Josh Marshall’s Political Toxic Waste
By Truthteller on May 22, 2008 at 2:29 PM in Barack Obama, Florida, Hillary Clinton, Misogyny, Obamedia, Sexism, Talking Points Memo, Voter Enfranchisement, Voting Rights Act of 1965
One is immediately stumped when searching for words that aptly describe the bilge sinking the increasingly cumbersome and tedious vessels that comprise the patently venal fleet of Obamablogs. According to one writer who has a predilection for reinscribing misogynistic tropes in almost every essay he pens, Hillary Clinton is “[t]oxic,” for she has the temerity to situate the controversy surrounding the seating of the delegates of Florida and Michigan within the august traditions of Voting Rights and Civil Rights that define the modern Democratic Party. Somehow that writer is convinced that Clinton’s desire to provide representation to two states Democrats must win in November will rent the Party asunder. I quote:
What she’s doing is not securing her the nomination. Rather, she’s gunning up a lot of her supporters to believe that the nomination was stolen from her — a belief many won’t soon abandon. And that on the basis of rationales and arguments there’s every reason to think she doesn’t even believe in. [sic]
Because the last sentence of the passage I quote is grammatically awkward, I will not attempt to determine the rationales and arguments the writer cites. I will, however, note how he views a female candidate and her supporters as irrational and easily aroused dupes, which according to him renders them “toxic.” I guess Hillary and her supporters are a group of impure and unruly amazons who must be tamed by Democratic men in the name of Party unity. For men and only men are arbiters of truth and purveyors of knowledge, and these men want their women to be pure tabula rasas onto which they can imprint their specular image. And this, of course, will only occur if women and the men who support them shelve what we understand to be incontrovertible evidence and predicate our arguments on the same axioms the writer I cite recklessly hypostatizes in his essay. I quote:
Never mind of course [sic] that even if you [sic] count Michigan and Florida she’s still not ahead in the popular vote without resorting to tendentious methods of counting.
I’ve always assumed, as I think most people have, that once the nomination is settled the Florida and Michigan delegates will be seated. And I can see if Sen. Clinton wants to embrace this issue to claim a moral victory even while coming short of her goal of the nomination. [sic] As things currently stand, seating them would still leave Sen. Clinton behind in delegates.
One’s mathematical skills are considered tendentious if one counts verifiable votes cast in primaries for a candidate whose name appears on the ballot. One is also considered dogmatic and unyielding if one believes the states of Florida and Michigan should gain representation before the outcome of the nomination process is determined. In other words, representation is actually its antonym, nonrepresentation, and any attempt to rely on a particular word’s proper signification will be dismissed as nonsensical, for the author has decided that all words should be treated as enantiosemes, or signs that signify their opposite. After all, Clinton is behind and shall remain behind. And besides, any attempt to change that predetermined scenario will be viewed as “breathtaking in its cynicism,” for Obama dismisses those who have not mindlessly consumed his commodified politics of postpartisanship and postmodern unity as unworthy and undereducated “cynics.” Only the voracious consumers who comprise the unimaginative “creative class” are capable of formulating thoughts, I guess.
Obamabots are fond of the word “discourse,” but they fail to understand the phenomenon of intertext, which is the product of an utterance’s situation within a broader discursive field. If they understood structuralism before attempting to (mis)use its key terms, they would know that all texts are the products of other texts. Mr. Marshall’s text, for example, is the product of all the texts generated by the campaign of the candidate for whom he serves as echo chamber. But what is insidious about his repetition of the claims propounded by the Obama campaign is the uncritical reification it enacts. Indeed, he reifies them to the point of a tautology. Misinterpreting the bankrupt assumptions of a politician as so many facts to be taken as axiomatic, Marshall misleads his audience with what can only be described as political toxic waste of the second order. For the waste he generates is a mere product of the toxic information with which the Obama campaign floods his inbox.
Discursive waste, I guess, simply begets more discursive waste, especially when such waste elides the following: Harold Ickes served on the Committee that sanctioned Florida, not Hillary Clinton; Michigan and Florida Republicans in those states’ respective state legislatures ignored the rules the DNC outlined for the primary, not the Michigan and Florida Democrats who cast votes with which Marshall and Obama disagree; Obama promised to seat the delegates of Florida when he violated the pledge his campaign made with other Democrats during a press conference he held in Tampa, Florida, last September; Obama also violated the pledge when he advertised in Florida during the month of January.
Because Obama violated the pledge in Florida, he is pure. Clinton, however, is cynical and toxic, for she upheld the pledge in Florida. Moreover, she understands the rules, which stipulate that Democrats in a particular state should not be penalized if they made a concerted effort to ensure their respective state legislatures adhered to the DNC provisions when choosing a date on the primary calendar. But none of this matters at TPM, where purity is toxicity and toxicity is purity. I guess this redefinition of words is one of those “tactical necessities of the moment” Marshall describes as so much politics. And I guess this obliges us to view his failed and tendentious attempts to transvalue words, rules and events as yet more vacuous prose secreted by a warped mind suspended in a vat of politically partisan toxic waste.


“Rules are NOT necessarily Sacred..Principals Are..”
Franklin D. Roosevelt..
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BAD FINGER DEMOCRATS
HOPE that CHANGE does not mean Rev Wright gets a 15 minute add on.
“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group,”
Franklin D. Roosevelt
“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group,”
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Every day you may make progress. Every step may be fruitful. Yet there will stretch out before you an ever-lengthening, ever-ascending, ever-improving path. You know you will never get to the end of the journey. But this, so far from discouraging, only adds to the joy and glory of the climb.
Sir Winston Churchill
Every time some dumb Obamazoid writes what they think is a McCain Gotcha (How do we beat the bitch? That’s a good question.) I think of that pig Obama and his vibrating cell phone. Last place I would want my daughter is in a room with HIM.
Yeah! ‘Cuz he’s BLACK! Like R Kelly! And you KNOW what that means, and what will happen!!!
Is that girl from the “Harold Ford, call me!” ad available?
I think we’re into a real fight between corporate, driven by Obama, and Hillary, driven by ideals.
I think that why she appeals to the public on a gut level. He doesn’t. And those of us who are verbal vomiters know.
He’s not at all the voice of the people. She is.
She’s the tradition of FDR carried forward. He’s…..corporate thinking.
*blech*
It’s a real ideological fight going on. I’m not sure how serious I think this is. I think his race offsets his corporatism.
So I’m not in some dark place if he wins. I will assume it’s to give a nod to tan skin. That’s OK.
But his corporatism?
On the next level of thought? He’s a skank.
Truly.
What? Where does this come from?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0807/5251.html
Isn’t she the one that wanted to protect corporations, ostensibly for job creation? A completely reasonable policy position — but she’s hardly the populist in this race.
Is Obama corporate because he’s winning?
I rest my case… or rather, FDR’s case which, in the final analysis, is the ONLY case to be made here.
I have been blogging about this since January — all the while getting mocked at by numeous friends who are life-long Democrats who consider themselves to be the intelligentsia of the Party. I, along with Millions of others, have consistently maintained all along, without any prompting from Hillary, that it is absolutely pathetic how the DNC and BO have consistently and unapologetically attempted to disenfranchise Florida and Michigan voters. And, in the process, put the ENTIRE COUNTRY’S Voting Rights in danger. In response, all that I have heard from THOSE PEOPLE is about The Rules, the rules, the rules…ad nauseum.
It’s high time that The Boyz get it straight in those thick heads of theirs that people who love their country — yes, men and women alike, are highly concerned about disenfranchisement of voters. And, that TOTALLY UNLIKE the Obamabots, we think for ourselves, and act on our own behalf.
Talk about PROJECTION. Obama and his Band of Merry Minions have been spoutting for months, ad nauseum precisely what they are now accusing Hillary of doing:
Funny… could’ve sworn for the past several months, especially these last several weeks, all I have been hearing from by people like Rep. Clyburn & Co. is: “…if HILLARY STEALS the nomination…” there are going to be dire consequences to the Dem. Party; there’s going to be dire consequences… they are going to exist the Dem Party, en masse blahblahblah.
This is beyond insulting — it is utterly transparent, and quite despicable! BO can say and do whatever he wants, he can tout himself as the presumptive nominee, he can hire Bruce Springstein to bring in the crowds, but it will NOT change this reality — he is NOT the nominee.
EXCELLENT QUOTE…PATRICK
Rules also do not come before Rights.
That quote is great Uppity!
That deserves to be on a t-shirt!
>>> “Rules are NOT necessarily Sacred..Principals Are..”
May I assume, then, that Teachers and Custodians, therefore, profane?
When FL & MI are included 70 delegates separate the candidates with 326 delegates remaining.
86 pledged and 240 super
This can still go either way especially when considering seating FL & MI raise the required number and that no votes actually count until they are cast at the convention.
When this all over and done, Josh Marshall’s fall into mendacity and hypocrisy may be among the saddest episodes of this campaign season.
I agree 100% I thought he was the model of new honest media. WOW , I was saddened, they all went vile and vicious. 180 degrees from what they purported to champion. Just WOW. The gate that got crashed was my reality.
I think JM really believes what he writes. What is scary is that so many people on the left have proven that they are as lemming-like as the right.
Tessa nails it. The worst thing of all about this year’s campaign is the discovery that Kool-Aid comes in ostensibly leftist flavors, too. I thought we were supposed to be the “reality-based community”.
Josh Marshall is clearly a social climber, who by his own choice pimped out TPM to ingratiate himself to the Beltway’s Democratic power brokers.
His site has continually excoriated Sen. Clinton for her vote on the Iraq AUMF in October 2002 (a vote I also opposed, and dearly wish she hadn’t cast), while conveniently and repeatedly failing to mention to its readers that Marshall himself also wholeheartedly supported the resolution at the time, and further thought that the Iraq War was a pretty good idea until things clearly started going disasterously wrong.
Well, once a political whore, always a political whore, in my opinion. I’ve long since deleted TPM from my list of favorites, and have no intention of returning. He and his merry band of Obamasluts have nothing to say that any of us direly need to hear.
What’s also toxic is that South Carolina moved their primary up before the official DNC date, yet all their votes & delegates will be seated.
Why is it that in the states Hillary won, those arte the states that “don’t count?”
You nailed this completely. Wow. You are so completely correct that if there is any Toxic Waste out there it is coming from the Obama Cult and their sycophants. The way they operate is to ignore facts and continue to repeat lies as if that changes anything.
toxic waste pretty much covers it all - obambi and his toxic supporters, the msm and dnc and their complete lack of integrity/ethics, etc.
re taming - i’m pushing 60 and haven’t been tamed yet. and, as am pushing 60, my pain-in-the-ass nature doesn’t just show itself “periodically.” so i guess they’ll have to tame some other pain-in-the-ass female.
hillary or mccain. no other option.
The tree will get shaken out this year just like after McGovern and Dukakis. And trust, me it won’t be the base that gets marginalized. They are and always will be the majority. But the time these loonies try this again, today’s children will be adults and smart enough to recognize a Hopey-y Change-y train for what it really is. Then they are replaced with the next era of innocent children AKA little suckers.
One would think that after the debacle of 2000, the DNC would be ardently against disenfranchising Florida’s voters.
To have leveled the draconian punishment in the first place is highly suspect.
Iowa and SC also violated the DNC’s rules. But since they went Obama, those states did not receive any penalties.
It goes back to the fact that this is a brokered election.
If we want more of the same, vote Obama.
If we want an actual democracy where the voices of all of us matter, vote Hillary, and if not Hillary, vote McCain.
Say NO to brokered elections.
Exactly my point above.
Why are Iowa & South Carolina NOT being punished???
Because The Precious won?
One would think that after the debacle of 2000, the DNC would be ardently against disenfranchising Florida’s voters.
The DNC just blew a hole in ‘ol Ironsides…
I will never get that…Florida attempts to get accountability in the election process and the DNC did what RNC only dreamed of doing.
Vote McCain? Seriously? There’s a lot here that’s mind-boggling, but I finally had to respond to yet another reference to voting for McCain. He very recently laid out his plans for how, if elected, he will seat the Supreme Court. Look at Toobin’s article in this week’s New Yorker for a recap. Given the chance, he is likely to pack the entire court with hard-right ideologues whose nightmarish effect on civil liberties will last through most of this century - no exaggeration. Have you people lost your minds?
The DNC has been sued…..
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=7b748861-cd21-40c0-a80c-92c461e94394
and so it begins……part 2 of Defend the Vote.
Take that Donna B.
Hallelujah!!!!!!!! Now where is the Michigan lawsuit?
Great artical Truthteller. Nuecler waste is BO specialty.
Now consider those apples come May 31st.
Right ON KEFA!!! It’s very easy to understand on that lawsuit! We have a very strong case!!! I am hopeful!!
I agree with LBJ’s Love Child. I used to be an avid reader of Talking Points Memo till their blatant pro-Obama bias drove me away. I haven’t gone back there in months.
I don’t at all discount blog discourse. Obviously, it’s relevant. I also don’t think it changes the course as much as people credit it.
The fact is that whatever the prevailing principle are in any discourse is what is persuasive. That is what Hillary learned from her failure about health care. You cannot win, even if you’re right, if the prevailing discourse is opposed.
Ditto for this election. Obama cannot win because the prevailing discourse has moved past the regressive racists dialogue that he’s still pushing. It isn’t going to work.
We’re just beyond that.
Ditto for the argument about MI and FL. It’s NOT about the rules. In a year where every vote didn’t count? OK. Then let the rules stand and make your point. This year?
Gimme a break. It’s political suicide, and we all know it.
He’ll end up being the illegitimate nominee. What good does that do anyone?
Nevermind electability. Let’s just pretend he wins. You think he’ll have the will of the people behind any good change? Ask Hillary how much Bill’s “win” helped. She had the right ideas, too.
That’s her experience. You either have the true will of the people, or you don’t.
And this is an imperfect system. Maybe the SDs stand firm. Maybe they don’t. They are people, too. Imperfect, wrong-thinking, mistake-makers.
Or…maybe the protests and marches and ads get their attention.
I don’t know. I do know. He has not won the will of the people. That much is clear.
I am not trivializing the role blogs have in the broader discursive topography of politics. But what I am disparaging is the mindless meditations of a writer whose writing is essentially a paraphrase of letters he receives from campaign operatives.
And neither has she. The race has been too close and too contentious for either to decisively claim the will of the people. Whomever we as Democrats support, that is the real tragedy of this system. It would be no different if the situation was reversed. No matter who “wins”, 50% of us lose. Now or in November.
Now, that’s where I disagree. The potential was ALWAYS there for a split party.
What’s wrong with this?
I think we’ve all got to think about this situation seriously. The left-wing? They wanted a total obliteration of moderate. They need to give in. It’s not happening. The moderates? We need need to give up certain cherished ideas, too.
Either we compromise on the ideas? Or we make this into a farce.
It’s really our choice.
I don’t see much hope for my solution, by the way. I think the discussion about Hillary supporters being entrenched in not losing is about as relevant as his supporters being entrenched in winning.
BOTH sides are wrong, stubborn, and need to rethink.
But it’s a case of staring one another down right now.
I’m not about to flinch. I presume Obama supporters feel the same.
I will let my candidate tell me when to flinch and start to give in.
Until then……we’ll meet you in Washington for the talks on FL and MI. Don’t get bopped by an orange.
i don’t flinch. my candidate may or may not. she may or mat not tell me to “start to give in.”
i don’t give in. i make my own choice.
hillary or mccain. no other option.
No seriously, we do agree on that. The potential has been there since 2000 at least. I will flinch, though. If Clinton is the nominee, I have no problem giving her my vote. I would never think about voting for McCain. That’s our difference, not the potential for flinching.
I’ll drink to that. I have absolutely no intention of voting for any Republican, period.
As no less an authority than John Dean said last year, through its own cavalier and irresponsible actions, the GOP has thus forfeited its right to govern.
AGREE TRUTH..ON THE ARTICLE AND YOUR COMMENT…WELL DONE
Honestly, I’m confused about the masochism aspect. I love being able to just relax and talk about politics. I’m way comfortable with the fact that Hillary isn’t perfect. Bosnia? LOL* Come on, that was a show of ego that deserved the blasting she got.
I’m way comfortable with Obama’s flip-flopping on Iran. He really is that naive.
Let’s just talk reality. The people we promote from the ground floor is what we’re seeing today in politics.
We’re coming out of an era of sheer prosperity and complacency. I believe the incmpetence in our government is a direct consequence of our own relaxed state.
So, in that case, a bit of “Oil Tension,” is good. WE need a kick in the pants.
A question. Is the vote at the Convention secret. If so delegates have much more room to switch
DissNfranChise?
Great new video by http://www.hirehells.com
Count the damn vote DNC!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgyqWydgLz0
(snicker, snicker) Great video!
Well put AnninCa
I hear from a reputable HRC campaign source that the Obama campaign has arranged to have Paul Tewes, an Obama advisor, named to the DNC in order to “take it over.” They are also aggressively trying to overpower the Rules & By-Laws Committee. This is starting to look like a real coup happening right under the American people’s noses. Larry, you’ve got the sources–can you find out more about this?
Democracy, my ass.
Great video!
Fran, corruption on Obama’s part no longer surprises me, but this election sure gets scarier and scarier.
I repeat the FDR quotation above:
“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group.”
Why this fellow wants to slander Hillary Clinton, a great democrat and tremendous public servant, is beyond me.
For the right wing perspective, I go to Real Clear Politics, TPM is childish and sexist.
Hillary is fighting for her party’s nomination against an unelectable opponent. The sooner the left faces it the better.
you should check out SAVAGEPOLITICS.COM AS WELL great arcticles on nolyingbama ever!
If they plan to swipe Fl and MI from Clinton, and they do, no matter what, can she take them to court?
And in doing so, can she expose a bias toward Obama, or show intent on the part of Dean to defraud her, purposely?
Pull a string, so to speak….
Rush L. talked about that today. It’s “voter fraud,” he says.
My take is that Hillary wouldn’t bother with taking this beyond the voters.
Either they wish her to keep fighting or not.
But then, I admit, I listen to her.
When she says, “What do YOU want, I believe her.”
This is up to us, as far as Hillary is concerned.
Listen to the conference call. I know you are highly perceptive and will see what is going to happen and its all good. Hillary will buy a ticket to fight it out in Denver. And we know what a chickenshit Obama is. He won’t be able to handle a slug-fest with Hillary.
I believe she needs to take them to court, as they fixed, and swiped a federal election.
It IS about far more than Hillary, it is also about fighting the precedence all the future Obama’s, and Bushs, are trying to set.
She is fighting for the American voter, for the integrity of the American government.
Period.
Agreed and she will fight all the way to Denver now as far as the nomination battle goes.
This process is going to the convention. Listen to today’s conference call. It cuts right through the MSM and troll spin.
Keep up the heat on the DNC and listen to the call keenly! A whole lot is revealed.
Hillary ‘08 + ‘12
The Daily Howler on Marshall:
JOSH SHOWS UP TEN YEARS LATER:
Simply put, there are no words. It’s hard to find the words to explain—well, there are few words with which we can explain our reaction.
A bit of background: Our opinion of Josh has dropped and dropped over the past several years. In our view, he was out there in the summer of 2002, saying things he knew were untrue, and he has refused to tell you, over the years, about the real shape of your politics. (Today’s post in an example.) With growing surprise, we’ve watched him turn himself into the Inconsequential Republican Blow-Job Police, presumably as a way to throw bones to his readers, whom he apparently takes to be dimwits. (If we may borrow from the Steinbeck: Whenever an inconsequential state senator gives someone a blow job, Josh will be there.) A few months ago, we reviewed his work from 1999 and 2000, and we were truly stunned by its brilliance—stunned because we’d grown accustomed to the dumbed-down version of Josh we’d been reading over the past several years.
But last night’s post really does take the cake for disingenuous running of rubes. With this post, Josh sends his readers a message: Hey, you big dumb f*cking rubes!
In 2002, Josh ran onto CNN to make an accurate statement about the press corps’ attitudes in this campaign. “I think deep down most reporters just have contempt for Al Gore. I don’t even think it’s dislike. It’s more like a disdain and contempt,” he said. “And this was, you know, a year-and-a-half before the [2000] election, I think you could say this.” In fact, the trashing of Gore started twenty months out; but aside from that minor book-keeping point, Josh’s statement was perfectly accurate—right straight on the money. And no one played a bigger role in this remarkable story than Matthews, who had transferred his earlier, blatant Clinton-hating into his vicious Gore-trashing. And by the way: If you think Josh somehow didn’t know this, we have a yellow brick road to the Bridge to Nowhere that we’d be willing to sell you.
Josh has known this all these years—and, for reasons we can’t explain, he has been massively quiet about it. (By the way: In 2004, some voters swallowed the swift-boat campaign about Kerry because they hadn’t ever been told about the swift-boat campaign against Gore.)
Silent during Campaign 2000. And silent about Campaign 2000 in the critical years which followed. Silent about Matthews’ gender-based trashing of Hillary Clinton during 2007. Why, Josh even kept quiet as he live-blogged the October 30 debate, as Russert and Williams pig-piled on Clinton, completely transforming the Dem White House race; somehow, he just failed to see it.
We can’t tell you why Josh has played this game, but his persistent failure to lead has been deep and consequential. But then, Josh has hardly been alone in this gut-bucket conduct. A very long line of housebroken “good liberals” have kept their delicate traps tightly shut about the mainstream press corps’ conduct over the past dozen years. They’ve done what’s safe; they’ve protected their careers. And they gave you the dead of Iraq.
In these ways, our leaders maintain their place in the klub. In this way, your most vital interests have been sent down the drain, thrown like dust into the wind. In this way, Bush ended up in the White House.
Thank you for posting this here. Some truth and sanity.
>>> We can’t tell you why Josh has played this game,
Uh, because he’s a pissant?
Democrat Bigwigs Reject Obama’s Foreign Policy.
http://patriotroom.com/?p=370
Thanks Bill!
I thought there were going to be protests in Florida today. Were there? No coverage?
Anybody know???
Yes, there were protests. Covered, sort of.
But covered up more.
That’s a good sign to me.
These are protests that matter.
Josh Marshall is finished. He was wrong about the Iraq war, and he’s wrong about this. When it counts, Joshua Micah (puh-leeze) loses his head. He strikes me as a very gullible, naive person. I think the sudden deaths of both his parents has effected him in ways he is not conscious of. Shrink time.
I just sent this email to all the super delegates in my state using the link. Please join me and contact delegates from your states.
https://www.lobbydelegates.com/
this is what I wrote:
I’ve always assumed, as I think most people have, that once the nomination is settled the Florida and Michigan delegates will be seated. - TPWKJMM
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If this is really how you feel, Marshall, than you should have no problem with the votes in Fl & MI actually counting, right? I mean, why seat the state’s delegates if they do not represent the will of the voters in those two states?
Only an asshole like Josh Michael Marshall would want the Florida and Michigan delegates seated without them representing the will of the voters, simply because this scam gives Obama the nomination while at the same time allows the DNC to cover their asses. Bullshit!
At a certain point, this election fixing NEEDS to stop.
So, when do the Clintons, and the Gores, finally say “enough?”
This is a good time to start…
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http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26250
You know, for a group of people who’ve recently become sensitized (in some cases, justifiably) to accusations of racism, you sure don’t miss an opportunity to find sexism and misogyny in literally every criticism of your preferred candidate. Surely, if someone can oppose Obama for non-racial reasons, the same can be true of Clinton and gender. Contrary to what they told you freshman year in the Oberlin college common room, the phallocracy does not in fact lurk behind every adjective. Sometimes “toxic” just means toxic.
Ignore the fauxgressive troll, folks…
I have to borrow his term.
Member of the vast, middle of the road, Phallocracy!
Yawn.
Of all the threads going today the conference call one is the most important! I urge my friends here to focus extra attention to it! I just posted this there:
Please participate heavily by clicking here.
And listen to the conference call. You will find great solace and strength after listening! I guarantee!
Excellent post. I weary of the bullies like Marshall, Kos and the unhinged sexism of Andy Sullivan. They actually think they’re helping Obama.
Right. And whining about the rules after the game is over really helps HRC.
Here Goes…watch “DissNfranChise”
Tried embedding this - twice…never mind…here’s the old-fashioned URL - for the new VID for MAY 31 DNC MTG: “DissNfranChise”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgyqWydgLz0
What a bunch of crybabies. The Clintons have never been able to play by the rules. She agreed before the primaries that Michigan and Florida didn’t count, and now she needs a rule change to still be in the discussion. Give it up. She lost. It’s over.
Josh has joined the Clinton haters like kos, huffington, olberman, cafferty, etc… to toss all credibilty he has worked to achieve.
Just another Obama hack.
If you are going to take to task the Obama Echo Chamber and its disconnect between the Politics of Kumbaya and its ad hominem and moderately woman-hating (in some quarters) commentary toward Mrs. Clinton, then why are you NOT critiquing the statements coming from The Daily Dish/The Atlantic magazine (oh, the bloggers get nasty over there when you connect the blogs to the magazine…I suppose they don’t grasp that when the big masthead over the blog says “The Atlantic“