The Clear and Present Danger
By SusanUnPC on May 18, 2008 at 2:49 PM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayers, Black nationalism, Chicago politics, David Axelrod, Delegates, Democrats, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Michelle Obama, Minister Louis Farrakhan, New Black Panther Party, Obamedia, Race Card, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., Weather Underground, William Ayers
WE HAVE A COUNTER-FORCE TO THIS CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER!
AND IT IS YOU AND I!
As MacAddict wrote to me today:
I have not seen a strong response to Obama heading to Iowa (see “Obama To Spend Tues. Night in Iowa, Possibly Will Claim Victory“) and I think their needs to be a strong effort to get the narrative out that this is the Obama strategy to “Declare Victory Before it is Too Late.”
When Hillary wins Kentucky by double digits, it will be clear that Hillary has a plurality of the popular vote. Once the Rules committee votes to include FL and MI then she will also be closer in the delegate numbers and it will clear that no one will reach the magic number.
Hillary’s momentum is picking up and Obama wants to take it away before the MSM picks up on the fact that Hillary is the popular vote winner, has won the most key states, and has the best chance to beat McCain.
No one wins until the person reaches the magic number. The voters will determine the winner not the candidates nor the MSM. This strategy should be painted as a loser trying to take his ball and go home when there is still two minutes left in the game – two minutes left in a game where one team is ahead but the other team is catching up fast. No one would accept this strategy or accept this as victory. Even the MSM and maybe even Chris Matthews could understand this. Timmy would even understand that the Red Sox could not declare they won the World Series when they were ahead 3-2. This is the world series and Barrick was ahead 3-1 now it is 3-2 and he wants to declare victory before it is 3-3 ( after Kentucky when it will be clear she has the lead in the popular vote and he maintains a slim lead in the delegate count) and before it becomes 3-4 in favor of Hillary ( after additional wins in the remaining primaries).
Hillary and her campaign need to hammer this “Declare Victory Before it is too late – is the strategy of a loser.” It should not work in politics and would be a disaster as the policy of a sitting President.
Think of all the examples of from history where the US stood up under dire circumstances and went on to Victory -
The Alamo, Pearl Harbor, Bastogne, etc and think of the same thing in politics – “Dewey defeats Truman” (Truman was a fighter and so is Hillary) “Americans love a winner and can not stand a loser.” America also loves the underdog and the fighter. Obama’s strategy is the strategy of a a person who is afraid to lose and afraid to fight. It is the strategy of a loser. Obama is a loser.
My two cents.
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Sorry for the OT: It says at the Trinity church website that Wright will speak live tonight at 7 p.m. I guess that’s Eastern Standard Time, as it says he’s to start three hours from now.
Sources tell me that it is the intent of the Odrama Campaign to claim victory by Friday by an all out assault on the SD’s to commit. They do NOT want the Rules Committee to be able to consider seating FL and MI before they are able to get the delegates to win. If you haven’t been calling KY and OR, this is the time. The bigger the margin the better. Like Bush in 2000, he’s going to claim it whether its his or not. That’s just one more way he’s like Bush, and we know how that has turned out.
Saw an interview this AM from Jax FL, my home state, with Corinne Brown. She said 10,000? Floridians would be in Washington to demand Florida be seated.
She is supporting Hillary.
The argument to be made is ths. The Republican Gov and Senate were the ones that changed the dates, not the voters. So in truth we had no say. But Obama wants to take our votes away, whine baby that he is.
talktruth, please send me an e-mail– susanunpc at gmail dot com
Just so I’m clear: is Obama a threat because he’ll lose to McCain, or because he’s a covert black nationalist intent on seizing the means of production and creating an Afro-communist police state?
(also, y’all know that HRC wrote her college thesis on Saul Alinsky and the merits of leftist organizing, right?)
(also, y’all know that HRC wrote her college thesis on Saul Alinsky and the merits of leftist organizing, right?)
incorrect.
owl06 -
Why is the statement “Hillary wrote her college thesis on Saul Alinsky and the merits of leftist organizing” incorrect?
Here’s the link to the article that says she did:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17388372/
As Hillary supporters (and I SUPPORT Hillary 100%), we need to be truthful to counter the untruths and innuendo of the more rabid Obama supporters.
Maybe you disagreed with the second part of the statement: “the merits of leftist organizing.” I could understand that. But Hillary DID write her senior thesis with the title: ” There Is Only The Fight: An Analysis of The Alinsky Model.”
If you know this to to be in error, please provide proof so I can correct my information.
Thank you.
Are you “Cate” over at Riverdaughter – your names are very similar? You know…one of the 400 paid BS artists for BO?
They always start out with “I’m a women and a Hillary supporter”.
Dooh!
I thought so too, maybe one of the 400. we can spot fraud a mile away.
Shainzona -
Nope. And I still support Hillary, even with the nastiness tossed at anyone here who dares to ask a legitmate question.
So far, I’ve been called a moron, a troll, and stupid at this site. The ONLY reason I hang on here is because some of the information posted at No Quarter gives me hope for Senator Clinton’s victory, and I’m angered by the Obama worship/Clinton hatred at sites like TPM and Mark Kleiman, and in the MSM.
Sadly, a few of you express the same intolerance found in the Obama-fanatic blogs. Don’t do it. That makes you/us no better than them, and just as immature.
You are correct about the title of Hillary’s thesis but not about the conclusions she came to. She came to the conclusion that Alinsky’s methods would not work effectively to change things on a large scale—too divisive at a nationwide level to ever be successful. HRC was offered a position by Alinsky himself but chose another path. She met Alinsky and MLK in the same time frame and it was the path of MLK that she thought was most promising in the long run. Check out her speech at Wellesley commencement. Please note that it is Obama who was schooled in Alinsky’s methodology and has very much incorporated his tactics in the O campaign. See a post at Anglachels that reveals the hard knuckled fund raising tactics of the O campaign and how he is using funds not only to buy support but to ensure that his donors do not donate to others and send all their dollars to him to be channeled to others. That is a very bare knuckled but wildly successful money machine operation. It has some features that Rove put together on K Street.
Jangles -
Exactly. I’m glad to see that someone else read that article. Thank you for clarifying.
Sweetie, he’s going to lose to McCain. Is this coming as a great big shock to you?
Switch hitter huh, Vincy-boy???
I think it’s a sign of desperation for him to declare victory so early… SD’s know this too. I spoke to one the other day that said many of them are shaking their heads at the antics! Him going to MI and FL before the end of the Primaries are another thing many are shaking their heads about… I mean it’s pretty clear that since he sees that victory isn’t as close as he thinks it WAS…he know goes out and tries to yell the loudest that he’s won! It’s not going to change anything because he’s still going to have to go to the Convention because that is where this is all headed now! He’s not going to reach the magic number of PLEDGED delegates (SD’s vote doesn’t count until Convention) and it looks like he’s going to lag in the Popular Vote. Only leading in Pledged Delegates without the magic number isn’t going to be much of a selling point without that lead in the Popular Vote too. Obama now knows this and so this is a last ditch attempt to scream the loudest (as he always does)…
I guess he thinks if he does this then they cant deny him the nomination… LOL
Video doesn’t seem to be working now.
Those wonderful unifying Obama hackers again?
it’s a sign of arrogance and stupidity. the only way to ensure he won’t get Hillary’s democrats is to try to hijack it prematurely. but he had to do something, she challenged his ego when she made her rousing speech in WV, and he was listening and thinking, I must do something to counter her message that she can win if the voters turn out and show she has momentum, while he knows he’s lost a lot of his own. Poor fellow, trapped into promising a mission accomplished moment. And with like 70 percent of Americans wanting it to play out and angry with the media for a premature declaration de facto to Barack, he needs to get some of those voters disliking him?
Contact the superdelegates in your individual states and tell them you will not support ever again any down-party Dems who support Obama. They are all very worried about their own re-election, and this will have the desired effect of making them listen to the voters. Thanks!!!
Her campaign will politely disagree that he has reached the needed number.
There are some excellent posts today agreeing with you.
http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/05/fear-and-loathing.html
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Just so YOU know, Hillary’s thesis has been released. What is Michelle Obama hiding? Why is her thesis under “lock and key”? Why are the Obama’s preventing it from being released? What is it that Team Obama is afraid or ashamed to share with the American people?
While we’re at it, why can’t anyone view Obama’s birth certificate? What’s the biggie? For goodness sakes, it’s just a fricking birth certificate, correct? What’s the problem?
What is Team Obama hiding?
You can read Michelle’s Princton Thesis on line – it is cached. Just google “Michelle Obama’s Princton Thesis”.
I had no idea that Obama was hiding his birth certificate. Other than something about his name he doesn’t want us to see. Or his parents names…
Hmmm another mystery.
Like the Anointed One’s book, the thesis is one brutal read. It is poorly written, and right out of the Wright/BLT mold.
Very odd about the birth certificate! Parent/s name/s? The rumored “M” second middle name for O?
This is the first I’m hearing of this? What is the alleged name? Curiouser and curiouser.
Maybe he is afraid his fathers heritage will be listed on the birth certificate. According to a research paper I read, Obama’s father was listed with the Kenyan Government as an Arab African. If so that would make him an Arab American not African American.
All three of his names are Arabic. Obama being Swahili. Arabs settled on the East Coast and the resulting culture became known as Swahili. If you read the history of slavery you will find that it was Arabs that captured Asians, whites, blacks. Be ironic if blacks were responsible for electing an Arab, masquerading as a black. And they still harbor hatred at whites for being slavers?
Well Tzada….You just picked at an ugly scab in AA culture and politics….we just cannot look at the whole picture can we….
Hillary may have written a thesis about Alinsky, but Barack Obama is the one that followed his principles. I am sure that if Hillary had done her thesis on Mao Tse-Tung, y’all would be insinuating that she was a Maoist, too.
The last time that I checked, Hillary didn’t associate or mentor with racists or Weather Underground scum. And as for a communist police state, we would not have to worry about that with Hillary. Who knows what other radical associations Obama and his wife have. Personally, I am not as worried about his radical connections as I am concerned about his association with his corrupt political contemporaries in the Chicago political machine. Chicago style politics is not what America needs!
I agree – Chicago politics is not the change America needs – we would be going from bad to worse!
They are in the process of arming 13,000 police officers in Chicago with assault weapons. That would make a small army.
See above post about HRC thesis. She concluded Alinsky methods would not work on a large scale; she turned down a position with Alinsky in Chicago. O was a community organizer in Chicago trained and doing exactly the Alinsky methods HRC did not choose.
Barack is no threat, he’s just trying to hijack the nomination. He’s the insider favorite, he’s bet to beat Hillary. But he hasn’t been able to close the deal and he’s losing his momentum and she’s looking even better, and he’s not sure he’ll win the good old-fashioned way, by campaigning and asking folks to vote for him, so he’s trying to cut the process short and his campaign is claiming that the longer it goes on the more he will be diminished in the GE. Some of her backers would like to see it go to the convention and we resent him for playing games with this. At least I do. This ploy is supposed to make his backers angry if it’s “taken away” from him, and he first has to give it to himself or that wouldn’t make sense. The the super’s are supposed to fear the backlash from his supporters and give it to him to prevent this backlash. in this way, very similar to George Bush on the tactical level. But such a tactic may bully him into the nom, but will diminish him in the eyes of democrats and he probably won’t win the GE if he’s seen as such an arrogant and self-serving egomaniac. If you know him, tell him not to. Tell him it’s dumb and will backfire.
In a sane world, and with objective, impartial people running the DNC, Obama would have been gently pushed out of the race weeks ago so the party can unite behind the qualified, electable Clinton. But instead he’s about to “declare victory.” It’s like he’s read one too many of those self-help books Oprah gave him and is trying to visualize victory, then pretend it’s true, hoping the rest of us won’t notice what a sham the whole thing is. It’s on his bookshelf between the one about how to charm women by calling them sweetie and the atlas he obviously has never used.
Larry, Obama has 120 superdelegates who have firmly committed to him. They all will come forward in a couple weeks. With Obama’s double double digit win in Oregon he will have all the delegates he needs to win. The DNC will not change the rules at the end of the race. Hillary can only claim popular vote is she does not count caucuses and claims Obama got zero votes in michigan. If you count the ‘blank votes’ in michigan by 40% for Obama… Obama still leads the popular vote.
If you go by polls.. Obama and Clinton are only 5-10 points apart in michigan. We could do a revote.. but Obama would only need to win 20% in michigan to keep the popular vote lead. That’s with giving Hillary the votes as they stand now in Florida.
I hope when this ends and Hillary supports Obama you don’t turn on her like a snake and rip into her like you do Obama.
If so, you never supported her to begin with. It will be a test of your loyality to your lady.
We will see.
Hillary support Obama? If she does then I’ll be HIGHLY disappointed in her. She has told the truth about him and how he is NOT qualified. I hope she refuses to endorse him and I hope she doesnt’ work for him. HE DOESN’T DESERVE HER!!!
I will NEVER vote for Obama.
Rival Camps Plan Inevitable Merger
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/17/AR2008051702425.html?hpid=topnews
Believe it or not… this race is not about you. It’s not about hillary… or obama… in the end… it’s about getting a democrat in the White House. He can’t take anymore of the gop’s tragic policy’s.
Hillary is so much better than her campaign. Hillary was deeply let down by Mark Penn.
I understand your pain and anger… but Hillary’s loss is not Obama’s fault. It’s Mark Penn’s fault.
Aim your rage at the right person.
http://tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=f7a4a380-c4a4-4f84-b653-f252e8569915
Believe it or not … this race IS ABOUT ME .. it’s about ALL OF US … and it’s NOT about the democratic party or getting a democrat in the White House. It’s about US AMERICANS. ALL of us – Dems, Republicans, Libertarians, Constitution Partiers, Independents … it most definately IS about US and what is best for US. It shouldn’t have to do with party loyalty. If it did – I’d be pulling the Republican lever because I’m a registered Republican.
You have forgotten what this is all about – WE THE PEOPLE. And WE want a non-sexist non-racist – which leaves Obama out.
Amen to that, and there is nothing worse for this country than blindly following some ideal of party loyalty even if the party is about to self-destruct.
When I was kid, and I didn’t understand why my mother wouldn’t let me do things that other kids were doing, she would say to me, “If all the other kids jumped off a cliff, would you jump, too?”
Apparently, the thought process here is that we should all go off of the cliff together. No can do. Thank you, Mama for raising an independent thinker.
Party loyalty is only deserved when its reciprocated and the DP has done nothing to deserve loyalty by its members.
Fuck them and their multicultural politically correct psychopath that they are trying to foist on us.
McCain gets my vote November if Barky gets the nomination. I personally despise McCain but at least he’s not threat to national security like Barky.
LOL! I was just talking with my kids about that very thing that my mother said to me. I used it in regards to not following what is popular rather to do what is right.
LOL! I was just talking with my kids about that very thing that my mother said to me.
…To not following what is popular rather to do what is right.
LOL! I was just talking with my kids about that very thing that my mother said to me.
…Not to follow what is popular. Rather, to do what is right.
Thank you, my thoughts exactly , except I am a Dem (Until this primary a PROUD Dem) who has never even considerred voting anything but straight Dem. But First I am an American and so could never vote for Obama. I won’t stay home either, because Obama rather we stay home, then he would still have a chance of winning. So I will vote for McCain and look at it more as taking away 1 of Obama’s votes instead of actually being for McCain. But it isn’t a vote of spite, I truly believe out of the choices so far Hillary would be the best President, then McCain then way down my list would be Obama. IF Hillary isn’t on the ballot, which I still think she will be (am hoping at least) Then of the 2 McCain is my choice.
My husband and daughter and I will be right with you, Lyn!
Amen to that!
You do have to admire the new technique however, don’t you?
Send “women for Hillary?” What a real scum bucket the obama camp is. They know how much the boyz have pissed her supporters off, so send some pseudo girls and say relatively kind things about Hillary and then start the inevitable talk, and then Unity the Hopey Changey Pony rides in ….
That story will shut down the small donor
money flowing into HRC but not to Obama.
Could that be its intent? AP has not been helpful.
That story will not do a damn thing unless we let it. The media has been from the beginning nothing more than a very ugly Obama cheerleader. Remember when they were saying the McCain campaign was in trouble because he was having to borrow money and that he would be dropping out of the race shortly? Did that come true? Unless I’m badly mistaken he’s the Republican nominee and Romney and Huckabee are the ones who dropped out.
If Hillary says she’s staying in, that’s good enough for me. And if Obama and the DNC think she’s going to stand by quietly like Kerry did while someone steals something from her, they better come to their senses.
You’re so wrong. It is about me. The Democratic party is a tool to represent my interest. When it no longer does this I no longer have an interest in supporting it.
no dear..it is about the will of the people..and 7000 caucus go’ers does not equal 1.7+ million primary voters in a closed dem state of florida.
take your bullshit elsewhere..and all the kings horses and all the kings men will never ever get me to vote for that crook!! got it?????
get it..i don’t care what Hillary says ..after Obama steals it..she will say what she has to say..i will do as an American what i have to do ..keep that novice crook out of my white house!
fly..a 2004 elected Dem Delegate for the State of Florida.
oh and every dem i know here in Fla ..and i know alot….feel the same way..we are working very hard here in Fla to make sure that crook never gets anywhere near our white house!
Thank you. I have nightmares about that lieing, thieving, SOB and his wife. Where in God’s name was the media in all this. It is not hard to find out about this man. There are plenty of stories and articles on the internet. Even when something was revealed about this idiot, it was not reported. I blame the 4th estate for this.
Where were they? Where are the patriots in this country. They sure aren’t on television.
Obama gives me the creeps. He has made me question our elected officials. What the hell are they thinking. “He is such a leader.” Bullsh*t. He has done nothing, led nothing, established nothing of importance or relevance to this country. What are they thinking. Are our elected officials as shallow as Obama? They must be to do this to the people they represent.
I am sick to my stomach and wish I had the money to leave the country. Someone has taken over the America I grew up in.
fly, a few days ago you wrote about seeing his team cheating in Iowa caucuses.
I was Edwards supporter and remember very powerful diary written by Fieldof dreams about him cheating in Iowa.
Is it possible for you to do a diary about your experiences at Iowa caucus here in more detail? This is a very important topic that has not been covered enough. This might be good team to revisit it because there is anti-Obama momentum finally starting, as people are waking up to how he’s been pushed down our throat – and still is.
It will come out at some time – maybe by Repubs. They could say he stole the election. I’d rather it come out in time for Hillary, not McCain. Though I can’t see voting for Obama, I don’t see McCain as a better alternative.
Let’s nominate Hillary.
Obama’s coronation ceremony is set for May 20th. He’ll be crowning himself “King of Hope and Change” and “Humanity’s Savior, Messiah and next President of these 57 United States” Florida and Michigan did not receive invitations to the event nor did Rural America, Small Town America, Blue Collar America, Typical White People, Americans without College Degrees, Low Income Americans …
The Main Stream Media will be in attendance with Keith O. and Chris M. leading the crowd in the coronation chant “Long Live the King!”
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Obama has two SD who should be examined.
1) Zogby of Zogby Polls. He and his brother who run it are Arabs. Obama or Zogby have not let the public know of their connection.
2) Joe Andrews former attorney of DiBold voting machines. These are very hackable. Stuff in Indiana was a tad suspicious in that one county at least.
Obama has waged the dirtiest, and filthiest cmapaign I have ever seen in my liftime, and this is my 10th Presidential election.
As to “wins” Obama claims – I would like to see some recounts, and some penalties applied to him, for each complaint on bullying, vote stealing, and lies by his bused in people.
Further, Obama shoud be prosecuted for ALL the state laws he violated during the campaign. Frankly I am sick unto death of hearing these behaviors referred to as campaign tactics. You break the law – its called a crime not a tactic!
Barack Obama can take credit for some of the nastiest, dirtiest, and most deceitful politicking that I have ever seen a fellow Democrat direct at another Democrat. That IS Barack Obama’s fault! I won’t feel guilty voting against him, and I don’t care what you think about it.
THATS BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!
IT IS ABOUT ME…
its about me and my family, and personally i could give a S*it about you, or obamas-
‘doin just fine’ friends.
EVERYONE has a stake in this election, EVERYONE.
me i want food, gas, health care, A home, a decent job and my guns, and my bitterness.
some want a lifetime ride in congress, where they been living off us way too long, some want to change the whole color scheme at the the ‘white’ house, and make it the ‘wright’ house…
some dream of anarchy for anarchy’s sake…
tell you what, some people out there have forgotten just exactly who works for who!!!
IT AINT THE GOOD OF THE PARTY, ITS THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE….
YOU LOSE…
Get the hell away from here! You are one of the 400 that Snobami talk about blogging.
WE WILL NEVER SUPPORT YOU SNOBAMI!
Be realistic Emily. She has no choice. Don’t do that to your mind. Instead focus on the endgame and YOU HAVE THE POWER. You don’t have to vote for him. It’s your vote and nobody but you can control that. Not even Hillary. She’s a Democrat with a Senate job. If she doesn’t endorse him then they will blame her for the ass kicking he’s going to get. (They’re going to try anyway, but this way they can’t say it out loud and convince everybody else this is true.) It also destroys any chance she might have in 2012 if she wants that. I even heard that they plan on not speaking to her in Congress. Imagine that? These people all need to lose their jobs and I intend to help with that.
Ignore the politics. Isn’t that why we’re all here? Because we’ve ignored the political games and know the truth: that Obama is unelectable. Apparently it’s our job to show the Democratic Party that WE ARE RIGHT!
Mimi,
I will be more than happy to help in making sure these so called Congressional Dems, lose their jobs, AND their law licenses where applicable.
If they cannot OBEY the law, they sure have no right to be writing laws.
You are right, Mimi. Hillary will have to support for him and campaign for him, if he is the nominee. She will probably be expected to bring her supporters along. I will have to tell her that I have the utmost respect for her, but do not approve of the way the DNC has handled this nominating season and I will vote for McCain…then vote for Hillary in 4 years.
What you are posting is nonsense. 2209 is the delegates needed for nomination and neither candidate has that. I hope you don’t mind waiting until August. And there is a million dollar bounty on that video as well.
You argument works only at the pro-Obama blogs but not in reality or here.
And thank you for furthering our resolve to defeat Obama.
Actually, now it is 2010 with MS and LA wins.
Sorry, 2210.
Well catseye I guess obama should have allowed the revote to see who was really voting form him in the original primary now should’nt he have? But disenfranchising obama doesn’t mind doing. And your assertion obama will have the popular vote including from the caucus states when this is over on June 3rd isn’t going to come to fruition. So lets see Hillary has the popular vote (the will of the people)Hillary has won all the large and important states, Hillary has won all of the SWING states and you claim she doesn’t have a strong argument to be the nominee? Your a kid. I will say this I highly doubt obama has the remaining SDs in his back pocket right now, or they would have come out to shut this down like the rest of them have. When Hillary kicks obamas ass in KT and has closed the gap in OR, MT, and SD, and when the 80% of the 4 million voters in PR (they believe in voting) is when the SDs will make up there mind. If they are so stupid to choose obama to be the nominee then when McCain wins the general they will have themselves to blame.
Baloney. If the DNC persists in their apparent determination to lose the GE by trying to foist Obama on us as the nominee, they will do harm to this party which it may never overcome. If their unfathomable determination to make Obama the candidate succeeds, I have no doubt that Hillary Clinton, being a more loyal Democrat than Obama will ever be, would support the lying, backstabbing, George W. Bush clone.
But as much as I admire her, I would at that point do what I always do when a candidate I am supporting drops out — make my own choice from those still in the race. Obama has never governed anything; he has been pushed up the ladder by his questionable and criminal associates without ever doing one thing that justifies his running for President. As distasteful as I find McCain, I will have no trouble voting for him over the divisive, dangerous, Bush-like Obama. I will never vote for four more years of government by an inept, uncaring, smirky little twit like Obama/Bush; and it has nothing to do with loyalty to Hillary Clinton.
And to see an Obama supporter accuse this blog of ripping into Obama, considering the vile threats and comments made routinely against Clinton at Obama supporting blogs, is the biggest show of hypocrisy since Obama called himself a uniter. I’ll say it again — telling the truth about Obama is not turning on him, ripping into him, or swiftboating him. It is just what it is — telling the truth — and that’s all that has been done at this site. To paraphrase Harry Truman, this site isn’t giving him hell, they’re just telling the truth and you Obama supporters think it’s hell.
It amazes me that you cannot figure out that statements like yours just harden the determination of many Hillary supporters to never vote for such an unqualified candidate as Obama. Oh, I forgot, you don’t need us — you’re going to register twenty-three gazillion new voters for Obama. Maybe you better get started on that now rather than telling us how to vote.
The tragedy is that Obama already has all the votes he’s ever gonna get.
How many screaming simpletons does it take to flush the Dems’ chances into the toilet bowl of history?
That’s easy. Count Obama’s primary votes.
“But as much as I admire her, I would at that point do what I always do when a candidate I am supporting drops out — make my own choice from those still in the race.”
I agree with everything you said.
And Obama supporters pay special attention to this:
“It amazes me that you cannot figure out that statements like yours just harden the determination of many Hillary supporters to never vote for such an unqualified candidate as Obama. Oh, I forgot, you don’t need us — you’re going to register twenty-three gazillion new voters for Obama. Maybe you better get started on that now rather than telling us how to vote.”
Marcy, Marcy, Marcy—I think you made of mess of that poster’s comments. Loved it!
Hit that one right out of the ballpark!
Kudos….great post.
PLEASE to all sane minds who enter this comment thread- major pod assault underway – best way to respond IS NOT TO RESPOND – IGNORE THEM as if they are not there – because they are not real anyway – as Fox reported, these are paid staffers, not the typical brainless pods. These are only heartless. How can you tell the difference between paid and unpaid obamapods? The paid ones can spell.
They have ONE common function in being here – to discourage, demoralize and apply insane leaps of logic to get us to support their false messiah.
So please all who enter this thread – ignore their comments, overlook their antics and give them NO response. They feed off us like pirhana -but can only do so if we acknowledge their presence. So, Just slide on past every slimy pod in this stream to the real democrats and kindred spirits who frequent this site.
Double digits in Oregon? Apparently, you haven’t gotten the memo. It’s a 5 point race. The only person who will be receiving double digits on Tuesday will be Hillary in Kentucky. You’re familiar with Kentucky? That’s one of the states Obama is too cowardly to campaign in. Do you really think America wants a President who has NO backbone and NO courage of conviction? Think again.
he needs all he needs to win sticking with him at the convention. Until then it’s just words.
VERY good! I’m emailing this out to my friends.
And even to those I don’t like much (ha ha).
I encourage ya’ll to email these videos that
are so great to everyone you know.
If I lived on that side of the country, I’d be out there protesting and booing his announcement. I hope there are wall to wall women there with protest signs and loud voices. This is the biggest farce I’ve ever heard of!
I love Flineo’s videos! Thanks for getting this up here!
As Riverdaughter says, “It isn’t over until the ballons drop in Denver!”
I hope Barry does proclaim that his “Mission is Accomplished” on Tuesday – it will make those of us who will not ever vote for him even more committed and probably piss off a few fence sitters in the process.
I think you’re totally right! This sort of silly tactic on his part only galvanizes his opposition more and adds to the numbers of people flocking to see a McGovern style defeat for Bambi!
I’ll remind some of Bambi’s supporters who come in here that in all the calls I’ve made recently for Clinton campaign I can’t tell you how many people I’ve talked to who wished they could take back their votes from previous Primaries. Meaning his previous support from his own base is eroding… I think the Bambi campaign knows this and hence that’s why they want to scream the loudest as if that means everyone will pay them more attention! The SD I spoke to thinks Obama is only hurting his case to the SD’s right now. As they said if he was truly ahead overall right now, then he’d just let it play out… That point has a lot of merit!
What did John Edwards accomplish?
I still can’t wrap my brain around it. An endorsement that came after John’s state voted netted Obie zero and got John a mailing list. Pretty smarmy smart for John. It was transparent to everyone what Obie was trying to accomplish. And yet. It didn’t erase the defeat and didn’t move numbers a lick in Kentucky … It was a huge meaningless maneuver and makes him look stupid. So will claiming anything short of 2010 …
It’s going to be hilarious! Everyone should decide what they’ll declare themselves as on that day. I’m going to be the Head Librarian at the Library of Congress!
Remember: Only 2209 delegates is legit!
Well 2209 doesn’t matter to obama, remember, Obama has told Wv and Kentucky to fuck off, so remove those delegate counts as well from the totals!
Since Obama figures he can win a GE with the likes of Idaho and all his other deep Red states!
Yeah, The Larry Craig Vote.
That might work. Anybody know if there was anything to the charge that Obama pranced through his misspent youth at Columbia wearing short-shorts and a Puka bead necklace?
“Anybody know if there was anything to the charge that Obama pranced through his misspent youth at Columbia wearing short-shorts and a Puka bead necklace?”
Mr. Natural,
Please don’t tease me. I’m crazed to find out about his mysterious time in Columbia. I can’t believe that nobody has the goods. Is this true or is it snark? I’ll take any crumbs I can find at this point.
He’s sure telling a lot of states to fuck off … uh, Florida, Michigan, West Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania ….. how’s he gonna win this thing ???? oh, right, the other seven make believe states ….
ahhhshucks..i will delcare myself a winner that day too…
Fly for president!!…i can see it now..all the lights and attention..wow..i could be president..i have a hell of alot more experience than Obama does!!
oh and we can claim Larry as president too..he surely have more experience than Obama does..and Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame..hell the list can go on and on..lets claim everyone president..on that day..
what a fucking farse this has all become and i blame sparky and the DNC so called leadership..of which there has been nothing but propaganda and shoving a novice crook down our throats..well i for one will not tolerate it!
fly
Got my Vote fly.
It is 2210 because of the wins in LA and MS.
Dead on.
Now imagine this leading the country, same as Bush.
And we are at war, new threats and alliances emerge every day, and it seems Obama’s camp doesnt want to acknowledge the reality of world affiars, the competition, the violence.
They cheat because they can’t win, what happens when they can’t bully, the way they do here, in America? They end up in internecine wars, unable to resolve the issues, the same situations that have doomed legions of cheaters before them.
Who ever thought we’d be this close to an election with someone who knows LESS THAN BUSH as the Democratic nominee? They had to be seriously LOOKING for someone downwind of Bush in National Intelligence experience, and yet … they found him. Amazing.
beebop,
It boggles the mind. Downwind of Bush! You can’t make this shit up!
Super Delegates are never secured until the convention and that is at the end of August and till then, there is no Primary winner!
Obama can say anything he wants too, but it isn’t over until August 31 and till then more and more Obama dirt will arise and even buying his SD support will not matter then!
And I will add the Obama trolls have tried to bury Hillary’s candidacy but won’t succeed.
I guess they are stupid and can’t take the hint they cannot manipulate Obama to the nomination. See you trolls in August.
Exactly. I told a friend this am that I don’t care what he says. It ‘aint over until he has the numbers. Guess what? He doesn’t have the numbers. It ‘aint over until the SD’s vote on the convention floor. It’s as simple as that.
This asshole has been trying to call this primary since February. It’s pretty pathetic. Team Obama doesn’t have enough faith in their candidate to let the process complete itself. That very fact alone proves Obama’s weaknesses and deficiencies. IMO, that’s why Hillary’s numbers keep rising.
Never give up. Ever.
“This asshole has been trying to call this primary since February.”
And that’s when my horse left the barn.
The DP Leadership and the SDs need to really appreciate this. My position against Obam dates way back and Hillary staying in the race had NOTHING to do with it.
By January I said no way.
barry copied everything Hillary said in the debates now he’s copying Bush declaring Mission Accomplished when it isn’t .He has never had an original thought in his life and he’s a spoiled sport to boot. He is everything I taught my Sons not to be..They respect women and play by the rules and are highly educated and successful men…Too bad barry’s mother was busy chasing her “dreams” she should have done a better job with him before she stuck us with him….and his manners …uuuggg . He needs some lessons there too.
Even he he declares victory, he is still only the Presumptive Nominee. No one is the nominee until the Convention and the voting!
Presumptive only by the idiot trolls and jocksiffers as Larry calls them in the MSM.
We shall declare Hillary the “Presumptive Nominee” when the trolls do then! We have every right to unless there is a double standard of some kind.
Hey Susan! Maybe we should?
Sorry I meant “jocksniffers.”
“you claim she doesn’t have a strong argument to be the nominee?”
I never said that. I’m also sure she would have won if Mark Penn had not failed her so badly.
I’m saying that she will not have the popular vote. The numbers that are being claimed exclude all the caucus votes and awards Obama zero votes in Michigan.
If you count all the votes…. all of them… Obama wins. Not because Obama is better… but because Mark Penn had no plan after Super Tuesday.
Hillary could have stopped Obama from winning 11 in a row had their been a plan. At the very least she could have kept him from winning by 20-40 point margins in those state. Mark Penn lost the election for Hillary. He lost it for you. All I’m saying is aim your anger at the person who deserves it.
Hope is a good thing. If you still feel hope for hillary… then please… send her some money. She is staying in for you. Help her out.
.If Obama declares victory then we will declare victory for Hillary since neither can actually win until August. If this is too much logic for you I apologize.
If you count all the votes…. all of them… Obama wins
No if you count all the votes are counted Senator Clinton wins. check your facts.
Mark Penn ain’t running for shit, much less POTUS. Yeah he blew it, but he also had help:
the msm, the Kennedy, Kerry gang-bang, the race card, the Oprah/Caroline/Maria Shriver catfest, the Dean scream in the background, Donna ‘I can’t delete the email without giving a shitty repsonse’ Brazile, all the debates minus 1…. the list goes on.
I’m angry at Obama. He’s the collar and the target of my anger. Mark Penn, I could care less.
If it makes you feel better I’ll do a voodoo ritual so he won’t get another job. How’s that????
Don’t forget the “Breck Girl” coming out for Obama the day after her big win. Edwards had the nerve to say that every state voted! What the hell is this thug talking about? KY, OR, MT, and SD did not vote yet and FL/MI has not been resolved.
there is no way to count some of the caucus’s for popular vote because some of the states took no popular vote tallies!
wake the hell up..don’t argue something you don’t understand…numerous states did not count the people for the caucus’s!
fly
B.O. isn’t a leftist at all. He has kissed the asses of whomever he needed to in order to elevate himself in politics.
You look on his church’s website and you find the church’s credo which says that you must eschew middle class and it’s trappings. This is Marxist, yes, but where does B.O. and the minister live? In big mansions in white neighborhoods. He’s another Stalinist. One standard for the masses and another for the leaders. And that’s just one thing that is so scary about him.
“church’s credo which says that you must eschew middle class and it’s trappings.”
And those parishioners let them get away with that???
Unreal!
As embarrassing as it is for me to admit this, I guess it wasn’t hard for Obama to fool the AA community. That’s about as pathetic as it gets.
“Believe it or not … this race IS ABOUT ME .. it’s about ALL OF US … and it’s NOT about the democratic party or getting a democrat in the White House. It’s about US AMERICANS. ALL of us – Dems, Republicans, Libertarians, Constitution Partiers, Independents … it most definately IS about US and what is best for US. It shouldn’t have to do with party loyalty. If it did – I’d be pulling the Republican lever because I’m a registered Republican.
You have forgotten what this is all about – WE THE PEOPLE. And WE want a non-sexist non-racist – which leaves Obama out.”
Ah, united we stand divided we fall.
“No man is an island, entire of itself;. every man is a piece of the continent, a. part of the main.”
It’s about humanity as a whole. Hillary and Obama agree on 95% of the issues. They are democrats.
We are a party of one made of many.
Save the nicey nice drivel for idiots. We are on to you.
Too late to “make nice”. You reap what you sow. How’s that working for you?
Actions have consequences.
Clap Clap Clap Clap
We still aren’t voting for him.
But a nice new technique. Obvious. A little strained. On a scale of 10, I’m voting 6.85.
To all Obama trolls, hope you are learning something by being here. Psy-ops is two-way street you know.
Here’s a dead on quote just for you:
A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject ”
Winston Churchill…
Just curious, how many bloggers here have been convinced to support Barry by his paid trolls?
On the other hand, how many bloggers here have become firmer intrenched into their distain for Obama and his manipulating tactics the phoney race baiting, sexist, lying Marxist asshole has used continually during this campaign?
They’ve had no effect on me. Wright and Ayers were complete deal breakers for me. Obama and his professional supporters (Huffington, Kos, etc.) have hardened my resolve.
I actually like most of Obama’s trolls. They are well meaning but over-zealous. The few sexist ones can burn in Hell, but they are a small subgroup.
The obamabots convince me daily that my first impression of Obama was correct — and that I will NEVER vote for him.
It should be a warning to everyone — in general the people who support Hillary Clinton made a very careful choice after much deliberation. These aren’t the sort of people who will suddenly forget all the insults and lies by the Obama-machine.
me Mel!!..my resolve gets greater by the day!!
wow these idiots are doing a great job for their messiah…not
fly
I have discovered that there is no amount of pond scum to change my mind.
I have never been challenged when I call BO immoral from his profiting of the misery of others in the 313. Not one troll, BO or otherwise.
Not on the energy bill not on his healthcare plan not on any of his bullshit.
So Mel no I made up my mind if not Senator Clinton then McCain else … well I will start stocking up on foodstuffs and ammo and start looking at property in Alaska or BC.
As sure as I am a human, my NYC sense of self preservation, is telling me BO is going to get a lot of people killed from his indifference,ignorance, lack of leadership skills and experience.
So yea for me it is about lives on the line and who is the qualified to up hold the Constitution of the United States.
While the NIE has stated Iran does not have the bomb yet, we will have a dud at 1600 who has NO respect for “middle classness”. He has actively blown off 10 states in the union, whats is 40 more?
Once again I have a beef with the management. We will not accept second string trolls.
The Old Media will never pick up on this fact because it goes against their narrative that Hillary is toast. They hope and pray that this narrative will become a self fulfilling prophecy and the voters in the remaining primaries will go for Obama.
You are right, unless God directs them otherwise, god having recently decided to buy into something called “media development.”
Tip from his stockbroker…
there are some Obama trolls on this board. Are they really obama supporters? If they are… they need to stop attacking hillary supporters. There is no need for all of this.
Anger is a cover to pain and the fear of pain to come.
Hillary supporters are hurt and affraid. Why torment and mock them? What crap.
Stop it.
They are working through the process. Some will follow Hillary’s lead where ever she takes them… others will be filled with rage if they don’t get what they want and never forgive. That comes from pain.
Love is always stronger than hate.
I love the Hillary supporters even if they don’t support Obama. They have passion and they care. We might not agree on the person… but we agree on basic liberal philosophy.
I wish them love and light.
You really think being nice all of a sudden matters to us? Are you really this stupid?
I am offended at Obama supporters pandering. He will not be getting my vote. So please stop. He and his supporters have done more harm than good in this election cycle. I ask that you take your love is always stronger than hate mantra to Rev. Wright, M.O. and B.O. Maybe you can save their souls.
I wish you some cognitive thinking skills.
Talk to me about “love” when YOUR candidate denounces the “Bros not Hos” t-shirts that his supporters are selling all over the country.
Until then, I wish you nothing but a strong dose of reality.
You are shilling for a weak and deceptive candidate. Good luck with that.
We’re never voting for your candidate …. but nice speech.
For the record, I don’t “hate” him. I don’t think a lot of us do. I’m not a fan of “Chicago” politics and I certainly don’t want them in Washington. I have been angered by his sexism, but I channel my anger. I have been absolutely disgusted by his seeing racism every where but in his own campaign, but I channel that disgust. I think that America deserves the best possible candidate. Obama is not it. Hillary deserves our votes because she is qualified. She is the best candidate, not just by comparison, BEST. That is why we support her and if she is not the candidate, we look at number two and number two is John McCain.
I actually feel very sorry for Obama. When this is over, he is going to be destroyed. He had more skeletons in his closet than he wanted to admit and all of them are being vetted. He will be lucky to get reelected in Illinois when he faces that campaign. He’s a young man. To face so much more of your life with such a crushing blow will be a tough path. He has two daughters who are going to have long lives of lots of questions to answer about their father’s huge ego when it comes to why he put himself before the Democratic party. It won’t be easy being them.
O.K. you heard your messiah –
But get this Hillary supports are NOT hurt and afraid.
We know that the choice is either — CLINTON or McCain.
Your guy will be a footnote in history — also he will be in JAIL. He is that crooked — he will be in jail with the rest of the DIRTY Chicago politicians.
So stuff a sock in it — and go away.
Hillary supporters are hurt and afraid.
I am neither hurt or afraid, even as walk through BO shadow of death.
Love is always stronger than hate.
Thanks for reminding me why I reject every thing BO and Wright spews on the pews.
but we agree on basic liberal philosophy.
Speak for your “God damn KKK/white guilt self.
go through yourself under a bus before BO does for you. Don’t think he will?
catseye…in my calmist, firmist, most dedicated and unwavering and clearly stated commitment to freedom and fighting the attempted coup of your neofacist cult of personnality leader obamalamadingdong I resolutely urge you to bite my anti imperialistic crank!
Obama has over a million and a half volunteers. Those volunteers send Obama money. %5-$50 a month.
Obama does not pay people to blog. No more than hillary pays her supporters. the paid trolls story is a myth. The Obama campaign hardly even gives out signs for people to put in their yards. It runs a very tight ship with money. No waste.
with hillary,
“There was financial mismanagement bordering on fraud. A candidate who raised more than a quarter of a billion dollars over the years had to pump in millions more of her own money to stave off bankruptcy.”
Hillary was so badly served by her people. It’s almost a crime.
No what is a crime is for people like you to elect a president on faith. Obama is not running for preacher-in-chief. If this is too logical for you I apologize.
They tithe?
How the hell do YOU know what Obama does or doesn’t do?
Yep. He runs a “tight ship”…is that what they call money laundering now days? The people of Illinois will tell you all about Obama and his money “issues”. Signs to put in people’s yards? Perhaps that’s because his priorities are spending his cash STAGING his events. You people really think we’re stupid. Big mistake.
My advice is that you slither away before us “angry, bitter, fearful” Hillary supporters take away your ability to collect a paycheck by actually being an effective troll. One would think that Team Obama would school his minions better than this.
ARE you really that stupid to believe this crap.
Obama’s bundlers list DEAD people as contributors.
It will be real interesting to comb through the donations list and nail Obama with that crime.
HEY — did someone call for a better class of trolls? Well I second the request.
NEXT!!!!!!!!!
Your comments are disingenuous. Hillary had to counter the Obama campaign’s overflowing coffers. Of course, she had to spend her own money when she couldn’t keep up with the obscene amount of money Barack was spending on his campaign. Too bad for him that he still couldn’t win in states in which he outspent her by up to 5 times!
Barack had some heavy duty financers. It would be nice to see some “transparency” on this from the faux “transparency in government” candidate.
I don’t blame Hillary for using her own money to try to keep things in play. I am just happy that she had the funds to do this.
So far, the Obama campaign has been unable to push Hillary out of the campaign by their money, their MSM supporters, or his collaborators in the DNC.
The veil is off. With all of the advantages that he has had in this competition, Barack is a weak candidate both in the Democratic nominating race, and the subsequent general election.
hey catseye..bullshit!!
take this to the bank with your Obama paycheck..bullshit!!
they come here dumber by the day..guess that paycheck is pretty small..but when you need it you need it right???????
please save your bullshit..most of us have been dealing with the paid bush shills since 2000 and the MO is the same..dumber than dirt idiots get hired to do this shit and then they have a minder..just like you..to make pretty..
go stuff your anger bullshit..
i call it guardian angels..we are the guardian angels of this once great nation of ours..and we wilk protect her from evil lying =sacks of crap like you , and your trolls and Obama..and the DNC/..its our job..after all..there is a document telling us to do exactly that…
We the people..and that dear troll catseye is exactly what we intend to do!
now scoot with your cats and your eyes..
we don’t need either here..and i will tell you it is assholes like you that piss me off more then the dumb bunnies!!
fly
Obama outspent her 4 to 1 in some states and 3 to 1 in other states…..and still lost.
Tight ship?
Hardly.
He’s wasted millions on bad ads and flooded the airways.
And still lost.
It isn’t a majority of pledged delegates. It is a plurality of total delegates.
Good Lord ..Obamabots talk about the rulz but never bother to read them.
The plurality of the total number of delegates will depend on how the challenge of MI and FL go. If those pledged delegates are seated, then they get added to the total. The plurality is then determined from there.
So we cannot ascertain what the plurality of total delegates are until after the meeting and subsequent floor challenge at the convention. Those are the rulz.
Senator Oboma is going to prance and jump up and down. However, if even if the SD’s claim their support now to give Obmama a plurality..doesn’t matter. SD’s ar not bound and their votes only count once official count at the convention. Those are the rulz.
So unless either Obama or Clinton drop out of the race..there is no nominee until the convention.
Remember the law firm Obama worked at, where he (snicker) claims to of done only 6 hours work for Rezko at, Davis Miner Barnhill?
Know who hired Obama there, it was Miner who did!
Guess who was a graduate in the same law class in 1967 as Miner? Hmmmm give up?
It was Bernadine Dohrn! Imagine that, such incredible coincidences that boggle the mind!
Recall the Woods Fund that Obambi and Ayers sat together on? Would it suprise anyone that it contributed hundreds of thousands to Dohrn’s activities at Northwestern U? A little down-payments by Obama?
There are so many crimes and connections — it will take several books to follow all the trails which lead to Obama.
I remember in school we studied the “Tea Pot Dome scandle” — well that was child’s play, compared to Politics — Chicago style.
Thank you for all the digging you do Mel — your skill at finding the details impresses me and I’m a darned good researcher myself!!
Great Mel! I hope you unearth the mysterious Columbia years. That intrigues me to no end!! Wish I had your skills.
Heal.
Take care.
It did not work. We will continue to fight Obama and most of us will never vote for him even with Hillary as VP. So give it up.
Heal this.
Now they’ve sent in the 3rd string metaphysical team. These dopes know as much about love, light and healing as their false messiah knows about true hope and transformative change. Nada.
Please, real noquarter fans. Just IGNORE them. It is the ONLY antidote to their toxic waste. Remove attention from them altogether. Leave them alone WITHOUT REPLY. Don’t let them feed off the energy of this site. They are like vampires – only with viral infected fangs. Let them alone, ignored and they will go away.
Remember how informative and inspiring this site is without them? So, let’s just let them go.
Heel.
Barky – Barky – Barky — woof woof.
are you practicing for Heil with your Heal shit??????
sure sounds like it to me..i will never heal and i will never Heil..especially for the likes of you or your ilk!
now go away.
you disgust me!
fly
F*ck it’s Donna….
This fake nice crap is making me more determined than ever to make sure Obama never sees the White House. Great job trolls, your master will be very pleased.
Actually this new nice pandering is making me right down nauseous. Hold on, let me grab the trashcan real quick here!
Maybe the company that makes Pepto-Bismol is backing Obama as a way to increase sales?
I think she/he is really really funny. But that’s just me!
I think was of the most telling aspects of the failure of Obama’s campaign is his throwing in the towel on Kentucky.
Don’t forget West Virginia.
Good luck claiming victory when you’ve had your ass handed to you TWICE…
Check this video out.
This guy is usually just trying to be funny, but seems to be getting mad about Obama pulling a “Coup D’etat”
(strong language)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-rPdQ41i_wI
If you intend to be taken seriously between now and Nov. you’re going to have to distinguish between ‘the good, the bad and the ugly.’
Unfortunately, this tape was ‘the ugly’ and very much more.
I’m a Hillary supporter but this video really makes the Obama campaign’s case for them. I don’t think any of us want that. There are better examples and videos floating around.
Some of the Obama trolls’ comments remind me of Benny Hinn. HEAL! LET THE BODY HITS THE FLOOR! LOL!
I suppose Obama will hang a banner saying “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”. The only thing Obama has accomplished is to divide the democratic party. Dividing the democratic party was the first item of business at the beginning of his campaign. MR Wright was Obama’s accomplice in dividing the party. Socialist tactics.
I’ve been following this blog for a couple of days now. I for one agree with the majority that there is no way I’m voting for Obama. Yuo cna call me a racist or what every but the truth of the matter is I just don’t trust Obama. There is still a lot that we don’t know about this person’s character and frankly that concerns me, but what really concerns me more is the fact that he has not done anything with his time in politics. The only real asset he has is his ability to speak. Of course I expect a little more out of my president than the ability to make a good speech.
I for one cna’t vote for Mccain either. If Obama is the nominee then I choose to cast my vote for the libertain candidate. With the votes going there then the blame goes to them for his loss in the GE. Hopefully it won’t come to this and the DNC will wake up, but putting Obama in the Whitehouse will kill this country. I would rather endure 4 more years of a republican.
Obama has been openly promoted by TWO LIBERTARIAN bloggers. FYI… Huffington and Markos.
Thanks for your input!
NARAL lit the fire on a growing movement against Obama.
The ‘won’t vote for Obama’ movement was just getting started and needed a catalyst like this to coalesce.
More websites have popped up in addition to petitions pledging not to vote for Obama.
The DNC and Obama have treated Hillary Clinton with amazing disrespect. Women have had it. And, their fathers, husbands, and sons agree.
Hell hath no fury like that of a woman scorned.
There won’t be any backing off.
Hillary is ahead in the popular vote and in the electoral votes.
The delegates are based on a corrupt caucus system and are further corrupted by Obama’s thugs going in and pushing, blocking, throwing out, and threatening voters.
TX is a prime example of some of this mayhem. Hillary won the legitimate Texas primary, but “somehow” lost the delegates. Delegates are useless, corrupt, and meaningless.
If Hillary is denied the nomination we would rather put up with 4 years of McCain, who will have his hands tied by a Democratic Congress, than put up with a corrupt, lying, cult leader who has no experience whatsoever.
And, believe me, WE MEAN IT.
WE certainly do mean it. Thanks for the post. Spot on.
absolutely..even my non political son watched C Mathews and called me very upset this week..i can’t tell you what he called him!
fly
yep, NARAL got me hyped. It served to point out that all the other endorsements were equally meritless and had to be his usual pay to play.
They pay he plays as always.
Increasing Obama troll presence = increasing fear in Obama camp.
Go ahead, Obama, be arrogant and declare mission accomplished before you have the necessary votes to actually win. More proof that Obama hates democracy.
I really hope that Obama makes that “victory” speech — it will be used against him.
And the comedians are going to have a field day — plus the cartoonists!
Obama the joker in the deck!
Hillary is addressing herself for president in a past tense; talking more against McCain/Bush; and letting things like NARAL’s endorsement of Obama just slip by — a major issue with women, rights, and that doesn’t get a blip on the radar.
This is sounding so rehearsed, and she looks to be grabbing votes not so much to win, to take later in local/state elections (turning Red to Blue stragedy).
That fighting spirit is also being replaced with “unity” talk, even.
If she’s going to pull out, pull out, don’t drag everyone else down to the wire. Then get all perky about “unity”, and gladhanding for Obama’s “victory”. She knows a good size of her voters are sick of Obama and will bail, so she might be holding out so to keep the donations going for as long as possible. At this stage it’ll be going to the DNC anyway.
Presidential candidates don’t talk in past tense about their chances, unless they are finished. Very disappointed, because going on like a long last lap, is much like milking a customer of their last coin. Then, to add insult to injury, a quick out-of-nowhere, “let’s help Obama out now!” speech when she puts on the “For Party” hat.
Rather be viewing pictures of dead Chinese children after the earthquake. At least I haven’t lost my compassion to care on what really matters — not funding 400 million elections, while millions go without and die so folks can chaw about candidates like it’s some tabloid run sports event.
Have we forgotten about humanity?
Concede for party. Concede for “unity”. Concede for deals. It’s stinks more than the corpses in Burma and China now.
Cowards.
And yes, I’m now pissed! Hate being taken for a ride by a candidate. >:(
ChrisXP there are two Hillary’s just like there are two Obama’s. The appearance of unity coming from her is one Hillary. Us bloggers and activists fighting for her do what she can not do making us the other Hillary. So keep doing what you are doing and fight for her with all your abilities. And I see you have many. I have to remind myself on occasion she is a politician and a party member when I see pronouncements that trouble me from her.
I don’t think your assessment is correct but if it was I would vote for McCain. They have not taken that right away from us.
Well anyway I am full steam ahead. Go Hillary!
Hillary said TODAY she’s going all the way to Denver. Get used to it.
Its the Obama man who outspent her 2, 3, 4 and 5 to 1. He’s the quarter of a billion campaign loser who thought he had in the bag. If you spend $250 million in the PRIMARY and have nothing left in the general, you lose. Obama is going to lose the primary, regardless of you Obamanuts sending money.
To correct you, he’s backed by bundlers and corporate guys, that little guy stuff is a myth. To top it off even the college kids are waking up to the false messiah. Hillary won that group in West Virginia.
How are YOU going to feel Obama-nut when the rest of the world has caught on an you still have your silly Obama artifacts. Detox camp for you. Maybe you can write a book as to when YOU FINALLY SAW THE LIGHT. Better late than never.
I am waiting for Fitzgerald to indict Obama, come pick him up and put him in jail with Rezko.
You never know who the crook is though. Maybe that is why Obama is running for President so he can pardon all his Chicago cronies. Politics is a rough game. It certainly has been rougher this season. It has also involved the elected officials in Washington. I can find no other reason for them to support such a loser and liar. It is all a mystery as to who is the bigger crook.
Obama is paying his staff. If you boys out there are not getting paid, poor you. You might want to check with your friends in the office.
Obama has paid off every delegate to get their vote. I am sure this is why he couldn’t buy signs. Oh well!!!
I CAN NOT BELIEVE YOU PEOPLE ARE WASTING TIME ARGUING WITH TROLLS. PLEASE BLOW THE FOOLS OFF AND CALL OREGON FOR AN HOUR. I PROMISE YOU THE IDIOT TROLLS WILL BE WAITING TO BE FED UPON YOUR RETURN.
PLEASE BE EFFECTIVE TODAY
The trolls have to be handled as well. We can chew gum and walk.
What more would Hillary have to do convince the delegates/DNC/media save for having a sex change?
That’s not going to happen.
Its ironic that Hillary, a woman, has proven to be the real fighter, and Obama the man, has turned into that limp wrist sissy who runs off the field screaming. No offense to limp wrist sissies. You go on with your bad selves, but this Messiah can’t even stomach talking to white people.
Even if you’re gonna get your ass kicked, you st
oops, finishing up:
Obama still could gain RESPECT by showing up, instead he’s losing respect by the hour with his out-and-out cowardice. Its not arrogance, its being a coward pure and simple.
A true, authentic leader does what is difficult. So much for his leadership qualities.
This is a very powerful video.
Tuesday Obama will try to steal the nomination in much the same way that Bush stole the 2000 election. He will declare victory when there is none.
He sees victory slipping away and is clinging to hope out of desperation.
His superdelegate endorsements have slowed to a trickle, if even that.
He is behind in the popular vote if we still value democracy and this is still a country made up of 50 states.
He wants to claim victory before the DNC Rules Committee meets on the 31st and recognizes the voters of FL and MI.
The inequity of the delegate system is being questioned, particularly with the involvement of Obama’s caucus thugs.
Most people are starting to see Obama can’t win the electoral votes, meaning he can’t win in November.
Most people are starting to see that Hillary won the big states, which are needed to win in November.
Most people are starting to see that Hillary has real plans for the economy, healthcare, and more. Not copies.
He will not have reached the 2209 delegates needed to declare victory or even the arbitrary figure of 2025 delegates.
He has pulled a lot of Chicago-style tricks during this primary, but I don’t think this one will work.
In the end good old-fashioned hard work, accomplishments, experience, knowledge, worldliness, maturity, good judgement, and the love of this country will prevail.
Come on, Hillary. We need you, now.
And unless Hillary concedes he is blowing smoke. And she won’t concede.
“They’ve tried to bury her more times than a cat’s got lives,” [Bill] Clinton said.
All Obama will do is further outrage Hillary supporters and it is our outrage and determination that fuels Hillary’s resolve.
So Obama be an idiot and go for it. Does he think we’ve forgotten about 2209?
This new kind of infiltrated-fake-sincerity troll pissed me off more than even more. I take it as an insult to my intelligence that they expect me to fall for meth-candy.
*more than ever.
Obama will pronounce himself the winner and have the insiders backing him on Tuesday. However, Hillary will not concede, obviously. The caucus states are withholding the information regarding turn-out in some cases to thwart the popular vote being counted.
And they wonder why there is a growing momentum against him?
Chicago dirty tactics are being touted as “smart” politics. *whew*
What a trip.
Let the fool crown himself. He’ll end up being the court jester!
Am I the only one who noticed this on thecommonills.blogspot.com?
If Obama declares himself the nominee May 20 and the DNC doesn’t call him on
it, the Federal (FEC) regulations kick in, the U.S. Treasury will give him a check
for $74.69 million dollars and he will have to start the general election campaigning.
Or Donna and Howard will have to bite the bullet, call him on it and the press will
make him a laughing stock.
This is very interesting — wonky stuff!!
Isn’t one of the disagreements McCain has with Obama is that Obama said that he would skip the Government money and privately fund his run for the White House. (And I do think the only thing that Mrs Obama wants is to live in the white house — that’s why she’s been pushing hubby — that mansion in Chicago isn’t good enough for Mrs. “Give us more” Obama.
OR will Obama declare himself da winner — like the cocky crook that he is — and expect that everyone will fall in line — sort of copying GWB — except it was Bushie’s cousin who declared GWB da winner — BEFORE all the votes were counted.
Why are Hillary supporters always on the back foot?
Now that we know Obama will declare victory on Tuesday, why not conduct a pre-emtive strike. Lets all declare Hillary Clinton the presumptive nominee right now, after all she is leading the popular vote and Barry can’t overtake her. Hell, Im gonna post this on 10 blogs tonight.
“Hillary Clinton is our presumptive nominee”!
So there.
frankly,
i love seeing the bots here, its a sort of ‘bellweather’…
they are in a frenzy, why?
where is the confidence?
they should all be over at the winners den, toasting their victory, making their plans, dividing their new kingdom.
you know, they should be getting their shiny new sheriff badges.
instead of throwing back a couple of cold ones, they are here…
IF YOU WERE AN OBAMA DISCIPLE, AND YOU WERE TOLD YOU WERE RECIEVING THE CROWN ON TUESDAY, WHY WOULD YOU BE HERE ARGUEING WITH LITTLE OLD US?
“Obama To Declare Fake Victory to Cover Up His Real Kentucky Defeat.”
Have I got that about right?
No Quarter is a loser website. For frustrated losers to bark their meaningless loser banter.
Get a clue, losers. McCain ‘08!!!
Some people are desperate to identify what vexes them so they frame it in ways they can wholly accept even if not consciously choosing to entirely understand. The idea of thoroughly analyzing the object of their wrath, let alone admitting their own foibles and vulnerabilities is anathema, tantamount to weakness. After all, their analyses might result in exoneration. And that would leave these people feeling as though they lacked purpose. We smear, we’re here, so get used to it.
It’s always been a tactic for a bully to assume the characteristics (however unbelievably) of the bullied. In this past election year rather than dwell for too long in the area of intellectual exchange and civil debate, the bully inherent in the American persona could stand it no more, shoved all the pantywaists aside and assumed its dominance over the scene by accusing the remaining participants of things any normal person would find repugnant. Elitists. Appeasers. The real problem is that the bullies are our brothers, our sisters, our selves. They’re no longer just the usual suspects.
Again, Republican strategists have a cynical but canny understanding of American nature, how susceptible it is, how easily (if one is patient) a subliminal suggestion can be planted, take root and then, when the time is right, be brought to unquestioning kinesis at the utterance of a choice word or piquant phrase. Evil, brilliant and effective, it has recently been co-opted by the traditional victims of this very maneuver except with a result that brings a smile to every intelligent right wing designer’s oily lips.
Being a bully means never having to say you’re sorry.
They simply can’t. It ain’t in ‘em. But in anyone else’s hands, bullying is toxic and the user can’t handle the concentrated amount as it seeps through the skin and into the bloodstream, eventually breaking down the ersatz bully’s intention and causing chaos under their roof.
It would be disingenuous to say after so much vitriol “Come on now, all’s fair in love and war. Let’s be friends!”. But would it be sensible to scuttle years of righteous anger at the politics of division and the opportunity to right the fatal wrongs of the Bush Dark Age? Could it be that in some way the self abasing sniping between the Obama and the Clinton camps in fact plays perfectly into the soulless game plan of the bullies and their unrivaled genius for manipulating the behavior of the average American? Have years of frustration given way to the same desperate need to frame what vexes us in ways that we can accept but not dare to fully understand? Are we…them?
Hillary Clinton is presumptive nominee of Democratic Party ,
I’ve seen other sites where it was discussed that Obama’s campaign won’t release his birth certficate. One of the things being discussed on those sites was the fact that Hawaii became a state (from a territory) in 1959 close to the time Obama gives as his birth date which is 1961. Another point discussed was that he may an additional middle name. And it was also discussed was whether there is a marriage certificate for his parents. They couldn’t understand why the secrecy.
Defeating trolls:
Yes ignoring them is fun, but those new to the site really don’t read that and read every post. It causes them to be sad and disheartened.
So, one key way is to mimic them once they post, write as their name and say how sorry you are that you were a troll and move towards loving Hillary.
Its instant karma and gets them freaked out. So those 400 fake trolls will never hurt me! Try it on the next troll and you’ll love yourself even more. Heck, use their name when you reply to their comment with a quote from Hillary or something positive from Hillary. It’ll really surprise new readers and neutralise the trolls. They then become useless against the newbies and won’t be moulded into depression…
When Hillary wins Kentucky by double digits, it will be clear that Hillary has a plurality of the popular vote.
Is this true? Axelrod’s playing the psychological Tokyo Rose warfare game is all. IIRC W did this too in 2000. So it’s not just silly. It could affect weak minds – and as everyone knows the DNC are today riddled with weak minds.
I heard that the Obamalongs might protest if Obamanot isn’t the chosen one.
HillGirl, I believe the remark was “there will be pitchforks”.
First time poster.
I am a 42 yr old white educated male. I live in a burb of Chicago. I am a lifelong DEM ( soon to be Ind.) I just found this site today. I wish I would have found it sooner. Anyone with a brain in their head would see this for what it is. This is Chicago style politics at its finest (worst). Chicago Machine ( That’s what this is )are the masters of bogus caucus results. They clog meetings. Bully people. They race bait. I actually feel sorry for some of the caucus states. Can you imagine some lil ole lady in Iowa being accosted by these Chicago thugs? “Who ya votin for lady”? “Uh I was gonna vote for Mrs. Clinton.” Someone who has never encountered this could very easily be bullied. You pretty much have to say ” Listen Pal I know what your doing and it isn’t gonna work”. Then they swear at you and leave you alone. This has been going on my entire life. Anyone with some free time google some of the past Chicago elections. Try Harold Washington, Eugene Sawyer, Jane Byrne, Both Daleys. 90% of Obamas contributions come in the bundle variety ( 200 or less ). Is it that? Or is it City contracts for campaign contributions? I would be willing to bet that 70 % of that 90% comes from the city of Chicago. Don’t worry though. We (Chicago) plan to make it back in spades. Ghost payroll , nepatism, Government contracts for cash ( google Chicago and pay to play .) are just a few of the ways they will get that money back. Heck it may just pay for the olympics if we get them in 2016. Oh man I could go on for hours. This election is brutal for me.I am an avid Clinton supporter. I liked Bill and I believe that Hillary would be able to turn our country around. On the other hand as an Illinois taxpayer I am tired of paying for all of this. I want to thank all Obama supporters for offering to take this off our hands. It’s tempting really it is. However for the good of our country, I need to decline at this time. We here in Illinois will just continue to suffer for all of you. Remember us in your prayers. We are so disgusted and hopeless. For me the fatal wound ( the spear through the side ) came when I found out the good Rev. Wright has started building his new home in MY SUBURB. Life sucks. Sorry for the long post but when you have a sympathetic ear you tend to talk it off.
We’re with you Disgusted. You aren’t the first person from Chicago I’ve heard from. Obama is Massachusetts’ Deval Patrick in more ways than one. And top it off with Chicago. Hey, are dead people still voting by absentee ballot there?