Who Wants to Be the Next Millionaire? [Updated] – Thread #2
By SusanUnPC on May 17, 2008 at 11:26 PM in Current Affairs
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This is perhaps the most interesting time of my adult life.
Watching it all unfold. Front row seats. It’s a real heart pounder!
Dawnelle — for me its very sad. If ever we needed the best person to be President its now. Plus I see what the phonies in the DNC really think about women– The Dems have lost their credibility and its always sad when you lose your idols.
I, for one, am about to start clinging to my guns & bible… okay, maybe not, but i AM clinging to my Hillary buttons and turning to her site to donate.
The more the MSM mock and laugh and put her down, the more I give to HRC.
It’s a gift that keeps on giving.
This doesn’t make sense because if it is a “conservative” billionaire that is looking to buy the tape to bring out now then he is looking to knock Obama out of the race. For what? So the stronger candidate Hillary, who is also liberal, would be the nominee??? That’s the part that doesn’t make sense. Why would a conservative want Hillary to have the nomination, just because he doesn’t like John McCain? Even though Hill is a more valid centrist than Snobama she is still a liberal which is the opposite of what a true conservative would want as a President. Bringing the tape out now wouldn’t do anything to McCain, just Obama and the Democrats. Does he want to create a total and final schism within the Democratic umbrella because even though the DNC hasn’t recognized it, its already happened. Is the motive because Obama is way too far left and they’d really like to crush him now so they can essentially let Obamites vent on Hillary’s continued presense which would keep them off McCain? Food for thought or barking up the wrong tree.
Here is a link to some of the rich people that have donated to Hillary.
Pick one. There are a few billionaires listed.
yheitman — it makes sense when you look at what the Democrats have done to one of their candidates. To alot of Republicans McCain is not a true conservative so they would rather he go down to Hillary than be the lesser of two evils. The problem with the two political parties are their wings.
One million is too little if this guy is at all serious. And the timing is way off.
then again, if there’s some member of congregation of the TUCC on the southside of Chi-town, a million bucks doesn’t sound half bad for that dusty old tape in that box in the closet. Does it?
McCain is despised by a large section of the GOP and some of them openly want Hillary to defeat him.
The video would derail the Obama nomination and put Hillary at the forefront. Or so goes the thinking.
Whether the DNC and SD’s panics and dumps Barky as a result is anybody’s guess. They may hate Hillary so much they don’t care if Barky takes down the DP if he stays on the ticket.
Because one thing I’ve noticed that Hillary has very little support from the Democratic establishment.
They don’t like her.
Voters do, but is it enough to sway the kool-aid drinkers in the DNC and SD’s.
many of them were hillary backers who turned to obama after he persuaded them with his database.
many of them are not anti-hillary at all, they admire hillary but are going with the party unity early idea and are backing him due to pressure.
some of them are idiots who drank kool aid and are posting to the orange satan.
some of them are voting along race lines even though they have long been hill supporters in the past.
some are from illinois or other locations he won and are voting for that reason alone – political and constituent pressue.
some are voting against their own judgment because their state chairman is in the tank for ob
lots of reasons.
she was up over 130 delegates at one point. one big freakin story and his house of cards collapses… and they mutiny back to her.
his hope fund bought some of them, but for how long will they be loyal to him and what is the deal they cut with him.
his association with some of them can clearly hurt them when they are up for reelection…
they are just looking for a reason to bail.
none of the delegates are pledged and all the media against her will not change them if they want to swing her way in the end.
the lady in the pantsuit is still relevant and in play and it ain’t over till the confetti drops.
Some people act out of spite. Results be damned
“Why would a conservative want Hillary to have the nomination, just because he doesn’t like John McCain?”
Perhaps because, to paraphrase Michael Corleone in Godfather I, “It isn’t politics, Sonny, it’s personal.”
Many conservatives dislike McStain for many reasons, not the least of which is his alleged behavior while a prisoner of the North Vietnamese.
Never underestimate the power of hatred.
The problem is believing the motive. The motive is irrelevant because we will not know the motive until or if the person gets the video. The person can claim any motive prior to getting the video and then use it a different way.
My guess is that if there is a damaging video it will be used by Repubs in the Fall campaign to secure a Repub win.
Well, if he hates McCain that much, maybe it is due to pure hatred and revenge.
> Why would a conservative want
> Hillary to have the nomination (?)
A.) she is less dangerous than BO
B.) she is closer to the center than BO
Many Rs crossed-over in primaries, not because of operation “chaos” – but for love of country.
True conservatives would rather see McCain lose to HRC than to BO.
If people really understood how dangerous the world is, they’d elect Clinton hands down.
As it is, they’ve turned it into a contest for prom queen, with all the attendant consequence.
It is a contest for a prom queen.
He postures, poses, muses all quite scripted and practiced. And the followers lap up what they want to hear. to bad the music will stop in November.
Oh, and don’t dare say he doesn’t interest you or the race becomes racial.
What a mess.
As the old saying goes, “Politics makes strange bed fellows.” Those on the right wing who dislike McCain want to scuttle the Republican ship this year. It is not that they believe Hilary would do a better job than McCain. Rather they believe that it would be better for the Republican partry to lose and then come back strong with a more conservative candidate, than to allow McCain to take over the party. Although, if you ask me, giving Hilary the presidency for 4 years would be far worse than having McCain fighting tax increases and cutting spending. Let us not forget about the Supreme Court people!
Nonsense. I’m not going to be held hostage by the court appointment issue.
Far bigger fish to fry…….
i wanted to post this to teak wood on last thread ..so i will put it here:
ohhh Teakwood ..you have me rolling on the floor with laughter!
but the “Troll luminol” was the icing on the cake!!
thank you for the entertainment !!
fly
What’s a kite to do?
This tape deal is like BO’s outstanding ability to “community orginize” all those poor freezing people in the 313. Either way you play it, it’s not good.
Obama trolls are not good at picking up after them selves or good at paper work. They learn well!
The Obama campaign knows exactly which tapes Mr Johnson is talking about. Michelle knows;I bet 1000 feet of my best 20 lb test kite string on it.
The second one requires some remote viewing and will take a bit to sort through.
Sheldon Adelson, aka, “Gondoliero Numero Uno,” already has his hand up Nevada Governor Jim “Empty Flight Suit” Gibbons’ ass because he owns him, Fee Simple.
It may be that Sheldon thinks that HRC is, “Someone I can do Business with.”
Anyone have a guess as to who the billionaire is. I think it might be Richard Mellon Scaife, who funded the Right Wing conspiracy against Hillary. After meeting her he was enchanted and his newspaper endorsed her for President.
ohhhh interesting……
Yep. The Tribune-Review endorsed Hillary. Meanwhile, Pittsburgh’s main paper, the Post-Gazette endorsed Obama. It was the oddest endorsement I’d ever read, namely because it went on for several paragraphs about how wonderful Hillary is, citing her strengths and positive record, then in the final paragraph it basically said, “but we’re endorsing Obama anyway because our chief editors drank the Kool-Aide.”
yesssssssssss veryyyyyy!
he’s a billionaire? jez they’re like a dime a dozen huh?
I’d be set for life if I just had the money they paid in taxes!! (under Hillary)
I like the RSM theory. It suggests there is a certain cosmic balance that even Dean, Brazile and MSM can’t fuck up. That the power of Hillary’s convictions can have a transforming epiphanic effect on someone like Mellon. Good one S. Hall. I’ll sleep better now with that thought in my head–my own little sugar plum if you will. I guess I’m more of a foolish idealist than I thought,
Hillary can appeal to a large swath of voters. If you value the bottomline, like many GOPers do, you can’t discount Hillary wholesale.
The GOP knew that Hillary would be a challenge, they just never knew she’d appeal to their own base of voters.
Remember reading years ago that when the Clintons were first in office, Jackie came over to address the issue of children in the White House (probably another reason Chelsea grew up fine). Maybe Jackie gave Hillary some other tips, as well…just wished she would have a fashion designer to help her, at least dress up her pantsuits (they can be made more stylish, and even create a fashion in itself). Even Ms. Coal Miner likes to dress up when going out.
or ruppert murdoch…………
fly
I was thinking of Scaife. Now there would be some karmic justice lol
See I could see someone like Scaife doing this. He is a conservative who couldn’t stand Hillary until he met her and did a 180 because he found that she is a woman of substance. He ended up endorsing her and he may well be behind this.
You’d think Billionaire would pay a little more than a million for this tape wouldn’t he? If I had it, he’d have to quit the cheapskate routine. I’m assuming he supposes that the person who is holding the tape is a poor bastard?
Feelers, to judge if there’s any bites.
It’s certainly more than “National Enquirer” or Murdoch’s “Globe” would pay, too. The networks are cheapskates, and most refuse paying for material (despite they make a profit for airing it — why I’m not interested in the I-Report stuff, where folks would even lose creative rights).
You’d have to be pretty craven to accept the million dollars to sell out your candidate. I was starting to type that I’d do it for a million dollars and I stopped myself and had to ask myself “would you really sell out Hillary and your country for a million bucks?” I don’t think I could do it.
Yheitman
A million bucks is too small an amount. Only a fool bids high first. Everyone has a price. Just watch people in every day life. I’ve seen people who claimed to be moral, upstanding family people sell their children out for much less. If people will sell out their blood, they will certainly sell out a nation or political operatives with whom they have no real relations.
The ultra-wealthy have no allegiances because they don’t have to keep them for survival like the rest of us.
Family would turn family in for an award. A candidate? No problem.
There’s little loyalty in politics.
it’s more than that. if hillary was as horrible as obama has been all along i would gladly sell her out. if anybody deserves it, it is him.
if there was a high percentage of positives for her and i had one tiny bit of negative to throw possible fuel on the fire then no, not for a million. if there was a high percentage of negatives already and this would just be another drop in the bucket then absolutely i would.
for obama it isn’t swiftboating it is telling it like it is and a service to the country to out him… i’d do it for FREE if i had it.
Just have to find someone in his church with a conscience, and sees the larger picture.
Sometimes it IS more than race.
Imagine the fallout of him being elected and someone purposely hid the goods. The damage would be worse than a nightmare, especially if known s/he did it based on race.
you act like this is a “transaction” that is going to be reported to the freaking IRS! There isn’t going to be a receipt, man. This is a tax free, money in your lap for no work million bucks.
BO and MO know that it exists. So does Reverend Wright. This “offer” gives the story bigger and longer legs. Maybe long enough for someone in the church with more loyalty to Uncle Jer than to former member Obama to get their hands on it. A million dollar donation back to the “building fund?” What do they say? “Praise Jesus.”
Someone in thread one pointed out how Bill Clinton could not possibly be racist… Yet his answer to metropolitan crime was, (ahem) MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL!!?? No racist stereotypes there; right? Only thing missing was the fried chicken/watermelon stand. Sheesh!
As for HRC, she is a strident harpie at best,in reality, she is a fascist socialist and has stated as much herself when threatening to “take those profits from “big oil,”etc.
BO is a good bit to the left of her politics, and as such should never have been considered a viable candidate in the US, which, in case everyone but me has forgotten, was formed as a representative republic.I already recognize that his wife is a “chip on shoulder” racist. Don’t need the tape, thanks anyway. As for McCain, he seems to be just a garden variety socialist with little understanding/regard for the constitution. Remember McCain Fiengold/first amendment? Some “choice.” At this point, I’m ashamed of both major parties. The Dems can’t even run a primary without serious screw ups (Florida/Michigan); and they have the audacity to ask us to select them to run the country? Get real.
I’d slap myself around every single day but I feel that strongly about Hillary being the best thing that could happen to this country.
Good strategy. Once it is known that someone is willing to pay for this tape, it will flush out EVERYTHING. It will be like, “Okay, I may not have the “whitey” tape, but how much will you pay me for THIS?”
At this point, I have no idea if any of this is real, but whatever is out there, it will probably come out soon. Face it, people would sell out their own family members for less than a million. Of course they will sell out a politician, especially one that has thrown Wright under the bus.
Brilliant.
Interesting thought. I’ve heard that a lot of the people at O’s church are really pissed at him for dissing Rev. Wrong. This billionaire should be passing his offer around to the people at the church. I would bet one of them have the tape, since they seem to sell a tape of every church service. You know someone there has it.
the GOP has a 1000 page dossier from the good folks of Chicago who aren’t loyal to anybody but green. they’re going to s*hit storm him with opposing news that we haven’t even uncovered.
yet, nothing at this point will surprise us or the media who know but dont’ report the truth.
it all comes out in the wash, and his sins will never come clean.
Precisely.
Dangle money, and it’s the fastest way to haul in more of a catch.
Do folks think that Joe Schmoo would just give it away, knowing it’s worth more than baseball cards? He wouldn’t sell it on eBay, because thugs are thugs, and it’s worth more than 50k, anyway.
Hope Joe will dig in his closet and basement for oldies. Something is somewhere that’s dynamite in the right hands.
The DNC .media and Obama have treated Hillary Clinton with amazing disrespect.
Women have had it.
And, their fathers, husbands, and sons agree.
Let us stand up, speak up for Hillary and all of us!!!
I did it today. I had it up to here with the DNC and Howard Stupid Dean so i called them up today and i cancel my membership and i asked for my $1000 annual contribution back.
I was on the phone with them for about 45 minutes and they passed me from one guy to another. They were totally shocked that i asked them to refund my contribution. I talked to the senior deputy to the finance chairman of the DNC. He tried to tell me that RNC has been out-raising the DNC 2-1 and that we need all good democrats to participate and donate and i told him, “I am willing to write another $1000 check right now if you guarantee me that you would respect the will and the votes of the Floridians and respect the result of the Florida primary held Jan 29?” And he said, well there is a meeting on the 31st of May and i can assure that the DNC will find a fair solution to Florida and Michigan and that they will seated blablablab. And i told him that Senator Clinton is going to get shafted in that meeting and i know it and you know it, but she will accept the verdict because she is a good team player. However, i don’t have to accept that and i am leaving the party and i need my money please.
Correction: i called them yesterday (Friday).
It would seem that you need to hit them upside the head to get their attention. Maybe the democratic party symbol is not a donkey but rather a jacka$$?
Remember the good-old-days when the politicians and political parties represented their constituents’ wishes?
CHRIS – Good for you! What was the final result?
I got my money back. They are calling me Monday and confirm that.
Rock On!
You should post a diary and if enough people put up a stink and are with drawing their funds, it will wake them up!
Good for you, Chris!
Chris,
I laughed so hard when I read that: Howard Stupid Dean.
I am so angry that:
How could he deny the will of voter?
How could he thinks he has right to control us?
How could he agest Hillary from very begenning?
I do not understand who give him the power?
Whole issue seems, at best, distraction and a waste of time and human resources to me. However one may define one’s mission, how does applying oneself to this story contribute to that mission?
A hall of mirrors and imagination run wild. A “sensitivity” marathon on drugs. Interesting novel, screen play, board game or exercise perhaps.
I’d rather spend my time reading a good manual on counterintelligence like James Fenimore Cooper’s The Heidenmauer. Were anyone interested in such pursuits, I’d suggest they start here:
http://www.larouchepac.com/packages/2007/10/18/
image-american-patriot.html
But that’s just me.
Gary,
Oh dear, I can see you through your smoke and mirrors, counter-intelligence curtain of high-minded condescension and general stoner, video-game stupor.
Cut the crap Larouche.
Take it or leave it, “Hope.”
You missed me by a mile.
Ah, links automatically enliven themselves. Sorry.
http://www.larouchepac.com/packages/2007/10/18/image-american-patriot.html
And by the way, has anyone commented on what was perhaps the weirdest sight of the night, or maybe of any other night: former ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, the former CIA employee Valerie Plame Wilson, chatting with Lyndon LaRouche? It happened at the receptions prior to the dinner and left more than one onlooker shaking his head at the strangeness of it all.
No, I don’t believe anyone has commented on that since Spring of 2006, at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner where Stephen Colbert thrashed and confused the resident of the white house on national TV. Why?
She will win Oregon by 2%.
Any takers on this?
If the reports are that Hillary won the townhall meeting even in Portland. Anything is up for grabs.
Obama works the best in cities, and if he starts losing there, there’s no return for him. He’ll even have lost the urban group.
America likes it’s “American Idol”, and they just may vote to keep the show going all the way to the very end.
Can you imagine the fallback of an “American Idol” contestant that said, weeks before the final round, “I’m the winner!”? The arrogance would cost him his chances. This maybe what Obama is facing now — never say it’s over until it’s over, as even Yogi said it!
ARG had her within 5 points. Real Clear Politics isn’t even listing that poll, however, on their site.
I know they were off by 6 in Indiana, but they were very close in WVA.
So RCP average is 12 points right now, I think, for Obama in Oregon.
He’s reportedly not even going to show up there. He’s going back to Iowa to announce he’s won the nomination.
This story is a little of a stretch. i know rove is helping out mccain but mccain doesn’t want anything to do with 527 groups. if you this is supposed to be a secret why is this story being leaked? this will destroy mccain if they find he’s behind this
The Republican offering the money, doesn’t care about McInsane, like maybe 1/3 of Republicans to begin with.
Knock two birds down with one stone — bye-bye Obama and McInsane.
Excellent!
You people are grabbing at straws, nothing but rumors. The tape is a myth, if it was out there it would have already been released……….
The correct term is “grasping” at straws, which better describes the Obamatots insistence that he’s the inevitable nominee and President. You’re clearly too naive to understand how the GOP operates.
Did you know Obama was Arab-American. Read this article:
http://www.icallbs.net/blog/index.php/2008/02/17/obama-an-arab-american-liar/
Isn’t it something that the chickenshit in chief wannabee hasn’t got the BALLS to appear in an unscripted, no holds barred question and answer with the…OH MA GAWD…VOTERS!!! And then the golden child didn’t even have the nuts to appear by HIMSELF before the…OH MA GAWD…voters and answer their questions. How does this pussy look himself in the eye in the mirror in the morning without pissing himself? And what kinda fucked up, twisted beat me daddy I DESERVE only SHIT mentality supports this pussy for PRESIDENT! I gotts say this campaign has certainly been an eye opening, life outlook changing event. Any illusions I had about the Democratic Party being ANY differant then the Repugnantklan have sure gone by the by. There are JUST as many racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic scum bags, hell they’re WORSE cause they’ve been screaming about how DIFFERANT they were! Time for an truely independent party!
They saw it work for Bush — closed rallys in 04 — and thought that DEMOCRATS might buy the same shit … well, obviously kids do but not adults who can think for themselves and want a country that works for all Americans.
I like the cut of your jib. Agree completely.
Vince Foster…not only are you dead, but yer NUTS as well! MAYBE obamalamadingdong squeeks by in Oregon, MAYBE!
Have ya’ll seen the new Flineo video? I found it over at Liberal Rapture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HX6vbhAYaU
Never been there before. You’ll want to check out at least the first article, and the poll on who you’ll vote for, if the anti-Christ is the Democratic nominee.
OMG that video is powerful!
By this time next year — if we’re not careful of America — it could be illegal to produce … just something to think about, no?
Wild video!
That was a fine political satire….The best ones have real bite !
BRAVO FLINEO !…..THANKS FOR THE LINK….KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
User 312 over at HillaryClintonForum.net is starting a new “I won’t vote for BO” group at the DNC website. I just joined and hope you will too.
Here’s his entry at HCFN:
DIRVAO United founded today because the DNC, pundits, and MSM don’t believe that many Hillary supporters will not vote for Obama in the General Election.
DIRVAO United is new group formed on the DNC website, yep I’m gonna work right under their noses, to make it as clear as possible that we are serious. I don’t know if, or for how long, they will allow it but we will see.
The main purpose is to build a large membership in the group. Hopefully large enough to draw their attention. I’ll blog and post things to the group, etc.
This is not meant to detract from the forum here. This is, and should remain the primary forum for us.
I basically just need those of you who are not going to vote for Obama if he’s the nominee to join this group (for the numbers). And if not many join, I’ll just shut it down.
You can check it out here: http://www.democrats.org/page/group/DIRVAOUnited
BTW, DIRVAO = Democrats Independents Republicans Voting Against Obama
I just love the idea of a covert op right under their noses
Joined for the kicks.
Not voting for Obama, that’s for sure!
Joined! It is sort of funny.
I’ve heard that trolls get paid by the reply.
I have decided not to talk to them here — except for Fosbach who didn’t get the irony of “Dewey beats Truman” and then tried to tell us he was THERE …. he just needs to be whacked repeatedly.
If they get paid, it just proves the level to which Barry is willing to stoop to steal an election from a qualified candidate. He makes American look like the third world. No wonder he wants to meet with them. He wants to see if he’s missing techniques.
Fosbach is not very bright. The rest of the trolls are not very bright. I will not talk to any of them and keep helping Hillary.
Education only goes to 8th grade at the madrassahs in GAZA….that’s why the OBAMATROLLS are not very talented…I’m just sayin’
Obama outsourced his troll army….he should have chosen better….
Let us turn our anger to action to bring more vote for Hillary here and right now!
One moment a time! one vote a time!
Please let us give hands to Hillary!!! Our Candidate!!!
Go to http://www.hillaryclinton.com/
Call! Call! Call!
Bill Clinton tells crowd to ignore media about his wife’s chances
And ignore the trolls as well.
HOW ABOUT a Mike Gravel protest vote as the alternative to Obama if he end up being the nominee?
he’s a progressive, and he’s running as an independent
http://www.gravel2008.us/
My focus right now is to get Hillary nominated. There are lots of down ticket Democrats to work for this Novemeber. I’ll busy even if Hillary does not win the nomination.
The Politness Trolls didn’t work. The Roe vs. Wade thing didn’t work. The “ignore Hillary media campaign is not working. I guess the new ploy is to play on our loyalty to Hillary. i’m loyal to Hillary based on her credentials, not her personality. Obama is not qualified to be Commander in Chief. He is a security risk. I cannot vote for him. What Hillary may or may not ask me to do is irrelevant.
What if Hillary asked me to jump off the George Washington Bridge?
True, I agree that he’s too uninformed and lacks the credentials to be president. It would be irresponsible to vote for him, in my opinion.
I’m thinking about Nader.
Not sure what the procedure for “writing-in” would be.
I think you should vote for the person whose platform and beliefs are closest to yours.
Eight years ago and then four years ago, I was so rude to everyone who said they were voting for Nader. I took it as one vote less for Gore and then Kerry. Now I realize that it was sheer party driven dogma loyalty that I was espousing. Every American gets one vote for President every four years and it is their right and duty to cast it as they personally see fit. What this election cycle has done for me is open my eyes. As a woman, I have toed the line for every male candidate regardless of how “electable” they were. We now have the most electable candidate of all three who happens to be a woman. Rather than support her, the boyz are supporting the least qualified of the three. So. No more Ms. Nicegirl. If Hillary Clinton is not my option, I will go for number two in qualification and experience. And that is John Sidney McCain. I couldn’t honestly vote for Obama to be Governor of Ohio much less President of the US. He’s too interested in selling America to the highest bidder … starting with the health care industry and moving along to the finance and Wall Street firms.
Incase anyone is wondering why they are working so hard to convince you otherwise, just think…they use ever tactic available to stiffle opposition to suppress dissent to avoid answering questions to hide the truth about his past.
What do we know about him? Really everything about him has been quickly manufactured. He even wrote his own autobiography and as several reviewers have noted, made up or to politely term it embellished his past to make it a better read. Come on, who the hell writes their own autobiography at age 28?
Why is the MSM thats in the can for him so afraid to touch any of the stories about his ties to mideast money? Where do you really think all those bundlers of small unaccountable donations are getting most of their cash from? How does a poor disadvantages black man get so many plum deals, contracts, cash advances, book deals, 1.6 Million dollor home deals, the list goes on and on.
Ever wonder why Hammas is saying they like and want him to be the next POTUS? Why wouldn’t terrorist groups and dictators and state sponsors of terrorism love a POTUS that wants to sit and talk with no preconditions?
Why does he have to work so hard to constantly try to convince the Jewish community that he has isreals back?
Why does he get upset and call any questions or concerns about his past assosications (as he calls them), people who helped him form his political morals and identity, people who helped him get to the national stage and funded his rise to fame, why is asking about them “just distractions and the politics of the past?”
Why does he obfuscate, bamboozle and hoodwink you with Hope and Change and Not This Time, and other phrases and speech fragments from better politicians and better men that he has adopted as his own.
Why is what we know about him so scarey that they call anyone who brings it up a racist?
Why is OBAMA so afraid to let you find out the truth?
Think!
Obama IS the Manchurian Candidate.
Wake Up American Before its too late!!!!
Well Vince Foster maybe you can understand this. I will try to be as clear as possible. I would FAR rather have a Democrat controled Senate and House, probably with a veto proof majority and a John McCain President then have a Lying, racist, Dommestic Terrorist MURDERER loving,misogynistic, xenophobic, homophobic, smarmy sack of shit with a meaningless tag of DEM after his name as President with a Senate and Cingress that would probably roll over for any stupid thing he wants to do. Did I mention he’s a dickless, BALLESS coward also? Hasn’t even got the sand to appear in an unscripted open question and answer forum with Hillary or EVEN by himself. My question to you is, how can YOU support such a disgracefull individual?
Intially when I first saw and listened to Obama, I was very impressed. He is the best public speaker running for the Presidency since Ronald Reagan. I even consider voting for him. However as I learned about his Tony Recko helping him with buying his house. Using Federal money to get his wife hospital a million dollar earmark and soon afterward his wife got a 200k raise. His connection with Robert Backwell where his recieved 8k per month on his payroll and he later got State money grants for Backwell company. I saw that this man has no problem with using goverment money and his polictical connections to enrich himself. Now throw in Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers and his other radical friends and supporters. I went from being impressed by Mr. Obama to radically opposed.
I am not a fan of Hillary Clinton. However this country has many many problems that need to be addressed. If Obama is the nominee, this fall election rather than being a election addressing this nations problems. It’s going be addressing Mr. Obama scandals. Obama is not uniting this country, he is dividing it and he is dividing his own party. Hillary Clinton is the better Candidate for the Democratic Party.
I hope this tape come out before the Democratic Convention if it exists and Obama is forced to step down. So that in November this country can have a election with the issues and problems can be discussed. And the best candidate can be elected by this Country. Be it Hillory Clinton or John McCain.
It appears that the Obama supporters plan to make nice to Hillary supporters failed again. Obama fans once again showed rude behavior -
this time at the Colorado State Convention.
My daughter who as county Hillary delegate in
Colorado told me that the Obama supporters were
booing every Hillary supporter that got up to talk and the when Terry McAuliffe spoke, they had to gavel the convention to quiet them three times.
They booed when he talked about the popular vote, they shouted no Michigan and no Florida, when he
mentioned those two state. While Clinton backers campaigned to be national-convention delegates outside the arena, Obama supporter walked thorugh their area yelling “Oh, come on, smell the coffee! and your candidate is a loser.” She said the long time convention attendees said they had never seen anything like it and on the local news
Former state Rep. Fran Coleman, a Clinton supporter, said that the episode was disappointing and blamed it on the many political newcomers backing Obama. “They treat it like a sports event,” the Denver Democrat said.
“There’s a real disrespect there.”
I am not surprised to hear this.
It’s been this way on the blogs all year, it was reported over and over in the caucuses, and now it’s not hidden since these are the people who were at the caucuses bullying out Hillary voters.
It’s now going to be on TV.
Frankly, I think the percentage of people who are going to walk away from this party is going to be much higher than the original exit polls showed: 22-28%.
I think it’s going to end up looking a lot more like WVA when people start seeing this behavior on TV.
Americans aren’t going to put up with this nonsense.
I hope these Obama fanatics show more of this callous disrespect to remind the millions of Hillary Clinton supporters everywhere that there is a very potent way to teach these thugs a lesson. VOTE FOR MCCAIN IN NOVEMBER!
You wait until McCain is his opponent. They will show so much tape of this that older Democratic voters will be scared shitless and early vote McCain to stay the hell away from voting booths. I certainly expect to and I’m not that old. I just don’t need to see a bunch of loonies show their ass.
I’m an American before I am a Hilalry supporter and as an American, having Obama in the white house would be scarier than having Bush, Cheney, and mcCain all in the oval office at the same time.
I, as an American, will be voting my conscience and for the greatness of this country. Obama certainly is not included in that greatness.
THats precisely what the obama trolls don’t understand.
For us Hillary supporters its not a choice between Hillary or Obama, and if we dont get hillary then we are just pissy and will vote McCain.
Its a choice between Hillary, a qualified candidate who is a true american warts and all, or foregoing our love and respect for this country and voting for Obama.
That will never happen. Some of us will not drink the kool-aid no matter how much sugar you dump in it.
Nobama 08
I agree. It has frustrated the normal Democratic workers all year long. They kept reporting what was going on, and it’s simply been ignored by the DNC.
No more. They aren’t going to ignore a mass exudus.
NARAL has been practically shut down due to the endorsement and cut off by all the state affiliates.
It’s happening. A true revolution is underway.
And when is the last time you’ve seen so many people interested in a tape that can’t be seen. LOL*
People are simply not going to put up with this crap.
So if you read the rules adopted by the rules committee previously, it states that if the state legislature changes the primary dates but the states make a good faith effort to resolve the problem (for example offering a redo) the delegations will be seated. So in fact both, Florida and Michigan attempted to make a good faith effort to redo but the obama people stopped it. I admit people like Bob Shurm, Kerry, Kennedy, Brazile and the Obama people might not have read the rules but there they are…so what will happen who knows how many of the rules committe have drunk the kool-aid but I believe that legal minds on the committee might just have to seat the delegations.
I read Brazile’s remarks after her dust-up on TV. She had the nerve to say, “I’m trying to remain neutral for the sake of the party.”
Good golly, it’s hard to believe the level of disingenuousness that is so obvious right now.
It’s interesting to see a new approach to brige building coming from the Obama side. We have gone straight from Politeness Trolls to Intervention Trolls. The Obama movement has written me off and does not need my vote. The new tactic seems to be that Hillary supporters are too stupid to know what’s best for them. The new haka consists of Vincent Foster types giving stern lectures as a form of show trials. “See that? I tried to reason with those people. They refuse to understand what’s best for them.” This approach is similar to Bush’s “explaining” the war to the American People.”
It’s all about that diagram we saw. They just don’t spend enough time understanding that there isn’t a snowball’s chance in three days in the Virgin Islands during the Easter holiday that anyone here is going to be persuaded that Obama is deserving of our vote. They can just live with it. They ran people off of Huffington Post, Kos, MyDD and every place else and wonder why no one wants to talk to them now?
Good point. I think it’s important to acknowledge their tactics, though. It’s in Obama’s interest to dampen our enthusiasm. That’s why we keep seeing words like “accept” and “inevitable.”
It’s also in Obama’s interest to suppress the voter turn out. “If you won’t vote for Obama, don’t vote for McCain” is a part of long range strategy. If they can’t make us vote for Obama, they want us to stay home.
No. I have never stayed home. Even in Texas all those years where my Democratic vote was only a protest. I went to the polls each and every time and PROUDLY voted my party. I will proudly vote this time too. I will stick out my chin and proudly vote my concious. I think that every American who doesn’t vote should have to work on a road crew for a week. That would make the biggest difference in the world.
We are AMERICANS before Democrats.
As am AMERICAN who supports Hillary, I find the choice of Obama to be utterly appalling and will not support him in the fall. As an AMERICAN, I will support the candidate who is the best experienced to lead our country to greatness. That candidate is NOT Barack Obama.
So if the candidate choices do NOT include Hillary, I will be supporting Senator John McCain.
As an American, that is my obligation, and as I assume the people on this site are Americans too, our duties to America come before our duties to Hillary. Even if Hillary says to unite, I will not. i will be voting for my American conscience.
Read it again Obama Trolls:
Michael posted-
We are AMERICANS before Democrats.
As am AMERICAN who supports Hillary, I find the choice of Obama to be utterly appalling and will not support him in the fall. As an AMERICAN, I will support the candidate who is the best experienced to lead our country to greatness. That candidate is NOT Barack Obama.
So if the candidate choices do NOT include Hillary, I will be supporting Senator John McCain.
As an American, that is my obligation, and as I assume the people on this site are Americans too, our duties to America come before our duties to Hillary. Even if Hillary says to unite, I will not. i will be voting for my American conscience.
- now how hard is that to comprehend? even for the Kool-aid drinkers?
AnninCA – Which outburst was this? Has some brave soul compiled her e-mails in response to Hillary supporters?
No, the one on TV where she said the new party is urban and young.
She’s such a loose cannon. I can hardly believe someone that unprofessional has won awards.
supporting Obama because he’s “cool” LMAO. What a joke. I’m 24 and I’ve never seen a bigger boob-dork screaming “hope” and “change” to a bunch of gullible Americans in my life.
The only think cool about Barack is his first name. Whenever I see him open his mouth and talk about the hope-iness and change-iness, I shudder in revulsion and amusement. His whole platform is the same platform that has been run for 200+ years, and here is this awkward, skinny, stuttering porky-pig-esque character trying to convince me and fellow college students that he’s “cool hip and young”
um…he’s older than my father. i don’t consider that “hip and young” by any means.
+, if the only thing Bawak has going for him is being supposedly “cool” then that is the worst possible reason to vote for him. Bill Clinton had both the “cool” factor and a long record in exectuive office as the governor of Arkansas. +, he had a great political mind, was naturally gifted at speaking (unlike Barack), and had fresher ideas + better debating skills (again, unlike Barack)
dear trolls, we are voting for mccain to teach the dnc a lesson and because we are voting against obama, an un-american lying racist. run along now, back to the obama toilet with the other turds. and it doesnt matter if hillary wants us to back obama, itsnot going to work. we dont like obama, never….he and his wife will never soil the whitehouse sheets.
And now we have “Inevitability Trolls.” I’m trying to finish my “Trolls of the World” calendar for 2009. I keep have to revise it because of all the new troll species. “Concern Troll” has been bumped as Mr. February for “Politness Troll.” I think “Copy and Paste Troll” is going to be replaced by “Inevitabilty Troll.” (April – Tax month.)
As riverdaughter says “It ain’t over until the baloons drop in Denver.”
I’m one of Nita Lowey’s constituents. I work hard on local Dem elections. No matter who is at the top of the ticket, I am fired up for my local elections. Nita is great. I told her I couldn’t wait to work on her Senate capaign!
GUYS: IMPORTANT:
No matter WHAT Obama trolls try to spew or tell you, WE DO MATTER. Polls are showing that anywhere from 35-60% of Hillary’s supporters are willing to defect in the event that Obama is the nominee. That means at least 5-9 million Hillary supporters will be the huge shift in power this year and anything these Obamalamas are trying to force-feed us is fruitless against 5-9 million potential defectors.
WE are strong in both number, mind-power, will, and courage and we WILL make this country hear us loud and clear.
Personally I would be happier if 100% of Hillary supporters defected from Oblahma.
It is a LLLLLLLLLL ong time until November. Snobama hasn’t fully snubbed the 57 states yet. Hillary’s supporters are sprinkled MIGHTILY in those states he needs to convince. He already shit on Ohio and Pennsylvania in SFO so he can forget about us. I guess that means we get MeeeeemyselfandIshelle instead of him. Which is okay by me since she gets substantially less coverage than him. By time November comes around, 100 per cent of Hill’s supporters will have had a chance to see how he treats her and I would bet my last nickle that his history holds up …. sweetie, anyone?
They know already. I had dinner with some friends who aren’t really tracking it closely. They are shocked at the treatment and going for McCain, mostly due to Obama’s tax proposals.
McCain suits many people’s pocketbooks where I live. Dual income families will get hit by Obama and for what? A bad health care plan that won’t work?
Well said, Michael! We are going to play a big part in the November elections. I intend to stay fully engaged.
My father-in-law (an active Republican and NRA member) retired to Jacksonville Florida. I went shooting with him when I visited two months ago. The guys at his gun club (knowing I was from NY) asked me what I thought of Hillary.
Turns out my f-i-l’s buddies hated McCain. Some of them are exmilitary. They wanted the option of voting for Hillary. Some of my f-i-l’s conservative pals think McCain is a “marxist” which I don’t get at all.
My point is, McCain has weaknesses within his own party. None of the Republicans I know will vote for Obama. Clinton, maybe. A Clinton candicacy could win based on some new alliances, among other things.
“And issues are going to be at the forefront with Obama against McCain.”
Indeed they will. Issues like Rezko, Auchi, Ayers and Wright. Issues like why Obama is dangerous to this country, how weak he is on national security, his questionable loyalties to the country, his crooked dealings in Chicago, his lack of experience.
They’ll be lots of “issues.” The problem is Obama has no track record to counteract the attacks that will come. There’s no foundation for him to fall back on, he’s an empty suit. You can see his weak strategy already, in trying to combat those silly “Obama is a Muslim” rumors, he offers up his church where his pastor preaches “God damned America”. For crying out loud, it would have been better if everyone was left believing Obama was a Muslim.
He’s like a gift to Republicans. He writes his own attack ads with a little help from his wife and his friends.
Not to mention Obama’s international issues and his energy issues. No, I’m not being snarky about Obama’s fatigue on the campaign trail. McCain’s people are already going after Obama on forsupporting “dirty energy.” McCain has a better track record on environmental issues than Obama.
Of the three candidates, he’s the ONLY one who voted for the Bush/Cheney energy plan … BO was almost alone insofar as real DEMOCRATS are concerned. Kind of pathetic, but he owed his vote to his bunglers …. er, rather, bundlers, but hey, he doesn’t take $$$$$ from special interests, right ?????
hahahahahahahahahahhahaha
He’s worse than Bush for gaffes on international issues.
And the Dem boys aren’t going to be able to save him everytime like this past week.
Already, he’s a joke that it’s ALL ABOUT HIM.
There’s only so much his supporters can do to cover up the incompetence.
now when i think of obama i think of little lord fort! i shortened it! i can see him prancing around in all his finery with that pathetic michelle. i want to throw up! the world just be laughing their asses off!
Hillary is out to win NOW
Because it is NOT about power
Because it is NOT about title
It is about what is in her heart…and in her brilliant mind: that she IS THE BEST ONE FOR THE JOB
To help ALL Americans
To implement SOLUTIONS expediently, effectively and expertly
It is to WIN for America
Some us get it
Hillary IS THE ONE
Losers
Apparently Bro didnt get the memo from Adolf Axelrod. Here let me repost it for him:
Dear Obama Supporters,
Its time to tone down the rehtoric and the nastyness and be nice to those bitches. We need them to vote for Barry or we are f*cked in November.
Now I know we at Obamatopia headquarters have been shitting on them non stop for the past 12 months and doing everything we can to frame them as racists with our slash and burn tactics of destroying the party from the inside while telling everyone we are about hope and change and unity.
But its time to look at the bigger picture. Lets face it loyal Koolaid Drinkers, we cant win in november with the limited constituancy of overpaid elitists, African Americans, and the myopic teeniboppers we handed out beer drinking money to at every college campus we visited.
Lets face it, we cant stand on the issues, we dont have any experience, and we are scared shitless that the media we bought and paid for along with the supers like Richardson that we promissed a position to will turn on us if the public perception begins to waver.
We need your help now, don’t worry about sending money, we have plenty from our middle east backers that we are hiding in bundles and saying its from small doners like you. What we need is for you to hit the blogs every day and try to convince those Bitches that Hillary = Obama. Its the only chance we have we need her votes.
Remember once we get in the white house we can dump the jews and latinos and hicks and catholics and feminists and bitter gun clingers and bible thumpers. We can ride em dirty later. But right now we need to tell them we love them and will respect them after the election.
Do Your Duty.
Love Peace and All Praise Obama our Savior,
Adolf Axelrod.
Yeah I got that memo. In fact I helped write a couple of the paragraphs there. What’s your point?
11:22:27
Apparently Bro didnt get the memo from Adolf Axelrod. Here let me repost it for him:
Dear Obama Supporters,
Its time to tone down the rehtoric and the nastyness and be nice to those bitches. We need them to vote for Barry or we are f*cked in November.
Now I know we at Obamatopia headquarters have been shitting on them non stop for the past 12 months and doing everything we can to frame them as racists with our slash and burn tactics of destroying the party from the inside while telling everyone we are about hope and change and unity.
But its time to look at the bigger picture. Lets face it loyal Koolaid Drinkers, we cant win in november with the limited constituancy of overpaid elitists, African Americans, and the myopic teeniboppers we handed out beer drinking money to at every college campus we visited.
Lets face it, we cant stand on the issues, we dont have any experience, and we are scared shitless that the media we bought and paid for along with the supers like Richardson that we promissed a position to will turn on us if the public perception begins to waver.
We need your help now, don’t worry about sending money, we have plenty from our middle east backers that we are hiding in bundles and saying its from small doners like you. What we need is for you to hit the blogs every day and try to convince those Bitches that Hillary = Obama. Its the only chance we have we need her votes.
Remember once we get in the white house we can dump the jews and latinos and hicks and catholics and feminists and bitter gun clingers and bible thumpers. We can ride em dirty later. But right now we need to tell them we love them and will respect them after the election.
Do Your Duty.
Love Peace and All Praise Obama our Savior,
Adolf Axelrod.
That was HILARIOUS!
Look, I know Obama’s not ready to be president. I know he can’t win in the electoral college, especially after disenfranchising Michigan and Florida. I admit his lost in West Virginia was humiliating. I know he has more baggage than a Greyhound bus, and that there is very likely even more dirt out there. I know he is afraid to debate Hillary because he’s scared. I know he doesn’t want to do town hall meetings because he’s scared of those, too. I know his wife has an ugly attitude. I know all of these things, but I can’t help myself. I need Obama like a Unity Pony needs a carrot.
He’s so cool. Don’t you see how cool he is? Can’t you please just let me have him as the nominee? Please? I promise I won’t ask for anything ever again.
No.
I personally think that’s going to be “priceless”
I could sure use a million bucks – does anyone know if they’re still selling the tapes online? I would be willing to examine the tapes for that much. Maybe even bribe a few of the church-members to see if they remember anything useful.
Obama might prove useful after all – I’ll even donate a percentage to No Quarter if I find the tape…except I don’t know if I can sit through all that hate speech and still retain my sanity. Sanity or a million bucks? Tough decision. Any takers?
It’s time for a viable third party.
Do not support for Obama in November. Obama and his vile and hateful supporters do not deserve to win. They treat Democrats that do not support Obama in disrespectful ways. Think how they will treat America and the world if they are in the White House.
Read their messages above and on other blogs.
Let’s get organized, defeat Obama in November, and start a viable third party that has true Democratic principles. Can someone please cite a website where we can go to and get organized?
Several groups are starting:
Clinton Supporters Count Too! – will boycott NBC and its affiliates on Primary Election Night (as well as protest at their studios) and will vote McCain if Obama is nominee, will also work to bring down any superdelegates who support Obama – the clearly far inexperienced and unelectable candidate, thereby not performing their duty to the party so they need to be ousted. Also, will concentrate resources in the main swing states that determine all elections: OH, PA, MI, and FL. Calling also for seating of delegates from MI and FL, to stop the misogyny and overt sexism, media fairness and accountability.
Nationally – Steve Corbett of WILK-FM radio in PA is calling for
Operation Turn-Down Obama. Will not vote for him if he is the nominee, renounce Democratic Party and become an Independent.
http://www.wilknetwork.com/pages/322229.php
Can listen live from 3-7pm.
Also – Women Count PAC is also running ads in national major newspapers calling for the end of media bias to let Hillary run till the end and to stop depressing voter turn-out with their bias reporting.
I’m sure there are a lot more.
It’s a new movement. We are fed up with being marginalized and abused by the media, Obama campaign, and the DNC – people are fighting back!
So there’s no proof at all of this tape even existing except for rumors from “people” you’re not willing to divulge?
Sounds like this is just propagandistic garbage being put out, on the same level as the “McCain has a black lovechild” push polls. Anyone that does a little research will realize it’s a fraud, but not everyone does, so it helps a little.
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