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Not now, not ever – A repudiation of Obama and the New Bolsheviks and an Interesting Possibility

When Obama first burst forth upon the political scene lo these many months ago, my gut reaction was: “he’s not ready”, now I have to add “and he never will be”. The fact that people don’t see his poisonous combination of arrogance and naiveté, intellectual ignorance and disinterest, his viciousness and contempt for others has been a consistent source of amazement for me. I can only explain it by referring to a religious/cult model. As I recently discussed in my journal on creationism, Obama on the one hand is curiously apathetic about any actual prescriptions for the body politic. His position on any particular subject is not even apparent until someone with substance (Hillary, for example) publishes her position, then, within a few days, Obama comes out with a copy of that proposal (with a few insignificant changes) and trumpets it as a breakthrough, ‘transformational’ event.


And let me pause here for a moment of personal outrage: You do not get to name yourself ‘transformational’, to do so is the absolute height of hubris, the kind of stuff that prompts Zeus to turn you into a smoking crater in the ground. Long after you are gone from the stage, if you have actually done anything worthy of the term, some unbiased observer may call you ‘transformational’, that’s the only way it happens, period.


Back to the subject: Obama as a cult figure is very interesting on a number of levels. First, his obvious proactive participation in the scheme, the cadenced, content-free, ‘revival’ speeches - all sound and fury signifying nothing. The constant self-reverent, self-referent, narcissistic, messianic comments. Originally, I thought this was some kind of self-mocking sardonic commentary - alas, I’ve come to see that Obama isn’t capable of that level of introspection (or any level of introspection for that matter). His is a true pathology, much like that of George W. Bush, remarkably similar in fact. Obama and GWB also have much in common with other historical tyrants: complete and adamantine belief in their ability to surmount any obstacle, appease any enemy, attain any objective without the slightest knowledge of the subject and in the absence of a plan of any kind. This is magical thinking of the worst sort and always, always ends in catastrophe for any who are unlucky enough to be in their wake.

While Obama as a cult figure is bad enough, the worse problem is his followers. Who are these legions of hollow-eyed zombies? Do they issue from great vats in the slums of strategic cities? Has a viral plague been released on to the voter rolls? Are they actually the remnants of human beings? Sadly, they are (or were) people just like us, tired, yearning, despondent, fervid, frustrated – but in their desperate search for a way out of the awful moral devastation that is the administration of GWB and his associates, they had the misfortune to meet an appealing sociopath (aren’t they always appealing?) and they made a fateful decision: “Ah!”, they said to themselves, “ I don’t have to think anymore, Obama will think for me. What a relief!” and they laid down their most precious possession - their minds - before the Golden Calf.

So the hordes that support Obama have made their choice but we who are left behind can still muster a thought or two among us, we can look at these cadres and dissect their structure, examine their provenance and from this research, try to discern their true purpose.

The Obamaites can be broken down into their several constituencies:

The Useful Fools

These are the fading power brokers of the Democratic Party. The Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, Dean crowd, etc. First off, they hate the Clintons, not so much because of the (very successful) right wingnut 20-year propaganda onslaught (although that counts as well) but because they can’t stand the fact that the Clintons actually managed to do something (prosperity, peace, balanced budget, reduction of national debt) in eight short, insanely contentious years, whereas in all that time and in all the rest of their careers, they have done, well - nothing. So they have invested in Obama because they think he is a sock puppet like GWB (but their very own this time) not knowing that sociopathy looks very much like malleability to the ignorant. Seeing the loss of power precipice ahead of them, they are clawing for one last lingering draught of the only thing that matters to them. Blinded by their lust, they don’t even see how Obama sucks them up, one by one, drains them dry and throws them over the side (anyone remember Bill Richardson?) Their power fantasies will crash and burn, should Obama ascend the throne, because other, much more ruthless partisans (see The New Bolsheviks below) have plans of their own.

The Rabelaisians

These are the smallest and most innocuous group of Obamaites. Closer in spirit to the political satirists and theater groups before them: Voltaire, Swift, the Yippies, Dario Fo, they participate as anarchists and don’t really care that Obama is essentially a hollow man. In fact, they prefer it. If Obama were to attain power, they can count on an even more intense level of governmental dissociative behavior and a more nihilistic and oppressed populace - fertile ground for machination by interested parties (see The New Bolsheviks below).

The True Believers

The most populous and the most easily manipulated are the True Believers. Their adulation has no basis in reason or responsibility, admits of no error, brooks no question and answers no call but from “The One”. In a paroxysm of religious fervor, they have given over their essential humanity and their capability of choice to their master: Obama.

Demagogues like Obama just love these folks, they are the cannon fodder for the revolution, completely disposable and completely invisible. They have absolutely no influence on events and exist only to serve as ‘the masses’. Obama’s model for this group is the North Korean populace - they starve to death for the “Dear Leader” because they have ceased to think, ergo, they no longer deserve the honorific “human”.

The New Bolsheviks

This is the last, most dangerous group of so-called Obamaites. In actuality they are not his followers, nor do they have any interest in him, his policies (whatever they might be) or his plans. This group has been looking for a way to take over a puissant political organization for decades - now they are on the verge of success. They are not easily identifiable by their persons (with the exception of those such as Bill Ayers) nor are they easily defined by their political philosophy since they don’t really have one. There is something they want, however: power.

One only has to go over the Obama political operation to see the hand of V.I. Lenin in action: the mass busloads of professionals arriving at every caucus station, beefy 6′4″ aggressive males and/or screeching Obamaharpies intimidating caucus-goers into either leaving or shutting up.


Another side note here: who was the idiot who thought that a caucus was a more democratic way to get out the vote? Completely unregulated, totally open to any and all kinds of intimidation and fundamentally divorced from the founding principle of American democracy: “one man, one vote”.

Oh wait… it was Howard “IamanObamaman” Dean… nevermind…

And of course, there is the defining Obama political maneuver - a racist political campaign designed to stir up the african-american vote by accusing his opponents of racism - nice work in a strictly political sense, it worked brilliantly, Obama got every black voter in America to cast their vote for him (this is - by definition - racism) on the theory that Bill and Hillary Clinton were white racists. Karl Rove must be spinning in his grave, oh wait…

The capper of this strategy: ever since his first tiniest success (after Iowa) there has been the constant clarion call for Hillary to step as aside as the Anointed One approaches his coronation. Without rhyme or reason, against every principle of democratic process, understandable only in the context of the naked, mindless, lust for power.


Back to the New Bolsheviks. The crowning of Obama is actually a sideshow for the NBs. Their intent is to take over the Democratic party organization, remove anyone who is actually democratic (can’t have that) and replace them with hard core ideologues (sound familiar? it’s exactly what the Bushies did to the Republican party). Note the current edict to Obama donors: put all donations to the DNC through the Obama organization… can you spell co-opt? Next, on the assumption that they manage to bamboozle the American public into voting for another incompetent narcissist - apparently not too much of a stretch these days - they will sweep out the old fanatics and replace them with shiny, brand new fanatics.

Oh please, you say, these are Democrats and they will only help restore the halcyon days of true representation and concerted government action on behalf of all the people (… pause… wait for it… cue: hysterical laughter until sides hurt).

The problem with ideologues is that, left or right, red or blue, fascist or communist, in the end they are all the same because they are interested in one thing and one thing only: absolute control over - you.

They are not interested in your problems or how to solve them, they are not interested in your children or how to raise them, they are not interested in your health or your happiness in your safety or your aspirations or your dreams - they are not interested in doing anything for you. They are only interested in what you can do for them, today and tomorrow and ever and anon.

V.I. Lenin knew what he was doing in 1917, the Duma (Russian parliament) was fractured and in disarray, Kerensky was a weak leader, the country was struggling in an unpopular war and the populace was deeply dissatisfied (sound familiar). As the leader of the minority party in the opposition he was in a lousy position to exert any influence so he called his faction the Bolshevik faction (the majority faction ) even though it wasn’t and by using party thugs to intimidate and suppress his enemies, as well as co-opting armed workers in several strategic factories, he took over the party apparatus and staged a coup on the government.

A similar coup is being attempted right here, right now. The New Bolsheviks have co-opted the caucuses and, by threat and intimidation, have sequestered the votes of millions of people they are not entitled to. They have rigged the Democratic party delegate process in a systematic manner to the point where, even in states where she has won the primary, Hillary has been denied proportional representation. Superdelegates have been threatened and intimidated and the Democratic party itself has been threatened with “blood in the streets” in Denver if they do not declare Obama the winner before the convention.

That last is, itself, very interesting: if no winner is declared and the candidates go to a vote, there will be no winner on the first vote (assuming the superdelegates split more or less evenly) this means that all delegates are then released from their commitment to a candidate. Democracy ensues! …can’t have that, can we?

The Gathering Storm

Several scenarios suggest themselves when reviewing the previous information. They all have one thing in common; the Democratic Party will not survive this election. I was stunned when I realized this, I had assumed that the Republican party was about to disintegrate into its natural constituencies (the Corporate Fascist Party, the Christian Theocratic Party and the Southern White Racist Party) but it now appears that the Democrats are going to beat them to it.

The Hillary Wins Scenario

If the Democratic party actually pulls its collective head out of its posterior and decides to try to win the general election, they will nominate Hillary. If Hillary wins the nomination, the Obamaites will run around in circles with their hair on fire and scream about how the coronation was stolen from them by the hated Clintonistas. They may bolt from the party as a faction, more likely they will try to damage the Democrats as much as possible to ‘prove’ their point that without “The One” the Democrats are lost. Certainly they will not vote for her in November. This is not quite the catastrophe that it may seem, the Obama-fanatics are neither as numerous as they might appear (remember all those cross-over Republicans and independents?) and frankly, I don’t have great confidence that they’ll show up in expected numbers come election day.

The ‘Anointed One’ Wins Scenario

If Clinton is denied the nomination by the New Bolsheviks with the support of the power-ghoul party secretariat, the Democrats can count on a huge proportion of the Clinton constituency turning their backs and exiting the party. I know that most of the professional political corps pooh-poohs this as fire-breathing partisan hype but I have witnessed a level of fury about this that is absolutely unprecedented in all my political experience. This is not hot-blooded, blowhard posturing, this is cold, hard, grim resolve – and I’m seeing it from all quarters – it’s very, very real. And it means that Obama doesn’t have a snowball’s chance of winning in the fall, the Republicans have not even begun to train their howitzers on him and he’s such an easy target: I whipped up a classic Republican commercial in about ten seconds. A simple static picture of Obama with Rev. Wright’s voice in the background screaming: “God damn America!” over and over and over…

The upshot is: no matter what course the Democratic party takes, the result will be an unbridgeable schism. Personally, I would hope and recommend that the Democrats try to win the Presidency this fall and nominate Hillary. In the best of all worlds I would hope for Obama to accept the VP spot on her ticket. It’s possible that after 8 years of watching how a pro does it, he might be capable of taking the reins himself – I doubt it, but I’ve been wrong before. I don’t think that will happen for a number of reasons, first, I don’t think that Hillary would want someone as VP whose only aim would be to do her as much damage as possible. Second, I’m pretty sure that Obama’s overweening pride would prevent him from taking second place to woman. Third, he really would be only a heartbeat away from the presidency – and that’s a scary thought.

The other variant scenario is that the Dems will force him to accept her as his VP. This would be great for him and pretty bad for the rest of us. First, if she, trooper that she is, pitches in wholeheartedly, the Dems just might squeak out a victory in the fall. This would present us with a dilemma: Obama would think this is great – he can go on eating waffles while someone who actually knows what she’s doing would do all the work… for which he could take all the credit, a perfect solution for him. We would know that the so-called Obama presidency would be yet another Obama scam-sham but we’d have Hillary there to do the work that desperately needs doing.

Frankly, in the event that he secures the nomination, I hope he refuses to accept her (I’m pretty sure he will refuse – that arrogance/pride thing again and besides, can you see Michelle bein’ down with that?).

So again, trooper that she is, Hillary will probably work her butt off trying to bring the Dems together and put The Anointed One in the White House… but, what if?…

The Crazy/Beautiful Scenario

OK, it gets a little ‘Area 51’ here so be warned. What if Hillary (and Bill) thought to themselves: “Why am I busting my ass for the Democrats? They’ve made it perfectly obvious that they hate my guts and resent everything I’ve done for the party for the past 30-odd years. We could have had a universal health plan in 1994 if the Democrats hadn’t voted against it… what the hell am I doing here?”

I’ve been saying for years that we need a viable third (and fourth and fifth) party. Ralph Nader wasn’t wrong when he said that the Republicans and the Democrats are almost indistinguishable (yeah, I know: he apparently couldn’t see the difference between the village idiot and the class valedictorian either). The wretched, pusillanimous, politically inept, spineless performance of Nancy “Impeachment is Off the Table” Pelosi and the rest of the contemptible, so-called Democratic ‘leadership’ just proves the point, the train has left the station and we, the people are not on it.

What if, in an act of staggering political courage and brilliance, Bill and Hillary formed the “Centerline Party” (just a suggestion)? Formed for people who are sick of the ideologues on both sides, who want practical solutions to real problems, who want corporations to live up to their responsibilities to the people who made them great and powerful, who believe that government can be a great agent for change which benefits us all, who know that we truly are all in this together.

We could probably get most of the moderate Republicans, y’know the old-time true conservatives who actually want to ‘conserve’ things, the vast majority of Democrats – let’s call them the ‘Big Dog’ Democrats – who want to use government the way it should be used, repair infrastructure, set realistic policies on the economy (such as raise CAFE standards), ecology (get off Oil and on to Hydrogen), conservation. Stop stupid wars before they begin and restore America’s original luster as the “City on the Hill”.

This is a unique opportunity: the most talented politicians of their generation with proven track records and substantial backing by the public, vast worldwide connections, experience and respect; who better to create a new national political organization that actually could be revolutionize, revitalize and re-form American politics for generations ahead?

Like I said, Area 51, but to quote Rabbi Hillel, ”If not now, when? If not us, who?”

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Originally posted at my blog, The Heraclitan Fire.

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Comment by itsme | 2008-05-19 12:35:15

Hmmm. 4 groups of Obamaites vs 1 group of Clinonites (”The Deluded”). Sounds like you have a tough haul ahead of you. Good luck on that!

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-05-19 13:05:11

They perfectly match up to the four categories of voters who would vote for Barack Obama. Good luck with that.

And it’s a long way to August. Keep your shoulder to that skeleton closet door, y’hear?

 
 

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 12:35:16

Bingo!

Great, great piece here. I absolutely am seeing it the same way. This has definitely been a coup.

Comment by itsme | 2008-05-19 12:37:06

“coup” means “end”. Glad to see you agree that it’s over.

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 12:39:08

Yes it is over for Obama. You did not get the memo? He canceled his victory celebration. And that was his last gasp effort to prevent a meeting of the rules committee on May 31.

Comment by itsme | 2008-05-19 12:42:10

As I said above… “The Deluded”

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 13:25:16

You make no sense.

 
 
 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-19 13:05:51

coup.1. a successful, unexpected act. 2. coup d’ etat
coup d’etat .n. a sudden overthrow of a government by force. Random House Dictionary.

** It should be noted that not all attempted Coups are successful or long lasting…**

I prefer AN ATTEMPTED HOSTILE TAKEOVER…since it’s about money…

 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-05-19 13:07:07

It’s a long way to August. Keep your eye on those skeletons.

In August, a nominee will be selected at the SDs will actually vote.

Then it will either be over or not, because Barky Obama is going to get his ass McGovernized in November if it’s not over for him in August.

You haven’t been in politics very long have you?

 

Comment by LandOLincoln | 2008-05-19 14:03:31

“coup” means “end”. Glad to see you agree that it’s over.

Wrong, sweetie baby cookie pie.

“Coup” is what some of us will be counting on your (politically) inert bodies in about three months.

See you then :)

 

Comment by FLVoter | 2008-05-19 14:05:50

what language do you speak
coup means:

a sudden and decisive change

as in
Coup d’['e]tat (k??” d?-t?”) [F.] (Politics), a sudden, decisive exercise of power whereby the existing government is subverted without the consent of the people; an unexpected measure of state, more or less violent;.

 
 
 

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-05-19 12:40:49

This is an OUTSTANDING description of the different groups who support Barack Obama. Too back all those down in the pecking order don’t even realize they are being used. The New Bolsheviks are laughing their butts off.

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 12:42:30

And we will have the last laugh over them.

 

Comment by itsme | 2008-05-19 12:57:33

History lesson: the Bolsheviks (which stands “majority”, by the way) succeeded. The Mensheviks (”minority”) split off, but were offered the chance to return to the party many times. They refused, formed their own party, fell victim to infighting, and faded into obscurity.

So it’s a very appropo comparison. You have seen your future, and it is as empty as your rhetoric.

Have a good day! You have one more victory tomorrow, one you’ll have to share with Obama. Enjoy it while you can!

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-05-19 13:00:39

Are you leaving now or shall we help you?

 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-19 13:12:49

Bolshevik. 1. A member of the group of radical russian marxists who siezed control of the government in 1917. 2. a member of any communist party. Random House Dictionary

Are you share you want to gloat as to the comparison with your leader OBAMA….Hmmm….
By The Way…It was not a peaceful revolution…it was long and very bloody

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-05-19 14:48:47

What grownin’ concern it is too.

This is the second example.

To make the point in the affirmative, that CRAIG DELLA PENNA is correct, then offer up the “minority” as proof.

 
 

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 13:17:43

Have a good day! You have one more victory tomorrow, one you’ll have to share with Obama. Enjoy it while you can!

Share? You equate OR with KY on the electoral map? You equate a close contest in OR with a trouncing repudiation by the working class (those people Obama dissed because they don’t matter) in KY? Hillary will have a huge well deserved celebration and we will join her! And she could still win OR!

Nice spin attempt designed to dampen our spirits but it failed.

Comment by Ash Mcgonigal | 2008-05-19 14:01:11

The working class? “Screw ‘em,” says St. Hillary.

 

Comment by Must post one comment | 2008-05-19 14:03:08

HRC will get trounced in OR

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 14:04:56

Shoot, I do so hope you are wrong. I’d LOVE to see her come close there.

That would really get attention.

 
 
 

Comment by Dan | 2008-05-19 13:59:48

Gallup Daily: Obama Opens Up 16-Point Lead, Biggest Yet

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 14:16:18

Quote anything you want, the delegates look at the electoral map. And if you are hoping Hillary will concede based on your wishful thinking I have a very nice bridge to sell you.

Comment by Dan | 2008-05-19 14:26:26

The delegates that come out for Obama 3,4,5 a day? Like 3 today (so far)? To Hillary’s maybe 1 but usually none a day?

I never said she should concede. Why you always gotta make it personal?

Gallup Daily: Obama Opens Up 16-Point Lead, Biggest Yet!

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 14:32:53

He can’t get enough to commit to lock her out. How many times do we have to repeat this? Since she is still in the race parading out endorsements can’t stop her. And endorsements are worth nothing at the convention since that is when the actual voting takes place. See you in August.

When you can report to us Hillary has conceded I will believe you. Until then what you way means very little. BTW Hillary won’t concede even if you tap together your wishful ruby slippers.

Comment by Dan | 2008-05-19 14:42:58

This is the second comment where you said I was being wishful. You presume too much.

But 3-5 dels a day, plus he’s already leading. The remaining states will probably be a wash. What miracle is going to happen in August?

Who is being wishful?

 
 
 
 

Comment by FLVoter | 2008-05-19 14:21:37

You conveniently left out the rest of the Daily Gallop poll.

General Election
Clinton/McCain 48/44
McCain/Obama 45/46

As well as the polls that show he will be trounced in KY and his lead in Or is only 4%.

Thanks for trying though.

Comment by Dan | 2008-05-19 14:29:30

That’s within the MOE and will be wiped out by September anyway. But 16 points! Whooo doggy!

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 14:35:48

Its the map. The electoral map. If you want to be a wannabe analyst you have to think like a delegate. They have to look at the electoral map which explains why Obama can’t close the deal and this looks like it is going to the convention. And Obama has no experience in this sphere like every other aspect of his political being. Winning by cheating won’t cut the mustard at the convention.

Comment by Dan | 2008-05-19 14:51:47

Again, are you referring to the delegates that come out for Obama 3,4,5 a day?

 
 

Comment by LandOLincoln | 2008-05-19 14:51:41

Hate to bust your hopey changey bubble, but it’s well known that the Gallup family are tight with the Bushes.

Gallup polls are always slanted in favor of those the RW favors…like their Trojan horse, Barry, Queen of Snots. (God, I sooo love bad puns, especially when they’re true.)

Comment by Dan | 2008-05-19 15:05:02

Hah! Ok. Whatever. Barry, Queen of Snots. You are a comedic genius. And juvenile name-calling. Gotta be proud of this website. In another thread I saw Obamalamadingdong. Good stuff. Really.
And Obama is tight with the right wing, too. Hah, you are gonna make me pee! HRC who cozies up to Scaife, Fox and Bill goes on Rush’s show. And Hillary is Scarborough’s unrequited. But Obama is RW.
Awww, you guys…

Comment by gentlerabbit | 2008-05-19 21:01:42

oh, oh, can i add my name for him? Flimflam Man from Nowhere Bamboozle. i see you already know it tho cause you hale from there too.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-19 18:29:57

please drive your car toward the exit sign and the little blinking red light. don’t try and cheat the parking attendant either. you trolls are so tacky that way.

 
 
 

Comment by Ndree | 2008-05-19 12:43:42

Great analysis…..Oh boy,how I yearn for that “Area 51 solution.” Get this great country back on track to greatness by two of the most competent and intelligent people in the country. Geraldine Ferraro has just said (Oh glory) that she may not vote for the anointed one were he to be the nominee. Outraged Democrats should all line up behind her.
Guts, integrity and patriotism stand above any Party affiliation; “democracy” has recently been parodied into “democratic coups!” A thorough shake-up is necessary, even if it means losing.
If ruthless power hungry thugs (in MSM, DNC, & Obama manipulators) are ALLOWED to get away with this, especially after 8 years of Rovian tactics, that’s the end of true democracy, and decent folks may as well migrate to Siberian or hide under a rock!

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 12:46:32

Geraldine Ferraro has just said (Oh glory) that she may not vote for the anointed one were he to be the nominee.

Wow that is extremely significant! More heat on Barry’s bread. He is toast indeed when a party loyalist tells him to fuck off.

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 13:06:37

She’s a hoot. Meanwhile, Obama is still trotting out his latest “Useful Fool.”

The man of change has lined up every insider.

Come on Annie Oakley! :)

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 13:18:55

Man of change has to resort to the oldest relic imaginable. How is that for irony?

 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-19 13:43:18

You know they used to call me that in basic training (a hundred years ago)

I’ve never owned a weapon since I got out of the Army in 82. I don’t like them really but if HILLARY wins the primaries and then goes ON to win the Nov. Election

out of a NEW found RESPECT for Appalachia and the middle class….. I will purchase my FIRST Annie Oakley type fire arm!

It’s only fitting! (I doubt I’ll buy any bullets) maybe one box ;-)

and if Obambi or McKook win? I’ll buy 2 boxes.

 
 

Comment by cc | 2008-05-19 13:21:33

way to go Gerry! glad she’s not afraid to think for herself or speak her mind

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-19 15:54:30

I love Ferraro….If it were a pissin match between her and Barry Queen of Snots….Well she would win….Distance and height…LOL
** no hands barry **

 
 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-05-19 14:59:12

Thanks for this update — Gerry Ferraro knows what she’s doing!

This is great news!

 
 

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 12:54:55

Where do I sign up! It’s the only solution that makes any sense to me.

I can do it on an individual level. Find good moderate but solid Republicans and Democrats to back. Screw the partisanship stuff.

But ….. really, a 3rd party that centers around moderate ideology rather than a personality is the true solution.

 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-19 12:57:40

The analysis is good but I do not think that Clinton will create a new party.
at least not yet….There is talk of a third centrist bi-partisan party….But I don’t know if either Clinton is welcome as they tend to outshine so many other regular politicians…They ( both of them ) tend to generate a lot of envy because they each mirror the others natural talent…Hmmm…
thought provoking though….

 

Comment by itsme | 2008-05-19 13:00:30

Oh boy, how I yearn for that “Area 51 solution.

I bet you have a “I Want to Believe” poster on your wall.

The Truth Is Out There!

Comment by itsme's Mom | 2008-05-19 13:06:01

Now get home and clean up the basement theres cheetos all over the floor.

Comment by Uppity Woman | 2008-05-19 13:08:58

 

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 13:19:47

Stale cheetos.

 

Comment by Dan | 2008-05-19 14:01:38

Wow! “Cheetos” How clever! Never heard that one before!
Gallup Daily: Obama Opens Up 16-Point Lead, Biggest Yet

 
 

Comment by gentlerabbit | 2008-05-19 21:06:56

the truth ain’t out there and it ain’t with a-obamanation.

 
 
 

Comment by Fred C. Dobbs | 2008-05-19 12:44:41

The finest analysis of the Obama phenomenon I have read to date.

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 12:48:30

Not so! Fosbach demands facts! He fails to realize that piece was written for a specific audience. A clueful audience he is not part of.

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-05-19 14:57:54

piece was written for a specific audience.

Someone with a basic level of critical thinking skills.

 
 
 

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-19 12:47:59

I used to work for a guy as clueless as Barry. My favorite story: one of his college buddies and he met on the streets of NYC after a long period of time. The friend looked down and depressed. My boss commented. The friend explained that, yes, in fact, he was a little out of sorts because he had recently buried his father. “Oh, my goodness,” moaned my boss, “I am visibly shocked.”

 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-19 12:49:46

Anyone who has studied the Democratic Party knows that nothin means shit till the Convention…The Democratic Party has nominate candidates who didn’t even run in the Primaries efore….in short…ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN…IT HAS..
AND IT WILL AGAIN….CLINTON WILL PREVAIL AT THE CONVENTION….
Any other speculation is a fun hobby about her strategy is a fun hobby….
Your post is entertaining….

** FACILE EST INVENTIS ADDERE **

 

Comment by secularhumanizinevoluter | 2008-05-19 12:59:37

RIGHT ON THE MONEY! Though he DID leave out the Black nationalist, Black Theeology crowd. You know, the one that thinks obamalamadingdong IS the annointed one come to RULE and make whitey pay for all those years of oppression. BWAHAHAHA! I must admit, I haven’t laughed NEARLY as much or as hard till obamalamadingdong and the obamazoids came on the scene, yep, in all 57 states…BWAHAHAHAHA! Obama knows geography! AND American history!

 

Comment by Greg | 2008-05-19 12:59:44

This is outrageous!!! Obama met in secret with Hezbollah’s Iranian Agent Imam:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/05/the_company_he.html

Somebody needs to give the SD’s a clue as to what we are getting ourselves into!

Comment by itsme | 2008-05-19 13:04:30

As Congressman John D. Dingell put it at the 108th Congress session after Al-Qazwini offered the prayer for the opening session:

“Imam Qazwini has become a leading voice for Muslims in America. He has spoken movingly of the need for reconciliation, for tolerance, and for the recognition of our humanity. He has worked with leaders in both the Christian and Jewish communities to help bridge the differences between us and to dispel prejudice. His work has touched Muslim and non-Muslim alike, and his devotion to our State and our community of Dearborn has been recognized by the mayor, the governor, and by President Bush.”

The White House has invited Al-Qazwini on several occasions to represent the Muslim community. Al-Qazwini has met with President Clinton and President Bush to discuss issues pertaining to Muslim affairs. The State Department and Defense Department have also invited him. Al-Qazwini continues to be one of the most outspoken and influential Muslim Shi’a religious leaders in the United States.

My God, you people are dumb.

Comment by Greg | 2008-05-19 13:06:33

My God, you people are dumb.

Didn’t your supreme master order you to be nice to us Clintonites?

Comment by Tom Plumb | 2008-05-19 13:49:27

Yeah, the white house also sucked Chabalis dick, and look what he did, spilled the beans about NSA codes to Iran, at the first sign of rejection.

Your point being what, simple one?

 
 

Comment by itsme | 2008-05-19 13:07:00

Sorry, I meant to say, “My God, you people are dumb racists.” My bad.

Comment by itsme's Mom | 2008-05-19 13:10:06

I told you to get home don’t make me ground you and take away the car keys.

 
 

Comment by Greg | 2008-05-19 13:09:49

Because you obviously didn’t read the post itsme…

Qazwini is very open about his support for Palestinian homicide bombings, HAMAS, and Hezbollah. And he’s a good friend of Hezbollah spiritual leader, Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah–the man who issued the fatwa to Hezbollah terrorists to murder over 300 U.S. Marines and U.S. Embassy civilians in cold blood.

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-19 13:10:03

Think about what the Republican 527’s will do with that after August … will you be there to correct all of those misunderstandings as well?

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-05-19 13:31:44

And will they be misunderstandings, or just real understandings?

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-19 13:33:33

Ah, there’s the rub!

 
 

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-05-19 13:39:21

On a scale of 1 to 10, Mr. Della Penna’s article scores a 12.

 
 

Comment by Room 101 | 2008-05-19 15:14:07

Apologists and enablers… Dhimmis.

 
 
 

Comment by susan | 2008-05-19 13:02:44

Craig Della Penna… You are a genius, sir!!! And when Hillary does form said party, I want YOU to play a key role in her administration! This is the GREATEST thing I have read in all of these torturous months of this campaign! You have been able to express all of our fears, all of our hopes, all of our suggestions, not so succinctly, granted, since most of us just say things like, “Obama is a putz! Vote for Hillary!” May I have your permission to email this to the media, to everyone I know, to the DNC, to the Hillary campaign, etc? Oh, forget it, I don’t have time to wait for your permission; I’ve got lots of work to do!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!

Comment by susan | 2008-05-19 14:40:12

Well, after I read your piece, I researced your blog site and wondered why you don’t post more extensively, but judging from some of the comments here, I guess the answer is ” What for?” If the readers just don’t get it, why waste you time? But, for those of us who DO get it, please keep writing. I tried unsuccessfully to send the following to your site.
I just finished reading your piece on Obama and Bolsheviks, and went to some of your other postings, and I have to agree with you, you “shoulda’ been a speech writer”. Where have you been hiding, and why are there never any comments after your postings? I have forwarded your Obama piece to everyone I know; it’s absolutely brilliant! I am going to go back and reread everything you have written, and please start 1)writing more, and 2) posting on less obscure sites. I’ll admit, it was I [me?? I??] who confessed her love for you on the noquarterusa.net comment section, but it was just so exciting to fianlly read something intelligent and cohesive on the Obama /Hillary fiasco. The fact that you misspelled outmaneuver and Deneuve in your postings only makes me like you more; it proves you’re human. Brilliant AND human; just the sort we want in a Clinton administration. I had previously read your “1.It makes you look like an idiot” piece and loved the humor in it. Honestly, the next thing you need to write is your resume’ and send it off to hillaryclinton.com.

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-19 18:36:10

your attempt at sarcasm is pathetic. please stick to selling gas down at the local station.

 

Comment by craigdp | 2008-05-19 21:14:58

Thanks, mmmmm… yes, a job in the Hillary administration would be lovely. Sorry about the misspellings - another reminder to never proofread your own work.

 

Comment by susan | 2008-05-20 09:56:34

I know, I spelled “finally” wrong! But more of a typing thing..oh goody, I”M human, too! TODAY is a big day for Hillary, and I believe the tide may be turning. If you’ve noticed, there is rarely anything positive in the press about Obama lately, and the threat of the Michelle video railing on “whitey” has to have the Obama camp going insane! So, sit tight, let’s wait it out, and remember that the superdelegates have to be nervous about Obama now, as well.

 
 

Comment by craigdp | 2008-05-19 20:50:53

Yes, go to town, the more information we can get out there, the better chance we have of averting a debacle.

 
 

Comment by PJ | 2008-05-19 13:07:21

Wow! Great post! Pretty much summarizes what most of us non believers have been saying and thinking all along. This article needs to be read by everyone who has cast or has yet to cast, a vote for this “transcendent” faker. Nice job, Craig.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-19 13:19:24

I don’t mean to bust a bubble…But you guys the Clintons already lead a significant faction within the party called The New Democrats…Look them up on the web….They will prevail over the current leftish power struggle..

Comment by Tom Plumb | 2008-05-19 13:39:32

I don’t see it as a power struggle, I see it as a bunch of crooks, and really, let’s see the Obama money smurfs, trying to steal even more money, and stay out of jail.

The rest of us are just trying to clean house.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-19 13:49:44

NO IT IS A POWER STRUGGLE BETWEEN THE NEW LEFT AND THE CENTRISTS…BEEN GOIN ON SINCE THE 90′S WHEN THE CENTRISTS TOOK THE WH….THAT’S WHAT IT IS…THAT’S HOW OBAMA IS PLAYIN IT….FOR NOW…

 
 
 

Comment by craigdp | 2008-05-19 20:51:46

Many thanks.

 
 

Comment by sandyR | 2008-05-19 13:12:02

Hey Author,
Really great article! I am printing it off to use for reference- my highest compliment. I love the Grecian themes and your summary of Lenin’s rise.
I wouldn’t put Swift and Voltaire anywhere near the pusillanimous antics of the Obamaphiles (although I realize you indicate them as belonging more to a parallel anarchistic thread). I just wouldn’t put the folks who wrote “A Modest Proposal” and “Candide” anywhere near the puke that is Obama.
I’d say we are drawing closer and closer to identifying that this Obama cretin truly is. And when he is finally named, he will have no power at all. (That rule exists in all types of ancient religions.) You’ve done a great deal of work in
“naming” him and his motley band of followers/allies.
Thanks.

 

Comment by Kathy | 2008-05-19 13:12:13

From your lips to God’s ears.

 

Comment by Margaret | 2008-05-19 13:12:33

Awesome post. I love the Area 51 idea. If the Clintons start their own party, I will send them my entire tax refund ($1,500). Going to hold on to it just in case!
It’s refreshing to hear someone say what we all know is true, the Democratic Party is done. Self-immolated. A centrist party would be hugely successful, so many are hungry for it. . .

Comment by HARP | 2008-05-19 13:15:12

 
 

Comment by Tom Plumb | 2008-05-19 13:17:07

If you can grasp Craig’s analysis, you can also grasp how much of the middle east, asia and africa work, too, all the banana republics, in terms of ego, paranoia, and power plays, simple selfish grabbing, magnified to levels of breathtaking faux importance.

You’d never know these people had been educated, would you, taught to think and reason, and understand WHY ultimately, the winning strategy is American, how the US prevailed all these years.

But this is about a heathers type power play for them, and that’s all.

Goat in the box, I have a craving for feta cheese,come to think about it…

 

Comment by Jeremiah "God Damn America!" Wright | 2008-05-19 13:19:21

Every one of you Hillary Supporters has to ask where are your loyalties.

Is it to the Democratic Party?

Or is it to your Country and what she stands for?

One of these loyalties trumps the others.

If Hillary Does not get the nomination, will you stand with your party and vote for Obama?

Or Will you stand with your country and vote against him?

If you read the above article and understand what is being postulated you have only one choice.

If they f*ck her over fully, no matter how much pressure pleading and guilt they put out there to bring you back into the fold…vote NObama 08.

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 13:22:32

vote NObama 08

I was sold on that 6 months ago.

 

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 13:22:51

Yes, I believe we must vote our conscience about what is best for the country. It’s not about “payback” or “hurt feelings” or even “sexism.”

It’s quite a bit more serious.

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-19 13:26:47

Loyal to God Damn AmeriKKKKKKA.

Thanks for reminding us, Rev.

 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-19 13:30:26

Well as I have stated repeatedly…I will not SUPPORT A FASCIST CANDIDATE OBAMA…
I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE DEMOFASCIST PARTY IF OBAMA IS THE NOMINEE
I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE DEMOGLIARCHY IF OBAMA IS THE NOMINEE

 

Comment by Greg | 2008-05-19 13:33:58

It’s really not about what you want, or what Obama wants, it’s about what real voters will do in November.

Conservatives and moderates are the majority, and wingnuts from the lunatic fringes on the left and right are the minority.

Clinton represents the majority, so does McCain.. add to that the insults that have been hurled at Clinton and her supporters, and you get ….

President McCain!

This isn’t a threat, this is a reality, now wake up and join the real world.

Comment by Jeremiah "God Damn America!" Wright | 2008-05-19 13:36:34

Correct, If the DNC annoints Obama the next president of the united states will be John McCain.

 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-19 13:44:09

DUH….FINE BY ME

 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-19 18:38:18

i hope they give soup and sandwiches with the indoctrination.

 
 

Comment by NCgal | 2008-05-19 14:38:28

I am leaving the Democratic Party. Period. I don’t care what happens now. I have seen that Dean, Pelosi, and Company are just as corrupt, power-hungry, and ultimately useless as I have always thought the Republicans were.

I used to think THEY were the bad guys and WE were the good. Now I see that the enemy truly is within.

I’ve never even considered for one moment voting Republican in my life. But if that’s what it takes to stop the Obama “mirage”, I’ll be putting an “x” by the GOP slot with joy!!!!

 

Comment by ChrisXP | 2008-05-19 15:01:16

Every one of you Hillary Supporters has to ask where are your loyalties.

Is it to the Democratic Party?

What loyalty? You didn’t get the memo that Hillary attracts nearly every political ideology, and even non-party members?

I’m a moderate Traditional conservative, but not a member of any political party (prefer true neutrality). So there is no “unity” hogwash to me.

The loyalty I’ll show women as an independent is: every local Dem that supports Obama, I’m voting against. Don’t care if it’s another Dem or a GOPer, the contender is getting my vote. If this means I have to stump for a Republican in a very Blue county, so be it.

Treat women as scum, they’re o-u-t.

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-05-19 15:33:51

same here ChrisXP.

 
 

Comment by so saddened | 2008-05-19 15:25:45

standing with hillary. standing with my country.

voting for mccain if obama is nominated - the only way to ensure that obama is never elected. and that’s the only patriotic thing to do.

 
 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-05-19 13:23:04

This is a fantastic article…to your list of Obama supporters, I’d like to add:

Anti-War Pacifists

Unfortunately, a lot of people are pro-Obama and anti-Clinton simply because of that one vote on the Iraq war. They’ve been marching against the war for years now and think that Obama is a pacifist. These people are well-meaning but a bit too emotional over the issue. They bring out numbers about Iraqi children in the way pro-life people bring up numbers about dead unborn babies.

These people are fanatical in their own way…this cause has defined them as being a “good person” for so long…they are going to be hard to convince that Obama is not what he seems.

Comment by Jeremiah "God Damn America!" Wright | 2008-05-19 13:31:20

They have been bamboozled.

Obama keeps making the false claim that he is the only candidate who voted against the war.

He never voted against the damn war.

He was in illinois senate at the time making back room deals and packing the health care board with patsies to help his buddy get contracts for kick backs into his campaign coffers.

The only thing he can lay claim to is 20/20 hindsight which he has in common with every other person who looks at a situation that went badly and says we shouldnt have done it that way. If the Iraq war had gone well he could say he was for it. Just like a large part of his state senate record he was never actually on record for or against…so that later he could be for or against it when it was politically expediant….aka present votes.

This little bitch is nothing more than an opportunist with highly questionable associations and a ring of political friends who are all going down currently in chicago in the pay for play scheme he helped set up for contracts with the state.

Thats not judgement to lead. That’s Bamboozling

 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-19 14:59:53

absolutely true and many are 100 percent unforgiving

they see no resemblance to those neocon/zealots on the extreme of the other side

scary point - both extremes have WAY too many voters for MY appetite

 

Comment by ChrisXP | 2008-05-19 15:13:18

Unfortunately, a lot of people are pro-Obama and anti-Clinton simply because of that one vote on the Iraq war. They’ve been marching against the war for years now and think that Obama is a pacifist. These people are well-meaning but a bit too emotional over the issue. They bring out numbers about Iraqi children in the way pro-life people bring up numbers about dead unborn babies.

I don’t mind anti-war protestors, as long as they can respect the views of folks who do approve of the work in the Middle East.

Same can be said of pro-abortion/pro-life.

If more folks actually practiced respect for diversity, the better those firebrand issues would be resolved. No one is going to 100% their way, there will have to be a compromise on both.

1. We can’t just pull out our troops and create another North Vietname and Korea. Iraqis are people too, and they don’t deserve the fate what the Afghanis faced. Orderly withdrawal, with monitors to ensure that the Iraqis aren’t just “abandoned” like a dumpster baby.

2. Abortion can’t be “on demand”. Keep it legal, but rare, and most importantly over issues of incest, rape and the life of the mother (most agree with this view). Not just because Joe and Jane thought humping was fun, and got pregnant. There’s consequences for not being reproductively responsible.

There’s more laws on the books over drunk driving, than killing a baby. That type of mentality needs to be checked. For once mankind starts regarding certain groups expendable, is the day mankind will decline to nothing (for he’ll even defy what Mother Nature gave us, the ability to care. The humanity in human).

 
 

Comment by Greg | 2008-05-19 13:24:08

Most Obama followers I have talked to seem to think they fit into another category that was not mentioned, and that is the “smart” category, which somehow has come about because some college kids and academics are backing him.

First of all, most kids are still pretty stupid when they get out of college, when all of the pot smoke clears and they are expected to perform in a professional environment, they find that they still have a lot to learn.. Experienced folks, now there’s where the really smart people are.

The next category not mentioned is the AA crowd, and with over 90% going for Obama, they are obviously doing so for racial reasons but will likely say they are not, and more than likely will try to fit themselves instead into the “smart” category.

Comment by IndayHill | 2008-05-19 14:00:20

I am sure this college kids will not be able to mention any successful achievements Obama has done.Obama cannot even accept the challenge of Senator Hillary in a one on one debate, and now he thinks he can win the debate against Senator McCain! Phony!Obama’s drug use in his youth was something glamorous to the young voters now-a-days, not mentioning his favorite rapper, Jay-Z, has “gangsta” lyrics.How pathetic!!
HILLARY, THE NEXT USA PRESSIDENT!!!

 

Comment by apishapa | 2008-05-19 14:17:01

I think both the “smarter than thous’ and the AAs both fall into the True Believer category.

Smarties truly believe Obama’s hype about how smart they are and how dumb us old hicks are. They are being bamboozled, but will never acknowledge it.

AAs seem to truly believe he is one of them, cares about their very real issues and will somehow address those issues. He isn’t, he doesn’t and he won’t, but they blieve he will.

 
 

Comment by Jeremiah "God Damn America!" Wright | 2008-05-19 13:25:06

The republicans need to trot Nancy Reagan out for one last ad:

Fade in to obama

Fade out to black

Fade in to Nancy

NR: “My Fellow Americans, Just Say No!”

 

Comment by Vnd | 2008-05-19 13:26:06

When Obama declares he’s won (sure to happen sooner than later), what if Clinton supporters withdrew en masse from the Democratic party? If we changed our registration, became independents? What happens over the course of a week if the Democratic party loses millions of Clinton supporters?

Would that be proof enough that we’re serious about this? That this needs to go to the convention?

Would it help provide the impetus for a third party run?

If anyone wants to organize it, I’m certainly on board to try to help. We can always switch back to the Democratic party once Clinton’s the nominee.

Would this be a good move? Or at minimum a good protest?

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 13:46:05

Can’t hurt. But the only thing these idiots apparently pay attention to is the final vote.

Comment by NCgal | 2008-05-19 14:42:02

“The only thing these idiots apparently pay attention to is the final vote…”

…Which they can “tweak” to suit them if my observations are correct.

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 15:08:07

True, and frankly after I wrote that, I recalled the last several failed bids of an insider elite guy. I thought, what am I talking about? They obviously don’t pay attention! LOL*

 
 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-05-19 14:44:11

This is already happening. It’s not organized, but people plan to change their Party affiliation the first 2 weeks in June. After the Super Delegates meet.

I’m on board.

It’s really a JUST DO IT! kind of thing.

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-19 15:06:39

yeap that’s how it’s happening around here too!

 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-19 18:39:54

i was planning on switching from independent to democrat until i saw what was happening. that plan was deep sixed.

 
 
 

Comment by susan | 2008-05-19 13:32:13

“cold, hard, steely resolve”

absolutely right. the day after BO gets the nod I will go to my local Board of Elections and change my registration from D to I. after 30 years.

I have not intention of abetting the suicide of the Democratic party.

 

Comment by sisterdo | 2008-05-19 13:32:57

One of the great analyses of this entire campaign. This piece is something everyone should read to understand what we’re dealing with here.

Important, I’d call it required reading.

When you understand dynamics, you can change them. This piece is enlightening. And we need it. If you understood Stalin, Hitler, Tojo, or Bush before you experienced them…….the world may have been able to prevent what they and their forces were up to.

It can’t turn out well, never once has this type of thing turned out for our good.

The more people who understand what we’re dealing with the better.

Thank you for this insight. — Everyone else, make sure we get others to see it for our own good.

 

Comment by HillaryMadamePresident | 2008-05-19 13:33:14

Craig, You have written an excellent commentary. This is a perfect categorization of Obama supporters. My favorite assessment?

First off, they hate the Clintons, not so much because of the (very successful) right wingnut 20-year propaganda onslaught (although that counts as well) but because they can’t stand the fact that the Clintons actually managed to do something (prosperity, peace, balanced budget, reduction of national debt) in eight short, insanely contentious years, whereas in all that time and in all the rest of their careers, they have done, well - nothing.


It is astounding that people have forgotten how very successful the Clintons were during Bill’s tenure in office. Why on earth would you not give the other half of that amazing team the opportunity to make it good for us, once again, instead of an arrogant newbie whom I shudder to imagine what his true intentions as c-i-c would be. As Chelsea said”Mom will be a better President than Dad”.

 

Comment by AM | 2008-05-19 13:34:56

the Democrats can count on a huge proportion of the Clinton constituency turning their backs and exiting the party. I know that most of the professional political corps pooh-poohs this as fire-breathing partisan hype but I have witnessed a level of fury about this that is absolutely unprecedented in all my political experience. This is not hot-blooded, blowhard posturing, this is cold, hard, grim resolve – and I’m seeing it from all quarters – it’s very, very real

“cold, hard, grim resolve”–that perfectly describes how I’m feeling. It’s constant and unchanging.

 

Comment by Todd Nash | 2008-05-19 13:34:59

great article.

Simply, Obama is a power monger who employs Marxist tactics as they are most expedient and accessible to him at this time. The Dem elites found him most expedient to deal them back into power. The rest is just a charade.

Speaking from experience of someone who had lived thru communist regimes.
America should not ever allow Obama into power.

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-05-19 15:41:51

Todd Nash;
Would you care to share “someone who had lived thru communist regimes” ?

I am a curious kite.

 

Comment by craigdp | 2008-05-19 20:56:09

I agree, the similarities are disturbing.

 
 

Comment by *******Typical * Bitter* White* Sweetie**** | 2008-05-19 13:35:52

He didn’t win California

He didn’t win New York

He didn’t win Texas

He didn’t win Florida

He didn’t win Pennsylvania

He didn’t win Massachusetts

He didn’t win Ohio

He didn’t win Michigan

He didn’t win Catholic voters

He didn’t win Reagan Democrats

He didn’t win women voters

He didn’t win white voters

He didn’t win Jewish voters

*He didn’t win the Latino voters

He didn’t win the Asian voters

He didn’t win the working class voters

He didn’t win.

Comment by Jeremiah "God Damn America!" Wright | 2008-05-19 13:37:48

He won the caucus states.

Therefore he and his ilk feel entitled.

Comment by Greg | 2008-05-19 13:42:43

Yeah, just wait til those General Election Caucuses start!!!

Comment by Jeremiah "God Damn America!" Wright | 2008-05-19 13:43:41

With his 58 state strategy he can lose…especially in the heartland of those republican strongholds.

Comment by Jeremiah "God Damn America!" Wright | 2008-05-19 13:44:04

erm i meant he can’t lose

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Emily Pickett | 2008-05-19 13:42:54

The constant self-reverent, self-referent, narcissistic, messianic comments… the pathology is the same as George Bush (43) …

MAN that is sooooooooooo true.
You said it perfectly!

I hope you all are emailing the link to this site.
It’s so on target! EMAIL FOX and CNN (MSNBC is beyond hope) .. and email your friends.

 

Comment by JohnN | 2008-05-19 13:43:26

After reading this and many other articles regarding Clinton vs. Obama where Obama is called a sham, a muslim, a narcissist, a sleeper agent. He’s accused of ’stealing’ the election, etc. I’m just convinced that the blogs and commenters, except for a select few are simply agents of the GOP. You are in effect saying that fully one-half of the voters in the Democratic primaries are stupid or delusional or under the control of some conspirators. When you diminish your enemy it just makes you look that much smaller and stupid.

Sure, Hillary is the more experienced candidate, but sometimes the most experienced person does not get elected. If that is the case, then Hillary doesn’t have a chance against McCain in the fall, but we all believe she can beat him. Why? Bill Clinton beat George Bush who definitely had more experience. In politics it is not experience that wins, but who runs the better campaign. I’ve voted for Hillary (more than once) and think she would be a great President, but this article is bullshit and pure fantasy. How many conspiracy theories exist about the Clintons that her rational supporters laugh off. This is arguably the stupidest article on the campaign that I have seen, and I read a lot.

– A Clinton supporter who thinks this article and the comments who support it do nothing but verify the detrimental effects of blind faith and manipulation.

Comment by Tom Plumb | 2008-05-19 13:54:59

You’re trying to support a logical fallacy.

You’re failing, keeping your whole operation together with pins, and spit and clue.

It won’t work, it isn’t working now, the whole agenda has failed.

 

Comment by Jeremiah "God Damn America!" Wright | 2008-05-19 13:57:36

No you are wrong this is spot on.

And please, if the obama camp is paying you per post to blog for him to convince the bitches we need to support him that makes you an Obama lackey not a clinton supporter.

Comment by Tom Plumb | 2008-05-19 14:02:00

I thought he was an Obama troll, I never read this as anything but sophistry, and not very good sophistry at that, the level of the Andrew Sullivan, Dick Morris crews.

They stink.

 
 

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 13:59:58

I don’t think a lot of people are necessarily deluded. They are simply busy and don’t pay a lot of attention to the inconsistencies. A lot of very nice people I know are Obama supporters and, frankly, it’s due to his race. They just like being for the AA guy. It’s not out of some dumb white guilt. It’s more about thinking of it as “cool.”

A kind of benign racism, I suppose…

Anyway, there are a lot who are in the tank due to similar skin color. We all know that. That’s not deluded or stupidity, either one.

So I’m not quite sure I grasp your logic here.

Comment by craigdp | 2008-05-19 20:58:43

The problem is that they’re not thinking critically - it’s not about race, it’s about competency.

 
 

Comment by Hillary or Bust | 2008-05-19 14:07:23

I can assure you, I am not an agent of the GOP and I run a pro-Hillary/anti-Obama blog. I am a woman who is seriously pissed off at the treatment of Hillary in this campaign. I also dislike Obama and find his cult-like following to be frightening.

I do not run my blog as a Republican disinformation campaign. I run it because I am fed up, pissed off, tired, and angry.

I have been a Democrat all my life, and even as a child I disliked Reagan and wanted Mondale to win the 1984 election even when I was only 14 and too young to vote. (My parents were into Reagan.)

I am passionate about my conviction that Hillary is the best candidate and Obama is the worst candidate. You can write that off as Republican disinfo but the bottom line is: I’m not voting for Obama without Hillary.

 

Comment by Emily Pickett | 2008-05-19 14:07:51

” You are in effect saying that fully one-half of the voters in the Democratic primaries are stupid or delusional or under the control of some conspirators. ”

Yep. Some republicans are too.
Delusional and/or stupid.

It’s the only explaination for them to vote for
the 3 year senator who is a sexist-racist pig.

 

Comment by mimi | 2008-05-19 14:58:32

How many people you figure have buyer’s remorse over voting for BO??? How do you figure that Caucus states really are a fair interpretation of what the majority of those people would do in a GE?

This is about ELECTABILITY. And what Hillary’s supporters are saying is that once the Repubs get to vote, Obama’s chances are nil.

I’m an AA and I can tell you, that alot of AAs will vote for Hillary if she were to be nominated. More than you can imagine. So why is this elite faction of white privileged voters so rabid and possessed about granting AAs their chance at a black president? Elitists who have been playing the race card during this Primary with a viciousness I’ve never seen and who have no real interest in the AA community and the problems we face.

These people are a minority. And Hillary’s supporters are trying to call attention to this. Obama is an inexperienced, unqualified, dirty politician. This is not the 1970’s when we could afford to gamble on something like this. We need someone who knows policy and Hillary is that person.

Spin it anyway you guys want, but thems the facts!!!

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-19 15:17:41

speaking of caucus states

does any FOOL really believe Obambi would win Idaho or Utah or Georgia or Texas or SC or Alaska or Louisiana or Mississippi or KANSAS over McKOOK in November???????

If they believe that they don’t know chit about how those states histories of voting RED really make them POINTLESS on ODRAMA’s LIST of NON-wins.

imo (and others that won’t turn blue for Obamba)

Fla or Mich or Mass or Penn or NJ or …………

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-19 16:01:50

Correct Dawnelle….But Clinton would actually make these competitive in the GE….Hence the GOP wanting Barry as the candidate…

 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-05-19 16:03:03

 
 
 
 

Comment by Melissa | 2008-05-19 13:49:56

Excellent piece! I would like to lock every superdelegate in a room and make them read this. Then require them to take an exam on it. If they fail the test- out they go!

Comment by craigdp | 2008-05-19 21:00:44

Sounds good to me!

 
 

Comment by politicsIsdirty | 2008-05-19 13:56:29

It is the two-party system that is destroying this country. Let whoever feels he is the best candidate run for presidency. Nobody should be pressured by peer or politics to support a party candidate just for the sake of conformity.

Hope every patriotic citizen of this country realizes this.

Comment by IndayHill | 2008-05-19 14:46:15

Mega-dollar is the backbone of politicians. Wealthy supporters can control a naive power-hungry politician, like Obama.In such short period of time he is in the public office, he & his wife are already enjoying the millions of dollars received from “interesting supporters”.He will do anything, to please this wealthy supporters, who are his advisers too.
Without the mighty dollar, forget running for office.
Craig dela Pena, I like your article, an eye-opener.
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton is the next President of the USA !!GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

 
 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-19 14:04:55

OHHHHHh BLAST!

Now cnnlive is covering a Hillary event

but it’s also time for CORBETT

drat drat drat!!

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-19 14:30:05

rally for clinton is over but Corbett is still on until 3:30 and he’s HOT!!

I’d like HIM in my fox hole!

 
 

Comment by Mercedes | 2008-05-19 14:05:27

Yes indeed. Awesome article. I am going to have check out Mr.della Penna on Google and bookmark his blog.

I hope for two things in response to these words. First, that journalists or bloggers or whoever just keep digging…name those Bolsheviks, shame those fools.

And secondly, this country desparately needs a third party embodying the qualities displayed by Hillary in this campaign. I hope someone with whatever it takes gets it going if the Democrats self-destruct by nominating Obama this election.

They can count on my support.

 

Comment by *******Typical * Bitter* White* Sweetie**** | 2008-05-19 14:06:20

Rumor has it that Keith Olbermann might be in meltdown mode over at MSNBC. His strange behavior is accelerating at BS-NBC.

The Monday NY Post reports:

Is Keith Olbermann, MSNBC’s top-rated anchor, on the verge of yet another professional meltdown? His feuding with “Hardball” host Chris Matthews is nothing new. But now we’re told notoriously odd Olbermann is lashing out at the rest of his network’s talking heads. During West Virginia primary coverage the other night, Olbermann began pounding the table when lead White House reporter David Gregory didn’t wrap his segment quickly enough to satisfy him. Olbermann recently encouraged management to oust the cable channel’s lone conservative, Tucker Carlson, and it’s also no secret among producers that Olbermann refuses to introduce Dan Abrams’ show, which follows his own. Olbermann walked out of MSNBC years ago in a huff after also blowing up at ESPN, so TV insiders are curious if this recent behavior is a sign that history will repeat itself. MSNBC did not respond to our calls and e-mails seeking comment.

Is Keith Over, Man?

Comment by Emily Pickett | 2008-05-19 14:09:23

Olberman is having a melt down? No surprise there.
He’s a nudge.

Oh .. and Chris Matthews is a zombie.

 

Comment by rwc | 2008-05-19 14:25:54

Herr Olbermann has obviously over dosed on Obamaporn.

What a frigging light weight and drama queen.

 
 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-19 14:13:08

ok THIS WORKS

I’m watching her on CNNlive
and listening to Corbett!

GREAT!!

 

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 14:15:30

Speaking of Obama moves, he issued Larry a warning today. :)

Catch the stern warning to leave his wife alone to Tenn. Gubs.?

Funny!

He’s gonna wag his finger and say, “Shame on you!”

Comment by apishapa | 2008-05-19 14:27:40

I believe his wife threatened to “rip Bill Clinton’s eyes out”. Didn’t hear Hillary whining about them picking on her hubby. Obama’s wife and her words and expressed beliefs are fair game. Whether he likes it or not.

 

Comment by Catriley | 2008-05-19 14:44:22

That’s a pre-emptive move by Axelrove. They KNOW the tape is there.. and they’re trying to create an atmosphere ahead of time where they can turn public opinion to think “i don’t care what’s on that tape! they shouldn’t be mean to his wife!”

Axelrove is the master of mindfucking the populace. Unfortunately, he doesn’t have control over half the Democratic voters and most of the republicans.

 
 

Comment by *******Typical * Bitter* White* Sweetie**** | 2008-05-19 14:16:58

Stafford, Va. - Osama bin Laden must be chuckling in his safe house. After all, the 2008 campaign could very well give Al Qaeda the ultimate propaganda tool: President Barack Hussein Obama, Muslim apostate.

The fact that Senator Obama – the son of a Muslim father – insists he was never a Muslim before becoming Christian is irrelevant to bin Laden. In bin Laden’s eyes, Obama is a murtad fitri, the worst type of apostate, because he was blessed by Allah to be born into the true faith of Islam.

There are two types of apostates according to sharia (Islamic law) and the Hadith (sayings of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him).

The first type is murtad milli,

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0519/p09s02-coop.html

 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-19 14:17:08

I’m sorry

CNNLIVE link

Corbett link and operation turn down!

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 14:27:42

Tuned in here. He’s on fire again!

GO RADICAL DEMOCRAT!

 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-19 14:31:15

bummer Clinton rally is over

Corbett still singing tho :-)

 
 

Comment by Peggy Sue | 2008-05-19 14:17:36

This essay sums up what I’ve been thinking but trying hard not to believe: that Barack Obama’s run is simply a left-handed version of what the Republicans manuevered in the George Bush campaigns: the blank slate candidate offered up as the “answer” to all our problems, while the real operators are in the background pulling the strings. Remember the Neo-Cons? Flip it over and you get the “New Left.”

Ideologues are poison to a democratic system, particularly when they get into power. I offer the last 8 years as evidence. Worse yet? George Bush actually had more governing “experience” in 2000 than BO has now. Scary proposition!

This recent dialogue on talking face to face with terrorists without preconditions illustrates a major faultline in BO’s personality. Senator Clinton raised this issue months ago. But instead of admitting a real blooper, Obama stubbornly refuses to budge off the notion. Even his personal circle knows it’s a problem. Rice tried to come out and say that Barack never said what he clearly said and continues to say now.

Stubborn, arrogant, refuses to admit mistakes. Remind you of anyone?

I’ve been a lifelong Democrat and I’m a strong supporter of Senator Clinton. But if this man is foolishly given the Democratic nomination, I will the leave the Party for good. The Dems are in the process of committing political suicide. I will not be a part of it; I will not get in line. I may even do the unthinkable: vote for John McCain. At the very least, McCain is an honorable man and has proven himself to be a patriot in ways most of us can’t even imagine.

Comment by IndayHill | 2008-05-19 15:13:25

Peggy,IMO, we are the troops ready to bring justice to Senator Hillary Clinton, should the DNC leaders pick Obama,an unpatriotic, unknown candidate.
Because we love our beloved America, we are NOT GOING TO VOTE OBAMA.
Senator McCain is a public servant & a patriotic hero. He will get my vote.I feel safer with McCain than Obama.
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!!

 
 

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 14:27:39

The trolls get their strategy from the reality creators over at Obama central. Today’s warped reality includes:

1.) The faux fight with McCain as if Obama was the nominee based on Obama’s paranoia Bush’s remark was meant for him specifically.

2.) The MSM largly ignoring Hillary while she is poised to derail Obama once and for all in Kentucky.

3.) The victim card yet again as Obama tries to demand the media can only ask certain questions and his wife is off limits, ignoring the fact Obama has continually dragged Bill Clinton into this with the racism nonsense. That might work in the MSM/Obama universe but in the blogosphere we have that covered.

4.) The pitiful attempt to equate OR and KY when KY is the electoral map state. You can’t win the presidency without it.

5.) The toning down of the nominee victory celebration to something less meaningful and equally insignificant.

Tomorrow night is gonna rock!

Did you guys see Hillary in KY today? She was extremely confident and relaxed and on her game. Obama looks burnt out and on auto-pilot like his trolls.

Comment by administration | 2008-05-19 14:29:54

Please disregard this post. Clearly a Republican troll.

Comment by President Hillary Clinton will defeat Obama and his troll army! | 2008-05-19 14:38:12

Yes I have been unmasked! Is that you Fosy?

You said this Fosy:

“I know your game and YOU know I know it.
STFU.”

Is this your answer as to what I am?

 
 
 

Comment by Must post another comment | 2008-05-19 14:28:33

What is the purpose of this site? Honestly…what are you all hoping to accomplish? My first visit here - and last. But before I go, I should remind all of you of the days when your goddess was the vicitm of character-bashing, right-wing smear tactics…the same ones you play here. Pathetic.

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-19 14:36:25

but seriously I should disregard

but seriously I have no delusions about the MAJORITY of the Republican Party’s attitude towards HILLARY

but guess what? This Devil I KNOW!

And some of THIS devil’s minions are merely irritations but not dangerous.
The Devil I don’t know is waving red flags at me daily.

 
 

Comment by *******Typical * Bitter* White* Sweetie**** | 2008-05-19 14:29:24

Not A Serious Threat
Jennifer Rubin - 05.19.2008 - 9:23 AM
This remarkable bit of footage from Barack Obama’s appearance in Oregon last night is now floating around on YouTube. It might be useful as an undergraduate course exam: how many errors can you spot? Obama apparently believes that Iran and other rogues states (he lists Iran, Cuba and Venezuela) “don’t pose a serious threat to the U.S.” Iran, specifically, he tells us spends so little on defense relative to us that if Iran “tried to pose a serious threat to us they wouldn’t . . . they wouldn’t stand a chance.”

So, taken literally, he seems not much concerned about Iran’s acquisition of nuclear weapons, its sponsorship of terrorist organizations, its commitment to eradicate Israel, its current actions in supplying weapons that have killed hundreds of Americans in Iraq, and its role in eroding Lebanon’s sovereignty through its client Hezbollah.

And then there is is unbridled faith in diplomacy, unaffected by the lessons of history. Was it presidential visits with the Soviet Union that brought down the Berlin Wall? Or was it the 40 year history of bipartisan military deterrence, the willingness of Ronald Reagan to walk away from Reykjavik summit, the resulting bankruptcy of the Soviet Empire, the support of dissidents and freedom fighters in the war against tyranny, and the willingness to identify Communism as a center of evil in the late 20th century?

You can understand why every attempt by John McCain to discuss global threats is labeled “fear-mongering” by Obama. In his world this is all a fantasy and we are not at risk. All perfectly logical . . . if you divorce yourself from reality.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rubin/6801

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-19 18:47:54

no doubt we need more common sense and creativity in our foreign policy. but not naive easy to fool wanna be your friend so i can look good obama.

 
 

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 14:33:47

He said Iran isn’t a threat? *blink*

 

Comment by *******Typical * Bitter* White* Sweetie**** | 2008-05-19 14:37:35

Seeking to capitalize on his recent success proving that he is a World Class Appeaser, Barack Obama has inked a deal with a prominent athletic shoe company for a new line of footwear for feckless diplomats. The new model in the Err Obama line is The Strike Force Appeaser.

A small but vocal advocacy group, The Sons of Churchill, filed a formal complaint with the Federal Trade Commission to have a warning label placed on the shoes. The proposed warning: “If these Strike Force Appeaser shoes are misused by kicking some ass, they will fall apart and be useless.”

The agency quickly rebuffed the suggestion, noting that the Appeaser was not designed to be useful in the first place, so it was not a misrepresentation.

The Sons of Churchill, vowed to appeal the decision, and issued a statement.

“We will never surrender. We will never give up. We will fight them on the beach. We will fight them in the country. We will fight them in the city. We will fight them in the alleys. We will fight them to the edge of the empire, but we will never, never, Never, Never, NEVER SURRENDER!”

Those guys are such warmongers. It’s just a shoe.
http://www.patriotroom.com/?p=359

 

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 14:37:50

This article would be PERFECT for Corbett’s topic of the day:

What is a radical Democrat and what is happening to the party to you?

Good? Bad? Healthy conflict?

The author should e-mail it to him. He’d love it.

 

Comment by Catriley | 2008-05-19 14:40:12

An excellent, excellent, analysis. I hate to go all Area 51 too, but I’ve really been intrigued by the NLP aspect of his campaign, his speeches, and his website. All of it is definitely designed to recruit most of the groups CRAIG DELLA PENNA mentions there.

Just as Bush was able to rally the Country around him for a while after 9/11, Obama is able to pull in these lost souls now, in these troubled times. They want something to beleive in — whether it’s real or not.

Look at Obama’s site “Join the MOVEMENT” Movement? What movement? I thought it was a candidate? What is he pushing for? Change? A new style of politics? But.. he’s surrounded by the same old Democrats, he’s funded by the same old corporate fat fats and lobbyists, his entire message is crafted and recycled by the same old tired middle aged white guys. A super delegate in my State endorsed Obama today and actually had the nerve to cite the reason as “I read his books and watched his speeches” No, seriously. Not a word about his having an ounce of what it would take to navigate this war, this economy, and climate challenge. He mentioned books and speeches. Well.. the funny thing is that he doesn’t write his own speeches, and there is much talk about his fictionalizing so much in his books and having help with them.

It’s a cult. Period.

 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-19 14:41:08

thanks for the article larry. you pretty much sumed up my thinking. i for one won’t be sorry to see the dem leadership get a kick in the tush. i am wondering with the walkout coming, and it is,just how many will bother to vote for the local dems running. coatails or lack?

now with mccain, a well run democratic congress might get some things done and checkmate him on some others sorta like bush1. not so bad! i can live with that. what i can’t live with is obama in the wh.

 

Comment by Nag | 2008-05-19 14:59:06

Excellent article. We’ve discussed some of the concepts and ideas here, but you’ve put things together in quite an articulate and compelling fashion. I see it has upset the trolls very much. It’s not that they think your explanation is bunk, oh no. They’ve just realized that they are in the witless and expendable category. Just as powerless as ever, bloviating for their new Messiah.

Thanks for this post. It’s incredible.

Comment by craigdp | 2008-05-19 21:03:50

My pleasure.

 
 

Comment by Nos | 2008-05-19 15:01:07

Does anyone actually believe that the Clinton’s could win over moderate republicans and centrist democrats with a “centerline party” founded in the aftermath of a radical feminist backlash??

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 20:58:42

LOL*……there is that one small difference.

 
 

Comment by pm317 | 2008-05-19 15:04:58

I love your crazy/beautiful scenario. I hope they consider something like that — anyway, so far she has done well without the help of the media or the Washington Establishment and with real people support, she could easily win — get the majority of the Dems and peel away the moderate repubs.

 

Comment by Nancy Sabet | 2008-05-19 15:06:46

Great article, it so well articulated what hussien Obama is? really nothing, empty suit Mr. nothing.

 

Comment by palhart | 2008-05-19 15:13:41

You lost me at calling Obama a “sociopath.” I do worry about his “sponsors”, and I don’t mean the AAs, Wall Street, and liberal white guys. Where are these tens of millions coming from? Scary, heh?!

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 16:52:24

We already know. Energy and pharmaceuticals. His health care plan sucks because of it, too.

The truth is? He made promises. He delivered on the Energy….*blech*

 
 

Comment by Betty | 2008-05-19 15:27:08

Craig, I love “The Crazy/Beautiful Scenario”.
Oh, I hope Bill and Hillary do just that. I don’t know if I can stand to see her out stumping for Obama, it will break my heart and I still will not vote for Obama.

Can the Democratic Party be saved? I wonder, if Hillary is the democratic nominee do you think Clintons will be able to get control of the Democratic party and bring it back? I wish we could start the party and have it ready.

A lot of people are leaving or have already left the Obama/Democratic Party. There will be a lot more of us out there free floating if Obama get nominated. If we had a party ready, we could ask Hillary to lead our ticket. If we start the party ourselves it might be easier to get Hillary to agree.

Comment by craigdp | 2008-05-19 21:05:25

From your lips…

 
 

Comment by miriam | 2008-05-19 16:02:01

Your commentary reflects exactly what history tells us, over and over, about the messiah movements that take place when political vacumns occur. After the catastrophe that is Bush, many people are looking for some manner of savior who will bring….CHANGE. Never mind that the messiah figure does not specifically outline this change except in the vaguest terms. The messiah manipulators will loudly affirm that this ephemeral CHANGE will be blessed and therefore good for all. It’s difficult to combat this tactic. The only ray of hope I see is that at least some Americans are better informed than previous generations.

 

Comment by Kourian | 2008-05-19 16:46:39

Wow! Quite the essay! Thank you for taking the time! But I disagree with you on one major point.

I think Barry’s a criminal. You give the poor sod the benefit of the doubt. I give him nothing.

Barry’s just a criminal. End of story.

 

Comment by Kourian | 2008-05-19 16:48:11

After the catastrophe that is Bush, many people are looking for some manner of savior who will bring….CHANGE.

Then that is their mistake and their undoing but it’s not an excuse. That kind of thing is for weak minds.

What the US needs is a hard coated woman to clean up the mess and we all know it.

 

Comment by michelle | 2008-05-19 16:56:40

After the eight years we’ve been through, my heart aches at the prospect of the Democratic base propping up Obama, a self-serving demagogue, for the presidency, which he will undoubtedely lose. Hillary, i beg you, RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT. Her chances would be better than Obama’s of getting to Pennsylvania Ave…

 

Comment by Andrew | 2008-05-19 17:10:30

Words puked onto the page here. I mean seriously man, its amazing you can believe Obama is the kind of dangerous content-free incompetent you portray him to be. Have you read his writings? Listened to what his colleagues and students have to say about him?

“Obama and GWB also have much in common with other historical tyrants: complete and adamantine belief in their ability to surmount any obstacle, appease any enemy, attain any objective without the slightest knowledge of the subject and in the absence of a plan of any kind.”

This is just off the wall. Just think about the political history of this election. Which candidate planned for all contingencies? Which candidate didn’t?

The snark about Bill Richardson being sucked up and used dry? Bill Richardson who might be VP and will almost certainly be in an Obama cabinet? I mean get your slanders right at least!

 

Comment by Susan | 2008-05-19 18:43:35

Wow is all I can say. You have nailed it.I’m so glad you know how to say and see what a lot of us are thinking. I’m for the Area fifty one plan. Hillary needs to drop the Democrats like a hot rock. They don’t care about her. You are also right about the ground swell that is begining to rise of women and some men of Hillary supporters who don’t want Obama and will vote for Mccain if she is not available. Ihave written to her to beg her and Bill to leave the Democrats. Obama is nothing and is totally being groomed by the powers that be that we know nothing about. Yes I remember Bill Richardson he is hardly recognizable and half the time he speaks he looks as if he’s inpain by the the total crap he is spewing. My god I can only hope that hillary will leave and if she is offered the vice Presidency my hope is she will not except it.

 

Comment by Prem | 2008-05-19 19:13:02

Great analysis—-have had similar thoughts like this but haven’t been able to articulate them so eloquently as your article. Love the “Area 51″ scenario. Many have said it is way over due for a 3rd party to emerge—why not now? Have been thinking about possible names for a new party, too. Centrist Progressive Party? I do hope Hillary, if she is not the Dem. nominee, will not accept the VP slot, too. She, along with the Dem. party, could go down in flames if Obama is the nominee once the Republican attack machine gets through with him—unpatriotic, domestic terrorism, etc. Thanks for your insightful analysis.

Comment by craigdp | 2008-05-19 21:07:36

glad to see I’m not alone.

 
 

Comment by Will | 2008-05-19 19:24:56

First, the Clintons are brilliant and knowledgeable, but they’re only two people, and they don’t have the kind of godlike power it would take to win an election against the dems and reps.
But I have another take on the situation we’re in, and it’s not so catastrophic. I think Obama can win the ge, with all the political capital we have. But he’ll waste a ton, and it’s a sad day when someone so ignorant and unprincipled is taking the democratic nomination.
Please see my new entries on the subject, Low Culture In High Places, and The Party’s Over, at:
http://a-civilife.blogspot.com

Comment by AnninCA | 2008-05-19 20:59:41

Nice pieces! Thanks.

 
 

Comment by xdcc | 2008-05-19 19:28:22

Obama - The Postmodern Coup: Making of a Manchurian Candidate

by Webster Griffin Tarpley (Author)

Book Description:
Barack Obama is a deeply troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by the intelligence agencies, using fake polls, mobs of swarming adolescents, super-rich contributors, and orchestrated media hysteria to short-circuit normal politics and seize power. Obama comes from the orbit of the Ford Foundation, and has never won public office in a contested election. His guru and controller is Zbigniew Brzezinski, the deranged revanchist and Russia-hater who dominated the catastrophic Carter presidency 30 years ago. All indications are that Brzezinski recruited Obama at Columbia University a quarter century ago. Trilateral Commission co-founder Brzezinski wants a global showdown with Russia and China far more dangerous for the United States than the Bush-Cheney Iraq adventure. Obama’s economics are pure Skull & Bones/Chicago school austerity and sacrifice for American working families, all designed to bail out the bankrupt Wall Street elitist financiers who own Obama. Obama’s lemming legions and Kool-Aid cult candidacy hearken back to Italy in 1919-1922, and raise the question of postmodern fascism in the United States today. Obama is a recipe for a world tragedy. No American voter can afford to ignore the lessons contained in this book.

English
PDF 291 pages
1st edition (2008)
RAR 1.55 MB

http://rapidshare.com/files/112861968/Obama_-_The_Postmodern_Coup.rar.html

no pass

Comment by Fred C. Dobbs | 2008-05-19 21:25:06

Does this mean he’ll make the trains run on time?

 
 

Comment by yheitman | 2008-05-19 21:05:31

NOTE:

Posted by 2009 at Savage Politics:

Everyone!

colmes@foxnews.com

Alan Combs on Fox News just told a Republican strategist that she needs to ’show’ him the female Hillary Supporters who are really leaving the party or not voting for Obama.

EVERYONE - email this fool right now - men and women.

Let’ SHOW HIM just how many ARE leaving!

Comment by MJ HUSSEIN | 2009-03-13 16:45:21

63,000,000 million strong including republicans who finally got their act together. How do you like us now?

Oh, how do you like your new BLACK head of your republican party, Mr. Michael Steele?

Boo hoo hoo

 
 

Comment by jm | 2008-05-19 21:36:01

Spooky synchronicity to Craig’s article. Had thought this afternoon how bo camp has basically 4 components, pretty much as described in above piece. Also just wrote the campaign that Hillary must not team with him on any ticket and how many of us would vote for her as Independent, if he steals the party, we’ll leave the party.

Also posted yesterday a name for new party: CENTRIST

What differs is, based on my research, and today’s piece:

http://www.Rezkowatch.com

carefully lays out how this has all been planned for a long time; Dean was in on it from this start, tactics were planned well in advance - AND some may call this Bolshevik but in our era with this candidate, it is rather a muslim takeover - I like that ATTEMPTED HOSTILE TAKEOVER.

Well known that muslims top recruiting demographic in US is young black Americans. Also known bo campaigned for his muslim/sharif pact cousin odinga in kenya - on his “Senate” trip, 2006, used his oration to rev up the people against their democracy, calling it corrupt (sound familiar). … more to that relationship will be made known later.

57 states was not a flub but a recall - of the 57 muslim states he knows (and likes) better than US. MUST SEE LINK:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/05/the_company_he.html

When in Michigan last Wednesday, with no time to answer Q of what he’ll do for auto workers, had a carefully planned cozy meeting with a cohort to leader of Hezbollah, even given a book “American Crescent” Now that’s a flag this terrorist -cover- illusionist-wolf in sheeps clothing-candidate can really relate to.

Suggest go to above link of this meeting and send it to ALL you know….consider that MSM tonight is abuzz with whether he really would meet with terror leaders, when they don’t know OR WON’T REPORT HE ALREADY IS DOING SO right here on US soil! Please spread this vital information.

 

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Comment by Mercedes | 2008-05-20 01:09:41

“OK, it gets a little ‘Area 51’ here so be warned.”

I have been wracking my brains for the last 5 or 6 months trying to figure out why hopefully rational accomplished politicians in the Democratic Party would be supporting Barack Obama for POTUS. This phrase turned on a light bulb for me. But it’s probably what most people would consider even farther out than what Mr della Penna is suggesting.

As a lifelong resident of the SW US, I am absolutely convinced of the existence of the extremely advanced technology for which Area 51 is renowned. Based on random things that I have seen and heard, I am also convinced that the US and the British have a special agreement concerning this technology. A lot of the information and disinformation over the years related to the subject suggests that control of the technology is only quasi-governmental.

So? Perhaps the corporate and governmental entities controlling this technology for some reason don’t trust the Clintons. It is my impression that Bill Clinton’s problems started about one year after his first term started and I remember a trip he made to Los Alamos about that time. (That probably doesn’t mean a thing to most people, but these days I trust my own personal experience and impressions much more than anything anyone in the media tells me).

Anyway, the people controlling this technology would definitely be in the category of New Bolsheviks.

This rationale for the seemingly irrational opposition to the candidacy of Hillary Clinton by some of the Democratic elite also is consistent with Lyndon LaRouche’s conspiracies. Maybe these New World Order people think they have to get the entire globe under their control before they unleash this technology. Who knows?

In any case, for me Area 51 is, in fact, one plausible explantion for what otherwise makes no sense at all.

 

Comment by 1950democrat | 2008-05-20 13:58:47

But doesn’t a third party take years to get on enough ballots?

And the CLintons are too loyal to do it. Ferraro as surrogate?

But moveon.org began in the impeachment to support Bill and moderates — and look what happened to it. Except during eletions, don’t moderate centrists go back to their real lives, leaving the organization (whatever it is) to the fanatics?

Maybe we could try the moveon sort of thing again — not to get on ballots, but to be a rallying point that could last a few years. “No Obama in 2012 either”?

 

Comment by anon | 2008-05-24 22:54:01

This is fascinating and also the beginnings of what I’ve been swirling in my head. Interestingly my unease with the Obama website seems to mesh perfectly into this theory.

On his website there is a creepy background graphic. It only flashes between page loads, so it’s sort of subliminal:
http://www.barackobama.com/images/bg.jpg

My guess is it’s the Obama take on the Great Seal of the U.S.
(see that graphic here: http://www.greatseal.com/symbols/index.html )

Now, I don’t really know a whole lot about the Great Seal, but look at the Obama graphic, really study it. It’s eerie, creepy, and perverse. It is the Great Seal, basically, but DISMANTLED.

It has all the elements but it has been deconstructed, and is slapped over with an Obama logo.

Notice the olive branches and arrows have been dropped and are strewn about. And that the flag/armor is pierced with one of the arrows. There is a cloud of smoke surrounding the elements. And it’s almost as if the eagle looks like a vulture. The eagle is usually supposed to be facing forward, and looking in the direction of the olive branch, but it’s turned it’s back, and is looking over its shoulder — it looks like the eagle/vulture is about to fly off, leaving destruction in its wake.

To me the more I look at it, the more disturbing it seems, especially in tandem with your article here. It seems to match the ominous underlayers of what a lot of people might feel but can’t articulate well, and what you have posed here.

It just doesn’t seem like the graphic is an accident, but rather, it’s meant to communicate something very specific, and subliminal.

Comment by ziggy | 2009-03-13 17:12:40

So what’s creepy about the Obama logo? Red, white & blue of the flag? That there’s a letter O, which happens to be an initial? (It is a campaign logo, after all.) That the red stripes visually echo the farmland of the American heartland, or maybe American land won and defended with the blood of partiots? That there’s a morning sun rising in the background? Why does the eagle bother us? It’s our national symbol. In the fainter background image the eagle has been turned to face the sunrise, poised for flight. That’s a deliberate message. E pluribus unum? Out of many, one. That’s us, alright. Us being Americans.

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2009-03-13 18:14:41

What’s creepy?

Well for starters, toodles, neither That One nor you, apparently know the first thing about patriotism. I bet my service to country against your childish raving any day, little boy, and against his community service or whatever he calls sitting around on his arse with his feet up on a desk.

 
 
 

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[...] following excerpts from a Democrat site called, ‘No Quarter’ in a post called, “Not now, not ever - A repudiation of Obama and the New Bolsheviks and an Interesting Possibility” copied from another Democrat site called, ‘The Heraclitan Fire.’ “Several [...]

 

Comment by PUMAS4CHANGE | 2008-06-05 23:22:34

As one who grew up in a largely black community, and has dated several black men, I’m telling you now that Obama is a player…a true narcissist who can’t even see the harm that he’s doing, in fact, he may even enjoy the chaos that’s he’s created. He didn’t even smile when he declared himself the nominee. You’d think he’d be happy, wouldn’t you?

I’m sure the Republicans will be able to dig something up on him to keep him from getting to the convention in August. God, I hope so!

Comment by MJ HUSSEIN | 2009-03-13 16:40:10

YOU RACIST WHITE PIECE OF TRASH. GOOD THING MOST BLACK MEN DO NOT DEAL WITH YOU SKANKY WHITE BROADS. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO JUDGE EVERY BLACK MAN? What the hell are you hanging out with black men for anyway to get a piece of that big black d**k because your white men can’t hang in the bedroom?

I guess you po white trash could not live amongst the white folks so you endeared yourself to the black community. They accepted your po arse and now you want to diss them. Thanks a lot.

I guess you must be peeing in your pants because the rethugs could not dig up jacksh*t on our Barack Hussein Obama.

The only chaos that has been created is by the rethugs running this country into the ground.

Comment by QueenofHearts | 2009-03-13 18:02:21

I have no idea what color you are (but I can guess), but you would be a piece of trash in any color. You are so typical of the classless morons who support the Bamboozler Racist-in-Chief.

There is so much that has been dug up on your horsesh#t messiah. It simply doesn’t matter to simpletons such as yourself, who are unable to process cognitive dissonance.

What a pathetic dolt.

Comment by cynic | 2009-03-13 18:17:44

He sounds like some white racist peckerwood to me, masquerading to try to stir up anger.

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2009-03-13 18:25:14

He sounds like some white racist peckerwood to me, masquerading to try to stir up anger.

That is an unknown fact. Sometime a cigar is just a cigar and a black racist a black racist.

 
 
 

Comment by Katmoon | 2009-03-13 18:08:01

You chicken shit back poster.

 

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2009-03-13 18:08:38

Cleanup on aisle 13

 
 
 

Comment by Frances Morey | 2008-07-12 15:14:29

ObamaMama riff by BalconesFalk

“Ya’ thought that we were liberal but we moved to the right.
“Ya’ thought that we were liberal but we Change(TM)-d overnight… ”
“We get lotsa “small” contribs from Soros, Georgie…
“Strings are attached but it’s public-finance- “free”…

Ya’ thought that he was liberal but FISA got his “Yea”
Ya’ believe he’s liberal but watch ADM get their way.
Corn, it isn’t just for breakfast anymore,
Now they’re selling tortillas at the jewelry store.

You thought that he’s a liberal ’til he supported faith based
Funding so those churchified votes don’t go to waste
You thought that he’s a liberal ’til he came clean on ProLife
Hell, for SCOTUS he just might appoint Michelle, his wife.

Ya’ thought that he’s a liberal but he moved to the right,
Ya thought that he’s a liberal but he Change(TM)-d overnight
Obama’s urban support flows his way like blind fate
But the rest of Amerika’s hip to unscripted Bittergate.

You thought that he’s a liberal with a fresh point of view
You bought that he’s a liberal whose politics are “new”
But what we got is politics-as-usual wraped in sheep’s skin
Where’s HST when we need another Feared v. Loathin’?

Ya’ thought that he’s a liberal but he moved to the right,
Ya’ thought that he’s a liberal but he Change(TM)-d overnight
I’d vote for McCain if the GE were held today,
‘Cause elitist Obama comes across to me like Bush Latte.

Comment by MJ HUSSEIN | 2009-03-13 16:42:54

Weak, weak. After the havoc the privileged white, faux cowboy from Texas finishes screwing up this country Obama is really too good for this country.

Weak riff if that is what YOU call it. Bummer…Boo Hoo Hoo

 
 

Comment by MJ HUSSEIN | 2009-03-13 16:35:08

You racist assholes how do you like it now? Boo hoo hoo this country is better than you people and if you don’t like it leave. The Indians whom you probably hate as well own this land.

You racist, bigoted…

PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA VOTED IN BY THE PATRIOTIC AMERICANS WHO DO NOT WANT FACIST, RACIST, BIGOTS AND REPUBLICANS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY.

Comment by QueenofHearts | 2009-03-13 18:04:43

You voted for a fascist, idiot. Please drink some windshield wiper fluid and STFU.

 

Comment by QueenofHearts | 2009-03-13 18:09:10

You voted for a fascist and don’t have the sense to realize it - just like you don’t even realize how racist your own ravings are. Please drink some windshield wiper fluid and STFU.

 

Comment by Ferd Berfle | 2009-03-13 18:10:58

Your comments are inappropriate, bot.

 
 

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