Do As I Say Not As I Do
By Uppity Woman on May 13, 2008 at 3:09 PM in Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, John McCain
A No Quarter story entitled These are Barack Obama’s Supporters, a writer from a staunch Obama site where the rest of us are not welcome discusses Hillary Clinton supporters and their complete unwillingness to vote for Barack Obama. For some odd reason, our willingness to vote for anybody but Barack Obama seems to come as some kind of surprise to them. Go figure. However, in the world of Barack Obama, this is some kind of punishable offense or something.
The big complaint is that we Hillary supporters are “threatening” to vote for John McCain if Obama is the nominee. First of all, to many of us, it’s not a threat, it’s a promise. There’s also a Write Hillary In site that is parked, just in case it is needed. Secondly, our unwillingness to vote for Barack Obama is not only our choice and our promise, but it’s our right. At least so far.
There is more than a little hypocrisy associated with the writer’s outrage over our promise. In fact, there are a number of posts at Obama sites that discuss exactly the same thing in reverse.
Apparently, as is the case throughout this primary season, Obama supporters firmly believe that it’s OK for them have feelings, but it’s not OK for a Clinton supporter to have the same feelings in reverse. This kind of puts the concept of future democracy under Obama into question, don’t you think? I mean, I sometimes get the feeling these folks are practicing. I kind of thought we were about to put the Bush Bully years behind us. But considering the comments made in response to the blogger as shown below, I kind of think “cancer” is definitely the appropriate word, but not in the way intended:
“We must separate loyal party members from counter-revolutionaries. The first shall inherit our glorious future. The second must be purged from us and history”.
-Mao Zedong 1953
We need to separate the 90% of Clinton supporters who are indeed good logical people and the Kool Aid Cultists like Jerome, Alegre, Lanny Davis, Susan Hu and Taylor Marsh.
The quicker we ditch these cancers, the better we all are.
I see. Thanks for clearing up what this Obama campaign really means.Talk about confirming our worst suspicions.
I thought you might like to see that there are indeed also cancerous Obama supporters, right there at the same complaining site, who have said the exact same thing! That’s correct. This blogger said “I will vote for John McCain if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic Nominee”. Apparently, they are a better marxist “cancer” than we are. See?:
When we Clinton supporters saw these tirades, did we write a diary full of hypocritical outrage against the blogger? Of course not. Because after all, we are still living in a Democracy and Barack Obama hasn’t as yet changed that. This kind of behavior does conjure thoughts of exactly what kind of “change” Barack Obama has in mind with respect to our government, doesn’t it? But as of today, it’s still legal to do whatever we want in a voting booth, right?
Personally, I thank God that the General Election is not a caucus and nobody can bully anybody about who to vote for. But as it stands right now, there won’t be any buses full of overly aggressive class-cutting Obama chanting students standing too close to the voting locations. Everybody will be able to vote. Disabled people who couldn’t withstand caucus will get to vote. The elderly won’t have to caucus or stay home. They get to vote. People who work on shifts, such as police officers, firefighters, nurses, and other people who work to keep our butts safe will get to vote for whomever they want at their convenience. Nobody will get to pick who they vote for in their absence. It all just takes a minute! Just like a democracy!
My final question is: How come it’s OK for an Obama supporter to say he would rather vote for John McCain than Hillary Clinton, but it’s not OK for a Hillary Clinton supporter to say she or he would rather vote for John McCain than Barack Obama? — without being insulted, hassled or accused of “threats”. Just wondering.
Having lived in America for a fair amount of time now, I always thought that discussing who you were going to vote for constituted a preference not a “threat”. At least that’s the way it’s been up till now.
I guess that the lesson here is that Obama people still think they can tell Clinton supporters what to do. Kind of a Double Standard they think they have going for them. This seems to be a pretty common tone during this primary season, so we are fairly oblivious to it. After all, some of us have fought bigger monsters than an Obama supporter. Some of us are even financially supporting some of them in our homes. So Good Luck With That.
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Is anyone listening to Ron Reagan on Air America right now? He is saying since HRC and Obama are just the same the only reason people are voting for Hillary is because they are racists. He is trying to get someone to call and explain why they are not voting for Obama.
Gee the Race Card. What a surprise. If you use your remote well enough, you can hear it every 15 minutes on TV.
They are not the same. Especially not in health care. And no it is NOT similar.
They are also not the same in that she isn’t chanelling Pakistan, domestic and foreign terrorists. Not to mention she’s not channeling Karl Marx.
Hmmm…….Uppity….I guess the reason it’s not okee dokey for you to promise not to vote for Obama because you are a CRACKER…Now if you were an African american it would still not be okee dokey but you would not be seen as racist….just as an uncle tom type assisting the CRACKER ESTABLISHMENT in the oppression….know what I mean ?
If you refuse to vote for Obama and are a woman….well then you are a feminazi…and if you are a man then you are either gay or pussywhipped or a racist….In OBAMA’S new world order….HYPOCRISY REIGNS…that is why these rules apply…..No Logic….Just Hypocrisy and nonsense…..Good Post
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Ron Reagan, PLEASE!!!Do not say that Obama is the same as Hillary!!!PLEASE!!!!
For over 30 years, we practically know everything about Hillary. She is a dedicated public servant, a FIGHTER, fighting for you & me. Obama is a COWARD!!!He refused to accept the one-on-one debate challenge of Hillary after the humiliating lost he got from the last debate ABC, April 16, 2008. They only had 4 debates between the 2 of them.They also differ in their policies.In character: Hillary is a patriotic citizen while it is the reverse for Obama.
Why I will not vote for Obama??
BECAUSE I LOVE MY BELOVED AMERICA !!!GOD SAVE AMERICA !!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!
I’ve heard that nasty piece of drek MR also call for the extermination of Muslims, as well. His familiarity with the body politic and, possibly human decency, is on a par with a hog’s mastery of calculus. If named Mike Johnson, he’d have to get off his fat behind and get a job, rather than playing at being a Bargain Basement (or, “Seconds Department”) Lardass Limbaugh.
Jonah Goldberg could give this oaf Civility lessons.
And you know what, all the people voting for barky are racists too.
90%+ AA vote. Loud and clear just like Rev Wright.
not this black person.
hillary all the way. you know they are in trouble when racism is all they’ve got
Might I ask you to expand on this?
I am disturbed by the imbalance and wonder after the motivation of why so many people (AA’S) are moving en block? I guess I am trying to understand the cultural psychology of this.
Anyone?
Very true. If someone is voting FOR snObama simply because he is black — then that person is in fact a racist.
I didn’t choose Hillary as my candidate because she is female — I choose Sen. Clinton because she is the BEST qualified candidate of the three left standing. And she has the stamina to carry on to the General Election and right to the WHITE HOUSE!
Remove race and gender — and just list experience and qualifications as well as detailed solutions to the massive problems America has — again the only candidate worthy of my vote is Hillary Clinton.
Unfortunately, prejudice against women, especially in positions of authority and leadership, has never been addressed in the media in anything like the detail and commitment that prejudice against blacks has been addressed for the past fifty years. Many Hillary supporters had repeatedly been described by the media as poor white people without a college education. She finally redefined them as hard-working white people. Obviously, she had to say white or she would be called a liar because the media have reported that 98% of blacks have voted for Obama. She was immediately castigated for making a racist remark. If a black candidate had said that hard-working blacks would vote for him, no one would have considered it racist.
when my kids were little, I complained to Junior Scholastic and Weekly reader because all of their icons were male.
Scholastic told me point blank that they do this deliberately because a lot of little boys will not accept a girl icon. But girls will always accept a boy icon.
Cricket Magazine had tons of stories all written by women, about little boys doing cool things.
The young readers writing in were always little girls.
Whenever a girl did pop up in Cricket, she was passively sitting in a swing or helping mommy bake cookies.
Evenutally, Scholastic added a girl. She was dull in her little cute corporate skirt, and blond corporate haircut. The guy was a cute floppy loveable puppy with lots of character in his face.
YECH. YECH. YECH.
Obviously, she had to say white or she would be called a liar because the media have reported that 98% of blacks have voted for Obama.
Exactly.
His comment is not worthy of a call in.
Sigh…this gets tiresome.
McCain: “Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.” (1998)
http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html
Townhall Participant: “How do we beat the bitch?” (referring to Hillary Clinton)
McCain: “That’s an excellent question.” (2008)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20071114/mccain-clinton-comment/
Voting for McCain is not a “protest” vote – it’s a way to work against:
-women’s rights
-gay rights
-a sensible foreign policy that involves getting out of Iraq
-fair taxation
-a sensible immigration policy
-the separation of church and state
-sound environmental policies
-progress on the health care issue
…and many more!
So, if you don’t get a chance to pull the lever for Hillary in the fall, and you can’t hold your nose and vote for Obama, for Pete’s sake use the write-in option. If you vote for McCain you have NO right to call yourself a feminist.
You are tiresome and you can’t possibly be a woman, because if you were you would recognize what a pig barack Obama is. This crap you are posting is small potatoes next to that pig and his sycophants such as you. What part of that are you having a hard time understanding
Yes I saw a blog post that said he must win at “all costs”. Let’s see how that works out for them in November when the electorate races to the polls horrifed at his assinine followers.
It’s not crap, and it’s not small potatoes. These are just two of the genuinely offensive statements John McCain’s made about Hillary and Chelsea; I just don’t know how you can possibly defend a man who says stuff like this. It’s repugnant and wrong and completely misogynistic.
Like I said: use the write-in option.
Kindly Don’t tell me who to vote for. And don’t tell me what offends me and what doesn’t.
So – do you forgive John McCain for agreeing that Hillary was a “bitch” and calling Chelsea Clinton “ugly,” then?
Well at least he didn’t mention his vibrating cell phone.
And his audience didn’t ask him about slitting Hillary’s throat and tossing her in the river.
Others may use write in, that’s their choice. this is still America whether you like it or not. I will vote McCain because it doubly spites you and Barry. How’s that?
Sad. That’s how that is.
I feel awful about that. just awful.
Excuse me, the link you cited plainly said “this is what was reportedly said but no tape exsits” It also says that no one would repeat the joke and none of the major newspapers would print it.
As a lifelong journalist, that says to me that the true context of the joke is not known and therefore just an unsubstantiated rumor that he said exactly what you printed here.
In my opinion, it takes a lot of nerve for an Obama supporter to accuse John McCain of being a media darling. If it wasn’t for FoxNews, most of America would still be swooning and thinking that Obama was the unblemished second coming of Christ.
I’m sure McCain apologized to Clinton just for the fun of it. Seems like his style.
Yeah it’s like when they said he called his wife a c*nt. No proof. Just anecdotal. Same crap from Obama. You can’t trust them. If anything proved that it’s this primary and the smarmy crap that was pulled to keep this jerk propped up.
At least it was only twice and not the infinite number of times Obama’s campaign and supporters have insulted the Clintons….we’ve lost track already.
We need to thank the &*&^% Trolls for coming here daily to remind us that
“The ONLY reason [we] won’t support Obama is that he’s an illprepared, arrogant, pampered, insincere, inauthentic, preening, bullshitting glass-jawed, half baked, credit-taking, sleazy, if-he’s-talkin’-he’s-lying egomaniac, backstabbing ingrate with a racial chip on his shoulder the size of Montana. Other than that, he’s okay I guess.
kqb | 05.08.2008 – 5:15 pm “
So – do you forgive John McCain for agreeing that Hillary was a “bitch”
Did you actually hear the exchange between Senator McCain and the questioner who asked how to “stop the bitch”? In fact he said, “I respect Senator Clinton. I respect anyone who gets the nomination of the Democrat party.” He did not agree with the questioner’s characterization.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJoRNJEewnU&feature=related
Exactly. As with Barack Obama, all of his sycophants are full of shit just like he is. They have no shame and they have no credibility, just like him.
And how can you defend a candidate for president of the USA’s wife saying that Hillary can’t be president because she can’t keep her house in order? That offended me more than anything John McCain has said, and the Rev. Wright humping the pulpit talking about Bill Clinton and Hillary ain’t ever been called ….give me a break, far, far more offensive to me. I expect it from the right wing, I did not whoever expect it from another candidate running for POTUS. ANd yet the media spins Hillary’s campaign as “going negative? Get real…
A) Michelle Obama isn’t running and B) that’s not what she said. She was talking about managing her daughters during the campaign:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200708220011
There’s been enough sexism to go around. That joke about Chelsea is over a decade old and he apologized (something Obama has never done). I don’t appreciate the townhaller’s comment, nor his response, but it is no worse than the crap that has come directly out of Obama’s mouth, his wife’s mouth, his surrogates’ mouths and the mouths of his supporters. Yet Obama has remained silent (except when he’s spewing sexist bullshit and race baiting) on these issues.
When you only have two blatant sexists to choose from, you choose the one with a clear record and experience, and not the one who claims to be a member of your party but will clearly govern from the Right. I’ll take an experienced Republican over an inexperienced, arrogant, hypocritical, corrupt, Democrat-in-name-only any day.
Giving the finger? Please. Don’t try to take the “moral” high ground for a hip hop artist … he is so disrespectful not just of Hillary Clinton but of all women by demonstrating in public how little he thinks of her and her efforts in this campaign.
JKFritz — got the message Obama is worried that we Hillary supporters will vote for McCain. Too late buddy, your boy thinks we are not good enough to vote in the Democratic Party now that you have a new and improved party–you don’t seem to need the base.
Obama watched as his people called Hillary every name under the sun and said nothing. The Clinton’s racist??? Thats what turned me off — so don’t think you can make nicey nicey with people like me. I will never vote for a man who hates a majority of Americans who are white. If you didn’t get enough of what he said about rural Pennsylvanians then you should read his books–he hates us pal. I don’t care if Obama stands on his head bowls 300 I will never vote for him.
Obama thinks he is the only guy that offers HOPE. Hope we got. All this fraud offers his hutspa.
How is what John McCain has said about Hillary any different than Obama? It seems that Obama has been every bit as bad. And Cindy has at least been nice while Michelle has been disgusting.
Obama is NOT for separation of church and state. He is for more of the same in that area.
You left out national security. The main reason any of us would vote for McCain would be national security. Anyone who hangs with terrorists like Obama shouldn’t be anywhere near the oval office. Also Obama is unqualified.
I don’t think a man who doesn’t know a Sunni from a Shiite is qualified to be anywhere near the Oval Office either. And I think that outside of McCain’s military record, his foreign policy choices – which are what matters – have been astonishingly poor. What particular national security credentials make you feel comfortable about McCain, then?
I don’t think a man who says we have 57 states should be anywhere near the White House. But, of course, we should forgive every misstatement that comes from the mouth of the great and powerful Obama while flogging McCain and Clinton for theirs.
Right. This is rich coming from a supporter of the candidate who suggested we INVADE and BOMB Pakistan. One of our ALLIES!!!
Yeah, thats what he suggested alright…
I think your toilets calling…
You seem to be full of……
Better run…
JKFritz — sounds like you are already into your GE bashing. Its not over for BO in the primaries. So keep bashing Clinton — its working so well for us.
Michelle Obama about Bill Clinton “I want to rip his eyes out”. Michelle Obama’s brother “Hillary Clinton is a disgrace to her gender. She is disgusting”. Obama senior advisor Susan Rice “Hillary is a monster”. Obama supporter Randi Rhodes “Hillary is a fucking whore”.
Obama mentor Reverand Wright – God where to start on the hate-filled diatribe he spewed against Hillary and Bill Clinton in church!
It goes on and on. If we were to list all of the evil that has been said against Hillary Clinton by Obama supporters in just the last few months it would take all night. It goes on and on, esepcially when you get to the blogs and MSM. CDS resides in the Obama camp.
So, McCain is pretty mild.
I would say that if you can quote Randi Rhodes, than obviously “Hillary Clinton Supporter” Uppity Woman has said things just as hateful about Obama. And I think you’re looking for Samantha Power with your third quote; Samantha was immediately canned for saying that.
I note that none of your quotes come from Obama himself. I’ll wait for something from him before I acknowledge that he is in fact more misogynistic than John McCain.
“Periodically, when she’s feeling down, she launches these attacks as a way to boost her appeal.”
“You’re likable enough.”
“When you fight against the status quo the claws come out.”
“She was always going to be the Democratic frontrunner because her name was Hillary Clinton and not Hillary Rodham.”
All from the mouth of Obama himself.
Don’t forget the flipping the bird incident. Excuse me, excuse me. It was an appropriately-timed face scratch. That’s what we’re calling it nowadays.
Just the fact that you folks are still pushing the face scratch turned ‘flip off JayZ routine’ show’s me just how;
1. Desperate ya’ll still are. (Remember, he was ‘done’ after scratching his, I mean flipping off Hillary)
2. That yes, the 30 to 40 regular posters who post here on a regular basis are yep.
Batshitcrazy.
Keep up the good work kiddies.
And just think: I’m SOBER when I say them!
God, you’re good.
I’da never have guessed.
You don’t think that giving Clinton the finger is mysogynistic enough for you? Oh wait, I’ll bet you think he was just scratching his face with his middle finger extended.
But one thing is true. Obama lets his surrogates do the majority of the dirty lifting. Then he can deny and naive people like you will believe.
In addition he pretends to be wipping dog shit off his feet while referring to “negative comments” from Hillary. So classlesss and juvinile. Same speech as the Middle finger “scratch”.
JKFritz — This is not the Cerebral Palsy Telethon it is a presidential primary race. Let Obama grow a ball then he might just have two like our Hillary.
It’s exactly behavior like yours that makes me NOT want to vote for your candidate if he is the nominee. You come to this site just to belittle Hillary supporters and stir sh&t up. How much does a paid blogger make per blog?
Go back to the BO campaign and explain to them that your actions alienate us more, not less…
We don’t HAVE to vote for anyone or we can vote or write in whoever we choose.
After the way I was treated at the Orange Satan, I honestly don’t know if I can ever vote for BO. If he brings out this kind of behavior in others, and does absolutely NOTHING to step forward and disavow this kind of behavior, why would I want four more years of the same kind of behavior.
I have been watching CNN and the BO supporters are whining about racism, wah, wah, wah, we couldn’t make calls because we got hung up on, people made rude gestures at us when we held up signs, etc., etc. everyone is so…..racist!!! These people really, really need to get over themselves. I supported Kerry in 2004 and you know what he was a white guy and people around here treated me the same dam way, but becuase BO is the “black candidate” it’s all about racism….I’m just about sick of the media and BO’s campaign talking about racism when 93% of the black voters voted for him in NC….is this not racist too? I’m about sick of his whole campaign…
His campaign has been divisive and race baiting from start to finish and I probably will NEVER, EVER forgive him for his false portrayal of the CLinton’s as racist and like the country wasn’t better off during the CLinton administration and even giving kudos to REAGAN.
When he apologizes to the CLintons for his, his campaign’s and his followers treatment of the Clinton’s, I’ll think about voting for him, can’t do that BO, well kiss my racist wh*te vote good-by.
If you’ll notice, my post didn’t actually advocate voting for Obama. Write in Hillary if you want.
That’s my plan, being as McCain will carry about 65% of the vote in my state. If I lived in a battleground state, I’d put country before party in a split second and vote for McCain. It isn’t the End of the World if McCain wins (I survived worse), and Obama isn’t the Second Coming.
I’m in Ohio. We WILL be a battleground state. I will have to look at the polling as it gets close. As I stand there, it may in fact be essential that I cast a ballot for McCain in order to ensure that Ohio goes Republican. God, I can’t believe that I am saying that. Hard to believe that four years ago Ohio could have made a huge difference.
Like who the hell or you to think we need your permission to write her in or vote for McCain or do anything else you want. Do Barky a favor Don’t apply for a job in Gender Relations. You are helping to get more votes for McCain on this board than I could ever achieve.
Everybody: A vote for McCain hurts Barky more.
And that is 100% of your voting interest, I guess, which pretty much says how much you care about where this country’s headed.
JKFriz..you should have thought of that before you supported a crook with little to no experience..except with his crook friends..
don’t try pawning off guilt on anyone but yourself..you have research tools at your finger tips..you didn’t use them..not my problem other than you have put this corrupt pig in a postion he should never have been put up to.
Look in the mirror for the blame game..
fly
EXACTLY..BY CHOOSING OBLAHMA..SUCH AN UNPREPARED FLAWED NEWBIE..YOU ARE THE ONE SHOWING HOW LITTLE YOU CARE ABOUT ISSUES AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
I care plenty. That’s why I am voting in it’s best interest in a way that will guarantee Barack Obama is never president. I would vote for Dracula if he were running against barack obama. Even he would be less dangerous.
Writing in Hillary doesn’t help Obama lose.
Voting against him does.
You don’t get it, do you ?
We’re out to deny your fake candidate office.
We dislike him so much we’d rather have a ( moderate ) Republican as President.
And why don’t you quit using John Kennedy’s initials?
That is an insult piled on your other insults.
The lesson is : Don’t insult your opposition or you will be the object of revenge.
If we voted for barky and he won, Obama supporters would as GWB considered winning by 1% a MANDATE to continue their disgusting and venomous behavior.
Have you noticed that all of the sudden, on the day that West Virginia voters are projected to give Hillary a win by a huge margin, that there are dozens of stories in the major papers and internet that imply that Hillary supporters are racist?
Now me, I don’t believe in coincidences.
First Obama calls us racist — now he realizes that he can’t win without us. What a pathethic piece of shit he is. I will not be guilty for wanting a president with experience–We have 2 wars going on and $5.00 gas by July. People are losing their homes and their jobs at record rates. Obama is nothing but a moaner. He lived his easy life and took from money from his fat cat pals to get by. Forgive me if I cannot feel sorry for Obama at this time but I have a life to live.
Sigh…. this gets ever so tiresome
Look you moron…we would rather vote McCain than Obama even with all the things you think McCain is for/against…He loves this country. I love this country..kos does not love this country…obama does not love this country and Meeesecelle hates everything about this country….Listen and listen good we will not vote for Obama ever and we will not write in Hillary .
WE WILL VOTE AGAINST OBAMA AND ALL HIS EVIL FRIENDS AND ALL THE HATE AMERICA CROWD…BY VOTING MCCAIN
There are more of us typical white folks then there are of you latte drinkers and we ALL vote …live with that fear . and your mega loss in November.
Mr. sawbuck, I’d suggest you look at poll after poll after poll that shows Sen. Obama leading over John McCain.
The latest:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/1064a208Election.pdf
Your final statement seems to be categorically untrue – unless you have some other proof to back it up.
THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT?
IF HES’S GONNA WIN ANYWAY WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU CARE WHO WE VOTE FOR!
Of course I’m worried about McCain being president. He’s not fit for the job. I want the Democratic nominee to annihilate him in November, and so does Hillary Clinton.
But you quote poll after poll that shows you that your buy is going to win. Trust in that and leave us alone.
You’ve done your job.
Well, Obama leads in many “popular polls” right now (before the nation has really seen him up close). But he isn’t leading in the Electoral College breakdowns. Oh, he’ll pop up for a day or two, but he consistently trails McCain in the EC.
The DNC’s “Big Urban Plan” didn’t work for Gore, it didn’t work for Kerry, and REALLY won’t work for Obama.
No Florida, no Michigan, no Ohio, no Pennsylvania. And no Wyoming, either. This election is a Divine Wind strategy by the DNC…. an Electoral Suicide Bombing.
Well, Obama is the underdog.
Really, the Republicans know how it works, they’re not used to taking it up the ass, though…
Some of Obama’s biggest supporters are Texas “Republican” oil men.
Why?
Thank You Scott you make perfect sense but then again we are not obama supporters we are smarter so indeed we make perfect sense… …Dukakis was up in the polls too how did that work out for them?????The country is basically conservative and there are more typical white folks with good old fashioned common sense than these morons ..so of course we will defeat then in the fall. If those polls give you comfort great…they will change so enough…and drop the JFK I am from Ma and you and Obama in no why should use those initials..you sir and your messiah are not even close.
kerry was up before and during the convention..and then hit the skids..a war hero mind you..not a fucking obama with mob ties and ties to a terrorist..and Iraqi money thiefs!…and nuke bundlers..
sobering numbers coming out of WV exit polls…dems voters exit poll this way..per CNN…Obama 36% McCain 35%.. 29% would not vote or vote for someone else…
Hillary would win by 51% by all dems to McCain 31%
go ahead trolls spin those freaking numbers…oh and no Pres has won without WV since 1916..
so spin away..
but these numbers are going nowhere..
and i would bet Florida’s numbers are worse fo Obamacrook.
Polls show Obama leading BEFORE the media shtikicking that’s in store for him. Waint until two three weeks after/if he gets nominated, and come back with your polls. Obama and his supporters will McGovernize the Democratic Party.
Fun times ahead for the Obama Cult. And a hell of a reckoning after November. Coount on it.
Michelle & Barack…. Tweedle dee and Tweedle dumb.
These Obama cultists have no ability to understand facts..less the American electorate. Americans will always end up voting for the individual that shares their love and respect for our country. They will never vote for someone who has shown so little judgment in choosing his friends. Guilt by association? YOU BET. Birds of a feather hang out together.
Stop by and see us in October.
“PLEEESEEE vote for Barry he’s the change candidate we can’t win with out you.”
I can tell you now the same thing I’ll tell them in Octoer/November when he’s down by 50 in the polls.
SCREW YOU.
I eagerly await the day when I can be the recipient of your witty ripostes. For now, I’ll take the lead in the polls.
Again what are you doing here still?
american sawbuck — right on. McCain was tortured by the North Vietnamese. He is a hero to me. He has earned the right to say what he likes. Obama hasn’t learned to wipe his own ass yet.
Why does Obama take money from Rezko, and Auchi, and big oil? See a pattern, shitheads, or all of you eat at the same table?
Qadaffi is petitioning, through big oil, Congress, to forgive the debts he owes to family members of those he murdered through terrorist acts, and the Congressional whores are gonna do it.
Are they that DUMB?
Truth.
That’s why I will never support the traitor.
So, calling people like Larry and Susan cancer, is this the equivalent of Mao calling Americans “Yankee imperialist dogs?”
This IS funny.
Poor K**.
Who funds K**, who pays the bills?
And how long has he really planned to pimp Obama?
You know, they know.
The lil gnat.
So, if you don’t get a chance to pull the lever for Hillary in the fall, and you can’t hold your nose and vote for Obama, for Pete’s sake use the write-in option. If you vote for McCain you have NO right to call yourself a feminist.jkfriz
For Pete’s sake, jkfriz,DO NOT TELL US WHAT TO DO,OK? We are smarter than you & your idol Barack Hussein Obama (his parents gave that name to him, not me!), who recently showed his being “high” by informing us that there are 57 states !!LOL!!Adding to an insult, he said that his Kenyan citizen father’s coffin was draped by USA flag!How dumb can that be??#$@%^&
Who are you to tell us what to do inside the voting booth?? I will be for the hero!For my country, the beautiful America, because I love her, I AM NOT VOTING FOR THE UNKNOWN OBAMA!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
Are you just slamming your hands on your keyboard? Honestly, I’m asking.
Thanks for asking,jkfriz.
YES!!!! BECAUSE, PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE SO BLIND AND S…..(FILL IN THE BLANK, I’M SO UPSET!)FOR HATING THIS BEAUTIFUL AMERICA, MY COUNTRY!!!
I LOVE AMERICA SO MUCH, THAT’S WHY I WILL NOT, NOT, NOT & MORE NOT VOTE OBAMA!!!
AMERICA DOES NOT DESERVE A LOW-CLASS, UNKNOWN PERSON TO RULE HER!!!
AMERICA, THE BEAUTIFUL, DESERVES THE BEST!!! SENATOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON IS THE NEXT USA PRESIDENT.
AMERICA IS SAFE IN HILLARY’S HANDS.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
The man is confused. He’s not used to working this hard for things.
Uppity — it really gets me that McCain suffered for a country he loved and Obama hates this country and most of us white people because he can’t bamboozle us as easily as he thought he could. I would like to see a ticket with Hillary and McCain — That would be a great ticket with two people who love America.
Wait until the MSM starts to pile on when McCain is the candidate the the weakest among his supporters start to freak out. And if a new video game is released on the same day, there goes the college vote for goodness sake … there aren’t enough concert tickets to bribe them all ….
You are tiresome. We didn’t buy your attacks against Hillary and there were many, so now you think this is going to move us? You folks are clueless.
If Hillary Clinton is not a choice in the general election, Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nadar are. I’m so sick of these people saying you must be a racist if you don’t vote for Obama. No one asks why over 90% of African Americans are voting for Obama. They are playing the race card and it’s obscene. I wonder what you arguement is for not voting for Cynthia McKinney would be?
John McCain and his supporters, nor anyone else have ever called me a racist or a bigot. Yet many Obama supporters did when I tried to explain the historical, and legislative significance of HRC’s remarks re MLK/LBJ. They continue to do so any time I express my unwavering support for HRC.
Nor have I ever heard McCain accuse HRC or WJC of being racists. He has the sense and a command of the past to know the idiocy of such. Not true with BHO, Michelle, or their backers.
Never heard Cindy McCain say she wished to claw WJC’s eyes out, etc. On and on, the Obama campaign is about pernicious insults, race baiting, and holier-than-thou platitudes.
Obama supporters have denigrated HRC and us at every turn, and continue to do so. I would never cast my lot with them under any circumstance. Never a vote for Obama! I would fell much more comfortable with McCain if it comes to that.
Obama supporters have been “threatening” to riot in Denver if their candidate is not coronated – right now dammit.
Hillary Clinton’s supporters state we will vote for someone else in the GE. We are not a bunch of lawbreakers or children threatening to throw a tantrum if we don’t get our way. We just do not like or trust the guy and refuse to vote for him him.
Yet we are being called divisive and threatened with being thrown out of the Democratic Party. Well, I already left.
WHo cares what they say? I have no respect for them. Or him.
My MOM, myself, my Daughter, My 2 Aunts and ONE Uncle will also be changing to Independent the MINUTE they hand over the crown to BHO and his wussie loser followers.
(Kerry,Kennedy,Leahy, deedeedee)
no longer represent OUR beliefs or traditions (they don’t even come close)
we’re FIGHTERS
we’re TRUTH TELLERS
we’re PROUD AMERICANS
they are daydreaming their foamy latte minds into a FIT of OVER compensation for the train wreck that was GW DOUCHE and COMPANY.
u go girl
we’re FIGHTERS
we’re TRUTH TELLERS
we’re PROUD AMERICANS
i am proud of all of us
Dawnelle
Our family has already done what you and your family are planning to do…after nearly a half century we are all out of the Democratic party.. It does not represent anything of FDR or JFK..it is a foreign party to me now…. It feels really good to be an independent…go for it…
Typical of Obama supporters — they are going to throw a temper tantrum. Well let em — let the world see that this is what happens when Obama doesn’t get his way. I am so sick of these moaners.
Better the devil you know than the one you don’t know. Bo is an unknown with some old school power brokers looking for their last chance at control. I don’t trust him. McCain is more of a moderate than he appears. That’s why the republicans aren’t thrilled about his nomination.
If we are sucessful in holding/adding dem seats in the House and increasing senate seats by 5-8, we can control both and have a good chance of over-riding vetos.
That will be enough for me if McCain wins.
I’m not interested in assimilating with middle eastern attitudes toward women and life. I’m not interested in assimilating with Michelle Obama either. I’m not interested in assimilating with the Nation of Islam either. I’m definitely not interested in assimilating with Jeremiah Wright. And I’m particularly not interested in assimilating with Pakistan or Palestine. Or Hamas. And for sure, I am not interested in living through a regime that holds those two maniacs Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn in high esteem. I lived through the carnage of those two assholes once already.
No thanks. I’ll take McCain.
My sentiments exactly. Been there …done it…. seen it …Carnage is the correct word.
Agree.
I honestly believe McCain has been replaced and is now a Pod Person.
Let’s not get carried away with the hyperbole. The threat really isn’t Obama, it’s the “New and Improved” McCain. I’m not a fan of Obama at all, I think he’s a total fake, but better a fake than a senile old man wearing adult undergarments.
As opposed to some cretin with big oil, propping up Obama, to go after African oil, as the middle east is running out, and Africans have been recpetive to China and Russia?
You’re kidding right?
Both are horrible and big oil WILL crash, but please read.
OK, fine:
http://www.mccainsource.com/homefront?id=0001
Campaign Donations From Industry Players:
* McCain has Taken At Least $720,613 from the Oil & Gas Industry. According to a Public Campaign Action Fund analysis of campaign finance data provided by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics Center, John McCain accepted at least $720,613 from the oil and gas industry since 1989. [Center for Responsive Politics via Campaign Action Fund]
Voting Record: McCain Sides With Big Oil:
* McCain Voted for $5 Billion in Tax Breaks for Big Oil. In 2006, McCain voted for the conference report on H.R. 4297, which included $5 billion in tax breaks for big oil. McCain voted for the conference report, even though Republicans added back in two tax loopholes that have allowed the oil industry to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. The conference report passed 54-44. [H.R. 4297, Vote #118, 5/11/2006]
Don’t you get it?, Are you that stupid?.. NO obama not now ..not ever no matter what McCain does he is an American..who knows what obama and his crowd are . Certainly not good Americans..It comes down to that.. all the rest of the stuff does not matter…McCain is still a hero vs obama the manchurian candidate..No barry h obama
Your requirements for a qualified presidential candidate seem to be limited to “I think he’s a good American” and that’s it.
Tell me which of his policies you agree with.
“Good American” is not a sufficient qualification; it’s a necessary qualification. Get it?
american sawbuck — Obviously these people have not read Obama’s own writings. He hates white people and his pals hate America, but he claims we are all racist against him. Once again our Liberal pals want to throw a slug at the rest of us because it makes them sleep better at night.
I agree, if the nominee is McCain I will vote for him because McCain is an American who loves this country. He has been in the Senate for many years and has the experience to lead this country.
However, I am still praying that the candidate is Hillary.
Perhaps you could cite a writing or two that backs you up here.
McCain and Hillary did NOT vote for the $5 billion in tax breaks for big oil in 2003. Obama says that they did but he is lying. The only one who voted for that bill of the three is Obama.
Check it out if you don’t believe me, which I’m sure you don’t.
Who are the individual players?
Oil has it’s hands in everybody’s pocket, to what extent do they OWN the politician, and how do they plan to use them?
Obama is strictly pay to play.
McCain, don’t know.
Either way, oil falls.
A lil more analysis please, youre generalities kill the cat.
Do you think Obama would be worse than McCain?! We’ve all heard him joke about bomb-bomb-bomb Iran; McCain now thinks torture is just fine! As bad as Obama would be, McCain is virtually running on a promise of a third Bush term.
I’d tolerate McCain, if and only if, there was a strong Democratic controlled Congress; otherwise it has to be Obama. While not tied at the hip with Obama’s fortunes per se, my hope is that Obama slime doesn’t wear off onto Congressional candidates once the GOP 527 hate machine starts rolling.
That’s why Hillary supporters have to vote Democratic on the rest of the ticket no matter what. Don’t vote for Obama. I don’t blame anyone but make sure there is a strong Democratic presence in Congress before even considering voting for McCain.
You’re shilling for Obama?
You dont do a very good job.
Do you think you’re speaking to cretins?
Maybe you should read the earlier posts.
Yes I do, another weak President co enabled and co dependent on the same Party Puppet Master in power in both houses who are willing to inflame and divided through peevish arrogant grievances will distract for the real work and cause drama and further decline. Think about it since Dems gained the majority, the only thing dead on arrival have been tax cuts , not Iraq, not run away trade, not regulation relief not fisa.
I don’t like either one of them and I don’t have to vote for either one of them. I have other options.
As for the Democratic party. Who cares about that? They abandoned the core values of the party to support an empty suit who could give a speech. Rather like supporting a snake-oil salesman or used car salesman for president and working to destroy and bury the candidacy of the woman that the core value voters support.
As far as I’m concerned, the DNC stands for nothing. And if you stand for nothing, then no one will stand with you.
I can never vote for a man who hangs with people who hate America. Nothing is worse than that.
Well so long as Karl Marx isn’t a problem with you, go for it.
That’s not a fair comment. We already have racism and sexism, so we’re going to add ageism, too? Maybe we weren’t far enough along in our sociological development to have a black man and woman competing for the presidency, and that’s we find ourselves teetering on this precipice. Maybe we should wait until we’re mature enough to handle it.
Yeah, i have one of those 26yo Obamaphytes in my house. He lost his job 4 weeks ago. He says he has spent hours on line filling out applications and has yet to find a job. GO FIGURE!!
He, like so many of these Obamaphytes, thinks that the HOPEY CHANGEY land of opportunity is going to walk right up to his door and hand him all that he thinks he is entitled to. I don’t know crap about anything when i tell him that he needs to go find opportunity. It isn’t going to come to him.
He thinks that all the glorious things that Lord Obama promises (HOPEY CHANGEY) are just around the corner and that all his followers will reap the deserved benefits of being Obamaphytes.
Today, he was given an ultimatum: find a job or find another place to go.
Perhaps there is a place for all these young Obamazoids to live so that that hope and change thing will find him. This house is built on realities and the reality is, you have to find it.
He probably has a resume that says he wants to be Lord of Your Company.
I don’t know, Uppity, it’s online. have not seen one printed out. But it is a possibility.
troy you are SO not alone!
ANYBODY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT TURNOUT
and if any exit polls available
Fox was told turn out is heavy.
wow
thats great
i really -really wold like to see a 35+ point lead
would not that be fun
Well they do have republicans voting for Barky. I guess it’s ok when they do it for him, it’s just not ok if they do it for Hillary. See Indiana.
Anyways, they want Barky to win because they can eviscerate him over his shady and dangerous connections.
No, they cant eviscerate him, I think they’re depending on that, but there is a new threat here, and they can’t recognize it, being the good republicans they are…
Explains a lot, and also MIGHT explain WHY some of the sharper republicans are supporting Clinton.
What is the ‘new threat’? Stop talking around it and just come out and say it, please.
I have no idea who I will vote for in November if Obama is the candidate. I might just stay home. All I know is that he and his supporters have a lot of work to do to convince me to vote for him.
Please do not stay home. You have options. It is important to show your vote in the count. You can write Hillary in. You can vote for Mccain. You can vote for Nader if you want. Or you can write Mickey Mouse in. But please vote.
Yeah, don’t punish down ticket Democrats because of Obama. If McCain does get in, there needs to be a strong Democratic Congress to limit the damage he can do.
Also as many women as possible should vote and make sure they understand that we know the power of our block. Very important.
Am I in the dreamland??
God forbids, that Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee, can Hillary be declared the next USA President, when she wins in November general election by write-ins?
If yes, then let us make it happen. If not, do not waste vote, defeat Obama, by voting McCain, my humble opinion. That is what I’ll do.To vote for Obama is to vote for his questionable, shady campaign advisers. Why risk America? Red flag!!!
Well yes if a write in got the most votes. But plenty of people don’t understand the processa and most people hate change. They want to vote the way they always do.
I agree. A write-in vote won’t help as much as a vote against Obama. Don’t split the votes. Create an overwhelming tide AGAINST Obama. Vote McCain now, and Hillary in 2012
BS.
It doesn’t matter how the vote goes, the last two elections were most likely stolen.
And Obama’s group wouldn’t do it to McCain, given the strength of the mid eastern players, and the Russians, in the US, over the past 7 years?
Oil’s most excellent adventure enabled a lot, in addition to it’s own death.
You are in candy land if you don’t see how they plan to play McCain.
If Obama sets it self up like the Iraqis, say, to the typical republican line of attack, you’ve lost.
Understand the theory behind the moves in Iraq, can you see the bigger game?
Apparently not, given how the US is doing, and you, a republican.
I see many republicans confidently looking at the 527’s thinking OK, we will beat him with this, sound familiar, like you’re being set up, to fall? You know the drill.
Sure seems like it to me…
I want big oil to fall, either candidate, McCain or Obama, they shoot themselves.
Don’t get me wrong. I am a Hillary supporter and I vote Independent (not Republican, bamaoil).
I want Hillary to win, but I’ll vote McCain over Obama.
I thought that’s what this whole thread is about…
I am still hanging in there with Senator Hillary Clinton.She needs us to the end. The full scale of humiliation she is enduring for us, must be overcome by our full support to her goal of helping ALL of the Americans.
The latest humiliation recieved from Kennedy (”You can’t be Obama’s VP!!), report of Obama’s big donors’ paying (?)her $20 million debt, Obama’s pre-victory party on May 20, 2008,etc.)
Hillary is America’s President!!!
Make sure you vote for candidates not supported by big oil.
Good luck on that. Even Kucinich got Big Oil money. Nothing wrong with taking corporate money if you turn around an clobber them anyway. Do I think Obama would do that?
Well, you have to do what is right.
Given how they conduct business, their own viet nam, it won’t matter, in the end.
Can you KINDA see it?
A lot to absorb, better to make it someone else’s problem.
And you can bet it is…
No just punish the down ticket dems that support him!
Patrick — as a lifelong Democrat who has never voted for a Republican what troubles me is that my party seems to have bought into Obama’s bullshit hook, line and sinker. Look at Teddy Kennedy — who is older than dirt saying that Hillary is part of the past and that she has no leadership qualities. What is he THE FUTURE? Hypocrisy reigns.
Teddy was always the Loser in the Kennedy Family. They dragged him along. His entire history is of a guy who won the sperm lottery. Indeed he got past the life guards in the gene pool because his two brothers made him look like a dunce. History on this guy goes all the way back to being tossed out of college for cheating. The only reason this guy is a senator is because he shares DNA with two great men. If not, he would surely have been sucking wine from a box under the tracks.
Yes. You can vote for Cynthia Mckinney of the Green Party. You’d be sending a message and she’s a progressive to boot.
However, we all need to vote Dem downticket to keep a balance of power between the Congress and the Presidency.
I completely agree.
ok me too
I plan on voting for dems in downticket races, regardless of what I do or don’t do for president. I think it is imperative that we have a dem majority in the senate and house…but at the same time I am totally and completely disgusted with the dem party as a whole. I am very glad that I am registered unaffliated. I had plans to change my affiliation this year to dem, not for a million dollars now…
Uppity you are absolutely right. I PROMISE not to vote for Obama in November. In fact Axelrod could offer me $1,000,000 and I would still not vote for Obama. I’m an American first, and this man should not be allowed to walk on the White House lawn as far as I’m concerned. He has used criminal tactics to win most of his delegates. He has race baited repeatedly. He has lied more times than I count. He has associated himself with radical un-American people throughout his life. His arrogance is so appalling that he is only concerned with himself, and has not interest in what is good for America or what is good for us Democrats. I will not condone this behavior with one blood cell in my body. Obama and his supporters can go to hell.
i love blogging here and all pro-hill websites
today i feel little empty
i had to boycott hillis44
buut iguess its ok
i still have a lot of good blogger friends here
who follow hill,s policy of forget and forgive and move on with eyees on the prize
Should Hillary lose the nomination I will leave the Democratic Part after 46 years and vote for Cynthia McKinney. Barack Obama is no more than a shill for Wall Street and Corporatist America just as George W. Bush was for the Republican Military Industrial Complex.
Just so long as you DO vote. It’s important to hurt him with as many votes as possible so that his ass is handed to him on a plate.
I completely agree on all counts, annakarenina!
Uppity Woman wonders: How come it’s OK for an Obama supporter to say he would rather vote for John McCain than Hillary Clinton, but it’s not OK for a Hillary Clinton supporter to say she or he would rather vote for John McCain than Barack Obama? — without being insulted, hassled or accused of “threats”.
Because not voting for Gutter Ball is racist. Always. (snark)
Remember: Only 2209 delegates is legit!
Oh yeah that’s right. I forgot! Gee we haven’t seen the Race Card on this forum in at least 20 minutes have we? If I had the time to just monitor every post, I would use a stop watch and post the time lapses.
I think it would be a great project just to have a good laugh because it’s not only not working anymore, it’s annoying the electorate. Isn’t that wonderful?
Quite satisfying, actually.
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=2388
Will the media’s love affair with Barack Obama continue as he faces off against McCain?
The Right Wing owned media will turn on Barky like a junkyard dog. They will leave Olberman and Matthews to fondle themselves behind their desks during their segments though, just because they will want to look “fair”.
Remember, they gave us George Bush. Twice.
No. The MSM never turns on the Republican candidate so their only alternative is to drag Obama over the coals.
The MSM loves to pump people up into fantastic public figures, then chop their legs out from under them and gossip about them on their way down.
Boy, it just sounds so prosaic.
Oil owns those media outlets, or has deals with them, and they want into African oil.
So I disagree.
And support for McCain has been tepid.
Who does Cheney favor, anyway, really?
I still think that this time is different. Obama is the “Chosen One” of the powers that be. They want him to be the one to keep the Democrats in line. HA! That will be the day. I believe they wanted a charasmatic leader to oversee the economic catastrophe looming. Obama will make the little people sacrifice so the fat cats can rape the country some more. He will try and convince us to privatize social security, have endless war. It will be much easier to muster support from democrats to thwart McCain than it would to try and stop Obama from the left. He would run over the Dems and get no grief form the GOP, except lip service because he will be doing their bidding.
Everyone, take a second to go vote.
http://elections.foxnews.com/
sonia, I just did. Thanks for the info.
“How come it’s OK for an Obama supporter to say he would rather vote for John McCain than Hillary Clinton, but it’s not OK for a Hillary Clinton supporter to say she or he would rather vote for John McCain than Barack Obama?”
YEAH!!!!!!!!! And, you can count on the fact that my “threat” is not a “threat”, but is indeed a promise. Well, it’s either that or not voting and I am so repulsed by the idea of Obama being president, I want to make sure that my non-vote doesn’t help him weasel his way on in.
You have to vote sister. It’s important to send the man the painful message he deserves.
I know. I know.
You can do the Hillary write in if you want. Personally I am going McCain because it hurts Obama even more.
THE CANDLES WITH PRAYERS:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=…
Now I keep hearing that on June 3, Hillary will decide if she’s staying in the race or not. I thought she said she would take it to the convention floor? Or are these pundits and the press putting words in her mouth?
She will fight for us till the convention floor. Hopefully, her debt of $20 million will be paid for before then. Obama has no money problem. I do not believe what he is saying that his money is coming from the grassroot supporters. PHONY!!!
Vote in AOL poll
Hillary is ahead. Let’s keep her there.
http://www.news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/05/12/a...
Quiet Riot”
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/quietriot?e
OREGON AND KENTUCKY – YOU’RE NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE NEED TO WIN THESE CONTESTS EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO COME ON TEAM
VOTE SMART – VOTE HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hillary is my hero!
My warrior!
My light!
My president!
When obama came out in January and said “I would get Hillary supporters, but she won’t get my supporters” the little obamabots were all over the internet saying they would never vote for Hillary.
Well obamabots these aren’t threats, obama will never win the general and you all have your messiah and yourselves to thank for that. I respect McCain a HELL of a lot more than could ever for obama and his witch wife, and i trust McCain to do the right thing, unlike my distrust of obama the most divisive, vile, vicious, and egotistical SOB that I have seen in a LONG time.
Yes!!!! He surely did say it and the footage of it doesn’t lie. Well, IF the big eared bastard gets the nomination (sorry, I’m worked up right now lol) he can count on his statement being a lie, because I will be at least ONE of her supporters who he doesn’t mesmerize.
i saw someone write this on hillary blog site —–
143 days…
Obama had served just 143 days in the senate from the time he was sworn in to the time that he announced an exploratory committee for the presidency….as Hillary says it is a “Hiring Decision” – so would you hire someone for the most important job in the world with 143 days experience?
\saw it on Taylormarsh.
Whoopi has someadvice for all of us—today, tomorrow and for the rest of this process.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M
I cry every time. Damn you, Sonia
Bravo!
amen to that!
Every voter matters.
As far as I am concerned, everyone can vote for whoever they want. Barack supporters can vote for McCain if Hillary somehow shanghais the nomination from the candidate who has won the most states, won the most delegates, won more votes and raised more money . . . after all, to think that the number of votes you get is an accurate gauge of your support is . . . curious, no? And Hillary supporters can vote for McCain and feel good in knowing that Roe v. Wade was put out to pasture with their tacit support. So have at it Hill folks! Vote for McCain. but if you can’t get a smazbortion when you need one, don’t blame Barack!
Oh shut up “B-Rob”! You guys were screaming that you’d vote for McCain months ago, so cease the noise Obamazoid! Howard Dean has “shanghaid” this entire party and that’s the reality of the situation.
I will vote for McCain over Hillary because he would be a better president than her. And I would vote for Obama over McCain for the same reason. My reasons have nothing to do with thinly veiled racial (oh excuse me . . . “electability”) concerns. It is about who is the smartest, most talented person who stands the best chance of getting us out the ditch Hillary helped put us in in Iraq.
R-Bob
You are now trying to make “electability” concerns into racism.
Every time I think Obama supporters cannot sink any lower.
I think Obama is incomptent. I think he lacks judgment. That does not make me racist. Really. This is beyond the pale.
Click. Stop the watch. We haven’t seen the race card in nearly a whole hour! I think that’s a record!
It was so pleasant in here all morning…and then THIS CRAP plops in. Phew, what a smell!
Or should I say, this turd “BRob”s in?
BRob – verb, BRobbed, BRob·bing, noun, adverb
–verb (used without object)
1. to make a sound like that of something falling or dropping into water: A turd brobbed into the toilet.
Furthermore, B-Rob, do you think that being able to get an abortion is the only consideration we all have to make when deciding on who should run this country? More sexism!!! Go to hell!
What a dumb conclusion! Reread what I wrote, knucklehead! I just said that you will be kissing abortion rights away. If that is OK with you, vote McCain. If not, vote Obama. He at least trusts women to make the best decision for their own self. Though the smarts you show here makes me wonder whether you need a guardian . . . .
Uh… not to put my foot in it or anything, but wouldn’t it be the Superior Court that would over-turn Roe v. Wade?
And wouldn’t any judge nominated by McCain to the post of Superior Court Judge have to be confirmed and appointed by the Senate Judiciary Committee?
And, if I’m not completely mistaken, isn’t the Senate (and the House, come to think of it) majority Democrats?
So, how could simply voting McCain over-turn Roe v. Wade without the explicit assistance of the Democratic Senate?
Just 4 years ago, many Democrats were encouraging Kerry to choose McCain as a running mate. Many of those same Republicrats who have taken over the Democratic Party now.
Just a couple of years ago McCain was viewed as very moderate and acceptable for a part in Kerry’s administration by these same people who now demand that we vote for a nincompoop who doesn’t know how many states therre are.
At least our capital won’t be run by Chicago mobsters, anti-Americans,terrorists and other assorted slime.
R-Rob — that Roe V Wade conumdrum is so old it has whiskers. Republicans have been in charge for most of the last 30 years and Roe V Wade lives on. Get a new meme — Donna Braz is using that one to beat us over the heads with and she ran Gore’s campaign into the ground — nough said.
If you are not from OR, use these Zips to find newspapers.
97103, 97005, 97330, 97701, 97030, 97128, 97501, 97501, 97201, 97477.
If any bloggers here live in OR or nearby states, please consider going to an OR campaign office to work for the primary there.
Uppity..
All That about The General elections and how the Caucus system was Abused and unfair to the general voting Public is Right On..
We are seeing a new type of Militancy within Organized Politics that we have never seen before..
After the 60s…The Really Militant arm of the Prtotest Movement..that shouted HO HO HO CHI MIHN..said they were going Underground and were going to Infiltrate Our System and work from within..they all put on suits and ties and dress’s and got busy…
Even the republicans have strange Policys now that are Destructive to the Best interests of the United States..and One has to question Why..was the Infiltration in the Republican party more COVERT..
because it had to be so it wouldn’t attact attention..??
Why wouldnt Marxists try to Infiltrate BOTH Partys…Look at the Strange Politics of Liberman and McCain..What are They anyway..??
The Infiltration of Marxist leaning liberals in the democrat Party has been more OVERT..It is expected that the democrats would have all kinds of Progressives and Liberals…from Conservative..to Moderates to far “LEFT”..
Why is it always “THE FAR LEFT..” even when they are known Communists or Marxists..??
Now..The Chicago TRINITY..Muslim NOI..Black Liberation and Jewish Activists…)has Trotted out thier
“MESSIAH”..(even Farrakahn considers him thier Messiah) to test the Public Political waters..and see how well He woulds do…Since he is thier Best “POLITICIAN”…
I think the best they Hoped for was a VP Spot on Hillarys Ticket in the In..and Hope to Infitrate the Executive branch of the United States Government that way..think about it…What are the Odds that Obama would lead the Party ..??
He was packaged and sold TOO Well by Axelrod..and I think Axelrod has done the People of the united states a Favor..by Over selling Obama.
Now ALL the attention is on Obama and His Organization…His background, his Mentors and Associates…and Huess What…They are all some kind of either radicals, revolutionarys, Marxists, Communists, Terrorists or Racial Activists..
Thanks to Axelrod…The whole CHICAGO Netwrork is being Exposed..and Hopefully will be Brought Down under the PATRIOT ACT..by someone who will act responsibally in the GOVERNMENT..
Remember..It was because would Not PROFILE People from the Middle east..no matter how bizzzare thier behaviour or what terrorist group they were know to Associate with.. that Caused 9/11…
I will Never Vote for anyone who has a Background Like Obama..with friends and Associates like His…He has spent his whole Life ASSOCIATING with them..BY CHOICE,…
They are Not DEMOCRATS..they have Infiltrated a Great American Political party..(MINE) and are trying to BUY thier Way to the WHITE HOUSE…
I’m Disgusted with “THE FAR RIGHT & FAR LEFT”
America Deserves better..This isn’t what Our nation was Founded for…It what our Founding Fathers FEARED MOST..
It’s not the first time Marxism was tried in the party. All it succeeds in doing is embarrassing the party in the GE. The MAJORITY of the party is not loud and obnoxious like the far left. They are a fringe party that can’t make it on their own so they keep trying to bully the democrats every now and then. Think McGovern. Think Dukakis. Frankly they should be run out of the party, not the rest of the people. They embarrass us every single time. People do not want to be socialists. They do not want to be Marxists either. They want to be Americans in a Democracy. Thus, the silent majority gets ticked off every single time and blows their butts to high heaven by voting Republican. And it’s always an ugly result. I mean downright humiliating. This humiliation marginalizes the party for years, until a moderate shows up and the people rebel and say THAT IS WHAT I WANT! If plenty of people knew what they know about Obama now before their Primaries they wouldn’t have voted for him. Then they stacked it by dumping the revotes of two states. The man is a FIX. A very DUMB fix. These anti American morons, both here and in the middle east are downright offensive to America and they are the reason why Democrats have only elected TWO presidents in the past 30 years.
Uppity…Thanks for the Feedback…I agree with everything you said..and it means alot when YOU Say it…
I know that YOU KNOW what you are talking about..
I Hope they have made a big Mistake with all this EXPOSURE..and They Need to get Out of thier Holes.. VAMPIRES don’t survive in Sunlight..
William Ayers should be the First Citizen to made an Example of and brought to Justice..
I will never be satisfied until My Government has the Guts to do that to him..
Everyone can sense that not just America, but the Whole World is heading for now Heading for a
Big, Unavoidable ShowDown..
Maybe the Whole World will be Decieved now..I just Pray the United States will Stand up to the decievers and Expose them..
Be Stll…and Know..
absolutely — Patrick Henry ^5
You know I had a Political Science Professor — years ago and he wanted to be a CIA agent. But he couldn’t pass the Back ground check — because his GRANDFATHER started or was the owner of Yellow Cab in NYC — or some such company which was considered — Leftish. He couldn’t be a CIA agent — so he got a degree in PolSci and taught college students.
Who his Grandfather happened to be, was not my teacher’s choice.
But Obama choose his Mentors, his Minister and his friends. Using this same criteria used for my teacher — could Obama make it as a CIA agent? Obama’s associates are his CHOICE and the reflect on his character and who he is and what he intends to do.
Quiet Riot”
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/quietriot?e
use the link
Did you see the new video by the people (Geek) that made Mad as Hell? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke64670GkZ8 about the sexist crap
yheitman
And this is just the campaign period. Wait what kind of attitude they will have when they seize power. Hope all level headed Americans realize this.
I don’t believe in voting for McCain if Sen Clinton is not nominated. We have to convince her to run in GE with or without the support of the party elders.
politics — that is what I’m praying for. I want to see Hillary run as an Independent. No one is talking about the things she is talking about and no one will help the people like she will. The media will try to destroy her but what else is new? So why not go for it. God love that wonderful girl.
Obama’s candidacy just reminds me that every 20 years or so the far left needs to get smacked REAL HARD. The far left will NEVER choose a presidential candidate who will go on to win the general election. Far too many Obama supporters are too young to remember McGovern in 72 or Mondale in 84 or even Dukakis in 88.
Isn’t it ironic that if you take away Carter in 76 (who only won because Ford pardoned Nixon) and the 1960 election where Kennedy’s father apparently stole Illinois for his son, that the only elected democratic presidents of the last 60 years were William Jefferson Clinton and LBJ? Two tough Democrats who weren’t afraid to do what it takes to win.
According to the American Conservative Union, Obama’s career rating is 7.67, making him the 17th most liberal Senator. Hillary’s rating is 7.71, making her the 18th most liberal Senator. If he is “too far left” to be elected, then the same goes for her!
It’s not about a far left candidate, it’s about the far lefty supporters.
left of center — well said. ^5^5
Silly why we would waddle in line for another Party puppet from a fraud Primary, isn’t that how we ended up with George Bush also favored by the tingle up my leg want to have a beer with tabloid punditry talk shows boys and beltway press. Voting for Obama would be the wrong thing to do the wrong thing for our country. It may be official next week who knows, but both Party’s lost to their fringes their Base betrayed by the DNC artificially propping up Obama who has not been elected by the base, if you have not, its time to jump ship and dump Party identities. Time for the disaffected non neo con and Christian right crowd and the white, working class, seniors, women and Hispanic’s new Party in the middle combined and not divided by faux wedgies, to emerge and show their power.
FOX WV exit polls
72% say they will not be satisfied if Barack Obama is the nominee.
24% will be satisfied if Obama is the nominee
44 percent of WV voters say they definitely will NOT vote for Barack Obama.
No surprise. It is not an Obama demographic: not educated, not middle class, and NO historic minority population. He loses there for the same reason Hillary got her ass kicked in much-more-populated Maryland: demographics.
The difference is Maryland will vote for Hillary or any democrat in November but WVa has voted for Repubs the last two elections — they will NOT vote for Obama. Not very politically savvy, are you?
translation:
they’re all racist redneck hillbillies… is that what you’re implying?
that comment was in response to BRob, not pm317. Just wanting to clarify
B-Rob — you think its all about constituancies and I think its all about the American people. Obama cannot and will not get white voters in the GE period. He committed the cardinal sin — he admitted to hating white workers. Now he will pay the price. No Democratic candidate has ever been reviled in this way before. Obama has no one to blame but himself. He who defiles his house shall inherit the wind. Its going to get mighty windy for the big BO in the next few weeks.
Differences between Obama and Clinton? She helped Bill design a national legislative agenda that reversed damages of three republican admins, turned deficit into surplus, created a massive economic boom, and improved almost every statistic in the book. She went to the mat for universal health care against overwhelming opposition and was willing to suffer a crippling defeat. He won’t support universal care even when the dems enjoy huge political capital. He knows zilch about policy formation, ruined Clinton bipartisanship with Wright and BitterGate, and recites a dated liberal wish list that will do nothing to solve current problems.
She would win the ge by a larger number, enjoy a greater mandate, and be able to govern effectively and advance the progressive agenda for years to come.
He’s a creation of corporate media, and would fail in office and cause us to loose the congress and presidency in the next cycle.
There are plenty more differences, of course, but a mountain of evidence has no effect on people who don’t know the difference between policy debate and Obama’s shallow rhetoric.
http://a-civilife.blogspot.com
I’ve been waiting (in vain) for some smart interviewer to ask Obama, “You’ve had an awful lot of achievements in your life, but what exactly have you ever accomplished?” 143 days in the Senate? Someone commented that they have leftovers in their refrigerator with more “seasoning” than 143 days. Everything he has touched in an effort to help anyone other than himself has turned to crap. He was a “fair housing activist” on the South side of Chicago, and how did that turn out? He became Rezko’s B**ch, and sold the residents of his district down the river for pieces of Rezko’s government subsidized silver, while they (the residents) froze their asses off without heat. He went to talk with the union workers at Whirlpool about helping them keep their jobs and their factory open, and he sold those folks down the river as well, taking massive contributions of campaign funds from the Crown family, owner of the company, and never even raising the subject of the workers and their precarious situation with the Crowns, while the company shuttered the plant, and sent all the jobs abroad. He has acknowledged his lack of direct or hands-on experience, but he says that is irrelevant when matched against his flawless and outstanding good judgment. The same good judgment that had him sitting in the pews of Rev. Wright for 20 plus years, while subjecting his children to hateful themes and a racist ideology. The same good judgment that had him doing Rezko’s bidding and entering into questionable real estate transactions with this future federal inmate. The same good judgment that convinced him that it was a really great idea to go associate with and work for an unrepentant domestic terrorist. I don’t see how this country will be able to survive any more of his exercises in good judgment.
Let me make your day RobG.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj4VK9wVAi0&eurl=http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgXPVmlXKQI&eurl=http://hyper-educated-uppity-woman.blogspot.com/
Go to this petition and sign it, saying you won’t vote for BO. Leave a comment too.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/pledge-to-vote-against-obama-in-the-general-election
Hell would have to freeze over and the devil wold have to hand out ice cubes for me to vote for that cheater..i watch the Obama team cheat..up front and with my own eyes in Iowa..hell no is too nice a statwment how i feel about that cheater…like i said..hell would have to freeze over first..and then i need proof of it freeing over..
never ever ever will i vote for Obama..to me it is no different than voting for Bush..same difference.
fly
Right on! I really wish FOX or ABC would do a story on how Obama’s campaign has cheated time after time. Bullying and intimidation at caucuses. He’s such a lame candidate.
I find the word “threat” misleading, because when I say I would vote for McCain over Obama, I am not making a threat, I am merely stating a fact. I still hope Clinton has a chance, but if she doesn’t, McCain is by far my second choice.
There are just so many disconnects between Obama’s record and his rhetoric, I can’t understand how anyone can really be sure they know what he stands for. More than most other politicians, he seems to blow with the winds of fortune, moving from one group of “friends” to the next as he leap frogs from one position to another.
So is he a left wing radical, a corporate sell out or something in between? What is his true ideology?
I certainly can’t predict the choices others will make, but I know that as a life long Democratic leaning Independent, this is the first time I’m contemplating voting for a Republican presidential candidate.
For any Obama supporters that read here, aren’t you at all concerned that even with all the media calls for Clinton to drop out, the electorate has not coalesced behind his candidacy? Granted, he may still end up as the nominee, but aren’t you at all worried about his apparent weaknesses among segments of the electorate he’ll need to win in the general election?
68 percent of democrats say they want hillary to remain in the race.
These people are headed for a huge fall. They refuse to hear what they don’t want to hear, so screw em.
Oh wait till you all hear this. There’s another “strategist” talking a mile a minute on FOX saying they have to haul out Michelle Obama because she is so dynamic she can get back the female Hillary supporters. She can connect with all us professionals and even “older women”.
Think about this. Just think. Do these people put it stuff their noses or what?
Someone over there is hitting the crack pipe.
Stop that! Michelle is going to “Heal your soul”.
Oh, my and where did she get this power? From a Jedi? LOL!!
or she’ll scratch your eyes out.
in a pigs ass i can’t stand that woman..i shut her off when i see her coming..as well as sparky..
i won’t watch either of them anymore!
they gag me!
fly
Actually she bothers me even more than he does. How exactly are they going to get us to admire that miserable woman? Does anybody here identify with her other than that she reminds us of someone from work we couldn’t stand?
Just because Michelle’s a woman, I’m supposed to connect with her? What a fairy-tale!
That’s like saying just because they’re women I’m supposed to connect with the likes of Andrea Mitchell, Randi Rhodes, Rachel Maddow, Donna Brazile, Elizabeth Hasselbeck or Anne Coulter.
I’d probably stand a better chance of connecting to Mrs. McCain.
Wow. We are in the Twilight Zone, aren’t we?
Michelle loves to be compared with Jacquiline O.
Poor Jackie-O
They’ve seen her, right? They know what a nasty, negative unpleasant, condescending bitch she is? Right? I can’t think of anyone I am less likely to want to hear from, can you?
I don’t like Michelle Obama either. Her sense of entitlement, something often attributed to Hillary, offends me.
bad news for Sparky..
cnn exit polls show from registered dems..
36% for obama 35% for McCain..29 % won’t vote or will vote for someone else.
Registered Dems..
Hillary wins by 51% over 31% for McCain
no one has won the White house without WV since 1916
so spin that trolls..29% will sit home of vote someone else..
and it is a basic tie for Obama..and McCain
what a freaking joke what you trolls have done to this party..what a disgrace!
take your Obama crook and go play in the sand box.and pound sand!
fly
Karl rove played you little trolls like a fiddle..you wouldn’t listen to people with age and wisdom..so that prick played you for the fools you are..Obama has no chance..or a snow balls chance in hell to win in Nov..you did karl Roves job for him..you dumb fucks..
and you have fucked us all in the meantime!
Look in the Mirror trolls..you are responsible for this failure..and those of us who have been through this many times know damn well he will be a huge failure!
stick it up your asses trolls..I hold you ignuts 100% responsible!
Hey Fly, Rove is going to talk later today. The lead is that he thinks “there are more surprises in store”.
I want to see that — the Repubs are going to tear into Obama. I have been waiting a long time for someone to do this.
Fellow board members:
JFritz is attempting to control the conversation and topics. I call upon you all to ignore him and I will do the same if you agree. See his name, skip over it. This is typical obama control crap and aren’t we all just sick of it and them?
I say Do Not let him control our conversation or ruin our fun today.
Same goes for B-Rob.
It’s a deal, Uppity.
I will not let him control me. Isn’t that Hillary’s way too? Ignore the incompetent,phony
whiners.
HILLARY, YOU ROCK!!
Uppity – responding to every one of my posts and deleting many of them is a poor way of ignoring me. Don’t want your opinions questioned? Fine. Then don’t pay attention, and don’t respond.
“Is anyone listening to Ron Reagan on Air America right now? He is saying since HRC and Obama are just the same the only reason people are voting for Hillary is because they are racists. He is trying to get someone to call and explain why they are not voting for Obama.”"
Now do we see the brilliance and prescience of the SNL skit last Saturday?? Poehler, once again, hit the nail right on the head.
I think they have run out of their White Guilt luck don’t you?
Uppity too right. I am not guilty. Obama decided to cast his ass in the ring to be president and he has undone himself. I worry about all the people I know who have worked hard and played by the rules only to find that they are homeless and jobless because of the current baffoon, I do not want to hear Obama’s people cry racism — Obama is a flawed candidate in a time when we cannot afford a flawed candidate. Screw Obama–finally he has met a challenge he can’t buy. Its a great life lesson.
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The stakes are so high in this race; they are so far beyond a simple question of “who” will be our next President; this election is about what is to become of our nation. We all know this…deeply…which is why we are moved to create and place this ad asking this nation and the SD’s to wait for the entire primary process to play itself out. Every vote MUST be heard. Every state MUST be included. NOBODY has the right to ask Hillary to step aside when so much is on the line.
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Obama is a useless windbag.
But, I would hate to run into his wife in a dark alley.
That nasty, big-mouth, Amazon is scary.
She’s not my idea of a First Lady.
OMG ROFL!
yes. And this.
Obama is running on a platform of “post-partisanship” right? And, these so-called “progressives” tout this “post-partisan” platform at every turn, as if “post-partisan” automatically translates into GOP surrender. [dream on, boys and girls].
But, here’s the thing: If we’re REALLY post-partisan, then Democrats can vote for John McCain, see? Because he’s a moderate Republican after all, and he’s for environmental policies and torture policies that all progressives should be able to support.
So, for Obamabots to deride Clinton supporters who may vote for McCain just proves that they aren’t really post-partisan at all. They are FOOLS; they’ve been BAMBOOZLED; they’ve been HOODWINKED into thinking that ONLY OBAMA is allowed to be “post-partisan.”
And, when he starts appointing Republicans to his cabinet–as he has SAID he will do–then these BAMBOOZLED, HOODWINKED, FOOLS who call themselves “progressives” will be outraged.
And, of course, if they’re NOT outraged, they’re hypocrites. Because if Obama can appoint REPUBLICANS to his cabinet, why can’t DEMOCRATS vote for McCAIN?
This is so good:
Watch out. Barack Obama is SO STUPID and UNINFORMED that he thinks because his name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, and he’s been to Pakistan and lived in Indonesia that somehow Muslims won’t find him as threatening as Bush!
It’s just another example of his INEXPERIENCE. Because this blows that delusion RIGHT OUT OF THE WATER.
Fascinating article concerning the projections some Obama supporters make and how wrong they could be about his helping improve our relations with the Muslim world…in fact, it could just make them far worse.
May 12, 2008
Op-Ed Contributor
New York Times
President Apostate?
By EDWARD N. LUTTWAK
Chevy Chase, Md.
http://tinyurl.com/4a5ynt
Yeah, some “strategists” make plans thinking every thing is so cut and dried, for instance an oil man assuming he can run foreign policy the same way he runs his business, sort of like Dick Cheney thought he could govern, or control, from the presidency.
It doesn’t quite work out that way, and operating from within the US, and minding their manners, they’ve never really come up against any hard core opposition.
The shot across the bow!
Now try to board USS Hillary you Obamatic wimps. }:>
I will never vote for McCain…
I will WRITE IN HILLARY.
Some states don’t recognize write ins. There is a website for Hillary about write ins. Make sure you know what the status is in your state!
My vote for McCain over Obama is not a threat…it is a promise.
Unfortunately, if Obama is anywhere on the ticket even with Hillary, I vote for McCain.
McCain is a viable option. People need to get over the “can’t vote for a Republican” again concept.
Who knows who Obama is …. and what he will and will not do. We have seen his judgment in people already, we see what he has done versus the rhetoric,….we see that we are more divided than ever… (his divide and conquer theory)…Obama played the American people.
With Mccain, we know exactly what we are getting, and we know he loves this country. We don’t know that about Obama and Michelle.
VOTE FOR MCCAIN ….. if the choice is Obama McCain.
Hillary or McCain will be the next President. The elitist of the Democratic party will be deciding between Hillary and McCain when they pick the Dem nominee… I just wished they would believe it.
They are all out of touch with the American people.
As suggested by http://www.writehillaryin.com, here are the ?s and comments I sent to the DNC:
Why are you forcing an unqualified candidate down our throats?
Why did Nancy take Impeachment off the table?
Why can’t you realize that the Repubs are going to have a field day with Obama?
Why do we have caucuses and delegates when we have voters?
Why don’t FL and MI count?
Why doesn’t my vote today in NE count, but the votes of a small group of available caucus attendees do?
I will write in my vote for Hillary. The media and the DNC have been shameful to Hillary and YOU KNOW IT! But guess what, WE KNOW IT, TOO!
I’m from a red state, so my vote wouldn’t matter to you, I know that, as well. Maybe my vote(s!!!!) would matter to the Republicans? Hmm…… if you guys keep pushing, I just might vote for Republicans for the first time in my life! And I’m a liberal! If you drive me to that, we’re done!!
http://www.writehillaryin.com
Interesting screen name.
Do you know little balls?
I do.
No one is forcing anything. 17 million people have spoken and they DON’T want Hillary. If she were to get the nomination anyway, then THAT would be forcing the loser down our throats.
oh, look the farting cowboys from Blazing Saddles are riding through NQ…
How ya doing, Bob?
Oh such wit…
Bout as inventive as your screen name..
Can’t spect much more from someone as sharp as a marble though can I now….
B-Rob — Bull — Hillary shows that she can win white workers. People are reacting strongly to Obama becoming a race candidate. Once he did that he forfeited his chances of winning the majority of White voters in this country.
Hell, bubba lost the WM vote in ‘96… And he won…..
I’m just saying..
So, I take it you’re unfamiliar with the FL & MI problem and the fact that BO blocked a revote? Not to mention…………..Oh, why bother. Do your own research.
Oh they deny that. But the dye is cast. Those two states Know the Truth.
Oh but you forgot that 13 of the DNC rule makers are a part of Hillary’s crew, and that they came up with and approved the rules regarding Florida and Michigan, which stated that if they proceeded to vote before the stated date, that those states dels would not be sat. And then Hillary agreed to and signed onto the new rules, you know the 2,025 number, which her campaign quoted as the # of del’s needed before this last couple weeks and the new 2,209 number the Clintonista are now throwing around suddenly showed up.
So how is it, she was for it before she was against it?
Flip flopper.
Can anyone show me a poll where Hillary was ever down in Indiana?
I can’t find one.
Can one of you show me a poll that had Hillary behind in Indiana?
Cause I never saw one.
The mayor of Gary tried to make it Happen. Too bad for him another mayor called Bullshit on National TV. Do you people not understand that Barack Obama’s gig is up? He will NEVER be president and you people who fell for his rallies straight out of the Youth Movement Playbook will have marginalized the party for a decade. AGAIN! Why the hell don’t you go back to your own radical fringe party and leave the rest of America alone? You people show up every freaking decade like a plague. You win the battle by sheer riot threats and then you lose the war because and the majority of the party, who are adults who don’t enjoy being bullied by radical assholes and children, end up voting for some republican just to get rid of you.
The crap in Obama’s background hasn’t even BEGUN to surface. You people are the reason the Democratic party has only elected two freaking presidents in thirty years! And only ONE of them served two terms. You know why? Because he was a moderate, that’s why.
Yes yes yes….
I read your ridiculous “We don’t need or want to hear from you stupid koolaid drinking fools and here’s why”…
Your batshitcrazy. I’m a 40 wm. Spew your hate at ALL OF US all ya want Uppity.
Fact is, if Hillary somehow pulls off getting the nomination, your going to need us to get her elected.
You didn’t really show me a poll where Hillary was behind in Indiana. I have not seen one, and I’ve been watching this race as close as you have.
Waiting for your ‘witty’ reply…
If Hillary wins the nomination you will fall in line because :
1. You know she is qualified.
2. You will be able to atone for supporting a morally corrupt candidate.
3. You are a robot.
Oh, uh, most 40 year olds lose that arrogance sometime in their early 20’s.
I don’t believe you are 40.
And tell your pal JKFritz that it is insulting to use JFK’s initials.
Believe what ever you want to.. No skin of my back.
Summer of love, I’ll be 41 in june.
Anyway, I won’t have to ‘atone’ for anything.
how bout that poll that had Hillary behind at any time in Indiana?
See, my mom comes from Indiana, my gramps, aunts, uncles and cousins are still there. All in about a 50 mile radius of Fort Wayne.
My gramps heard Hillary say in her victory speech that “We came from far behind here in Indiana, no one here thought we could win”.
He said thats a bold face lie, so I looked for a poll showing her behind, can’t find it.
mostly cause its not there. My relatives all except one cousin voted for Senator Obama, they have guns, they are bitter, they go to church every sunday and pray for a better life.
Thats all I want, is a better life, you can call me any name you like, I read I listened, I even read all the crap on here.
Anyway, like I said, keep up your name calling, not as many of us will be around for hillary if you keep treating the rest of the party like a bunch of koolaid can’t think for themselves Obamabots.
Get it?
Hillary first. McCain second. No Obama.
Obama was not raised in a slum and is more elitist than most.
Mr. Obama has portrayed himself as coming from a poor background. I actually would say he has been most fortunate
He talks about his mother, Stanley Ann Soetoro, being on food stamps for a while. We never hear about her being a capable, intelligent woman who ultimately obtained a PHD. She worked for the Women’s World Bank. Obama’s biological father was also highly educated. His step-father was also a college educated
He also had supportive grandparents. His grandmother was a bank executive.
Obama went to an exclusive private school, and two elite colleges.
Obama keeps whining about paying off his college loans.
What I want to know is how much financial aid did he receive? Did his family ever help him out financially? Did he receive student financial aid or scholarships?
Obama has a McMansion. So I think it time to stop moaning about your low interest loans. The interest is much higher lately.
And maybe he could start being thankful for those that helped him along the way.
Obama was not raised in a ghetto.
Compare Hillary’s early background with his and you might find that he did have more advantages as a youth except for a supportive father.
Obama has rewritten his life.