto the business of running our country. Obama’s 15 minutes of fame is over– even on the west coast, by now.
I hear that on May 25, Obama will make his first State of the Union Speech. On May 28, he will declare his first term as President a complete success. On May 29, he will announce plans to seek a second term, which he believes he can complete by the middle of June.
Springfield was an interesting choice of location for his announcement speech, one designed to allow Obama to beef up his resume a tad by invoking his work as a state senator. …
Wasn’t he chair of the Senate Committee on Health and Human Services. Didn’t he help reduce the number of members on the Health Facilities Board from 15 to 9, allowing the “schemers” to gain control?
Didn’t he also work to create the minority program to direct pension funds, but left right before s*** hit fan and instead declared himself ready to be president?
I dunno. Maybe he should run from his record instead of on it.
WHATTTTTTTT… they guy has no record in Illinois..he purged all those records…so he has no records!!!!!!!!!..who the f does this guy think he is fooling???????????
No Quarter: Where bad taste, bad losers, and bad haircuts abound.
That’s the best ya got? When your candidate has nothing to offer, I guess, you have to resort to Ad Hominem attacks. You do know that they are the last resort of a failed argument, right? Or do they no longer teach critical thinking in high school?
That was rather presumptuous of you Ms Strawberrybitch. I have no candidate; I just abhor juvenile tantrums thrown by middle-aged hypocrites (and CIA butchers).
You don’t know WHAT you abhor. You simply read off the script that they hand you. Type away, big guy. You fool no one.
You just made fun of someone’s hair cut and you accuse Larry and Susan of being juvenile? OY. You’re out of your league here, Sparky. You really don’t want to go up against Larry. Speaking of butchers, Obama is close friends with a man who blew up innocent men and women during the ’60’s. Ayers raised money for Obama at a fancy dinner party at Ayers house. How do you feel about that butcher? Or you one those fake liberals who thinks violence is OK for their cause but not others?
Again your presumption reveals your imbecility.
If the truth bit you in the ass you’d just think you had fleas. “imbecility”??? Your flea collar is a little too tight, you Fucking buffoon.
And having all three traits yourself, you must be an expert.
PROVE IT!
Other than that, did ya see the lakers game, yesterday?
Troll, you have no fucking clue how Obama is being gamed, and for what.
requiem…
What do you think about starting the MAY 20th D-Day movement. See posts above and below.
If we decide it’s a go, we don’t have much time to implement this. We need to work quickly and hit BOTH parties where it really hurts.
Watch yourself, Reggie. I’m a signature away from becoming a member of the Republican family. You know what they say…you can choose your friends but you can’t choose your family. Aren’t you going to give me a big, loving welcome?
Hey Reggie…..Come up with something more original. Fuckin TROLL!
“Hey Reggie…..Come up with something more original.”
Sez you. Ha! Snot gobbler.
Sorry about the Lingo… Douch Bags bring out the worst in me
Roflol!!
ahhh red dragon..you must be from my neck of the woods using douche bags…my fav words!!and have been my entire lifetime!! lmao………
My hubby just cringes…lmao!
This is damned smart politics.
By taking his victory lap in Congress and then strutting around the country as the self-proclaimed nominee, he makes it much harder for Clinton to persuade the superedelegates (as well as Obama’s pledged delegates) to do what Truman did to Kefauver in 1952. All style and no substance, as usual.
Expectations amongst his supporters will be so high that a turnaround will lead to a meltdown.
Except for the people would make his presidency work, or fail, I mean, the guy still needs intelligence, he looks like a fucking loon, purposely defying the people, and the Constitution.
Do you understand?
who*
sorry.
He doesn’t care. He will worry about capturing the angry white male (and now female) vote later.
Right now the poison pill strategy is his best defense against superdelegate defection in the nomination fight.
Think of it as leverage in a hostile takeover.
He is determined to run for President and will parlay a 10% lead into the nomination.
Once he has the nomination secured he will work the general election problem of demographics using the assets of the entire national party apparatus which, by then, will be at his beck and call.
It’s sort of like Ivan Boesky liquidating the assets of a company to defray the cost of raiding it.
This is about a man who despite the leveraged buyout, can’t run the company.
I shudder whenever I hear any politician, usually Republican, say that the government should be run like a business.
All of the firms I worked for in the 20 years before I went out on my own, save one, collapsed. This includes 130 year old New England firms and Silicon Valley startups. I have seen bigger fuckwits in business than I have ever observed in government. Even Bush.
There is an upside to running a government like a business. If you ever run low on funds you can lay off your citizens and outsource them.
Hostile takeover is an analogy not a metaphor.
The election is not the objective; the objective is to fracture the party.
More Rove than Raddleax (Axelrod).
IMO.
Pendants hang
Pedants should
Notwithstanding, when “like” is used the construction is a simile.
Yep..Thats the Gamers Game..
Looks Like Obamas Comrads have decided to Stage thier “KRYSTAL NACHT “Moment…
So Far, AxelRove believes he can Just Package His ..OBAMA BABY..and sell it to the Public with
The AUDACITY to HOPE..that the American people will Believe that the OBAMA BABY doesn’t have Dirty Diapers..(but its really full of Shit)
The baby has Flaws, sometimes Its Gives the Middle Finger..It Sucks on Ice Cubes, and When you squeeze it..It Talks..
“She’s a typical White Woman..”
“God damn..God damn…God damn”
“The USKKK of A..”
“Give me Money Honey”
” Slumming with Rezko”
“Billy Ayers Bomma Buddy..”
Anyone familiar with this DOLL may know of more Songs it Sings…
YO…How To…
Do the COUP
Done to “THE CHICKEN DANCE’…
The funky chicken actually, he has one leg, looks perpetually confused and wears a baby blue beret.
And he has this whisper problem, coupled with an inability to grasp abstracts.
Unfortunately, he’s a man sized chicken, and the size of the chicken poop is enormous.
The neighbors are complaining…
Yo…He is going to teach us all to be Chicken Farmers ..so we can be self sustaining…and make Fertilizer and Methanol..( Bio Fuel) out of the Chicken Poop…
The Plan has a Uh…Uh…Uh..Uh…Plan..
End “Rich White people Power”..give it to the Peasants…
Oh..He didn’t hear that Part..
Squeeze BABY BAMMA see what He says next…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tOxNRSdB7A
THAT was perfect. Jackie said it better than I’ve heard anyone out there in MEDIA land LAY IT ALL OUT!
ALL his points. Exactly! He needs to broadcast more widely. Although I think MOST people GET it by now.
Oregon should be interesting
SD too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6_4u5c74a8
GREAT PICTURE…
But they miss the significance, of course.
Funny, Clinton had that margin because Obama cheated, but Axelrod pretends it’s real.
I know about wanting to create reality, and all, but is that smart, Dave?
If you fail, Obama will look loonier than Cheney.
They’re missing one major key element in “creating reality”. It has to be something believable to catapult that which is held in faith over into the realm of reality. Obviously it’s not believable or this thing would have been wrapped up a long time ago.
A strong foundation, which most of us call “good, ethical decisions.”
They think they can cheat, using terrorist methods really, shortcuts. They’re going to intimidate Clinton?
Oh, brother.
I swear, sometimes I look at Obama, and I think I’m seeing one of those mechanical dummies at Disneyland, he looks so programmed..
He’s doing this because he knows it must be done before Puerto Rico pushes her over the top in popular vote.
Remember this and protest to the high hills.
Time for you Democrats to change your registration to Independent, and write the DNC and let them know there will be no votes or money forthcoming.
Have you ever seen such arrogance? FDR, LBJ and JFK - not to mention Harry Truman-would be so ashamed of this man.
FDR…LBJ…JFK….Truman…WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT OBAMA IS NOT A DEMOCRAT….They would be ashamed of the Party Leadership….
And Eisenhower would be devasted by what the republicans have become…
Dont forget, Axelrove uses Rove’s methods, Ken Melman thought he was a star, and Cheney can’t win those wars, leading to the breakdown of the business community who bought them.
How about J EDGAR HOOVER ….??
Oh..thats “WRIGHT.”.The Bureau can’t “PROFILE “anymore..All those Files went out the door with the Frank Church..
And the Patriot Act is only for Little Old Ladys in Wheel Chairs…
The terrorists can Teach at Our Universitys and Manage grat Money..
well he is doing it before the R&B vote on May 31st..Hillary supposedly has alot of people on that board..she very well may get our votes in Fla and Mi and that will give her a huge boost in delegates and popular vote totals!
this is more con game..they are putting the fog lens on this as well..makes the one in the picture look softer and nicer you know..its used on woemn all the time by Hollywood camera men…
fly
Obama’s tactics guarantee that he will never have a mandate to govern the country effectively. He has so little legitimate goodwill built up based on tangible achievement, that the first crisis of his (potential) presidency will deflate his image like a balloon. He has no core Democratic support to prop him up. His “this election stuff sure is more fun than video games” supporters will find new titillations, and he’ll be as popular as Bush is now by his second year. He’ll spend the rest of the term calling his critics racists.
Here is another Rep site I just found loaded for bear…Look out Barky, they’s coming for ya! http://www.humanevents.com/offers/offer.php?id=bho101
We can only hope they’re not republicans, we want to WIN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUeXkXBU5Qc
That woman should be charged. Is it a felony?
reprehensible and that’s been happening all around the country.
At http://www.talkleft.com/...
The New York Times (tomorrow’s paper, available now) has a 7 page profile on how Barack Obama forged coalitions in Illinois:
The secret of his transformation — which has brought him to the brink of claiming the Democratic presidential nomination — can be described as the politics of maximum unity: He moved from his leftist Hyde Park base to more centrist circles; he forged early alliances with the good-government reform crowd only to be later embraced by the city’s all-powerful Democratic bosses; he railed against pork-barrel politics but engaged in it when needed; and he empathized with the views of his Palestinian friends before adroitly courting the city’s politically potent Jewish community.
To broaden his appeal to African-Americans, Mr. Obama had to assiduously court older black leaders entrenched in Chicago’s ward politics before selling himself as a young, multicultural bridge to the wider political world.
And my goodness, he’s perfect the business crowd, the perfect man to protect their interests, long term, liek Bush, like Cheney, like Mccain.
He’s a moron.
OMG ROFL! Our new “mission accomplished” flyboy!
The NYT finally is waking from their slumber.
It’s gonna be open season on Barky. I want to hear him WHINE about this.
As the OJay’s once said..
.” They smile in your face all the time wanna take your place….the backstabbers”…LMAO
FOX has just announced that Obama has taken the lead over Hillary in super delegates by 4. He got two from the Virgin Islands today, they have been running that news over and over now.
Kool aid was on sale at target this week.
Arent they clever?
The New York Times (tomorrow’s paper, available now) has a 7 page profile on how Barack Obama forged coalitions in Illinois:
The secret of his transformation — which has brought him to the brink of claiming the Democratic presidential nomination — can be described as the politics of maximum unity: He moved from his leftist Hyde Park base to more centrist circles; he forged early alliances with the good-government reform crowd only to be later embraced by the city’s all-powerful Democratic bosses; he railed against pork-barrel politics but engaged in it when needed; and he empathized with the views of his Palestinian friends before adroitly courting the city’s politically potent Jewish community.
To broaden his appeal to African-Americans, Mr. Obama had to assiduously court older black leaders entrenched in Chicago’s ward politics before selling himself as a young, multicultural bridge to the wider political world.
And my goodness, he’s perfect for the business crowd, the perfect man to protect their interests, long term, like Bush, like Cheney, like Mccain.
He’s a moron.
If someone purposely set out to destroy the business community, they wouldn’t have done better…
This is why it’s so hard to figure out where Obama really stands on issues, from crime issues (here and here) to gun rights. He changes, depending on his audience and which voters he needs to appease or win over at the time. As I often write, where’s Obama? Here, there and everywhere.
More from the Times:
Others see his deft movements as a politician shifting positions and alliances for strategic advantage, leaving some disappointed and baffled about where he really stands.
“He has a pattern of forming relationships with various communities and as he takes his next step up, kind of distancing himself from them and then positioning himself as the bridge,” said Ali Abunimah, a Palestinian-American author and co-founder of the online publication Electronic Intifada, who became acquainted with Mr. Obama in Chicago.
Exactly. He dumped his Palestinian friends like Rashid Khalidi when he decided to go after the Jewish vote. (See here, here and here.) If I were a Palestinian, I’d be upset too. If I were a strong Israel supporter, I’d be nervous. See the Times article on pages 5 and 6, about how once he got introduced to Chicago’s billionaire Crown family and sought its campaign contributions, he moved towards supporting Israel. Khalidi now says:
Mr. Khalidi, who now teaches at Columbia University, said, “I’m unhappy about the positions he’s taken, but I can’t say I’m terribly disappointed.” He added: “People think he’s a saint. He’s not. He’s a politician.
Then there’s his constant refrain about how things he believes may not worth expending the political capital on to change: like medical marijuana and mandatory minimums.
Back to the Times’ article:
Even moments that supporters see as his boldest are tempered by his political caution. The forceful speech he delivered in 2002 against the impending Iraq invasion — a speech that has helped define him on the national stage — was threaded with an unusual mantra for a 1960s style antiwar rally: “I’m not opposed to all wars.” It was a refrain Mr. Obama had tested on his political advisers, and it was a display of his ability to speak to the audience before him while keeping in mind the broader audience to come.
Another group disappointed in Obama’s shifting stances:
On the campaign trail, Mr. Obama hewed closely to liberal orthodoxy, positions that have become controversial in the presidential race. A candidate questionnaire from one liberal group, for instance, detailed his views on hot-button issues like the death penalty (opposed) and a ban on handguns (in favor).
Today, Mr. Obama espouses more centrist views and says a campaign aide had incorrectly characterized his views on those issues — a shift that does not sit well with some in the group, the Independent Voters of Illinois Independent Precinct Organization.
“We certainly thought those were his positions,” said David Igasaki, the group’s state chairman, who noted Mr. Obama had also interviewed with the group. “We understand that people change their views. But it sort of bothers me that he doesn’t acknowledge that. He tries to say that was never his view.”
Obama against the death penalty? Hardly. He’s against executing the innocent. Who isn’t? There’s something for everyone in this article. It covers Ayers, Rezko, Mayor Daley and lots more. I’ll probably be coming back to it later.
Khalidi bundled 50k for barry. He’s alive and well in his camp.
Barry lies, he betrays his country, he’ll betray anyone and anything around him.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is in a fantasy.
Gee where have we heard THAT before? Gun control? Single Pay health insurance?
The whole story can be found athttp://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/10/163442/381
Since he has the greater number of supers now well in goes my form next week I will be registering as a new republican.
well, you might want to get rid of the old ones first, as they’re nothing more than high priced democrats.
Obama is Abraham Lincoln? But I thought he was JFK! No wait..RFK!……No…..MLK! FDR! Truman!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLw0yS_abNM
You know everytime I look at BO…he’s just so tired and listless. He’s just boring…he makes me feel sad and tired and I don’t want to feel sad and tired.
Then I go over to Hillary’s web site and see all of the events she and Bill and Chelsea are doing. All of the thought she’s put into her positions and policies. The way she can speak on practically any subject no matter how localized or arcane. Just working their hearts out, you know? They inspire me to feel energetic and enthusiastic. I just contributed some more! And the beautiful state of West Virginia votes on Tuesday and Obama can’t stop it.
Everybody should make a stop by her web site today — they are NOT quitting. Unlike the sad and tired Obama (who just wants to sleep)….she just keeps on going. Moms have A LOT of energy — someone needs to tell BO.
hmm interesting piece about st Obama and Chicago politics
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-kass_bd11may11,0,2398464.column Obama magically unstained by grime of Chicago Way
I’m thinking Obama shares many of GW Bush’s traits, including DYSLEXIA.
For a man who’s all about the DELEGATE MATH, Obama can’t keep numbers straight to save his life. This is no insignificant matter especially when it comes to recounting death tolls and the number of states in the union.
I’m particularly troubled by his curious lack of mindfulness when it comes to the dead: i.e. his previous confusion as to how many people died in the Kansas tornado of May, 2007 (he said 10,000 vs. 12); his confusion as to whether 100k or 100 million people have died in the Myanmar cyclone; his confusion in his NC victory speech, waxing patriotic about “the flag draped over my [pause] father’s coffin”, (it was his grandfather’s coffin).
If Obama actually has a cognitive problem of some kind, I’d rather know about it now. Gail Sheehy forewarned about W’s dyslexia in Vanity Fair in October, 2000; but he became POTUS before the problem was widely identified.
[Cross-posted in similar form at TL]
At the very least, a critical thinker can understand basic abstracts, say, even basic written abstracts, the basic poem.
And then the universities under Reagan became trade schools, turning out morons who can ace the SAT, but who can’t understand or analyze, conceptualize, a basic poem, less dyslexic, more illiterate.
If they can’t understand even those abstracts, they can’t understand why this country does the things it does.
I think the war in Iraq, given time and smart people is winnable, if our goal is to establish middle east democracy.
It WILL NOT be through added troops, period.
You could give a proof to Clinton and she’d get it, Obama, and Cheney, can’t, just not smart enough.
Even the basic premise of BAITING an enemy into war is beyond them, baiting them, and then draining them, even with the Example of the USSR.
Just too dumb.
They function as if they have unlimited resources, while the whole thing is falling apart around them, their cockamamie theories out the door.
The war, say, they’ve lost, but they cant admit it, because their egos are too fragile, and they’re too stupid to examine the cause and effect.
Why no hearings, shouldn’t they WANT to know why it’s not functioning effectively?
Of course, why would a sloppy stupid cheater examine his failure?
he hires more PR, or takes the Saudis up on that apartment they offered him, in case he needs a place to hide, when the law comes for him….
he can room with Osama, though, they use the same bank, anyway…
The other point being this has a strong psychological component also, not tom Clancy, because that’s for people who can’ critically think, like a DUMB republican troll, but real psy ops , the kind you learn about from your Berkeley professor, say.
But while an astute student understands this very real component, a DUMB heather wannabe thinks Tom Clancy.
My point being a President is subject to very real psychological war, and if he’s not smart enough to understand himself, or the game, the country ends up like it has under the republicans, who just can’t accept they’re not the best, and were and ARE being trolled, and we end up with a Bush, and Cheney, and even Mccain and Obama…
All of this is to protect business with that group, and business is being destroyed, through the war, it cannot sustain…
Because we have idiots in Washington, incapable of admitting or understanding HOW they are being trolled, thinking a lil projection is substitute for thought, phds who should know better, trying to prove a negative.
My goodness, I learned this in grade school.
He’s an academic. Riddled in theory, short on Practice. Let’s face it, the guy has a resume the size of a postage stamp. Even George Bush had more going for him, even though everything he touched turned to crap.
And something STILL thinks about that, his academics, I know it.
stinks, sorry, like a skunk…
Yep. Bad case of BO. BWAHAHAHA!
Seriously, I agree with you, requiem. Where are all of his college classmates? I find it puzzling that a dude with such “promise” doesn’t seem to have much of a “footprint” academically OR socially. Hmmmmm…
I just think he’s stupid, to be honest with you. In a Dan Quayle kind of way.
If Obama declares himself as the nominee w/o the exact no. of delegates,all Hillary supporters should be in the street honking in support of Hillary and the death of the democratic party.
MAY 20th is D-Day!!! National Democratic DEFECTION Day!
“Even moments that supporters see as his boldest are tempered by his political caution.”
He’s been planning to run for president for a very long time. He will stick to the approach of caution until he achieves that goal.
If he does become POTUS, will the real Barack Obama then stand up? Who will that be? And what is in store for us?
People are really going to have to answer these questions. Do we cast a vote for someone we really have no idea who he is and what he is capable of???
I always knew George W. Bush was capable of the things he did. That’s why I was so upset when Gore didn’t challenge the results. Trughtfully, were really surprised about W?
Too many doubts about Obama. Too, too scary.
He’s Deval Patrick.
That’s:
Truthfully, were we really surprised about W?
Ehemmm……Not in Texas…..But then we tried to warn you guys…( sigh )
Hell I didn’t vote for him. I even held my nose and voted for Kerry. And believe me, I was tempted to stay home.
I meant you guys in the overall national sense….The DNC threw Gore under the bus….Kerry was just a putz….sigh…..
And Donna Brazile was Gore’s campaign manager - didn’t do much for his career but seems to have launched hers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaO7N-JujU&feature=related
ShortTermer Says:
May 10th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Okay, just purchased a website to be built for our unofficial third party change. It is PARTYFORCHANGE.ORG
Is there anyone here who could build the site; it will have blog and photo filer?
Please email me at cgreer10@cfl.rr.com
THIRD PARTY,
WITH OR WITHOUT HILLARY CLINTON…
WE SHOULD DO IT, BECAUSE, I THINK PEOPLE WILL FLOCK TO IT, AND THIS GENERAL E, WE COULD DO WRITE IN IF HILLARY WONT PUT HER NAME IN…
anyway, it would not only be the most exciting thing since those people got to throw their tea in the bay, to protest taxes.
have the masses not been looking for ‘CHANGE’?
have they not been looking for ‘hopium’?
have they not been saying washington done different?
have they not said new kind of politics?
WELL, THIS WOULD BE REAL CHANGE YOU COULD BELIEVE IN..
THIRD PARTY- THIRD PARTY- THIRD PARTY !!!!!!
IMO, we don’t hold any leverage as a third party. We CAN scare the crap out of the Dems and watch the Repubs heads explode all with the simple swipe of the pen if we register Repub. It takes them out of the “vote stealing” business. They won’t know how many votes to steal. Hell, they won’t know who’s who in the zoo.
As far as the current Dem leadership goes, they won’t know WTF hit them. Watch how quickly the SD’s defect back to Hillary.
I’m in..
Just in!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoWl2-WWFl8
Thanks for the lnk….Mel….He certainly is HEDGING ON THAT ONE AINT’ HE….what a putz…..Meeeeeeechelle must be very angryyy….chuckle….
GUYS AND GIRLS
PLS DO NOT WASTE TIME ,,BLOGGING
AND ARGUING WITH STUPID TROLLS
WE NEED TO WIN
WE MUST WIN
WE NEED TO DONATE
WE NED TO MAKE CALLS
PLS ,,,MAKE CALLS ,,,,,DON,T FEEL GUILTY LATER ON ,,,THUNKING WHAT IF THIS,,WHAT IF THAT ,,
do it now
take action
don,t just talk the talk
but walk the walk ,,,,
For what it is worth, I was at the HP reading various Obamabots making suggestions about possible running mates for the “Golden Boy”. It was amazing how much mass stupidity that I found there. One person commented that John Edwards would be a bad choice because he didn’t do Al Gore much good. Yeah, I know–what planet doest that person live on who actually believes that John Edwards had ANYTHING to do with Al Gore’s candidacy? And once again, people were blathering about Obama’s anti-war speech in 2002 and what a “risk” he made since he was running for the U.S. Senate at the time. When I pointed out that Obama did not run for the U.S. Senate until 2004, I was called a “do-do” and informed that Obama was running in the primary in 2002. Yeah, right! What revisionist history!
While I honestly cannot see how Hillary gets the nomination at this point–even WITH Florida and Michigan–it is hard for me to see how Obama is able to win in the general election with all the “baggage” that he is carrying. Unlike others here, I honestly cannot support McBush, but it is becoming increasingly hard for me to fathom supporting Obama either. He really is a disaster!
Some of us feel this is a national security issue, given Obama’s actions, and treat it as such.
There is no compromise, when someone betrays his country.
Traitors aren’t known to be bright.
While I personally do not care for Mr. Obama, I am unaware of anything that he has done to betray his country. I agree that his associations with Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Jeremiah Wright, James Meeks, etc. are problematic and are some of the reasons that I have a hard time supporting the man. But I really find it hard to call Obama a “traitor”. What has he done to deserve this label? Now, mind you, I am a Clinton supporter so I am not asking this to be obnoxious. I just cannot see how you reach this conclusion.
Frankly, the MOST that I will EVER consider doing for the November election, if Obama becomes the nominee, is perhaps voting for Obama. But I am not sure that I will be able to do that either. I’ve written in people before so this would not be “new”–just something different from the last 5 presidential elections.
I agree wholeheartedly…electing Obama as president is a major threat to our national security. what makes me so sad is the latte liberals and ignorant youth are so gullible.
Obama defeats Truman!!
“MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”….!!
I’d love a t-shirt with that slogan on it! I wonder how Obamarhoids would understand it? My guess….ZERO.
I just told my 15 year old son, who is an Obama supporter, that I will re-register as a Republican on May 20 to show my total disgust with the Democratic Party and their support of Barack Obama. I have been a Democrat my entire life, even after becoming a born-again Christian in 2000. I have defended the Democratic Party with my Republican friends at church, but I will never support Obama under any circumstances. He has used race-baiting since NH (Bradley Effect) and in the run-up to SC. I cannot support the Democratic Party which has rejected the best Presidential candidate in years, Hillary Clinton, in favor of the inexperienced, unpatriotic, race-bating Obama. If the Democratic Party wants to lose in November, they can go ahead and nominate Obama. His connections with Ayers, Wright, Rezko and so many others will be his undoing. His nomination will destroy the Democratic Party for decades. Maybe his 18 year old supporters will hang in there, waiting for Hope and Change for those decades, but if Hillary is not the nominee, I am out.
I think that the Democratic Party needs to understand that Obama has been the most divisive candidate in decades. He is destroying the Democratic Party. Hillary needs to hang in there. I remain convinced that Obama will implode before November.
The stress of this campaign is killing me, but cannot imagine how Hillary keeps going. She is a marvel and I hope she understands how much we all respect and admire her strength. I still think that she can pu8ll this off. Imagine if Obama had been vetted by the media and if Hillary had not been treated with such disrespect since NH. What a different situation we would have today.
I have called and canvassed for Hillary. I have donated more than I can afford. I pray for her and our country every day. We can’t give up yet.
I agree.
my 15 year old son, who is an Obama supporter,
Have you asked him how he supports a person that will plead ignorance when his constituents are freezing?
And that hope won’t put food on the table?
I am sure he is a very bright young man and will get it.
Yes, I believe we need a third party…. we need Sen Clinton to run as Independent.
If Obama is the candidate, I won’t second guess myself for a second or waste my vote by not giving it to McCain.
I have never voted Republican, and if you had told me back in 2004 that I would even consider voting Republican in 2008, I would have probably laughed.
But the way that the DNC has treated Hillary, the way that the media has treated her, the way that Obama has treated her…all sexist pigs…there is not other choice for me.
Sexism isn’t getting a free pass from me nor is Obama getting a free pass from me.
I will devote every ounce of my heart to getting McCain elected.
Brandy, that’s exactly what they want you to do.
Either way–with McCain or with Obama–they win.
Don’t fall for it!
All of you, go Indy if you must, but write in Hillary and vote Dem downticket.
Don’t go Republican, and whatever you do, do NOT vote McCain.
This whole Dem. primary season is beyond logic and reason.
It would follow that after selecting/electing such an incompetent and dangerous fool as GWB..that Democrats would have placed great importance in someone with knowledge and proven gravitas to nominate. But the complete opposite has been occurring. Instead a vociferous viral definable group has chosen the very opposite of what is logical and recognizable as being reason.
They have been swept up with a fever that can only be described as a cult of personality worship. They have propped up someone with such little experience and issues compass as could possibly have be visualized in the worst of nightmares. They have fell victim to the most ephemeral and gullible rhetorical and dangerous 1984 style of demagoguery.
In their affected states, they ignore facts and willingly rationalize and justify the unjustifiable. They enthusiastically regurgitate the very vile vitriol that the Republican attack machine launched against the Clintons throughout the 90s..all without conscience or pause. They have both belittled and misrepresented the accomplishments of the Clinton Presidency. They have engaged in the most despicable, repulsive and adolescent of misogynous epithets imaginable….again without conscience or pause. They launch a perverted argument that goes against the very tenets of our democracy, the right to vote, to justify the false validation of their candidate. They have been engaging in projecting their own pre-assumptions and pre-conceived ideas unto a blank slate/mirage..re-inventing their subject even against known empirical reality. In what can only be described as being in an altered state, they are incapable of understanding or comprehending the obviousness of their dangerous and pathetic anti-democratic exercise. Sadly, this is not new in world history…as it is not new to our own history. Clearly what is inferred by the latter is that we have overcome many…yet the lesson is not yet learnt by THE many.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment LilRod; you are –sadly– absolutely correct; it is sickening to
witness after the last 8 years. The people currently at the helm in the DNC deserve nothing but contempt.
Should they go ahead with this charade they will deserve to lose and will hope they do. Shame on them for their cynicism, their lack of integrity and their
willingness to destroy so much for so little.
They are making a very expensive mistake and it will be us the ones who will pay for it: this is hard to forgive.
Yo Andy…Found any New Wine..??
much of the problem is what you said - misogyny. reprehensible sexist, chauvinstic behavior from the press, from Dean, from numerous good ole boys still in power. they just can’t stand reporting to a woman, especially someone as skilled as Hillary.
Why are some of these idiot women supporting BO? I think I answered my own question. they’re idiots. Claire McCaskille is my congresswoman. She’s the biggest ditz, whom I will never, ever vote for again.
LilRod…That was worth Chewing on..Thanks…
you are right..I think alot of people get the sense that there is really something kind of Diabloical going on…and All is not well in the “SHIRE”…
obama is trying to create a perception with this, the MI & FL delegations will more than likely be reinstated on May 31, and then the delegates needed to win jack up to 2209, and of course he and his supporters and the msm will try and claim they are changing the rules and get everyone all riled up as they have with changing the role of the SD. This is a con job from hell as it has been throughout this election.
My state (VA) doesn’t even have party registration. Anyone know how many other states don’t? I would love to tear something up and send it to the DNC but what? I do like the Green Party, too.
I just checked the state election site for Oklahoma and you can’t change after June 1 until Aug 31. Other states probably have similar rules. You can download form to change and send it in by June 1 though. Only one super delegate is for Hillary in my state yet she won 55% and Bo only got 33%. I have emailed everyone I can find. This is a DNC conspiracy I promise you. Our spineless Governor is doing what he is told.
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DISSENT!!
Fight against all that is un-democratic in our Party.
Either our Party is worth saving or we must move on.
This is the VERY difficult decision we will all have to make in the coming months
BO declaring is a bunch of BS - it means nothing, just like the MSM’s posturing. We have to bide our time, working all the while to get Hillary the nomination.
Remember: Only 2209 delegates is legit!
brandy, I’m with you. I’ve already informed my Republican friends–much to their amazement–that I will be voting McCain in November. One of them said, “Hey, Obama really can unify people–unify them in hatred of him!”
And I don’t think voting for a Green or third-party candidate is good enough. To defeat Obama, people have to vote McCain. So I plan to not only vote for his old crazy ass, I plan to donate and canvass and if necessary wear a McCain bumper sticker plastered across my ass.
I say this jokingly, but it’s heartbreaking to me. My whole sense of self has always been as a yella-dog Democrat; I’ve voted for D’s that I thought were crazy or criminal or inadequate because I carry that donkey like a tattoo on my soul.
But in truth, Obama is no Democrat. I will still, always, vote downticket Dems, but I will not ever ever ever vote “O.”
My state is almost certain to go blue so it won’t make that much difference
I still wonder how DEM “Elites” and Blacks have allowed the media and the rich powers that be to pick a candidate that they so foolishly have not examined. The media has done to Clinton the same thing they did to Gore. It is classic. It has happened for 35 years. And the people still fall for it. The MSM tells Gore he has to quite fighting the Florida recount (before he might win) “for the good ” of the party and the country. Remember that BS. Same with Kerry. And now same with Hillary. And do you think the MSM all of a sudden loves a “liberal” amateur with “progressive ideas”? How dumb do you have to be to believe that! What is the one thing we KNOW! They say the opposite of what is true. Time and again. Republicans for Obama!!!! god, what fool would believe that for a minute. What is the only ways a Republican could possibly win? 1. Destroy the best candidate. 2. Destroy the next best candidate. 3. Give money and support to a faux Democrat and rig the system. 4. Either trash the eventual nominee or worse than that, have that Dem in their clutches. Either by ideology or blackmail. Oh, Karl Rove and those creeps would never do that, would they? My answer is , if they could, they would and they did. Obama is corrupt, a fraud, and a set up. It is so clear it is laughable. The only questions are just how far the set up extends. Is Obama in on it or are his handlers playing him like they did George Bush? They will soon own both horses in the race. And we know it and that is why we are so outraged and can’t believe people can’t see this. we know there are loads of people who are paid not to see this, but there are many who just refuse to see or believe it. It is astonishing. It is probably too late, but there is still a chance. I want to ad a note of caution to the Larry Sinclair story. It smells like a Karl Rove set up like the fake (but True) National Guard letter. I am sure the Sinclair story is true, but I have a sneaking suspicion the Rove people have some way to discredit Sinclair and therefore they discredit the whole thing as a smear. It has worked before. Best to find other evidence not linked to Sinclair. It is classic Rove…and Axelrove. I just know Rove had people bankroll Obama’s campaign early on. The GOP had less money because they were funneling it to Obama. They didn’t need to spend much on their campaigns, the real campaign was to get Obama nominated. Now, it doesn’t matter which wins. McCain or Obama. Same old corruption. And I personally believe the GOP and the powers that be want Obama. He will be the fall guy and will be better equipped to pull the wool over the eyes of the Dems. There will be no resistance to the raping of the country by the monied interests since the Dems will be fearful of resisting a “liberal black man”. It will be like taking candy from a baby.
You’re absolutely right, Alibe, and look how many have fallen for it and are planning to vote for McCain as a “protest.”
Rise, Hillary, Rise!
Maybe these defections to McCain will be a wake-up call to the DNC and Obama about what would happen if Obama REALLY got the nomination.
Bots, after this stunt, the ONLY way we are going to get ‘unified’ and win in November is under Hillary.
Can’t we all make nice and get along?
Not a chance.
with signs saying “mission accomplished” and with this picture of him just like georgie boy.
It is the mark of a WEAK man that he declares “victory” before its over.
….especially since it’s a long way to August. Time can be a good thing or it can be a terrible thing.
mabe my other coment will show up sooner or later. it said it was there but i cant see it[invisible] , he shoulnt declar victory yet, hope this gos thought
[...] Obama to Declare “Victory” on May 20? (by SusanUnPC at No Quarter) We already know that Obama has the outsized ego and self-absorbed obsession with winning equaled only by that of George W. Bush. We know that he fancies himself the second coming of Abraham Lincoln. But must we endure the same imagery? [...]
Oh, is THAT what Obama claims he’s won? “Majority of pledged elected delegates”?
The majority needed to win the nomination is the majority of ALL delegates, including the 800 superdelegates. Ie 2025 or 2209, depending on whether Florida and Michigan’s delegates are included.
What bloody nonsense!
Well no sense of paying attention to any of that. We are going to spot Barry some delegates. That’s right. They want all the votes in Michigan that weren’t Hillary’s. Not just the uncommitted. The votes cast for other candidates that were in the race. Kind of like Affirmative Action.
It’s a long way to August when they SDs actually VOTE. I do hope Barry doesn’t have any skeletons that might fall out of the closet don’t you?