Barack’s Hallelujah Moment?
By Larry Johnson on May 31, 2008 at 5:15 PM in Barack Obama, Father Michael Pfleger, Race, Race Card, Religion, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., Rev. Otis Moss
Praise the Lord he’s seen the light? After 20 years of apparently sleeping thru Jeremiah Wright’s hatefilled, racist sermons, Barack is calling it quits. Does this include Michelle and the kids? No word yet. Will the kids still be subjected to this hate?
A burning question is why is Barack doing this now? Could it be that since there are no more primaries in states with significant numbers of African Americans he can throw those folks away? Let’s pause to recall what Barack had to say about his church. He spread this brochure throughout the South:
Remember when he said he could not disown Jeremiah?
I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
But he did. He tossed away Jeremiah Wright.
Barack told us that “words matter.” We believe him. That is why we remember his words about his new young Pastor?
SEN. OBAMA: Well, you know, the new pastor — the young pastor, Reverend Otis Moss, is a wonderful young pastor.
And as I said, I still very much value the Trinity community.
This — I’ll be honest, this obviously has put strains on that relationship, not because of the members or because of Reverend Moss but because this has become such a spectacle.
I guess we can be sure of one thing. Barack is not a bitter man. Or, at least not a bitter white working class stiff. He surely is not clinging to his religion (and I don’t know about guns).
So where does he go? I guess Michael Pfleger’s Catholic parish is out of the question. Probably should add Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam to that list. Maybe he’ll decide to do with black liberation theology what he has done with cigarettes–publicly swear it off but sneak it on the side.
This does not put to bed the legitimate questions about Barack’s judgment in hanging with this group of haters. Do you remember when he warned black audiences in the South that they were being bamboozled and hoodwinked. Well, he was right. But it turns out he was the bamboozler and hoodwinker in chief. And this is change we should believe in? Suckers!!
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he’s disloyal! and a quitter!
(wish he would quit campaigning, too)
This is a transparent political GIMMICK!
But the mainstream media will buy it and say it is over as an issue.
Oh no they won’t.
You can bet McCain and the republicans are going to hit it big, but from the angle that proves what a lying hypocrit Obama is.
Obama got a $100,000 EARMARK for Father Pfleger’s church. That directly contradicts several Obama stands:
Earmarks
Special Interests and his return favors
Father Pfleger, I hardly knew ye
He doesn’t get to end it with this patronizing move.
Isn`t convenient that Father Phlegm came out so it would give him a chance to leave the church. This phony can`t fool me for a minute.
Isn`t it convenient that Father Phlegm came out so it would give him a chance to leave the church. This phony can`t fool me for a minute.
Obama’s press conference statement does not make sense. It is internally inconsistent and defends TUCC. I agree it is a political gimmick only after all the big AA states have voted.
Wow, after all this, he quits the church now??? I mean, why not before the campgain? At this point, for campaign purposes he this accomplishes NOTHING. And this makes his chuch, the fact that he would back stab his church, makes it more of a liability…
Just wow, I didn’t think it was possible for me to respect someone less than Bush…
Can there be any doubt that there are more embarrassment to come from Trinity?
He is trying to distance himself for the sh*t storm on the horizon.
Any doubt that he uis a weasel of the first order should now be erased. For anyone not consuming “The One” Kool-Aid, that is.
I was just talking with a friend about the fact that Axelrod was grossly negligent not to have seen this coming. Even Karl Rove had the sense to have Bush distance himself from the far right in the Texas Republican party when he was preparing to run. I remember reading that Bush skipped a big meeting (something like the state Republican convention)because they were so extreme and Rove knew that Bush needed to look more mainstream. What the heck is wrong with Axelrod that he did not get Obama to distance himself back when Obama ran for the Senate?
Or at least pay off Pfleger, Meeks and Wright to keep a lid on it through the primary season. Make monthly payments and threaten to withhold if they fall out of line.
Check out the article here on St. Sabin’s. Axelrod is just as much a part of this as ob.
Ax didn’t throw it under the bus and nobody believes ob did either.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that gig by the goodly Father was another ’staged’ production to allow for this very ‘exit’ from the Trinity stage.
Possibly, he was given an outline of the desired outcome, and all he had to do was choose from any of his favourite themes and deliver. His abrupt ending, and sudden recollection of the danger he was putting the Church in, was unbelievable, to say the least.
It is clear that the machiavellian approach to this whole campaign has built-in tactics to counter any potentially deadly event. On the other hand, they will themselves build into the design, deadly tactics to meet their ends, by any means necessary, as they see fit.
It’s like a war that being waged on every possible level. Too much is at stake, clearly.
The mistake is to believe their lying words and trust their shameless faces.
Yes, this is a very complicated, difficult
parasite to untangle oneself from, as it has been at work within the bowels of the party for sometime. And may have built nests outside as well.
Only those who have faced real guerrilla tactics, or read about them, or studied truly deceptive, power-hungry characters, and who understand that there are those who will camouflage their real intent, by using apparently innocent looking practices of the average law-abiding, civil group, will be able to fully see through these ploys.
That means that most of us at this site, have lots more work to do…..educating….as the info slowly trickles out.
Keep the faith, the Cause is more than worthwhile!!
Sheesh, first he throws the grandmother that raised him under the bus, than Wright, now the entire church, it’s new pastor and his friend the priest he got all those earmarks in congress for … isn’t opportunism an interest thing?
Watch out Michelle! If there is a whitey tape, and it does come out … I’d be in search of a REALLY good divorce lawyer!
The AA community bet on the wronnnnnng horse.
A TROJAN hourse.
** horse **
I wish his dad had used a Trojan.
Good one!
ROFLOL!
Not all in the AA community. I met quite a few smart AAs at the Hillary office in Portland, flew there on their own dime.
yes and there are AAs here on this site I am an African American who has no attention of drinking koolaid not now not ever
He now needs to court the white side of himself. He thinks he’s got the AA vote already sewn up tight.
The biggest casuality out of all this will be the faith in the process of democracy.
Frankly, I think affirmative action and the AA community are going to be the losers here … I think there’s going to be a backlash to all of this and it’s not going to be pretty. I just would like to hope this wouldn’t be the case but I think it will.
Unfortunately, there will be collateral damage in the Precious Campaign; affirmative action, will, at a minimum, be seriously undermined.
Agree with you.
There WILL be a backlash. In November GE, on affirmative action, on “improving” race relations, on trusting the DNC.
Backlash. BIG TIME.
He dodged a question in the the 2nd Philly debate re. Affirmative Action. That takes a lot of gall considering he and Michele both benifited from it just a few short years ago.
yes its going to be at least 20 years before a black man will be allowed to run again in the Democratic Party expecially with the case of the whip azz he is going to get in November I see a lot of RED in his future.
Amen.
Please join me on Nov 4 for the tossing of BO under the bus. He should meet a lot of old friends there.
They should be realllllly happy to greet him, eh?
You’re counting Hillary out?
I’m not.
no I am not counting Hillary out She’s no quitter
Amen to that!
Yup. He’s from Chicago politics all right.
where dead people and hypothetical voters get to vote, and Quitters get to win by stealing things in back rooms…
Barack has just given another huge advantage to the GOP. This is breathtaking. The Democratic Party was a literal shoe-in for victory with Bush at his lowest ratings. Yet the kamikazi Obama people ran a totally scorched Earth strategy and slimed both Bill and Hillary Clinton as if they were some kind of child molesters.
Now the GOP is celebrating because they have their victory guaranteed. When the GOP uses every dirty trick in the book, “hope” is not going to win a campaign. Hillary had guts, stamina, and fight in her. Obama has only a weak smile and some flowery language. We are screwed for another 4 years. Thanks Obama freaks.
“When the GOP uses every dirty trick in the book”
At this point they just have to show up.
McCain isn’t even trying and he’s beating barky in the polls.
I agree. The GOP won’t need to use voter suppression and vote fraud this time. They won’t even need to slander Plastic Jesus. They will only need to tell the truth about him.
WTF is wrong with the Democratic Establishment?
I disagree.
In fact, I think should Clinton win, she has shown herself to be intellectually superior to the republican and Obama troll boys, and their methods.
Either way she is superior, but don’t tell them.
Guys like Jonathan Singer, and the republican ops might crash.
That is right. Another few months – Obama saying that he never heard Michelle make statements like that. “I can no more disown her…..”
Obama is an idiot. This is like handing the GOP candy. Their next commercial will now point out how he never had any true faith and was willing to turn his back on his lifelong spiritual community in order to score political points. In fact, this is right out of the Bible. They will pull the quotes from the Bible that specifically condemn such a calculated political move in renouncing our faith in favor of some material gain. I’m almost ready to believe Obama is some kind of shill set up by the GOP.
If I worked for the GOP, I’d use what you suggest. Very powerful stuff. I’m loving this!
The GOP has already been suggesting that he never had any true faith. On Fox, when the second wave of Rev. Wright at the Press Club footage came out, the Republicans said that if it was true that Obama never heard or saw any of this while he was a member of the church, that must mean he hardly attended church and declared membership only to attract voters. The Obama campaign says that whenever we (Hillary supporters) say something about Sweetie that it’s just fuel for the Republicans, but trust me, the GOP is more cunning and evil than we could ever hope to be. They’ve been cooking up their strategy for a LONG time, hoping that Sweetie will be our nominee.
Breaking news **** just got word that Obama is joining my synagogue (-:
lol- He made them promise that everyone will be searched for electronic recording devices upon entering. He just can’t take the chance of a visiting radical rabbi.
Lisa … you made my day …. the idiots in Washington may totally not see what pandering looks like when it is in practice, but we get it. WE GET IT … We Will Remember in November …. so will the people he is now turning his back on …
I think he may go back to the mosque.
1) Because there is more to come out of his church !!
2) Black voters got used……..that’s the only he stayed at the church till now.
3) I bet his wife slamming whitey is true
What’s quite interesting is Drudge’s total silence on this. He is usually the first to post some bizarre picture of Hillary or lesbian rumor about her. Yet this is MAJOR news from Obama, and Drudge is quiet as a mouse. How fascinating.
Drudge is in the tank so deep for Oblahblah.
Please that site is bought and paid for obama shiller.
He STILL has not apologized to Hillary.
She needs to stay in for the Convention.
Who knows what other shoes may drop.
I’d like to see her launch a GE campaign on Wed!
I dont know, Obama looks kinda crazy.
Hillary isn’t goofy, like Obama, just because guys like Rove and Axlerod buy into the BS of amatuer psy ops marketing, Clinton shouldn’t.
It makes the boys look unstable.
Cmon, the guy declared himself the victor before the votes were counted to DISCOURAGE Clinton and her supporters, he looks like a kook, kind of like Cheney, and 4th branch.
Stable, serious people don’t do things of this sort, only Hollywood starlets, desperate for attention.
We still have a body of law that the majority of us recognize, even if Axelrod, and guys like Rove are out of touch, and none too bright in peddling their candidates.
It’s a government, not a circus, and not the Sky Bar.
More interesting news: Lynn Sweet of the Sun Times says Axelrod had been making a vidso documentary about Pfleger.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/05/pfleger_a_headache_for_obama_a.html
New kids’ song:
Wonderful news! Looks like Obama has won in every way today!
are u deranged?
Don’t talk to it, it’s busy licking itself.
Ha!!!!!!!!!! Very funny stuff.
Stop it, Strawberry, my sides hurt from laughing!
New kids’ song:
The wheels on Barack’s bus go round and round, round and round, round and round . . .
lolol
uh oh…”Joshua” Obama has thrown over 8,000 of his fellow parishioners under the bus all at once…
NEW WORLD RECORD!
what a fraud and punk.
Can you imagine if it was he – not McCain as a POW in Hanoi? He’d have sold out ALL his comrads…on day one.
Yep, totally agree.
this whole process has to sadden everyone… the fix is in… the party is corrupt… somebody’s god please bless these divided states of America !
Where has Michelle Obama been lately? Do you think Axelrod knows the Whitey video is real and is keeping her away from reporters who will ask her exactly that: did you stand up in Church and rail against Whitey, Michelle? Did you?
Betcha Axelrod thinks if he can just secure the nomination for his boy Barack, then he can fix everything else between now and November.
He only has the best interests of the Democratic Party at heart, of course.
She’s probably locked in the attic next to BO’s uncle.
The GOP slim guys are HOPING like hell that she is kept out of view UNTIL after Mr Teflon is crowned and the Democratic Party finds the Edsel has 84 month payments and NO warrentee . . . .
That we know this about him and still the DNC is in process of ruling for him right now is beyond my grasp.
Can someone please tell me why the TUCC still is seen as a tax exempt entity? The blatant disrespect of the separation of church and state, and campaigning from the pulpit is stunning. Why is the government not intervening?
The TUCC is being investigated by the IRS
I’m convinced that church is out to, and will finish him off.
Remember: despite his Islamic name, his personal support for an Islamic ethnic group in Kenya, and his pledge in his own autobiography that “when things get ugly, I will stand with the Muslims,” Barack Obama is actually a committed, believing Christian, blah blah blah…
maybe it was a sham afterall…
Which part?
I have a new idea for Hillary after Tues: go on a book reading tour…that’s right…travel ’round the country reading from Obama’s books.
Maybe that would wake up the country.
There is so much sh*t in there Michelle Malkin, Dobbs, Rove and the Republicans don’t do it justice!
His comment, “…not because of the members or because of Reverend Moss but because this has become such a spectacle” sounds like he still isn’t repentant of his sins.
His sins…God forgives sins…me, my husband, my family, friends, neighbors, co-workers, they don’t.
Barack has a real problem. I wish him well.
Bring on McCain! I’ll take him any day. Gentleman, war-hero, smart, dedicated, selfless, moderate, a true uniter. That’s what I want.
Let’s start working for McCain. I’d be OK with that. The Democratic party needs an overhaul.
If McCain chooses someone like Olympia Snowe or Sarah Palin to run with him, and Obama wins the Democratic nomination, I’ll not only campaign for McCain, I’ll send him cash. BTW, check out the date that the Democratic nominee is scheduled to make the acceptance speech at the convention and then check out the date that MLK made his “I Have a Dream Speech”. Coincidence?
Anybody listening to these Obama animals yelling and screaming and scaring the shit out of everybody?
I’m not afraid of a bunch of kids hopped up on high fructose corn syrup. (And I know you aren’t either, Uppity.)
Think about it, these kids didn’t grow up being allowed to play dodge ball because it was too violent, trophies and medals were handed to them just because they showed up and their mommies won’t let the play rough sports because they might get hurt. Blech. And they think they can take on McCain who was tortured for 5 years…this is gonna be fun.
MY sane half asks ” How do you resign from a church?!”
Obama’s kid; Stinky daddy why are we not going to our church anymore?
Obama; Well daughter of mine, I can’t be beleived if I don’t throw my church under the bus.
Obama’s kid; What bus?
So Senator Clinton was correct when responding to the “incident” of rev wrights racist propaganda.
“If that was my church I would have left.”
Now BO I can say you did not “walkout” on your own judgement what little of it you have. Do you think you can “hide it from the kids?”
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/05/obama_resigns_from_trinity_uni.html
Lynn Sweet has more. There’s a presser later.
Man, you gotta give it to lawyers. They think right and wrong stem from rules. It’s the other way around. Rules stem from right and wrong. Otherwise, where did the first rule come from? And rules need changing when they are wrong. Rules are meant to benefit the people. Who benefitted? No one. The entire DNC is gonna lose.
Who benefited? The Democratic Party. Who loses? Those of you — fake Democrats — who infest this blog!
Oh, no, Nathan–you and yours are going down. I’ll enjoy watching your li’l heads implode.
Tah
You’re such a regular, so predictable, I keep expecting you to bring refreshments, NB.
He so wants attention.
Nathan, if you’re seeing fake Democrats, maybe you should log off the computer and get out of your mom’s basement for a couple of hours.
What happened to the argument that TUCC was “representative” of the Black Church? What is TUCC now?
beebop,
I believe the United Church of Christ is actually a remnant of the old Congregationalist Church which traditional was very liberal and progressive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregational_church
I believe Trinity United Church of Christ was a sleepy little church until Jeremiah Wright came along with his late sixties radical Liberation Theology courtesy of the Marxist Rev. James Cone.
Because the United Church of Christ was a non-hierarchical and otherwise liberal protestant sect TUCC was able to morph into the extreme left-wing mega-church nuthouse it is today.
Interesting, I wonder how Wright was funded, and by whom?
I should add the United Church of Christ traditional is very liberal, progressive and WHITE. I think that is why many AA religious church goers took offense that TUCC was in any way representive of most black churches.
I think other more traditional churches like the Baptists would never have put up with Rev. Wright or James Cone.
TUCC is very much a product of an era of White Liberal guilt and political correctness.
llamajockey is correct. Both Congregational churches I attended as a youngster were Part of the United Church of Christ, pretty much creative-class liberal WHITE suburbanites. Strong social gospel emphasis, not too judgmental on personal flaws. All in all, pretty white-bread Protestant.
First we don’t “understand” the black church experience. Then we are led to believe that Obama never heard inflammatory comments, and Trinity turned overnight from a great place to a hate-infested place. Then he distances, then renounces, then more and more and more lies from him (that the media ignores) and his crazed supporters go out of their way to justify his downright sickening associations.
Yes, I am bothered by his association with a place that harbors anti-white and anti-Jewish sentiment (racism is racism just like terrorism is terrorism whether Bill Ayers or Bin Laden is doing it), but I am more bothered by the massive infiltration of faith in politics. I was led to believe for so many years that it was the Republicans who felt driven to intermingle church and state, but the presence and controversy of Obama’s church coupled with his constant references to Jesus (even in his ads) is a very sad thing. Obama has just basically admitted that his judgement is poor. Coupled with his ignorance of history and utter lack of experience, he has given the Repubgs a big gift.
Republicans are smart. No one who is not uber-savvy and manipulative would have been able to do this much damage for two consecutive train-wreck presidencies. The Democrats, with the notable exception of Hillary and very few others, are spineless children who do not like to get their hands dirty for the good of the people.
This rapprochement of religion and politics is disturbing, and the Democrats should be ashamed. McCain is one step closer to the White House.
Obama is the biggest fraud ever. I can’t wait to see the reaction of all the AA members of Trinity. Thanks to Obama, they look like idiots in the press and then he walks away and says he is nothing like them. Ouch! That has got to hurt.
Well considering this is all a backroom cooridianated divorce, they probably won’t care. They will say, this is what he has to do to win. Hope no one in their right mind falls for such a pathetic move.
Probably will. Go back to this audio here on noquarter and listen.
He or his handlers probably gave them a pile of cash as a “divorce” settlement. That seems to be his method for getting his way in everything; it bought the DNC, his thug brigade, and plenty of the SD’s. Wow, isn’t democracy grand!
FL = half votes! Hillary loses!
FL = half votes! Hillary wins the popular vote!
Obama will have a very tough sell getting nominated without the popular vote. Its time to dig up all the quotes from the Obama people about “will of the people.”
I have this feeling that Obama’s definition of “will of the people” is probably the polar opposite of ours.
Nathan, what I would like to know why has Obama’s
people called me 2 times today asking for money?
when I have e-mailed the DNC, called the DNC, written letters to the DNC to take my name off their
lists, because I was voting for Sen McCain!!!!
I wonder how his people got my phone number? I thought the wonderful one had plenty of money.
You know what I told the Obama caller I will not give him one red cent and to stop calling!!!
Rezko’s gambling debt?
Hey, those Vegas guys don’t screw around!
He’s running out of money.
on another forum it was suggested only to send half a check since Florida delegates are only counted as half a vote.
He is now seventy votes from the amount needed instead of fourty two. He won’t get that many pledged delegates so I guess the superdelegates will give it to him. Sen. Clinton’s campaign may take this issue to the Credentials Committee which meets the day before the convention begins. First vote in the convention is pledged delegates only so he won’t win the first round. NEVER count your chickens before they hatch.
Why do I keep hearing BO screeming
Wiiillllson! Wilssssooon!
Lets keep our eyes on the next Trumpet cover.
Ausman Challenge Motion: UNAMIMOUS! Now for Michigan….!
Oh yes, suckers all of them and I tried to tell them. Reverend Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are next! He is going to go to great lengths to try to win this thing. Hell, if Michelle becomes too much of a liability, she might find herself a single mother soon. LMAO
I’m expecting Obarfbag to disavow his wife soon.
He lost my favor A LONG TIME AGO with all the cheating, bullying, pandering, and arrogance out of him and his supporters. His true colors just keep getting more colorful. There’s absolutely NOTHING he can do to change my opinion.
Hillary or McCain. Absolutely NO other acceptable choice.
Unify? Not an issue for me. I’ve never been a part of either party. Rest assured I certainly will NOT EVER be a part of the Democrats.
I am just as if not more stunned as Harold Ickes.
what about Axelrod? doing his documentary and raising money
for Pfleger? does he resign from that? or from the campaign?
what a bunch of losers.
Completely O/T,
But the Ayatollahs at the Great Orange Shaitan heart us infidels.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/31/121214/078/755/526045
BigTuna, can you encapsulate? Nothing will ever induce me to click on a D-K link.
Ickes just called them delegate hijackers.
Credentials committee, here we COME!!!!
Won’t matter. It will be over this week! You can’t overturn the will of the people!
Yes, Barkey, that’s what we’ve been saying for months now! Hillary will be the nominee ’cause you can’t overturn the will of the people. (If you do, very bad things can happen.)
As it stands now Hillary gained delegates, the total needed for nomination has risen and most important, Hillary can without ambiguity can claim the popular vote. Good luck to Obama getting nominated without the popular vote. And good luck to Obama making it to August 25 without a major scandal breaking.
I agree! RealPolitics needs to change all its “Popular Vote” options, since the ones without Florida don’t count anymore.
Oops, RealClearPolitics.
Another “cover your ass” moment from Obama. His “race” speech at Philadelphia in March was the first.
Whatever Obama … you are just doing it for political expediency.
You’re a first class fraud.
This stinks of political expedience, BO. From here on in ye shall be called what you are, BO, STINKY! Barack Obama,just another stinky politician. So much for the change candidate.
Halli Casser-Jayne
http://www.thecjpoliticalreport.com
They let Smith hang and now they give her one minute. This is a hijacking ALL the way around. DENVER!! Go to DENVER!
Imagine hijacking hillary’s delegates. What the hell are these people thinking? Marxism! That’s what they are thinking.
Uppity, there is no way those pissed off Michigan and Florida voters will rally around Barky come November. Barky just lost his Trinity Church vote, Blue collar votes, Jewish vote, Military vote, Cathelic Vote, women’s vote…who’s left? He’s got the dumbass troll vote all locked up.
Who was that turkey who had the audacity to do a commercial for Barky and his “leadership”?
Sure does!
Obama has his own cult . he doesn’t need old uncle any more he has served his purpose and so have all his TUCC bros. Oprah got off the bus while the gettin was good. So now it is just him and Michelle and his gaggle of SDSes and corporate America. Obama has now come full circle.
DENVER!!! Blow them up, the bastards!
You’ve been reported to the Secret Service! Let us know how that goes!
If they haven’t arrested all the members of Recreat 68, they aren’t going to bother about one little slip.
Done to overshadow the shit they just pulled with the florida and michigan votes and to absolve him of criticism before the campaigning for the gneral election starts.
Under no circumstances will i vote for this opportunistic typical politician…what a turdburger the DNC is foisting on the american public.
49 state humiliation in November please America.
Just like caucuses. Screw the people and screw Hillary. I hope she blows them to high heaven and destroys useless marxist party. And then runs anyhow.
great. now, larry can hop off his dick
Whoo-hoo! Standing ovation for the rulings! A very good day for the Democratic Party!
yes today the obama youth tomorrow the world!!!
Seriously, leave it alone, I mean, if you could like your own balls, wouldn’t you?
erm….LOL that took me a minute…then i realized i had to assume that troll actually has testicles.
Oh goody the race card. It’s ok to steal delegates from a broad though eh?
The new number is 2,118 – 66 left for Obama! Hillary need 240.5…. OOPS! Oh well, thanks for playing!
dont worry nathan we will make sure you shitburger of a candidate loses in november…guaranteed
Oh noes! All 200 of you?!?!? LOL
This has nothing to do with anything, my god you haven’t pulled anything new out of your ass since 1965, have you?
Dman, you are one tracked thinker, aren’t you?
What happens if Obama is indicted?
He’s still a criminal.
This is the reality, tooty.
Obama isn’t the one who had Vince Foster killed. lol
You are counting on votes that are not cast until August 25. Hillary will take this fight to the convention and she won’t concede. She doesn’t have to.
We shall see. I can’t wait to help tank this guy.
I’m with you, Uppity. By the way, is Nathan one of those guys that’s supposed to bring us back into the land of unification? Hillary or McCain, no other choice.
Already on it…just signed up with the McCain campaign. I can work both sides of the fence until Hillary carries it through.
Oops, thought this disappeared, so posted twice.
It’s worth reading twice.
Already on it. Just signed up with the McCain campaign. I can work both sides of this until Hillary gets it wrapped up. If it doesn’t work out for her….McCain will win and we will have 4 years to raise gobs of money for her for 2012.
WE ALL SHOULD DO SOMETHING! Pick a date to change our registration to independant all at once!
no, not really.
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then call the DNC and tell them you left the party and why:
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send the letter posted here:
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That rules committee was a complete joke. They knew before they came back what was going to happen.
i wonder how much money those decisions cost the obama campaign…good thing his middle east backers are loaded with all the cash they make off the inflated price of oil.
Money is no object.
Buy the Vote.
Steal The Vote.
Supress the Vote.
Taint the Vote.
Unity my ass.
No to Obama Not under any circumstance.
Put your money where your mouth is. Donate to Hillary now! https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/form.html?sc=0 Hurry, she needs to repay herself and retire her debt!!
Too little, too late, the damage is done. You can drop out of the church now, but can you erase the last 20 years? Not in the minds of most Americans.
So he goes from devout Christian to what…pagan without a church? Heathen without a home? Michelle doesn’t get to go to her Women’s Bible study class? What about the kids’ Sunday school?
back to being muslim i guess.
either that or he will be converting to catholic and his new paster is Father pflegler. Its better to have a white white-hater than a black white-hater as your pastor.
The AA’s in Trintiy will blame “whitie” for taking barky from them. Father Phlem just never thought it would be him they are calling whitie.
I wouldn’t walk across the street to shake McCain’s hand But I would crawl a mile or two to vote for him against Obama.
[...] May 31, 2008 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/31/is-this-change-we-should-believe-in/ [...]
There are so many bodies under the bus that the wheels can’t touch the pavement any more. Scoot over and make room. Either Michelle or God will be next to join us.
I thought this was a joke, I can’t believe this man, I am so outraged as to how stupid does he think americans are?
I am no longer a democrat, this election has become a joke.
John McCain is looking better every day.
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Obama is a hypocrite.
WEBSTER’S NEW UNIVERSAL UNABRIDGED DICTIONARY:
hypocrite:
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person wh1o feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
Synonyms: deceiver, dissembler, pretender, pharisee.
*****A
Today is not what we wanted but it is not all bad.
Hillary can appeal the MI outcome to the credentials committee.
She can claim the popular vote since now FL and MI are going to the convention.
She had a net gain of delegates.
Her supporters are pissed off about today’s decision and will redouble their efforts.
Hillary won’t concede and will fight on. I doubt Obama can make it to August 25 without a major scandal breaking. He has way too many skeletons in the closet.
NEVER count out the underdog!
Hillary ‘08 + ‘12
the numbers in popular vote change since they awarded Obama all the delegates in Michigan, and Clinton doesn’t have the lead again, since the rules commitee threw the uncommited delegates to Obama, including the 30,000 mail in votes all going to Obama, robbing Clinton of 4 delegates earned!
I’m not sure what you mean. The only popular votes that count are the certified ones by the state. The DNC can’t make any other votes legal. The DNC can only change the delegate situation, not the official vote tally. That official vote tally is etched in stone.
As I said, Hillary supporters are redoubling their efforts thanks to the rules committee decision. There’s a donation drive going on at Hillary’s blog.
Desperate to take the issue out of Republican hands. Too little. Too late.
Maybe stealing the votes from FL for Obama was contingent on his quitting his church.
The devil then took Jesus to the top of a high mountain, showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. Then said, “All this authority I will give You and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.” “Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.”
Luke 4
Obama gave in to Satan.
AY< you should know Marxist moles don’t care about religion or people, just their own selfs needs and their own agenda! Hate to be Obama at the perly gates……YIKES
Susan, what is the truth in regard to the rulings, despite the gnashing of lil troll teeth, or dentures, as the case seems to be?
This is pretty much what they agreed upon at the news conference, with the door still open, right?
Hillary is not the loser in this fiasco. I seriously doubt that she would waste her talents on the vice presidency because she can increase her stature as a Senator, while Obama moves meekly back to the Senate, his star diminished forever, and continues to be an ineffectual member, after McCain wipes the floor with him in the General. What he will have left is an America more racially divided than ever. Frankly, I think he has ruined the chances for a black president for a long time to come. The white community has had it with black manipulation of the process and preying on so call white guilt. With a vetoproof majority, Dems can keep McCain from doing much harm to the country and
Hillary just has to keep her counsel, do what she is so good at doing…being competent in her work, and 2012 will be just around the corner,and she’ll win what was taken from her in a walk! Go Hillary!!!
that’s comedy gold
I am not surprised at the output of this day. Probably Obama had to throw his church under the bus or lose the Super Ds he needs to fake victory in this primary election. Although HRC did not get what she needed today, there are some good points from today: MI and FL will be seated. All the delegates will be there even if they only have 1/2 vote. If HRC challenges the RBC decision and takes it to the convention floor, she will have the bodies there to try for change. The good thing about today is that this royally p****off the HRC supporters. They are not likely to make nice or recognize Obama’s attempt to annoint himself in MN. The net result of today. Deep fractures are deepened. Obama completes defining himself as a sleazy politician. McCain looks like a solid American. HRC looks like a saint.
“I could no more distance myself from Pastor Wright than I could from my white grandmother”?
I guess grandma is on notice.
Good one!
Boy, did this fall flat…
Poor things, so stupid, even fixed, the lil morons can’t pull it off…
All the R`s have to do is keep referring to him as Marxist in every TV interview. Kiss your 401k goodbye, those shares you had on Wall street, taxed at 30% Oh well we have Obama to keep us safe from terrorism……
I’m not impressed with the republicans.
You are?
Boy, even Obama’s guys know this is lame…
Poor things, so stupid, even fixed, the lil morons can’t pull it off…
I am a Hillary supporter who sees her going to Denver and winning the nomination. The next week there will be pressure for Hillary to quit. She won’t because she knows what is at stake and there is ample historic precedence for her staying in the race all the way to the convention. I find it disgusting that she is treated differently with the constant calls for her to quit. Hang in there for Hillary. She needs us and America desperately needs her.
Just like before, these trolls are as regular as the 5:00 into grand central station.
Let’s see what Joe Astroturf comes up with this week.
See, true talent is the only way to succeed, democratic or republican, in terms of the greater welfare of the country.
Astroturf is not indicative of intellect.
Neither is treason.
And just like before Hillary and we will stand tall!
Just like before, these trolls are as regular as the 5:00 into grand central station.
Let’s see what Joe Astroturf comes up with this week.
True talent, and intellect, are the only way to succeed, democratic or republican, in terms of the greater welfare of the country.
Astroturf is not indicative of intellect.
Neither is treason.
1. Obama was in the church for political gain or
2. He really believed the tripe they have been spouting for the 20 years he was there.
He’s a gross hypocrite or a racist.
What I’m seeing on the Repub blogs – this will confirm that Obambi is a blatant opportunist and a lightweight who caves under pressure.
Lots of good cheer on the Right side of the blogosphere tonight.
Why?
They’re guilty of the same tactics, the same corruption.
Do they think it goes away?
Rove cheated Bush into the presidency, they created a war they can’t settle, or win, because they’re not smart enough to fight, they can’t “cheat” their way to a world wide victory.
The whole country is affected, bankruptcy, at the very least.
Now what?
If they think McCain is going to do it for them, they have their heads even further up their asses than I thought.
Obama = Political Expediency
Aww such REGARD for his X church and their suffering because of all the NEWS agencies!!!
lmao I can’t even believe he is SUCH A BOLD FACE HYPOCRITICAL big eared WEAK KNEED PHONY
So, he’s not leaving the church because they stand for things contrary to the majority of the American public. Hateful things. He’s leaving because they (church) are being harrassed too much.
So he was for the church before he was for the preacher but before he was against the priest and after he stood by the preacher but now he has ….
geez!
lolol that was sooo kerryesque!
I’m done with this shiate! Where’s HILLARY???? I need some guidance here before I go OVER to the OTHER side and offer myself up as bait!!
LOL kiddin (but I’m about that MAD DUDES)
ROAR!
hemming and hawing.
Answer the question Dumbo!! He’s going to join a church that he doesn’t care about so that they can be harrassed to no end, but his dear TUCC should be left alone.
Statement from The Clinton Campaign
Harold Ickes and Tina Flournoy made the following statement this evening:
Today’s results are a victory for the people of Florida who will have a voice in selecting our Party’s nominee and will see its delegates seated at our party’s convention. The decision by the Rules and Bylaws Committee honors the votes that were cast by the people of Florida and allocates the delegates accordingly.
We strongly object to the Committee’s decision to undercut its own rules in seating Michigan’s delegates without reflecting the votes of the people of Michigan.
The Committee awarded to Senator Obama not only the delegates won by Uncommitted, but four of the delegates won by Senator Clinton. This decision violates the bedrock principles of our democracy and our Party.
We reserve the right to challenge this decision before the Credentials Committee and appeal for a fair allocation of Michigan’s delegates that actually reflect the votes as they were cast.
(no link yet)
Heyyyyyyyyyyy THANK U
that was way quick!! wooHOO u ROCK!
He just has to get out of THIS church right now. Some other church can take the scrutiny for him. LOL
Gee, the bickering on this site is entirely being done by women. I wonder if Obama were a woman if any of you would be so up in arms.
You sexist gals on here are just as bad as all the racist blacks who are going to vote for Obama simply because of the color of his skin.
Zealots always hurt their own cause…
If he was a woman, he would have been run out of town for even thinking he was qualified or experienced enough to run.
Have Testicles.
Will Vote McCain.
Have integrity and a brain.
Will Never Vote Oblahblah.
Enjoy your upcoming november Defeat if Plastic Jesus is the Nominee.
Taking a pass on your koolaid.
If Obama were a woman, he wouldn’t have run the campaign he has.
It seems to me that Obama has been planning this “resignation” from Trinity, and was waiting for the right time. Obama no longer faces any primary battles in states with large African-American blocs of voters. You could see this shift on Memorial Day when Obama emphasized the “white” side of his family. If I was cynical I would think the Obama campaign actually staged this Pfleger “event” last week to give Obama “cover” for this long-planned strategical decison. The bi-racial candidate is now gong to shift to being “mostly” white for the general election. Assuming, of course, he makes it past Denver.
The “Just-In-Time” revelations that Trinity is “bad” and your point about AA driven primaries is right on target! The bigger problem is the dip shit “loose” delegates NOT understanding that American VOTERS have a high bull shit detection system that all but 30% or so know how to use . . . when the Repug Slime Machine kicks on, Michelle’s rants and Teflon Kid will fold like Doles’ dick when the Viagra wears off . . . a politically crippled old fart may become the WH caretaker until Hillary gets elected in ‘12 . . . .
That was funny.
All that face scratching, and no middle finger yet.
Maybe the coke bugs are so bad that now he’s forgotten about hating Hillary…
How in the hell would he even know the core precepts of Christianity having been a member of that church for 20+ years? LMAO He knows that at least 8,000 people in Chicago believe that the U.S. started the AIDS virus on purpose. LOL I didn’t hear anything in the “snippets” about salvation.
“Not a church worty of denouncing” WE’LL SEE THAT LINE AGAIN!!! lmao What a fuckign idiot!
That was amazing. Saw that too. “I don’t renounce the church.” He’s just resigning because he has to get on with the campaign!
I like how in his explanation of why he’s leaveing TUCC . He uses we in most of his narative but when it came to the part of Christ dying for our sins. He chose the word ” I know Christ died for your sins”
This guy is scarry….
OH, I will be changing party affiliation after Obama announces himself KING of the playground…I mean nominee.
The DNC, the media and the Obama Campaign have shown us what THEY consider a democracy…I consider it a farce!
Will Michele and the kids leave the Church as well? That depends! Will it be a good political move or not? That is the question!
Bye bye dems! If not Hillary ‘08, then McCain ‘08!
You know what they say.
Damned if you do…
…god damned(America) if you don’t…
It really is quite astounding that he’s done this. All these months he’s had his talking heads out there defending his church membership and coming up with everything under the sun to excuse his continued membership, not to mention the last 20 years. IMO, he’s made them all look like fools.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that gig by the goodly Father Pfleger was another ’staged’ production to allow for this very ‘exit’ from the Trinity stage.
Possibly, he was given an outline of the desired outcome, and all he had to do was choose from any of his favourite themes and deliver. His abrupt ending, and sudden recollection of the danger he was putting the Church in, was unbelievable, to say the least.
It is clear that the machiavellian approach to this whole campaign has built-in tactics to counter any potentially deadly event. On the other hand, they will also build into the design, deadly tactics to meet their ends,….. by any means necessary, as they see fit.
It’s like a war that being waged on every possible level. Too much is at stake, clearly.
The mistake is to believe their lying words and trust their shameless faces.
Yes, this is a very complicated, difficult
parasite to untangle oneself from, as it has been at work within the bowels of the party for sometime. And may have built nests outside as well.
Only those who have faced real guerrilla tactics, or read about them, or studied truly deceptive, power-hungry characters, and who understand that there are those who will camouflage their real intent, by using apparently innocent looking practices of the average law-abiding, civil group, will be able to fully see through these ploys.
That means that most of us here, have lots more work to do…..educating….enlightening….as the facts slowly trickle out.
BTW, my guess is that those AA’s who are going along with Hope, have been told some things that appear ‘really possible’….. and given the brainwashing of the Church attendees for sooooo many years, they “understand” why Mr. Hope, pretends to commit these bus throwing acts.
So they will take no offence. They know it’s intended to just “bamboozle” those who haven’t seen though the razzle dazzle.
As Mrs. Hope said back then before the South Carolina primary, “they ( referring to AA’s) will get it!” Remember?? Study this carefully…..
http://tinyurl.com/3kefzu
Luckily, there are some AA’s who have really “got it”,……… at great risk though, and some of them continue to support Hillary, no matter what.
In fact, just yesterday, a prominent former official of a Civil Rights Group (not sure of the name right now) with a knowing smile on her face, said prophetically, that this (Father Pfleger performance) was not the last scandal to surface ( my words) that something else ALWAYS comes up, …….that another one will! And she had that ‘knowing’ look of certainty on her face!
Not fear!
Not dread!
Not sadness!
Just cool! ….and prophetic!
Calmly pleased!
It was as though she was promising us that prize….she had already seen it delivered to FEDEX.
I saw that as a good sign…….even with the events of today………
Keep the faith, the Cause is more than worthwhile!!
I beleive the Obama campaign is hoping that the electorate has the attention span is his youngin’s bred on nintendo. Get it over with now..so everyone forgets by November.
However, I don’t think the clowns are finished coming out of his car. All these damn distraction for Obama instead of getting on with the real issue of climbing up that mountain of Hope.
I would return the DNC requests for money and told them no money until FL and MI are seated. Since Fl only has half a vote as a generous concession from Obama, I will generously donate half a check
Too Little Too Late. If it took you (Barry) 20 plus years to leave your Black Lib Theology Church how can we trust you to do the right thing at the right time if you were President. Looks like you just want to try to pick-up some votes and looks like you might know what is coming down the line on Monday re – Michelle. Will you throw her away too when the heat gets to be too much?
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I will never vote for Obama and will also work both sides of the fence so to speak as long as Obama loses in November if he is the nominiee I hope Hillary will stop being a game player and run anyway in the General Election
Barack Obama resigned partly, he said, because of a “cultural and a stylistic gap.” What?
So he agrees with the racially divise, hate-filled junk that Wright and now Moss preaches, but would just say things differently to a broader audience?
Liberal/leftist Obama continues to insult everyone by expecting them to join his lie, the lie that what he says is true, that he is a unifier.
He’s a fraud, an arrogant and narcisstic whiner, disconnected from and disdainful of America–and no amount of disingenuous politically expedient actions will undo that.
Umm-too easy.
I think that Obama has a “judgment problem” though don’t you? He seems to be taken in by all these bad people. Not a good quality for a leader.
Obama is shocked…shocked that these terrible things were being said in his church….and, and, and, those people…they looked like they were enjoying it all….
Why, he had no idea that there were those kinds of things being felt, and spoken, there. After all, he only attended the church briefly…for 20 years, was married there, and, worst of all, exposed his young children to this vile hatred…..
What a pusillanimous, palavering, popinjay!!!
He knew darn well what the church’s dogma was. He knew darn well what revs. Wright and Moss and Phleger were all about. Not only was it politically expedient for him to belong to trinity; it’s warped, Marxist, form of Christianity, black liberation theology, conformed well to his red diaper baby upbringing as well as appealing to the ideals inculcated through his ultra left wing academic experience.
Oddly enough, this episode exposes Obama for the hypocritical, usurpacious, fair weathered friend type of individual he really is. His proclamation of being a new kind of politician, practicing a whole new brand of politics, is pure poppycock!
The only thing remotely revolutionary about his campaign, besides the Marxist idealism exhibit by his Che Guevara loving campaign workers, is his campaign’s brilliant use of the internet to produce at times what appear to be an Orwellian mental synergy, and an ominous cult of personality reminiscent of the former Soviet Union. Otherwise, it is the traditional, opportunistic politics of useful friendships, sordid cloakroom dealings, and vote purchasing constituent pay-offs.
Most of the mainstream media will herald this as a “bold” move that will afford Obama a “fresh” start, unencumbered by any stigma of radical racist associations. In the usual fashion, they will declare that “the debate is over” and “the matter is closed”. Any attempt to question him about his 20 years there will be dismissed as “dwelling on the past” or the perfunctory “distraction from the important issues”.
What’s really important is that if the tables were turned, and anyone else had sat idly by listening to the pontifications of the grand poo-bah of the KKK, or some other white supremacist, he, or she, would have been TOAST long ago. Not only do the mainstream media tolerate reverse racism, most outlets are actively engaged in trying to get Obama elected. I wonder if they really believe in him, or are they emulating the head of the Illinois state legislature; the man who decided he would play king maker and get Obama elected to the US senate.
Exit question; are the mainstream media wanna-be king makers or simply useful idiots; I’ll let you decide………….