Obama O’Trauma
By Truthteller on May 27, 2008 at 3:23 PM in Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Hoodwinking, Obamaisms
Only a desperate candidate raises the specter of the Holocaust for electoral gain.
[UPDATE: WORM Obama intended to mention Buchenwald, not Auschwitz. But the point that he shamelessly exploited the trauma of the Holocaust for political gain still stands, as do my contentions that he does not understand PTSD, military history or European and American Jewry. He remains a man who will do and say anything in order to win an election. And one still must ask why he mentioned Auschwitz, the most notorious of the death camps. Indeed, Americans know of Auschwitz, not Buchenwald, which was, by the way, liberated by Americans in April 1945. Just substitute one camp for another for maximum effect, I guess. Obama also acknowledges that it was his "great uncle" and not his "uncle" who served in WWII. Those who fabricate autobiographies have a difficult time remaining factual.]
American troops did not liberate Auschwitz; the Soviet troops of the First Army of the Ukrainian Front liberated the Birkenau death camp and the Monowitz labor camp on 27 January 1945 under the leadership of Marshal Koniev.
The three Auschwitz camps and its many satellites in Poland on the Eastern Front were abandoned by the Germans nine days before the Soviets arrived. And the gassing of prisoners at the Birkenau death camp of Auschwitz had seized in October 1944. Yes, Soviet soldiers did encounter carnage, destruction, destitution and desolation at the camps, but what they encountered was not as gruesome as some may believe, as the Germans removed and destroyed the evidence before the Soviets arrived. What they did encounter when they arrived were the tales related by those who remained in Auschwitz and Birkenau.
Some claim the Soviet troops did not even liberate the camps; according to some eyewitnesses, the Soviets just happened upon them. And others claim Jews and other political prisoners simply liberated themselves after the Germans abandoned the prisons. The Soviets were the ones to first approach the Auschwitz camps, however. But the photographs preserved for posterity of prisoners embracing Soviet men in uniform near the arch that reads “Arbeit Macht Frei” were staged one month later. No one should be surprised that the Soviets exploited trauma for political gain in February 1945. But one should be surprised that Barack Obama would in 2008, especially as his “uncle” [UPDATE: His campaign now admits that he should have said "great uncle"] and all American forces were fighting on the Western front, not the Eastern front, in January 1945.
Notice only Soviet armies were on the Eastern front in January 1945. And notice the Allied Forces of the West on the Western front had just crossed the Western border of Germany. The Allied Forces were nowhere near Auschwitz.
Auschwitz, by the way, was not the first death camp to be liberated; that distinction belongs to Majdanek, a camp in in Eastern Poland the Soviets liberated on 23 JULY 1944. When the Soviets did arrive at Auschwitz, they knew what to expect, as they already saw gas chambers at Majdanek. They were also aware of all the reports on the gas chambers the BBC had been circulating since 1942.
What I find particularly objectionable about Obama’s attempt to stake a claim in the Holocaust is his exploitation of one of the most traumatic moments of Western history in order to buttress the claim that he is both a patriot and a friend of the Jewish community. Certain aspects of history are not to be blithely invoked and distorted. Indeed, only leaders such as Stalin would exploit the Holocaust for political purposes.
Even more offensive is Obama’s deployment of the rhetoric of trauma as it pertains to the Holocaust in order to elicit the sympathy and empathy veterans who are genuinely concerned about men and women in uniform who are presently suffering from PTSD. For the PTSD engendered by a war involving attacks from all sides from ununiformed enemies unaffiliated with any particular state is very different from the pain and suffering experienced by those who served on the fronts of WWII. It is also very different from the trauma engendered by those who witness of carnage and coordinated acts of genocide. Not all trauma is the same, and psychological maladies of the 1940s are not the same as those of in 2008: the weapons are different; the cultures are different; quotidian experience is different.
Certainly Obama’s “uncle” and other WWII veterans experienced trauma in the wake of all that occurred in the Japanese and European theaters. But to debase those experiences by fabricating a tale of heroic liberation one would expect to view in a Soviet propaganda film while speaking to veterans on Memorial Day 2008 is simply beyond the pale. Anyone with any real relation to the Holocaust would understand this is to be unacceptable. And anyone with any knowledge of World War II would know that it is false. People seriously believe this man should be Commander in Chief?
All of us attempt to render uninteresting anecdotes poignant, but many of us exercise a bit of discretion and historical fidelity when embellishing aspects of our autobiographies.
Obama does not understand veterans, the Holocaust, WWII, PTSD, trauma or the pain experienced by a community that literally had to start from zero in the wake of Hitler’s atrocities. For Obama to mobilize all this pain in order to gain the allegiances of veterans and of Jews convinces me that he is cynical, heartless and reckless. This is a man who I believe will do and say anything to become President. But even worse, he will traumatize us with any and all specters, real, fabricated or otherwise, in order to hoodwink and bamboozle us into submission.
Obama should either clarify his statements or issue an apology, for civilized human beings do not play politics with the most horrifying atrocity of documented Western history.
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I’m sure he didn’t do it on purpose.
But he needs to do some work on himself,on his history.
He needs to get himself a resumé. For someone who has not done much in his life as a politician he spends way too much time looking down on people and telling us what we should do.
Didn’t “do it on purpose?” So he did it accidently? That is an absurd comment. This casual misstating of actual historic events solely for the sake of personal gain is unforgivable. History teaches us what it means to be human. No one, be he ever so ignorant, has the right to alter our record of the past.
Oh yes that he did on purpose
He was counting on nobody noticing. Maybe he is right about his cultists, but the rest of us pay attention.
Don’t give him a free pass. He and his supporters, judging from the RFK flap, certainly don’t afford Clinton that luxury.
hope the fact that Obama doesn’t know better is no excuse. This man who colors his hair gray in order to look more mature and adds made up characters to his auto biography is a real sicko. He stands for nothing except winning and offers nothing to the masses except to allow them to worship him.
It’s time for Senator Clinton to speak up and call Obama out on this lie.
Only 6 articles have come out noting that this is a lie. CBS reported it and didn’t bother to get the facts (they had to get their kleenex first to clean themselves).
If Senator Clinton refuses to fight on this issue, then we’re in for a gloomy November. The last hope of the Democratic party must fight now.
Who was this uncle?
Wasn’t his mom the only child?
Perhaps a Kenyan uncle in the Red Army?
A Great Uncle……. a really really Great Uncle. A super terrific Russian Uncle
Uncle Vanya
Was Rev Wright the only male? This would mean he never went to war.
Does anyone have proof he was in the service like he claims?
“But one should be surprised that Barack Obama would in 2008, especially as his father was fighting on the Western front, not the Eastern front.”
Should read Grandfather.
no, it should read uncle, and i corrected it. he mentions his uncle.
His Kenyan Granfather Was in World War I as a cook for a British Officer. His American Grandfather fought on the western front in World War II.
Who is the mysterious “Uncle”? Barack has so many with no blood relation.
I’m suittin up…..getting ready for the Democrats to totally get their asses handed to them in the Presidential election. Lordy lordy help us! Can you hear McCain already……Wanna talk about how ugly real war can be Mr. Never Serve and you want talk about paying a price and having dedication during really really hard trying times Mr. Never Serve? It is going to be absolute shooting fish in a barrel.
Obama has no honest respect for military service either. He is completely disconnected from military reality and likes to stay that way. I can’t see that he has any sort of understanding of what it entails and 24/7 adherence to principles first, principles first, principles first. He tries on a new principle daily and that is his perrogative but damn, this guy is possibly our next CIC during these very trying military times and he is completely clueless?
Oops….prerogative. It didn’t look right so I looked it up and I need some spelling lessons.
But it sounds like perrogative – those pre vs per things that mess one up.
Obama has no respect for anyone but himself. He is shameful.
mccain won’t take well to bamy’s little fiction hour i don’t expect. well bamy needs to be shut down hard or expect these falsehoods to get bigger.
I’m sure he didn’t do it on purpose.
Nah. Of course not. But Hillary said ‘assassination’ on purpose! She’s white!
At least when she starts dog whistling history she has the players right.
He said it on purpose – he obviously knows how stupid some voters are, like his own supporters – so you betcha he threw that name out there. They’ll never care about a correction – he’s just pandering to the jews, this will hurt him, THEY are not stupid. Now is great uncle saved us from the nazis!! This better get legs and it better move.
i think most jewish voters know their history very well and won’t appreciate this. it says no respect period!
Ok now they have the Concentration Camp right — but I bet there is no uncle. Obama is to liar what steer is to steak. Its so harrrrrd for him to keep campaigning during this long primary season — just like the Bataan Death March he says where thousands of American soldiers died. Why sure BO my heartaches thinking of your suffering in that private plane taking you everywhere in the utmost comfort while providing you with the best meals. Yes its just like The Bataan Death March. Aren’t you glad you weren’t in that march. Bet you would have ratted everyone else out to curry favor with the Japs.
Jewish voters aren’t stupid and when you pander to them you better get your facts correct. No wonder they are not supporting him.
ROFLMAO
The “My Uncle helped to liberate Auschitz” line plays well with the highly educated, high-info intellectual elite voter. A lesser man might see right through it.
Well it sure isn’t playing well with me. But maybe that’s because I’m well educated and intellectual, but not elitist. . .
I don’t buy anything he says about anything. Just add this to the list.
I would rather be one of the dummies to sees through Obama than one of those Liberal elites who gets it wrong every time.
Wow. I’m stunned by his audacity. And sooooooooo depressed by it all……….
i am on lou show
i am gonna thank him
and i am gonna mention –larry johnson –noquarterusa–also
Wow. Unreported huh. sAD.
Obama, constant liar, all bullshit, all the time. He is disgusting. No way are you getting to the White House Obama, no way. Get it, now pack your happy ass up and get to Kenya with cousin Odinga. You fit perfectly in there you fascist pig.
I am just wondering which part of his family “Uncle”?
The story is now up on the widely read Wonkette and Fark humor sites, making fun of Obama:
http://wonkette.com/393487/obamas-uncle-takes-credit-for-communists-work
That’s funny! Gaffey McGaffealot Obama!
I made myself watch that. That’s quite a reach there Bambi. So…what was his point? Was he talking about today’s vets and PTSD or was he trying to reach out to the Jewish community? What a lazy ass. There are thousands of real PTSD cases from Iraq alone. Do a little research and pick one. Why try and ingratiate himself that way? God, he sickens me. I still can’t believe our so called DNC leaders found this moron inspiring. I get more inspiration from a feminine hygiene commercial.
did u guys hear me
i was on lou radio show
i am aisha
You were great. Very good points. Thank you.
were u listening
i never talk to anybody
but
this was first time ever —i was just mad
was i effective???
you rocked!!!
I am with the lady in the pants suit all the way to Denver and the White House baby!!
BOOYAH!!!
HILLYEAH!!!
thx
Is there a Podcast available? I missed it….
Links to the show are appreciated.
That’s so cool! Way to go!
You had the Indian accent?
Was that you?
good comments if it was you.
yes
that was me
aisha –
any audio available?
Not wishing to ruin your party and rain on your parade, but even Ben Smith of Politico, who’s normally kind of busy kissing Hillary’s rear, has posted a clarification on this story. As usual, Obama didn’t make anything up, the facts check out and you are all shouting at clouds!
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obamas_World_War_II_history.html#comments
Funny, everytime Barky fucks up, one of you guys has to show up here and either clear things up or smooth things over. WORM=What Obama Really Meant. So if barky gets to the white house, will there be a new WORM branch of the government? Marty, my love, you’ll have your hands full.
Buchenwald is not Auschwitz. And Buchenwald was liberated three months after Auschwitz. Obama cited Auschwitz, as that is the most notorious camp.
Visited Buchenwald when my husband was stationed in Germany. Bad place, very bad. Bambi should be popped in the gob for using the holocaust as a political ploy.
Can you imagine being Jewish and this idiot who wants to be the next idiot leader of the free world (because Bush wasn’t idiot enough) figures a concentration camp is a concentration camp is a concentration camp, and when you want to sound “credible” just pulling any old camp out of your hat will do? If your Great Uncle has seen one camp he’s seen em all – and if he was part liberating one camp well hell, he’s liberated em’all. Obama’s history is always fubar……..WTF. Most of his supporters can’t get the full history of shit straight either and they don’t even want to.
Tracy, this is what passes as an Ivy League educated person? Forget it. I’ll take my little community college, along with the years I back packed the world and throw in the years as a military spouse over Harvard anyday.
truthteller — because Obama doesn’t care if he gets it right. He wants to show his empathy — as if he has some. So whats the diff — one Concentration Camp is the same as another and Buchenwald skipped his mind. Give him a break — Messiahs are not used to pandering.
Auschwitz is not the Ohrduf camp though and if you are going to dog whistle the Holocaust and run against the many generations of military service McCain you can’t be an idiot about such things! But Obama is an idiot about such things!
r u obama,s watchdog??
we dare you to call LOU DOBBS SHOW —
go on air and give clarification ===ha ha ha ha
and by the way —-we trust our own sources
u don,t tell us where to look or read
Once again. Mr. Hope LIED and his cultists are trying to excuse it. Excuses, excuses, excuses. I’m sick of excuses. How does Auschwitz even begin to sound like Ohrduf? IT DOESN’T! The idiot LIED, again, and got caught.
yeah and who would expect a politician like Uhhbama to know the difference between the EASTERN FRONT AND WESTERN FRONT
after all Zbiegnew the “soviet union” antagonist is his adviser..Zbiegnew is all anti Russia and maybe that is why Uhhbama keeps calling it the Soviet Union all the time and saying Iran is not as big a threat as USSR was, and didnt we have Pershings lined up before we talked to them?
Uhhbama wants to CUT defense spending, SS and Medicare spending..(see CNBC interview with Maria Bartiromo)
uhmm how do we do that at war on 2 fronts, needing a military reset and with Boomers retiring?
I KNOW lets jack up payroll taxes 30% on the middle class! and privatize their benefits! and roll back defense spending cause hey we can sing kumbayah with all our enemies, Castro is with it so is Ahimidienjad!
great plan Barack!
NO NO NO and again NO NO NO
we are with Hillary all the way to Denver and the White House baby!!
Hillary will keep us safe and not tax us to death and ensure our SS is there when we need it..
HILL-A-REE
HILL-A-REE
HILL-A-REE
BOOYAH!!
HILLYEAH!!!
Obama ought to be really ashamed of himself..
How does he dare!! How does he dare being so disrespectful so caviller… What, uncle, great uncle, Auschwitz or Buchenwald, it doesn’t matter? Just another concentration camp??? He is a disgrace !!
This is unforgivable.
First Ben Smith is an Obama supporter. I have read his column daily.
Second, Obama has obfuscated the truth in his books and speeches and has always had to provide an explanation. Is it surprising that he is not believed?
Frankly, I believe he would make no mistakes regarding his father’s background with which he identifies. He has not researched his mothers to an equivalent degree and when visiting her roots did not recognize the house. He had not been there before.
Oh he lies a lot about his fathers background. Dear old dad is another “composite” of other relatives and political figures in his fictional autobiography.
The real Kenyan father? Not worth too much at all.
Too bad his uncle’s service wasn’t important enough to Barry to get the facts straight before he opened his pie hole …. when in doubt, the expression “concentration camp” might have sufficed. Ya think? Not for him, though. He just had to mention the one with the very worst reputation for cruelty. So now, he looks like the idiot that most of the people he was trying to impress already believe him to be …. hahahahahahahahahahaha …. that’s the part I love, you?
Then why did he come out with an apology this afternoon?
Martin — if the facts check out than Obama’s uncle was with the Russian Army. Nice real nice.
Give your support of Obama a rest. The guy is a loser. If you support him so are you.
i as mad —
i blamed obama for not stoping media for calling clintons racist
i talked about him calling everyone racist
i was telling him –how people been calling hillary –bitch—-
and firing a week later is too late
and i thanked him and —i mentionmed –larry johnson –noquarterusa,,,for fair coverage–
and now –i just e-mailed lou for taking my call
and i thanked him for his fair coverage
and i mentioned larry johnson again with this blog site address
yayyyyyyyyyy
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FOXNEWS picked this story up and is running with it as their political Lead story.
CNN now has it as the Lead story on Political Ticker
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/27/rnc-hits-obama-over-auschwitz-claim/
Looks like the RNC is getting involved now with it.
HERE WE GO BABY!!!!
W.O.R.M…..he really meant to say his Uncle helped liberate that OTHER death camp. He just misspoke. AGAIN.
This won’t touch him. Poor baby didn’t mean to say what he actually said….he meant to say something else! Leave him alone!!! Stop picking on Baby Bama!
Let’s face it. The guy is super dumb. No news there. He has no idea what he is saying ever. He always has been a shucking and jiving. This didn’t just start lately.
He clearly is NOT qualified to be president.
It’s a wonder he has a job at all. I think he is unemployable.
Can someone get him out of the race. We have all had a belly full and are sick and tired of his insanity.
He needs to bow out and apologize to America for inciting race divisions and lieing the us and tearing down women. Out of here bub.
I want this to stop now.
Can this stop now!~
we used to have presidents who won prizes and respect. gore, carter, kennedy come to mind. they have all written books and know/understand history. bami however is clueless.
I wonder if Obama was talking about his crazy Uncle who sometimes says crazy things that he doesn’t always agree with?
dumbass!
Oops, looks like Obama made CNN with it and soon we will be hearing from the McCain about it…. he’ll have a good chuckle for the cameras I’m sure.
Maybe McCain will send Lieberman out — he knows what Concentration Camp is what. Europe shivers as the US turns into Idiot’s Delight.
Candy Crowley just covered in on CNN and just said the story is true only it was a great uncle not and uncle and oops he got the camp wrong it was not Auswitz oops but he told the truth if you ignore the two lies within his story.
LOL!
Nothing he says is genuine, and Candy Crowley can take cover because she’s one of that fat as*es Obama blames for global warming. Maybe the Middle East will feel better if she goes on a diet.
Barky made himself look sloppy, lazy and disrespectful. Nice going there, Bambi! Just what we need running up against a guy who spent five friggin’ years as a POW. God in heaven, just shoot me now. We are so dead in November. I need a drink. I CAN’T FUCKING BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO RUN THIS TWAT AS OUR NOMINEE!!!!! I need a hug.
Wait a minute how do we know the uncle spent 6 months in the attic. Even Obama called if a family legend.
The man is a shameless whore.
Isn’t it ironic that his wink-wink endorser HAMAS said, on the day the Jews have their memoriam for the holocaust dead, that the Jews created the holocaust themselves to get rid of their weak.
Barack Obama, you are a vile, shameless, despicable piece of crap. If it were up to you and your pals, Israel would be blown to smithereens.
obama is a boob
Just like I said, it would be his great uncle in another place, once they found out a place they could cite instead.
“BO” doesn’t want two BIG states counted. “BO” doesn’t want to debate publicly. Coward “BO” wants to win by hiding the truth.
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It’s despicable. BO wants the nomination handed to him through the “affirmative action” of not counting MILLIONS of votes in two big Democratic states.
BO refuses to debate in NC, even though there have only been FOUR debates between him and Clinton (he deceitfully claims they have debated 21 times, but those include 6-candidate debates).
BO is disgustingly deceitful and cowardly. This guy doesn’t deserve to be anywhere near the White House
you were great aisha,
spot on,
and i loved how you got in the f word,
THANK YOU
I GET NERVOUS –I LOOSE WORDS
BUT I TRIED
THANKS —-
He did it on purpose : what a pig. I am furious about this; madly furious.
And if he didn’t then: shame on him !!!
How can he do this? How can he be so arrogant?
What? Who cares whether it was a concentration camp her or there??
I am enraged by this; truly enraged.
Thank you Truthteller for bringing it up on a post.
I have been mad all day since I heard about it.
so careless with such issue:
Was it the same speech where Obama said he saw dead people? Two gaffes, one speech.
Reminds me of GWB, how ’bout you?
notice how frequently this is happening. maybe bambi is in free fall.
Very good point – Auschwitz is well known. He was deliberately pandering a very serious issue, with no regard for the accuracy of what he was claiming.
Now he looks feckless (yet again), and more importantly, disinterested in the history of the Holocaust. Good luck with those Jewish voters.
I always go back to Karl Rove’s depiction of Obama: TOO ARROGANT TO DO HIS HOMEWORK.
Has Anybody Noticed What Has Happened?
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The so called democratic party has been taken over by corporate liberals. The republican party is controlled by conservative liberals. They are coke and pepsi both controlled by corporations. Who is there police force? The media. The media protects corporations from being critiqued are reigned in. Hillary is trying to do this and look what has happened to her. The middle class conservative or liberal have all been left out of this. This is how badly SOME people got douped. They have nothing in common with upper class liberals! Hillary must stay in it, she’s the only voice of the middle class. London banks, goldman sachs love Obama, he represents a manifestation of corporate control from other countries. Hang on tight this is going to get rougher. Can someone say Hillary and Lou Dobbs…mmmmmm.
I’m sorry – there’s something here I just don’t understand. I was under the impression Barry was Jewish? No?
If things get bad enough for BO he will have himself circumcised. The guy will do anything for attention.
Maybe is was the crazy Uncle Rev Wright?
You’d think Michelle would’ve been really proud of her country when Barack first told her of his Uncle’s helping to liberate this camp.
HOLY COW.
Obama Fabricates Uncle’s liberation of Auschwitz to pander to both veterans and jews.
IT’S ALL OVER THE RIGHT WING BLOGS
IT’S THE LEAD STORY ON FOXNEWS POLITICAL SECTION
IT’S ON CNN’s POLITICAL TICKER
BUT
Is it sending Tingles up any of the legs of the So Called Newsmen aka Obamaidiots at MSNBC?
Is it anywhere on that shitskid of a site Huffington Post?
Is it anywhere on that Huffington Post wannabe Politico.com?
HELL NO!
Can you spot the in the tank media?
Can these people ever be trusted to actually report the news fairly ever again?
OH I almost forgot to Mention the In the tank Drudge aka Sludge. not on there either.
I see a Republican TV Commercial in the making on this one.
No, obviously some blogs that purport to be news-oriented are not. They are PR blogs for Obama.
Nothing more.
Does this surprise you? They got rid of Hillary supporters awhile ago. If you’re even allowed to post there, believe me……you’re a token to pretense.
So, Obambi can use the Jewish Holocaust when it serves his need, but his supporters claim Jews are practicing McCatheyism when they don’t buy into the larger message: Israel is a sore, an open wound. Oh no, that’s not what he meant. How foolish of me. The situation is the sore, the festering wound. How could I get that wrong??
This makes me feel sicker and sicker. He and his supporters have no shame. Use Robert Kennedy’s assassination to assassinate the character of Senator Clinton, and then two-face the Jewish constituency. And expect their vote? That’s roughly 7 million people. Well, they’re not all Democrats. And what the hell, they don’t need them anyway. Or any of us [I'm straight from the blue-collar, Catholic brigade]. Female, too. And guess what? I actually have a university degree; I can think and chew gum at the same time.
Dream on Obambi!
Makes me think they threatened Hill.
After all, they accused her of everything they are guilty of. Makes sense to me.
I hope to hell they’re checking out the validity of this “uncle” story. It wouldn’t surprise me if he made the whole thing up.
I don’t know if the media is checking the story, but internet people are. Why is it politicians seem to be the only ones who can’t understand that nothing can be kept hidden anymore. Somebody somewhere is watching or recording. You see it all the time, oh I never said that, and within hours here come the videos of the idiot saying ‘that’.
Presidents Unfit To Serve – According To Senator Tom Harkin
On Sunday Senator Harkin (D-Iowa) assisted the Iowa Republican Party by designing a campaign ad for them. On Memorial Day Weekend the Senator insulted our serving Men & Women, John McCain, and dozens of former leaders of this great nation.
Senator Harkin commented:
“It’s one thing to have been drafted and served, but another thing when you come from generations of military people and that’s just how you’re steeped, how you’ve learned, how you’ve grown up.”
Harkin continued “there’s nothing wrong with a career in the military…but now McCain is running for a higher office. He’s running for commander in chief, and our Constitution says that should be a civilian. And in some ways, I think it would be nice if that commander in chief had some military background, but I don’t know if they need a whole lot.”
Under Senator Harkin’s view of presidential qualifications, the below listed presidents never should have served.
Commanding General George W. Washington
2nd Lieutenant James Monroe
Major General Andrew Jackson
Major General William H. Harrison
Volunteer John Tyler
Major General Zachary Taylor
Brigadier General Franklin Pierce
Private Abraham Lincoln
Brigadier General Andrew Johnson
Commanding General Ulysses S. Grant
Major General Rutherford B. Hayes
Major General James A. Garfield
Quartermaster General Chester A Arthur
Brigadier General Benjamin Harrison
Major William McKinley
Lt. Colonel Theodore Roosevelt
1st Lieutenant Harry S. Truman
Commanding General Dwight D. Eisenhower
Commander John F. Kennedy
Commander Lyndon B. Johnson
Lt. Commander Richard Nixon
Lt. Commander Gerald R. Ford
Lt. Commander Jimmy Carter
Lt. George HW Bush
12 of our 43 presidents have risen to the rank of General, 25 of our 43 presidents have served in the military, most coming from proud family background of service. Senator Harkin himself was drafted, although never serving in a combat zone. His remarks were squarely aimed at defining John McCain as a war-mongering dictator and in the process he insulted 230 years of American Heritage.
I guess the new qualification for the presidency is the gentleman Senator from Illinois who made this statement:
“I didn’t serve as many people my age because Vietnam was over by the time I was of draft age and you know we had then moved to an all volunteer army… ”
http://www.politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/05/presidents-unfit-to-serve-according-to.html
um, he isn’t in the service now so he is a civilian. geez how dumb are these people?
May 27, 2008 – CNN.com – Obama supporters planning DNC counter-protest
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http://www.politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com…est/#more-7362
Quote:
The move comes days after backers of Hillary Clinton’s White House run announced plans to converge on the Washington, D.C. hotel where members of the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee are meeting.
Ok, the more people now the better to show up. I’m sure they will try and flood to show they have more support than we do.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
Well only Marxists would protest the counting of Democratic votes. Figures. What are they going to say, DON’T COUNT THEIR VOTES JUST COUNT OURS?
Maybe they’ll chant “the rulz are the rulz” and then the DNC can enforce the rulz:
The pledge to not campaign = zero fl votes ob
removed name from ballot = zero mi votes ob
zero to barky and count clinton’s legal votes.
rulz are the rulz.
I would say that this was Obama’s “sniper” moment. But then someone would accuse me of promoting his assassination.
Obama never has been one to put much faith in facts. To him they are just a part of the tapestry, woven to fit the mood or the occasion.
Read Truthteler update above.
But it doesn’t matter; it changes nothing. They actually made it much worse from where I stand.
Oops, I was trying to reply to someone else; I forget who’s comment now.
Village idiot with a degree from Harvard.
If Harvard any sense they’d claim Barky never went there.
Also can you imagine him making the same sort of screw-ups with Castro, Lil’Kim, Achimajinidad(sp?) of Iran and the foreign policy disaster that would ensue?
He terrifies me.
I concur with you – he seems very incompetent and full of potentially dangerous blunders and yet wants to have direct talks with notorious military leaders? Too scary – remember when JFK tried it and Khruschev threatened to “bury” us? and his campaign seems just as militant and idiotic – seeing as to how they’ve managed to alienate the core members of the party.
was not fox talking about OPRAH TOO????
WHAT DID THEY SAY??
I MISSED IT
So now that Candy Crowley has made Sweetie’s boo-boo all okay again, are we not going to see this on the running chyron on CNN for the next 3 days like we did with Hillary? Aren’t we going to see this over and over again, but without WORM, just the chyron “Obama lies about Uncle saving Auschwitz” over and over again? Of course not.
OT
I feel bad I’ve been after barky about his Oregon Great Lake stoner moment and it turns out he may have been wright.
He’s all about hope and change. Well the back of the Oregon state quarter has Crater Lake on it. Maybe he was scraping together some quarters to buy some crack and saw that and it got stuck in his brain.
omg , lol
I just had to let you know how funny you are
(May 25, 2008) BO wants Bill to heal Hillary Clinton wounds (TimesOnline)
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First they throw Bill under the bus and then they say:
Quote:
“If anybody can put their arms around the party and say we need to be together, it is Bill Clinton,” a senior Obama aide said.
“He’s brilliant, he has got heart and he cares deeply about the country. It’s tricky because of his position as Hillary’s spouse, but his involvement is very important to us.
“Bill Clinton will give permission to Hillary supporters to come into our camp and become one party. He is critical to this effort.”
Don’t come from under there for them Bill….
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new…cle3998946.ece
I SAW THIS ON HILLFORUM –PASTING IT HERE
WARNING
WARNING
WARNING
NOT A POSITIVE ARTICLE
NOT A POSITIVE ARTICLE
BUT JUST TO POINT OUT THE NEW OBAMA SPIN —-
People: better start writing to HRC and ask
to stop this nonsense; dispell any notion
WJC will ever to do this.
Write to her through her website !!
HRC will be our Democratic nominee: yes she will !!
People: better start writing to HRC and ask
to stop this nonsense; dispell any notion
WJC will ever do this.
Write to her through her website !!
HRC will be our Democratic nominee: yes she will !!
Bill is in no mood. He never mentions Obama on the Stump. OUT OF SIGHT OUT OF MIND.
He doesn’t pay any attention to what Obama needs.
The absolute GALL of the Obama campaign to call for Clinton’s help, after they spent months trashing his legacy and painting him as a racist!!
You gotta be kidding me.
Axelrod, rot in hell. WITHOUT ANY HELP.
Gall is the word for Obama. First he trashes Hillary for being a racist then he offers her 25 Mill to pay off her campaign debts if she would get out of the race–Now he thinks Bill should come to his rescue so that he get the nomination he deserves. Cause of course everything revolves around BO.
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Is anyone able to attempt to verify this explanation from the obama camp? can we find out where his so called great uncle actually was during the time period in questiion and if/when this subcamp of buchenwald was liberated if he in fact was with the troops who did it? I trust nothing from these people anymore. They keep moving the truth goalpost.
This is coming from the CNN ticker story here:
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/27/rnc-hits-obama-over-auschwitz-claim/
Just saw a very saavy Repub strategist on Fox News deliver a direct blow to Obambi.
Just a prelude of things to come.
OMG DID YOU ALL SEE IT?????
Someone needs to give Joan Walsh a dozen stars and a BIG HUGE HUG
She just BLASTED some ahole on Matthews show just now. She also gave Chris hell!!!
OMG she warned him that dems would sit home in NOV if this continues
she said over and over how OUTRAGEOUS the way they are treating Hillary!
I LOVE HER!!! JOAN YOU ROCK!!
Again, those with clout need to BEGIN TO COME OUT IN DROVES AND SPEAK UP AGAINST THIS DANGEROUS CANDIDATE obama
come to the aid of the party
this can’t wait.
Rewriting history is way too cool.
“He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.”———–George Orwell
Obama is not the Manchurian Candidate, he is the Protean Candidate
Sometimes Lonesome Jones, sometimes JFK, sometimes Malcolm X
and now Winston Smith.
What rough beast next slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?
You must find the tape of that!!!!
I would like to watch that fight each morning when I get up……….. to get me revved up!
It was OUTSTANDING
I was in my office with TV going on Fox (Can’t stand any other network)and I may stop lisiting to them also after what I just hear.
B
Me, too. It’s ridiculous. Who are these pundits and how do they get their jobs? They sound utterly offensive. The RFK statement was showing the dark side of Hillary? What is that? Then ask two Obama supporters if they are getting calls from people demanding Hillary drop out. This media spin is out of control and never ending. I will only be watching Lou Dobbs, O Reilly and Hannity & Colmes
Why are we surprised?
BO said his birth was inspired by the march on Selma, Alabama. He was born before the march took place.
He said his father was brought to America by John F. Kennedy. Actually, Eisenhower was president at the time but Kennedy sounded better (I guess — or he doesn’t know his presidents).
He said he didn’t sign a gun control questionnaire with his handwriting all over it.
He said he barely knew William Ayers though his first campaign was launched in Ayers’ living room and he (BO) served on the Board of an organization founded by Ayers for years.
He said he was essentially deaf whenever in church for some 20+ years.
I won’t be surprised to hear tomorrow that HE, not Al Gore, invented the Internet.
Obama is in deep trouble as it seems McCain will attack Obama on his lack of actual military experience (Obama never served), as well as Obama’s naivety and lack of foreign policy knowledge (his appeasement strategy and meeting with no pre-conditions). Just imagine what they are going to be able to do to Obama when they were able to turn McGovern, Gore, and Kerry (all men who actually served in the military, and with valor) into unpatriotic wimps.
McCain may have awful policy ideas and is another disguised neocon, but one thing you can’t deny is that he was an honorable and courageous man – he even refused being released as a POW early because he wanted others who had been there longer to get to go home first. This was why they started torturing him really badly – because before then they treated him well as he came from a distinguished military family and had higher status than others serving.
I don’t see how Obama is gonna to win once the Repubs are done with him. And I understand Obama was just trying to relate to the veterans with this story – but he needs to understand that just as he doesn’t want us to use his associations with notorious individuals to judge him, family bravery from such distant generations is not very effective as in the end – it’s not you, Obama – or even someone directly close to you.
Did you hear how McCain taunted Obama by asking if Obama wanted to tag along to see Iraq, of which Obama has never been? I can just see more of these subtle attacks on Obama’s lack of experience coming. McGovern-sized loss all over again.
Obama must be stopped
I just head William Armstrong and Stephine Miller saying awful, horrible things about Hillary. Armstrong was calling her distrusting disgusting he talked about Robert Kennedy it was shameful. We must stop the maddeness.
Do we really know if this great-uncle exists, if he really served in WWII, and if he really was part of the American forces that liberated Buchenwald?
It wasn’t his uncle it was his great uncle. It wasn’t the Eastern front but the Western front. It wasn’t Auschwitz it was Buchenwald. Do these two names sound even vaguely alike?
Keep digging.
Wait…do we even have any factual confirmation that his uncle was present in that division when it liberated that camp that wasnt Auschwitz? Or are we just taking his word for it like his claim that he was born because of Selma but just a few years early because his parents were psychic…
Hey Everyone!
I just got an email from Chelsea. She wants everyone to go over to Hillary.com and vote for Hillary’s new T-Shirt!
Thanks!
I voted for #5 the Hillary with all the states.
but I also liked #4, the PA quote about the win being for everybody who’s ever been counted out…
We also voted for #5 but it would depend on who it’s for. Woman or Man, young or old, etc.
His halting presentation when he does not enjoy the benefit of a teleprompter reminds me of the current occupant of the Oval Office.
STOP THE MADNESS
STOP THIS MAN.
NOW IS NOT TOO SOON!
STOP HIM NOW!
THE GAME IS OVER FOR HIM.
STOP BLAMING HILLARY FOR HIS PROBLEMS.
STOP IT!
Since I can’t stand listening to the motherfucker’s voice, can someone please explain how Obama offended female vets in his speech? I feel like this story needs some airtime because it is being covered up by the “I see dead people in the audience” and “Auchwitz” lies/gaffes.
Didn’t Obama have enough time to correct this lie if he were so inclined?
I thought that he had delivered a similar tall tale in 2002 during his Iraq War speech?
It goes way beyond pandering and straight to “damned lie” territory.
He’s trying to cover the Jewish vote…
He’s not doing well in FL and we all know how important Florida is. Will the media run with this? I doubt it.
Obama said he saw dead people
It was the ghost of Obama future that made this possible.
And he is not done yet.
well axel told bamy he needed some creds, so bamy went and wrote some creds. i suppose since it worked so well in his books, he figured he’d give it a try on the campaign. trail. after all we are stupid bitter hicks.what do we know? i happened to do a major research project on that very subject in school, bamy. geez, when will this shix stop!
I feel that the only reason they want the new ‘creative’ people is because they don’t know the ‘history’ of anything. They can make it up as they go.
What I want to say is this:
The older I get, the smarter my Mom and my Dad get. Does anyone else see this?
I also feel that a new party wouldn’t be a bad idea. We can call it something like the ‘American Citizens Party.’ It would be kind of hard to diss the American Citizen, now wouldn’t it? Something to think about. Then the ‘new’ Democrat Party would just disappear, and maybe ‘they’ would learn something.
Just a thought.
On top of the fact that no one had knowledge of this Great Uncle before, I found another problem with Obama’s Auschwitz story and his explanation to fix it.
He said it was his Great Uncle and it was a different camp but here’s my problem (This is in Obama’s words). If in telling the story that his Grandfather has heard about Auschwitz, wouldn’t he have also mentioned that uncle in the same story…wouldn’t that have increased it’s effectiveness? So, why not include it?
Obama previously stated his maternal grandfather fought in World War II under legendary U.S. Army General George S. Patton, but he said his grandfather only “heard” stories of the liberation of Auschwitz:
“My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain,” Obama said in a 2002 anti-war speech.
Wait, didn;t he claim in his book that his grandfather returned from world war 2 never having seen nor been involved in any actual fighting???????
I find it obscenely fascinating to watch Obama pull his ‘white’ relatives out of his designated discarded shitcan when he desires to use them for his political gain. Its massively entertaining in a disgusting kind of way.
all right you guys/gals, listen up. bamy was concerned. that’s right he was thinking about all of us. there was just no more room under that bus. none, nada, zip! so he is now sending them to the attick. there’s more room there.
lmao.
Save me a spot on the floor by the window!
Obama never apologizes for anything. He only makes twisted, distorted excuses and covers his @ss. He is the Eddie Haskell of politics. Deliberate and sneaky with a phony exterior of good will and innocence.
i was watching tv last night and an author was being interviewed about a book on the life of raymond burr. it seems that burr led a double life. i knew about that already and understand his desire for privacy. but burr also made up two dead wives and a dead son too. it appears that the lives they make up is more interesting that their real lives.
Finally got it downloaded – this is awesome.
Barry is so used to Chris matthews, Keitho, etc. singing his praises he’s gotten cocky and thinks he can call out Lou Dobbs without getting called on it.
Lou Dobbs is the MAN, and I mean MAN.
I’ve already sent an email to Dobbs,
thank him, thank him!
What’s Dobbs’ email address?
What’s particularly weird is that he just finished up making a complete fool of himself by saying Bush shouldn’t mention the holocaust, except Bush used the reference appropriately for his audience.
I felt like I was caught in Blogland, where usually a reference to Hitler means the person has launched into la-la land and lost the debate! But in Israel? Different.
The man is a disaster. I wonder if his supporters have an inkling of just how much of a disaster he really is?
The glow of his great campaign is about to wear off. They may never recover from the shock of the reality.
Are there PSTD benefits for political hostages who finally figure out they’ve been duped?
Are there PSTD benefits for political hostages who finally figure out they’ve been duped?
Hillary has vowed to end Bush’s war on science.
The first thing the scientists should work on is a cure for obamamania. Lawd we need an anti-dote.
i am hearing something the distance. what is it? it sounds like twilight zone music. it is, it is! hmmm, bambi is taking all of us with him. no, no i won’t go. i’ll hold on to that pole, you can’t have me bambi. there that feels better. a little snort/snark after a bad day fixes a lot.
It makes me so sick that he is trying to pander to not only the military veterans but Jews as well. Obama is the most uninspiring man ever. If he is not reading off a teleprompter, he stinks!
I hope this tangential comment won’t get me thrown off the site just as my blogging here begins. But must we always bash the Soviets a bit? My husband is a Hungarian (a 56er) and knows the system well. But the Russians fought heroically in WWII and the populace suffered in ways I can hardly imagine.
As for BO, this is exactly what I would expect from him.
I have always had the highest respect for the Red Army and the Russian people in the Great Patriotic War.
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Unbelievable, that this man wants to be President of the United States. He is a sham. What he knows about foreign affairs is zilch. There is no way we can we can put him in the oval office. Eight years of one idiot is enough. I hope this matter has legs. How many more people can he offend. I’m not sure if there are many left.
OT: Does anyone know if Air America, Ed Schultz, and Stephanie Miller are bombing. I stopped listening about 2 months ago, and I pray they will all go down. They are disgusting, and certainly don’t represent my views anymore. Does anyone know if their ratings have gone down?
I liked Number one — Hillary was for Healthcare before it was cool.
I’m starting to doubt if Obama really studied in Harvard. Maybe he just went there for some seminars so he can used the name “Harvard” in his resume. He’s another Bush or worse than Bush. Telling lies. Making up stories.