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HOME &gt; PUBLICATIONS &gt; The Great Obama Swindle of 2008

* IN THIS SECTION

October 28, 2008

The Great Obama Swindle of 2008

Raymond Kraft

PART ONE

OBAMA: THE ILLEGAL ALIEN

I have become 100% convinced, to a moral certainty, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Barack Obama is not only not a "natural born citizen" as required by the U.S. Constitution to be president, but that he was not even born in the USA, not born in Hawaii, probably in Kenya, never naturalized. If he is elected, he will be the UnConstitutional President from the moment he takes the oath of office, the first president who is not a citizen of the United States.

Why I am so sure?

I was not convinced by the lawsuits filed by Philip Berg, Andy Martin, Jerome Corsi, and others seeking disclosure of Obama's birth certificate. I was not convinced by the books and articles that now abound contesting Obama's origins. I was convinced by the behavior of Barack Obama and his lawyers, asking the governor of Hawaii to seal Obama's birth certificate so it could not be seen, by anyone, and by the behavior of Barack Obama and his lawyers, sealing his records at Columbia University and Harvard Law. Barack Obama is hiding himself from America. And he wants to be POTUS, and Commander-in-Chief.

In the litigation business, one quickly learns that if somebody has a document that will be good for them, they can't wait to give it to you. And if somebody has a document that will hurt them, they'll be tap dancing faster than Richard Gere in Chicago to keep you from getting it.

Obama is tap dancing.

If I were Obama's lawyers, and if there was a good, authentic, birth certificate that proved Barack Obama's birth in Hawaii, I would tell him to instruct the Hawaiian Department of Health to provide a certified copy to every journalist who asked about it, to the Courts and plaintiffs in all the lawsuits, and to make the original available for inspection by any expert forensic document examiner any litigant or news agency engaged to examine the birth certificate for authenticity. I would tell him to come clean, and end the speculation. And I would tell him that the speculation could cost him the election.

But that's not what Obama's lawyers are doing, they're filling motions for summary judgment, not on the merits of the case, but on "technicalities," at least in the Berg case, arguing that Citizens, voters, do not have standing to enforce the United States Constitution, and at least one judge, Richard Barclay Surrick, has agreed.

But what Obama and his lawyers and the Democrat National Committee (DNC) are not doing is being open and honest with America. They're tap dancing faster than Richard Gere in Chicago. So we are forced to this conclusion as a matter of logical necessity:

1. If Barack Obama could produce a good birth certificate that would verify his status as a "natural born citizen," he would. Failing to do so can only hurt him. Failing to do so can cost him the election.

2. He hasn't, and is doing all possible not to.

3. Therefore, we can only conclude that he can't, and that his birth certificate, if it exists at all, is either altered, forged, or shows him born outside the U.S. We have to conclude that producing his birth certificate, if he can, will prove he is not eligible to be president, not a natural born citizen, or not a citizen at all. We can only conclude that Obama and his lawyers know that producing his birth records will hurt him even more than not producing them.

Now, I could be wrong. Barack Obama can prove me wrong by producing a good birth certificate. But he hasn't. Will he? Can he?

PART TWO

NO "STANDING" TO SUE?

In the case of Berg v. Obama, US Federal Judge Richard Barclay Surrick agreed with Obama's lawyers and ruled that Berg, as a citizen, as a voter, has no "standing" to enforce the United States Constitution. I have read that other agencies have asserted that only another presidential candidate has standing to sue respecting the qualifications of a candidate, presumably because, arguendo, only another presidential candidate could be injured (lose an election) as a result of a non-qualified candidate on the ballot.

This may be the most patently absurd, illogical, incomprehensible, astonishing, mind-boggling, and utterly stupid argument I have ever heard in my life – and from a Federal Judge, at that. And if I didn't make myself perfectly clear, let me know and I'll try again.

Let's do the analysis.

1. The U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT between The People, The States, and The United States, the federal government, that defines and limits the role of the federal government, and the rights of the States and The People, and, among other things, defines and limits the qualifications for president, i.e., that the president must be over the age of 35 years, and must be a natural born citizen.

2. Any party to a CONTRACT has standing to enforce it. This is as basic as it gets. Contract Law 101. First week of law school stuff. And it seems that lawyers and judges all over the country have forgotten all about it. Also, the Constitution was intended to benefit all American citizens, We, The People, and in basic contract law the intended beneficiaries of a CONTRACT, i.e., us, also have standing to enforce it.

3. If We, The People, do not have standing to enforce the CONTRACT, the U.S. Constitution, then it is unenforceable, and if it is unenforceable it is just a historic curiosity that means nothing. It’s just an old piece of parchment. But that was not the intent, and to give intent to the CONTRACT it must be enforceable by its parties and beneficiaries.

4. We, The People, have standing under the First Amendment "to petition the government for redress of grievances." If we have a grievance that a non-citizen, illegal alien, is running for president, I think the First Amendment unequivocally gives every American citizen standing to sue the government to redress that grievance and enforce the Constitution.

I think Judge Richard Barclay Surrick is dead wrong, illogically wrong, irrationally wrong, legally wrong, I think his legal analysis of this issue, in legalese, stinks.

PART THREE

THE DUTY OF CONGRESS

Article II, Section 1, requires that upon taking office the President of the United States shall take the following oath:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of the President of the

United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution

of the United States."

Article VI, Clause 3, requires that Senators and Representatives requires:

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution . . ."

Members of Congress take this oath:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

Having taken this oath, Sen. Barack Obama has violated his oath of office if he is refusing to disclose a birth certificate that proves his candidacy for president is unconstitutional, and I believe this is a mandatory basis for his impeachment.

Having taken these oaths, the President, the Vice President (an executive officer of the United States), every member of the Senate and House, every member of every State legislature, and every executive and judicial officers of the United States and of each State, has a mandatory duty per Article VI Clause 3 of the US Constitution to "support and defend" the Constitution, and that would necessarily include taking whatever action is necessary to assure that no person who does not meet the Constitutional requirement of "natural born citizen" ever becomes President.

And every Federal Judge, and every Justice of the Supreme Court, having taken this oath, also have a mandatory duty to "protect and defend" the Constitution by doing whatever is necessary to assure that no person who does not meet the Constitutional requirement of "natural born citizen" ever becomes President. Indeed, I believe that the Supreme Court has a sua sponte duty to resolve this dispute by ordering, on its own initiative, the immediate production of all of Obama's birth records in order to confirm his place of birth, and prevent the election of an UnConstitutional President. So far, all Justices of the Supreme Court have failed this mandatory duty.

So far, the President, the Vice President, every member of Congress, Democrats and Republicans alike, ever Federal Judge and Justice, every member of every State legislature, and every governor, have failed in this duty. They have all failed to fulfill their oaths of office. Every one. They must all demand that Sen. Barack Obama either (a) produce a good birth certificate proving his status as a "natural born citizen," or (b) withdraw his candidacy before November 4th.

All those who do not should be impeached for having failed their oath of office.

PART FOUR

THE GREATEST SWINDLE IN HISTORY

If Senator Barack Hussein Obama cannot prove that he is a "natural born citizen," then Obama, the Democrat National Committee, the Democrats in the Senate and House who support him, and others such as former president Bill Clinton who openly support him, have perpetrated the greatest swindle in history by falsely and fraudulently misrepresenting Obama as Constitutionally eligible to be president, concealing the truth about his place of birth, thereby inducing millions of Democrats by the fraud of concealment, by the lie of non-disclosure, by "trick and device," to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in the Barack Obama presidential campaign to elect an UnConstitutional President.

My opinion.

Note, this is a fraud perpetrated by Sen. Barack Obama, the DNC, and hundreds of Democrats in Congress, on their own constituency, the Democrat voters of America. It is a fraud of the Democrats, by the Democrats, and perpetrated on the Democrats. And it has defrauded Democrats out of more than $600 million.

According to their oaths of office, every Democrat member of Congress has an affirmative duty to assure that their presidential candidate is constitutionally qualified. As soon as questions about Obama's birth arose, every Democrat in Congress had a mandatory duty to confirm his eligibility by demanding release of his birth records. But, they have not. Not to my knowledge. Instead, every Democrat in Congress is complicit in the cover up – the cover up – of Obama's birth certificate, by failing to demand full disclosure to confirm his place of birth.

In my opinion, unless Obama can produce a good birth certificate proving that he is a "natural born citizen," then every Democrat member of Congress, every person managing Obama's campaign, every officer and director of the Democrat National Commitee, and every person who has ever taken an oath to "support and defend" the Constitution and is now supporting an UnConstitutional candidate for president, has participated in a vast left-wing conspiracy to defraud millions of Democrats out of hundreds of millions of dollars to elect an UnConstitutional President.

In my opinion, every one of these people, hundreds of them, should be prosecuted for fraud under the Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), for if Obama is not a "natural born citizen," that is what the Democrat National Committee (DNC) has become. And every one of them should be tried, convicted, and sent to prison for decades, for this is a $600 billion swindle of America's Democrats, a swindle perpetrated by the DNC and Barack Obama.

Now, I could be wrong. I could be wrong about every opinion I have expressed here.

Sen. Barack Hussein Obama can prove me wrong, quickly, simply, easily, by opening the doors of the hospitals and the Hawaiian Department of Health and showing us, showing America, showing the Democrats, all of his birth records.

Unless and until he does, I will remain convinced that Barack Hussein Obama is not an American citizen.

FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Raymond S. Kraft is an attorney and writer in Northern California. He can be contacted at rskraft@vfr.net.</description>
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<p>HOME &gt; PUBLICATIONS &gt; The Great Obama Swindle of 2008</p>
<p>* IN THIS SECTION</p>
<p>October 28, 2008</p>
<p>The Great Obama Swindle of 2008</p>
<p>Raymond Kraft</p>
<p>PART ONE</p>
<p>OBAMA: THE ILLEGAL ALIEN</p>
<p>I have become 100% convinced, to a moral certainty, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Barack Obama is not only not a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; as required by the U.S. Constitution to be president, but that he was not even born in the USA, not born in Hawaii, probably in Kenya, never naturalized. If he is elected, he will be the UnConstitutional President from the moment he takes the oath of office, the first president who is not a citizen of the United States.</p>
<p>Why I am so sure?</p>
<p>I was not convinced by the lawsuits filed by Philip Berg, Andy Martin, Jerome Corsi, and others seeking disclosure of Obama&#8217;s birth certificate. I was not convinced by the books and articles that now abound contesting Obama&#8217;s origins. I was convinced by the behavior of Barack Obama and his lawyers, asking the governor of Hawaii to seal Obama&#8217;s birth certificate so it could not be seen, by anyone, and by the behavior of Barack Obama and his lawyers, sealing his records at Columbia University and Harvard Law. Barack Obama is hiding himself from America. And he wants to be POTUS, and Commander-in-Chief.</p>
<p>In the litigation business, one quickly learns that if somebody has a document that will be good for them, they can&#8217;t wait to give it to you. And if somebody has a document that will hurt them, they&#8217;ll be tap dancing faster than Richard Gere in Chicago to keep you from getting it.</p>
<p>Obama is tap dancing.</p>
<p>If I were Obama&#8217;s lawyers, and if there was a good, authentic, birth certificate that proved Barack Obama&#8217;s birth in Hawaii, I would tell him to instruct the Hawaiian Department of Health to provide a certified copy to every journalist who asked about it, to the Courts and plaintiffs in all the lawsuits, and to make the original available for inspection by any expert forensic document examiner any litigant or news agency engaged to examine the birth certificate for authenticity. I would tell him to come clean, and end the speculation. And I would tell him that the speculation could cost him the election.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not what Obama&#8217;s lawyers are doing, they&#8217;re filling motions for summary judgment, not on the merits of the case, but on &#8220;technicalities,&#8221; at least in the Berg case, arguing that Citizens, voters, do not have standing to enforce the United States Constitution, and at least one judge, Richard Barclay Surrick, has agreed.</p>
<p>But what Obama and his lawyers and the Democrat National Committee (DNC) are not doing is being open and honest with America. They&#8217;re tap dancing faster than Richard Gere in Chicago. So we are forced to this conclusion as a matter of logical necessity:</p>
<p>1. If Barack Obama could produce a good birth certificate that would verify his status as a &#8220;natural born citizen,&#8221; he would. Failing to do so can only hurt him. Failing to do so can cost him the election.</p>
<p>2. He hasn&#8217;t, and is doing all possible not to.</p>
<p>3. Therefore, we can only conclude that he can&#8217;t, and that his birth certificate, if it exists at all, is either altered, forged, or shows him born outside the U.S. We have to conclude that producing his birth certificate, if he can, will prove he is not eligible to be president, not a natural born citizen, or not a citizen at all. We can only conclude that Obama and his lawyers know that producing his birth records will hurt him even more than not producing them.</p>
<p>Now, I could be wrong. Barack Obama can prove me wrong by producing a good birth certificate. But he hasn&#8217;t. Will he? Can he?</p>
<p>PART TWO</p>
<p>NO &#8220;STANDING&#8221; TO SUE?</p>
<p>In the case of Berg v. Obama, US Federal Judge Richard Barclay Surrick agreed with Obama&#8217;s lawyers and ruled that Berg, as a citizen, as a voter, has no &#8220;standing&#8221; to enforce the United States Constitution. I have read that other agencies have asserted that only another presidential candidate has standing to sue respecting the qualifications of a candidate, presumably because, arguendo, only another presidential candidate could be injured (lose an election) as a result of a non-qualified candidate on the ballot.</p>
<p>This may be the most patently absurd, illogical, incomprehensible, astonishing, mind-boggling, and utterly stupid argument I have ever heard in my life – and from a Federal Judge, at that. And if I didn&#8217;t make myself perfectly clear, let me know and I&#8217;ll try again.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s do the analysis.</p>
<p>1. The U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT between The People, The States, and The United States, the federal government, that defines and limits the role of the federal government, and the rights of the States and The People, and, among other things, defines and limits the qualifications for president, i.e., that the president must be over the age of 35 years, and must be a natural born citizen.</p>
<p>2. Any party to a CONTRACT has standing to enforce it. This is as basic as it gets. Contract Law 101. First week of law school stuff. And it seems that lawyers and judges all over the country have forgotten all about it. Also, the Constitution was intended to benefit all American citizens, We, The People, and in basic contract law the intended beneficiaries of a CONTRACT, i.e., us, also have standing to enforce it.</p>
<p>3. If We, The People, do not have standing to enforce the CONTRACT, the U.S. Constitution, then it is unenforceable, and if it is unenforceable it is just a historic curiosity that means nothing. It’s just an old piece of parchment. But that was not the intent, and to give intent to the CONTRACT it must be enforceable by its parties and beneficiaries.</p>
<p>4. We, The People, have standing under the First Amendment &#8220;to petition the government for redress of grievances.&#8221; If we have a grievance that a non-citizen, illegal alien, is running for president, I think the First Amendment unequivocally gives every American citizen standing to sue the government to redress that grievance and enforce the Constitution.</p>
<p>I think Judge Richard Barclay Surrick is dead wrong, illogically wrong, irrationally wrong, legally wrong, I think his legal analysis of this issue, in legalese, stinks.</p>
<p>PART THREE</p>
<p>THE DUTY OF CONGRESS</p>
<p>Article II, Section 1, requires that upon taking office the President of the United States shall take the following oath:</p>
<p>&#8220;I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of the President of the</p>
<p>United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution</p>
<p>of the United States.&#8221;</p>
<p>Article VI, Clause 3, requires that Senators and Representatives requires:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>Members of Congress take this oath:</p>
<p>&#8220;I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.&#8221;</p>
<p>Having taken this oath, Sen. Barack Obama has violated his oath of office if he is refusing to disclose a birth certificate that proves his candidacy for president is unconstitutional, and I believe this is a mandatory basis for his impeachment.</p>
<p>Having taken these oaths, the President, the Vice President (an executive officer of the United States), every member of the Senate and House, every member of every State legislature, and every executive and judicial officers of the United States and of each State, has a mandatory duty per Article VI Clause 3 of the US Constitution to &#8220;support and defend&#8221; the Constitution, and that would necessarily include taking whatever action is necessary to assure that no person who does not meet the Constitutional requirement of &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; ever becomes President.</p>
<p>And every Federal Judge, and every Justice of the Supreme Court, having taken this oath, also have a mandatory duty to &#8220;protect and defend&#8221; the Constitution by doing whatever is necessary to assure that no person who does not meet the Constitutional requirement of &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; ever becomes President. Indeed, I believe that the Supreme Court has a sua sponte duty to resolve this dispute by ordering, on its own initiative, the immediate production of all of Obama&#8217;s birth records in order to confirm his place of birth, and prevent the election of an UnConstitutional President. So far, all Justices of the Supreme Court have failed this mandatory duty.</p>
<p>So far, the President, the Vice President, every member of Congress, Democrats and Republicans alike, ever Federal Judge and Justice, every member of every State legislature, and every governor, have failed in this duty. They have all failed to fulfill their oaths of office. Every one. They must all demand that Sen. Barack Obama either (a) produce a good birth certificate proving his status as a &#8220;natural born citizen,&#8221; or (b) withdraw his candidacy before November 4th.</p>
<p>All those who do not should be impeached for having failed their oath of office.</p>
<p>PART FOUR</p>
<p>THE GREATEST SWINDLE IN HISTORY</p>
<p>If Senator Barack Hussein Obama cannot prove that he is a &#8220;natural born citizen,&#8221; then Obama, the Democrat National Committee, the Democrats in the Senate and House who support him, and others such as former president Bill Clinton who openly support him, have perpetrated the greatest swindle in history by falsely and fraudulently misrepresenting Obama as Constitutionally eligible to be president, concealing the truth about his place of birth, thereby inducing millions of Democrats by the fraud of concealment, by the lie of non-disclosure, by &#8220;trick and device,&#8221; to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in the Barack Obama presidential campaign to elect an UnConstitutional President.</p>
<p>My opinion.</p>
<p>Note, this is a fraud perpetrated by Sen. Barack Obama, the DNC, and hundreds of Democrats in Congress, on their own constituency, the Democrat voters of America. It is a fraud of the Democrats, by the Democrats, and perpetrated on the Democrats. And it has defrauded Democrats out of more than $600 million.</p>
<p>According to their oaths of office, every Democrat member of Congress has an affirmative duty to assure that their presidential candidate is constitutionally qualified. As soon as questions about Obama&#8217;s birth arose, every Democrat in Congress had a mandatory duty to confirm his eligibility by demanding release of his birth records. But, they have not. Not to my knowledge. Instead, every Democrat in Congress is complicit in the cover up – the cover up – of Obama&#8217;s birth certificate, by failing to demand full disclosure to confirm his place of birth.</p>
<p>In my opinion, unless Obama can produce a good birth certificate proving that he is a &#8220;natural born citizen,&#8221; then every Democrat member of Congress, every person managing Obama&#8217;s campaign, every officer and director of the Democrat National Commitee, and every person who has ever taken an oath to &#8220;support and defend&#8221; the Constitution and is now supporting an UnConstitutional candidate for president, has participated in a vast left-wing conspiracy to defraud millions of Democrats out of hundreds of millions of dollars to elect an UnConstitutional President.</p>
<p>In my opinion, every one of these people, hundreds of them, should be prosecuted for fraud under the Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), for if Obama is not a &#8220;natural born citizen,&#8221; that is what the Democrat National Committee (DNC) has become. And every one of them should be tried, convicted, and sent to prison for decades, for this is a $600 billion swindle of America&#8217;s Democrats, a swindle perpetrated by the DNC and Barack Obama.</p>
<p>Now, I could be wrong. I could be wrong about every opinion I have expressed here.</p>
<p>Sen. Barack Hussein Obama can prove me wrong, quickly, simply, easily, by opening the doors of the hospitals and the Hawaiian Department of Health and showing us, showing America, showing the Democrats, all of his birth records.</p>
<p>Unless and until he does, I will remain convinced that Barack Hussein Obama is not an American citizen.</p>
<p>FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Raymond S. Kraft is an attorney and writer in Northern California. He can be contacted at <a href="mailto:rskraft@vfr.net">rskraft@vfr.net</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: AnninCA</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnninCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary has never expressed interest in the VP position.

That was all the unity people talk.</description>
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<p>That was all the unity people talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-255715</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"They sure don't want the Clinton family in the White House-too much chance things will get "out of control."

There you have given the best reason why an Obama/Clinton ticket is not going to happen. Barack is too smart to get mixed up with the two of them. They brings - things - nasty things - out in each other. And I have no doubt that Bill would inevitably do something to sabotage Obama for beating Hillary. Consciously or not. It would happen. Bill Clinton is NOT to be trusted anywhere near the WH again.

No way. Hillary alone? Maybe. But not with Bill.

Besides, Barack doesn't need them a whit. You guys need to move on already. Hillary has. Notice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They sure don&#8217;t want the Clinton family in the White House-too much chance things will get &#8220;out of control.&#8221;</p>
<p>There you have given the best reason why an Obama/Clinton ticket is not going to happen. Barack is too smart to get mixed up with the two of them. They brings - things - nasty things - out in each other. And I have no doubt that Bill would inevitably do something to sabotage Obama for beating Hillary. Consciously or not. It would happen. Bill Clinton is NOT to be trusted anywhere near the WH again.</p>
<p>No way. Hillary alone? Maybe. But not with Bill.</p>
<p>Besides, Barack doesn&#8217;t need them a whit. You guys need to move on already. Hillary has. Notice?</p>
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		<title>By: Acanthus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acanthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 12:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a Pew poll released back last November,Bill Cosby was cited as a "good influence on the black community" by 85% of the respondents. Black respondents. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a Pew poll released back last November,Bill Cosby was cited as a &#8220;good influence on the black community&#8221; by 85% of the respondents. Black respondents. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary McGowan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary McGowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 08:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;"Obama’s campaign has been very clever in carving out a strategy to amass Democratic delegate votes, but its ... built largely on victories in states that no Democrat will win in November—that will fall apart under Republican pressure."

"And then where will we be?"&lt;/em&gt;

Exactly.

Or to offer a reply, We will, increasingly surrounded, still be fighting the pushers of the Anglo-Dutch oligarcial system, who regard us (and their minions, even) as cattle to be herded and slaughtered at their insane whim.

Had FDR lived some years longer, we could have cornered them through governmental regulation and a developed world where people could see their evil for what it is.

They sure don't want the Clinton family in the White House--too much chance things will get "out of control."

How many people know that there were at least two assassination/coup attempts against FDR? The first shot and killed a local politician on the stage with him (between the election and his inauguration, if memory serves). The second being the more widely known exposure of the plot to overthrow Roosevelt by General Smedley Butler.

They will stop at nothing. They can, however, be contained through the application of wise policies. That is what our American System was intended to do. 

Send these scum back to running casinos and investment houses. And tax them well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Obama’s campaign has been very clever in carving out a strategy to amass Democratic delegate votes, but its &#8230; built largely on victories in states that no Democrat will win in November—that will fall apart under Republican pressure.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;And then where will we be?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>Or to offer a reply, We will, increasingly surrounded, still be fighting the pushers of the Anglo-Dutch oligarcial system, who regard us (and their minions, even) as cattle to be herded and slaughtered at their insane whim.</p>
<p>Had FDR lived some years longer, we could have cornered them through governmental regulation and a developed world where people could see their evil for what it is.</p>
<p>They sure don&#8217;t want the Clinton family in the White House&#8211;too much chance things will get &#8220;out of control.&#8221;</p>
<p>How many people know that there were at least two assassination/coup attempts against FDR? The first shot and killed a local politician on the stage with him (between the election and his inauguration, if memory serves). The second being the more widely known exposure of the plot to overthrow Roosevelt by General Smedley Butler.</p>
<p>They will stop at nothing. They can, however, be contained through the application of wise policies. That is what our American System was intended to do. </p>
<p>Send these scum back to running casinos and investment houses. And tax them well.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253455</link>
		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 07:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;“Well, I can’t go quite that far. LOL*”&lt;/em&gt;

I can.  To underestimate a person who has inspired this kind of fervor is to do so at your own risk.  And I’m not going to risk my own freedoms because I simply couldn’t see past my own nose. Or because I was too hung up in the idea of how it might look that I bought into a conspiracy theory. Barack Obama is not what he seems. He has a sketchy past, especially during his college years that is out and out creepy. How many people have no recollection of their college years? Columbia U is in NYC for God’s sake. NYC!!! I respect that he took his studies seriously, but come on!!! It’s a very vibrant campus with lots of activities that engage the surrounding communities. And it’s a big melting pot. Race and racism is not over the top just walking around, especially the Columbia U area which borders Harlem, a black community. Yet Obama lived off campus all the way on the east side which amounted to a arduous commute in crosstown traffic. Totally unnecessary since Columbia’s surrounding community is very hospitable to students seeking housing. Something’s up there. And until he offers some insight, then I remain suspicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“Well, I can’t go quite that far. LOL*”</em></p>
<p>I can.  To underestimate a person who has inspired this kind of fervor is to do so at your own risk.  And I’m not going to risk my own freedoms because I simply couldn’t see past my own nose. Or because I was too hung up in the idea of how it might look that I bought into a conspiracy theory. Barack Obama is not what he seems. He has a sketchy past, especially during his college years that is out and out creepy. How many people have no recollection of their college years? Columbia U is in NYC for God’s sake. NYC!!! I respect that he took his studies seriously, but come on!!! It’s a very vibrant campus with lots of activities that engage the surrounding communities. And it’s a big melting pot. Race and racism is not over the top just walking around, especially the Columbia U area which borders Harlem, a black community. Yet Obama lived off campus all the way on the east side which amounted to a arduous commute in crosstown traffic. Totally unnecessary since Columbia’s surrounding community is very hospitable to students seeking housing. Something’s up there. And until he offers some insight, then I remain suspicious.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253444</link>
		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 07:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matterhorn,

Read this article if you want a perspective on the problem:

http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_3_black_family.html

To be sure, the problem at this point is complex.  But in the last 40 years, single parent homes have decimated the black underclass in a time period when blacks have made great strides. I agree with much of what Cosby addresses. And one of the things that has pissed me off with Obama is that he says nothing! And that’s just more of the same. Living in the urban black community and part of the working poor, I wish I could offer a perspective. I’ve worked with teen mothers and I have to say the problem is one of deeply rooted ignorance. An ignorance that is handed down through the generations. Schools don’t help because it is a bureaucracy that must serve first the teachers’ Unions. I am pro Union, but I have to say this is one Union that I think works against the best interests of the kids. What would be needed in the black community is a totally different approach that understands that middle class value systems are not in place in family units. Schools would have to on some level, recreate what’s lacking at home. Also, the single mother community is one that relies heavily on extended family units. Efforts must be  made to understand this and realize you are not just working with 2 parent households. But here’s where other blacks could be key. Helping to elevate education as something that is not only necessary, but desirable. Unfortunately, during the Reagan Years a culture emerged that devalued education and it’s spreading in the same way drugs did to white America, too. Hence, the emergence of hip hop culture and rap. Also, the stupidity of validating black vernacular under Ebonics encouraged AAs not to learn standard English. If you can’t speak standard English you won’t want to read. If you don’t read, then you are functionally illiterate and cut off from education.

Look I could go on. It’s complex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matterhorn,</p>
<p>Read this article if you want a perspective on the problem:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_3_black_family.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_3_black_family.html</a></p>
<p>To be sure, the problem at this point is complex.  But in the last 40 years, single parent homes have decimated the black underclass in a time period when blacks have made great strides. I agree with much of what Cosby addresses. And one of the things that has pissed me off with Obama is that he says nothing! And that’s just more of the same. Living in the urban black community and part of the working poor, I wish I could offer a perspective. I’ve worked with teen mothers and I have to say the problem is one of deeply rooted ignorance. An ignorance that is handed down through the generations. Schools don’t help because it is a bureaucracy that must serve first the teachers’ Unions. I am pro Union, but I have to say this is one Union that I think works against the best interests of the kids. What would be needed in the black community is a totally different approach that understands that middle class value systems are not in place in family units. Schools would have to on some level, recreate what’s lacking at home. Also, the single mother community is one that relies heavily on extended family units. Efforts must be  made to understand this and realize you are not just working with 2 parent households. But here’s where other blacks could be key. Helping to elevate education as something that is not only necessary, but desirable. Unfortunately, during the Reagan Years a culture emerged that devalued education and it’s spreading in the same way drugs did to white America, too. Hence, the emergence of hip hop culture and rap. Also, the stupidity of validating black vernacular under Ebonics encouraged AAs not to learn standard English. If you can’t speak standard English you won’t want to read. If you don’t read, then you are functionally illiterate and cut off from education.</p>
<p>Look I could go on. It’s complex.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253434</link>
		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 07:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've not heard him make any statments with regard to AA issues during this election. Perhaps the writer is talking about his time in Chicago? 

But the write lost me with the quote as well.

Huh????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not heard him make any statments with regard to AA issues during this election. Perhaps the writer is talking about his time in Chicago? </p>
<p>But the write lost me with the quote as well.</p>
<p>Huh????</p>
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		<title>By: Minina</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253417</link>
		<dc:creator>Minina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 06:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, Adolph Reed was my professor at another university!!! Unless he's changed (unlikely, as this was just a few years back), Adolph is very interested in the (so-called obsolete) working class. Although he does not touch on the subject of class in that article, I can see it informing his choice to not support Obama. After all, he understands the injustices of race as having at least something to do with class; the intersection of race and class has informed some of Adolph's writings from a few years back. 

Adolph and I had a disagreement on the nature and role of trade unions, with his opinion more nuanced than mine (I was a first year grad student then). But for the most part I respect his opinions on a range of subjects. Good to know he's not jumped on the bandwagon like so many of his colleagues in academia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, Adolph Reed was my professor at another university!!! Unless he&#8217;s changed (unlikely, as this was just a few years back), Adolph is very interested in the (so-called obsolete) working class. Although he does not touch on the subject of class in that article, I can see it informing his choice to not support Obama. After all, he understands the injustices of race as having at least something to do with class; the intersection of race and class has informed some of Adolph&#8217;s writings from a few years back. </p>
<p>Adolph and I had a disagreement on the nature and role of trade unions, with his opinion more nuanced than mine (I was a first year grad student then). But for the most part I respect his opinions on a range of subjects. Good to know he&#8217;s not jumped on the bandwagon like so many of his colleagues in academia.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253192</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 03:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting post by Dr. Reed, who has close hand knowledge of Obama.
I disagree on a couple of points. First, Reed plays the far left game of cherry picking Clinton failures in order to descredit the finest governing record of our time. And he uses a vague description of Bill's supposed racial politics. Please.
Then he says Hillary can't win against McCain. Double please. Hasn't he noticed the ton of political capital we have just now? Even Obama might win the ge.
The problem is Obama's ignorance and inexperience. He's wasted capital already with Wright and BitterGate. He would waste more in office with the string of far left cliches he's been reciting. And he has no grasp of policy, unless ruining the Clinton policies of healthcare reform and bipartisanship and spouting a liberal wish are valid qualifications.
This is a precious moment of opportunity for the party, and we can't afford to waste it on a clueless poser with a bag of rhetorical tricks.
http://a-civilife.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting post by Dr. Reed, who has close hand knowledge of Obama.<br />
I disagree on a couple of points. First, Reed plays the far left game of cherry picking Clinton failures in order to descredit the finest governing record of our time. And he uses a vague description of Bill&#8217;s supposed racial politics. Please.<br />
Then he says Hillary can&#8217;t win against McCain. Double please. Hasn&#8217;t he noticed the ton of political capital we have just now? Even Obama might win the ge.<br />
The problem is Obama&#8217;s ignorance and inexperience. He&#8217;s wasted capital already with Wright and BitterGate. He would waste more in office with the string of far left cliches he&#8217;s been reciting. And he has no grasp of policy, unless ruining the Clinton policies of healthcare reform and bipartisanship and spouting a liberal wish are valid qualifications.<br />
This is a precious moment of opportunity for the party, and we can&#8217;t afford to waste it on a clueless poser with a bag of rhetorical tricks.<br />
<a href="http://a-civilife.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://a-civilife.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fem Dem inPa.</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-252583</link>
		<dc:creator>Fem Dem inPa.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keeulay

I won't vote for Obama because he said he dossn't need my vote. I'm a boomer-aged over-educated female from a steelmaking community who had to leave home and family to make a living. Now he tells me I'm bitter and I cling to my religion and I fear anyone who is not like me? I'm sorry. He doesn't get to go there. NOT THIS TIME! I spent my life with people not like me trying to teach their children to think for themselves and to make their lives better through education. His arguments don't fly with me, and I've never heard or seen him lead one thing except the parade to the money trough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeulay</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t vote for Obama because he said he dossn&#8217;t need my vote. I&#8217;m a boomer-aged over-educated female from a steelmaking community who had to leave home and family to make a living. Now he tells me I&#8217;m bitter and I cling to my religion and I fear anyone who is not like me? I&#8217;m sorry. He doesn&#8217;t get to go there. NOT THIS TIME! I spent my life with people not like me trying to teach their children to think for themselves and to make their lives better through education. His arguments don&#8217;t fly with me, and I&#8217;ve never heard or seen him lead one thing except the parade to the money trough!</p>
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		<title>By: kanaughty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-252495</link>
		<dc:creator>kanaughty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>plus he has to pay them... what's wrong with that picture... isn't he supposed to be all inspiring without money being thrown around.. hillary would never have to pay bloggers to go on all these different posts and infact we donate to her, because she still inspires us and we admire her fight more everyday...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plus he has to pay them&#8230; what&#8217;s wrong with that picture&#8230; isn&#8217;t he supposed to be all inspiring without money being thrown around.. hillary would never have to pay bloggers to go on all these different posts and infact we donate to her, because she still inspires us and we admire her fight more everyday&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kanaughty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-252482</link>
		<dc:creator>kanaughty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah everyday i am like, what the hell happened to these people. they used to seem fair and unbiased... but something happened... did murdoch buy that family of stations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah everyday i am like, what the hell happened to these people. they used to seem fair and unbiased&#8230; but something happened&#8230; did murdoch buy that family of stations?</p>
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		<title>By: kanaughty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-252470</link>
		<dc:creator>kanaughty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said, we can vote for whoever we want for whatever reason... we do not have to fall in line because a party tells us too. we are americans first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said, we can vote for whoever we want for whatever reason&#8230; we do not have to fall in line because a party tells us too. we are americans first.</p>
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		<title>By: kanaughty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-252459</link>
		<dc:creator>kanaughty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, let's just say that so far 75% of americans have chosen Hillary and the republicans over obama, so that would mean that only 25% of america thinks that obama has their best interests at heart... like you obama folks always say, "do the math"...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, let&#8217;s just say that so far 75% of americans have chosen Hillary and the republicans over obama, so that would mean that only 25% of america thinks that obama has their best interests at heart&#8230; like you obama folks always say, &#8220;do the math&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kanaughty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-252452</link>
		<dc:creator>kanaughty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whatever, even obama has said that if he was actually in the senate at the time, he is not sure how he would have voted... his plagiarized speeches mean crap... plus he always votes to continue to fund the war... so the iraq war thing is over.. so move on with your arguments. we're there, us hillary folks accept that minds have been changed towards the war since then and we have found out about the bush lies. plus bush took advantage of the passage of the vote by not having a good plan to begin with in eventually getting us out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whatever, even obama has said that if he was actually in the senate at the time, he is not sure how he would have voted&#8230; his plagiarized speeches mean crap&#8230; plus he always votes to continue to fund the war&#8230; so the iraq war thing is over.. so move on with your arguments. we&#8217;re there, us hillary folks accept that minds have been changed towards the war since then and we have found out about the bush lies. plus bush took advantage of the passage of the vote by not having a good plan to begin with in eventually getting us out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kanaughty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-252438</link>
		<dc:creator>kanaughty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also if obama is actually having to pay bloggers than they must not be inspired enough to do blogging without getting paid, or these bloggers are just greedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also if obama is actually having to pay bloggers than they must not be inspired enough to do blogging without getting paid, or these bloggers are just greedy.</p>
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		<title>By: kanaughty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-252430</link>
		<dc:creator>kanaughty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but he did not have to vote against the war cause he wasn't in the senate at the time. a speech doesn't make for a vote. and again if all he has are speeches and no actions, then why would i want to hire him for president. 

i would want someone who actually has real stuff on their resume and great references, not someone with a resume filled with only their college education and their mission statement section while their references are so far shady characters... 

i don't mind that hillary voted for the war because on things like war attitudes change. and also the lies came out later that there was no wmd, not before the vote. but lastly she was the senator of new york the city that was attacked on 9/11... and eventhough we all know that that had nothing to do with iraq, bush had a manipulative way of tieing the two together so that clinton's constituency would have mobbed her if she had voted against it... yet again proving that she actually listens to the people she represents... and i think that it is great that she has changed her mind on it because it shows that she can change and that she is not stubborn like our current president.  

and the thing that irks me most is that people forget that at that moment in time you were unpatriotic if you were against the war... they stopped playing your albums if you were against the war... it was quite a mob mentality that you basically had to hide the fact that you didn't want the us to be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but he did not have to vote against the war cause he wasn&#8217;t in the senate at the time. a speech doesn&#8217;t make for a vote. and again if all he has are speeches and no actions, then why would i want to hire him for president. </p>
<p>i would want someone who actually has real stuff on their resume and great references, not someone with a resume filled with only their college education and their mission statement section while their references are so far shady characters&#8230; </p>
<p>i don&#8217;t mind that hillary voted for the war because on things like war attitudes change. and also the lies came out later that there was no wmd, not before the vote. but lastly she was the senator of new york the city that was attacked on 9/11&#8230; and eventhough we all know that that had nothing to do with iraq, bush had a manipulative way of tieing the two together so that clinton&#8217;s constituency would have mobbed her if she had voted against it&#8230; yet again proving that she actually listens to the people she represents&#8230; and i think that it is great that she has changed her mind on it because it shows that she can change and that she is not stubborn like our current president.  </p>
<p>and the thing that irks me most is that people forget that at that moment in time you were unpatriotic if you were against the war&#8230; they stopped playing your albums if you were against the war&#8230; it was quite a mob mentality that you basically had to hide the fact that you didn&#8217;t want the us to be there.</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-252396</link>
		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read article re. Obama hiring 400 bloggers to work things in his favor on the net, so don't believe anything you read, and stick to your own convictions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read article re. Obama hiring 400 bloggers to work things in his favor on the net, so don&#8217;t believe anything you read, and stick to your own convictions.</p>
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		<title>By: kanaughty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-252386</link>
		<dc:creator>kanaughty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love this quote above, awesome. this explains it all rather nicely why i don't like him and would never vote for him ever. i would not even want him to mow my lawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love this quote above, awesome. this explains it all rather nicely why i don&#8217;t like him and would never vote for him ever. i would not even want him to mow my lawn.</p>
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