Crunching Some Numbers — Jerome Armstrong Lays ‘Em Out — LOOK AT No. Carolina!
By SusanUnPC on May 20, 2008 at 9:14 PM in Current Affairs
From “Kentucky (& NC) for Clinton“:
Update [2008-5-20 20:50:45 by Jerome Armstrong]: SUSA does poll both Obama and Clinton in North Carolina today. Obama loses by double-digits, while Clinton defeats McCain:
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Has Markos seen these numbers?
Going strictly by the latest poll shows Clinton leading by a 310-228 EV count over McCain, while the presumptive nominee, Obama, trails McCain by a 285-253 EV margin.
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P.S. Just in case you missed my note about this below: FINALLY! THE TRUTH about that fabulous crowd Obama supposedly got in Portland: “Free Concert by Popular Band Preceded Obama’s Big Rally.” (Another wet dream of the MSM about “The One” that isn’t the real thing..)
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But Markos said the KY results were meaningless!
I don’t go to Americablog anymore but Aravosis must be apoplectic.
Kos is a “former” GOPer.
He knew this info all along.
Most of the states Obama won are meaningless as well. He has won some states that haven’t gone Democratic since the 60s. Does he REALLY think he’s going to win Mississippi? Or any of the red states? Realllllly? What’s he going to do, round up all the Republicans and hide them?
LOL
Uppity, you are so right. I just go “Grrrrr” everytime I hear about all of the caucuses Obummer has won. Does anybody really think Obama could win Idaho or Utah in November? It is just propaganda to make somebody who is as shallow as the chrome used to be on the bumper of my old car seem like he is the risen christ. Yikes!!!!! No wonder I am so angry with those people.
Yes. Marskata said they were white women and racists.
Goodness gracious peace! Fuck Markos, has Dean seen these numbers? What in the world is the DNC thinking?
It doesn’t matter Sugar. The Fix Is In. It was IN a long time ago. Tomorrow three threatened or paid off superdelegates will come out for Obama even though he got his ass kicked tonight. This is shit for the birds. He cheated his way to this nomination and made SURE florida and Michigan couldn’t revote because he KNOW she would kick his smarmy ass. He took his name off the ballot in Michigan on purpose. He’s a smarmy piece of crap and I can’t wait to see his ass handed to him in November. Then that other radical left cliffer Dean can go do something else for a living and those nutcase off the cliffers can go to sleep for another decade. Cripes, how many of these jerks do they have to arrange before they get that the majority of this party does not want people like this running our country?
Maybe he thinks the country will Affirmative Action him to the presidency and he can skip the election.
Or, the DNC wants a token to show someone but White men being nominees?
They must know that even Obama can’t win the GE.
Worse, when was the last time a 2 term president has another president from the same party? Reagan+G.H.W. Bush.
Do we really want to repeat 1980 thru 1992 again? With the same EC vote margin, too?
Uppity is right, Sugar. They’ve made commitments. It’s not only the (conservative estimate of) $750,000 Barky’s used to buy SDs or even all the promises and threats his people have made - but the fix is in. This is why they’re panicky. Perspiring profusely as they say. The longer this stays out in the open the more difficult for them to explain why they don’t see the figures etc. What I can’t fathom is how Dean got where he was by being so stupid. He’s crossed paths with the Clintons before and he knows how tough they are. How could he have thought he could bamboozle them? It was very clumsy. Dean’s ruined the party. If Hill gets the nomination she and Bill first thing are going to have to get Dean and Brazile out of there. Pelosi too. First thing.
Kourian, when the DNC and delegates take all that Marxist cheese and then realize they need to run like crazy from the BO feeding trough to survive in November, there is no obligation to “honor the debt” and BO will get the subprime mortgage treatment.
I can hear the sound of large amounts cold hard cash with two feet on the brakes, coming to a screeching halt in a vain attempt to avoid the pile up on the beltway.
Is the DNC thinking?
No. They’re sweating.
Someone should open a window for them, then.
Is anybody listening to this Horse’s ass talking? All sweetness and light about women, the smarmy piece of crap. Just like the bastard who beats his wife and then comes home with flowers.
BUt even funnier, he said that some people **Think** the party seems divided but he doesn’t believe it. Oh Good. Keep playing with yourself about that Barky. You have no idea how much we hate you. You don’t have long enough to change our minds.
Oh yes it is so tone-deaf it’s unbelievable.
Starts by saying “I sure have a nice-looking wife and kids.” Gross! Sure his wife is lovely looking. But she wears heels and thinks it’s the year 1958. So not appropriate to say that given this race.
Sorry. Taste in the eyes of the beholder. Barry’s wife is downright FUGLY.
Oh yeah his “healthcare” plan. Even John McCain will save me more money than he will. I keep meaning to write about that fake healt care plan of his. So much crap on Barky. So little time.
The health care is the deal maker for Hill, the deal breaker for Cheep Zoot. Especially for those who are new to the race and can’t figure out which is which and who is who.
Cross the pond and look how health care is supposed to work. Less than four years ago W was bamboozling people in the US, telling them health care failed in Europe. He even forced a laugh when he told them, great actor he is.
Back in 1993 Hill was wearing kevlar to campaign for health care. But there are so many nutters who were trying to get at her. Yes she received death threats. Then there was Krystol’s Harry and Louise campaign. The HMO/health/drug predators would pay anything to stop health care.
These predators spend an average of one billion per year to keep anything from happening in the health sector. They’ve been doing this for at least ten years now. People in the US are actually subsidising the lobbyists - they’re paying for their own shackles.
And so on and so forth. Krugman recognises Hill’s plan is more efficient and covers everyone. But Barky can’t say the same thing. That’s a ‘commitment’ and he may not make commitments for Axelrod. Also: there are powerful forces intent on stopping Hill again when she moves for her health care proposal. So Barky the change agent is actually, predictably, espousing nothing more or less than the status quo.
And honestly in all conscience: when you’re talking about something as important as health care - which Hill correctly assesses as a ‘moral issue’ - how can you try to smile and leave 15,000,000 people in the lurch?
The people in the US don’t need ‘reforms’ in health care - they need a system that works. And it’s about time. Fifteen years ago the Clintons tried to push it through - and the congress were totally enthusiastic. Then the right wingers got into the game and Harry and Louise started doing their kitchen budget calculations and Hill had to either close down the campaign - easy enough, the kind of thing Barky would do without hesitating - or don the kevlar and fight. She chose the latter.
It’s what they call guts. It’s what they call conviction. She had all to lose and nothing to gain and she went out and did it anyway.
It’s the deal breaker against Barky, the deal maker for Hill.
He’s delivering a grand sermon ’bout “change!” Lots of “amen” s from the white Iowans in the crowd. Droppin’ his ‘g’s and shoutin to the mountaintops. “Change!”
He says of Hillary: “we all admire her courage.” OK, I know he’s trying to win over women but…that’s not how you do it. She just spanked you in Kentucky.
He is talking way too loud. Too preachery in the cadence.
Too preachery in the cadence
That crap drives us in the House of Grapes NUTS!
Not because he does it! It is he is not sincere and can’t sell it!
He has a mockingbird inflection…and since there has been one TV gutted today…I turn on the voice over.
It is easier to seperate the emoto-ference from the words…
Someone in another thread (TalkLeft I think) said this speech was his Howard Dean scream.
Can’t wait for the NoQuarter analysis. This was…amazing this speech.
mockingbird!
Too preachery in the cadence.
That cheap suit is more transparent than Saran Wrap. Seriously: take out all the repetitions in his stumps and you got about 8-10 words left. And I need not remind you he is not talking with his feet on the ground, he never gets down to brass tacks - he calls them ‘hypotheticals’ - and all he really is - is Jerry Wright in drag. It appeals to an intellectually less than stellar audience. And makes sagacious types like ourselves throw up.
Uppity, yeah must be smoking crack because the party is divided into more pieces than a hot pie from Papa John’s.
a hot pie from Papa John’s
You mean from one of Tony Rezko’s restaurants?
He is so GD stupid…he need not waste his time trying to pander to me…I look at him and I get sick…don’t hear a word he says…
I am still scratching my head when he says how he has to try to do better before the General with the people he is not reaching…for cripes sakes, he’s been out there for what, 15 months, and he hasn’t made himself known yet?????…how about this, maybe people don’t want to get to know him….stupid arse!
We don’t like you….read my lips, NEVER gonna vote for you and I would bet lots of other feel the same…
He is so GD stupid…he need not waste his time trying to pander to me…I look at him and I get sick…don’t hear a word he says…
That is so totally true. And you see right away on the telly how phony he is. The preteens can’t see it in the rallies. On the telly you see his beady little eyes rolling as he’s thinking. There’s no warmth there. There’s no love. There’s nothing genuine. It’s all calculated. Dirty cynical Chicago politics.
There are no smiles. No warm outgoing smiles. The only smiles are when someone compliments the arrogant Barky and he finds he can’t help grinning to himself. Yuck.
Takes about ten seconds top to suss him out and see through him.
Hillary has won more Congressional districts latest from SUSA - NC - 5/20
Obama 43
McCain 51
Clinton 49
McCain 43
by katz5 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 06:51:24 PM PDT
Can you confirm that assertion from a kos reader, Susan?
Amazing change about NC.
He’s tanking faster than Gary Hart.
Hell, Hart at least KNEW he was doomed.
This poll might have been taken from all North Carolinians—not just Democrats. That could explain the shift.
Yes true. But OTOH was it just residents of NC who voted in the NC primary?
These numbers could be a clear indication that HRC supporters will NOT vote for Sen. Obama.
BO claims he has won the nomination. Not one F… vote is taken until the convention. I don`t care if i`m the last one in the country, i will never vote for him.
I was hoping he would do that. He has just pissed off more people and Hillary will get more money and support because of this latest in a series of colossal blunders.
Last gasp attempt to make something happen out of thin air. He has been smoking his own hopium.
Keep fighting. He is a gasbag we will most assuredly resoundingly defeat. Count on it.
Wow, he actually went ahead with that? In light of KY?
That’s an incredible move. *blink*
I want this guy to crash and burn live on national tv…can’t stand Obama’s friggin’ arrogance. I’m voting McCain no ifs, ands or buts. However - does anyone believe people like Brazile who says oh the anti-Obama sentiment is just hype, and that the dems will support whoever is the nominee in November? There’s no turning around for me. I just hope others remain firm.
CC - I`m with you all the way. Never the pod people.
Yes, I’m voting for Mccain. Haven’t given up on Hillary just because barf bag thinks he’s the nominee.
So say we all!
I prefer to vote for Clinton. I will vote for McCain if I must. I will NOT vote fpr Obama.
I will vote for Clinton, I will not vote for McCain.
Or Obama.
I refuse to listen to fuckwad’s latest “historic speech.”
Planning to do some fund raising for Hillary now.
I’m so thrilled with KY!
I just have this lump in my throat about Oregon. I will celebrate tomorrow after all the results are in.
Gee I have a lot of catching up to do. This is THE MOST PROLIFIC HIGH CALIBER POLITICAL BLOG on the Internet!
(but you already knew that)
holding my breath - come ON Oregonians!
Tell me you woke up and smelled the Folgers!
puhleaseeeeeeeeeeee!
Fox on Obama:
“A peculiar victory speech after a severe mauling”.
(snicker)
BOOYAH Sista Uppity!!
Good one.
SUSA has, time and time again, proven to be the most accurate poll in all the states. I don’t know their criteria, but it seems to be very accurate for this race.
what does SUSA say about Oregon?
Skipping CNN now that Kentucky is in. Think the Clintonians in Oregon know something we don’t? Wouldn’t a win be GREAT?
CNN Breaking News: Obama has won majority of elected delegates: “Despite Hillary Clinton’s big win in Kentucky, Obama has reached a milestone tonight..”
A lie, repeated often enough, becomes the truth when one side controls the media. Here is Exhibit A.
Michigan and Florida do not exist. Their existance is simply too inconvenient. So, they are gone. You need 2026 delegates to win the nomination now.
Obama better hope that Michigan and Florida don’t count in November, either, and the media can convince us that one needs 217 Electoral College votes to win the Presidency.
Fuck CNN. They can’t wave a magic wand and make 2210 disappear.
Plus it’s not a majority that counts. You need the magic number, which is more than 2025, even CNN’s Gloria Borger said the number would change to higher than 2025.
2000 doesn’t cut it. You need the magic number.
SUSA last did Oregon on the 19th–Obama by 13.
But they only had 49% female–and we’ve been drawing more than that.
Here’s your best source for all polls in one spot:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html
thanks
I swear I heard someone on the news (one of the local stations in oregon) that there were a LARGE number of undecideds with some poll they were discussing (Hill does well with those, right?)
How do they do that with mail in voting? How can they know? or do exit polls? they can’t - who counts these? Will they have opposing poll workers at each counting place?
I have many questions. LOL Some day I plan to get answers.
They have ballot boxes. People can drop them off up until 11 tonight.
No mail today.
They’ve been counting the votes all day.
This is incredible. WOW. What in the name of common sense is the DNC thinking? Dean, Brazile, et al should be banished from the party forever for this travesty. Obama will never step foot in the White House as president. What a shame this was the DNC’s election to win and they are now going to lose it.
I hope they’re sent packing asap and are never heard from again. as dem leaders, brazile, dean and pelois are atrocious.
He’ll just say that KY didn’t matter because he didn’t campaign there. He only needed a few more delegates.
Her campaign will be repeating what they said last week. It’s BS.
She’s going to the convention. And from the looks of things, she may well end up being the nominee.
The exit polls in KY were devastating, and he can whistle all he wants, but the people are telling the party exactly what’s going to happen.
Obama didn’t campaign in KY because he knew that he was going to get stomped.
Yep — I’ve been saying that that bunch of idiots should be fired — Dean needs to find another job. Donna B. — hopefully she will join the GOP and help her buddy Rove out.
I turned it off. It make me sick. Does it bother anyone else that he brings his children out into an audience where they are not safe? As a parent I would make sure my little girls were as far from harm’s way a possible. Hmmm…unless I needed the family photo op for votes.
Another act of desperation I guess.
They’ll start releasing Oregon results 11 pm.
I can’t hold my breath that long!
hehee!
Did you folks notice something today about how the stupid pundits and the politicians, all of them, have been talking about Ted Kennedy?
All of them are describing him as the fighter for the working class, someone who has fought all his life and never quits in the face of adversity and how he will fight and beat cancer (and i wish his well, god’s speed). So to go back to my point: Ted Kennedy is a fighter , not a quitter and these are good qualities.
So, my question is: why aren’t they, these same stupid talking heads and all these politicians, talking about how a fighter and not a quitter Hillary Clinton is? She is fighting for the working class and not quitting in face of adversity too. She is fighting in a campaign and winning where she is outspend 4 to 1 and 5 to 1 and she is has not quit yet.
So the same qualities are upheld and appreciated as good qualities for one politician and negative qualities for the other one.
You tell me folks, explain to me because i might just be an idiot who happens to have a master degree from from an Ivy league school. What do i know?
ANSWER
THEY are all copying from HER!!!
I heard BO blather the same and it was identical to what Hill has been saying for a YEAR
yet BO has NOT
they are all cheats!
Don’t get down. We knew this was coming. We can use it to our ADVANTAGE. Obama just made his biggest mistake ever.
They’re going to try and railroad FL and MI, in fact, they will.
If they choose to believe it, they should, and well, not too much you can do with crazy cheater, now is there?
It’s a simple PR move, ask Axelrod.
The battle over FL and MI is far from over. We can overcome any hurdles. Look how far we have gotten!
You didn’t win Obama, pretending that you did, gives me a sick feeling like when I saw the Mission Accomplished sign.
The only thing he won tonight was a good kick in the ass from Hillary and us.
Typical Narcissist he is.
You know the crowds are sort of like a drug to Narcissist personalities. He’s on a high — and probably the crowd is ONLY koolaid drinking Obamabots. He feeds of the crowds — he feeds on the energy.
I am SO glad I don’t have a tv — I’d probably break the damn thing. During the Ray-gun years I wore out several mutes. I won’t let my husband have the mute because he wasn’t quick enough — I was on automatic — almost before RayGun would talk — I’d already hit the mute button.
With bush they got sneakier with the news promos — so I’ve given up — I NEVER want to hear bush’s voice again — and I NEVER want to hear snObama’s voice.
But from the photos and videos I’ve seen of snObama in front of an adoring crowd — he seems to be feeding on the energy of the people.
Clinton is very different — she is GIVING energy — and people respond.
I’ve seen evangelical ministers work a crowd like snObama does — strange vibes — very primitive. Those of you who’ve been in the fundamentalist/evangelical churches know what I mean.
This is why I KNOW that the video of Mrs. Obama testifying in church exists. Ministers like Wright can whip up a crowd — it is a mob like mentality — where people do and say things that normally are self censored. That self censoring of speaking out and “revealing” your sins is taken away by these manipulative high powered ministers.
What happens when the crowd turns on him, when he gets some negative press, to his face, some citizens who don’t adore?
Think he can handle it?
I turned him off. Was there really a Mission Accomplished sign at his event? Don’t worry about his stupid tactic. Hillary is going to Denver, and the RBC will have to seat MI and FL. That’s why the O’maniacs are skeered *#itless.
Obama has become a large media joke, only he doesn’t realize it yet.
We all know his game of “new” politics. You know, the game where he rolls out loser Dem endorsements after thumpings (it’s anyone’s guess as to tomorrow’s latest LOSER convert–maybe Jimmy Carter?), he interrupts Hillary’s victory speeches with either 1) said endorsements or 2) releasing his campaign fundraising totals, and he continues to spout off about winning while LOSING BIG.
He looks like a damn arse.
I thought the same thing about Obama releasing his fundraising totals during Hillary’s victory speech. Zero class, all ASS.
And we will get a lot of mileage out of his colossal arrogant blunder tonight.
OK this is not complicated:
Obama claims a false victory.
Big fucking deal. He is a liar and a snake and can he shut Hillary out? Heck no.
So get energized, we still have a lot of work to do. Turn of the damn TV if he and his MSM jock sniffers are getting to you. This is a psychological war at this point since neither candidate has 2210 and won’t until August. And we have plenty of time to knock Obama’s ass out of the ballpark now.
Remember “snakes,” the firecracker?
You’d light them, they’d expand, and then turn to ash.
LMAO.
Show some backbone like Hillary.
This pre-emption attempt by BO will backfire. When was the last time the delegates of two states where ignored? How many people has BO actively BLOWN OFF?
It was interesting to hear John King doing his “MAP” and categorically state that BO “…desperately does not want to count the votes” when talking about Florida and Michigan. That has got a distinctive ring to it, like the sound of a cracked Liberty Bell.
The MSM’s velocity will accelerate to warp speed, like driving the roads on the east side of Lake Tahoe in a snow storm, to cover these “plunders of BO”… With the growing “War with Iran” distraction when Barky (woof) gets too radioactive.
BO will continue to take the bait from McCain and repeatedly demonstrate he does not know who he is talking to, what language they speak, where he is preaching the same old sermon, when things occurred in his past and why people and polls are saying the water in his “Hope and Change” bong is growing ’stuff’.
Obama makes a cameo appearance in “Independence Day” as Marty Gilbert (Harvey Fierstein)
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While this is going on Senator Clinton will watch BO’s numbers take a dump in states he “won” ala NC and stay on message. She has already shown she can keep it as real as it gets and MCCain will play hard ball, sure as an Alaskan sunset, but taking shots at BO and addressing only policy with Senator Clinton. She gets her message out by giving the MSM an ulcer playing it right down the middle. Bye Bye BO, hello to ladies “Secret”
Remember this, to a person except for BO, Senator Clinton is taken seriously.
Teddy’s got his good points, but a fighter? If he was, then we’d not still be without UHC, after all these years he has been in the senate, and some of those years we had a real dem majority.
I agree. I don’t like Ted Kennedy, I never have. However, I don’t wish bad to come to anyone.
I think Obama has given himself his own Obotamy. This is beyond kool-aid.
People are supporting Hillary Clinton because when it gets tough she shows her own self. She will go into the trenches to get votes to actually “touch” those uneducated hicks in KY and not send a southern boy surrogate with a $400.00 hair cut. That separates the true leaders from the wannabe’s
The urban elite and the media have been living in their own ghetto for so long that they have no clue what is going on in this country anymore. It is truly the Emperor’s New Clothes.
Didn’t listen to his blather…. hopie/changie crap borrring.
This is what I know:
He’s wearing a flag pin? What? so fake
wife says America is mean, etc, etc
Rev Wright
Rev Meeks
Bill Ayers
Bernadine Dorhn
Auchi
Rezko
Repubs licking their chops
Contributed to Hillary tonight
Will continue to GOTV for Hillary
She’s the strongest candidate to win
I will never vote for Ofake
I will vote for McCain
I will not give up on Hillary
My news in CA isn’t giving it to him. They are calling it a claim of inevitability…..and they are also showing even time of Hillary and pointing out that she disagrees.
Thank you! And everyone, show some fucking backbone tonight. Big fucking deal Obama says he won. All he says is bullshit. Nothing new.
Yes, the coverage was quite objective, in fact. It did sort of make Obama look like he’s jumping the gun.
But I don’t think regular people pay attention to this stuff, really. It’s just all politic stuff.
People see what they want to see, unfortunately.
I hope Dean, and the rest can struggle through their limited vision to understand what they’re missing about Obama…
And Blago.
Oregon Democratic Primary Suffolk Obama 45, Clinton 41 Obama +4.0
Kentucky Democratic Primary Suffolk Clinton 51, Obama 25 Clinton +26.0
This Suffolk poll, published the 19th, was pretty close for Kentucky.
So, what happens if Howard Dean gets some scope, and sees the truth about Obama?
Interesting…
Dean’s an MD. They never concede that they are wrong.
Even to God?
5/20/2008
Clinton Campaign Raises $22 Million in April
Fundraising pace represents campaign’s 2nd best month of the campaign
The Clinton campaign tonight announced that it raised approximately $22 million in the month of April.
“Senator Clinton’s game-changing victories last month turned the tide for this campaign and resulted in an outpouring of grassroots support,” said Campaign Chairman Terry McAuliffe. “Just like Hillary, our supporters continue to fight. The support for Hillary continues to grow with each month and we are so thankful to the army of supporters who have assured that we’ll have the resources needed to win the upcoming contests.”
Included in the $22 million total, representing the campaign’s second best fundraising month to date, is $10 million raised by the campaign in the 48 hours after Hillary’s significant Pennsylvania victory. This total is in addition to a loan to the campaign of $5 million.
Additional details will be available in the campaign’s FEC report, to be released later this evening.
*hehe……
Are we all pooped yet from the yin-yang?
nope, rip roaring and ready to go…!
lol
Obama gives Dean his donor list–its part of the Dean Plan. Do a Google.
Obama declaring himself the nominee is simply psychological warfare and an attempt to supress the vote in the remaining states. Don’t let it bother you. Let’s keep working for Hill, and steadfastly refuse to support him. Let’s turn the tables on the axelrove psychological games.
Thank you. I said that much harsher. I am upset my fellow warriors are not holding their heads high! Hillary just had a huge bone crushing win in Kentucky! Yehaw!!!
Show some backbone like our next President Hillary Clinton!
Yes, I know what you mean. That’s why I like to remind people it’s all psychological. Gives them a different perspective and understanding of what is actually going on. They want us to give up on Hill and join their circus show. We will just keep proving to them it ain’t gonna happen. I ain’t wearin no clown suit for the Obambi circus show.
I was thinking this must be what its’ like to have to deal with Cheney and Bush, on Iraq, ie, “what do you mean we’re losing, why, they just built a new school, sort of, in Anbar.”
“Yeah, that’s it, a new school, PROOF the US has prevailed.”
After awhile, all you can do is let the loony toons spin, and see what THEY need to grab on to, to survive…
Beverly thank you. Sometimes I feel alone in seeing certain things and you have been a great help this eve. This is great night for Hillary!
I figured she’d have a counterplan to his self-coronation ceremony.
It was the money they raised. 22 million in 1 month absolutely makes it clear to the party leaders.
Let’s see….72% polled say keep going.
Landslide in KY
Exit polls show that 3 out of 4 voters will NOT vote for Obama in the fall
and she’ll have a big night tonight money-wise.
In fact, Kennedy’s news sort of blew Obama off the news. Nobody cares. They all are talking about Kennedy.
Tomorrow Lanny, Howard and Terry will tear into Obama and expose this silly man. I have great confidence in them.
has anyone checked to see that all the
rock stars have filed the necessary
FEC information? after all, they are
donating their services to Obama, providing
thousands of free tickets to concerts
and giving access to concertgoers to
obama.
is this really legal?
they gave away free tickets in Indiana
for Dave Matthews.
In North Carolina, Arcade Fire played and
a local NC band of note (can’t remember
the name) which has made it big played.
One of those concerts was next to the
place where early voting was going on.
now the Decemberists in Oregon.
seriously, is this legal and what have
the groups filed, what has Obama filed, for
in kind contributions?
I can’t answer to the legality of it but it is quite common. Country singers typically do this for Republicans and Pop musicians for the Democrats. A complaint wouldn’t work.
They already did, which is why the press was ready with her counter view.
He leaked it to see how it would float. I was just surprised he went ahead with it.
In any case, the exit polls in Oregon are about like usual. 22% of her supporters say they will not vote for him.
That’s the best he’s gotten so far.
Thank you for the revealing story about the rock band. That’s priceless and so typical of the Obama News Media to get it all wrong.
Why is CNN talking about the racism in Kentucky but not the 16 percent who said gender was an issue. Now they are saying Hillary should tell her voters she does not want them if they are only voting for her because he is black.
Donna Brazile is making me sick and David Gurgen he is saying her voters are racist.
They are completely in the tank.
Ignore the idiots. Keep donating, volunteering and working your ass off for our next president Hillary Clinton.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/05/clinton_makes_her_case_on_elec.html
This is better viewing. It’s Hillary explaining her electoral advantage yesterday in KY.
Donna is just doing her pro-Obama dance as always.
Don’t watch CNN. I’ve been boycotting them along with MSNBC. If you want to get the vote totals, mute the sound so that you can’t hear them. It was on FoxNews tonight that CNN and MSNBC’s ratings are down, and one of the commentators speculated that it was because Clinton’s supporters have stopped watching those stations.
Good to hear. I’d like for them to tank.
WAY-yell….isn’t THAT spesh-ull????
Gee whiz…could it BEEEE…that all those dismissed “low information voters” have suddenly, post-primary, MOVED TO North Carolina?
I mean…really!!!
Obama cannot win, because he is UNPREPRARED. And moreover…he is STOOOOOOPID.
Even those “low information voters” know a few things, like, say, there aren’t FIFTY SEVEN states, like, say, the GREAT LAKES aren’t in OREGON…like, say, they don’t speak ARABIC in Afghanistan…
We don’t NEED yet ANOTHER Potatoe-potato style idiot in the White House. Just Say NO to yet another poorly educated “Harvard” product. Between the Business School (GWB) and the Law School (Alberto Gonzales, and “the Anointed”) you have to wonder what kind of con job those miserable GOP-style fuckers are running!!
Fifty grand a year, for THAT kind of idiocy?
Please–any community college can do, and does do, better.
Has anyone proposed a huge demonstration outside DNC HQ?
Yes. Google it.
Maybe a million women march on DC is what is needed.
Sure don’t know what is the wisdom in him claiming victory tonight, that is really going to piss some people off no matter what happens in Oregon. Bad move if you ask me.
Agreed. It was a colossal blunder. He has been smoking his own hopeium again. We can flip this to our advantage and make him the laughing stock of America. Well he is already that but we can get more people to see it.
Listening to CNN? Talking about all the Republican talking points Obama is using. Always great at stealing others ideas–never has any of his own.
Obama doesn’t have a “Movement’? What do you call 90% of the African American vote?
He is a movement alright. The kind we flush. And the 90% I don’t believe it. I smell fraud there.
I call that obvious racism.
RACISM
obamaidiot and his obamaloons think a movement is a person and his followers. real movements are about ideas.
Did I hear right, an Obama guy is going to replace Howard Dean as chairman of the DNC? I think Britt Hume said it. Isn’t that the spot Donna Brazile had her eye on, course she is a woman, she should have known better.
If they pull that stunt they can kiss half their donations goodbye.
Wow…..now, that’s big news.
I need a source before I take it seriously. We had someone in her tonight claiming Hillary was making her concession speech tomorrow.
WASHINGTON - Barack Obama is quietly planning to take over the Democratic National Committee and assemble a multistate team for the general election, the latest sign that he is putting rival Hillary Rodham Clinton and the nomination fight behind him.
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Top Obama organizer Paul Tewes is in discussions to run the party, several Democratic officials said Tuesday.
What is this about is he taking over the party???
Is that from the Onion? LMAO.
from 20 to 14 pts drop
HAHAH Obambi you will not win by much
Its on Yahoo news can some one explain what this new move by Obama is anyone???
His fake victory declaration? He’s blowing smoke out his ass. No worries, follow Hillary’s lead. She said to keep donating and working hard for her. Let Hillary’s PR experts handle the MSM.
Apparently something one does in the toilet.
ROTFLMAO…
LOL
dudes Brit Hume CAN BE a decent guy!
I’m so glad I’m seeing a lighter side of these Fox dudes.
(a year ago I would have called you a damn liar if you suggested that I would flip like this)
it’s a good thing
Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox endorsed Hillary in ‘06 Senate bid.
I found some Youtubes of this band event in OR. On this one is a very telling comment from someone there:
Wonder how many of those were regular families out for a flawless blue sky Sunday afternoon down by the river.
wtf hasn’t the media told the concert story?
They all sat there with jaws dropped blabbering about the crowds, the crowds, the hype.
what BS!
He and his ass kissers make me wretch.
The NYTimes did. But there’s really nothing wrong with doing what he did. It’s smart.
The 75,000 was unsettling, for sure.
But voters vote. We’ll know by tomorrow morning or even earlier. The voting system is very slick. They are efficient and may have returns by midnight.
Clinton can pull such stunts also but she chooses not to and I don’t know if it is about security considerations. Anyway, I read an article from 2004 today which cited Kerry pulling a 80 to 100K crowd in Philly when Clinton came out to campaign for him.
is he the BIGGEST asshole to ever run?
any answer that beings with YES is acceptable.
yes, he is.
despite hillary’s crushing the asshole in kentucky tonight, even fox is proclaiming it over. guess the time for me to start giving to mccain is approaching rapidly. but not giving up yet!
the asshole is an asshole and maybe, just maybe, his assholeness will become public in such a way that even the in-the-tankers can’t cover it up, before it’s too late.
surveyusa is always a little off. they have mccain leadng among hispanic voters against obama and clinton
What really pisses me off is those Ungrateful AA voters! They forgot all that the Clintons did for them. What I dont undersatnd is when whites vote for Clinton they are labeled Racist! But what about the 90 oercent of the AA community that turned their backs on Her? Is that not racist?
I knew that they would turn coat at the drop of a hat. They have done this in Chicago for many a year. I know I’ll be called a racist but I dont care…ITS THE TRUTH….No racism in the TRUTH!
And…..Barky has NOT WON yet!
can anyone tell me how Obama can claim the caucus votes in Texas when the Texas election site shows the votes stopped being counted at 41%..it is the same on CNN political board and MSNBC..so how can he claim all the delegates he has when the Cacus votes in Texas i don’t believe have been certified or even fully counted..
anyone?????????
thanks..fly
Next SUSA polling project: Obama-Hillary-McCain three-way race.
I am still trying to figure out how the hell Texas gets to vote twice but Florida and Michagan dont get to vote at all.
And who the fuck decided caucuses were legitamate and reflective of the actual 1 man 1 vote principle this country is founded on?
Finally, i just want to know how the hell the son of a white woman and a man from kenya can claim the afro-american experience as his own….oh wait thats right because he sat in Reverand Wrights pews for 20 years listening to the GOd Damn Amerikkka and Down with Whitey speeches that he now claims never to have heard to give himself “street-cred” with the black community as he himself said in his book.
I mean really, a vote for Obama is a vote for bullshit.
Please, everyone who buys his crap please donate 10 dollars to me through my pay pal account…i will bring change too. Just 10 dollars. If each of you send me just 10 dollars i will bring change to my life in ways you can’t imagine. Now to go find a millitant angry anti feminist sweetie to marry.
The media note is amazing. This is the only place I’ve seen a link to actual reporting of the ‘75K rally for Obama.’ Now our media watchdog sites have gone AWOL too? It took a right-wing media watch group to notice that, um, the 75K people were attracted by a free rock concert? While it’s good staging on the part of the Obama campaign to take advantage of the support from a wildly popular rock band in this way, it’s completely disingenuous reporting to assert that the audience was there only to hear Obama. And that’s precisely what was trumpeted all over the MSM the day before the primary. I’m certain that skewed the % results in Oregon. When I first heard the story, I thought it sounded incredibly unlikely. Sure enough, my gut instincts were right again - the MSM was making a deliberate attempt to mislead the public. Popular vote means nothing if the voting public is misinformed by news outlets that are nothing but Hollywood scriptwriters in disguise.
Good grief! Obama can’t win for losing. LOL! Simply using the Alinski communist style tactics makes him a loser. Anyone who can’t win on the merits should never have been a candidate to begin with. With a resume like Obama has , he should not even be a state senator much less a US senator. Instead of people voting for him for the nomination for prez of the US of A — The lawmakers and Intelligence agencies should be invetigating this communist symphathizer. One thing is for certain. I will vote for the American, John McCain, who has fought the communist before I will vote for the man who befriended the communist symphathizers. That is a no brainer— UNLESS– Hillary Clinton is the nominee, then of course I will vote for her :).
[...] As to the crowd of 75,000 for Obama in Oregon, see “Free Concert by Popular Band Preceded Obama’s Big Rally.” (thanks to SusanUnPC at No Quarter) [...]
[...] As to the crowd of 75,000 for Obama in Oregon, see “Free Concert by Popular Band Preceded Obama’s Big Rally.” (thanks to SusanUnPC at No Quarter) [...]
These polls are a big red herring. For one thing, probably more than half the companies compiling the data are in the G.O.P. tank. Remember after Super Tues. Feb 5 when Clinton trounced Obama, how a poll came out immediately showing that only Obama beat McCain nationally? Same thing happened after Texas and Ohio. It’s all strategic planning and for now, it takes us off track. Obama will just argue to superdelegates that he’s going to balance his ticket with a big, tough white cowboy and in that manner shore up Appalachia. Better to be framing the debate like this: 1) Imagine the fallout from a G.O.P. attack ad next fall that shows Obama putting his personal ambition ahead of voter enfranchisement in Florida and Michigan. That’s going to hurt, don’t you think? And 2) Somebody needs to address the problem of Pelosi strongarming members of Congress to vote for Obama, else face consequences when they run for office next time. This could be a real showstopper at the convention.
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