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Will Barack Throw Mama From the Train? [Update Two] + NEW THREAD II

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Comment by President Hillary Clinton will beat Obama and his troll army | 2008-05-16 21:52:45

Go Larry! Get that video to come out if you can!

Comment by JB | 2008-05-18 05:48:06

According to Bill Clinton, this thread about MO is “The biggest fairy tale I have ever heard.” This is how to smear somebody 101. How many people are walking around talking about a video of MO that doesn’t even exist.

Remember, there was also video of Obama takling office with the Koran. There was video of Obama not putting his hand over his heart at the Pledge of Allegience.

There are rumors and no video of course that he is a secret Muslim. No proof, just destroy the man for political power. I guess that’s okay in some twisted way, right?!

Call him an appeaser of terroist. Question why Hamas would want to back his candidacy.

And you get this clip:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=168561&title=indecision-2008-west-virginia

We get what we deserve when we do this.

We are better than this, or maybe not!

 
 

Comment by wry | 2008-05-16 21:54:51

Larry when this is over will you throw a NO Quarter convention so i can meet everyone on this site?

Comment by 2008nowosci | 2008-05-16 22:26:52

yes, absolutely, and I will love to purchase Larys book someday!!!
I just hope, as we all, that DNC and Republicans get their sences back, stop beying soft on Obama and get HIM OUT. Edwards is FINISH, and the rest of Obama pinguins will be to!!!Obama with all white man with Him(in dark suits) , they look like pinguins!!!
Are Media is affraid of Obama, maybe blackmail, we forgive them all, just get obama out!!! before will be to late!!!

Comment by A Pinquin | 2008-05-17 05:45:11

Punctuation, correct spelling, and literacy in general are a little too much to ask for as criteria for most blog postings, but you could at least cut back on the meds before you try to express a rational thought (if you ever have one), you moron.

Comment by 2008nowosci | 2008-05-17 09:39:22

You are abosutely right, but I will try to do better.
Thanks for honesty…

 
 
 
 

Comment by Manu | 2008-05-16 21:56:27

Man the suspense is building up. Can’t stand it. At this point, I hope Jack Nicholson makes a guest appearance on this video.

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will beat Obama and his troll army | 2008-05-16 22:03:11

It amazes me the whole Obama campaign is based on the false “hope” he will bring change. Yet we get criticized for having a little hope the video will come out. And Larry Johnson is not some anonymous troll with no credibility. If anyone wants to challenge his credibility they should have the balls to post with their real name since Larry is not hiding from anyone. Larry is a patriot fighting for what he believes in. And you?

 

Comment by 2008nowosci | 2008-05-16 22:39:35

this is good idea,:):):)
remember???” you can not hanle the truth”, OBAMA CAN NOT!!!, in every debate HE was terrible, He can not stand tough questions, do not let Him talk, waste time, kick him OUT!!!

 
 

Comment by Mostest | 2008-05-16 21:59:28

It is going to get real bumpy from here on out. The MSM, DNC, and the obamaNuts are fighting teeth and nail to hand Obama the nomination before this video comes out.

LOCK and LOAD Bitches, it going to get rough.

Comment by Shainzona | 2008-05-16 22:01:46

We’re ready!!!!!

Comment by moose-14 | 2008-05-16 22:09:40

We seem to have watch the obamadrama, every single day.

And isn’t this always the case with dysfunctional men?

Every have a drunk, or a druggie in your family?

Everything has to revolve around his behavior, jeez, why is the press SO co- dependent upon Obama?

It’s not psychologically healthy.

We do this because the POS is not qualified to be President, they do it because they’re codependent on each other for approval, apparently…

Comment by Cindy | 2008-05-16 22:19:24

Moose—You’re exactly right! Let’s get that guy in rehab soon…..Maybe South America, in the bosom of Liberation Theology.
Si se puede!

Comment by moose-14 | 2008-05-16 23:39:28

You’re being facetious, but you’re right,

and that is sad.

People hear about Obama, and black liberation theology, and because he doesnt foam, they feel it’s a prop.

So Obama AstroTurfs his acolytes, right?

Kinda like the republicans soft sell racism, a racism they truly embrace?

I always thought Rush LImbaihg was a hate merchant, too.

Even if Obama is not Farrakhan, he supports Farrakhan, tacitly, twenty years is a long time, is this any different than if McCain supported David Duke, say, or Adolph Coors?

And though I dont worry about Farrakhan’s hatred of “whites,”, I do worry about his haterd of “Jews” given the company he keeps.

 
 
 

Comment by ginaswo | 2008-05-16 22:10:06

reporting for duty, ret to go!!!

 
 
 

Comment by Diane D-R | 2008-05-16 22:02:31

However damaging this tape may or may not be, if it isn’t in the hands of Clinton or her supporters, it isn’t going to go public until after the Democratic nomination is decided. Why should the Republicans help the stronger Democratic candidate get the nomination and ruin McCain’s chances? So, instead of salivating over this tape and the damage it might do Barry, let’s dig deep for a few more bucks in donations, and let’s get busy on those phone banks.

A lot of ballots in Oregon haven’t been dropped off yet. There’s a lot of undecided voters and only a little time left to decide. Make some calls and help them decide. She’s gone from 20 points behind to 5 in the polls, while the ballots returned thus far show them neck and neck. So, instead of worrying about this tape, let’s take action to make a difference: Get Out The Vote, and Contribute.

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will beat Obama and his troll army | 2008-05-16 22:05:49

Thanks for reminding us. Will make calls tomorrow.

 

Comment by Mostest | 2008-05-16 22:20:33

Your right…but I can chew gum and walk at the same time. You know?

Another thing don’t get stuck on the narrative. Who says only the repubs have the tape (if it exist). All those years, all those people coming and going through that church. Times are hard and if someone throw enough money at me I would definitely give up the Millionaire Obamas in a heartbeat besides it is the Right thing to do.

 
 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-16 22:03:56

Dayum Hillary is so friggin SMART!!!

I don’t know she just amazes me watching her just now in Oregon. She is the quickest witted person I’ve ever seen! BETTER than her husband!

I really dig that! I really hope she is our next President! FINALLY a PRESIDENT I can REALLY ADMIRE!! That would be incredible! For a change.

Comment by JoeySky | 2008-05-16 22:21:14

I love the Hi-Lo points. She came up with it in 2 seconds. And it’s so genuine.

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-16 22:27:13

Hey JoeySky!

Wasn’t she amazing? Yet Again!
Now I’m listening to her from an audio tape from this morning from Riverdaughter who grabbed it from Taylor Marsh. lol

Here’s the link. It’s very good she’s talking a lot about getting FL and MI back on the board!

 
 

Comment by wry | 2008-05-17 00:03:37

But her husband is so damn sexy…

 
 

Comment by Joe | 2008-05-16 22:05:20

Any new info in these hundreds of comments? Yes, a game-changer would nice right now.

 

Comment by cc | 2008-05-16 22:06:59

well…I think in a perfect world repubs would most likely wait until after Hillary is out…but they’ve watched this Obamazoid freak show morph into wacked-out, crazed lunacy just like the rest of us…so I’m not sure they want to take any chances either. the silver lining in this whole mess is that many repubs have gained a much stronger respect for hillary.

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will beat Obama and his troll army | 2008-05-16 22:14:04

We can contact the RNC and ask them to release the video Larry is talking about now out of patriotic duty to America. We are all Americans first.

Comment by Donkey Brazziere | 2008-05-16 22:27:21

Republicans do not think like that.

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will beat Obama and his troll army | 2008-05-16 23:20:23

We’ve seen some Republicans here who want to stop Obama now. A troll last night said Larry was a registered Republican. I did not see Larry deny this. So I disagree with you. And it only takes a moment to send a note to the RNC. There is no harm in asking them to be patriotic. It is my opinion the entire country minus the Obama supporters is uniting against him.

Comment by fooj | 2008-05-16 23:56:49

I’ve been waiting for the Republicans to put coutry before party since 2000. Sadly, I’ve learned that neither party puts America first.

 
 

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will beat Obama and his troll army | 2008-05-16 23:22:19

And the Obama supporting Democrats don’t think like that either. They put hope before rational thinking and what is best for our country in my opinion.

 

Comment by 2008nowosci | 2008-05-17 09:51:35

Hillary is one of the smartest politycias we ever have. Just pure truth…If she was a REPUBLICAN, SHE would be the STAR of this election… with respect to Mr.McCain!!!

 
 

Comment by Magginkat | 2008-05-17 09:42:18

Republicans have their own definition of patriotism and it has nothing to do with reality.
Surely you have noticed that to republicans, party loyalty trumps everything. Unfortunately the Democratic leadership shows signs of the same disease.

 
 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-16 22:14:07

EVERYONE but the most rabid Hillary haters can see how tough and smart she really is.

I just don’t GET how anyone could dislike her. She is soooo much more friendly and personable than BO.

I’ve watched them both. His is all 4 show. Inbetween his face is always sullen. His wifes is even worse.

In between with HILLARY is always a look of strict regard. Nothing phony about her at all.

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-05-16 22:24:44

What I really don’t get is why some young women hate her so much. I think it might be some sort of backlash against their mothers…you know how it is, when you get to college, you want to disassociate yourself with your parents, and for those young ladies, Hillary reminds them too much of their mother or something.

That’s all I can figure. Because it boggles my mind that any young woman who calls herself liberal would hate Hillary.

(Not all young women hate Hillary…but I have talked to some who hold her in downright contempt. So I think those that do have issues, or something.)

Comment by Gaylen | 2008-05-16 23:20:18

They are just catty brats that are jealous and spiteful towards most women and Hillary just happens to be a favorite target.

I’ve never liked most of my age group (I’m 25). I’ve never liked teenagers, even when I was one. So many young people today are spoiled, entitled, and generally unpleasant to be around.

I liked it better when they were largely politically apathetic. It’s trendy right now to (pretend to) care about politics. They’ll tire of it quickly, considering their attention spans.

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-05-17 05:20:51

You are very wise for your age — you must have an old soul. [grin]

Perhaps the twenty somethings and younger picked up their dislike for the Clintons from the nasty media during the 90s(because dislike or hatred seems to be directed at both Bill and Hillary). The GOP was out to get the Clintons and they were hounded almost continually — it was 8 years of bad press. Meanwhile the parents of this group (20-something etc) know that they did better money-wise when Clinton was President.

 
 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-17 11:39:10

you know i have absolutely no time or energy for young women who dislike hillary. i suggest they grow up real fast. the world is not theirs for the taking. this campaign should show them that. we worked our butxx off to get rights and now they want to give them back so “sweetie” can be president. i think not!

 
 

Comment by fooj | 2008-05-16 23:53:40

Even some card-carrying Hillary haters are jumping to her defense. I think she has surprised many of them. They admire her toughness.

 
 
 

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will beat Obama and his troll army | 2008-05-16 22:12:42

 

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will beat Obama and his troll army | 2008-05-16 22:16:56

Something is going on behind the scenes maybe. I think the sane Democrats and Republicans have united against Obama and will stop him very soon. I will say a prayer for this to happen. Can’t hurt.

Comment by 2008nowosci | 2008-05-17 09:59:00

to PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON…I just hope You are right. I believe, that respect between McCain and Hillary is great, and this is showing to US, that this two candidates, are truly for better times for OUR belove country!!!

 
 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-16 22:17:00

larry the report about the micelle video is getting play on other blogs. word is out.

 

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-05-16 22:29:30

Will Obama throw Mama from the train? Obama will throw anybody from the train/bus/building/airplane.

 

Comment by 2008nowosci | 2008-05-16 22:35:18

LARRY, we need Your video, PLEASE, DO SOMETHING,, before will be to late!!!

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-16 23:02:56

Larry suggested we be patient….and have a little faith….No ?

Comment by fooj | 2008-05-16 23:52:03

 
 
 

Comment by charlie blaze | 2008-05-16 22:46:26

Seriously, I think the majority of you on this site are horribly delusional. Rev. Wright’s tape already came out and if any of you have ever been to a black church, you’d know that usually only pastors or deacons, or other clergy speak. The regular audience do not speak. Michelle Obama does not have a position in that church, so she would not be speaking in it from a pulpit or podium.

If you dislike Obama, then you have a choice. Don’t vote Democrat. Vote for McCain, or if you’re in the remaining states for the primaries, vote for Hillary then. Despite all of the fake internet smears and tin-foil hate conspiracy theories (Obama paid 400 bloggers!), Barack Hussein Obama will be the Democratic nomineee. Hillary Clinton had an opportunity to beat him, and she failed.

I don’t know how much of this is sour grapes for Clinton, or just pure prejudice against a black man. Please do not tell me the “I’d vote for Colin Powell” crap, because I sincerely doubt you would. You’re auditing the life of Michelle Obama, saying that she’s “anti-white” and “racist”, based on rumored tape, and your own biases. Try auditing Cindy McCain’s life, where there is actually proof of negative substance. If Obama ends up winning the GE, feel free to immigrate. Canada and New Zealand want immigrants. The rest of us Americans will better our country.

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-05-16 23:00:03

I used to think Obama was a good alternative if Hillary did not win, but now that I’ve gotten to know him better, I absolutely cannot support him. This has nothing to do with race on my part. It has everything to do with his character (or lack thereof) as well as the insanity shown by his supporters. (By that, I mean the cult-like atmosphere that surrounds Obama.)

I am very sorry that the first black candidate for president is someone I must fight against. I would like to see a person of color in the White House. But Obama’s race is no reason for me to forgive all the other horrible things about him.

I would neither vote for Ann Coulter, should she run for president, just because she’s a woman.

BTW, Hillary has not failed yet, and Obama has not won. West Virginia was I think just the beginning of the Obama backlash.

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-05-17 05:31:11

If we look at the current reaction (backlash) to the Governor of Mass. who is the prototype for Obama branding — we see people who now believe they were duped by hopie changie stuff — same message as Obama and the Governor IS NOT delivering. Voters in Mass. went for Hillary, overwhelmingly. Making Kennedy and Kerry look like two stupid jerks for supporting Obama.

It is a very long time before that DEM convention in August. Although progress in exposing Obama as a fraud seems to be going at a snails pace — momentum seems to be growing against his useless, meaningless “message”.

We have Major Problems, the economy is probably at the top of most people’s list — Obama has NO solutions — nothing original to offer. That’s probably one of the major reasons why Obama lost so convincingly in WV.

 
 

Comment by Mostest | 2008-05-16 23:03:47

Seriously, I think the majority of you on this site are horribly delusional. Rev. Wright’s tape already came out and if any of you have ever been to a black church, you’d know that usually only pastors or deacons, or other clergy speak. The regular audience do not speak. Michelle Obama does not have a position in that church, so she would not be speaking in it from a pulpit or podium.

I smell something….FEAR.
How do you know MO does not hold a position in that church? Please tell me you had the nerve to ask Obama a question. Wow, you are one brave soul. To ask Obama a question that would make him uncomfortable…wow I am impressed.

And FYI about the “Black Church.” When an non pastors or deacons speak it is called “testifying.” Testifying is when the mike is handed over to the non pastors and deacons…you know regular folks. From my impression of MO and her stump speech she does a lot of testifying in church. It is in her cadance and the little “huh” she does when she is making a point. Check out some of her youtubes…oh that tape is out there TRUST!

Comment by moose-14 | 2008-05-16 23:42:52

Ah, I see, is handing the microphone over symbolic?

 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-05-17 05:35:13

WOW — great observation — OF COURSE Mrs. Obama testifies in church — she isn’t going to be a quiet church mouse — after all — SHE is an important person — she’s very rich and plans to be richer.

But yes — the way she speaks — Revival/Tent meeting — Evangelist type speak! I’ve heard this cadence so often growing up — you just know the ones who learned public speaking in their church.

 

Comment by apishapa | 2008-05-17 09:23:39

It seems to me like Michelle Obama is the link between Barack and pretty much all of his questionable connections. She was working with Bernadine Dohrn when she and Obama met. Either she introduced him to Ayers or Ayers introduced him to her.

I have had the understanding that she introduced him to the Tinity Church. I think if anyone digs around in Michelle Obama’s closet there are some stinky skeletons to be found. She has a lot of hate lurking inside that sneaks out more and more.

Comment by Andy | 2008-05-17 09:28:38

yes, that seems reasonable. Was her father was something at the church?
Your guess is probably correct about Wright, Ayres Dohrn and co. Rezko however seems Obama’s himself?

 
 
 

Comment by HankinPA | 2008-05-16 23:11:01

YOu seem to think you can read our minds, so read this

There, I feel better — hope you got the message!

 

Comment by Gaylen | 2008-05-16 23:25:35

Considering the unending whining about, “But but but BILLary!” don’t bother coming here to explain to us that his spouse is off limits.

You have your fellow trolls to thank for this state of affairs.

And by the way, he’s had months since February to beat her and he hasn’t. In fact, he’s had some pretty big, fat losses.

FAIL.

Comment by fooj | 2008-05-16 23:50:50

He’s a loser if his thugs aren’t gaming the system.

 
 

Comment by sarainitaly | 2008-05-17 09:11:25

“The regular audience do not speak. Michelle Obama does not have a position in that church, so she would not be speaking in it from a pulpit or podium.”

Michelle Obama Speaks on Husband’s Behalf in Chicago
In an impassioned 40-minute speech at a church on Chicago’s South Side, she hit back at the argument that her husband — Democrat Barack Obama — isn’t ready to be elected president after less than a full term in the U.S. Senate…
Her comments were interrupted frequently by applause from hundreds of people who packed the Apostolic Church of God for the morning speech.
http://www.wifr.com/nationalnews/headlines/12248011.html

During a recent speech at a church in South Carolina, while stumping for her husband, Michelle Obama told the congregation that we are a country that is, “just downright mean…” and are “guided by fear…”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1981447/posts

Obama Speaks To Atlanta Church Members
January 21, 2008
Barak Obama addresses the congregation at a Christian church in Georgia.
http://video.nbc5.com/player/?id=207312

 

Comment by No_Obama_Trolls | 2008-05-17 09:24:10

charlie: have you finished school yet?

If Obama ends up winning the GE, feel free to immigrate. Canada and New Zealand want immigrants.

That would be emmigrate, since we are in the US (not sure about you though). Seems you need to do much more reading kid!

 

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-17 09:55:30

If she said it, she gets to own it. And as an Obama supporter, you can try defending it.

We’ll see. I already personally heard quite enough already to know she’s very likely to have been public about certain attitudes. Her remarks already were shocking, but it’s clear she thought she was toning down for the masses. Her willingness to choose Wright as a spiritual guide tells me that her spirituality and politics are intertwined in a way that makes it clear that she’s a “Have” versus “Have Not” thinker. That’s petty spiritual thinking, in my book.

But mostly, Obama’s nonstop attacks on Hillary’s character may have gotten a pass from his supporters, but it did not go unnoticed by Hillary’s supporters. We saw him doing it day in and day out since he lost Texas.

So if he gets a dose of it, it will be fun to watch. I may even lower myself to go troll a bit and have a laugh on the pro-Obama sites, if there are any left. I understand he’s cutting off all donations to progressive bloggers. :)

 

Comment by Martin | 2008-05-17 11:37:01

Hear hear! well said. though those countries want educated immigrants only!

 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-17 11:42:39

oh please take your own bias and dislike to another site. i am sick and tired of the daxx obamadrama. my race, my wife, mememememe, my pastor! blah,blah, blah. spread hatred and disrespect and still whine. i am sick of it. guess what the rest of the voters are also. that doesn’t bode well for precious.

 

Comment by NoBama08 | 2008-05-17 12:37:59

Go directly to hell Tired of your racist accusations.

 
 

Comment by Kefa | 2008-05-16 22:48:40

Charlie….if that is so…don’t worry.

 

Comment by Kefa | 2008-05-16 22:49:21

For the rest of us……let’s see that tape

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-16 22:54:21

soon it will be 2400

that’s as good a time as any for us delusional Hillary Fans….. yeap

excuse me while I continue banging my head against my keyboard

(*&*&^%%$$#@!$*&)

 
 

Comment by Gregoryp | 2008-05-16 22:56:19

I just want to reply to the obamabot from the previous thread that knows what Michelle actually meant. Here is another piece of information that you might not be privy to. Both Michelle and Barrack are both highly sophisticated Ivy league trained lawyers. They know exactly what the hell they are saying at all times. The problem is that while they worked diligently to get their degrees both are actually as dumb as a box of rocks.

When Michelle said that this was the first time she was proud of this country she damned well meant it. She didn’t stutter or have any loss for words. She wasn’t taken out of context either.

When Obama called us typical white people who knew what the hell he was saying. When they called us racists, they knew what the hell they were saying. When he goes onstage with Donnie McClurkin he knows what he is doing. When he says that we cling to our religion and guns he knows damned well what he is saying.

And here is where you should get the clue. We know what the fuck he saying and meaning. Despite your claims to the contrary that we are all somehow simple, redneck racists we understand the score pretty damned well. It is you and yours who should reassess this meme you have about us Hillary democrats. Your ideas are what is in error. Not ours.

People keep saying how great of a campaign that Obama has ran but frankly if you can alienate a very left wing liberal such as myself then you have ran a terrible and I mean terrible campaign. My vote was never in question. Now it is irrevocably gone. I just don’t appreciate the blatant dishonesty, the blatant mysogeny, the blatant race baiting, the blatant attempts to control the cash and to use that as leverage. Obama’s new politics is dispicable, outrageous, and divisive. I have no respect for the campaign, the operators behind the campaign and the candidate himself.

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-05-16 23:03:44

Let’s not forget the big stink Obama just made about Bush’s comments…acting as if somehow Obama should be above criticism. Every time he says “that’s divisive,” HE is actually the one being the most divisive.

Annoying.

Comment by fooj | 2008-05-16 23:48:35

He needs someone to project onto. It’s all part of his gig.

I’ve got news for Little Lord Obama. It doesn’t seem to be working. He has tried to pull every trick in the book on Hillary but his numbers aren’t rising. Hers are. BWAHAHAHAHA!

Nobody wants a weak whiner as a President. It’s that simple.

 

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-17 11:34:26

Obama is predictable in that sense. You’re spot on.

If he accuses, watch for how he’s doing exactly that.

I was blushing for even Hillary for jumping on Bush’s statements. What a farce.

 
 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-17 11:46:12

she meant it because she also said it twice the same day.

 
 

Comment by HillaryforPrez | 2008-05-16 23:06:40

I’ve missed out on a lot of good articles this week…have been on the road. I am just catching up and like the idea expressed in ths first set of 600 comments, about only using a name when you post that is postivie for Hillary or negative for Obama…Great Idea. I cannot believe the audacity of the Obamas and his handlers. If Hillary will continue on to the convention, I believe she will be the nominee. I have also missed out on blog censor “scandals”…and yes, it is scandalous to allow pro-Obama comments, but not pro-Hillary comments. So to whomever has video footage of MO showing how she really feels about America, yet again, please publish it. Some people who have endorsed O this week need to be embarrassed by it.

 

Comment by Ashamed | 2008-05-16 23:11:41

THis is funny, Supposely a video, I doubt it, YOu sir are a Hillary supporter mad that she lost to the young guy out of nowhere get a day job asshole, Don’t say something until u can give the sources name and the video is release

Comment by Gaylen | 2008-05-16 23:29:35

*Snort*

Ya didn’t even bother to read the lengthy bio before you mouthed off about day jobs.

Don’t say something until you’ve confirmed the author is jobless, dumbass.

 

Comment by mimi | 2008-05-16 23:40:07

 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-17 11:47:02

you are wishing aren’t little obama supporter!

 
 

Comment by CB | 2008-05-16 23:12:53

If there is anything that the Republicans could use again any Democratic candidate that would seal the deal for McCain, of course, it is better to find out before that candidate is nominated. The loss is much greater now that the Democratic Party has an extraordinary candidate who has the ability to transform our country such as we have not had in our lifetime, and she isn’t the one spouting Axelrod’s Hope+Change(TM) ad campaign.

I think the Wright association itself is a deal breaker. Ophra was savvy enough to leave Trinity because she knew she needed to appeal to a mainstream audience. After 20 years, Obama still hadn’t figured that out. Imagine if Hillary went to a woman-centric church or McCain to a white racist church.

After being involved with Rezko for 17 years when your constituents are being taken advantage of by him –you receive a $1000 check for your next campaign but poor, mostly black tenants have gone all winter without heat because Rezko’s company is broke). And when all of Chicago knew Rezko was about to be indicted for influence peddling, Obama goes into a deal to buy a house he otherwise can’t afford. This is a campaign without a resume but we are supposed to buy your superior character. Jeez! How dumb do you think we are?

Comment by sandyR | 2008-05-16 23:28:51

CB, back in the days when I was watching C-SPAN’s morning call in show, they had an AA guy call in from Chicago’s South Side. This guy said that Obama was no friend to the poor blacks in Chi-town.
He said Obama wouldn’t even appear in the poor places in town because it was deemed a security risk. So what happened to the voices like this guys? Where are the voices of the people from those buildings who went without heat– during a Chicago winter, that’s unbelievable. Evelyn Pringle’s series on Obama (Curtain call for Obama
part IV- to be exact) mentions the cronies of Obama and Daley gang that made money off of the Arab American community. These guys made money off of saying they would help Arab Americans, but just helped themselves. Where are their voices?
The media is disgusting in its forfeit of any semblance of decent journalistic ethics.

 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-17 11:48:52

looking at the numbers if it was a check given for support and future support, then it meant whoever received it was a cheap buy.

 
 

Comment by Bathus | 2008-05-16 23:13:24

I followed the link to here from NRO's Campaign Spot, whence you might divine that I’m not only a right-winger, but also a bit of a gossip-monger.

And that’s all this is–just gossip. But very smart gossip–politically speaking–because it smears Obama (and his wife) and at the same time foists the blame for that smear onto the GOP. So it’s sort of a “two-fer.”

Whether any of this gossip actually ever pans out is irrelevant, because the gossip itself will reinforce the opinions of many of those who are already inclined to dislike Obama and/or Republicans. This gossip is especially effective because it feeds off of and into widely accepted pre-existing narratives about Obama and the GOP.

The most powerful gossip is the lie that folks want to believe, the lie they already believe before it is even spoken.

All of which goes to show that the Clinton operatives wrote the book, and are still writing the book, when it comes to down-and-dirty politics.

By way of full disclosure, one last admission then I’ll get out of your hair: As a right-winger, I would much prefer Hillary to Obama, because–notwithstanding Hillary’s dirty tricks–I do think that in the end she has the nation’s best interest at heart. She’s quite tough, and will be able to unite the people behind her in the war against the Islamists. Indeed, I am inclined to prefer her to McCain because the Dems would allow her a freer hand to fight that war, both in Iraq and elsewhere(and make no mistake, she would fight it to win it), whereas those same Dems, who would let Hillary fight to win, would hound McCain’s ever move and prevent him from winning.

By contrast with Hillary, I think Obama has some serious, deep, and unresolved personal psychic issues relating to his own racial identity and that his unresolved anger about those identity issues could play out in a way that would be catastrophic for the country. At some level, Obama would not mind if the United States were “punished” for the wrongs it has perpetrated upon him and his people. One should beware of a leader so obviously narcissistic as Obama, because within every narcissist is a anger-filled soul waiting for and wanting a chance to “make them all sorry for what they’ve done.” Thus, the oft-heard line about the Obama kool-aid-drinkers is almost literally right on the mark.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-16 23:17:59

Hmmm…….Food for thought Balthus….Sounds like EMPIRICAL WOMP ASS IN THE MIDDLE EAST is the way things are linin up…Whether it washes down easy or not….I’m just sayin’

 

Comment by Gaylen | 2008-05-16 23:44:18

A fair point.

But it’s equally plausible that the simplest explanation is true. That being the explanation Larry gave us.

Hillary’s people are probably very gun shy about digging for dirt. Whether they were behind the release of the “Muslim garb” picture a few months back or not, they took the blame for it. Now that she’s closing in, pushing past him in the popular vote, it stands to reason that they don’t want to go back down the ‘negativity’ path and feed into the media’s existing narrative.

So that does leave Republicans. They’ve already started running ads featuring Rev. Wright and Michelle Obama. Local GOP offices like those in North Carolina and now the linked ad in Tennessee. This is their angle, whereas Clinton’s focus has been to hammer home about whose votes Obama can’t get.

And it also stands to reason that the GOP would be withholding such a video until October when it would send Obama reeling and give them little time to try to recover. They probably realize Clinton’s cross-over appeal to (some) Republican women and independents, so they are in no hurry to help wound the weaker of the two Dem candidates just yet.

Plus, Larry isn’t stupid. It’s probably safe to assume that he’s reaching out across his network of contacts and not just taking one person’s word for it. The fact that he’s accumulated additional sources since first running the story is a testament to that.

So basically, it’s fair to take this report with a grain of salt. But it isn’t fair to toss it out offhand because it seems too convenient. Maybe it fits the pattern (attendance for 20 yrs in Rev Wright’s church, planning a year in advance to dump Wright when it became necessary, Michelle’s thesis, etc) because they really do have an axe to grind with white people.

Comment by Bathus | 2008-05-17 02:21:31

I think your analysis is reasonable, too. And although this as-yet-unseen tape of Mrs. O does seem rather too convenient both in its unavailability and in its purported provenance, I don’t at all doubt that there’s something not-too-disimilar floating around out there somewhere.

Speaking as a conservative who talks to lots of conservatives, let me give you some insight into our thinking on these subjects. Yes, it’s true we think Hillary would be a stronger candidate than Obama in the general election. But we also think McCain is likely to defeat either of your guys. We think McCain has about a 3 to 2 odds of beating Hillary and a 4 to 1 or better shot at beating Obama–as long as the economy doesn’t go all the way into the tank before election day.

Here’s why we think McCain will win, and why we’d rather see Hillary running on your side, even though she’s a stronger candidate than Obama:

Why we think we’ll win: The mistake you Dems made in your nomination process was that you figured that, because Bush is so highly unpopular, you absolutely could not lose in 2008. But, oops, you sorta kinda forgot that you wouldn’t be running against Bush in 2008. While you were still in that happy mode of thinking you couldn’t possibly lose, you thought you therefore had the luxury to nominate whoever ran you the nicest tingle up your leg. Or to put things less teasingly, you allowed yourselves for too long to indulge the very noble fantasy of nominating either the first black or the first female from a major party as your candidate for president–without seeing that both of those candidates have very serious electoral disabilities, not the least of which electoral disabilities is that one is a woman and the other is black. I’m not talking about how good and nice and qualified your candidates are. I’m talking about how electable they are. You’re now finally starting to wake up and realize that you aren’t running against Bush and that you very easily could lose this dern thing, but you’re so trapped in the anti-Bush mode that your two prong strategy is (1) to try to convince voters that McCain is really Bush and (2) to chant non-stop for change. Anti-Everything-Bush and Change–that’s your two pronged strategy for the White House. Yes, there’s lots of other details you can feed to the 5% who are politics wonks, but Anti-Bush and Change is the main thing that you will get through to 95% of voters.

Unfortunately for you Dems, on your first prong, the only issue where you can really tie McCain to Bush is Iraq. Just like Bush, McCain says he’s going to gut it out and win the war. But unlike Bush, when it comes to successfully gutting it out in war, McCain has an impressive credibility by virtue of his actions in a certain place called Vietnam. By contrast, your two candidates say they are definitely going to give up on Iraq, which again reminds folks of that certain place called Vietnam, as to which the left’s contribution to the way that war ended is not something most Americans recollect with admiration (Contrary to what some pot-stewed old hippies might still think, recollecting images such as Jane Fonda simulating firing enemey AAA at US pilots does not warm voters’ hearts toward the left). Given the two options of gutting it out or cutting and running, the majority of the American people will say, “I’m with that tough SOB who says we can and will win.” So Iraq, which is the only issue where you can clearly tie McCain to Bush, is a net positive for McCain. McCain will be thrilled to talk about nothing but Iraq all day every day between now and the election if your Dems are foolish enough to have that conversation.

Now your other prong of your strategy is “change.” And for sure democratic peoples do like a dose of change now and then. But not too much change. McCain can point to his record of disagreeing with Bush and the GOP on a lot of issues, even to the point that many GOPers are downright fed up with him. So most people will recognize that McCain is not Bush, and that a switch from Bush to McCain is a change–a real change, but not a frightening change. However, another switch from a Bush to a Clinton looks a lot like a “change” we already tried. That’s not change. That’s a “been there done that” cycle the repition of which would resemble mental illness on a national scale. We’ve had enough of the Bushes, but we’ve also had enough of the Clintons, too. And that’s why Obana’s “change” mantra works so well against Hillary. But it won’t work for Obama against McCain. Yes, a switch from a Bush to Obama would be a definite change, a radical change–too radical for most voters. Obama-style change is just too unknown, too scary–especially when you think about the kind of folks Obama hangs out with. A switch from Bush to McCain feels about right–a change voters can understand, absorb, feel safe and comfortable with, live with.

So the change mantra actually plays out in McCain’s favor against either Clinton or Obama. Obama-change is too much scarey change. Hillary-change is just the same old Clintons. McCain-change is just right.

Why we’d rather run against Hillary, even though she has a better chance of beating McCain: Even though we feel confident that McCain would defeat either Hillary or Obama, we also know that a lot could happen between now and election day. McCain is no sure-winner against either of your guys. The aforementioned precarious economy could go right into the tank. McCain himself could drop dead tomorrow. However, we think Obama, if elected, would be such a disaster–not just for us, but for the country–that we would rather see Hillary running on your side even though she has a better shot a beating our guy. The smaller chance of Obama defeating McCain entails such great risk for the country, if he did happen to win, that we’d rather face the greater possibility of Hillary beating McCain. If worst came to worst, we conservatives feel like we could live with a Hillary presidency. We survived her husband; we can survive her.

As I indicated in my earlier post, to many of us conservatives (at least those of us who can allow themselves to think objectively), Hillary would not be that much worse than McCain, and maybe not as bad in actual effect. In case you hadn’t noticed, we conservatives are not fond of McCain. From our point of view, he’s been pretty much wrong on every important issue except the war and abortion, and we don’t particularly trust him on the latter issue, especially where judicial appointments are concerned. Indeed, as president, McCain might succeed in moving the country further left than could Hillary could because conservatives would find it difficult to unite to stop him when he started on one of his predictable usual leftward drifts. However, if a President Hillary tried to push the exact same agenda, conservatives would easily and quickly unite to limit her movement. Because conservatives would intantly rally together to oppose Hillary, but would be fractured if they tried to oppose McCain, the exact same left-leaning policy would have more success if pushed by a President McCain than if pushed by a Presdient Hillary. Recollect that it was Bill Clinton who got both NAFTA and welfare reform enacted, two legislative victories that a GOP president could never have gotten through congress. It is often the case that a left-leaning president has more legislative success when he moves right, and a right-leaning president has more success when he moves left. In actual fact, McCain would probably do more legislative damage to the conservative agenda than could Hillary, and I’m not at all sure his judicial appointees would be any better than hers.

So the ulitimate point of this long ramble is: If we had some good video that would help stop Obama in his tracks right now, we wouldn’t sit on it until he was anohter step closer to the White House. We’d have it out there now, and be happy to take our chances with Hillary in the fall. Come November, if she’s on the ballot, I will seriously consider voting for her, just like I already did in the Democratic primary here in Texas. I’m starting to like Hillary–a little– honest. I really do admire her fighting spirit in the face of the relentless obituary-writing the MSM has been giving the last couple of weeks. I guess maybe I’m starting to think of her as a kindred spirit because maybe now she undertands the treatment we conservatives get from the MSM 24-7-52-year in and year out.

Comment by mimi | 2008-05-17 09:06:06

Bathus,

Thanks for the honest commentary. All it did was put my mind at ease with regard to pulling the lever for McCain in Nov. should Obama be the nominee.

 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-17 11:52:10

sir, campaigns are cynical and play to win for their candidate. so would the repubs keep the tape till it suited them, daxx straight they would. i am a former repub so i am not a biased dem. i am an independent.

 

Comment by Gaylen | 2008-05-17 18:13:53

I appreciate your thoughts. Makes a lot of sense.

I could argue that I think you under estimate the number of people who are interested in ending the war in Iraq (or at least scaling it back), but that’s a debate neither of us could win decisively.

My concern is that there are more Republicans out there that are more interested in winning than with having their interests served. I know there are plenty of Dems like that, Obama’s popularity brings that into perfect clarity.

So while I agree with your analysis, that Clinton would inevitably face more opposition in pushing liberal legislation, that comes back to the fact that there are a lot of Republicans in Congress that would resist simply out of partisanship. Whether the legislation she’d push for is a decent compromise or not (and she has crossed the aisle to work with Republicans to get things done), it’d would be in their best interests to fight her. Their constituency would want to see them “stick it” to a Clinton.

It’s the same knee-jerk partisanship we’re seeing from Obamanites that their guy simply MUST be better than McCain simply because Obama isn’t a Republican. And some Dems have gone for it (see: super delegates and orgs like NARAL that have endorsed him).

Those are the Republicans that I would expect to have such a tape of Michelle Obama. The people that just want a Republican to win in November, regardless of McCain’s lukewarm conservatism. So they would be likely to hold it until it is it’s most lethal. Namely, if Obama wins the nomination and there’s only a few weeks before the GE.

Either of us could be right, we don’t know if there even is a video, let alone if the Republicans have it and which kind of Republicans have it.

Though, Larry’s post 5:07 PM about a Republican who shares your view point (and that of the Conservatives you’ve talked to) offering a bounty helps reinforce my opinion.

 
 

Comment by ChrisXP | 2008-05-17 02:35:12

And it also stands to reason that the GOP would be withholding such a video until October when it would send Obama reeling and give them little time to try to recover.

It’s also released in October, to take a stab at the Commies “October Revolution” celebration. :)

But the real reason is it’ll be too late to recover from the damage. The coup de grace is reserved for the very end, so the burial would be done before November.

It’s hard for supporters, since October is a long way off and does nothing to stop Obama’s nomination, but revenge is best served on a silver platter and at -429 degrees cold. :)

By how Obama is acting of late — all his speeches are in nervous staccato — could be he also knows what’s coming up. It could explain why he’s so crazy to coronate himself so early, hoping folks will just conclude it’s over, and give him the nomination (he’s used to freebies anyway, so it’s natural for him to be “entitled” to another one).

Obama is going to be the most despised Dem since Carter and Dukakis at this rate.

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-17 11:53:37

carter and dukakis were never despised. dismissed yes, despised no! obama now that is another story not because of race but because of his cynical use of it.

 

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-17 11:55:45

The myth of the October surprise has been completely negated.

It takes voters time to absorb real information, as we have seen.

Hillary squeaked out a win in Indiana, surprising us all. We thought she’d take it by 6 or 7 points.

But WVA…..more direct thermometer. There is no AA bloc there to soften the blow.

Neither will there be one in KY.

And it looks like her encroachment on his supposed age group and educated group that started showing up in PA is about to bloom in Oregon, too.

He’s tanking.

 
 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-05-16 23:57:03

Well Right Winger,

I agree with the part about his confusion about his racial identity. I spotted that up front. How that would play out with him as POTUS is scary. But I like to think the US Constitution is more than a piece of paper and that checks & balances are a real deterant. But then again, we’re knee deep in an Iraq war shit fest, so there goes that theory.

Now the part about this just being gossip is très interessant. Maybe I believe it because I want to. But my psychic side believes this: that GOP has more than this up their sleeve. They’ve already seen that the Dems and many Obama supporters in collusion with the msm let Obama out of 2 already racial incidents with Wright. I’m sure the mindset is that this could also be a wash and that people will again revisit all the slings and arrows of racism and let Obama live to see another day. They hate the Clintons this much.

I suspect, however, that they have back-up goods, long after Hillary is gone, that will, in fact, be their October surprise and from which will mean the point of no return for Obama.

And, my psychic senses tell me it won’t have anything to do with racism or sexuality.

Comment by Bathus | 2008-05-17 02:51:40

Well, yes, all sleeves on all sides are being filled to bursting.

It’s called politics. No saints in this business. . . except, I forgot, there is that new one: Saint Obama della Changa della Kooladda.

 
 

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-17 10:01:29

I do believe you’re a true right-winger. You guys love to attribute everything to one campaign or another without proof.

As for dirty tricks? I recall seeing the letter which outlined for Obama supporters JUST how to stir up the racial anger in SC. Remember that clever trick? And that one had proof.

I remember the feigned outrage over the MLK dust-up. And we have him on tape pulling that little diddy, and then later saying, “Oh, I don’t think she meant to be racist.”

Every little trick I’ve attributed and noted has proof attached.

Try it. It’s amazing the credibility gained from insisting that there be proof.

This is, indeed, still in the rumor stage. Highly likely, but nonetheless, rumor.

 
 

Comment by sandyR | 2008-05-16 23:37:11

I was just thinking about the “one minute shakespeare.” I can’t remember who did it.. maybe Mamet…don know. But I wonder if anyone could come up with a one minute Obama.
It’s like we have a Shakespeare sized chunk of info revealing this guy– it would be funny to see it condensed.

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-05-17 05:46:26

The bunnies! The bunnies did a whole series of one minute classics.

Well the bunnies sure have the right sort of ears to do a one minute Obama!!

 
 

Comment by CHRIS | 2008-05-16 23:46:09

Can someone please get hold of that tape and release now or post on Youtube or just send it to the drugdereport?

Does anyone have that tape of Michelle Obama saying “whitey”?

I think if it is for sell, we can raise the money and buy it

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-17 11:55:03

utube? naw, release it outside the country where it can’t be erased!

 
 

Comment by moose-14 | 2008-05-16 23:51:10

BTW, there have been some very enlightening comments, well thought and VERY impressive, in regard to this matter.

Thanks again to Susan, and Larry, and everyone else for their analysis, and contributions.

Sometimes, I stand in awe…

Comment by truthteller | 2008-05-17 11:46:58

Sometimes, I stand in awe…

Me too. You two are unbelievable.

Literally.

 
 

Comment by No On Obama | 2008-05-16 23:56:10

Just visited and signed up:

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Suggest everyone sign up and check it out!

 

Comment by J in Mn | 2008-05-17 01:03:53

Release the tape if it is true lol.

Comment by No_Obama_Trolls | 2008-05-17 11:51:36

nervous, ain’t you?…

 
 

Comment by Arabella Trefoil | 2008-05-17 05:29:06

It’s God’s fault, not Obama’s. Michelle was overcome by the spirit during a service. She grabbed the mike and started testifying. Michelle was speaking for the Holy Ghost on those tapes, not for her self.

‘And they attack this woman, this godly woman, this wife and mother, more precious than rubies, this African princess! White folks don’t understand our culture … + slams against Hillary etc. ad infinitum.’

There are lots of excuses that will convince true believers. Most people will not be.

 

Comment by karen for Clinton | 2008-05-17 06:32:09

Be assured the GOP is every bit as terrified at the notion of an obamacan nomination as we Hillary supporters are. They have taken a new view of Hillary and many of them are willing to accept her.

The republicans have been quite kind to her, in a non-dismissive way. They’ve been careful not to alienate her voters – unlike the DNC, much to our amazement and befuddlement!

The republicans I’ve spoken to without exception despise obama with a furious passion equal to mine.

There is no doubt if they cannot get Mac they would rather have Hillary this time around than Obama.

And many Republicans who are disillusioned after Bush fondly remember how they did better personally during the Bill Clinton years.

Republicans for Clinton are a fact that I never expected. Obama not only divided the dems in opposition to him he managed to turn reps to HER.

Comment by Deep Truths | 2008-05-17 07:52:00

Karen

You are very logical and by that I mean telling the obvious truth.

I believe that Democrats and Republicans must unite now against Obama because its not too clear to me that the MSM will turn around and undercut Obama for McCain’s sake.

Look how long it took for the Reverend Wright situation to unfold even though Hannity of Fox Republican News hammered and hammered it. That means some entity more powerful or richer (i.e. mideast oil) is gaming our electorial process. REzko/Auchi/Assamare (sp) are of new dichotomy: foreign influence. That have surpassed corporate influence and the mainstream media (CNN, NBC, NEW YORK TIMES, MSNBC et al) are going for who has the most bucks to hand out. The country be damned.

But they too are running scared that their message of Hillary quit, Obama IS the nominee, is not sticking with the American people. The longer Hillary stays in, the more likely the MSM collusion will be uncovered. They have no idea what is next for them if Obama is not the presumtive nominee. That’s why they are sooo illogical with the coverage of both Hillary and Obama.

He has been vetted or all of his connections and dubious judgement would have crippled him mid-way through the campaign.

The DNC as well is shaking right now. They had plans for Obama. Shoving all their agenda through their mallable DNC chosen candidate. He would be owned by them. Or so they thought. Now the DNC is owned by Obama. His campaign funds was the elixir that hooked the DNC, and now its his ability to use that against them.

The DNC is trapped, and the media is afraid.

We should all be very afraid if Obama somehow succeeds. It is the one thing that would bring Americans together – to fight an enemy within.

Comment by Deep Truths | 2008-05-17 07:55:11

correction: He has NOT been vetted.

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-17 10:08:12

The DNC has lined up nicely as well as the insiders in Washington. I don’t see any proof that they are “shaking” at all.

I think, instead, that they haven’t yet absorbed that many Hillary supporters are going to turn down this nomination of Obama. They keep thinking we’ll get over it.

They aren’t seeing the writing on the wall. They ignored the exit polls. They are ignoring the blogs. They are ignoring the stunning success of the Colbert radio show where sensible, hard-working Democrats from all over the country are calling in and saying, “I’m not taking it anymore.”

They are ignoring the messages sent when they ask for money and, instead, indulging in petty labeling of Hillary supporters as “vicious and vile.”

They haven’t shown a shred of commonsense yet. They really are going to try to ignore the obvious.

Obama is ignoring KY altogether. He turned down air-time in Oregon because he’d have to be with Hillary answering questions. He’s ignoring his loss in WVA. And the suits are all lining up doing exactly the same.

He cooked up feigned indignation over a remark Bush didn’t even make about him. LOL* That’s Obama’s way of saying that this is about the Fall nomination.

So I fear that the DNC has already made its choice and are, indeed, ignoring voters.

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-17 11:56:25

they are drunk on power just like the repubs were.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by karen for Clinton | 2008-05-17 06:39:42

What is likely to be the case regarding video footage which the GOP etc. has gathered is this:

Many individuals over the years carried camcorders and recording devices into Trinity, besides the official Trinity vids for sale bought by the media.

Those tapes with damaging footage do exist and have been and will continue to be sold to the highest bidder. If anyone thinks there will not be enough footage of the obama’s at worship in the hellbent church of hatred that will destroy him for good – then think again.

He was a high profile figure at that church and in Chicago and his lack of judgment and willingness to sell his soul and pay for play all along was caught by people who would sell him down river for a buck.

That there is video is certain. When it will come out is all that is in doubt.

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-17 10:24:18

That’s my sense, too, Karen. This could be racially very damaging to the country, and I certainly don’t want to see it before the votes are in. Keep Clinton out of this one.

She’s going to win in KY all on her own. She’s closed the gap in Oregon all on her own. She’ll pull ahead in the popular vote all on her own.

The momentum is actually with her, not him. His presumptive nominee stuff is a psychological bluff.

The press is going with it. The insiders are going with it.

but there’s nearly 50% of Democrats who are NOT going with it.

That’s a problem.

His move yesterday is now the joke…..ALL ABOUT OBAMA, as he turns Bush’s remarks into something they were not.

Pretty soon, the politicians are going to have to stop jump on his bandwagon. It makes them look too stupid. They’ll all sound like Clyburn if they don’t.

Kennedy’s remarks about leadership were viewed as a smackdown to Hillary and totally offended, yet again, half of the party.

Brazile’s remarks about the party now being urban and young led to MY reply for donations from the DNC to say: “Ask your young, urban voters for the money. Good luck.”

Dean’s push to end the election before PA spawned a radio host, Colbert, to start the “Turn Down” movement, and he’s now totally gone national in coverage. Women from all over the world are calling.

Hillary does have the momentum. It may end up and serve McCain, but one thing I know. The Democrats are toast.

Comment by karen for Clinton | 2008-05-18 07:10:17

I live in NEPA after a lifetime in NYC. I have heard the blowback from obama’s attitude and his supporters tactics here through word of mouth and on local radio shows all along. The radio show has been popular here and I’m very glad it is getting the national attention it deserves.

Steve is the real deal and he knows ob will need a miracle to get 20 percent of the NEPA vote.

Hillary country will turn to McCain country due to the bad impression obama left with voters due to his campaign tactics here. The supporter thugs were out in large numbers doing their strong-arming and came in by the bus loads from out of state. It was really ugly here and I’m sure that impression was felt across the country in many small towns. It was radical and hostile.

 
 
 

Comment by MyTownTalks | 2008-05-17 07:03:57

This is an interesting piece. I’ve read a lot of the comments and there are some well thought out comments. I posted a link to this story on my blog. Considering MO’s other comments it would not suprise me if such a tape existed. I would like to see it if it did. I took another posters advice and emailed Hannity. I do believe Hannity has something else. I heard him make a comment about other tapes after he released started the Wright controversy.

At one time I could live with Obama if he was the nominee, but there have been just so many questions raised about his character. I’ve heard comments come right out of Obama’s mouth( And yes he is running for pesident, so no one can dispute this as not fair) where he made the remarsk about a typical white person. To me that sounds a little racist. What exactly is a typical white person. Last time I looked around everyone is different. To me these are pretty mcuh racist remarks coming out of Obama’s mouth. It would not surpise me if there was video of Michelle Obama speaking very racist items.

I pleaded with Hannity to take the route of an American and if he had the tape to release it now. Hannity is a Republican but he is an American first. Appealing to his patrotism may help his decision to put it out if it does exist. Or at the very least start reporting on this rumor so more people will hear about it.

By the way this was one of the top searches on Google yesterday, which is how I found this post series. So word is getting around.

 

Comment by Dina | 2008-05-17 07:44:12

I am a repub and I must say that if anyone had told me a year ago, that some day I might actually like Hillary Clinton, I would have laughed. I have been a strong opponent, sorry guys!….but…truth is, I am warming up to her lately. I believe that in a general election, I would still vote for McCain (wasn’t my first choice either), but if Hillary beat him, I wouldn’t cry like I would if oBUMa won.

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-17 10:27:09

Quite a few of the more moderate Republicans I’ve listened to feel that she’s a lot more palatable than Obama. They see him as dangerously naive.

So do I.

 

Comment by ChrisXP | 2008-05-17 10:34:34

Some of us conservatives saw the choices early, and picked the less of three evils.

I couldn’t agree on half of Hillary’s platform on ideological grounds, but between more Empire building and a nub trying to be president, I’ll take half an agenda anyday.

Don’t think there’s any happy campers in this election. No one is getting their ideologue (except maybe Ron Paul types, but they’ll never get the brass ring).

 
 

Comment by Grant | 2008-05-17 09:31:37

Fact: This is a rumor

Quit talking about this as though you all have seen/heard such a tape. Anyone who believes this bologna before seeing/hearing such a thing is a windbag!

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-17 10:31:30

Huffington Post has approximately 70% rumor stories about Hillary. When it’s debunked, there’s a small blip.

Why should he be protected from the same tactics?

Examples: The “darkened picture” Who released the picture of him in native attire?

When the press got ahold of her dayplanner and the only story to come out of it was where she was when Bill was diddling Monica, then I knew that anything goes when it comes to Hillary.

So do not suggest the same isn’t true for Obama.

What’s good for the gander is good for the goose.

Enjoy. It’s just getting warmed up.

Oh, btw, I remember him insisting that “I won’t be swiftboated.”

:)

So he’s already reassured you he’s got this under control.

Comment by ChrisXP | 2008-05-17 10:41:53

Examples: The “darkened picture” Who released the picture of him in native attire?

That came out of nowhere. Which is the best type of “release”.

Folks just have to wait it out — patience is an asset — before those with consciences, finally start coming out of the closet with their “goods”.

Sitting on stuff is the norm. It takes some strong event to get people to see the “bigger picture” (Remember the Challenger accident? Many engineers knew the O-Rings had problems. Nothing made it to the light of day, until tragedy struck). Same applies to whatever dirt that’s sitting somewhere, either known or unknown.

Sure glad we don’t have instant elections!

 
 
 

Comment by Grant | 2008-05-17 09:32:51

How is this any different than the so called picture the GOP had of Bill Clinton burning the American flag. They promised that as an October suprise and it never materialized either!

Comment by 2008nowosci | 2008-05-17 10:13:47

Yes, Bill with others burn the AMERICAN FLAG . That time, Bill was a student He was fighting against Vietnam WAR!! Most of Americans were against that war . Am I wrong.??? Demonstration were going on all over USA and the whole world. Lot of American Flags were burn those times, not only by Bill!!!

 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-17 11:57:41

sweating aren’t you!

 
 

Comment by Lezident | 2008-05-17 09:44:48

What is the chance that Obama would let us know what’s going on with this video? Zero chance.

The Obama campaign will sweep this under the rug just like they did with Wright, Rezko, Ayers and everything else. The coverup on Wright was fully documented in the media since early 2007. Wright was interviewed by the NY Times and told them that he had been invited and then disinvited to the campaign kickoff. Instead, he was kept literally in the basement to pray with the Obamas but under strict order to not appear on camera.

Obama is not who he says he is.

http://lezident.com

 

Comment by ctw | 2008-05-17 10:20:20

I call bulls**t!

Mr. Johnson, all the videos in question can be purchased on the church’s Web site. I am certain that many people went through the whole collection of video’s when this non-scandal concerning Rev. Wright broke. Therefore, I am calling you out as a liar. If these videos exist, you can surely find them and we want to see them now.

Of course, this is not your motiviation. Your motivation is to start a campaign of rumor and innuendo. Yours is a campaign to bring last minute doubts into the minds of people that will still vote. Yours is a campaign that is not based on fact, not based on a candidate’s merit, and not based upon one speck of truth. Yours is a campaign of gossip. You should be ashamed of yourself.

You are set to destroy Barack Obama. I certainly hope that you rejoin the Republican Party, where you came from, after the convention. Good riddance to bad rubbish, fool!

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will beat Obama and his troll army | 2008-05-17 11:17:23

Do you read tea leaves as well as you read Larry’s mind? You are phenomenal!

 
 

Comment by YRM | 2008-05-17 10:22:41

Obama’s October Surprise will not be a single event, but the Olympics of swiftboating. It’s erroneous to think one or two viral videos represent the Karl Rove arsenal in the fall. You have to step back to 2004 to really appreciate the extent of neoconservative involvement in the Obama candidacy. He would not be in the U.S. senate at all but for the election rigging of the Illinois G.O.P., and would not have formed a presidential exploratory committee but for the deep pockets of the oil companies and the team of Bush political strategists who were on board from the outset.

For documentation of this, please see my article, which links to stories in the NYT, Time magazine, the London Times, Chicago Sun-Times and Tribune, etc. etc.
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

But getting back to the October Surprises, the biggest one as far as the Democratic Party is concerned is that McCain may be replaced at the G.O.P. convention in Sept. with a much stronger candidate (naturally, someone closely tied with Bush-Cheney). For Obama, it will be an indictment from Patrick Fitzgerald for corruption in relation to his years of promoting slumlords Tony Rezko and Allison Davis, both implicated in fraud and extortion. (The African American community will obviously not be happy to hear about this, either.) Even more hair-raising is the connection to two Iraqi billionaires, one who provided Rezko with the money to help buy Obama’s house, and the former Minister of Electricity who is living in Illinois, even though he’s wanted by Interpol. Rezko Watch has documented this. It’s also covered in the following article:
http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/OctoberSurprise.html

 

Comment by chief | 2008-05-17 12:02:09

Typical white-winger checking in. I will have to admit that like other conservatives, I have a little crush on Senator Clinton. This admission would have seemed impossible before this primary battle. Her strength, passion, and knowledge of policy, is just unmatched by any candidate in this election cycle. For that, she deserves kudos. I am glad to see that you guy’s have not thrown in the towel. This nominee will not be decided until the convention. It is very heartening to hear Hillary’s supporters are still fighting for the nomination. I knew that there were democrats that would not fall for Obama’s BS. This guy is not ready to be POTUS. He is being shoved down the throat of the American people by the far left, and their minions in the MSM. By the way, you guy’s missed yesterday’s memo from MSNBC that the Democratic Party had rallied behind Obama, and his appeasement policies. I knew that was a load of crap. If I had this “tape” I would have already put it out. Hopefully if someone in the GOP has it they will realize the danger of the Obama’s in the White House, and release it before he secures the nomination. I know that the left can’t understand how you guy’s have not jumped on the Obama bandwagon. They do not understand that we are American’s first, Democrats & Republicans second. The blame America first left will never understand that.

 

Comment by Ian | 2008-05-17 12:28:15

What a shameful stunt. You’re spreading false rumors because you don’t have any REAL “scandals” to hype. There is no video. In case you hadn’t noticed the GOP WANTS McCain to run against Hillary. That’s why they have been encouraging republicans to vote for Hillary at the primaries. They know McCain has a better shot against her.

If they had something as bad as you claim they have, they would want Obama to win the primary. What possible good would such an “october surprise” do if Obama isn’t even the candidate in November?

 

Comment by joe blow | 2008-05-17 14:17:05

Hey you stupid motherfuckers, how many superdelegates does Hillary have since West Virginia?

ONE!

LMAO!

ONE FUCKING SUPERDELEGATE AFTER A 40 POINT BLOWOUT?

YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME?

POOR POOR HILLARY…..LMAO

 

Comment by ctw | 2008-05-17 14:33:33

Shameful stunt is right. Larry C. Johnson will be remembered as the Jayson Blair of bloggers.

The whole premise that the Republicans have a video that nobody else can find or will before autumn is beyond ridiculous. This is a poorly thought out lie.

We won’t forget this, Johnson.

 

Comment by Vince Foster | 2008-05-17 15:20:01

This Michelle Obama video stuff is hilarious, and I hope this isn’t something the Republicans are putting all their hopes on. Because I have seen this tape, and let me tell you, it’s nothing. It’s not even on the same level of the Michelle Obama Tennessee YouTube ad.

McCain and the Republicans better have a whole lot more than this, otherwise Obama’s going to win 40 states.

 

Comment by ANdre | 2008-05-19 19:58:06

this site has the video that eveyone is talking about.,,I do not like what this site has to say but they have the video and will release it this wesnesday on his radio show….
you need to scroll down to this
A picture is worth a thousand words:
Is this who we want as “First Lady?”
then look in the reply post and you will find the information…

http://www.halturnershow.com has this video of the wife that we all are looking for

 

Comment by ANdre | 2008-05-19 19:58:58

http://WWW.HALTURNERSHOW.COM
HAS THE VIDEO WE ARE ALL LOOKING FOR AND WILL REVEAL IT ON HIS SHOW WESNESDAYNIGHT..

 

Comment by Jonjo | 2008-05-20 18:59:36

You ridiculous colonial hicks. Your country is great, but not for the reasons so many of your posters have said. It might seem odd to you, O Americans, but the fact is that your God DOES NOT EXIST. We got wind of this in Europe 200 years ago, but you don’t seem to have grasped this yet. Don’t you see how this makes you more or less on a par with the beared Koran-bashers you spend so much money trying to bomb? Please get back to being to progressive leader of the world – we need you!

J x

 

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And looking forward to participating.
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