Racism Doesn’t Go Just One Way [UPDATE]
By SusanUnPC on May 12, 2008 at 9:48 AM in Barack Obama, Kentucky, Obamedia, Typical white person, West Virginia
UPDATE: We’re with you, Dalton Hatfield, all of 11 years old, of Williamson, West Virginia. We are WITH you!
When Hatfield presented former President Bill Clinton with a check for $440 after Friday’s rally at the Williamson Fire Station, the man who was once the leader of the free world seemed to nearly come to tears.
“You sold your bike to get this?” Clinton asked the McAndrews, Ky. native.
The reply was “yes” and a whole lot more. … Read all.
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Unlike the Obama ostriches — in hiding from the West Virginia vote — Hillary Clinton, her campaign, and her volunteers are flooding West Virginia in anticipation of its Tuesday primary.
Barack chooses to IGNORE an estimated 1,816,856 residents, perhaps because only 3.49% of the population is black. And perhaps he thinks these kinds of voters are hopelessly ignorant and incapable of voting for him.
The Obamedia joins in — and ALWAYS (isn’t it amazing?) highlights some white voter who expresses views that the punditry and latte elite class can point at and mock. Here’s the latest from the Financial Times — these are paragraphs one and two of the FT’s top story today, “W Virginia keeps distance from Obama”:
Like most people in Mingo County, West Virginia, Leonard Simpson is a lifelong Democrat. But given a choice between Barack Obama and John McCain in November, the 67-year-old retired coalminer would vote Republican.
“I heard that Obama is a Muslim and his wife’s an atheist,” said Mr Simpson, drawing on a cigarette outside the fire station in Williamson, a coalmining town of 3,400 people surrounded by lush wooded hillsides.
WHAT A PATHETIC, PREJUDICED IGNORAMUS! WHAT A SMALL-TOWN HICK HE MUST BE!
The reporters no doubt chuckle about the millions of e-mails being circulated among white Christians throughout this nation — and I do mean MILLIONS of e-mails — that raise numerous questions about Obama’s true allegiances. Some of the e-mails contain factual errors but there are also many truthful statements in each of them, sufficient to warrant concern by any patriotic American who worries about handing the code for the “football” to this man.
It was thanks to my daughter’s observations, a couple months ago, that I began noticing how these effete reporters zeroed in on people who might make misrepresentations of Obama as the TYPICAL WHITE VOTERS against whom Obama must fight uphill in a desperate struggle against prejudice and racism.
It was the Sunday night that 60 Minutes reporter Steve Kroft, in a story on the Democratic race between Clinton and Obama, interviewed a white family which had been devastated by job losses and by serious health problems. But Kroft immediately went for the jugular against the white husband, who said he thought Obama was Muslim. Kroft righteously corrected him, and lectured the man that it wasn’t true. My daughter was appalled by Kroft’s behavior, given that the man was sobbing with grief over his inability to help his very ill wife, and that he was fighting his own health problems, yet was unable to find work, let alone health insurance.
In other words, my daughter observed, Kroft chose the self-righteous path of correcting the man’s suspicions about Obama instead of focusing mostly on the man’s nearly hopeless medical and financial problems, and his utterly broken spirit and his tear-drenched face.
Wherever they go, journalists seem able to find, and highlight, some white voter who claims Obama is Muslim. And they LOVE to write up such people, mocking them, denigrating their worries, essentially writing them off as racists.
And they thereby write off the millions of those “typical white voters” — no matter their own crises, their financial woes, their health plights.
As Truthteller wrote below, about the citizens of Kentucky:
“Typical white people” matter, even if Obama, Brazile and other Washington, DC, elites denigrate and dismiss them. Or perhaps Obama really does despise the “typical white people” of Kentucky. After all, he and his wife listened to the following again and again when they attended the “God Damn America” Church in inner city Chicago for a full twenty years: …
It’s early, and I need more coffee before I write more. But my two primary theses are these:
(1) These “typical white voters,” no matter what opinions they may have of Obama, are entitled to their views and are understandably wary of a candidate about whom they KNOW VERY LITTLE — and that is in good part because the effete media, with the exception of Fox News and a few other outlets, has not adequately explored this man’s shadowy past.
I.e., their suspicions (and what they’re saying really is more an expression of suspicions rather than hard-core beliefs) are not laughable until such time as they are comfortable with proof that the views are untrue.
As Larry Johnson so smartly pointed out last evening in “Some Questions Obama Refuses to Answer“:
The puff piece (some might call it an act of journalistic fellatio) on Barack Obama in the Sunday New York Times is but another reminder that most of the mainstream media have gone AWOL when it comes to getting Barack Obama to tell the truth about his past. …
“Typical white voters” read these puff pieces and see them for what they are: An elite press force-feeding a view of Obama on us that is SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
(2) These “typical white voters” are being further alienated against Obama by a press and a Democratic party that treats them — in knee-jerk fashion — as if it is THEY ONLY who are capable of racism.
NEWS FLASH: Racism is an attitude that ALL people are capable of having, why even — gasp — Barack Obama, his pastor, his fellow parishioners in particular.
NEWS FLASH: There is racist treatment against white people too.
NEWS FLASH: When the “typical white voters” of West Virginia and Kentucky hear, on the news, the vicious, racist words of Jeremiah Wright and Obama’s other spiritual advisers, they are ACTUALLY WISE to be suspicious of Obama’s true attitudes about white people and about his allegiances.
On April 13, 2008, the night of the CNN “Compassion Forum” — a phony and artificial event that betrayed any honest discussion of true compassion — I wrote a warning about what to expect:
During tonight’s forum, I wonder if Barack Obama will be asked about his highly controversial comments about small-town Pennsylvanians, and if he’ll be asked about his 20-year close association with Rev. Jeremiah Wright as well as his other spiritual mentors, including Rev. James Meeks, Rev. Otis Moss, and Father Michael Pfleger.
From Saturday’s Chicago Sun-Times, “Rev. Jeremiah Wright criticizes media at Eugene Pincham funeral“:
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While discussing “seven lessons the judge taught me,” Wright never mentioned church member Obama, who has rejected some of Wright’s comments, which included denunciations of America for its mistreatment of black people and claims that America’s promotion of terrorism abroad helped prompt the 9/11 attacks. But Wright did take the opportunity to bash some of the critics of his controversial statements, including Fox News personalities Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity.
And while Wright made no mention of terrorism, he did revisit the topic of America’s mistreatment of blacks, saying America’s founding fathers “planted slavery and white supremacy in the DNA of this republic,” and adding that Thomas Jefferson wrote, “ ‘God would punish America for the sin of slavery.’ I guess that makes Thomas Jefferson unpatriotic,” he said to the cheers of the congregation.
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Escalating into full-preaching mode, Wright thundered, “Fox News can’t understand that. [Bill] O’Reilly will never get that. Sean Hannity’s stupid fantasy will keep him forever stuck on stupid when it comes to comprehending how you can love a brother who does not believe what you believe. [Pincham’s] faith was a faith in a God who loved the whole world not just one country or one creed.”
At that point, congregants nearly drowned Wright out with a booming standing ovation.
Wright also referred to Fox News as “Fix News.” …
Well, well. It is, at best, politically expedient to pass off all blame on Fox News when, in fact, commentators for dozens of major media outlets and innumerable bloggers of all political stripes have objected strongly to Rev. Wright’s hateful, racist and inaccurate attacks on America and the American people. …
So, when “typical white people” hear that Rev. Wright received a “booming standing ovation” for his hate-filled speech, why should we NOT be suspicious? Why should we not be wary?
SADLY, the day before, there was a black preacher in Virginia who attempted to set the record straight and to let EVERYONE — INCLUDING TYPICAL WHITE PEOPLE — hear what an expression of TRUE compassion is.
But his event, despite his efforts to gain publicity through a nationally distributed press release, was largely ignored.
Had the “typical white voters” of Kentucky and West Virginia heard, and read, the words of this black preacher, they would have agreed entirely with him — and the color of his skin wouldn’t have mattered one bit to them.
You see, the truth is that probably 99% of “typical white people” are able to see past skin color.
All they simply want are 1) not to be ridiculed for their worries, 2) to be told the truth and 3) be reassured that the candidate is indeed a true American patriot.
Here is what I wrote about that Virginia black preacher’s efforts that night:
Here’s some detail on the protest yesterday by Bishop E.W. Jackson Sr., of Norfolk, Virginia’s Exodus Faith Ministries who “like Wright also a former Marine and also African American will sound a very different note than has been heard from Wright’s sermons”:
Black Minister in Norfolk Area Declares ‘Unity & Patriotism’ Day as Counter-Balance to Jeremiah Wright’s Speech at Norfolk Church
Bishop Jackson Calls for Unity Based On Ideals & Patriotism – Not RACE
Sunday, April 13th, 11:30 Am – 1701 Park Ave. (Hoover Ave. Entrance), Chesapeake, VA. at Exodus Faith Ministries
Contact: Bishop Jackson, 866-573-0772, 757-546-7587
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Wright has been quoted as saying “God damn America”, accusing the Government of creating the AIDS virus to kill blacks, and calling the United States a white supremacist country.”
Says Bishop Jackson, “Last Friday I buried a young African American soldier who died from wounds suffered in Iraq”. “Before he went on that mission - his second voluntary tour - he told his mother he was prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice for his country. Seen in that light, Rev. Wright’s remarks are beneath contempt and denigrate the sacrifice of Sgt. Jevon K. Jordan and many other Americans, black, white and every other ethnic background.”
Bishop Jackson has begun a campaign to counter the remarks of Rev. Wright and those who defend him. He argues that Wright’s so called “black liberation theology” is not representative of what African American preachers are offering in pulpits around the country. “We preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified, not hate your country, hate other people and avoid ‘middle class-ness’. The Anti-American, Anti-Israel, pro-Farrakhan message that Wright teaches is heretical to the Bible and Christianity. Christians are too busy teaching what God is doing for us to become obsessed with what real or imagined enemies are doing to us. God commands that we forgive.”
Bishop Jackson is an unapologetic patriot. …
An unapologetic patriot.
That is what these “typical white voters” want to know about their candidate.
That is why “typical white voters” are alarmed that Obama has refused to wear the flag pin.
That is why “typical white voters” were horrified when they saw the footage of Obama — unlike Hillary Clinton, Bill Richardson, John Edwards and the other Democratic candidates — refuse to put his hand over his heart during the playing of the national anthem.
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And with that in mind, let me remind you of the story that a very dear friend told me about what occurred at the King County Democratic convention last month, in the ridiculously P.C. liberal city of Seattle.
The delegates had to wait for a speaker to arrive — a speaker for Hillary Clinton. Most of them, a MOB of them, were there to vote for Obama.
The convention chair suggested activities to pass the time while they waited, more and more impatiently, for Hillary Clinton’s speaker to show up.
The convention chair suggested that the group rise and say the Pledge of Allegiance.
The mob of Obama supporters booed so loudly, says my dear friend, that they drowned out the chair’s comments trying to get them to calm down.
Yes, they BOOED THE SUGGESTION TO SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
Why should any truly patriotic American want anything to do with Obamabots who boo a simple suggestion that they pay homage to their own country?
Why?
And that is what the God-fearing, patriotic “typical white voters” of West Virginia and Kentucky sense about both Obama and his supporters: That they are NOT patriots. That they do NOT want this country, as it exists, to continue. That they do NOT share their values of loving this country which, despite its history, has done MORE for the rights of human beings than practically any country in the entire history of mankind.
NO ONE has been more critical of this country, at times, than I. At the “orange place,” I wrote diary after diary decrying the treatment of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan, the practice of extraordinary rendition, the bombing of civilians, and on and on.
But never once — never — did I stop loving this country, and appreciating all that it has given to all of us.
After all, when my daughter was in the second grade in a Seattle public school, I asked the principal why the students didn’t say the Pledge of Allegiance each morning — as was always done when I was a child in another Washington state town — and as is REQUIRED by state law. The principal informed me that “we don’t do that at this school,” and that “this school” disagrees with U.S. policies, and therefore did not wish to recognize the country in a positive light.
So it is an act of conscience that does not permit me to support Barack Obama, his disappointed-in-America wife Michelle, and his AmeriKKKa-hating preacher Jeremiah Wright. EVER. Because I DO NOT TRUST what they would do with the power they would be given if Obama should become president.
If that man in West Virginia — who the Financial Times chose to mock today — feels wary about Obama — I join him proudly in his wariness. He may have a fact or two wrong about Obama, and he may not be able to articulate his wariness as well as he might, but he is CORRECT in worrying. I join him in worrying plenty about Obama.
As Larry Johnson has warned us, in article after article, there is plenty to worry about: His associations with racist preachers, his associations with slumlords, his associations with a criminal Iraqi billionaire, his associations with Hamas leaders, his associations with known and unrepentant terrorists like William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, and on and on.
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Another consideration about West Virginia:
Also critical is that Democrats consider West Virginia a “swing state.” Bill Clinton won West Virginia “by large margins in 1992 and 1996″ but voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004, with Bush winning “the state’s five electoral votes in 2004 by a margin of 13 percentage points with 56.1% of the vote.” The overwhelming factor there was that Bush’s campaign was able to convince West Virginians that John Kerry was too effete, too liberal, and too unpatriotic, partly through the Swift Boat strategy.























The MSM is desperate and disgusting. My apologies to the people of West Virginia, for them.
Remember: Only 2209 delegates is legit! And Senator Clinton won’t quit!
This is a letter I wrote to Stephen Braun, of the LA Times, who wrote an article implying the same thing- that rural voters are stupid racist hicks who think Obama is a muslim and thus, implying that everything they stand for (and their support for Hillary) must be discredited as racist.
I titled my email “Racisim isn’t the only reason people won’t vote for Obama”
Dear Mr. Braun,
This is in response to your article, “West Virginia could spell trouble for Obama” in the L.A. Times today.
As a very progressive woman (yes, older), I resent the implication that the only reason that people won’t vote for Obama is that they are rural bigots.
Below are some of the (definitely not all) reasons I won’t vote for Obama. I”m a college professor and life-long Democrat. I have voted for Democrats in every election since 1964. This time I may very well vote for McCain and I’m not alone. I grew up in LA and NY and I know how insular those places are (the rest of the country is just a flyover) and since reporters, in general, I’m sorry to say, seem to have no clue about what the actual sentiments are of the people they presume to speak for in the country, I thought I’d let you know my views, which I know are widely shared.
I think Obama is a corporate/mob-linked trojan horse. Nothing could make that clearer than the way the corporate media is trying to shove him down our throats. But I have other reasons for thinking this. Obama says whatever he needs to say. He changes his story whenever convenient. He uses the words of others, including their inflections and even pauses. He steals policies and even jokes from others (see the many Youtube videos available on this topic). He is a total fraud. But he’s charismatic and, of course, can use identity politics to discredit his critics. Yet he will abandon the progressive agenda once he wins. He’s never really stood up for or accomplished anything-except for voting for (for instance) giving the oil companies a huge tax break in 2005 (and then accusing Clinton and McCain of being in the pockets of the oil cos. in 2008, even though they both voted against that bill. He was for universal one payer health insurance when he was running for the U.S. Senate (see video on YouTube) before he was against it and before he ran “Harry and Louise” ads that were identical ( including the clothing of the actors) to the ads used by Big Pharm to kill Hillary’s universal health care plan in the 90s. He wanted to discredit Hillary’s new plan which requires mandates, which the insurance companies hate. The Wall Street Journal (Monday May 5, 2008 front page) has an article titled “Obama Says Teamsters Need Less Oversight.” This article explains why the Teamsters are backing him. He wants to do away with an independent review board “set up in 1992 to eliminate mob influence in the union.” Then there’s his support for Blackwater. Says he sees no reason to oppose them and his support for Supreme Court Justice Roberts, seeing no problem with him and not wanting to keep Supreme Court Justices off the court simply for “ideological reasons.” He only voted no on Roberts because his political advisor told him it wouldn’t fly in the Dem. Primary (this was on Obama’s own website).
Then there is the misogyny of the media and Obama’s followers. He has a very thin skin when it comes to accusing his critics of racism (an absurd charge against the Clintons), but never bothers to stop his followers online or the MSM (especially MSNBC -”the all Obama all the time network”) from making horribly misogynist comments. They call Hillary a bitch, a cunt, a “Fucking Whore,” and that’s okay. Well, guess what? There are millions of women in this country who will not vote for Obama just for this reason alone. We take this personally and our response to the MSM and the DNC, for that matter, this November, will be loud and clear.
I will vote for McCain rather than this fraud. If I’m going to have a Republican in the White House, I’d rather have a real one than one pretending to be a Democrat, whose policies (solving the “social security crisis” anyone?) are no different from those of GW Bush. Our party is being taken over and, if this happens, then Nader is right. There will truly be no difference between the corporate owned parties and all third parties and progressive policies will be shut out.
How anyone can delude themselves that this guy is a progressive is beyond me.
When the corporate media blatantly takes sides, you can rest assured that the public interest is not what they care about.
“99 problems, but not that Ni&&er?”
Well said.
Re. the media shoving Obama down our throat.
When/if Obama gets the nomination, the media will lose no time unshoving Obama from our throat.
Elite Dems and the blogger boyzzzzz (those that aren’t gaming the dems, that is) are gambling new voters will be brought in to vote for Obama, but the media/527 tsunami in store will quickly disabuse them of any hope™ they now enjoy.
They’ve never experienced 24/7 slime maelstrom like the Clintons (or Kerry, or Dean, for that matter). We’ll see what their Obama vehicle is made of. Fun times.
Fantastic letter, derridog. I hope they print it! When people say eggheads are for BO, they must mean those with scrambled eggs for brains (see troll comments).
Remember: Only 2209 delegates are legit! And Hillary Clinton just won’t quit!
Excellent post Susan! What is even more apalling to me, even as a Black woman, in light of how they are holding Hillary’s feet to the fire regarding the comments she made about white voters responding to her, is the fact that Hillary is telling the truth, and yet the fact that so many African-Americans are voting for Obama and nobody has a problem point it out, is just fine. Why is it okay to say that Black voters are responding to him, but not okay to say that white voters are responding to her? This is such a fugged up election season. So truly fugged up. The Democratic party is like a dog chasing its own tail, trying to bite it off at this point and I’m disgusted and I’m disappointed.
FASCISM. n. 1.a totalitarian governmental system led by a dictator and emphaizing agressive nationalism, militarism, and ofen racism. 2. the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.
I believe that Obama is racist and anti-semetic….He is a fascist…
“…We are going to see increasing efforts by the Islamic World to ( win the hearts and minds ) of the Ameican People. Since Muslims have the financial capability….and a growing appreciation of the importance of public opinion in the West….THERE WILL BE TREMENDOUS INVESTMENT BY ISLAMIC STATES IN ALL FORMS OF INTERVENTION IN AMERICAN SOCIETY….. From the hiring of public relations firms…TO MASSIVE SUPPORT OF POLITICAL CANDIDATES…..” Marvin Zonis. “Islam”. The University of Chicago Magazine
September….1980
** PROPHETIC…..OF THE CURRENT SITUATION….NO ? **
Given the fact that the Islamic world and Hamas loves Obama it wouldn’t surprise me.
Put it this way, normal candidates don’t elicit positive responses from a terrorist organization. Either they know something about him we don’t or he’s already communicated with them that he’ll change policy once in office.
And despite Obama’s opportunistic streak, after reading his two books(which are horribly written) BTW), the man strikes me as someone who doesn’t like America and its values nor its people.
When he couldn’t find a nice thing to say about his white grandmother who raised him and made sure he had the best of everything and dinged the country that afforded him a Ivy league education it really says a lot about him and none of it is good.
In a just world the SOB ought to be deported to Kenya where he can act out his African and Muslim fantasies to his twisted heart’s content.
Especially foreigners to their country. It’s like inviting over the Russians for discussions on domestic policy — and welcoming their social norms.
Something else is afoot.
Khalidi, and this guy, Malley who just resigned might have a few moire connection.
And given Ayers is still noisy, I would look into that, and Wrights associations with Farrakhan and Qaddafi.
Auchi, also.
How closely does Qaddafi deal with the Palestinians?
Who is the premier Middle Eastern arms dealer, the one who coordinates for all the lil groups, and bribes American Congresspeople?
GE? lol…
Was that Saddam, or someone associated with him, in Iraq?
Wow. Has it ever occurred to you that the fact that Obama’s currently leading in the GE polls indicates that your views are totally divorced from reality? If only America knew what you know!
The level of blind - and I do mean blind - hatred expressed here has reached a ridiculous crescendo. Both of our Democratic candidates for president have involved millions of new voter in the campaign, many of whom had previously felt underwhelmed by the parade of uninspiring technocrats that the Democrats continually trotted out year after year. Both Hillary and Obama supporters feel a real ownership of their candidate’s struggles, which is a good thing - but when it turns into a compulsion to relentlessly demonize one’s opponent, both truth and common decency too often fly out the window.
If “African and Muslim fantasies” is the level that you’re willing to stoop to, I’d suggest getting some fresh air and turning of Fox News for a while. And before anyone comes in with a “but they do it too” defense, know that the attacks lobbed at Clinton were often unfair as well - she started with an unfairly-assigned negative reputation, which the media was all too glad to piggyback on.
I didn’t read the rest after I saw it was you, but this did catch my eye. You do realize of course that it is May? Good.
Glad to know that I enjoy the special privilege of being ignored. Thanks!
A good swath would agree that Obama needs to go home, home!
He doesn’t pledge to the flag. He doesn’t wear a freaking flag pin. He doesn’t show any symbol that connects him to the USA and it’s people.
But the flag he seems to prefer is the one his butt buddy Ayers likes to stump.
And if folks look, that Ayers coward had to do it in a back alley even. He’s your typical lily livered wimp.
Do you wear a flag pin? I just looked around my office and no one is wearing a flag pin. Most of the people here seem to be pretty good citizens, working hard, paying their taxes. They all seem to love the United States, as do I.
Why would someone even wear a flag pin?
That is such an odd line of criticism and one of those areas where I really thought dems generally would be above this sort of nonsense.
It’s not nice to call Ayers his butt buddy. I believe that is Larry Sinclair.
The Clinton Campaign says there is a Nuclear Option out there, a surprise which could derail the Obama candidacy. The problem is this news media is not interested in news — the news is whatever they say it is. I have read that the Clintons are in this race to stop Obama from becoming President because they know something about him that will hurt this country. GO HILLARY–don’t say you will work your heart out for this fraud — WIN INSTEAD
So why hasn’t she put it away then, if she has this mysterious, mystical, magical “Nuclear Option”? Twits here decry Obama for not “putting it away”, why hasn’t oak-ankles put it away herself, especially if she has this secret weapon? Oh, I get it, she’s just toying with Obama…yeah, that’s the ticket…
Obama is an empty suit with full pockets. He is fatigued. Its the hardest he has ever worked–poor baby. A woman 14 years his senior is cleaning his clock. Let him worry what the Nuclear Option is. Cause it could be so many things. We still have Larry Sinclair out there.
He’s not just “out there” now. You can pick a story about him, Obama, and the dead choir director in your local supermarket this week.
Remember: Only 2209 delegates is legit!
My dear — you operate a country with your brain not your ankles. How superficial of you–but then you are an Obamabot–so we should grade you on a curve.
Um, sh1thead, if, in fact, Hamas supported a candidate, it would be because Muslims don’t value women. Much less to do with Obama as an entity as it is the other one having a Va-jay-jay…
Brucey Sounds like Obama doesn’t value women either. You still don’t have any converts here. Perhaps if you could tell us how much you get an hour for coming up with in depth reasons to vote against Hillary like oak ankles — we could discuss this further. I don’t know if the campaign gives you benefits but I heard they were going to outsource your job to India so you had better find out.
The attempt by the Obama camp to have him appear in WV today, likely to a stacked and bus load filled place is to last minute capture a scene of magically produced proportions! The savior has come, WV’s flock to him does send a message out! The problem with this tactic is one thing about the majority of WV people is they love their guns! A friend there was going through a divorce and the biggest fight was over the collection of guns, not the house, not the furniture, their guns!
The greatest thing about folks in WV is they don’t abide by bullshit, they are frank people, so the only salvation for Obama in WV is Morgan town and the U of WV as possible victories!
The numbers in WV have been steady and if Obama achieves over 35% of the votes in WV, then a fix is definately in Chicago style!
What was the name of the song played at Obama’s Iowa “win?”
“99 problems but not that bitch?”
Imagine if Clinton played a song called
“99 problems but not that ni**er?”
I can write that song…
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
See, it’s the same when call a woman bitch, or a cu**, it’s the same as calling a black person the N word.
Whether you see it, or not.
Get it?
The song is called 99 Problems by Jay Z.
The line in the song is:
“If you’re having girl problems i feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but a bitch ain’t one.”
If they played that at an Obama rally after a victory speech thats pretty tasteless.
Obama himself sang that song in his Limo after winning Iowa. I GOT 99 PROBLEMS BUT THE BITCH AIN’T ONE. Quite a couple these Obamas. She threatens to scratch Bill Clinton’s eyeballs out and he sings a rap song attacking Hillary. Common as muck.
Were you in the limo? How would you know something like this?
Maybe they will book a Coliseum and use a quarter of it again, pack em in good and tight–and then publicize that he has so many fans it required a Coliseum. And of course, the special bus full of the chorus chanters will arrive on time.
May I apologize to the fine and decent people of West Virginia. You don’t deserve what the media has said about you and neither does the rest of us. The media has decided that they don’t have to report the news they can make it whatever they want. You have the power to change that message with your vote tomorrow.
God love you for the fine people you are. You are the backbone of this nation. Know that the rest of us are out here supporting you.
VOTE IN THIS POLL!!! Does Hillary deserve to win the nomination if she wins the popular vote?
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I voted and it’s now at 50%-50%! Hillary needs more votes!
it’s now at 51%
Dumb sh1ts, she’ll only get the nomination if she wins the most delegates. If you want to change the rules, do it for the 2012 election. Why is it that American fascists always want to break the rules to fit their circumstances?
Check out Party history….ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN AT THE CONVENTION….ANYTHING….
It’s probably not too smart to preen around calling yourself the nominee when you haven’t even acquired the number of delegates needed to win, is it? I mean that would be kind of arrogant and presumptious, wouldn’t it? It’s probably especially not too smart to ignore the primaries of states you would need to win just because you think you might get the rest of those delegates the lazy arrogant way, you think? It’s probably not a very good sign of courage to run away from primaries in states you are losing–without even trying–is it?
Just so as you process things right: It’s not who gets the MOST delegates,it’s about who gets the right number of delegates. And just so you know, delegates aren’t yours until they actually vote. Ah, that would be in August. in the meantime, rather than vacation, it might be nice to show all those assholes you think shold vote for you that you give enough of a shit about them to show up and campaign for their pissant votes, ya think?
I bet your parents wish they had oral sex instead.
Sorry, combining the concepts of Hillary and sex in the same context…I’m feeling bile creep up the back of my throat. At least Bill is glad he had oral sex with Monica instead of having to grab hold of those knotted oak fat ankles on Hillary. Man, what a cow! At least Bill had the good sense to go elsewhere for his milk while the cow was at home. Well, maybe someone can treat her to a gigolo after the convention, she’ll need the luvvin.
I am a straight woman and I’d prefer to have sex with Hillary before Barack. At least with her the sex would be good and about mutual enjoyment instead of just about f*ing me over.
That depends on who would strap it on…
Uppity brilliant. — ^5 ^5
They BOO’d the Pledge? Why didn’t this make the MSM?
I’ve been emailing links to these FANTASTIC blogs to FOX. Ya’ll might like to do the same. Drudge too.
Fox has had great ‘fair and balanced’ reporting.
It was mentioned in one story in a weekly newspaper in Seattle. That was all. I scoured the major Seattle newspapers, and found nothing.
The Pledge, to me, is a simple sign of respect. It takes but a few seconds to say. It is nothing more than a reminder that we live in a great country, and that we give our fealty to this great country — its problems as well as its greatness.
I see no problem with it.
(Btw, I just added a paragraph about a fight I had with a school principal when my daughter was a in public elementary school in Seattle — the entire school refused to say the pledge, although required by state law to do so.)
The South has some of that fastest population growth.
And the Pledge is lead over the intercom in our schools (with a flag even to say the pledge to). And we still have faith in school, as well (and government meetings even) — can’t separate it from government here, it’s simply a way of life.
For the area of the country that tried to actually succeed from the USA under arms, it’s very ironic we’re more patriotic than those who didn’t.
Then why are all these Southern Democrats voting for Barack Obama?
Not all, but the huge Black Block vote that is here. Nowhere else in the country are there more Blacks. Up north you can live in a community and not even see one for years. Down here, they can be the majority (like my home city).
And if folks think this Black voting block is “progressive”, they’re in for a surprise. In the South, on moral issues they vote just like the Republicans — heck, even the Democrat leadership will ask you to do so (I wasn’t going to vote for a state senator who was trying to get a 2x child molester off the hook — and I don’t care what party wants the bastard in office).
So basically Latte Dems are going to have a huge wake up call! Pays to know who you’re shopping for votes for, and not react to stereotypes.
Black, black , black. White, white, white. Black, black, black. White, white, white.
Oh I’m so glad I happened on this website for some reasoned discourse. We don’t get anything like this on the Obama and McCain sites.
You people disgust me.
I read your Obama sites. I know exactly what you get there. That’s why I am here.
Sums up Obama’s campaign!
Just because we can have serious discussions about race without calling each other names, that disgusts you? Moron. Fucking Moron. Go back to the lies and pure pablum being pushed on Obama sites. It’d be more suited to your tiny intellect.
Yes, it IS curious that so many sons of Maine and Michigan and Wisconsin who were concerned enough to fight for the freedom of black men in the south had so little interest in taking black people back to their Bastions of Liberty, Love and Equality in the north when the war ended.
I remember vividly the news accounts of enlightened Bostonians welcoming AA children into their schools with rocks and bottles.
Of vourse, ONLY rural white southerners can be racists…we hicks, rednecks, shit-kickers, clod-hoppers and peckerwoods… poor, dumb bastards drive pickup trucks, can’t make quiche, don’t keep Dijon mustard on the table and drink (gag!) domestic beer!!!
‘Scuse me, while I have connubial relations with a farm animal.
Suuuuuuuuuwwwweeeeeee ! Yee Haw ! Ride em’ cowboy ! LOL
“it IS curious that so many sons of Maine and Michigan and Wisconsin who were concerned enough to fight for the freedom of black men in the south had so little interest in taking black people back to their Bastions of Liberty, Love and Equality in the north when the war ended.”
So very true. East coast AA northerner, here and I can vouch for the fact there is nothing like a northern racist.
We disgust you?? Well back at you! I’ve never been more nauseated by all the mock outrage over racism by these Fauxgressives who are exploiting the AA cmmunity and their experience for this biracial candiate.
The Republicans haven’t gotten a chance to vote too—yet.
But if you can get them to all stay home in November, that would work.
They won’t stay home. They may hate McInsane, but compared to Obama, they’ll vote for him.
Uppity,
I’m sure Senator Hopey-Dope is working right now on “Operation: How to get the Republicans to stay home on a Election Day”
i have seen a video of this somewhere. I will look for it later. (trying to do some projects in the house today!) But, there is video!
Great post!!!
Look up the Flag Code…it is the law….
There are forms of protest that are within the bounds of constitutional rights and there are protests that are illegal….
Not sure what you are getting at it but the state has not been able to compel someone to say the pledge of allegiance since 1943.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette
Um, editorial blogs by partisans do not count as “news”.
Then you need to stop readinng DKos.
Never been there, what do they talk about?
emily — who would have believed it but Fox News has the most fair and balanced reporting.
The most glaring example of reverse racism is the latest furor over Hillary’s reference to an AP article citing that Senator Obama is finding it increasingly difficult to connect with “white” working class voters. Isn’t this a statistical fact? Since February, this key demographic voting block is not voting for him in increasing numbers. This is critical to the general election. Somehow, pointing this out is racist? As if the working class voters or Republicans don’t know about it? We’re all supposed to pretend it will go away…musn’t hurt poor Barack.
Worse, there is constant talk about the 90% African American vote for Obama and “against” Hillary. She is asked about this repeatedly. Where is the racist furor when this is discussed?
This entire primary process has been hijacked.
We’re used to it in the South. So to make up for it, we vote for candidates that match our values, and keep the presidency in our corner; then we fill up the ranks of the military — there is a reason so many military bases are located here, ya know?
So if these anarchists and Commies believe they’ll have a revolution on our dime, Bubba can have fun putting a M16 in their face over their Latte.
Besides, in the South we prefer iced tea.
This is true for any race of human beings;
-Booker T. Washington
And for politics and anything else that requires some leader/organization — for such leaders/organizations have to justify their existence. If the “problem” goes away, then they don’t have influence or a job.
So think about organizations, for health, science, education, and think about what doesn’t get cured; answered; or taught.
Why I despise special interest groups. I bet if a cure for cancer is found, someone in the Establishment would try to delay it — with extra testing and regulations — so they can find something to do afterwards (if 20,000 folks die a day while they’re trying to line up a job, who cares right?). :rolleyes:
I understand your point, but it’s not that easy, even when you’re trying to do the right thing, so many factors have to be considered, one thing leads to another, and its’ important to prepare for all contingencies.
When we worked on on the space station, even the smallest part of a larger piece, say, the latch on the common berthing mechanism, (where the shuttle would dock with the space station) had to have a pass rate of 99.9999999 percent when tested, so to speak.
It teaches you the need to prepare for every single contingency, a multitude, because sloppy engineering means dead people in space, and failure is not an option, when you know what you’re doing.
And it’s a testament to the people doing the work, that NASA has had so FEW catastrophes, really.
Evelyn Pringle’s latest piece on Obama is up:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_evelyn_p_080512_curtain_time_for_bar.htm
Excellent writer, Evelyn Pringle, managing to break down some very difficult concepts…
Too bad the American press is so sloppy, and stupid, and corrupt.
CALL, CALL, CALL WEST VIRGINIA
CALL, CALL, CALL OREGON
NO.
CALL OREGON. That’s the state to worry about.
Oregonians are a strange group of people. And their urban folk are as loopy left as Seattleites.
we seattlites are not all loopy! ;O)
Have more children.
Like you, I’m a FORMER Seattleite. I miss Whole Foods and the vastly better doctors, but that’s about it.
No more than is to be expected from living under nearly-perpetual overcast with 13,000% humidity and enough rain to make mold grow under one’s armpits…
LOL….Fred you are a gentleman and a scholar….
Quisque Commoedus Est…
( Everybody’s a commedian…)
Today, this Mon AM MSNBC is reporting that Hillary now has given up the race, is planning her exit strategy, that it is expected she will be ‘gracious’ and is so in debt for the campaign that “obama is not ruling out paying her campaign’s debts” (as an act of kindness lol)
Can see MSM strategy is TO GET VOTERS IN REMAINING STATES TO GIVE UP ON VOTING FOR HER - but what else does Larry have to say about this?? PLEASE comment Larry!
They are saying all that can stop bo now is a MAJOR slip-up on his campaign’s part.. as if 57 states shouldn’t be enough.
Susan, regarding that mass email trashing obama - I have been researching its contents for the last 10 days and have documentation on MOST of its claims that VERIFY the contents. Even bo fans who blog on it do NOT attempt to discredit the contents (which is telling in itself). Instead, their attacks on it are aimed at defaming its authors and scaring HILL and McC supporters into thinking our candidates will be attacked the same way if we circulate the piece (which is nonsense.)
I have the email in question and have not circulated it yet because I have been expanding upon documentation of its claims and other related verifications/elements that support its conclusion. Conclusion is bo campaign is for purposes of muslim infiltration into US with civil racial riots/violence to intimidate and disrupt democracy. There is certainly nothing right wing or crazy about that. It’s getting pretty obvious.
IMPORTANT ADDITION; Last night when posting here was discussion of who is behind MSM lies for bo. Someone mentioned GE - referring to General Election - and I got queasy feeling about GE - as in General Electric - THE WORLD’S LARGEST CORPORATION and major supplier of military machine.
So I researched this AM and guess what? GENERAL ELECTRIC OWNS MSNBC (among its gigantic web of global holdings). Now MSNBC reports this AM how Hillary has already given up, is planning exit strategy and will be generously funded by bo to pay campaign debts.
(SIDEBAR STORY; someone I know well was on GE fast track and near upper levels. Then a few years ago 2 things happened. They told me of GE’s big proposed contracts to put BIOWARFARE cleaning tanks in all major US hospitals. Shortly therafter, never discussing why, this GE management person got very depressed, without explanation, then decided they
didn’t want to work for GE anymore and left. Please notice connection of Bio War fare clean rooms in our hospitals and fears of muslim biological attacks on US. This was a BIG MONEY contract for GE - with the hospitals - don’t know what became of it.)
Conclusion: THE VAST BOTTOMLESS FUND OF OBAMA CAMPAIGN $$$ IS CONNECTED TO ENDLESSLY WEALTHY CORPORATE WAR MACHINE, GENERAL ELECTRIC.
Also bear in mind that MS Microsoft part of MSNBC tried to buy out google/yahoo - See how that relates to blocking blog activity on the truth VS MSM crap????????
LARRY PLEASE WRITE ON ALL THIS. Thanks for this crucial site.
“Susan, regarding that mass email trashing obama - I have been researching its contents for the last 10 days and have documentation on MOST of its claims that VERIFY the contents. Even bo fans who blog on it do NOT attempt to discredit the contents (which is telling in itself). Instead, their attacks on it are aimed at defaming its authors and scaring HILL and McC supporters into thinking our candidates will be attacked the same way if we circulate the piece (which is nonsense.)”
MY NEIGHBORS get those e-mails, and I’ve asked them to forward them to me every time. They do. Most of the information IS correct. Sometimes they get the middle name wrong — one said it was “Osama.” Which hurts the veracity of the rest of the information.
BUT, in my BONES, I sense that this man is NOT a patriot. That he — and even moreso his wife — do NOT love this country.
And that he must not get the presidency for that reason alone — all of his other considerable problems (lack of experience, associations, etc.) aside.
I know someone who worked at a poll site in Western PA for a local state rep. candidate. All she kept saying was that Obama will never win. She said no one ever said anything about his race, but they mentioned unfailingly about the fact that he wouldn’t wear that flag pin, or wouldn’t place his hand over his heart when the pledge was being said, that he wasn’t a patriot. And he did lose the precinct 3 to 1 to Hillary.
Susan….Your bones are correct….It is your common sense….
Obama is patriot to nothing save his agenda…which we don’t know
Michelle Obama is patriot to her race and her self…
Rev. Wright is patriot to his Demagoguery…and his racial supremacy
Coupled wth current economic and political trends…globally as well as nationally….A PERFECT RECIPE FOR FASCISM….DAMN NEAR IDEAL CONDITIONS….
May I ask WHY ON EARTH you watch MSNBC? I refuse to, except once in a while when Fox News — especially in the mornings, sigh– tends to go to stories that they think will appeal to housewives and old ladies — lots of missing white women, etc.
I’m finding myself watching Morning Joe more often hoping he’ll throw Hillary a bone! Or Juan Williams on Faux News.
How sad is that? I’m down to very few TV news programs. I used to just leave it on MSNBC for MOST of the day and night. ACK!
Glad the digital box for cable is broken (no, I doubt my mom destroyed it after watching Obama!). I’d blow a blood vessel if I watched that.
The MSM has gone way overboard with yellow journalism. Hearst would’ve been proud. >:(
John Rowe is the actor here?
And he’s the energy guy, in the tank for Obama, right, part of the propaganda push, to get McCain elected?
Just remember this is the group that took us to Iraq.
And they fucked it up, not understanding what they were doing.
They’re fucking this up, too.
If anything she would suspend her campaign after the primaries….This means that she is still in contention at the convention….It would be a mechanic that is all…She will make her case at the convention…She will do this because Time is not Obamas friend and the more that is exposed about him the better….BTW…Because Edwards supended his campaign….
Technically he is still in contention at the convention….There is party historical precedent for the convention to choose a candidate who did not even run in the primaries….Truth is anything can happen….
No, she will suspend her campaign so she can continue to collect her $11 million campaign loan back. If she quits, she’s out the $11 million, and I’ve never known the Clintons to leave money on the table.
Working Class the longer this goes on the more Obama screws up. Let the games continue…..
Poll Predicts 36-Point Clinton Landslide in W. Virginia — Voters Say Clinton’s Persistence Will Not Hurt the Democratic Party — Although Barack Obama is the likely Democratic nominee, West Virginia Democratic voters are marching to a different drummer, as Hillary Clinton leads …
The whole country is matching to a different beat, just as they did with Bill’s impeachment.
This is another attempt to create their own reality, and like everything else those morons do, it’s backfiring on them, too.
hey Do0ds, you left your industrial military complex unguarded!
If Enron came down in two months, so can GE.
Really, you see without the infrastructure to support it, meaning the talent and the money, it falls.
And the wars are breaking it.
But please, elect McCain, certainly he understands the concept.
Those idiots actually fall for their own propaganda.
He deserved to be impeached just for picking a dopey fat chick to replace Hillary in the luvvin department. He could have done so much better than Monica.
Brucey — dope fat chick — oak ankles. God your boring.
Brucey’s sitting by his mail box watching and waiting for his fake viagra. It was supposed to get there Friday. He’s praying for one of those four hour erections so he can send pictures on his cell phone to his buddies.
If you don’t want to say the pledge, fine. Be disrespectful but DON’T run for PRESIDENT of the COUNTRY!
if you want to be CEO of Frito Lay?
You BEST like eating cheesy poofs! lol
Or what the hell is the point?
We also stood for the pledge at Hillary’s rally here in ASheville. No one had a problem with it!
That is because you are a law abiding citizen….It is the law….Flag Code
It’s because it’s the way it is in the South. The schools have that pledge from Kindergarden through high school, no one talks of it being some law. They used to even have prayers into the 70s, as well.
It’s played at sporting events, too. Just look at the opening of the NASCAR races (and those events aren’t required to hold the Pledge).
Just another example how and why folks in the South can and do see folks up North and West as “weird” — and they seemed surprised that candidates like John Kerry aren’t electable????
False. Flag code is a guide and does not impose any penalties.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette
VERY passionate diary Susan. Great Work!
That 11 year old boy brought me to tears. And if you knew me, you would know that’s not very easy at all. I can’t even begin to tell you the relevant thoughts I am having pertaining to how Hillary has been treater by people who are **supposed** to be older and wise.
We boomer created little monsters who grew up to be greedy, pushy monsters. If they wanted something we got it for them. We stood in lines 24 hours ahead of time to get them to tryout on the Team. We gave them the best. Sometimes we gave them the best when we couldn’t even afford it. If they had a paper route, we drove them to all the houses when it snowed. We ran to school and stuck up for them in every single instance. We let them have all the latest fads. We upgraded their computers for them ad nauseum. We didn’t tell them at 16 to go get off their butts a summer job. They began to emerge as “upscale” in their minds. They had no problem taking money from us, even long after they could have easily supported themselves, but that they didn’t want to “give up” the perks. Some of them STILL don’t have problems taking money from us. We created these monsters who now want to “purge” us. Given the opportunity, most of them would finish off our retirement investments and then vote to eliminate our future social security.
This is not to say I don’t know parents who raised some very fine, level-headed and self-supportive kids. That is the truth and I hate to generalize. But the truth is, those who didn’t are the very people posting at DKos, wishing we would all just croak. This Obamazoid generation was created overall by Us. If your son or daughter is not one of them, I salute you and I know you must be very proud, for I suspect you are in the minority.
Thankyou Susan for the post…My daughter has always been in the statistical minority at each of her schools. This has been good for her. She supports Clinton. My daughter just turned 18 in March. We are the working poor….Much of this is due to lack of regular child support and irregularities in the construction industry…She just won a scholarship to The University of the Arts…and has recieved matching grants from the University and Pell based on need. It is the only way she will be able to go to college and she has known this since she was young….I did the same thing although I recieved no federal grants.
I worked my way through school and got scolarships…It took me 10 yrs.
Last summer she got her first job and this $$ helped to pay rent…I felt ashamed and grateful….She felt proud…
This summer she has the opportunity to go to the British Isles with a friend and his family for free….All I had to do was come up with the $$ for her passport….She is getting to experience what I never could..
I am poor and I work….But I still live the American Dream because My daughter has a great life and many opportunities…She works hard for it…
Yes Uppity…There are lots of kids like that boy….They are our hope…
Thanks for sharing that ARTIST…Thats inspirational and you are to be respected and commended…Keep the Faith..Yopu can be Proud of your Daughter and I believe she is very proud of You and Loves you very much..She is a lucky girl..I hope all Her dreams come true..
Best Wishes to you to Artist..Thanks for sharing here..
She had a short film premier at AFI…It was a film about prejudice…
She wrote it and directed it…called Morning Ritual….Cool Huh ?
WorkingClassArtist, thanks for your wonderful story. Your daughter sounds like she learned nothing but the best from you… no wonder you’re so proud. You and that 11 yr old made my day.
You must be SO proud!
I AM VERY PROUD AND GRATEFUL…. I decided before she was born to do everything I could to make sure she had the best education I could find…Where we live the public school system is under federal indictment….When she was in pre-school We lived with my mother so I could afford the 400.00+/mo…but it was worth it…she was reading by the age of 4….From K-8th grade she went to the smallest and poorest catholic school in the parish…But it was worth it…She learned how to study which is the greatest thing Catholic education offers and they start at 5….When she was in 10th grade she was accepted into Booker T Washington Highschool for the Visual and Performing Arts and this has been her salvation…She is determined to use her talent to contribute to her society…And what Artist could’nt ask for more from themself…their peers…and their children….
She believes that Art has the ability to challenge….She lives it…
Buy her some condoms before the trip, you don’t want any surprises 9 months later.
Go, Hillary!! Keep fighting, girl!
Gosh, all those uggs for Obama, who would fuc& one?
UGGS FOR OBAMA ‘08.
Is that a soc man crew?
Heart goes Thump Thump, workingclass artist..
What a painting. Thanks for sharing.
Because they have almost a fatalistic aspect to life. They don’t see the future long-term, it’s the here and now (a mindset that is suppose to leave when reality of a job, bills and family hits them).
They’re smarter than us, but dumber than a stack of bricks in the wisdom department. Used to be if a kid fell and skinned his knee he’ll learn to be careful or not do it again. Now? He’ll do it again, again, again………..
How in the world will we undo that mess?
Not fatalistic as much as they do feel they have superior intellect.
Every decision they make is based on a logical fallacy, though, meaning it WILL FAIL.
And they’re too stupid to get it, period.
They KNOW they are arguing using logical fallacies, what they don’t understand is they REALLY think the same way, too, confirming their beliefs with a logical fallacy.
So, while trying to troll the public, they troll themselves, too.
Pretty easy, when you think about it, brought the USSR down, too.
For a laugh, just watch K** people try to logically determine who is a troll, and who isn’t.
And they cant, because they can’t see through the arguements, reason them correctly, those giants of the Internet…
Just like the republicans.
Why is Obama, and even McCain, bad for the nation, for K**, for that whole crew, eventually?
And they can’t reason it, they come back with “99 problems but not that bitch.”
But really, it’s really, ” 99 problems, but not that ni**er.”
It’s your language…
And because binky can’t defend, he smears like a Heather, everyone yelling “racists!”(which is again, a logical fallacy, and an illogical GOTCHA!) and whoever screams the loudest, wins, in his lil head…
But really, one logical fallacy on another, and no one getting smarter…
Well Uppity, I agree and can offer only one consolation: this shit has happened before.
The Victorians spawned their opposites in the Edwardian Suffragettes.
The generation preceding the Victorians (The Regency Crowd) was considered debauched and libertine in extremis.
I don’t know if this represents a knee-jerk reaction to one’s upbringing or if it’s just the human condition…I’m childless so my personal experience with such things will never be realized!!
I cried about the 11 year old too. He just sold off his possessions to donate money to a candidate that has already lost and despite the collective thoughts of 100 or so small minds here will not steal this election.
Poor kid.
Spoken like a true Obama person. You guys are the mirror image of the right wing whackjobs.
Not only poor, but a dumb-ass for giving money to a failed campaign. If they won’t start making informed intelligent decisions, they’re doomed to be forever poor and hopeless. I guess that’s just the laws of natural selection at work.
You are about as disgusting as they come. The arrogance — who the hell are you to talk about “natural selection” as if you are the preferred creature? To my way of thinking, you’re not the one who makes those decisions, are you? There must be a base level of hate in every human being. I am stunned that you have to go to an 11 year old child and still haven’t reached yours.
He is a typical Obama supporter. And this why Obama will never win in November.
THAT KID HAS MORE INTEGRITY AT 11 THAN YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ENTIRE SELF CENTERED LIFE…IT’S OVER…YOU ARE INDICATIVE OF THE FASHIONABLY BORED AND INTELLECTUALLY MEDIOCHRE…
THAT KID PUT HIS MONEY IN WHAT HE BELIEVES IN…YOU BELIEVE IN NOTHING….YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS….
heard of Caps Lock? ah, not so much, eh? Well, if you can drag your knuckle over to the left side of the keyboard, you might find it. So now we’re all to take our guidance from dumb-ass back-woods 11 year olds who pick a presidential candidate? You know, maybe he picked her for different reasons. Kids love to climb trees, and Hillary has ankles like knotted oaks…maybe he just thought it would be a good climb.
God help us. I hope that you never procreate.
But he gets it. He has the emotional commitment and will sacrifice. Something Obama will never have. That should make you sad.
What a creep you are —
dirty rotten filthy, lying, self centered, jerk — just like your “savior”.
uppity — what gets me about Obama is that he wants to run his campaign for the under 35 year olds. So in addition to a race war we are going to have a generational war. There are alot of boomers who thought they would have a retirement large enough to carry them through but are finding out that they are getting 1/4 of what they were promised. The false meme that the Boomers have broken Social Security is beginning to take hold–even though SS will only run a short fall for about 15 years. The boomers had few children so Social Security would be running a surplus after that.
However, the powers that be have decided the boomers are the enemy, not Bush who spent the SS money on two failed wars. Just before the primary race started Andrea Mitchell said once this election is over the boomers will cease to matter — we will never hear from them again. I think part of the agenda was to break the boomers which is why the New and Improved Democratic Party has no place for older Americans. Only Hillary treats Americans like they matter — to Obama its all a big game in which he will come out with big bucks. As for the rest of the American people well he didn’t give a shit about us anyway.
I so appreciate the work you do SusanUnPC, Thanks.
GOOD J SUSAN!!!!!!! This is the way you fight these manipulators with the truth. Many blacks who’ve voices has been silence rely on the media and the bloggers to make our voice heard. We sit here and see Obama and our weak brother and sister exploit races and beat our white American brother and sister daily with that label, We wait on the day when white Americans together with black Americans stand up and say no more of these tactics Mr. Obama. Right after SC primaries Florida say no to his racism,voted Hillary. Obama could have ended the racism flame by saying in SC of course the Clinton’s are not racist instead he remained silent and rode the train of racism to victory, didn’t care how he would divided this country , The plan was to blame the Clinton’s hoping we wouldn’t see he was really the racist
John — once Obama let that Genie out of the bottle — there was no putting it back. I believe as you do — we need to come together as one nation and not support anyone who tries to divide us. The saying is DIVIDE AND CONQUER. I think thats what Obama has in mind.
Kroft and others like him are why conservative leaning Americans despise the press and call it liberal. Its liberal in certain ways - social issues to the point of PC. But on economic issues they are totally Darwinian and out to lunch, they couldn’t care if Joe Sixpack’s job got off-shored to China and his health insurance canceled.
And as Kroft so aptly demonstrated they are nasty and heartless SOB’s with a superiority complex of Donald Trump.
And they wonder why many Americans would like to use them for target practice.
ME TOO…
All The Regulars here ROCK..
Thanks to All for the time, effort and dedication you put in to writing here…So much of this needs to go Public in the MSM..So many Americans just rely on the 6 o’clock news and they just are not hearing these things about Obama and his background and associates on CBS,NBC or ABC at 6 oclock…
..sure…some coverage on Wright..then Obamas denials and distancing himself from Wright…most people say..OK..thats cool…..Thats all they know..
Otherwise..its been a little from Hannity and on Fox…and some from Glen Beck..which is probably reaching the people who would not for for Obama anyhow…
Our frustration here is that what the Public is being sold is a ObamaBaby Imbominator…
How many People would vote for a known Communist..or a known Marxist..
HGow many people would want anyone who has been raised and mentored and spent thier lifetime associating with Communists, marxists and terrorists and Revolutionarys running the United states government and the united states military..
If people were paronoid about the Bush Administration and the Neo Cons..abusing power..
Then maybe, just maybe, that was only the opening Act..and the main Show is just beginning..
Ah Yes, fellow NQ team Mates..The “Status Quo..”
Hillary and Obama’s Senate voting records are nearly identical. We should all fear Hillary being a radical communist if she somehow manages to steal the nomination.
You do that.
Good troll, someone throw him another GE contract…
LOL
YOU MORON.
Hillary and Obama’s Senate voting records are nearly identical. We should all fear Hillary being a radical communist if she somehow manages to steal the nomination.
Don’t confuse them with facts!
According to the American Conservative Union, Obama has the 17th most liberal lifetime rating. Hillary? She’s way far more moderate . . . she’s the 18th most liberal!
Great observations Susan!
What kills me about all this is that I distinctly remember a few years back a certain person named Howard Dean saying in an interview that these are the type of voters that the Democrats should be going after.The guys with the gun racks on the rear truck windows… The people he said “vote against their own best interest”.
It seems that BO has decided to disregard Howie’s advice??
Axelprod has decided to replace them with Colorado and New Mexico??
They evidently weren’t impressed with Harold Ford’s near victory in Tennessee were they?
Where’s their message of hope and change for Appalachia?
Oh, I guess change there is too difficult to come by? It’s tooooooo haaaaaaard.
Abandon all hope ye who enter…we’re in red-neck country!
I’m an educated, “elitist latte drinker”. But I too heard Obama was a Muslim and his wife was an athiest, LOL.
Unfortunately when I started researching, what I found was much worst. His wife is an angry woman who goes to a church that preaches God damn America and Obama hangs out with a former terrorist.
Hell of a strategy these Dems are using. Let’s insult voters and whole states, let’s call people garlic noses, accuse them of racism, tell them they’re undeducated, mock them on the news, etc etc. And lets really give black people a hard time, death threats if they don’t support The Chosen One, steriotypes on the news, manipulated statistics.
Hey one good thing, I don’t think there’s a single group of voters that haven’t been insulted and put down by the Obama campaign and the media. From the latte drinkers to the coal miners. How’s that for equality, we all get dumped on.
Dean said he was embracing Rove…
LOL
It’s the rantings of all the imbeciles on this website that make me say God D@mn America…
It’s over for Hillary, the least you fanatics could do is help her get back her 11 million bucks. I’d hate to see her eating canned cat food this winter…
Good TROLL.
someone throw him another GE contract.
You’re too stupid for me…
She’s actually 20 million in debt now. If Obama doesn’t bail her out she’ll be bending over those uneducated white people she claims to support now that it benefits her.
You will be called a troll for your statement though.
Oh look, you already have! We’d have much more fun if the ilk that post here were smart enough to have an intelligent discussion. As it stands our opponents are crippled by stupidity.
No, she’ll be stealing the cash back from more dumb-ass 11 year olds, selling off their toys and crap so she can decorate her posh carpet-bagger mansion in the New York burbs.
If they go broke, she can work.
Work is not degrading. Why do the Obamanates disparage it so?
Because they’re not knuckle-dragging uneducated white trash trailer folk (can we say West Virginny?), the base of Hillary’s support. Obama does better with the college educated folks, who understand more of the big words.
such as mmmm, errrrrrrrr, aaaaaahhhhh, otiose?
nugatory ???????
jejune ?????????
But do they know it when they see it? [it = any/all of the above]
Apparently not.
The term for this condition: kenagnosia.
You know, you would think if Hillary doesn’t bother you any longer, is marginalized, no problem at all, that you wouldn’t waste your time coming here. Yet the influx of you Obama plants is just amazing this week….
Just sayin’. We’ll talk. In August. As you might imagine, Time is not Barry’s good friend.
No, this is a fun place. I actually think there is money to be made. I make and sell knuckle cream, and I see lots of potential here…gonna be a huge quarter for knuckle cream sales!
[BRUCEY BOY, you are history, but i will not erase your comments just because the crowd may find them amusing. -- The Administrator]
Brucey — Ok Oak Brain–does that mean you’re leaving? Don’t let the door hit you where the good lord split you.
Dalton Hatfield is one inspiring kid!
Dalton Trumbo being one of my favorite writers, given he was blacklisted as a commie.
Funny, McCarthy was the real commie.
Maybe EARLY republican strategy, calling it the “southern strategy” and the South lost.
WHAT is it with those guys?
They’re assholes.
They’re stupid.
We bother them. How come?
Succinct and to the point….Thanks Fred….
Yeah, well said, Fred!! Very good point! Here, here, I second that! Better yet, I’ll see your asshole and raise you one dickhead! Yeah, that’s it, they’re assholes AND dickheads! Yayyyyyy!! Rahhhhhhhhh!!!! Woo! Woo! Woo!
The chain emails you all forward around are not filled with facts. They are filled with misrepresented half truths and surrounded by blatant outright lies. You should all be ashamed.
But again, you’re trolling a logical fallacy, you can’t win with it, and you think you can.
Once others see how you think, they can manipulate you.
You fail to understand, inferior intellectually.
Really now? I will put up to $100,000 that says I’m more intelligent than you. Prove your point HILLARYTROLL. ahahhahaha
Well, lets see, is the industrial military complex going down, despite your best efforts, shithead?
Point made.
stick to things you know, how is the weather, moron?
I would say where to sent the check, but you’re dumb, and ugly, and I wont be associated with that, um, mediocrity.
really.
And was the goal, you low IQ foo, to elect Clinton, or destroy the GE’s?
And you dont even understand the arguemnt, you lil shithead ugg.
Not go back to UGGS for Obama, we need him destroyed, too.
good lil tool…
Did you get one of the Obama troll jobs which was outsourced to India? Welcome aboard. Hammer
Got IQ?
“Its Overs” should be “It’s Over” genius.
I mean so why bother coming here then? Nothing to worry about right?
May…..June…..July…..August…..Convention Vote.
Boy, that’s a lot of time to wait isn’t it? All kinds of things can happen. Not that Barack has anything to hide or worry about, right?
Its Overs, dood! Write more checks to Hillary so she can decorate the 14th and 15th bedrooms in her little cottage. She can’t afford it until you give her back her $11 million.
shut up
that comment is meant for its over by the way! sorry!
Several informative articles in the politics section about all 3 major canidates in today’s Bloomberg.com
Oh, that little boy with his bicycle — brought tears to my eyes. That is the other thing — I have shed too many tears about the unfairness and the injustice of this primary election. The role of the media has been despicable. They have exacerbated the situation like going after low information voters with that Muslim thing — why not educate them with a full vetting. Better yet, why does not Obama go there and show his true colors? Wait, that would actually be a problem. He may convince them he is not a Muslim, but he may show his true colors in other ways.
The fact that he has actually conceded those states to Clinton and not even trying , doesn’t that tell the SDs something about this guy? Isn’t it an affront to the SDs who have not committed that he is going around acting like the nominee?
2209 and not one delegate less!
I agree, it makes me cry to know that the children of America are that stupid. We’ve somehow got to improve the educational system so this kind of absurdity won’t happen again.
barfy and his gang want to remake the democratic party with angry young people and the creative types. good luck with that! seriously that is what michelle and barfy have been taught by the good rev. they maybe gone from trinity, but it is in their heads no doubt. does anyone think that this a marriage made in heaven. the aa’s want reparations and who knows what else. the ones on the far side want it all. the creative think nirvanna is here, yeah, right!
barfy will do enough damage to send the democratic party back to minority status for a very long time.
i mean no disrespect for the persons of minority status posting here. my comment is meant in context of the campaign. with voters wanting their part of the pie and some telling them that more is better will blow up in everone’s face. it is a continuation of the polarization scheme of axelrod. he is trying to use the inherent dissatisfaction of groups to pit them against each other for the benefit of the few. this of course will backfire and bring out more voters but not in the way axelrod might think.
i support affirmative action and feel it has helped many.
stodgie — Obama is the most hated Democratic candidate in my lifetime. The media may choose to ignore it but there it is. There is going to be a realignment in the Democratic Party but Howard Hitler and Donna Madonna won’t like it. If the Democratic Party loses the White Senior, Boomer, Working Class and Hispanic Voters The Democratic Party will be toast. As Paul Begalla says — You Can’t Win An Election With Eggheads & AA’s.
Obama followers keep saying Hillary is done ,lost, its over.News storys say Why is she still smiling.I know why. This is playing out like the Tortoise and the Hare.oBAMA thinking hes got the nomanation wrapped up is taking his nap now.Slow and study as she goes she will win.You obama people think were stupid See I have read a book.lol Becky I still believe she will win.
I’d like to know if Jeremiah Wright was with Khalid Abdul Muhammad when he visited Libya in 1984. He was with Farrakhan. But at the time, Farrakhan’s closest aide-de-camp was KAM, who was a certified nutcase.
Also, if a black man can become a Presidential candidate, is it time to end race-based affirmative action? I wish someone would ask Obama that. Have they? My impression is that someone asked him once, and he gave one of his patented nuanced answers.
SusanUnPC: Just a note of correction. The pledge-booing took place at the 43RD Legislative District caucus. I was there (and I was later elected a Clinton-delegate to the WA State convention). The heckling was revolting. I can only say I’m thankful our Chair was a Clinton-supporter; caucuses run by Obama-supporters give me the willies.
By the way, I’m also a mixed-race (AfAm/White), grad-educated woman born and raised in The Great State of Ohio. My co-workers could attest to the fact that I have been absolutely livid the past few weeks over the crap-ass stereotyping of working-class white folks from the PA/Appalachia/Indiana region. The Democratic Party — and the U.S. “creative class” in general — needs to get over itself. HRC is absolutely right that we need to bring working class citizens — OF ALL ethnicities — back into the tent. Frack Obama, the MSM, and the spineless African American “leadership” for their selfish, short-sighted, race-baiting tactics.
“In order to secure the nomination at the convention, a candidate must receive at least 2,028½ votes from delegates.”
ugh! typo!
“In order to secure the nomination at the convention, a candidate must receive at least 2,208½ votes from delegates.”
For you to complain about the “stereotyping” of working class white folks, then to say you support Hillary doesn’t make ANY SENSE! She was the person, after all, who declared that they won’t vote for Obama, which is why SHE should be the nominee.
So I ask you: do you agree with her (that he can’t get working class white votes) or do you agree with him (that he will do just fine)?
Well I figure if his surrogates pull the Race Card a few more times on TV, he won’t get much of ANY white votes. I mean people are beginning to roll their eyes.
B-Rob: It is YOU who do not make any sense. HRC — like a bazillion other pundits and analysts had done — pointed to polling results that showed that she has been performing well with working-class Whites. That statement was a factual one.
By contrast: To intimate that working-class Whites won’t/are not voting for BHO because they’re ignorant bigots is to engage in ethnic stereotyping.
Bigotry as defined by Random House Dictionary is extreme intolerance of anothers religion or creed ( philosophy ) or opinion….
I AM AN AVOWED BIGOT REJECTING OBAMAS THEOCRACY AND HIS RACIALLY DEVISIVE AND EXPLOITATIVE POLITICAL TACTICS…OBAMA IS A FASCIST…HIS FOLLOWERS ARE SIMPLE MINDED…I REJECT WHAT HE STANDS FOR….I AM AN OBAMABIGOT….
I have not heard anybody really bring this up:
Could it be that THE ONE has not been seen
at all for days because he is physically sick?
I heard a rumour a while back that he had chronic
cardiac problems, brought on by his tobacco smoking.
Cigarette smokers do not have much physical endurance. That’s a fact!
Women whose husbands chronically cheat on them have a higher rate of heart disease. Maybe we need to ask for Hillary’s medical records.
I dated your old man. After you were born.
Funny how Barry looks all tired out and Hillary doesn’t hey?
No. I just think he’s exhausted. The 60 year old woman tired him out. Again.
Then again he could be worrying about a few things. Like all those skeletons in his closet.
I’m sure he can hold out all all those gremlins till August aren’t you?
This if for the Obamanots… have you ever heard of McGovern? Well your man is about to become the 2008 McGovern. I’m a life long Democrat who voted GOP in 1980 when I couldn’t stomach Carter. Fast forward to 2008. If Obama is on the ticket then it’ll be another GOP vote for me. The sad fact is that I’ve talked to thousands of other Hillary supporters at the many fundraisers I’ve attended who are in agreement. I hate to tell Obamanots that they can’t win in MANY MANY States without our votes too. OBAMA IS A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT and that is going to be the biggest single most issue that is going to shut him down in November!
So you’ve heard from many Hillary supporters at her fund raisers who think Obama can’t win the general election? Wow, breaking news, you better call Fox so they can play their little gong and announce these findings! You’ve talked to thousands? Wow, your yap must be tired! Whew! I’ll take anybody but the shrill oak-ankled Hillary, so even if Obama loses the general, the country still wins.
Yes he is!!
Obama is a National security threat.
Would someone with his known associations be able to get a security clearance to say work with highly classified material??
Obama is a National security threat.
We have to wake up to the fact that the MSM and the Democratic party leaders are shoving Sen Obama down our throat. We cannot afford another 8 years of Bush clone nor can we afford a leftist radical in the White House. We need to convince Sen Clinton to run as an Independent.
Wait, but if she runs as an independent and wins, then we could have another 8 years of Bush/Clinton clone economic policies…the economy will not endure.
You must have been very young during the clinton presidency. The economy was fantastic. I made enough money on the market to set me up for retirement any time I want to go there. Most people would KILL to have Clinton’s economy back. If you were an adult you would have known that. You’re just a kid aren’t you?
By excluding certain States Obama is insulting ALL AMERICANS. It clearly points to how his mind works.Only 3.49% of the population are Black so - count the state out! Interesting Obama. Well, perhaps Obama is exhausted after all he has visited 57 States and had one more to go and could not get to Alaska or Hawaii. Oh, dear!
I am white. I am a college grad. I will not vote for Obama.
Isn’t your candidate the one who implied that the 96% of the state that is working class and white will not vote for him anyway? Then why do you care that he is not campaigning there?
Well said, Susan. Thank you.
And the reason why I won’t vote for Obama has nothing to do with race. I just don’t trust him. He is far too left for me.
Folks, here is something I don’t get:
Why do you care where Obama campaigns or not?
If he is not campaigining in W.Va. and Ky., that just leaves a clearer field for your candidate . . . and Lord knows she needs all the help she can get!
And if Hillary is right and Obama can’t get “working class white votes”, when why should he even try in two states that have basically no Black population and few college educated whites to count on?
good luck in the general election. too bad obama will not be the nominee. besides, his coalition is a losing coalition.
Isn’t it interesting that most candidates for the highest office at least pretend that they will be president of all of the people? Even George fucking Bush isn’t as arrogant as Obama. And that is going some.
LOL beebop, so true, so true.
Does anyone know, does Hillary have options if she is denied the nomination that is rightfully hers? Can she go to the convention anyway?
I feel incredibly betrayed by the DNC. The media pile on is bad enough, but the DNC hijacking the Party at this critical time in our country is UNFORGIVABLE.
The Obama surrogates has made race as an issue in this primary (with the blessings of the Obama campaign?) and race bait, too , as a counterpoint to whatever future controversies and scandals that Obama might have in the future. He has made race and race baiting the central portion of his campaign. It is with a certainty that Obama surrogates(with the blessings of the Obama campaign?) will answer every controversy and scandal with statements pertaining to race.
Remember the time when the Somali tribal dress that Barack wore in 2006 and was leaked thru the Drudge Report? David Plouffe immidiately accused the Clinton team of ’shameful offensive fear-mongering’. Then there is the op-ed of Orlando Patterson in the NY times which tried to put race in the 3am ad of Sen. Clinton.To qoute the 1st paragraph of the op-ed:
“On first watching Hillary Clinton’s recent “It’s 3 a.m.” advertisement, I was left with an uneasy feeling that something was not quite right — something that went beyond my disappointment that she had decided to go negative. Repeated watching of the ad on YouTube increased my unease. I realized that I had only too often in my study of America’s racial history seen images much like these, and the sentiments to which they allude.” And that is only the 1st paragraph.
Then there is the latest “brushing the dirt off the shoulder” incident which the Obama surrogates(?) has linked to the Jay Z song, “Dirt Off Your Shoulder”, a racially charged song (see this web link and judge for yourself.)http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/jayz/dirtoffyourshoulder.html
And now this:
May 9, 2008 — WASHINGTON - First it was Bill Clinton dismissing Barack Obama as just another black candidate winning South Carolina.
Now comes Hillary Rodham Clinton, splashing moonshine onto those smoldering embers by telling West Virginia voters that “hardworking Americans, white Americans” support her, not Obama.
So “hardworking Americans” who support Hillary are racists, then? If that is Obamas’ position, then my vote will be Hillarys’ and will write that name in the ballot. Otherwise, other voters will have to decide but not me.
This can be construed as race baiting tactics of the Obama team and surrogates. It only needs a spark.
Please forward to your friends because it is imperative that the American people know who the real Barack Obama is and the way it is seen by me is he wants the race card to be front and foremost always. This could be his strategy up to the GE ( in case he wins the primary) and, heaven forbid, up to the presidency ( in case he wins it.)
In order for me to change this perspective on Obama, he must prove to me by his actions that this perspective is wrong. Otherwise, it will just strenghten it.
Just when you think you have seen the worst that Donna Brazile has to say, you find comments like this at Politico.com:
During the debate, Donna Brazile, a DNC member from D.C. who was campaign manager for Gore-Lieberman in 2000, said: “I understand how states crave to be first. I understand that they’re envious of the role that Iowa and New Hampshire have traditionally played. And I understand that they would like to see if they can get the candidates to come down and … spend all of their time and the resources and fill their bars — oh, sorry, not the bars! — fill their farms and their barns up with people. But the truth is is that we had a process. … That vote will stand … and send a signal to the people of Florida – which includes my sister, who had to show not one, not two, but three forms of ID in 2000.”
Someone needs to pull her off stage. Her 15 minutes are long since over.