The Ted Kennedy Situation [UPDATED with Hillary Clinton's statement]
By SusanUnPC on May 17, 2008 at 12:05 PM in Current Affairs
UPDATE, simple and dignified:
Statement from Hillary Clinton
“My thoughts and prayers are with Sen. Ted Kennedy and his family today. We all wish him well and a quick recovery.”
[AN ADDITIONAL UPDATE BY ME IS BELOW.]
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[It goes without saying that we are all saddened by this medical crisis, and are very upset for his family, particularly all of the children of his slain brothers who he helped to raise.]
Why are all the networks talking about him in the past tense? Methinks they know something they haven’t told us yet.
This next item absolutely floored me. In Obama’s statement, he said:
He
wasis one of my favorite people.
Uh. Okay. Isn’t that what you’d say about an old fraternity brother who died? And old neighborhood pal? But a United States senator? [I corrected the "was" to "is" -- it was hard to hear the first time because of a lot of noise in the background, but I listened again, and made the change.]
And CNN has been talking about the EFFECT that Kennedy’s condition (or death) would have on Obama’s campaign, which strikes me as utterly distasteful. One CNN reporter said:
Barack Obama is expected to come up here to Portland tomorrow but, depending on how things go with Senator Kennedy’s health — if things take a turn for the worse — it could UP-END THIS CAMPAIGN.
Heavens to mercy, let’s pray that that doesn’t happen!
UPDATE BY SUSAN: The CNN reporter says that Obama is enroute, following his Roseburg, Oregon rally to Portland for a rally. WE’LL SEE WHAT HE’s MADE OF then. Will he just go along with the campaign schedule? Or will he do what Hillary would do, and suspend the campaign, and travel to be with Kennedy’s family? (I KNOW IN MY BONES that that is what Hillary Clinton would do.)
Fox News just read a very classy statement from John McCain.
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Obama makes EVERYTHING about him.
He’s disgraceful!
And notice, John McCain did nothing of the sort, like Obambi did.
John McCain’s statement was gracious and PRESIDENTIAL.
Nuff said.
Here is the actual quote:
Thats a nice thing to say about someone at this time. I don’t see how thats any more or less dignified than what Hillary said.
How does Obama make this about him? Because he used the word “my”? Hillary said “my” also.
Hypocrites.
Further, he actually said “is one of” not “was one of” like SusanI’maliar said above.
Get your facts straight, liar.
Pathetic.
Jason: You should learn from Larery and Susan who have the honesty and integrity of correct their
bads and not hide them. Check the post above again.
From Susan:
What do I need to learn, exactly Andy, that once they are called out for lying they will make a correction?
How about fact checking in the first place so such a biased and basic mistake wasn’t made in the first place?
Obama LIES.
1.) Selma Got Me Born – LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili – LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam – LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your
wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience – LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life – LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 – LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois – LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted – LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill – LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records – LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA – LIAR, the Candian
Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your
campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of
Israel.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet – LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida – LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks – and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan – LIAR, no you didn’t.
33.) I won Nevada – LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count – LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide – LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend – LIAR, that friend is
threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – LIAR, you take loads of of it.
40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists – LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and
counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace – LIAR, Tom, who started
MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words – LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate – LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate – for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich,
who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date – AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail – LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone – LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.
49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country – LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vain of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support – LIAR, your wife has
received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company – LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.
52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair – LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% (above) her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!
53.)I Barely Know Rezko – Only 5 Billed Hours – LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000.
54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly – LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko ($150K) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church – LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time – LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message – hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK – that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko – LIAR, you are not only
connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have
helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had
millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube – LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”
EXCELLENT SAWBUCK….I SALUTE YOU….
Thanks, American Sawbuck, for exposing once again Obama’s stinky garbage.It is piling high as the days go by.
american sawbuck…say it loud, say it often!
Bravo!
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You’ve been a naughty boy and posting links to site(s) that aren’t allowed.
Have to keep spammers at bay!
YEP!
Are you sure he said “was”? WSJ says he said “Kennedy is” Is there a video?
CNN has added that Obama sends prayers, etc.
“He is one of my favorite people.” is the quote CNN added (and no quotes from anyone else).
Teddy is resting comfortably. He is lucky to have good health insurance, something that has been Hilary’s main purpose in life.
Obama sends prayers?
We need to put up a shield to protect Senator Kennedy from that kind of prayer. What a fake hollow jerk Obama is.
Ted K. was a Murderer,not convicted,but he ran away from Mary Jo Kerpecti .Can’t remmember how to spell her name. Every with a memory should remmember this. I wish him well.
He did make some calls from his room. Any statements from HRC.
Look, he’s 76 years old and has lived a long, full and rich life. I don’t feel sorry for him. It might just be his time to go.
r not u little practical ???
People die. It’s a part of life. Ted Kennedy is lucky to have lived to an old age. The rest of the Kennedy men have not been so fortunate as he.
HEY BUDDY
THAT WAS A JOKE,,
DO NOT GET SERIOUS
WE ALWAYS TRY PICKING ON EACH OTHER SOMETIMES ,,,,JUST FOR FUN
His family is grieving, this is not about us.
CNN is exploiting it to the hilt. All shots include Obama. Blll Schneider was talking about his Obama endorsement was a milestone in this nation’s history.
If he passes, we are going to hear nothing but his speeches of endorsement.
“a milestone in this nation’s history” WTF
Endorsing the candidate that IS electable and is the most qualified would be a milestone. MA didn’t even go for obama…not much of an endorsement, now was it.
Meanwhile, I hope Kennedy recovers.
Hillary. you are a liar. As big as your backside.
Please delete that comment.
He is a champion for liberal causes, largely for health care for children. He also is full of life at age 76, remains one of the most productive members of the Senate, and has plenty still to offer our country as a U.S. Senator.
People DIE when they get old. It’s a fact of life. Our country has gotten wayyy too squeamish and fearful over that fact. There is nothing wrong about dying after a full life at 76. If you believe in an after life, then he’ll be with God. If you don’t, then he’ll be in no pain. Death is nothing to be upset about. If he goes now that’s his time to go and he’s left his legacy. There’s nothing harsh or wrong about saying that. Death is part of life…we’re all going to go sometime.
I got news for you, kid. 76 in today’s world is not that old.
I am going to interrupt here. The specualtion and negativity below are way out of control.
Up until John Jr., JFK’s son died, the Kennedy’s and Clintons were very close.
I have no particulars – just a lifetime of knowing the Kennedy’s. After the “crash” of John Jr’s plane, Teddy went rigid. You could see it in his stance, voice and persona. It seems, the family felt it was some kinda of “planned” accident that killed John Jr.
Ted rallied Cape Cod boats to search for the downed plane, John Jr.s, his wife’s and sister-in-laws bodies. A couple of days later, Bill Clinton sent a couple of Navy vessels, and Ted and the family males were out on the water everyday regardless of weather.
There is lots of speculation about it – but no one has any FACTS. The only known FACT is that was when the friendship between the Clintons and Kennedy’s came to an abrupt halt. For anyone who cares, other than Joe Jr., Ted’s oldest brother, all the other Kennedy male deaths tie directly back to the Bush family.
Things are sad enough – let the Bots put forth their vile conspiracy theories. For us here at NQ, lets not add incindary matter to an already painful situation.
Thanks.
You’re reading wayyy too much into my comment. I honestly don’t get why people get so freaked out over an old person dying from natural causes. Kennedy’s history with the Clintons has *nothing* to do with my comment.
If it’s his time to go, it’s his time to go. Be at peace with death. It’s not a tragedy when you are old, it’s what we all will go through eventually.
You mean like the time less spent by poor Mary Joe Kopechne? (sp)
OT
I have seem mentioned on several blogs that a UN rep is coming in to evaluate charges of racism regarding the election. Does anyone have a source for this and did the Obama campaign call them in?
Where’s the UN rep to respond to all the sexism? Are they going to cart away Chris Matthews?
If NOW or Emily’s List were really together, they’d have the guts to start a serious lawsuit against MSNBC for “pimp” remarks, etc and a concerted campaign they have waged against Hillary Clinton.
Why MSNBC has been allowed along with NBC to pursue a one sided relentless sexist attack on HRC’s character,gender,etc, when there has been little balance of opinion remains a mystery.
The airways belong to the people with the express intention that the law prohibits any TV station to act as a representative of one candidate, or any issue for that matter.
The insulting sexist behavior of Matthews,Olbdermann,Shuster,Mitchell,Madow, are only part of their acttive discrimination. They have engendered misinformation and promoted talking heads and political Obama surrogates without balance.
Even Fox News who I hardly revere has shown both sides more fairly on all of these issues, so that at least there is a more balanced
Obama better hide from the UN rep then.
I have talked to a lot of people, who say they do not care who wins the nomination and that Obama’s inexperience does not matter as they feel he will be a puppet for the legislature, Kennedy, specifically. I was just thinking about that this morning before the news hit. Who will guide Obama if he is elected. He’s proven that he is not capable to doing it on his own; no more than Bush was. I hope people can remember that Bush actually had more experience than Obama before he took office, and look at the mess he made. I hope it makes people think twice about Obama’s inexperience.
Kerry – God forbid!
maybe for a month.
Then Obama will get tired of it and blow him off.
For guidance he’ll look to Daschle, Dean, Reid, Pelosi, that idiot Brazile, and Brezinski. Who’d I miss?
May prayers are with the Kennedy family and I wish Senator Kennedy a speedy recovery.
CNN’s coverage of his health crisis and putting the Obama spin into it is disgraceful indeed! It is also certainly telling of the bias and preoccupation of personality that “news” organization has succumbed to.
yeah, i am not liking how obama is injecting himself into every political story right now… shame on him. ted kennedy should be his own story period, the same way as bush’s remarks that never said obama’s name should have been his own story about making more bushism remarks only… and sincerely, get well soon senator kennedy for your family
obama knows no shame.
yup
they will try to get sympathy votes now
so
lets pray for kennedy
but do not feel sorry for OBAMA
stay focused
MAKE CALLS
DONATE
MAKE CALLS
DONATE
prayers for the family and let Obama not make a speech about carrying on a legacy, it would be a disgrace and sadly I picture Axelrove writing it already..
it sounds like they administered the de-clotting agent at the first hospital and he had another stroke midfight to MASS GEN this happens too much when they give the DCA, it can cause excessive bleeding…
and not to be insensitive, but I am in health insurance for my livelihood, and he is indeed lucky his family has the Congressional health plan or he would not have been airlifted and if he had been his family would be looking at a 50k bill
the nation needs UHC asap…
now Faux has MORE reaction from Obama who has been in contact with the family
all Snobobama all the time
ugh
oh yeah
i don,t want him to die
or obama will claim all the kennedy legacy
oh
they will do anything or say anything to win
Isn’t it, though, they miss the significance, entirely!
Stupid people.
I too wish the best for Senator Kennedy and his family. This is about him and his family and not about Senator Clinton, Senator Obama or Senator McCain..
Of course they would make statements. This is common practice and common decency. Trying to turn it into anything else is tasteless IMO. If CNN is doing so, then that should not surprise anyone. They have no integrity or class. Where’s the surprise in that?
I hope that he recovers fully so that the good people of Massachusetts can send him an appropriate message and vote his old butt out of office so he can get all of the rest he obviously needs!
i hate kennedy for betraying clintons
but i pray to that almighty god that he gets better soon for all his supporters and his followers .he might be a nice man ,but he did injustice to hillary ,
but like hillary says,,,forgive and forget ===
plus he needs to live ,,he needs to live to see that HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON can survive without him
he did an injustice to the party.
He was in a power play, and not thinking about the country at all.
He is not a nice man. As much as I wish any human being well at a time like this, I will never forget what he did in 1969 to Mary Jo Kopeckne. That was reprehensible. So much for “noblier aspirations”, the only aspiration he had was to save his own butt and leave an injured women to drown. It took him more that 12 hours to report his “accident”, after he talked with his lawyer
Maybe there are alot of younger people here who didn’t see what he did to Mary Jo Kopechne? It was really very ugly.
Hi Pats. Hooray, To many other people are afraid to even mention it.Being QUIET is there best friend.
This is sad and I certainly send prayers to the family.
McCain has known Kennedy a lot longer than Obama has. Probably knows him better.
And speculating about the political consequences of a politician’s death or illness is par for the course. When Paul Wellstone (D-MN) died, there was a lot of discussion about who would replace him and what his chances would be against the GOP. When Tim Johnson (D-SD) underwent brain surgery, there was a lot of talk about how his absence or possible death or disability would affect the balance of the Senate.
Distasteful, perhaps, but these sorts of things are on people’s minds and have to be discussed.
our not ready for prime time candidate? Good thing Hillary is making up ground and has stolen his momentum, otherwise we’d have more months of this gaffer.
I am sorry but I can’t help but think how nice it must be to have stellar health care coverage at a nice cheap price, even if you are a multi-millionaire. I am thinking that my single pay HMO, which costs just shy of $900 per month for one person ($2000k for a family) wouldn’t be air lifting me to one of the most renowned hospitals in the country. In fact, I would imagine I wouldn’t “make it”. Then too, I am lucky I can pay the premiums. How many people have no health care insurance and how many people this year will go bankrupt due to a stroke, even WITH health insurance. This all brings me to wonder why a lucky Liberal man like Ted Kennedy would endorse a person whose “free market” health care plan just plain won’t work, considering the States are in the pockets of health care insurers.
That having been said, I hope the guy makes a recovery. I also hope every common person in America who has the same problem today has a recovery.
I AGREE WITH YOU
well lets hope he is ok
but lets not waste time
everyone get to work
make calls
calls
calls
my thought also.
yes we would not have been airlifted…
which actually may be good in some cases, I see a poster on TL has discussed this point, the old fashioned roto rooter for clots can work better at older hospitals than the new techniques, and if they administered the DC agent as it seems they did it sometimes causes secondary tertiary strokes due to excessive bleeding and it sounds like that may be the case here..
every one in this country should be able to be taken to the best facility for care regardless of income
that is among the reasons Hillary is so important to all of us, UHC is a must have
Because he probably doesn’t give a shit who lives or dies outside of his decrepit clan like most two-faced politicians.
The good news though since he is a politician he’s quite replaceable should he not be able to do whatever senators do.
Things will go on without him thanks to Democracy.
I don’t know, even if Kennedy doesn’t give a shit, I don’t celebrate his pain.
I would though, celebrate the death of wannabe torturer, acting on behalf of the US military, though, or maybe I mean someone like Hitler, or Mengele, I’d not feel guilty about his death, I’d consider it a win for humanity, and intelligent people, everywhere.
Ditto Uppity….
How do you know Kennedy’s health insurance is covering the airlifting and maybe its just the fact that he is really wealthy?
You are absolutely shameless in how you try to spin this into some negative about Obama. You are like a wannabe Karl Rove.
You’re pathetic.
Barack Obama’s No Health Insurance Plan stands on its own. If you would actually take time to research and learn something other than scratch and sniff Obama swooning points, you would know that.
That isn’t what you posted about, you posted some crap about Teddy’s health insurance, which you know nothing about.
I do know about Obama and Hillary’s health insurance plan.
If you were remotely reasonable and didn’t try to turn everything that happens in the world into an anti-Obama screed you might seem like less of a republican asshole.
How charming…..
Oh, right? I’m the one who is a dick – go look around here and see how Obama supporters are treated. its like a never ending onslaught of fuck yous. I tried to be nice but its very difficult when you are told to go fuck yourself at every turn.
You need to understand people think you are braindead dude, for supporting Obama and coming here acting all self-righteous. And not everyone is telling you to go fuck yourself. I have not.
Jason, your whining is just like your idol,Obama, who whined in his speeches by flipping Hillary off, & by invoking his gangsta fav rapper.His wife & pastor are known for vile,foul,garbage words, just like yours, Jason. Are you guys imitating your decent Obama??
Just like the crazy guys who burned the American flags at Mission Viejo, which is in the news today.
GOD SAVE AMERICA !!
Watch your mouth.
Uppity,
In Cape Cod, the Kennedy’s are considered a national treasure, so I am sure that money is not even being discussed right now.
What is scary is this statement:
Cape Cod Hospital (CCH) is a little community hospital, less than 3 miles from the entrance to the Kennedy Compound. The call to 911 was at 8:19 a.m. he arrived at CCH at 8:50 a.m. This means the paramedics, and most likely a local physican, could not do anything for him, and immediate arrangements were made to get him to Mass General. CCH has a helipad, but does not have a helicopter. The closest helcopter would have been at the Hyannis airfield, or the Air Force Base at Falmouth.
This does not look good. As angry as I am at Ted and Caroline, the Kennedy’s have been part of my life since I was a child. My father’s “hobby” was politics, and we were a Kennedy Family.
With Ted’s excesses of alcohol and drugs in his life, it is a miracle that he has survived this long. Still there are tears, as I am not feeling there is too much hope right now, and part of my personal life history is passing away.
Uppity,
I have no health insurance. Lost is aout five years ago after I quit work with the attorneys. Since then I’ve been self-employed and cannot afford the premiums any longer. I’ll just have to die I guess. So Ted Kennedy is very fortunate in his life. He was raised in a wealthy, dynastic family.
Ted was a “real” person, complete with his own vices, obviously a true statesman, and equally obviously, a petty politician.
His record will speak for itself. He is an American icon.
As such, he actually represents us all.
I relate to Ted in a real sense. I, too, have vices that have vexed me in life. I, too, have my clearly decided to toss my hat in the ring and not be one who stands on the sidelines and merely takes pictures. I, too, have my own deep petty ego motivations at times. I like to think that awareness helps soften those. But I could be wrong if I had power.
My ridiculous empathic story is so minor. Once, I got a promotion that gave me a secured parking space. Every single day, I pulled in and got an ego boost.
I admit that. I got an ego boost from a stupid piece of concrete in a parking lot.
I have always tried to keep my own ego moment in mind when criticising the political insiders.
I honestly think that they are so surrounded by “parking spaces” and other signals that they are “special” that they lose their way.
I recall my own moment when I realized that I was caught up in the symbols of success. It scared me.
Anyway, Ted’s record will stand proudly in a lot of areas. It will be criticized, especially this last moment….where he tried to mount a coup against his “arch-supporter,” the Clintons.
But he will, obviously, not get his own ego-boost he so strived to attain.
Biill Clinton out-smarted Ted years ago.
It appears that record will stand.
I know that No Child Left Behind will be a huge legacy too.
He has to be a medical marvel. His organs must have been pickled for years now.
Do you remember the SNL skit re: Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill? Teddy, Biden et al were on the Ethics Committee.
What a jerk. Do you think they’ll bury him at sea? There’s a certain bay…
If only the Obama campaign would go down with the ship!
Samantha,
Your comment does not show the kind of character that sets Clintonistas on the net above and beyond the high-schoolish bathroom chatter of too many of the rabid Obamabots.
Teddy has been always been an advocate for working people and is one of the leaders of the Senate, as is Hillary Clinton. I believe that his background was one in which women weren’t perceived as equals. He has been a wonderful father substitute for the children of his slain brothers.
It would have been hard for Teddy to mentor Hillary because she is a woman, but when a middle-aged man on the make by the name of Barack came to the senate as a “rock star” (striking victory due to no opposition), he made a beeline to Kennedy. It made sense to curry the favor of the lion of the Senate. He let Kennedy and Daschle in on his big secret (me in 2008)!
In graduate departments in our universities, it has been hard for women students to receive the mentoring they need from mostly male faculty members. Women are often viewed as sexual objects, or the male doesn’t identify with the woman scholar, and can’t image her taking his place.
This is a lot of what we see in the Hillary disdain. Some men are not advanced enough to look beyond gender. Other countries are much more evolved in this regard.
For some reason, this reminds me of Rabin’s assassination, I guess in that it happened on a Saturday, too, and the news reacted the same.
I’d appreciate it if you didn’t take a “holier-than thou” stance with a fellow Clinton supporter. Make your point, in your own fashion. Leave others to do the same.
Behavior lacking class, IMO.
But, whatever floats their boat.
pc censorship is behavior lacking class as well
You are free to leave.
As far as Samantha’s comments:
At least she is honest about her feelings and hasn’t written her mushy sentiments regarding this man. I applaud her honesty even though it appears cold. She is just truthful.
Kennedy is indeed a testament to what money and access can do for a man who for all intents embalmed himself years ago.
He’d be dead if he had the sort of health most working class Americans have.
Too bad he endorsed a miscreant that wants to gut Social Security and keep the medical system the way it is.
It really says a lot about Kennedy and none of is good. The man reeks of hypocrisy.
Can’t feel sorry for him one bit.
It is wall-to-wall nonstop coverage.
This next item absolutely floored me. In Obama’s statement, he said:
He was one of my favorite people.
This conman is not very deep, nor a good writer. That’s probably why he never wrote anything for the Harvard Review.
Don’t you have enough dirt on Obama that you don’t have to make stuff up? None of the MSM news sites has him saying “was”. Read his entire statement. Hillary needs intelligent informed supporters. Please.
You’re right about the dirt. As I said further on, there’s enough to fill the Grand Canyon. That doesn’t negate this:
This conman is not very deep, nor a good writer. That’s probably why he never wrote anything for the Harvard Review.
I hate that Kennedy is connected to him in any way. I pray for Kennedy and his family, and for our country.
I nearly died at Mass Gen a few years ago from a staph infection I contracted AT the hospital.
I had no insurance at the time. The doctors and everyone else at Mass Gen treated me like SHIT!
I’m sure Sen. Kennedy is getting better treatment. My prayers are with him and his family.
Wow, staph is noooooooo joke.
No wonder Obama could never relate to the people of WV, PA, OH, MI, FL, and other places. It is always about Obama. How Kennedy impacts Obama. How Kennedy was one of Obama’s favorite people. How can Obama relate to anyone if the only thing he sees is himself and how he can use a situation. Does the word opportunist come to mind? Probably Obama is already writing his eulogy…
you aren’t kidding, but most likely Obama is thumbing though a book of collected eulogies, looking for a good one.
lol
barry’s statement He” WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE”. DEFINITELY AN AFFIRMATIVE action student is barry hussein….besides it being a tasteless statement ….it is in the past tense is Teddie dead yet?????….McCain’s quote is much more presidential but I am not suprised.
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Bill Schneider on CNN just reported that things really “took off” for Obama after Kennedy endorsed him. What? Of course if you don’t count MA, TX, PA, OH, IN and WV, you know those unimportant states, things really “took off” for Obama.
Don’t forget California.
Oh Yes, As a Ma resident and Hillary supporter I see God Almighty is teaching Teddie that timeless old lesson.
Make a bad choice and…
WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND SAYETH THE LORD
Obama will try to exploit this for political gain. I doubt Michelle will even mention it.
I am so sorry to hear about Senator Kennedy’s health.
My best wishes and prayers are with his loved ones.
Fox says the family is in a state of “guarded optimism” so hopefully it’s not the worst.
I felt his recent outburst about Clinton not being a vp was a sign of health deterioration.
I don’t think a younger Ted would have even made an endorsement.
CNN is milking his Obama support. All the videos show him speaking with of “Change” signs behind him.
I hope you’re right, I hope he survives, and recovers.
In a world of monsters, Kennedy is the least of threats.
Yeah, I really don’t know how I feel about Teddy Kennedy anymore. He truly had no problem with insulting 50% of primary voters just for the fun of trashing my political candidate. I wish him well, but he’s not exactly a friend of my interests.
Same here, A. Ted Kennedy & the rest of Hillary back stabbers are not interested for the future of the country.They do not have the qualities of a true friend.
As a good Christian, I wish him well.
Faux scrolling headlines showing Chappaquidick…
SusanUnpc
how spot on again! Hillary cancelled her rally to honor the fallen police officer for obvious reasons and it doesnt sound like Obama plans to postpone any speaking engagements …
I thought about that officer today, when I was reading all of this. I hope his family is doing well. I’m sure that Hillary is staying in touch with them. That was one of the most heartbreaking stories…
BO is coming to lay his healing hands. Heal! Heal! Heal!
You just gave Axelrod an idea, oh god, help us…
LOL…
They are saying it was some type of seizure. Isn’t that a risk in the weeks and months after having a huge stroke?
Here is some info on seizures after a stroke.
Sorry for the OT, but this seems important.
U.N. racism investigator to visit U.S. from Monday
Fri May 16, 2008 10:52am EDT
GENEVA, May 16 (Reuters) – A special U.N. human rights investigator will visit the United States this month to probe racism, an issue that has forced its way into the race to secure the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination.
The United Nations said Doudou Diene would meet federal and local officials, as well as lawmakers and judicial authorities during the May 19-June 6 visit.
“The special rapporteur will…gather first-hand information on issues related to racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance,” a U.N. statement said on Friday.
His three-week visit, at U.S. government invitation, will cover eight cities — Washington D.C., New York, Chicago, Omaha, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Miami and San Juan, Puerto Rico.
Race has become a central issue in the U.S. election cycle because Sen. Barack Obama, the frontrunner in the battle for the Democratic nomination battle, stands to become the country’s first African American president.
His campaign has increased turnout among black voters but has also turned off some white voters in a country with a history of slavery and racial segregation.
Diene, a Senegalese lawyer who has served in the independent post since 2002, will report his findings to the U.N. Human Rights Council next year.
http://tinyurl.com/6h6lsq
As someone said, is she going to look into sexism, too?
And the UN is just as corrupt as everything else, hey, has Auchi made contributions, there too?
Big deal, the UN needs to be cleaned, too, no more credibility, corruption will do that…
Oil for food, Saddam, Auchi, Obama, Kofi Annan…
DOH!
Uh… There’s also a special rapporteur for violence against women. uh…
By the way, although I studied with Radhika Coomeraswamee, a former U.N Special Rapporteur on Violence Against Women, and think she is one of the most brilliant and beautiful people I have ever met, America tends to not give a whistle about anything the U.N has to say.
For instance, a couple of prisons right here in America would not allow her to visit–although her visits were scheduled and approved by the states involved. Was there fall-out for this rebutal of a UN investigator? I don’t know– you hear of any?
Someone probably called in a marker to get this “investigation.” The announcement of it implies their is racism against blacks which Obama cries every time he is about to get reamed. Cry wolf. And Obama will still lose, not because he is black but because he is not qualified to be president. Stuff that in your UN report. The conservatives are going to scream bloody murder at the UN sticking its nose in our election. And if the UN investigates honestly, they will find out where the real racism has been coming from. We should tell the UN to investigate the sexism while they are at it. And tell the UN to investigate MSNBC.
Oh Good. Piss off more voters who haven’t done anything but prefer the other candidate. This is bullshit. What are they going to do next, round up all the Hillary Clinton supporters and send them to Camp X-Ray?
Next thing you know, they will fine us all and tell us we have to just GIVE the presidency to Barack Obama.
Or do like Coward Dean did (didn’t you come up with that moniker :-J?) and just tell us to STFU!
I think the U.N. should investigate SOB and his backers. There is enough dirt there to fill the Grand Canyon!!
Crying wolf only widens the margin for Hillary in KY. Obama has managed to scare the living crap out of most Americans. The UN can stuff that in their report.
Really? You may want to see who more Americans are scared of:
Obama favorable rating, RCP average = 51.5%; unfavorable rating = 38.5%
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/obama_favorableunfavorable-643.html
Clinton favorable rating, RCP average = 46.8%; unfavorable rating = 46%
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/clinton_favorableunfavorable-644.html
Jason:
Thank you for the RCP favorability rating. As someone who in a prior life was the field manager of a survey research center, I would not line a birdcage with the date that RCP generates!
Thanks, you back up what I said.
They don’t poll on “scare the living crap” but should. And we don’t know how those “favorable ratings” are measured. Who asks, how is the questing asked, etc. I stand by what I said. Obama has scared the living crap out of most Americans. Watch him fall.
She better look into the sexism! Since when does the f***ing UN investigate OUR elections??? Obama suffers a stunning defeat in WV and now people are screaming racism? This man has almost every MSM as his personal propaganda machine. That’s what needs to be investigated!
Who called him in? Axelrod.
Absolutely ridiculous. Thank you U.N. Useless! And how are you going to reinforce your findings?
Man I hate to hear this reguardless.What he did to Hillary I thought was wrong.But I feel for his hfamily.let’s hope and pray that Teeddy will be getting better.
I think we shoud email the family give them our prays and thoughts.
god bless
Don’t worry BO is on his way to Heal! Heal! Heal!!!
I hope all is well with Kennedy even though I have held my nose for too many years pulling the lever for him.. he is good on policy. I support Hillary and was really upset that he didn’t stay neutral.. a younger teddy would have.
RUMOR from a good source .. he’s been looking to get out and Deval Patrick approached with a deal.. get out in front and endorse Obama and I will appoint anyone of your choice.
Kennedy was stilled tacked off about Welfare Reform and this sweetened the pot
meant to finish the last post.. Vicki Reggie is Kennedy’s choice to fill his seat!!!
Who is Vicki Reggie?
Kennedy’s wife
I first thought about a post-stroke seizure, but you can also get seizures when you go too long without a drink, if you are a heavy drinker. So his seizure may or may not be related to a stroke. We will have to see what the docs say.
If Obama used this for a rally around Obama effect, that truly would be cynical and nasty.
Hope he doesn’t do it.
For God’s sakes, FOX has been Talking Teddy nonstop for two hours. They are acting like he is dead.
And CNN has behaved as if Ted Kennedy’s only achievement was his endorsement of Obama.
These creeps have turned this into some celebration of Obama.
Excuse me while I go throw up.
Pass the puke bucket around please.
The celebration only widens the margin in KY. I don’t think Kennedy is that popular there. So BNN and MSNBO can celebrate all they want. The people will express their views on Tuesday.
I watched CNN and they had pictures of Obama and talked about Teddy’s endorsement. Then a reporter called in and pointed out that despite Teddy’s endorsement Hillary won Mass. Now they seem to be focusing on Teddy and his health. Good. It should be about him. Hang in there Teddy Bear.
My prayers goes out to Senator Kennedy and his family.
Mine too.
It’s not too hard to guess, being we’ve seen Hillary do this numerous times already, even not going on stage to speak at the TBA Conference when a mental patient seized a New Hampshire office.
In times of crisis, you know what a person is made of. Go to the source of the problem, ……..go golfing, or continue to campaign. Obama couldn’t even make time out for the Black Family ReUnion in Nola, sighting his need to spend every moment campaigning in TX and Ohio. Again, Hillary did.
B O stinks. (just in case you need a reminder)
Wait, it wasn’t the TBA conference, it was the DNC Fall meeting in November.
I suspect he will be fine. He had a seizure. It could be a one time thing or maybe it’s elderly epilepsy, which is rare but does happen.
The good news is that it is apparently unrelated to that artery blockage he had awhile back.
Everyone can “stand down” over this. He’ll be in the hospital for tests for the next two days.
When is Hillary Clinton going to be somehow blamed for this?
I’m curious.
She’s not. You’re dealing with Democrats here, not Rove Republicans…
I wish some of you would remember that many Obama supporters actually LIKE Hillary Clinton as well. If she’s the nominee I’ll be voting for her with no reservations.
I second that. She’s better than McOldMan. Her vote on Iraq precluded my support at the outset.
Give it a week. The Obamaforces will have their paid web poosters saying that Kennedy’s siezure was the result of frustration with clinton trying to tear the party down. Or that Hillary ordered a hit job on him.
Just wait and see.
See the only people stooping to this level are you.
Nice strawman.
oh right.
Obama’s campaign lackeys would never STOOP to such a level and do anything like that…
Wait didnt they say that Clinton put out a picture and darkened his skin in it to make him more ethnic looking or something? Example 236 of thousands.
whats next?
you going to label me and people like me a racist for assuming that their reprehensible history of race baiting and trash talking from the back of the Hope&Change-Modile is indicitive of what to expect from them?
Bill,
I think your on to something.
You’re a sick man. Really sick.
It’s in queue. Next week they are going to blame her for cavities and world hunger.
LOL.
That’s a good one Uppity.
I was thinking Hillary should go visit Ted in the hospital. That seems to be about the only way she can get some CNN and MSNBC coverage.
I figured Fox would start turning on us at some point, and it looks like that point is now.
If Clinton doesn’t win this primary, cable news and I part for good.
Well it is news. Besides, it keeps them busy.
Joseph Kennedy died a broken man.
Having lost two presidential sons and the third to scandal and disgrace I wonder if the same fate awaits Ted?
By backing Obama and passing the Faux mantel of Camelot to him,alienating for ever the FDR wing of the party represented by the Clinton’s. His further sexist remarks about the VP slot sealed his disgrace within in the democrat party.
I think perhaps he was having second thoughts about his huge mistake.
It’s the Democratic Party. Get it right Republican Concern Troll.
With the Oblamers it’s the Nation of Islam, Black Panthers, Weather Underground – basically Terrorists, Inc.
Merely calling themselves Democrats does not actually mean the Oblamers are Democratic.
maybe it started sinking in when Reverend Wright was making fun of John F. Kennedy.
Or maybe after Obama lost Mass.
I wish Senator Kennedy a full recovery, and send my healing thoughts to his friends and family. Senator has, and will continue, to do many good things for his Country.
Shame on anyone, whether it’s a media outlet or not, turning this into something political. The Kennedy family has seen their share of extraordinary tragedy. I wish them well, as always.
Catriley-
How true. The Kennedys have never been politically inclined.
They would never use the media for political purposes.
When BO was told the news, he undoubtedly asked, “Ted who?”, fearing to say anything until he was told Ted is not another blast from his past.
My sincerest thoughts and prayers for Ted Kennedy and his family.
Fly
Come on Larry. I think you are jumping to conclusions about Ted Kennedy’s Health. And you assume that Hillary will travel to be with the Kennedys. That’s bull, as they say in Texas. The families do not really get on and if Hillary turned up at my bedside I would think I’d already arrived in hell! There is genuine friendship between the Kennedys and Obama which is probably part of the reason why Obama was endorsed by Ted. Not to mention the risk he ran of incurring the Clintons’ wrath. Indeed, it was their blatant and shameless racial agitating which precipitated the endorsement – he would have kept it to himself otherwise. Still – pluck facts from fantasyland by all means if it helps your yarns.
Facts: Kennedy never forgave Bill for signing the Welfare Reform Act in 1996 and the loss of Congress in 1994 was blamed on Bill eeven though Kennedy was advising on the congressional agenda during Clinton first two years in office.
The LBJ comment caused Kennedy’s tantrum in Feb. and he was getting worried that HRC would do well super tuesday. This election is about ego, power and revenge. I could line up all the players and tell you what ax they have to grind with Clintons. Like Kerry, Daschle, Richardson ad nauseum
Martin,
Where exactly do you get your facts about a close “friendship” with Obama nad his hummmclassy wife?
I made no mention of his wife. Why you brought her up I have no idea. The friendship is from Obama’s books. I suggest you read ‘em: get to learn something about our future President.
Obama won’t have to go to Portland.
The media is pumping out the national coverage of his comments
and Kennedy’s endorsement.
Without a doubt they’ll be looping a history of the Kennedys with all the emotional trimmings, culminating in old Ted’s great wish to complete the Kennedy legacy.
All three of the cable news stations are probably busy little bees on it
right now.
None of this makes Obama any more electable in November. That is still Hillary’s best argument and it is a powerful one. Hillary is not expected to win in Oregon and has factored this into her plans. All is well. Obama still can’t by party rules declare victory Tuesday with a win in OR. 2209 is the only number that counts. I’m not concerned at all and what you say only further shows how far the MSM is up his colon.
It’s a very big long shot.. but Obama may lose MA in the Nov. election. I will write -in Hillary
The Gov, Deval Patrick, is AA, a big BO supporter, and is a colossal disaster with approval ratings in Bushland 28-30%. People are furious. There are lots of Catholics, low minoirty, and 89% white working class. (these are just facts.. I’m not racist)
McCain was polling ahead of BO in March 47-44% while Hillary was polling 57-41%. We’ll see after the repubs start running ads against BO.
Really. If that’s the case, Idaho may send an entirely democrat slate to Congress and send its 4 EVs to Obama. Your suggestion is that rediculous. I’ve lived in MA. Yes – Deval is not the flavor of the month but McCain has a snowball’s chance there. Which is part of the reason why it’s such a wonderful state.
I just don’t see him with the nomination, yet.
Funny, that?
I mean, the poor thing is hanging by a wire, day to day, must be feeling desperate.
And the same tags, over and over, nothing new at all, not even capable of understanding HOW he should respond to the Senators ill health…
Perhaps he should go to the library, I’ sure he can find a book on etiquette for wannabes, its important.
The gangsta finger just wont cut it, even big energy knows that…
http://www.ytedk.com/index.htm
I remember watching Kennedy on TV in 1969 as he tried to explain his involvment with the death of Mary Jo Kopechne. He was a coward then and he still is a coward. This is why he NEVER could run for president. All current coverage of him seems to have forgotten his past.
If he endorsed Clinton it would have been dwelled on quite extensively…that and his miserable failed bid and subsequent ridiculous and disrespectful behavion at the Dem convention.
IF YOU WRITE IN HILLARY
IF YOU WRITE IN HILLARY
IF YOU WRITE IN HILLARY
in the November Election you are costing Obama only 1 vote.
If you vote McCain you are costing Barry 1 vote and netting McCain 1 vote.
If your intention is to prevent Obama from being elected, your vote has more reletive weight as a vote for McCain than a protest vote in the name of Hillary.
Hillary will have to say bring the party together. She has to do that as a Leader of the Democratic party even though they treated her like crap and rode her dirty. She has no other political choice.
But You do.
If you oppose the idea of Barry NO NO NO-Bama the Constantly Changing Speechmelian and politically expediant flip flopper becoming the next President of the United states of KKK-America as his loving and misunderstood pastor refers to us as, then make your vote count.
Don’t just protest vote, Vote against him.
Bill,
Speechmelian is perfect! I usually say Speech Monkey (AxelRove’s wind-up toy), but Speechmelian is better.
The only violence Oblamer is for is against the U.S. Big surprise he didn’t want a war with the U.S. fighting terrorists.
They’re funding his campaign.
I agree with Bill. If we want to protect our country we need to vote for the other candidate who can best beat Obama (if Obama turns out to be the nominee). Right now that happens to be John McCain. Who knows with this crazy election year maybe an Independent will enter the campaign or pick up strength in the Fall.
The only viable independant candidate is Hillary Clinton at this point.
But she wont leave the party over this….sadley.
I am not normally a praying person and I am praying my heart out for Ted Kennedy.
Obama is just so……Bush with a tan. Good golly, he’s got such poor skills on his feet.
Well, I actually have come to enjoy Bushisms. He cracks me up.
Hate his policies, but I sort of like the guy.
Letterman will have a field day with Obama.
Glad to hear Sen.Kennedy fairs well this evening.
Regardless of political differences in our candidate choice, he and his family have made enduring contributions and paid high prices both in service and in office.
yes they have MrMurder..yes they have..
snd i am glad to hear he is fairing well tonight ..
no faimly in modern day history has sacrificed as much as the Kennedy’s for this nation.
My kindest regards for Ted.
fly
Did you all see!!! Obama gained a delegate and Clinton lost a delegate in the Nevada statewide convention. So he now won Nevada with 14 delegates to 11 for HRC instead of 13-11. Word from Nevada is that some of the Clinton county level delegates decided the game was up and “couldn’t be bothered” to attend.
Seizure? The only way this guy had a seizure was from alcohol withdrawal. I saw that one news outlet likened what happened to Ted to a TIA (Transient Ischemic Attack)but TIA’s do not look like seizures, people. Ted has an alcohol dependence problem, people. Not dying…just give the guy a scotch and he’ll be fine.
Ted Kennedy is fat.